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Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 211 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 211 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
Mr. Speaker, this is a closed rule providing for consideration of S. 256, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
The rule provides for 1 hour debate in the House, equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary. It waives all points of order against the bill and its consideration, and it provides for one motion to recommit with or without instructions.
General Leave
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks on H. Res. 211.
Mr. Speaker, bankruptcy reform is overdue for passage. Despite its critics, S. 256, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, does not exclude anyone from filing for bankruptcy. Instead, it implements a simple means test to shield debtors who make below their State's median income and to determine if a higher income debtor has the ability to partially pay back his or her creditors.
To phrase it simply, bankruptcy reform is financial accountability. It protects our system against fraud and abuse. And it asks those who have the means to repay as much of their debts as they can.
For at least four previous Congresses, members have been trying to reform our ``when in doubt, bail out society'' in favor of personal responsibility. Bankruptcy should not be a financial planning tool, and it should be available for legitimate emergency situations only. Our bankruptcy system should fit the needs of the individual, no more, no less. With this rule, and
passage of the underlying legislation, S. 256 we will finally see some movement in the right direction.
Bankruptcy reform is important to help speed up court hearings, because it only takes a few fraudulent or misdirected cases to stall a court for hundreds of other legitimate bankruptcy filings. Federal bankruptcy filings per judgeship have increased by 71 percent from 2,998 in 1992 to 5,130 in 2003; and it represents the largest case load in our Federal court system. This creates a backlog that slows down the process for those really in need of bankruptcy protection.
Bankruptcy reform provisions found in S. 256 include, but are not limited to: abuse prevention so debtors who have committed crimes of violence or engaged in drug trafficking are no longer able to use bankruptcy to hide their finances;
Needs-based credentials, where if a debtor has the ability to partially repay debts, he or she must either be channeled into a form of bankruptcy relief that requires repayment or risk having the bankruptcy case dismissed as an abusive filing;
Spousal and child support protections to help single parents and their children by closing a loophole used by some spouses currently avoiding their child support responsibilities. This would put child support and alimony payments as a first priority, ahead of credit card debt and attorney's fees. Child support and alimony payments are currently seventh in the priority list of payments;
Closing the mansion loophole require a debtor to live in a State for at least 2 years before he or she can claim that State's homestead exemption. The current requirement is 91 days, allowing some debtors to shield themselves from creditors by putting all of their equity into their homes;
Debtor protections requiring potential debtors to receive credit counseling before they can be eligible for bankruptcy relief, allowing them to make an informed choice about bankruptcy considering all alternatives and consequences;
Further, small business protections to defend against needless bankruptcy lawsuits. Under current law, a business can be sued by a bankruptcy trustee and forced to pay back monies previously paid by a firm that later files for bankruptcy protection;
Additionally, family farm relief by doubling debt eligibility for chapter 12 filing, allowing periodic inflation adjustment of this debt, and lowering the required percentage of a farmer's income that must be derived from farming operations.
There are business privacy protections to prohibit the disclosure of names of a debtor's minor children with privileged information kept in a nonpublic record. Current law allows nearly every item of information supplied by a debtor in connection with his or her bankruptcy case to be made available to the public.
S. 256 passed the Senate with a clear 74 to 25 majority. The House judiciary markup on March 16 included rollcall votes on 11 amendments. The reforms included in this legislation will be very beneficial to our society without ignoring the need of those suffering financial uncertainty. This legislation deserves a clean up-or-down vote. Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues to support this rule and pass S. 256 bankruptcy reform.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I want to point out, Mr. Speaker, to the gentleman from Florida that medical expenses are specifically covered in the bill, and all other extenuating circumstances are covered in section 102 of the bill allowing judicial latitude.
At this point, I would like to yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner), the distinguished chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to myself such time as I may consume.
I want to thank the gentleman from Wisconsin, distinguished chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary, for bringing forth those statistics and that stack of documents that he just went over; and I want to add one more statistic to that, and this is that since the 105th Congress, the House and the Senate have passed bankruptcy reform legislation a dozen times, with a vote tally of 2,455 for and 871 against.
To my distinguished colleague from Florida, in regard to the amendment process in the Committee on Rules, my colleague knows that the other side was offered an amendment in the nature of a substitute. That substitute amendment could have included all 35 Democrats, who my colleagues allege were shut out. Every one of those 35 amendments could have been included in an amendment in the nature of a substitute; but apparently they just could not get their act together, did not have an amendment and passed on that opportunity.
In regard to the gentlewoman from California and the concerns about identity theft, opponents of the means test of the bankruptcy legislation have attempted to claim that a debtor should be except from the means test if the debt is related to identity theft. This is a red herring, Mr. Speaker, because consumers who are victims of identity theft do not owe the debts that result from identity theft; and, therefore, it is not an issue addressed by the bankruptcy court.
We all understand the sentiment of trying to help identity theft victims. Amendments related to identity theft, though, are not necessary. They would inadvertently do serious harm to consumers and create a significant potential for fraud and abuse. A consumer who is victimized when an identity thief establishes credit in the consumer's name is not liable for any of the debts incurred by the identity thief. The maximum amount I think is $50, and that is even waived by the credit card companies if it is proved to be fraudulent. Bankruptcy relief is, therefore, not necessary in regard to identity theft.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
In the 105th Congress, H.R. 3150, bankruptcy reform, passed 306-118.
In the 106th Congress, H.R. 8333 passed the House, 313-108.
In the 107th Congress, H.R. 333 passed the House 306-108.
In the 108th Congress, H.R. 975 passed the House 315-113.
The gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott) was not one of those voting in the affirmative on any of those occasions, but I want to point out to the gentleman in regard to his concern over medical and health- related expenses for a debtor, spouse, and dependents, on line 23, page 8, continuing through line 10 page 9, this covers the treatment of medical expenses for the debtor, spouse of the debtor, and dependents of the debtor. It expressly includes not just actual medical expenses but expenses for health insurances, disability insurance, and health savings accounts.
Mr. Speaker, put another way, contrary to misrepresentations by opponents, the needs-based test not only takes into account the full range of medical expenses by the debtors, but it also covers the spouse and dependents. This is just one of three provisions for a member of the household or immediate family. The provision includes for the monthly expense of the debtor, expenses incurred for the care and support of an elderly, chronically ill or disabled member of the debtor's immediate family. This includes parents, grandparents, siblings, children and grandchildren of the debtor, among others.
So medical in any situation, Mr. Speaker, medical or otherwise, no debtor is denied access to bankruptcy relief. All S. 256 says is that, in a limited range of cases, a debtor with meaningful capacity to repay may have to file in chapter 13 as opposed to chapter 7. In no case is a debtor denied access to the bankruptcy system.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier).
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
In response to the gentlewoman from Texas, Mr. Speaker, a substitute amendment was offered in every other Congress that bankruptcy reform was considered. Every other Congress in which bankruptcy reform was considered, the minority submitted a substitute amendment. Why not now? I have asked that question several times, and I still have no answer.
In regard to health care expenses, and I am reading from a March 29, 2005, CRS report for Congress titled ``Treatment of Health Care Expenses under the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act'':
``Conclusion. Health care expenses will generally be considered in one of two contexts in a bankruptcy filing. Significant expenses incurred prior to the bankruptcy filing may be calculated as unsecured claims; if the debtor cannot afford to pay 25 percent of unsecured claims or $100 a month, the debtor may be eligible to file under chapter 7.
``Ongoing health care expenses and health insurance premiums may be deducted from the debtor's monthly income. Factoring in these expenses may also reduce the debtor's disposable income under the means test.''
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
The gentlewoman from California brought up the issue about bankruptcy reform harming veterans. In speaking to that, Senate 256 needs-based test includes several safeguards and exceptions for special circumstances, including those of veterans: a specific reference to a debtor who is subject to a call or ordered to active duty in the Armed Forces to the extent that such occurrences substantiate special circumstances.
S. 256 means test has a special exception just for debtors who are disabled veterans if the indebtedness occurred primarily during a period when the debtor was on active duty or performing a homeland security activity. The bill excuses a debtor if he or she is on active military duty in a military combat zone from the mandatory credit counseling and financial management training requirements.
I could go on and on, Mr. Speaker; but we are addressing, as we always have on this side of the aisle, the special needs of our great veterans of this country.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
In response to the gentlewoman, I have got a letter from the National Child Support Enforcement Association, February 8, 2005, that I will insert for printing in the Record.
Let me just read one paragraph, the first and most important:
``The National Child Support Enforcement Association is a membership organization representing the child support community--a workforce of over 63,000 child support professionals. For the past 5 years, it has strongly supported the enactment of bankruptcy reform because the treatment of child support and alimony under present bankruptcy law so desperately needs reform. We applaud your continuing efforts since the mid-1990s to reform the bankruptcy system and welcome your introduction of S. 256. The bankruptcy bill, S. 256, like the reform bills of the last three Congresses and the signed conference report of 2002, includes provisions crucial to the collection of child support during bankruptcy.''
National Child Support
Enforcement Association,
Washington, DC, Feb. 8, 2005.
Re: Child Support Provisions in S. 256
Hon. Chuck Grassley,
Hart Senate Office Building,
Washington, DC.
Dear Senator Grassley: The National Child Support
Enforcement Association is the membership organization
representing the child support community--a workforce of over
63,000 child support professionals. For the past 5 years it
has strongly supported the enactment of bankruptcy reform
because the treatment of child support and alimony under
present bankruptcy law so desperately needs reform. We
applaud your continuing efforts since the mid 1990s to reform
the bankruptcy system and welcome your introduction of S.
256. The Bankruptcy Bill, S. 256, like the reform bills of
the last three Congresses and the signed conference report of
2002, includes provisions crucial to the collection of child
support during bankruptcy.
With each day that passes under current law, countless
numbers of children of bankruptcy debtors are subject to
immediate interruption of their on-going support payments. In
addition, during the lengthy 3 to 5 years duration of
consumer bankruptcies as they happen every day under present
law, debtors often succeed in significantly delaying or even
avoiding repayment of child support and alimony arrearages
altogether. Hardest hit by these effects of current
bankruptcy law are former recipients of welfare who are owed
support arrears but are stuck waiting until the bankruptcy is
completed before such debts can be collected. Families who
are dependent on obtaining their share of marital property
for survival may now find under present bankruptcy law that
such debts are discharged. And, worst of all, under present
law significant collection tools used to require the payment
of current child support needed by the custodial parent to
feed and clothe children may be rendered ineffective after a
bankruptcy petition is filed. Today, a bankruptcy filing may
delay or halt the collection of support debts through the
federally mandated earnings withholding and tax refund
intercept programs, the license and passport revocation
procedures, and the credit reporting mandates.
S. 256 would provide these children with first priority in
the collection of support debts, allow the enforcement of
medical support obligations, prevent any interruption in the
otherwise efficient process of withholding earnings for
payment of child support, and insure that during the course
of a consumer bankruptcy all support owed to the family would
be paid, and paid timely. It will allow state court actions
involving custody and visitation, dissolution of marriage,
and domestic violence to proceed without interference from
bankruptcy court litigation.
We, therefore, urge the members of the Conference Committee
and the leadership of Congress to enact this important piece
of legislation with its long overdue bankruptcy reforms.
Sincerely,
Margot Bean,
President. National Child Support Enforcement Association
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Parliamentary Inquiries
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
In response to the gentleman from Illinois, the reform bill significantly limits two practices that some wealthy filers use to hide assets from bankrupt creditors. Under the current system, in States with unlimited homestead exemptions, debtors can shield the full value of their residencies from creditors. To discourage debtors from relocating to the State to hide assets prior to a bankruptcy filing, the legislation requires a 3-year residency before a debtor can take advantage of the State's full homestead exemption. Currently, that is 91 days.
In addition, the bill adds a specific provision that prevents filers from shielding funds in an asset protection trust when fraud is involved. In fact, these practices will continue unabated unless this legislation is passed.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey) for yielding me the time. Before yielding myself such time as I may consume, I yield to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr.…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey) for yielding me the time.
Before yielding myself such time as I may consume, I yield to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Stark) for a unanimous consent request.
(Mr. STARK asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to oppose this closed rule and S. 256. Once again, the majority has squelched debate on a controversial piece of legislation for no legitimate reason.
More than 35 Democratic amendments were offered in the Rules Committee yesterday. Yet none have been made in order. Why? There is no reason for limiting the debate in this manner.
The House came into session on Tuesday and Members will leave town later this afternoon after just 2 days of work. Even more, there was only one other bill of substance before the House this week. The time to debate this bill and its offered amendments is available. The willingness to conduct meaningful business, however, is the missing ingredient. A 1-hour debate on legislation containing such sweeping reforms is not the way to conduct the people's business.
The argument will be made that this has been 9 years in the making. But a lot of this measure has been overcome by time, and that will be discussed by others later.
I am particularly disappointed that an amendment I offered is not being allowed to come before this body for consideration. My amendment seeks to prevent the very bankruptcies that are
causing this Congress so much consternation and is germane to the discussion. It requires credit card companies to preserve a customer's interest rate prior to incurring medical expenses if the customer is unable to pay off the full medical expenses on time. It also prohibits hospitals from reporting delinquent patients for 5 years, provided that the patient is paying 20 percent of his or her monthly mandated medical expenses.
All the information we have available suggests that medical bills are the second leading cause of personal bankruptcy in the United States. It is, in my opinion, hypocritical to prevent debate on an amendment that could ameliorate some of the issues facing this bankruptcy reform legislation. Is not the whole point of this bill to make bankruptcy less frequent? If Members of Congress have ideas about how to accomplish that, should they not be heard?
Many other Members sought to introduce amendments, but have also been denied their opportunity to be heard. These amendments could have improved this legislation.
For example, the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott) offered an amendment to exempt from the means test provision of debtors who have business losses incurred by a spouse who has died or deserted the debtor.
The gentleman from California (Mr. Filner) offered an amendment that would exempt victims of identity theft. And the ranking member of the Rules Committee, the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Slaughter), offered an amendment that imposes restrictions on issuing credit cards to college students. But none of those amendments, or the 31 others, will be debated today because the rule on this bill is closed.
At this point, Mr. Speaker, I will insert a list of all 35 amendments which the Republican majority has blocked from being considered in the Congressional Record.
Amendments Submitted to the Rules Committee for S. 256 and Denied
Consideration by the Rule (H. Res. 211)
1) Emanuel/Delahunt/Dingell--prevents debtors from
shielding their funds from bankruptcy liquidation through so-
called ``asset protection trusts;''
2) Filner--exempts disabled veterans from the bill's means
test;
3) Filner--exempts from the bill's means test consumers who
are victimized by identity theft;
4) Inslee--exempts from the bill's means test consumers
whose debts are the result of serious medical problems;
5) Delahunt--requires debtor corporations to file for
bankruptcy where their principal place of business is
located;
6) Sanders--establishes a ``usury rate'' for credit card
companies, above which credit card companies cannot charge
consumers;
7) Sanders--caps fees credit card companies can impose on
consumers at $15;
8) Sanders--prohibits credit card companies from changing
interest rates based on changes in consumers' credit
information;
9) Sanders--prohibits credit card companies from raising
interest rates based on consumer credit reports;
10) Ruppersberger--requires credit card solicitations to be
accompanied by a brochure explaining the consequences of the
irresponsible use of credit;
11) Schiff--exempts from the bill's means test consumers
who are victimized by identity theft, if at least 51% of the
creditor claims against them are due to identity theft;
12) Lofgren--exempts from the bill's means test 1) families
facing bankruptcy due to a serious medical hardship that
drains at least 50% of their yearly income, and 2) families
who lose at least one month of needed pay or alimony due to
illness;
13) Lofgren--exempt from the bill's means test a single
parent who failed to receive child or spousal support
totaling more than 50% of her or his household income;
14) Scott (VA)--exempts from the bill's means test
provisions: 1) debtors who have business losses incurred by a
spouse who has died or deserted the debtor 2) debtors who
have had serious illness in their family and 3) debtors who
have been laid off;
15) Scott (VA)--exempts from the bill's means test
provisions debtors who have business losses incurred by a
spouse who has died or deserted the debtor;
16) Scott (VA)--exempts from the bill's means test
provisions debtors who have had serious illness in their
family;
17) Scott (VA)--exempts from the bill's means test
provisions debtors who have been laid off from their jobs
through no fault of their own;
18) Nadler--sunsets the bill after 2 years;
19) Watt--prohibits annual credit card rates higher than
75%;
20) Watt--includes the costs of college in the calculation
of debtor's monthly expense;
21) Ruppersberger--exempts from the bill's means test
debtors who have declared bankruptcy due to high medical
expenses;
22) Hastings (FL)--prevents credit card companies from
increasing rates on consumers who use their credit cards to
pay for extraordinary medical expenses; also prevents
hospitals from generating negative credit information on
consumers who are paying their bills in good faith;
23) Meehan--Exempts from the means test disabled veterans
whose indebtedness occurred primarily as a result of an
injury or disability resulting from active duty or homeland
defense activities; closes a loophole in S. 256, which
exempts only disabled veterans whose indebtedness occurs
primarily while on active duty while failing to exempt
disabled veterans whose indebtedness occurs after they have
left active duty;
24) Jackson Lee--makes debts arising out of state sex
offenses non-dischargeable in bankruptcy proceedings;
25) Jackson Lee--clarifies Congress' intent that nuclear
liabilities be covered by the Price-Anderson Act, and not by
bankruptcy laws;
26) Jackson Lee--makes debts arising out of penalties
imposed on businesses for false tobacco claims non-
dischargeable;
27) Jackson Lee--strikes the bill's means test provision;
28) Woolsey--requires credit counseling agencies to provide
free services to recent veterans of the military who served
in combat zones;
29) Slaughter--requires credit card companies to determine,
before they approve a credit card, whether a student
applicant has the financial means to pay off a credit card
balance; it restricts the credit limit to minimum balances if
the student has no independent income; and it requires
parental approval for credit limit increases in the event
that a parent cosigns the account;
30) Slaughter--applies the highest median income of any
county or Metropolitan Statistical Area in the state to all
residents of the state petitioning for bankruptcy protection;
31) Millender-McDonald--provides the bankruptcy courts a
higher percentage of the fees collected when a debtor files
for bankruptcy;
32) Maloney--ensures that debtors emerging from bankruptcy
make child credit payments first, before payments on credit
card debt. The current version of the bill does not ensure
that child support payments will have priority over the other
types of unsecured debts, such as credit card debt;
33) Meehan and Berman--provides a modest homestead
exemption for people who have suffered a major illness or
injury;
34) Jackson Lee--provides additional protections to debtors
who are the victims of identity theft;
35) Jackson Lee--increases the means test limit on
parochial school tuition expenses from $1,500 to $3,000, so
that families Chapter 13 bankruptcy can keep their children
in schools that conform to their deeply held religious
beliefs.
Mr. Speaker, the House has adopted a new modus operandi. We saw it earlier this year with the class action bill, and we are seeing it again today.
It seems that if the Republican leadership deems legislation important, and that is their prerogative, it is willing to push through the other body's version without the opportunity for debate here in the people's House on any amendments. This new method does a great disservice to the people of this Nation. Even more, it stops Members, Democrats and Republican, from serving as thoughtful, effective legislators.
The House of Representatives is the people's House. The Founding Fathers envisioned a forum for lively debate on the issues of the day, not the controlled steering of selected legislation with no opportunity for meaningful change.
What also concerns me is the unworkable means test contained in this legislation. I am greatly disturbed, as I know all the residents of south Florida will be, that this means test includes disaster assistance as a source of revenue.
People forced into dire financial circumstances through natural disasters should find bankruptcy a source of relief. Considering disaster assistance as a source of revenue adds insult to injury and contradicts the government's efforts to help people get back on their feet.
This legislation, masquerading as protection against bankruptcy abuse, is really a protection for credit card companies and their predatory lending practices. This legislation does not protect the American people. This legislation protects the credit industry at the expense of the American people.
Increasingly, credit card companies market their product to riskier consumers, and now they want the Congress to protect them from the losses that are the foreseeable result of this ill-sighted business strategy. Why are we not debating legislation that would address those practices, instead of eviscerating a crucial safety net that Americans rely on when all else fails?
Mr. Speaker, should it pass, this bill will severely curtail the ability of Americans to obtain relief from bankruptcy without solving any of its underlying causes. Medical bills, unemployment, and predatory lending practices are at the root of this problem. In the long run, the net effect of this legislation will drive more Americans deeper into financial crisis and weaken our social structure and the Nation's economy.
I will not, and cannot, support such an attack on American consumers. I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this closed rule and ``no'' on
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
My respect for the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary is immense, and he has thrust all of these hearings and all that were in committee where 40 Members of the Committee on the Judiciary had an opportunity to participate.
What we are talking about is today, 35 Members of the House of Representatives, 35 amendments are not being permitted today. So I guess the 40-plus people are the ones who are representing the near 395, 40-plus none for the American people. That would be what I would put on the table from the minority side.
Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Matsui), our newcomer, who is making her first statement as a Committee on Rules member.
(Ms. MATSUI asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume before yielding to the distinguished ranking member to respond to my colleague from Georgia by indicating, the last time I looked at the rules, it allowed that individual Members have a right to make amendments, and we are not required to offer a substitute.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Slaughter), my good friend.
(Ms. SLAUGHTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks, and include extraneous material.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to my good friend, the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to my good friend, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Waters).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1 minute to my friend, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Lee).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to my good friend, the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. Maloney).
(Mrs. MALONEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 seconds to the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. Maloney) for the purpose of making a unanimous consent request.
Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. What was the objection about?
Mr. Speaker, further parliamentary inquiry, what is the ruling of the Chair?
Further parliamentary inquiry, so the gentlewoman from New York's request to put in the Record the material?
Mr. Speaker, there is objection to a Member's placing in the Record, a Member who had made a statement supporting the things that she asked to be submitted, that is being denied?
Mr. Speaker, with the Speaker's permission, I ask unanimous consent that the extraneous material offered by the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. Maloney) be made a part of the Record following her remarks.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Emanuel).
Mr. Speaker, I yield for the purposes of making a privileged motion to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Woolsey).
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Georgia for yielding me time. I rise in support of the rule for consideration of S. 256, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Georgia for yielding me time.
I rise in support of the rule for consideration of S. 256, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005. This bill consists of a comprehensive package of reform measures that will improve bankruptcy law and practice by restoring personal responsibility and integrity to the bankruptcy system. It will also ensure that the system is fair for both debtors and creditors.
As we now consider this rule, and the legislation later today, I believe it is particularly important to keep in mind bankruptcy reform's extensive deliberative history before the Committee on Rules, the Committee on the Judiciary, and both bodies of Congress, which I would like to briefly summarize.
First, the bill represents the culmination of nearly 8 years of intense and detailed congressional consideration. The House, for example, has passed prior iterations of this legislation on eight separate occasions. Likewise, the other body has repeatedly registered its strong support for bankruptcy reform. Just last month, the bill passed there 74 to 25, marking the fifth time that body has overwhelmingly adopted bankruptcy reform legislation since 1998.
Second, S. 256 has benefited immensely from an extensive hearing and amendment process, as well as meaningful bipartisan and bicameral negotiations. Over the past four Congresses, the Committee on the Judiciary has held 18 hearings on the need for bankruptcy reform, 11 of which focused on S. 256's predecessors. The Senate Judiciary Committee likewise has held 11 hearings on bankruptcy reform, including a hearing held earlier this year.
In the 105th Congress, 4 days were devoted to the Committee on the Judiciary's markup of bankruptcy reform legislation.
In the 106th Congress alone, the Committee on the Judiciary entertained 59 amendments over the course of a 5-day markup on bankruptcy reform legislation, which included 29 recorded votes. On the floor, 11 more amendments were considered.
In the 107th Congress, the Committee on the Judiciary considered 18 amendments during the course of its markup of bankruptcy reform legislation, and the House, thereafter, considered five amendments.
In the last Congress, the Committee on the Judiciary entertained nine amendments to the bill, and five amendments were considered on the House floor. Also in the last Congress, the Committee on Rules made two amendments in order in connection with a similar bill, addressing bankruptcy reform, which was considered on the floor.
Last month, the Committee on the Judiciary entertained 23 more amendments, each of which has been soundly defeated.
Mr. Speaker, I have over here the paper record of the House consideration of bankruptcy reform legislation over the last four Congresses. Here's the committee report on this bill, over 500 pages long. We have a copy of the House version of the bill, which is over 500 pages long. We have the committee report from 2003. We have a conference report from the 107th Congress. We have a committee report from the 107th Congress. We have a committee report from the 106th Congress. We have a committee report earlier in the 106th Congress, one from the 105th Congress, and then we have a committee report from the 105th Congress on the House side. All of these are debates in the Congressional Record when this bill has come up, and we have had conference reports filed, amendments filed, original bills filed.
There has been plenty of process on this legislation. The time to pass it is now, and that is why this rule is coming up in the way it is structured the way it is.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding again for the time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this rule for consideration of S. 256, the ``Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.'' S. 256 consists of a comprehensive package of reform measures that will improve bankruptcy law and practice by restoring personal responsibility and integrity to the bankruptcy system. It will also ensure that the system is fair for both debtors and creditors.
As we now consider this rule, and the legislation later today, I believe it is particularly important to keep in mind bankruptcy reform's extensive deliberative history before the Rules Committee, the Judiciary Committee, and both bodies of Congress, which I would like to briefly summarize for you.
First, S. 256 represents the culmination of nearly 8 years of intense and detailed congressional consideration. The House, for example, has passed prior iterations of this legislation on eight separate occasions. Likewise, the other body has repeatedly registered its strong support for bankruptcy reform. Just last month, they passed S. 256 by a vote of 74 to 25, making the fifth time that body has overwhelmingly adopted bankruptcy reform legislation since 1998.
Second, S. 256 has benefitted immensely from an exhaustive hearing and amendment process as well as meaningful bipartisan, bicameral negotiations. Over the past four Congresses, the Judiciary Committee held 18 hearings on the need for bankruptcy reform, 11 of which focused on S. 256's predecessors. The Senate Judiciary Committee, likewise, has held 11 hearings on bankruptcy reform, including a hearing held earlier this year.
In the 105th Congress, 4 days were devoted to the Judiciary Committee's mark up of bankruptcy reform legislation. In the 106th Congress alone, the Judiciary Committee entertained 59 amendments over the course of a 5-day markup of bankruptcy reform legislation, which included 29 recorded votes. On the floor, 11 more amendments were considered.
In the 107th Congress, the Judiciary Committee considered 18 amendments during the course of its markup of bankruptcy reform legislation, and the House, thereafter, considered five amendments. In the last Congress, the Judiciary Committee entertained nine amendments to the bankruptcy legislation and 5 amendments were considered on the House floor. Also in the last Congress, the Rules Committee made two amendments in order in connection with a similar bill, addressing bankruptcy reform, which was considered on the floor. Last month, the Judiciary Committee entertained 23 more amendments, each of which was soundly defeated.
Third, it must be remembered that S. 256 is a result of extensive bipartisan and bicameral negotiation and compromise. For example, conferees during the 106th Congress spent nearly 7 months engaged in an informal conference to reconcile differences between the House and Senate passed versions of bankruptcy reform legislation. In the 107th Congress, conferees formally met on three occasions and ultimately agreed--after an 11-month period of negotiations--to a bipartisan conference report. The legislation before us today represents a delicate balance and various compromises that have been struck over the past 7 years.
Fourth, and perhaps most importantly, the need for bankruptcy reform is long-overdue and should not be further delayed. Every day that passes by without these reforms, more abuse and fraud goes undetected.
Mr. Speaker, there simply is no reason to further amend this legislation given its uniquely extensive deliberative record. Those who come to the floor today and complain about lack of
process or the need to further refine this legislation--simply oppose bankruptcy reform. Accordingly, I believe this rule is appropriate, and urge Members to support it.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to lay to rest the fact that we have not had a full and complete debate on this.
This year, on March 16, the Committee on the Judiciary had a full markup on this bill. Anybody who wished to offer amendments was allowed to do so. Our committee publishes the complete transcript of markups as a part of the committee report. This transcript goes on for 160 pages in the committee report, which shows that everybody had an opportunity to speak their peace. There were 23 amendments that were offered, and all of them were voted down by overwhelming margins.
Now, amending this bill is what the people who wish no bankruptcy reform have in mind because they know the other body has had difficulty in finding time to debate this bill and vote cloture. The gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Slaughter), whom I greatly respect, has voted against this bill every time it has come up when she has cast a vote in a rollcall. Much of the complaints we are going to be hearing are coming from Members who wish to sink this bill through amendments. They have never supported it in the past. They are against it even if it were amended, and that is why the rule is the way it is.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, I recall yesterday when the death tax repeal was on the floor. It was a similar rule, and the minority was offered a chance to offer a substitute. They offered a substitute which was voted on and debated in the House of Representatives. But that rule passed by voice vote. So the rule under which we considered the death tax repeal yesterday is the same type of rule that we are considering today, except that the minority on this bill decided not to offer a constructive alternative substitute.
Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. Is the material asked to be inserted covered under the General Leave that was requested at the beginning of the debate by the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey)?
Mr. Speaker, I move to table the appeal.
Mr. Speaker, I withdraw for now the motion to table.
Mr. Speaker, this is a great day. Not only are we going to be able to see the Nationals play the first home game in 34 years, but we are going to finally pass bankruptcy reform legislation that can…
Mr. Speaker, this is a great day. Not only are we going to be able to see the Nationals play the first home game in 34 years, but we are going to finally pass bankruptcy reform legislation that can get to the President's desk and be signed.
Also, tomorrow many of us are going to be paying our taxes. We have constituents who are complaining justifiably about the high cost of gasoline.
On average, passage of this legislation will save a family of four $400 a year, and $400 a year is a very important amount of money for an awful lot of people in this country, and that is the price that they are paying because of the abuse that we have seen of our bankruptcy law that has been going on for years and years and years.
I happen to believe that it is essential that we provide that $400 in relief to the American people just as quickly as we can. We know, as the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner) has said, and I congratulate the gentleman for all of the effort that he has put into this, that we for years and years and years have been going through the amendment process. We have had a wide range of concerns brought to the forefront, and we have been able to address them. I believe that we are doing the right thing by moving ahead with this measure.
Mr. Speaker, any Member who votes no on this rule is voting against bankruptcy reform. They are voting against bankruptcy reform. Why? Because it is true 35 amendments were submitted to us in the Committee on Rules. We made it very clear that one of the things that we offered when we came to majority status was the chance to give the minority an opportunity to offer a substitute. The gentleman from Wisconsin (Chairman Sensenbrenner) came before the Committee on Rules and made it very clear to us. He requested a closed or a modified closed rule.
Let me say, a modified closed rule means that the minority is offered a chance at providing a substitute, cobbling together a package that in fact is an alternative to the measure that we have brought forward.
The minority had an opportunity to do that. What did they choose to do? Members of the minority did not come forward with a substitute. They chose to offer what I describe as cut-and-bite amendments, going through these issues and amending and amending and amending.
Mr. Speaker, we would have made in order a substitute had they given it to us.
I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary is absolutely right. We reported out a modified closed rule that provided the gentleman from North Dakota (Mr. Pomeroy) an opportunity to not only offer his substitute, but he could have offered a motion to recommit. So two bites at the apple. The exact same opportunity existed on this bill which has gone through Congress after Congress with an excess of 300 votes in the past.
We said a substitute would have been made in order if it had been submitted to us in the Committee on Rules.
I yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Mr. Speaker, that is absolutely right. If you look at the cost that exists today because of abuse of bankruptcy law, the abusive filings of bankruptcy, there is, on average, for a family of four of $400 per year.
If I could reclaim my time, what I am suggesting is that because of abuse of bankruptcy filings that take place today, that is a cost that is imposed on American consumers to the average family of four of in excess of $400.
That is the reason it is absolutely essential, Mr. Speaker, that we pass this legislation.
I have yielded three times. If I could finish my statement, I would like to. We have other people who would like to participate. I know that my dear friend from Florida (Mr. Hastings) will be more than happy to yield further time to the gentleman from Massachusetts.
Mr. Speaker, we have been waiting for years and years and years to get to the point where we could get a measure to the desk of the President of the United States so that he can sign it, so that we can deal with this issue and finally bring about responsible reform of our bankruptcy law.
We happen to believe very passionately that people should be accountable for their actions. We do not want anyone to be deprived of access to file for bankruptcy, but we know full well that this has been abused for such a long period of time. That is why we are here today and that is why I am convinced, Mr. Speaker, that even though we will see opposition to this rule, at the end of the day, we will see very strong bipartisan support to reform our bankruptcy law.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strenuous opposition to this unfair bill. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to S. 256. This bankruptcy bill is touted as reform, but it is actually a wolf in sheep's…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strenuous opposition to this unfair bill.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to S. 256. This bankruptcy bill is touted as reform, but it is actually a wolf in sheep's clothing intended to allow credit card companies and other lenders to gouge consumers when they are most vulnerable.
Republicans are giving this gift to big credit card companies at a time when many Americans are faced with uncertain job stability, retirement security, and health coverage. In fact, 90% of all bankruptcies are filed due to the common financial emergency of a lost job or lack of medical coverage. This bill makes it harder for working families to seek shelter from these devastating and unavoidable expenses.
The Wall Street Journal recently featured the case of a constituent in my district. Crystal Herndon, a single mom in Haywood, California, earns $15 an hour. Ms. Herndon got sick with pneumonia, causing her to miss six weeks of work and rack up over $5,000 in medical bills. These unforeseen expenses caused her to fall behind on other financial obligations, and before she knew it she was simply unable to make ends meet. Bankruptcy protection was the only way out for Ms. Herndon and her family. It's hard to see the abuse in real instances of need such as these, especially when many Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
Sadly Crystal Herndon is not the only worker to be forced into bankruptcy due to unavoidable medical expenses. According to a recent Harvard University research study 2 million Americans, including filers and their dependents, face the double jeopardy of illness and bankruptcy each year. Most of these medically bankrupt are middle-class homeowners with responsible jobs and health insurance coverage. Once illness strikes, high co-payments, deductibles, exclusions from coverage, and other loopholes quickly overwhelm these families' budgets. Loss of income and health insurance often deepen this financial crisis when a breadwinner becomes too sick to work.
To add insult to injury, consumers like Crystal Herndon will potentially face an avalanche of litigation that they can't afford as a result of this bill. The bill requires the debtor in some cases to have to challenge big corporate lenders in court to prove they are eligible to seek relief under Chapter 7 of the bankruptcy code. In addition, this bill also allows creditors to threaten debtors with costly ligitation that will force many families to needlessly give up their legal rights.
In their continuing compassion, the Republicans have crafted this so- called reform so that a parent seeking child support from a bankrupt spouse will have to fight it out with creditors in order to receive payment. Meanwhile, this bill makes it easier for those seeking bankruptcy protection to lose their homes or be evicted by the landlords. Yet, those with million dollar mansions will be able to keep their homes even while seeking the same protection under the law. Nothing like a fair shake for America's working families.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, with all of the perks they've awarded to the big credit card companies, Republicans have done nothing to ensure that they are held accountable for their role in this consumer crisis. There is nothing is this bill that stops the abusive, predatory lending that lands too many Americans in bankruptcy in the first place.
Bankruptcy has always been about giving a fresh start to those who have fallen on hard times. The link between illness, job loss, and health insurance is a harsh reality in our country today. It is morally reprehensible to suggest that we exploit medical tragedies befalling honest, hardworking Americans in order to grant the wishes of the credit card companies.
I urge my colleagues to vote down this merciless legislation. Now is not the time to turn the tables on America's working families. Vote no on S. 256.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for the time. The rule we are debating, that we have made today is a closed rule which means that the Members of Congress who brought 35 amendments to the Committee…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for the time.
The rule we are debating, that we have made today is a closed rule which means that the Members of Congress who brought 35 amendments to the Committee on Rules will not have a chance to bring them up.
This closed rule means that the elected representatives of the people will never have the opportunity to consider the amendments and decide for themselves whether or not they would make the bankruptcy bill a better piece of legislation.
I personally think that amendments protecting our men and women returning from military service in Iraq and Afghanistan would be a good idea, and I feel very strongly that the amendment protecting the victims of identity theft from bankruptcy is an important measure that should be debated on the House floor. After all, Americans are and should be very concerned about identity theft. AARP said it is one of the top five issues concerning seniors today.
Just to give my colleagues an idea of how concerned our fellow Americans should be about this, Lexis-Nexis and GM MasterCard are both recovering from wide-scale security breaches which may have placed millions of
Americans at risk for having their identity stolen. In fact, just 2 days ago, Lexis-Nexis identified more than 300,000 Americans that their personal information may have been stolen. In some cases, it will take those people 6 years to get back their identity. It is a very real problem for our country.
But if my colleagues in the majority do not agree that protecting Americans from identity theft is an important issue, why will they not let the body debate it? If they want to, they can always vote against it. That is the way things are supposed to happen here in a democracy. Instead, they have instituted another closed rule and will not allow us to debate the issues.
This is the fifth Congress that we have debated bankruptcy reform, and we have heard that this morning. To be fair, we have not debated this bill under open rules in the past, but we have certainly debated them under rules that allowed amendments.
This chart shows the number of amendments that the Committee on Rules made in order on this bill in every Congress since the 105th, and I insert in the Record at this point a list of the rules.
Number of Amendments Made in Order on Bankruptcy Bills--105th-109th
Congress
105th Congress (H. Res. 452)--12 amendments made in order.
106th Congress (H. Res. 158)--11 amendments made in order.
107th Congress (H. Res. 71)--6 amendments made in order.
108th Congress (H. Res. 147)--5 amendments made in order.
109th Congress (H. Res. 211)--Closed Rule, 0 amendments
made in order.
This chart shows a disturbing pattern, Mr. Speaker, a pattern that has become common practice here in the House.
In every Congress, Republican leaders have allowed fewer and fewer amendments to be debated. We started at 12 amendments in the 105th Congress; and in the 109th Congress, we have a completely closed rule. Zero amendments are in order. There is less and less democracy in this House, and every Congress fewer voices are being heard on the floor.
The Democrats on the Committee on Rules last month issued a report studying the disturbing trend toward less democracy and deliberation in this House. During this last Congress and this closed rule today convinces me we are only getting worse.
So, Mr. Speaker, I say again we have disallowed the amendments that would have let us make this a better bill, a bill that would protect more vulnerable people in this country, including our soldiers who have returned from Iraq, most of those in the National Guard and Reserves, many of whom are losing their houses because they were called back time and again and were to able to maintain their houses. It is a disgrace we were not allowed to bring that amendment to the floor.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this unfair, undemocratic closed rule and to the underlying bankruptcy bill. This lopsided bill will make it harder for families and seniors with debt…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this unfair, undemocratic closed rule and to the underlying bankruptcy bill. This lopsided bill will make it harder for families and seniors with debt problems arising from high medical expenses, job loss, divorce, or other financial hardships to address their problems while doing nothing to rein in the credit card companies whose practices have led to much of the rise in bankruptcies.
S. 256 presumes that bankruptcy filers are simply bankruptcy abusers looking to game the system and avoid paying their bills, ignoring the clear evidence that the overwhelming majority of people in bankruptcy are in financial distress because of job loss, medical expense, divorce, or a combination of these causes.
Mr. Speaker, an important and controversial bill like the bankruptcy bill deserves a real debate. Members deserve the opportunity to consider a wide range of amendments. For the Republican leadership and the Republican members of the Committee on Rules to propose that we consider a bill that is tilted toward the credit card companies and as complex as this bill is without giving Members any opportunity to amend it on the floor with only 30 minutes per side for general debate is a travesty and a gross abuse of power.
When this bill was in the Committee on the Judiciary, we had a pseudo-markup that lasted all day and was a complete embarrassment and a waste of time for all of the members, for the Republicans would not even consider one amendment, no matter how meritorious or beneficial to the American people, even if the amendment addressed issues not previously considered because of the Republican leadership's insistence on reporting out a clean bill in order to avoid a conference committee.
As a result, important, thoughtful amendments on such subjects as protection on domestic violence victims from eviction, disabled veterans, alimony and child support, exemptions for medical emergencies and job loss, underage credit card lending, and a homestead exemption for seniors, predatory lending and payday loans all were rejected by the Committee on the Judiciary.
Shame on you Republicans.
Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
Mr. Speaker, does the rule not state that the objection must be asked for prior to the speaking of the Member? This Member spoke, and the objection was asked for after the party spoke. My understanding is it should have been done ahead of time.
What is the correct rule?
I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. I think what I observed was she asked unanimous consent. There was no objection. She proceeded to speak. She spoke, and the objection was not timely. It was asked for after she had completed speaking. That is what I saw.
Mr. Speaker, I submit that that was not a timely objection. It was not timely.
Mr. Speaker, I do not think so. And I would oppose that, and I would support my colleague, who again would ask that we have a vote on the ruling by the Chair.
Yes, Mr. Speaker. Based on my statement, he is now again appealing the ruling of the Chair based on that it was untimely.
I ask the gentleman from New York (Mr. Nadler) if that is right.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, I withdraw; and I thank the gentleman on the opposite side of the aisle.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Florida for yielding me this time. I rise in opposition to this rule. We have before us a misguided attempt to reform our bankruptcy system. We have heard…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Florida for yielding me this time.
I rise in opposition to this rule. We have before us a misguided attempt to reform our bankruptcy system. We have heard cries that this system is being abused and is corrupted; and while there is need for reform, the proposal before us today contains a number of unintended consequences, consequences that would deprive consumers of the protection they deserve, hurt children, hurt families and neglect our veterans.
During the Committee on the Judiciary markup, numerous amendments were offered to correct these provisions, yet amendment after amendment was voted down, not on the merits of the amendments but because there was a backroom deal to move this legislation through the House without any changes. The committee held a sham markup.
Again, in the Committee on Rules, a number of amendments were offered to allow a debate on these issues, but not a single one was made in order today. In certain cases, my Republican colleagues acknowledged the merits of the amendments, but maintained it was simply not the time to address the issue. I have to disagree.
I am particularly disappointed that the very reasonable amendment offered by the gentleman from California (Mr. Schiff) was not made in order. The amendment is narrowly tailored to exempt from the means test consumers with 51 percent of their debt caused by someone who stole their identity.
This amendment makes sense. I am sure that most everyone at some time in their life has experienced the frustration of losing their wallet. First, you have to call all the credit card companies to cancel service. Then you may have to close and later reopen your checking account. Then you may have to take a trip down to DMV to get a new driver's license. It is an ordeal.
But these days, losing your wallet can even lead to greater problems. To then realize someone racked up thousands of dollars of debt after stealing your identity is just awful. No one should ever have to pay for a crime someone else committed.
Those on the other side of the aisle say they sympathize with the issue and would like to address this matter at some point in the future; but I ask, why do we not do this now? What are we waiting for? What better place to talk about the rights of bankrupted identity theft victims than in the bankruptcy reform bill?
Just yesterday, an article ran in the New York Times about another security breach potentially leaking Social Security numbers, driver's licenses, and addresses of over 300,000 people.
We all see the headlines. Identity theft poses an enormous financial risk to the average American. No one deserves a bill for someone else's crime, but the Republican majority seems to think so. Their legislation would punish the victims of identity theft, and the refusal to adopt this very simple fix raises real questions about who they are fighting for. I believe this amendment is very timely and appreciate the attention the gentleman from California (Mr. Schiff) has brought to this issue.
I know this legislation has been around since 1998, but that does not excuse us from being unresponsive to real issues affecting Americans today.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this rule. There is much that should be law in this bill; but as written, it should not pass. If this bill becomes law, children will have to compete for the…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this rule. There is much that should be law in this bill; but as written, it should not pass. If this bill becomes law, children will have to compete for the first time with credit card companies in State court for the limited assets of debtors emerging from the bankruptcy process.
I believe that there are many good parts of this bill; but as a mother I came to Congress to protect the rights of children, not to make their interests second to those of credit card companies. Congress has always insisted that debtors should take care of their children before their credit cards, and we
should not undermine this important family value.
I am a strong supporter of the netting provisions of the bill. These provisions provide for the orderly unwinding of complex financial transactions when one participant becomes insolvent. Alan Greenspan has said these provisions reduce uncertainty for market participants and reduce risk by making it less likely that the default of one financial institution would have a domino effect on others. I support this; and as a New Yorker, I am really concerned that these provisions go into effect to protect the financial sector in the event of another terrorist attack. And I agree we need to build savings.
But these positive aspects of the bill are outweighed by an unacceptable feature that the majority has refused to address, the fact that the bill pits child support claimants against credit card companies in State court for the assets that the debtor has when she or he goes into bankruptcy. In other words, kids will lose.
I offered an amendment to address this, but the Committee on Rules did not make it in order. They did not make other important amendments that would protect victims of medical catastrophes, of identity theft and many others. This is very, very important. The sponsors say that they take care of this, but none of their steps address the new threat created by the bill to protect children from having to fight credit card companies in State court. We have never done this before. We should not leave this as a legacy of this Congress. We can get this right. We should have put children first. We must vote against this rule and the bill.
Mr. Speaker, I request permission to place in the Record, in response to this statement, statements by Bar Associations across this country, women's organizations, women's legal defense, asserting what I have said that children are put second to credit card companies.
And this is wrong. Where are the family values in this Congress?
Is it just rhetoric or do you really care about children?
Mr. Speaker, while some who file bankruptcy have been financially irresponsible, the overwhelming majority of those who file do so as a result of divorce, major illness, or job loss. Half of those…
Mr. Speaker, while some who file bankruptcy have been financially irresponsible, the overwhelming majority of those who file do so as a result of divorce, major illness, or job loss. Half of those who go into bankruptcy do so because of illness, and most of them had health insurance but still could not pay their bills.
If the purpose of the legislation is to try to deal with those who abuse credit, we ought to be able to distinguish them from the hard- working Americans who unfortunately become ill, those who have an unforeseen loss of a job, or whose spouses desert them after a business failure.
Mr. Speaker, in addition to those who get sick or lose their job, this bill will also hurt small business entrepreneurs. They go into business and consider a risk-benefit ratio that includes the possibility of making a lot of money, but also includes the possibility of losing everything and ending up in bankruptcy. With the passage of this legislation, those entrepreneurs and their families will risk not only losing everything but also being denied a fresh start if the business goes under. They will be stripped down to essentials like food and rent for 5 years, and that is average rent for the area, not what they may have been living in.
Finally, we ought to consider the impact on society of increasing the number of people who conclude that they have nothing to lose. It is ironic that the last time we debated bankruptcy reform on the floor of the House, a farmer had driven his tractor into the pond near the Washington Monument, tying up traffic for a long time. He was quoted as saying, ``I am broke. I am busted. I have the rest of my life to stay here.''
People who feel they have nothing to lose can become dangerous to society. Denying bankruptcy protection to people who need a fresh start will only increase the number of people in our community who feel they have nothing to lose.
This legislation does not differentiate between those who abuse the system and those who deserve a fresh start. This rule does not allow amendments to fix the bill; and, therefore, the rule should be defeated.
I would like to respond very quickly. If medical expenses wipe you out and you cannot pay them, under this bill you cannot get into chapter 7 if you can pay $166 a month on your bills, however much they are. There could be hundreds of thousands of dollars that you could never pay.
Mr. Speaker, with that generous yielding, I would like to yield to the distinguished gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott). I thank the distinguished gentleman. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to answer my…
Mr. Speaker, with that generous yielding, I would like to yield to the distinguished gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott).
I thank the distinguished gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today to answer my good friend, the chairman of the Committee on Rules, to simply say the reason why a substitute was not offered is because the bankruptcy code as it now stands addresses the needs of the American people. It is interesting that the Republicans want to tell us what kind of amendment to offer when we had 35 amendments that would have protected the American people.
Mr. Speaker, I am outraged because the bankruptcy bill stabs the American people in the back. The reason why I say that is because we have a bankruptcy code that allows for the discretion of the judiciary in the bankruptcy courts to be able to determine whether your case is frivolous.
But now we have put in place what we call a means test which indicates that hardworking American families, middle-class families who have faced catastrophic illnesses, divorce, loss of job in this horrible economy, these individuals will be barred from entering the bankruptcy court because they do not meet the IRS guidelines. Who wants to meet the IRS guidelines? We already know what the Internal Revenue Service will do to you. All we wanted to do is to give more leeway.
If you listen to Professor Elizabeth Warren of Harvard University, she will tell you that the time for the bankruptcy bill has long passed. It is an 8-year-old bill that was written more than 8 years ago. Now we find that more consumer bankruptcies have declined. There are less consumer bankruptcies. But if you look at what the President is going to do with Social Security and take so much money out of our economy and break the American people, you are going to see an upsurge. But what you are going to see is the American people, because of this bankruptcy bill, losing their house, pulling their children out of school, not being able to make ends meet. It is an outrage. This rule should be defeated because the American people are being stabbed in the back. It is a disgrace.
I ask for a ``no'' vote on the rule.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the Committee on House Administration be discharged from further consideration of the resolution (H. Res. 147) electing members to the Joint Committee on…
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the Committee on House Administration be discharged from further consideration of the resolution (H. Res. 147) electing members to the Joint Committee on Printing and the Joint Committee of Congress on the Library, and ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I rise today in support of House Resolution 147, a resolution electing the House Members to the Joint Committee on Printing and Joint Committee of Congress on the Library.
This important resolution names our House Members to these two committees, and once passed, we may begin to work with the other body, which has already organized, to organize the entire committee for the 109th Congress.
I want to thank my colleagues for agreeing to serve with me on these committees. I would just like to briefly mention that on the Joint Committee on Printing would be the gentleman from California (Mr. Doolittle); the gentleman from New York (Mr. Reynolds); the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Millender-McDonald), our ranking member; and the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Brady).
Joint Committee of Congress on the Library is the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Ehlers); the gentlewoman from Michigan (Mrs. Miller), our newest Member; the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Millender- McDonald), our ranking member; and the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Zoe Lofgren).
I want to thank our ranking member for working with us on this resolution, and I ask for support of this resolution.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary is correct when he says 8 years. I dare say we could spend another 8 years, but given the quality of this bill, given the reality that it…
Mr. Speaker, the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary is correct when he says 8 years. I dare say we could spend another 8 years, but given the quality of this bill, given the reality that it imposes no responsibility whatsoever on the credit
card industry, naturally we will be opposed. Responsibility. We hear personal responsibility. What about corporate responsibility? Responsibility is a two-way street.
To get a fair and balanced bill, we need amendments. We need amendments like the one that the gentleman from North Carolina and myself filed which would have limited the interest on credit cards to 75 percent.
Sure, that might have shifted, if you will, some of us to support the bill. But, no, the credit card industry bought and paid for this legislation. Somewhere north of $40 million was part of that effort. Let us not kid ourselves. This bill was written for and by the credit card industry. It has nothing to do with the consumer. But that is why we needed amendments, to make it fair and to make it balanced. Let us not just use those words.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, the gentleman made a statement, if I understand correctly, that passage of this proposal before us today would translate into a savings of $400 for each family in America.
If the gentleman will yield further, the $400 would actually go back to the American family? Is that what the chairman is suggesting?
Will the gentleman yield further?
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Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose this legislation. After 4 years of record deficits and $2 trillion in new debt, one would think that the Republican majority would have a better understanding of what…
Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose this legislation.
After 4 years of record deficits and $2 trillion in new debt, one would think that the Republican majority would have a better understanding of what bankruptcy is. They are lucky this law does not apply to their actions in the last 4 years.
Instead, we have a bill that promotes one bankruptcy code for the wealthy and another for the middle class.
Case in point: The bill preserves the ``Millionaires Loophole,'' used by the wealthy to hide up to $1 million from creditors and courts into offshore accounts known as asset protection. Everyone should be subject to the same law and the same standards, not one set of rules for the wealthy and one for middle-class families. If one can afford a high- priced lawyer to set up an asset protection trust, they are a lot better off in bankruptcy than a middle-class family struggling to pay off large hospital bills. More than half of all bankruptcies result from catastrophic medical bills.
Mr. Speaker, rather than deal with the health care crisis or making college affordable, this legislation protects wealthy deadbeats from the same standard imposed upon every middle-class American. We should have one rule, one standard in the law of bankruptcy law that applies to every American regardless of income and regardless of wealth or position.
I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time and for his leadership. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this rule and to this morally bankrupt bill that puts corporate greed over fairness for…
I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time and for his leadership.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this rule and to this morally bankrupt bill that puts corporate greed over fairness for ordinary folks. This bill takes the phrase ``kick them when they are down'' to a whole new level. What about the fact that half of the people who file for bankruptcy protection are forced to do so because of high medical costs, loss of a job, or scam loan sharks? This bill would say to these people, the answer is, of course, too bad.
Make no mistake, Mr. Speaker, this bill is a big-time corporate payoff that was drafted with one overriding goal in mind, that is, profits, profits, profits.
I am all for curbing abuses in bankruptcy and would suggest that we start by closing bankruptcy loopholes for millionaires and taking steps to address predatory lending and payday loans rather than a one-sided, harsh industry payoff. This bill should include real solutions to address the really hard problems fueling the financial difficulties so many in this Nation are facing. We should focus on the true abusers and not the working families that have played by the rules.
Mr. Speaker, we need to have a bankruptcy bill that addresses the real abusers. This is a morally bankrupt bill.
Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. What is the basis for the objection to a request for insertion into the Record of material? Mr. Speaker, is it not customary as a normal matter of comity in this…
Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. Speaker. What is the basis for the objection to a request for insertion into the Record of material?
Mr. Speaker, is it not customary as a normal matter of comity in this House to allow all material requested to be placed in the Record?
Mr. Speaker, I appeal the ruling of the Chair.
Yes, it is.
Mr. Speaker, in light of new information, I withdraw the appeal.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on H. Res. 147.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on H. Res. 147.
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[H. Res. 147 Engrossed in House (EH)]
In the House of Representatives, U.S.,
March 16, 2005.
Resolved,
SECTION 1. ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO JOINT COMMITTEE ON PRINTING.
The following Members are hereby elected to the Joint Committee on Printing,
to serve with the chair of the Committee on House Administration:
(1) Mr. Doolittle.
(2) Mr. Reynolds.
(3) Ms. Millender-McDonald.
(4) Mr. Brady of Pennsylvania.
SEC. 2. ELECTION OF MEMBERS TO JOINT COMMITTEE OF CONGRESS ON THE LIBRARY.
The following Members are hereby elected to the Joint Committee of Congress
on the Library, to serve with the chair of the Committee on House
Administration:
(1) Mr. Ehlers.
(2) Mrs. Miller of Michigan.
(3) Ms. Millender-McDonald.
(4) Ms. Zoe Lofgren of California.
Attest:
Clerk.