Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.
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Rule provides for consideration of H. Res. 571 and H. Con. Res. 308 with 1 hour of general debate. Previous question shall be considered as ordered without intervening motions except motion to recommit. Sec. 2. Upon adoption of this resolution, House Concurrent Resolution 308 is adopted. Measure will be considered read. Bill is closed to amendments.
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Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
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Mr. Speaker, yesterday the gentleman from Pennsylvania spoke with courage and conviction about the war in Iraq, and there is no one in this body who knows more about our national defense and has…
Mr. Speaker, yesterday the gentleman from Pennsylvania spoke with courage and conviction about the war in Iraq, and there is no one in this body who knows more about our national defense and has devoted more of his life to our troops and our security than Jack Murtha. But evidently his speech has prompted this stunt that the Republicans are pulling here to force a vote on a resolution never considered by any committee.
Well, I must tell the Members that like the intelligence that led to war, the resolution before this body is a fake. Republicans are describing this resolution as a Murtha resolution, but it is not his language and differs in key ways from his proposal.
One of the points Mr. Murtha raised yesterday was the misuse of intelligence on Iraq. He called the war a flawed policy wrapped in illusion. Like Mr. Murtha, I voted for that war. And like him, I have profound concerns about the intelligence, that it was warped and twisted to justify an invasion.
My concerns are deeply personal. I voted for the war resolution because the President said Iraq would soon brandish nuclear bombs; and like millions of Americans, I was misled.
I raised concerns about the nuclear intelligence in a letter to the President on March 17, 2003, before any bullets were fired and before the war started, and I am going to attach this letter to my statement, but I want to read a part of it.
I wrote: ``Dear, Mr. President, in the last 10 days, it has become incontrovertibly clear that a key piece of evidence you and others in the administration have cited regarding Iraq's efforts to obtain nuclear weapons is a hoax. The evidence in question is correspondence that indicates that Iraq sought to obtain nuclear material from an African country. For several months this evidence has been a central part of the U.S. case against Iraq. It has now been conceded that this evidence was a forgery. Even more troubling, the CIA, which has been aware of this information since 2001, has never regarded the evidence as reliable.
``The implications of this fact are profound. It means that a key part of the case you have been building against Iraq is evidence that your own intelligence experts do not believe is credible. It is hard to imagine how this situation could have developed. The two most obvious explanations, knowing deception or unfathomable incompetence, both have immediate and serious implications.''
I made that request 2\1/2\ years ago, and I am still waiting for an answer. The President has never explained how forged evidence could become a cornerstone in the case for the war on Iraq.
Yesterday, the gentleman from Pennsylvania spoke with courage and conviction about the war in Iraq. There is no one in this body who knows more about our national defense--and who has devoted more of his life--to our troops and our security than Jack Murtha.
His speech has prompted this stunt by the Republicans to force a vote on a resolution never considered by any committee. Like the intelligence that led the Nation to war, the resolution before this body is a fake. Republicans are describing this resolution as the Murtha resolution. But it is not his language and differs in key ways from his proposal.
One of the points Mr. Murtha raised yesterday was the misuse of the intelligence on Iraq. He called the war ``a flawed policy wrapped in illusion.''
Like Mr. Murtha, I voted for the war. And like him, I have profound concerns about how the intelligence was warped and twisted to justify an invasion.
My concerns are deeply personal. I voted for the war resolution because the President said Iraq would soon brandish nuclear bombs. And like millions of Americans, I was misled.
I raised concerns about the nuclear intelligence in a letter to the President on March 17, 2003--before any bullets were fired and before the war started. I ask unanimous consent to introduce this letter into the Record.
I wrote:
Dear Mr. President: . . . In the last ten days, it has
become incontrovertibly clear that a key piece of evidence
you and other Administration officials have cited regarding
Iraq's efforts to obtain nuclear weapons is a hoax. . . .
The evidence in question is correspondence that indicates
that Iraq sought to obtain nuclear material from an African
country, Niger. For several months, this evidence has been a
central part of the -U.S. case against Iraq. . . . [I]n your
State of the Union address, you stated: ``The British
government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought
significant quantities of uranium from Africa.''
It has now been conceded that this evidence was a forgery.
. . . Even more troubling, . . . the CIA, which has been
aware of this information since 2001, has never regarded the
evidence as reliable. The implications of this fact are
profound: it means that a key part of the case you have been
building against Iraq is evidence that your own intelligence
experts . . . do not believe is credible.
It is hard to imagine how this situation could have
developed. The two most obvious explanations--knowing
deception or unfathomable incompetence--both have immediate
and serious implications.
I made that request 2\1/2\ years ago. And I am still waiting for an answer. The President has never explained how forged evidence could become a cornerstone of the case for war in Iraq.
And this body has been part of the cover-up. We've averted our eyes and shut down our oversight committees. The Washington Republicans who run this body are afraid to ask questions and embarrass the President. They have abrogated their solemn constitutional obligations to hold the executive branch accountable for its abuses.
As the ranking Democrat on the House Committee in charge of oversight and investigations, I have requested hearings to review:
(1) The way intelligence was manipulated by people in this administration. On my website--www.reform.democrats.house.gov_there is a report of 237 misleading and inaccurate statements made by the President, Vice President, Secretary of State and Defense and the National Security Adviser, based on what they knew at the time and not what we learned later.
(2) An investigation of prison treatment by the U.S. after Abu Graib.
(3) An investigation of the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame for political purposes, even though it jeopardized our national security.
(4) An investigation of the secret meetings Vice President Cheney had with energy executives regarding our energy policy.
The Republicans should do the work required under our Constitution-- do the oversight to provide the checks and balances to avoid a concentration of power in an imperial and out of touch administration.
House of Representatives,
Committee on Government Reform,
Washington, DC, March 17, 2003.
The President,
The White House,
Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. President: I am writing regarding a matter of
grave concern. Upon your order, our armed forces will soon
initiate the first preemptive war in our nation's history.
The most persuasive justification for this war is that we
must act to prevent Iraq from developing nuclear weapons.
In the last ten days, however, it has become
incontrovertibly clear that a key piece of evidence you and
other Administration officials have cited regarding Iraq's
efforts to obtain nuclear weapons is a hoax. What's more, the
Central Intelligence Agency questioned the veracity of the
evidence at the same time you and other Administration
officials were citing it in public statements. This is a
breach of the highest order, and the American people are
entitled to know how it happened.
As you know, I voted for the congressional resolution
condemning Iraq and authorizing the use of force. Despite
serious misgivings, I supported the resolution because I
believed congressional approval would significantly improve
the likelihood of effective U.N. action. Equally important, I
believed that you had access to reliable intelligence
information that merited deference.
Like many other members, I was particularly influenced by
your views about Iraq's nuclear intentions. Although chemical
and biological weapons can inflict casualties, no argument
for attacking Iraq is as compelling as the possibility of
Saddam Hussein brandishing nuclear bombs. That, obviously, is
why the evidence in this area is so crucial, and why so many
have looked to you for honest and credible information on
Iraq's nuclear capability.
The evidence in question is correspondence that indicates
that Iraq sought to obtain nuclear material from an African
country, Niger. For several months, this evidence has been a
central part of the U.S. case against Iraq. On December 19,
the State Department filed a response to Iraq's disarmament
declaration to the U.N. Security Council. The State
Department response stated: ``The Declaration ignores efforts
to procure uranium from Niger.'' A month later, in your State
of the Union address, you stated: ``The British government
has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant
quantities of uranium from Africa.'' Defense Secretary
Rumsfeld subsequently cited the evidence in briefing
reporters.
It has now been conceded that this evidence was a forgery.
On March 7, the Director General of the International Atomic
Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, reported that the evidence
that Iraq sought nuclear materials from Niger was ``not
authentic.'' As subsequent media accounts indicated, the
evidence contained ``crude errors,'' such as a ``childlike
signature'' and the use of stationary from a military
government in Niger that has been out of power for over a
decade.
Even more troubling, however, the CIA, which has been aware
of this information since 2001, has never regarded the
evidence as reliable. The implications of this fact are
profound: it means that a key part of the case you have been
building against Iraq is evidence that your own intelligence
experts at the Central Intelligence Agency do not believe is
credible.
It is hard to imagine how this situation could have
developed. The two most obvious explanations--knowing
deception or unfathomable incompetence--both have immediate
and serious implications. It is thus imperative that you
address this matter without delay and provide an alternative
explanation, if there is one.
The rest of this letter will explain my concerns in detail.
Use of the Evidence by U.S. Officials
The evidence that Iraq sought to purchase uranium from an
African country was first revealed by the British government
on September 24, 2002, when Prime Minister Tony Blair
released a 50-page report on Iraqi efforts to acquire weapons
of mass destruction. As the New York Times reported in a
front-page article, one of the two ``chief new elements'' in
the report was the claim that Iraq had ``sought to acquire
uranium in Africa that could be used to make nuclear
weapons.''
This evidence subsequently became a significant part of the
U.S. case against Iraq. On December 7, Iraq filed its weapons
declaration with the United Nations Security Council. The
U.S. response relied heavily on the evidence that Iraq had
sought to obtain uranium from Africa.
For example, this is how the New York Times began its
front-page article on December 13 describing the U.S.
response:
``American intelligence agencies have reached a preliminary
conclusion that Iraq's 12,000 page declaration of its weapons
program fails to account for chemical and biological agents
missing when inspectors left Iraq four years ago, American
officials and United Nations diplomats said today.
``In addition, Iraq's declaration on its nuclear program,
they say, leaves open a host of questions. Among them is why
Iraq was seeking to buy uranium in Africa in recent years.''
The official U.S. response was provided on December 19,
when Secretary of State Colin Powell appeared before the
Security Council. As the Los Angeles Times reported, ``A one-
page State Department fact sheet . . . lists what Washington
considers the key omissions and deceptions in Baghdad's Dec.
7 weapons declaration.'' One of the eight ``key omissions and
deceptions'' was the failure to explain Iraq's attempts to
purchase uranium from an African country.
Specifically, the State Department fact sheet contains the
following points under the heading ``Nuclear Weapons'': ``The
Declaration ignores efforts to procure uranium from Niger.
Why is the Iraqi regime hiding their uranium procurement?'' A
copy of this fact sheet is enclosed with this letter.
The Iraqi efforts to obtain uranium from Africa were deemed
significant enough to be included in your State of the Union
address to Congress. You stated: ``The British government has
learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant
quantities of uranium from Africa.'' As the Washington Post
reported the next day, ``the president seemed quite specific
as he ticked off the allegations last night, including the
news that Iraq had secured uranium from Africa for the
purpose of making nuclear bombs.''
A day later, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told
reporters at a news briefing that Iraq ``recently was
discovered seeking significant quantities of uranium from
Africa.''
Knowledge of the Unreliability of the Evidence
The world first learned that the evidence linking Iraq to
attempts to purchase uranium from Africa was forged from the
Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency
(IAEA), Mohamed ElBaradei. On March 7, Director ElBaradei
reported to the U.N. Security Council: ``Based on thorough
analysis, the IAEA has concluded, with the concurrence of
outside experts, that these documents--which formed the basis
for reports of recent uranium transactions between Iraq and
Niger--are in fact not authentic. We have therefore concluded
that these specific allegations are unfounded.''
Recent accounts in the news media have provided additional
details. According to the Washington Post, the faked evidence
included ``a series of letters between Iraqi agents and
officials in the central African nation of Niger.'' The
article stated that the forgers ``made relatively crude
errors that eventually gave them away--including names and
titles that did not match up with the individuals who held
office at the time the letters were purportedly written.''
CNN reported: ``one of the documents purports to be a letter
signed by Tandjia Mamadou, the president of Niger, talking
about the uranium deal with Iraq. On it [is] a childlike
signature that is clearly not his. Another, written on paper
from a 1980s military government in Niger, bears the date of
October 2000 and the signature of a man who by then had
not been foreign minister of Niger for 14 years.''
U.S. intelligence officials had doubts about the veracity
of the evidence long before Director ElBaradei's report. The
Los Angeles Times reported on March 15 that ``the CIA first
heard allegations that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger in
late 2001'' when ``the existence of the documents was
reported to [the CIA] second- or third-hand.'' The Los
Angeles Times quotes one CIA official as saying: ``We
included that in some of our reporting, although it was all
caveated because we had concerns about the accuracy of that
information.'' The Washington Post reported on March 13:
``The CIA . . . had questions about `whether they were
accurate,' said one intelligence official, and it decided not
to include them in its file on Iraq's program to procure
weapons of mass destruction.''
There have been suggestions by some Administration
officials that there may be other evidence besides the forged
documents that shows Iraq tried to obtain uranium from an
African country. For instance, CIA officials recently stated
that ``U.S. concerns regarding a possible uranium agreement
between Niger and Iraq were not based solely on the documents
which are now known to be fraudulent.'' The CIA provided this
other information to the IAEA along with the forged
documents. After reviewing this complete body of evidence,
the IAEA stated: ``we have found to date no evidence or
plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons
programme in Iraq.'' Ultimately, the IAEA concluded that
``these specific allegations are unfounded.''
questions
These facts raise troubling questions. It appears that at
the same time that you, Secretary Rumsfeld, and State
Department officials were citing Iraq's efforts to obtain
uranium from Africa as a crucial part of the case against
Iraq, U.S. intelligence officials regarded this very same
evidence as unreliable. If true, this is deeply disturbing:
it would mean that your Administration asked the U.N.
Security Council, the Congress, and the American people to
rely on information that your own experts knew was not
credible.
Your statement to Congress during the State of the Union,
in particular, raises a host of questions. The statement is
worded in a way that suggests it was carefully crafted to be
both literally true and deliberately misleading at the same
time. The statement itself--``The British government has
learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant
quantities of uranium from Africa''--may be technically
accurate, since this appears to be the British position. But
given what the CIA knew at the time, the implication you
intended--that there was credible evidence that Iraq sought
uranium from Africa--was simply false.
To date, the White House has avoided explaining why the
Administration relied on this forged evidence in building its
case against Iraq. The first Administration response, which
was provided to the Washington Post, was ``we fell for it.''
But this is no longer credible in light of the information
from the CIA. Your spokesman, Ari Fleischer, was asked about
this issue at a White House news briefing on March 14, but
as the following transcript reveals, he claimed ignorance and
avoided the question:
Q: Ari, as the president said in his State of the Union
address, the British government has learned that Saddam
Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium
from Africa. And since then, the IAEA said that those were
forged documents----
Mr. Fleischer: I'm sorry, whose statement was that?
Q: The President, in his State of the Union address. Since
then, the IAEA has said those were forged documents. Was the
administration aware of any doubts about these documents, the
authenticity of the documents, from any government agency or
department before it was submitted to the IAEA?
Mr. Fleisher: These are matters that are always reviewed
with an eye toward the various information that comes in and
is analyzed by a variety of different people. The President's
concerns about Iraq come from multiple places, involving
multiple threats that Iraq can possess, and these are matters
that remain discussed.
``Thank you [end of briefing].
Plainly, more explanation is needed. I urge you to provide
to me and to the relevant committees of Congress a full
accounting of what you knew about the reliability of the
evidence linking Iraq to uranium in Africa, when you knew
this, and why you and senior officials in the Administration
presented the evidence to the U.N. Security Council, the
Congress, and the American people without disclosing the
doubts of the CIA. In particular, I urge you to address:
(1) Whether CIA officials communicated their doubts about
the credibility of the forged evidence to other
Administration officials, including officials in the
Department of State, the Department of Defense, the National
Security Council, and the White House;
(2) Whether the CIA had any input into the ``Fact Sheet''
distributed by the State Department on December 19, 2002; and
(3) Whether the CIA reviewed your statement in the State of
the Union address regarding Iraq's attempts to obtain uranium
from Africa and, if so, what the CIA said about the
statement.
Given the urgency of the situation, I would appreciate an
expeditious response to these questions.
Sincerely,
Henry A. Waxman,
Ranking Minority Member.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Somebody walked by not long ago, and they said, I do not have to go to your funeral because I paid my dues today with all these people giving…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Somebody walked by not long ago, and they said, I do not have to go to your funeral because I paid my dues today with all these people giving these accolades.
I have to tell you this story. When you start getting all these accolades, you think you are a big shot. I remember one time President Carter asked me to go to the seventh game of the World Series with him. Tip O'Neill and I went down, and there were only 4 of us and 15 Secret Service people in the plane.
We got in this helicopter and, of course, flew over all these other people going to the ballgame. Well, Carter was not the most pleasant guy to be with. He wanted to talk all business, and Tip O'Neill wanted to talk nothing but baseball.
So we get about halfway there, and it is not a very long trip to Baltimore. Tip finally got him warmed up. We land, and we only land a block away from the stadium, but we had to have an armored car drive us in. So the President said, you sit in the middle there, Murtha, and Tip sat on the left side, and the President sat on the right side. Some guy yelled out some obscenities. He said, My God, they must have recognized Murtha in the car.
Let me say, this resolution today is not what I envisioned, not what I introduced, and let me read what I introduced on November 17.
``Whereas Congress and the American people have not been shown clear, measurable progress toward establishment of stable and improving security in Iraq or of a stable and improving economy in Iraq, both of which are essential to `promote the emergence of a democratic government';
``Whereas additional stabilization in Iraq by U.S. military forces cannot be achieved without the deployment of hundreds of thousands of additional U.S. troops, which in turn cannot be achieved without a military draft.''
Now, let me say this. There were two of us who voted for a military draft, so I do not think that is an option. When you go to the high schools, they say, you are for a draft. I said, yes, but there is not too many of us, and I do not think you have to worry about it.
``Whereas more than $277 billion has been appropriated by the United States Congress to prosecute U.S. military action in Iraq and Afghanistan;
``Whereas, as of the drafting of this resolution, 2,079 U.S. troops have been killed in Operation Iraqi Freedom;
``Whereas U.S. forces become the target of the insurgency;
``Whereas, according to recent polls, over 80 percent of the Iraqi people want the U.S. forces out of Iraq;
``Whereas polls also indicate that 45 percent,'' this is a British poll, but the Defense Department support this British poll or confirm this British poll, ``of the Iraqi people feel that the attacks on U.S. forces are justified.''
Hear what I am saying. Forty-five percent of the Iraqi people feel it is justified to attack Americans.
``Whereas, due to the foregoing, Congress finds it evident that continuing U.S. military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the people of Iraq, or the Persian Gulf Region, which were cited in Public Law 107-243 as justification for undertaking such action.''
I did not say anything about intelligence. I did not say anything about the President. All these statements that have been made vilifying me today did not say anything like that.
``Therefore be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and the forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.
``Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the-horizon presence of U.S. Marines shall be deployed in the region.
``The United States of America shall pursue security and stability in Iraq through diplomacy.''
That is what I said. I have never had in the 32 years that I have been in Congress such an outpouring from this country, four to one in my office. You cannot even call my office if you tried, an outpouring of people crying. People are thirsting for some direction. They are thirsting for a solution to this problem. They want to support the President. I want to support the President. Everybody does.
We put into place in the Appropriations Committee a criteria for success because we were so unhappy. This was in May. The gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young) and I put a criteria for success in the bill, it was a Moran amendment, because we were not happy with the results. Nobody was talking to us. Nobody would tell us what was going on, and we felt it was absolutely necessary that we put this into writing.
I went to Iraq about 2 months ago, and I talked to the commanders, and all of you know the commanders are very hesitant to say anything that is not in the policy of the White House, and I agree, that is the way it is run by the civilians. That is the way it should be, but I could tell how discouraged the commanders were.
The one Marine commander said, I do not have troops to put on the border, the Syrian border. Now, why did they not have enough troops? Because of the deployment, because of the small number of people that are serving in our Armed Forces today.
We told them, the Armed Services Committee, under Duncan Hunter's leadership, said you can take 30,000 more people. They cannot recruit to that. They have fallen 10,000 short; and not only have they fallen 10,000 short, they are now taking 20 percent category 4s, which they said in the voluntary Army would never happen.
The war's not going as advertised. The American public is way ahead of us. If you heard the World War II veterans, if you heard the Vietnam veterans, the wives and the widows on the phone crying to my staff and myself when I am talking to them, if you heard them reaching out and asking for a policy, a bipartisan policy. When I introduced this resolution, I did not introduce this as a partisan resolution.
I go by Arlington Cemetery every day, and the Vice President, he criticizes Democrats. Let me tell you, those gravestones do not say Democrat or Republican. They say American, and Dick Cheney's a good friend of mine. He was a good Secretary of Defense.
Our military is suffering. The future of our country is at risk. We cannot continue on the present course. It is evident that continued military action in Iraq is not in the best interests of the United States of America, the Iraqi people and the Persian Gulf region. That is my opinion.
General Casey said in a September 2005 hearing, the perception of occupation in Iraq is a major driving force behind the insurgency. Hear what I am saying. General Abizaid said on the same date, reducing the size of visibility of the coalition forces in Iraq is part of our counterinsurgency strategy.
For 2\1/2\ years I have been concerned about our policy and the plan in Iraq. I have addressed my concerns to the administration and the Pentagon.
I have spoken out in public about my concerns in going to war.
A few days before the start of the war, I was in Kuwait. They drew a red line around Baghdad; and they said when the American forces cross the red line, they will attack us with weapons of mass destruction, meaning biological and chemical weapons. I believed that. They believed it. The military commanders believed it. And when they went in, though, they felt they had sufficient protective gear that they could overcome it. The heat would dissipate some of the gas and so forth, and it would be no problem for our forces, they felt. They even thought they had cell phones monitored so they could tell that it was there. It turned out not to be true.
Let me tell the Members this: Bill Young and I have been on the Defense
Subcommittee for 25 years. We spend more money on intelligence than all the countries in the world put together and more on intelligence than most countries' GDP. But the intelligence concerning Iraq was wrong. It is not a world intelligence failure. It is a U.S. intelligence failure.
I have been visiting our wounded troops at Bethesda, and only two people, I think, visit any more than I do, and that is Bill Young's wife and Bill Young. They go there as often as I do, and Beverly goes more often.
Now, let me tell the Members what demoralizes the troops. Going to war with not enough troops and equipment to make the transition to peace, the devastation caused by IEDs, being deployed to Iraq when their homes have been ravaged by hurricanes, being under second and third deployment and leaving their families behind without a network of support.
The threat posed by terrorism is real, but we have other threats that cannot be ignored. We must be prepared to meet all these threats. The future of our military is at risk. Our military and their families are stretched thin. A very small percentage of people in this country are serving this country at this stage in this war. Many say the Army is broken. Some of our troops are on their third deployment. Recruitment is down. Defense budgets are being cut, $5 billion this year, $5 billion cut from the defense budget; and the chairman and I are concerned they are going to cut another percentage point, which is $4 billion more, from the defense budget.
Personnel costs are skyrocketing, particularly in health care. And choices have to be made. We cannot allow a promise that we have made to our military families in terms of service benefits, in terms of their health care to be negotiated away. Procurement programs that ensure our military dominance cannot be negotiated away. We must be prepared.
The war in Iraq has caused huge shortfalls in our bases in the United States. I visited four bases, four Southern bases, premier bases. Every one of them was short, short radios, short mortars, short ammunition even. Our troops were C-4, which means the lowest state of readiness, because they did not have the equipment to train right before they are deployed to Iraq. And much of our ground equipment is worn out and in need of serious overhaul.
I have said to all these CEOs that come to see me, Folks, do not think about procurement. We about bought, what, five or six ships this year, something like that. They said they are going to build 12 next year. Do not believe that. But I will tell the Members one thing we have to do is rehabilitate this equipment. A $50 billion bill, in my estimation, and I do not know where the money is going to come from.
George Washington said: ``To be prepared for war is one of the most effective means of preserving peace.'' I do not know what the threat is, but I will tell you it takes 18 years to get a weapons system out there, and we had better well get those systems put together now. We had better start them right now because we do not have them. They have a system right now they are thinking of cutting back. The Europeans invested a lot of money in it. Billions of dollars have been invested in this weapon system, JSF. If they cut back the buy, the cost to increase, the Europeans will cut back on their buy, and it will skyrocket the price; and we will have to reduce the number of airplanes that we buy. We must rebuild our Army.
Our deficit is growing out of control. The Director of the Congressional Budget Office recently admitted to being ``terrified'' about the budget deficit in the coming decades. This is the first prolonged war we have fought with 3 years of tax cuts, without full mobilization of American industry, and without a draft. The burden of war has not been shared equally, and the military and their families are shouldering this burden.
Our military has been fighting a war in Iraq for over 2\1/2\ years. Our military has accomplished its mission and done its duty. Our military captured Saddam Hussein, captured or killed his closest associates. But the war continues to intensify. And you know the deaths and you know they estimate that not only do we have 15,500 that have been wounded, but we have 50,000 that we think may suffer from what I call battle fatigue.
I just recently visited Anbar Province, as I said, and I became convinced that we had to take some action. I became convinced that I needed to say something about what was going on. I needed to introduce a resolution which would bring this to a head so we could come to a bipartisan resolution to fight this war together, to show our troops how we support them, and that resolution calls for a redeployment of our troops. I said over a year ago now, the military and the administration agree, Iraq cannot be won militarily.
We can say it here in these air conditioned offices, but let me tell you something. It cannot be won militarily. It has got to be won politically, and we have to turn it over to the Iraqis and give them the incentive to take back their own country.
Our troops have become the primary target of the insurgency. They are united against U.S. forces. We have become the catalyst for violence. U.S. troops are the common enemy of the Sunnis, the Saddamists, and the foreign jihadists. I believe with U.S. troop redeployment, the Iraqi security forces will be incentivized to take control. A poll recently conducted shows 80 percent of the Iraqis oppose the presence of coalition troops. I believe we need to turn Iraq over to the Iraqis. I believe the Iraqi election scheduled for mid-December, the Iraqi people in the emerging government must be put on notice: the United States will immediately redeploy. All of Iraq must know that Iraq is free, free from United States occupation. I believe this will send a signal to the Sunnis to join the political process for a good and free Iraq.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Normally the soldiers cannot speak for themselves. I do not believe we are making the progress that is articulated in many cases. Everything I see, oil production is below prewar level; electricity production is below prewar level; incidents have increased from 150 a week to 770 a week in Iraq.
But let me read a letter from a young soldier at Walter Reed. Everybody says when you go to Walter Reed, they all want to go right back, and they usually do not complain. Let me read this letter.
``I am sure you are extremely busy today with the announcement of your support for the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. We have been trying unsuccessfully to reach you by phone.
``My husband is an injured Iraq soldier who so highly commends you for speaking out about this disastrous war and its aftermath on U.S. troops. Though we are now living in Washington, D.C., on the Walter Reed campus, we are originally from your 12th District in Pennsylvania.
``Congressman Murtha actually pinned my husband's Purple Heart. We are so proud that he was the man to honor my husband for what he did in Iraq. It may serve Mr. Murtha more to remind him that my husband is the 24-year-old guardsman who lost part of a leg in a suicide car bomb attack in April of this year.
``We were shocked and overjoyed that Murtha spoke out against the Bush administration's handling of the war. Unlike what many say is a blow to troop morale by questioning the war, his frank call for attention to the subject brought nods and applause from the injured soldiers at Walter Reed's Mologne House. It is the first that my husband and I feel that a politician has truly stuck up for the soldiers most personally affected by the war in Iraq.''
We send the soldiers to the war. We are the ones that make that decision. We also have to speak out when we do not think the war is going in the right direction.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Let me read another letter.
``We are Gold Star parents. Our son was killed October 18, 2003, south of Kirkuk with the 173rd Airborne Brigade. You and I talked for about 90 minutes on the phone in early 2004. I
have spent the better part of 2 years lobbying for improved body armor.''
Do Members remember, we sent the troops to war without body armor? We found the body armor. We found the shortage and up-armored the Humvees. Congress found it, and we put the money in the bill.
``We believe the best way to support the troops is through a responsible and well-thought-out foreign policy.''
Not stay the course, but a thought out, and this is from a woman whose son was killed.
``We do not have that policy today in Iraq. By staying in Iraq, we have become occupiers instead of liberators.'' And 80 percent of the Iraqis think that.
``Today we are called un-American because we are obligated to disagree with the President. We want better for our son's comrades. It is our obligation to stand up and be counted to support the troops, to speak for those that are not free to speak for themselves, to use their bravery and sacrifice wisely. You, sir, are a man of our heart. God knows why the rest of the Democratic Party is not rallying around you, but we are. Even as we stand alone, it is the right thing to do. Our support is unequivocal for you on matter in this dangerous and lonely time.''
I yield to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Buyer).
Let me read another letter.
``In 2004, my youngest son graduated from college and was already enrolled in the Marines. He was ready to help our country and others in whatever was asked of him. It was with great distress that we have watched the administration mishandle this war. There was no plan.''
What the gentleman from Indiana said about World War II, there was a plan. There was a plan when we went into Normandy. We landed 150,000 people in 24 hours. There is the conception at home that there is no plan. I hear this over and over again. That is why there was such an outpouring when I offered a plan, when people called me and said they wanted a plan.
``It was with great distress that we have watched the administration mishandle this war. There was no plan, no push to go in and win the war in total. Mission Accomplished was a joke, and even we the uniformed knew then that it was a misnomer. Losing Colin Powell from the administration was a deep blow to us. We respected his honor and his professionalism. His soldier inside. Our son has had one deployment to Iraq. He came home safely this time, and awaits his second deployment in July. Congressman Murtha, we are a patriotic family, but I cannot abide by sending my son back into a war where there is no goal, no plan, and a war being planned by Donald Rumsfeld and Vice President Cheney. We would feel differently if we felt our son was being used in the proper manner, and for a valiant effort. But we feel that they are clay pigeons in a carnival, just waiting for the next suicide bomber or IED. My husband and I did not feel this way 6 months ago. We thought the administration had realized their inadequacy and were making changes, and that we should stay the course. That has not happened. Things continue in disarray. This is not the best use of our military, nor respectful of the values and ideals of the servicemen and women within it. We support your views and we feel that there is a need for change.''
That is what I am saying. We need to change direction in Iraq.
Mr. Speaker, I spent 3 years making the case against the war in Iraq, working with other Members leading a nationwide opposition to the war, developing an exit strategy once we got in, working with…
Mr. Speaker, I spent 3 years making the case against the war in Iraq, working with other Members leading a nationwide opposition to the war, developing an exit strategy once we got in, working with colleagues on both sides of the aisle on plans to withdraw from Iraq, to bring our troops home, but I will vote against this resolution because it is a fraud.
What more does anyone need to know but that the sponsor himself has called for defeat of his own proposition? If his real intention is to bring the troops home right now, why would he vote against his own resolution?
Wake up, America. The American people are fed up with politicians who say one thing and do another. Everyone of conscience and intelligence knows the magnitude of withdrawing 150,000 troops requires a plan.
The American people deserve a real debate on Iraq. Where are the WMDs? Where is Osama bin Laden? What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
This Congress, which is a coequal branch of government, which has the war power, has the oversight responsibility and has a moral obligation to find out why almost everything of significance we were told about the war turned out to be false. Instead, those who raise questions have their military service or their honor impugned.
They took John Kerry on a swift boat. We are not going to let them take Jack Murtha on a swift boat, nor are the American people. We have to stand up and expose the fakery when we see it.
Analysis of Joint Resolution on Iraq by Dennis J. Kucinich
The following is an analysis of the resolution which took
America to war in Iraq.
October 2, 2002. Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war
of aggression against an illegal occupation of Kuwait, the
United States forged a coalition of nations to liberate
Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national
security of the United States and enforce United Nations
Security Council resolutions relating to Iraq;
Key issue: In the Persian Gulf war there was an
international coalition. World support was for protecting
Kuwait. There is no world support for invading Iraq.
Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq
entered into a United Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement
pursuant to which Iraq unequivocally agreed, among other
things, to eliminate its nuclear, biological, and chemical
weapons programs and the means to deliver and develop them,
and to end its support for international terrorism;
Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors,
United States intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led
to the discovery that Iraq had large stockpiles of chemical
weapons and a large scale biological weapons program, and
that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development program
that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than
intelligence reporting had previously indicated;
Key issue: UN inspection teams identified and destroyed
nearly all such weapons. A lead inspector, Scott Ritter, said
that he believes that nearly all other weapons not found were
destroyed in the Gulf War. Furthermore, according to a
published report in the Washington Post, the Central
Intelligence Agency has no up to date accurate report on
Iraq's WMD capabilities.
Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the
cease-fire, attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons
inspectors to identify and destroy Iraq's weapons of mass
destruction stockpiles and development capabilities, which
finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from Iraq on
October 31, 1998;
Key issues: Iraqi deceptions always failed. The inspectors
always figured out what Iraq was doing. It was the United
States that withdrew from the inspections in 1998. And the
United States then launched a cruise missile attack against
Iraq 48 hours after the inspectors left. In advance of a
military strike, the U.S. continues to thwart (the
Administration's word) weapons inspections.
Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing
weapons of mass destruction programs threatened vital United
States interests and international peace and security,
declared Iraq to be in ``material and unacceptable breach of
its international obligations'' and urged the President ``to
take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution
and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into
compliance with its international obligations'' (Public Law
105-235);
Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national
security of the United States and international peace and
security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material
and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by,
among other things, continuing to possess and develop a
significant chemical and biological weapons capability,
actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting
and harboring terrorist organizations;
Key issues: There is no proof that Iraq represents an
imminent or immediate threat to the United States. A
``continuing'' threat does not constitute a sufficient cause
for war. The Administration has refused to provide the
Congress with credible intelligence that proves that Iraq is
a serious threat to the United States and is continuing to
possess and develop chemical and biological and nuclear
weapons. Furthermore there is no credible intelligence
connecting Iraq to Al Qaida and 9/11.
Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the
United Nations Security Council by continuing to engage in
brutal repression of its civilian population thereby
threatening international peace and security in the region,
by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for non-Iraqi
citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American
serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully
seized by Iraq from Kuwait;
Key issues: This language is so broad that it would allow
the President to order an attack against Iraq even when there
is no material threat to the United States. Since this
resolution authorizes the use of force for all Iraq related
violations of the UN Security Council directives, and since
the resolution cites Iraq's imprisonment of non-Iraqi
prisoners, this resolution would authorize the President to
attack Iraq in order to liberate Kuwaiti citizens who may or
may not be in Iraqi prisons, even if Iraq met compliance with
all requests to destroy any weapons of
mass destruction. Though in 2002 at the Arab Summit, Iraq and
Kuwait agreed to bilateral negotiations to work out all
claims relating to stolen property and prisoners of war.
This use-of-force resolution enables the President to
commit U.S. troops to recover Kuwaiti property.
Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its
capability and willingness to use weapons of mass destruction
against other nations and its own people;
Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its
continuing hostility toward, and willingness to attack, the
United States, including by attempting in 1993 to assassinate
former President Bush and by firing on many thousands of
occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces engaged
in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security
Council;
Key issue: The Iraqi regime has never attacked nor does it
have the capability to attack the United States. The ``no
fly'' zone was not the result of a UN Security Council
directive. It was illegally imposed by the United States,
Great Britain and France and is not specifically sanctioned
by any Security Council resolution.
Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing
responsibility for attacks on the United States, its
citizens, and interests, including the attacks that occurred
on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;
Key issue: There is no credible intelligence that connects
Iraq to the events of 9/11 or to participation in those
events by assisting Al Qaida.
Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other
international terrorist organizations, including
organizations that threaten the lives and safety of American
citizens;
Key issue: Any connection between Iraq support of terrorist
groups in Middle East, is an argument for focusing great
resources on resolving the conflict between Israel and the
Palestinians. It is not sufficient reason for the U.S. to
launch a unilateral preemptive strike against Iraq.
Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11,
2001 underscored the gravity of the threat posed by the
acquisition of weapons of mass destruction by international
terrorist organizations;
Key issue: There is no connection between Iraq and the
events of 9/11.
Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to
use weapons of mass destruction, the risk that the current
Iraqi regime will either employ those weapons to launch a
surprise attack against the United States or its Armed Forces
or provide them to international terrorists who would do so,
and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the
United States and its citizens from such an attack, combine
to justify action by the United States to defend itself;
Key issue: There is no credible evidence that Iraq
possesses weapons of mass destruction. If Iraq has
successfully concealed the production of such weapons since
1998, there is no credible evidence that Iraq has the
capability to reach the United States with such weapons. In
the 1991 Gulf War, Iraq had a demonstrated capability of
biological and chemical weapons, but did not have the
willingness to use them against the United States Armed
Forces. Congress has not been provided with any credible
information, which proves that Iraq has provided
international terrorists with weapons of mass destruction.
Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678
authorizes the use of all necessary means to enforce United
Nations Security Council Resolution 660 and subsequent
relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to cease certain
activities that threaten international peace and security,
including the development of weapons of mass destruction and
refusal or obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections
in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution
687, repression of its civilian population in violation of
United Nations Security Council Resolution 688, and
threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in
Iraq in violation of United Nations Security Council
Resolution 949;
Key issue: The UN Charter forbids all member nations,
including the United States, from unilaterally enforcing UN
resolutions.
Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military
Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has
authorized the President ``to use United States Armed Forces
pursuant to United Nations Security Council Resolution 678
(1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security Council
Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674,
and 677'';
Key issue: The UN Charter forbids all member nations,
including the United States, from unilaterally enforcing UN
resolutions with military force.
Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that
it ``supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the
goals of United Nations Security Council Resolution 687 as
being consistent with the Authorization of Use of Military
Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1), `` that
Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United
Nations Security Council Resolution 688 and ``constitutes a
continuing threat to the peace, security, and stability of
the Persian Gulf region,'' and that Congress, ``supports the
use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United
Nations Security Council Resolution 688'';
Key issue: This clause demonstrates the proper chronology
of the international process, and contrasts the current march
to war. In 1991, the UN Security Council passed a resolution
asking for enforcement of its resolution. Member countries
authorized their troops to participate in a UN-led coalition
to enforce the UN resolutions. Now the President is asking
Congress to authorize a unilateral first strike before the UN
Security Council has asked its member states to enforce UN
resolutions.
Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338)
expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the policy
of the United States to support efforts to remove from power
the current Iraqi regime and promote the emergence of a
democratic government to replace that regime;
Key issue: This ``Sense of Congress'' resolution was not
binding. Furthermore, while Congress supported democratic
means of removing Saddam Hussein it clearly did not endorse
the use of force contemplated in this resolution, nor did it
endorse assassination as a policy.
Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the
United States to ``work with the United Nations Security
Council to meet our common challenge'' posed by Iraq and to
``work for the necessary resolutions,'' while also making
clear that ``the Security Council resolutions will be
enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be
met, or action will be unavoidable'';
Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the
war on terrorism and Iraq's ongoing support for international
terrorist groups combined with its development of weapons of
mass destruction in direct violation of its obligations under
the 1991 ceasefire and other United Nations Security Council
resolutions make clear that it is in the national security
interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war
on terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security
Council resolutions be enforced, including through the use of
force if necessary;
Key issue: Unilateral action against Iraq will cost the
United States the support of the world community, adversely
affecting the war on terrorism. No credible intelligence
exists which connects Iraq to the events of 9/11 or to those
terrorists who perpetrated 9/11. Under international law, the
United States does not have the authority to unilaterally
order military action to enforce UN Security Council
resolutions.
Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the
war on terrorism through the provision of authorities and
funding requested by the President to take the necessary
actions against international terrorists and terrorist
organizations, including those nations, organizations or
persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the
terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001 or
harbored such persons or organizations;
Key issue: The Administration has not provided Congress
with any proof that Iraq is in any way connected to the
events of 9/11.
Whereas the President and Congress are determined to
continue to take all appropriate actions against
international terrorists and terrorist organizations,
including those nations, organizations or persons who
planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks
that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons
or organizations;
Key issue: The Administration has not provided Congress
with any proof that Iraq is in any way connected to the
events of 9/11. Furthermore, there is no credible evidence
that Iraq has harbored those who were responsible for
planning, authorizing or committing the attacks of 9/11.
Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution
to take action in order to deter and prevent acts of
international terrorism against the United States, as
Congress recognized in the joint resolution on Authorization
for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and
Key issue: This resolution was specific to 9/11. It was
limited to a response to 9/11.
Whereas it is in the national security of the United States
to restore international peace and security to the Persian
Gulf region;
Key issue: If by the ``national security interests'' of the
United States, the Administration means oil, it ought to
communicate such to the Congress. A unilateral attack on Iraq
by the United States will cause instability and chaos in the
region and sow the seeds of future conflicts all other the
world.
Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 4 minutes. I thank my friend the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey) for yielding me the customary 30 minutes. Mr. Speaker, let me, before I begin, let me ask my friend…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 4 minutes.
I thank my friend the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey) for yielding me the customary 30 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, let me, before I begin, let me ask my friend from Georgia, does his leadership plan to amend this martial law rule in any way to add any other issues besides the ones that have been listed?
I yield to the gentleman from Georgia.
Could the gentleman just tell me generally what the topic is going to be?
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I thank the gentleman.
Mr. Speaker, this is a very sad day in the House. This House, I think, is about to embark on a process that should dismay every single Member of this House. The only way keeping us from going down this road is I think to vote down this martial law rule.
While I have many strong objections, and many of us on this side have strong objections, to martial rules in general, we have been accommodating in the past when they come to matters like important conference reports or emergency pieces of legislation that we need to get done before the recess. But this matter on Iraq does not qualify in that category. In fact, we just received a copy of the resolution just a couple of minutes ago about what they plan to bring up here.
This is not about a debate on Iraq. This is about politics, clear and simple. I will go further to say that I believe this is a deliberate effort to attack a Member of this House and his views because the majority is afraid of this man and afraid of his views and afraid of his words, so they believe that somehow he has to be attacked, that we need to take some quick action here on the House floor.
Mr. Speaker, we should have a debate on Iraq. We should have had a debate on Iraq a long time ago. But what we are about to have is not a debate on Iraq. This will not be able to be amended, there be a limited amount of time for Members to be able to express their views, and, quite frankly, it is demeaning to this institution, it is demeaning to our soldiers, and it is demeaning to those who have raised questions about the war in Iraq. It is demeaning to the American public who now overwhelmingly have questions about this war in Iraq. They want us to take this issue seriously and not just play politics with it.
The fact of the matter is that from the very beginning, the efforts of this leadership have been geared toward covering up all of the facts about the war in Iraq. We were presented faulty intelligence. When we found out there were no weapons of mass destruction, we wanted a full investigation to figure out what actually went wrong, whether any of that intelligence had been manipulated. We were told we cannot have that investigation, we cannot have that discussion.
The fact of the matter is that we have had no formal investigations and no formal oversight of this war in Iraq. We sent a bunch of our soldiers off to war without proper equipment, without the proper body armor and Humvee protection, and this in spite of the fact that a few months before we went to war, we passed a defense authorization bill which essentially ordered the Pentagon to provide our soldiers with all the necessary equipment that they would need if they should ever go into war. Why did not that materialize? Where was the oversight into that?
Tens of billions of taxpayer dollars have been lost in this war in Iraq. We do not even know where it has gone, and nobody can give us an answer, and there is no investigation, there is no oversight, there is no debate.
The fact of the matter is this Congress has been complicit with the White House in covering up the facts. The situation at Abu Ghraib prison, I would argue that that instance probably more than anything else has been responsible for poisoning the hearts and minds of so many people in Iraq and the region. And rather than getting to the bottom of it, rather than making sure it never happens again, what has this Congress done? Covered up. Sweep it under the rug. Make believe it never happened.
You want a debate on Iraq? We should have a debate on Iraq, but not this bit of political theatrics. There are Members who believe that we should end this war immediately. I am one of those. There are Members who believe we should add more troops to the ones we already have in Iraq over there. All of us should have the opportunity to be able to debate this in a serious way.
Do you want to respect our troops? That is how you do it. You make sure we are doing our job. We have not been doing our job, and there is no objective person in this House, even those of you who staunchly support this war and advocate continuing staying the course, who can tell me things are going the way they were planned.
There are none of us in this Chamber who are going to fight in this that war, none of us are going to put our lives on the line, and, with very few exceptions, none of our kids are going to be fighting in that war. So it takes absolutely no courage for anybody in this chamber to wave the American flag and to say, ``Stay the course.''
This is not about a debate on Iraq, this is about political cover for you. This is about finding a way to not answer the tough questions. This is about a way to cover the administration's backside at a time when we should be demanding questions.
Congress should be doing its job, and this process, this process is a disgrace. We owe the people of this country, we owe the troops who are fighting bravely at our request over in Iraq, we owe them much more.
So, Mr. Speaker, this martial law rule needs to be defeated.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, anybody who believes that what we are doing today is not in response to the comments by one single Member of this Congress, a Member who is highly respected by both sides of the aisle, a Member who is a decorated Vietnam War veteran, a Member who is an expert on military and defense issues, anybody who believes we are not doing this in response to that, quite frankly, defies credibility. This is a personal attack on one of the best Members, one of the most respected Members of this House, and it is outrageous.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, with all due respect to the gentlewoman who just spoke,
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, let me say to the gentlewoman, if she wants to honor our troops, then give us a real debate. Do not bring this piece of garbage to the floor with an hour left at the end of the day. This is not honoring our troops. We are doing them a disservice. You are politicizing this war, and it is wrong.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Rangel).
(Mr. RANGEL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, if people do not like this resolution, they can vote against the rule.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Harman), the ranking member on the House Intelligence Committee.
Mr. Speaker, parliamentary inquiry.
The gentleman from Georgia just referred to this as a Democratic resolution. I would like to inquire of the Chair if he knows who introduced this legislation.
Congressman Hunter, a Republican?
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Reyes).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The gentlewoman who just spoke keeps on talking about how the Democrats want to call for immediate withdrawal without providing for the safe and orderly withdrawal of our troops and the protection of our troops. Only Mr. Hunter, the Republican from California, has called for that in his resolution. None of us have called for that.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Waxman).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 10 seconds.
Can I inquire of the gentleman from California how he intends to vote on the resolution that he has introduced that does not provide for the protection of our troops?
I yield to the gentleman from California.
You are going to vote against the Hunter amendment.
Thank you for voting against your own amendment.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 10 seconds to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I do not know a single Democrat who supports the Hunter resolution that would basically provide for the immediate withdrawal without the protection for our troops. This is a counterfeit. This is an insult to this institution. And to not allow us to have a real debate, to not allow us to bring up different proposals, I think, undercuts the process.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 15 seconds to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
For 24 hours you maligned a great Member of this House, a decorated Vietnam War veteran. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. DeFazio).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 10 seconds to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Frank).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. Lowey).
Mr. Speaker, may I inquire of the gentleman from Georgia how many more speakers he has on his side.
Mr. Speaker, let me close for our side here.
Mr. Speaker, sadly, this Republican resolution is consistent with the dishonest political way the Republican leadership has acted over the past 3\1/2\ years. This Congress has not served as a check. It has not served as a coequal branch of government. This Republican Congress is only interested in covering up for this administration. We have lost over 2,000 American men and women in Iraq. Thousands more are wounded. We have spent hundreds of billions of dollars in this war effort, our credibility around the world is at an all-time low, and this is the best that you can do for our soldiers, this resolution? This is it? This is our debate on Iraq? This is what the American people get for all of what they have gone through, all the sacrifices they have made?
As for this legislation by the gentleman from California, which hasn't had a hearing and hasn't had a markup, if it comes up, I am going to vote against it. I think all of us are going to vote against it because it does not provide for the safe and the orderly withdrawal of our forces. Nobody on this side has said anything other than that.
Let me close with this: to my Republican friends, Jack Murtha isn't afraid of you. He has faced down a lot worse than some of the pathetic smears that we have heard from the other side today. And let me be clear to all of you. If you truly oppose this resolution, if you want to honor our soldiers, if you want to do your job and hold this administration accountable, which we are supposed to do, then you should oppose this rule.
If you oppose the rule, we are not going to have to deal with this lousy bill. We will come back and do it right. To vote for this rule is to politicize a war and that is a mistake. All of us whether we are for this war or against this war, whether Republican or Democrat or liberal or conservative, we should not want to politicize this war. To do so is tragic.
Mr. Speaker, by moving ahead with this resolution, we demean the service of our soldiers. We demean the families who have lost loved ones in this war. We demean this institution. We need to do our job. This is not about a game of political gotcha. This is about doing the right thing, making sure we are on the right course, that we can disagree about that, but we can respect each other's opinion without trying to smear one another.
And so I would urge all my colleagues for the sake of collegiality, for the sake of civility in this House, for
the sake of doing the right thing for the people of this country and especially for our troops overseas vote down this rule. Vote down this rule. Let's end this right now, and let's come back and let's do it right and let's get the American people what they deserve: a real, thorough, honest debate and discussion on the war in Iraq.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I yield back my time.
Mr. Speaker, I have a parliamentary inquiry.
Mr. Speaker, I think a number of people on this side of the aisle and maybe on the other side of the aisle did not hear what the amendment is. Could it be repeated, please?
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the right to object.
I withdraw my reservation of objection, Mr. Speaker.
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Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 563 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 563 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 563 waives clause 6(a) of rule XIII that requires a two-thirds vote to consider a
rule on the same day it is reported from the Rules Committee against certain resolutions reported from the Rules Committee; applies a waiver to any special rule reported on the legislative day of November 18, 2005 providing for consideration or disposition of any of the following measures:
First, a bill or a joint resolution making general appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2006, any amendment thereto, or any conference report thereon; second, a conference report to accompany the bill H.R. 3199, to extend and modify authorities needed to combat terrorism and for other purposes; third, a bill or a joint resolution relating to flood insurance; and finally, fourth, a bill to provide for reconciliation pursuant to section 201 of the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2006.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in support of House Resolution 563 that the Rules Committee reported in order to ensure that we are able to complete the work of the American people in a timely and a proper manner before the Congress adjourns for Thanksgiving. In the following week, Members from both sides of the aisle will return to their districts to spend Thanksgiving with their families and with their constituents. However, before doing so, there remains important work to be done; and, Mr. Speaker, this rule will ensure that it gets done.
From making appropriations that keep this government running to ensuring that law enforcement has the tools it needs to keep this country safe, to insuring Americans against floods, to finally strengthening the economy while cutting the budget, this rule gives the House an opportunity to move forward on an important legislative agenda, though difficult choices have and will continue to have to be made for the sake of the American people, and for the sake of an agenda of which all Americans can be proud. Mr. Speaker, I want to encourage all of my colleagues to support this resolution and the underlying legislation for which it provides.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, in response to the gentleman from Massachusetts, yes, we will have an amendment to the rule, which I will present at the end of the debate.
The amendment would basically say, ``A resolution relating to United States forces in Iraq.''
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, this amendment does not attack any Member of this body. This amendment follows the rules of decorum of this body.
The gentleman from the other side just listed a litany of complaints in regard to Iraq. Members on his side of
the aisle even have what is known as the ``Out of Iraq Caucus.'' I do not know if the gentleman from Massachusetts is a part of that membership or not, but we have, this side of the aisle, have heard repeatedly from Members on their side of the aisle, and not just one high-profile ranking member with strong defense credentials. Oh, no. No. We have heard every night of the first session of the 109th Congress from the 30-something Group, several Members on their side of the aisle, pounding this President, coming within an inch or less, Mr. Speaker, of accusing the President of lying, of out and out lying, repeatedly accusing the President of misleading the public about Iraq, demanding the immediate pullout of our troops.
Mr. Speaker, they are going to have the opportunity today on the floor of this House to vote yes or no, do they want us to immediately pull our troops out of Iraq, and that is all this amendment is about.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I want to reiterate that this amendment to the resolution basically says, ``Resolved, that it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.'' It does not reference any Member whatsoever.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ros-Lehtinen).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from Virginia (Mrs. Drake).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The gentleman on the other side complained about not having enough time to discuss this resolution. We will have a minimum, Mr. Speaker, of 3 hours. We are debating right now the same-day rule. Then we will debate the rule on House Resolution 571 and then have the debate on the resolution itself. So there will be plenty of time for Members on both sides of the aisle to express their opinions on this hugely important issue.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Kansas (Mr. Tiahrt).
Mr. Speaker I yield 2\3/4\ minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston).
Mr. Speaker, I am proud to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Davis).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. Blackburn).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter), the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 15 seconds to the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. McCotter).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Ohio (Mrs. Schmidt), our newest Member.
I have no more speakers. I reserve the balance of my time for the purpose of closing.
Mr. Speaker, I close this debate by thanking the various Members of this body from the chairmen who have shepherded these legislative initiatives to the conferees whose hard work has given this House the opportunity to move our legislative agenda forward. While this process may not be perfect, Mr. Speaker, it is at the end of the day a process in which Members can work together through compromise and long hours to complete the work of the American people.
This is good governance; and, Mr. Speaker, good governance is never easy, but it never should be. This is serious work and the American people deserve every ounce of our attention and every ounce of our labor to see their agenda realized. Again, I would like to urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this resolution.
Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
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Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 572 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purposes of debate only, I yield 30 minutes to the…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 572 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purposes of debate only, I yield 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Slaughter), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 572 provides for the consideration of House Resolution 571, expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of the United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately. Section 2 of the rule provides that upon adoption of the rule House Concurrent Resolution 308 is hereby adopted.
Tonight, Mr. Speaker, this House, the people's House, stands at a crossroads. In one direction lies the forced retreat and dishonor for our troops who have placed their lives on the line for the defense of this country; and in the other direction, Mr. Speaker, we can stand together as one Nation, as one Congress, in celebration of those who have made an unparalleled commitment to their country.
For this Member of Congress who represents the eleventh district of Georgia, I know which direction I will choose. I know which course I will take. I will stand here tonight with our servicemen and -women who spend their days and nights fighting in the desert of Iraq to secure the freedom of a new democracy. Their Nation called them to arms. Their Nation called upon them for help in time of war. And, Mr. Speaker, they answered that call. They departed their country. They left their homes, their families to fight a war on foreign soil against an enemy that despises everything they and everything their country stands for.
They went to fight a tyrant by the name of Saddam Hussein who had murdered his own people, sought to conquer the Middle East for his own empire, and would have sought the destruction of the West and the values that we hold so dear. This tyrant was and is an enemy of liberty, and he had to be stopped.
Mr. Speaker, nightly on the floor of this House, some Members imply that the President misled our Nation, and they demand an immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq, ceding victory to the enemy. And now we have to answer the call of those who would besmirch their mission, who would besmirch their sacrifice.
Mr. Speaker, I stand prepared, along with my colleagues, to debate this rule and the underlying resolution.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/4\ minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Pitts).
(Mr. PITTS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Barrett).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Lincoln Diaz-Balart), the distinguished vice chairman of the Rules Committee.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Michigan (Mrs. Miller).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Renzi), a proud veteran.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Wilson).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Illinois (Mrs. Biggert).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Tancredo).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds.
Mr. Speaker, I remind the gentleman from North Carolina that this resolution is not an attack on any Member of this body. This resolution is about an attack on those Islamic Fascist terrorists who would destroy the men and women who are defending this country.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Frelinghuysen).
(Mr. FRELINGHUYSEN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Nevada (Mr. Gibbons).
(Mr. GIBBONS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Lewis).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Gilchrest).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Gohmert).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. Osborne).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. Fortenberry).
(Mr. FORTENBERRY asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, in closing, it is important to restate for the morale of our troops that this Congress and this country remain resolved in the war against terrorism. From the streets of Iraq to the mountains of Afghanistan, America will leave no spider hole, no palace, no bunker overlooked as we help freedom-loving people fight the terrorist insurgencies of Islamofascists and protect democracy worldwide.
Our greatest loss would be to withdraw our troops, thereby ceding victory to cowardly terrorists who murder and hide under the cover of shadows.
Mr. Speaker, over 2,000 of our best and bravest have fought and sacrificed their lives in defense of democracy and in the face of these terrorists. These individuals deserve our thanks and their families need to know that they did not die in vain.
Mr. Speaker, a lot of words have been thrown about in this Chamber tonight, but talk is often cheap. And while cheap talk abounds, unfortunately, cheap talk is not bounded, it is not insulated by oceans or mountains, and certainly not by the media.
The words of this Congress and its Members echo out beyond this hallowed Chamber, beyond these hallowed Halls to every household and to every foreign shore.
Our troops are listening, Mr. Speaker. They hear those who denigrate their mission. They hear those who rely on the false pillar of semantics, seeking to divide the American people.
Well, Mr. Speaker, our troops are listening tonight, and while talk is cheap, our vote is sacrosanct. So I call on my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to put their vote on the Record and put the rhetoric aside.
Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support the rule. Let us have this debate for the sake of our troops.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
The previous question was ordered.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Ms. SLAUGHTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.) Mr. Speaker, the speed with which the majority has sought to…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Ms. SLAUGHTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, the speed with which the majority has sought to challenge the frank and honest appraisal of the war in Iraq offered yesterday by my friend, the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha), proves that what he said resonated with the American people.
Over 60 percent of our Nation no longer believes that we are headed in the right direction in Iraq. When Mr. Murtha spoke yesterday, he spoke for the majority of our country. Concerns such as those voiced by Mr. Murtha are not a sign of weakness, nor are they the product of a failure of resolve or willingness to cower before adversity as many administration apologists have suggested.
Rather, they follow from a logical assessment of one of the most respected military affairs in international relations experts that we have in all of these United States, and that is exactly what has this congressional leadership and this White House so concerned.
That is why they have gone out of their way in the last 24 hours to attack the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha). It amounts to nothing more than another swift boat attack on an American hero.
After all, attacking those who have the temerity to challenge this White House is what Republicans in Congress do best. But they have chosen a formidable target in Jack Murtha.
Unlike our President, our Vice President, our Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of State or the vast, vast majority of the Members in this House, Jack Murtha knows combat. At the age of 34, he did not have to go and fight in Vietnam, but he did. He is a decorated veteran and an American hero at a time when many others were shirking any possibility of going to Vietnam.
He knows our troops and he cares for them deeply and he has regularly visited them in the hospitals. There he has seen their wounds. He has stood by them during their time of need and listened to their hopes and fears. He has been to Iraq and seen the state of the nation with his own eyes. He is a true patriot and wants only the success of the United States and the Iraqi people, and that is why he spoke with such passion yesterday.
Representative Murtha spoke for the American people when he said that the time has come for a change in direction, and everyone in this Chamber knows that because Jack Murtha is one of the most widely respected Members in this House. No matter the attack that this majority chooses to employ against those who would question them, the reality on the ground is obvious to all who wish to see it.
America's continued military occupation of that nation will not bring stability. Our forces are drawing fire, not suppressing it; and their presence on foreign soil is serving as a catalyst for all of those who wish to do us and Iraq harm. Insurgent attacks are on the rise, and more American and Iraqi lives are lost every single day. We can no longer continue on this failing path, unwavering with no end in sight.
We can no longer ask Americans and Iraqis to give up their lives for a goal which we are making less sustainable by the hour. We must chart a new course.
Mr. Murtha's redeployment plan comes from an experienced statesman and soldier who has and will continue to do whatever he thinks is best for this Nation.
I implore my colleagues across this aisle to realize that continued Republican attacks which seek to dismiss and to discredit the valuable critiques
of knowledgeable legislators, as well as the heartfelt will of the American people, will succeed in silencing neither. Nor will they change the reality on the ground in Iraq.
More Republican assaults will not hide the gross management and corruption which has plagued the administration's attempt to prosecute the war, and they will not mollify America's growing concerns over flawed intelligence, broken trust, subverted values, and shameful acts of torture, all forced by the hand of an administration that answers in half-truths and obfuscations.
These cynical and all-too-typical Republican attempts to silence dissension, stifle debate, and discredit those who would dare to hold them accountable will only serve to elevate the power of the message that Mr. Murtha is delivering to this government and to the American people and to our troops. The Republicans today by attacking him succeed only in betraying themselves.
The dramatic nature of their panicked response has clearly demonstrated how incredibly valued Mr. Murtha's judgement is to military experts at the Pentagon, to Members of Congress, and to the American intelligence community.
And the strangest thing that I shall ever see is the people who believed that they were rewriting Mr. Murtha's resolution. Mr. Murtha, with a reasoned withdrawal, had nothing even remotely like the resolution we are debating this evening, which is the Republican resolution written by the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter) which calls for the immediate withdrawal of the troops in Iraq.
I believe they have got some explaining to do.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Watt), the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Crowley).
(Mr. CROWLEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Kucinich).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Emanuel).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Jones).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Gene Green).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. George Miller).
(Mr. GEORGE MILLER of California asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer), the minority whip.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield the balance of my time to the minority leader the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi).
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
Mr. Speaker, I rise tonight to speak on behalf of the 42 members of the Congressional Black Caucus. By doing so, we wish to make clear positions the Congressional Black Caucus has consistently taken…
Mr. Speaker, I rise tonight to speak on behalf of the 42 members of the Congressional Black Caucus. By doing so, we wish to make clear positions the Congressional Black Caucus has consistently taken from before the time the war in Iraq commenced and to put those positions in the Record. Our votes tonight will not be misinterpreted or mischaracterized.
As early as July 27, 2005, the top United States commander in Iraq stated that a transition of U.S. troops from Iraq could begin as early as this spring. Iraq's interim Prime Minister echoed General Casey's sentiments and added that ``the time has arrived to plan a coordinated transition from American to Iraqi military control throughout the country.''
The members of the Congressional Black Caucus reaffirm our Statement of Principles as to War against Iraq, issued in October 2002, which I would place in the Record at this point.
Congressional Black Caucus Statement of Principles as to War Against
Iraq, October 2002
We oppose a unilateral, first-strike action by the United
States without a clearly demonstrated and imminent threat of
attack on the United States.
Only Congress has the authority to declare war.
Every conceivable diplomatic option must be exhausted.
A unilateral first strike would undermine the moral
authority of the United States, destabilize the Middle East
region and undermine the ability of our Nation to address
unmet domestic priorities.
Further, any post-strike plan for maintaining stability in
the region would be costly and require a long-term
commitment.
Mr. Speaker, we reaffirm our Further Statement of Principles as to President's Request for Appropriations for Efforts in Iraq issued in September 2003, which I ask to insert into the Record at this point.
Congressional Black Caucus Further Statement of Principles as to President's Request for Appropriations for Efforts in Iraq, September
2003
In October 2002, before the President made the decision to
proceed to war, the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) issued a
``Statement of Principles as to the War Against Iraq.''
In light of the President's request for $87 billion to
pursue continuing operations in Iraq, the CBC believes that
it is desirable to issue these Further Principles that will
guide our evaluation of the President's request for
additional funding:
1. We reaffirm our Statement of Principles issued in
October 2002 (copy attached).
2. Despite the President's failure to follow our original
Statement of Principles in his decisions leading to the war,
we express our full resolve to support and protect our troops
and their families.
3. The Administration should provide an accounting of all
funds expended to date that were previously appropriated by
the Congress, including details about all contracts for work
in or related to Iraq.
4. The President should provide sufficient details about
how the proposed funding will be spent to enable Congress and
its Committees to evaluate separately funding proposed for
the protection and maintenance of our troops and funding
proposed for rebuilding Iraq. Congress should vote on these
funding proposals separately.
5. The President should provide full details about how the
efforts will be paid for, including a full accounting of
Iraqi resources (recovered and anticipated) and how the
President proposes to use those resources to reduce or
reimburse the U.S. obligation.
6. The President should provide full details about the
future obligations of the United States (personnel, funding
and decision making) and about how responsibility and
authority for these obligations will be shared with the
United Nations and/or other nations going forward.
7. The Administration should provide to Congress full
details of information relied on by the President in his
decision to go to war.
8. The President should provide details of the criteria he
will expect to be met before bringing U.S. troops home and of
his exit strategy.
The members of the Congressional Black Caucus further urge President Bush to end the deployment of U.S. Armed Forces in Iraq expeditiously by submitting to Congress a detailed plan to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq and redeploy those forces at the earliest practicable date;
To accelerate the training of Iraqi security forces to prepare them to accept full responsibility for maintaining internal security in Iraq and transfer responsibility for internal security to the Iraqi Government;
To incorporate the United Nations and other international organizations in the transition and reconstruction process;
To pursue security and stability in Iraq through diplomatic and economic means;
To assure that there will be no permanent military bases in Iraq;
And to ensure full support of our military families and our veterans, particularly with respect to service benefits and health care.
Our vote tonight, our votes, 42 of us, will not be misinterpreted and not be mischaracterized. This is our position. We have submitted it for the Record. That is what we stand on, and that is what we say to this House and to the President of the United States of America.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. Let us make it clear that this is not a stunt. It is not an attack on an individual. It is a very legitimate question. Jack Murtha is a…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
Let us make it clear that this is not a stunt. It is not an attack on an individual. It is a very legitimate question. Jack Murtha is a distinguished veteran. He is a good friend. We have joined together on many more defense issues than we have been apart on, and he has got an excellent background in defense, and he has every right to take the position that he has taken. We are all masters of our own opinion and our own position, and he studied this issue, and that is his position.
The reason I think it is important for this House to speak now before we break for a couple of weeks is because the impression has gone out around the world, carried on international news agencies, U.S. news agencies to friends and foes alike. The impression has gone out that Congress is withdrawing its support of the mission in Iraq. And if we look at the Washington Post and look at the front page, that is precisely what we see. If we looked at the headline on CNN and many other of the electronic news media, that is what we see.
But more importantly, it is not just important as to what our allies think or what our adversaries think. The most important people on this stage are the people wearing the uniform of the United States. And people who are reading the media, watching the media, those 140,000 personnel presently stationed in Iraq are obviously getting an impression about the United States Congress and its position with respect to all of the publicity that has emanated not just from this body and statements that have gone out from this body but also from the other body that happened just a couple of days ago and the headline stories that emanated from that.
Now, all of us, and I can just say as the chairman of my committee, we have held lots of hearings, lots of briefings. We held full House briefings for every Member of the House, Democrat and Republican, where they could ask our intelligence officers, with no handlers from the White House present, every single question that they wanted to have answered. We have had full briefings on armor, on troop deployments, on operations. Everybody here is competent to answer this question: Should we terminate our deployment in Iraq?
Now, of all the issues that we have studied over the last year or so that we have been working on, this is certainly one that we all have a background in now. Nobody can complain now that they have been duped and therefore this is not a real question or a solid question or an important question to answer. So we are going to let every Member answer that, and I hope that the message that goes back to our troops in Iraq, and I know that the message that will go back to our troops in Iraq, is that we do not support a precipitous pullout from Iraq, and that will do more to restore their morale than anything else this Congress could do.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, I am going to vote against a precipitous termination of our deployment in Iraq.
But I am going to allow you to vote ``yes.''
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
And let me make this point: that the resolution is written in precisely the way that I think describes the essence of the publicity that has emanated from Washington, D.C. This is a message that has been sent to our troops; and if you look at the e-mails coming in, I think the question is well described, and I think that it manifests what a lot of people now think, especially uniformed people in the Iraq theater, and it is precisely the question before the House that the gentleman will have an absolute right to vote on; and I would hope that this is not Mr. Murtha's position. He will have a chance to vote ``no'' on it.
Mr. Speaker, let me just reiterate to my friend, he said this should not be about Mr. Murtha, and it is not about Mr. Murtha. It is about the message that has been sent around the world, as evidenced by e-mails coming back in from our troops now who think that the Congress is pulling the rug out from under the mission.
Announcement by the Speaker Pro Tempore
Mr. Speaker, let me answer my friend.
This is a letter from an army captain in Iraq. He says in this e- mail: ``I am a U.S. Army captain currently serving in Iraq, and I am shocked and appalled by Rep Murtha's call for an immediate withdrawal. Please, please, please convince your colleague to let us finish this critical job. He is correct that the deployments and service and casualties are hard on all of us. He is wrong about what is demoralizing to us. What is demoralizing is a Congress which no longer stands behind our mission.''
That is why we are offering this resolution. That is obviously the message that is going out to thousands of servicemen around the world.
Mr. Speaker, Americans can sleep well tonight because our soldiers are out there on the front line against terror making sure that we can do that. And we owe them a lot. We owe them our thanks. We…
Mr. Speaker, Americans can sleep well tonight because our soldiers are out there on the front line against terror making sure that we can do that. And we owe them a lot. We owe them our thanks. We owe them our appreciation. We owe them the necessary equipment to carry out their mission, to protect themselves while they are doing that, and we owe them our support. And it is important that we let them know without any doubt that we support them, that this Congress supports them. And that is why, in case there is any confusion about how we would like Members to vote on this resolution tonight, we want them to vote ``no.'' This is not a good resolution.
Incidentally, in case the Members have not noticed, Jack Murtha spent more time tonight speaking on the floor than he has in the last 20 years combined presenting the appropriations bills.
Jack and I have been friends for a long time, as he suggested, and we have worked together. He was my chairman for a long time. I have been his chairman for a long time. We work together for the best interest of our Nation and for those who protect our Nation. And he has received many accolades tonight and properly so.
Chairman Hunter, the chairman of the Armed Services Committee, also deserves accolades. He was willing to offer this resolution, which we all are going to vote against, I hope. Chairman Hunter was an airborne soldier in Vietnam, and he led a platoon of Rangers in Vietnam. Chairman Hunter deserves an awful lot of thanks and appreciation for the work that he did then and the work that he is doing tonight here on the floor.
Mr. Speaker, this is not about Jack Murtha tonight, and it is not about Duncan Hunter. This is about 296 of us who voted to support the President going into Iraq to fight terror, to fight Saddam Hussein and his vicious armies. Once you have committed to a war or to a battle, it is like some other things in life, once you are committed, you are committed, like it or not. And we got committed when we voted to send troops to Iraq.
Now, how do you get out of a commitment like that? Well, you can win. That is the preferred way. Or you can
lose. We do not like that. You could retreat, or you could surrender. I do not think we like either one of those two.
Or there is another way: we could negotiate our way out. But in a case of global terrorists, whom do you negotiate with? They hide. They sneak. Would you negotiate with Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, Al- Zarqawi? Whom do you negotiate with? You do not have anybody to negotiate with because they are pure and simple terrorists.
Mr. Speaker, there are many things that have been said tonight on both sides of the aisle that are very important. There has been a little bit of spin here and there, but that is not unusual for a legislative body like this. But, Mr. Speaker, there is no place, when we are dealing with the security of our Nation and the security of the American people, there is no place for politics on either side.
So tonight, Mr. Speaker, we need to send a strong message to our troops and to their families. For those families who are dealing with the loss of a loved one, for those families who are dealing with a seriously wounded soldier or marine who might be at Walter Reed Hospital or at Bethesda Hospital or at Landsthul in Germany, we need to let them know that we are here to support them.
In a few short days when we will be back to legislative business, there is another issue that we have to deal with, and I am going to take advantage of this extra minute to tell the Members what it is. Somebody in the Pentagon has ruled that if Jack Murtha and I go to hospital with my wife, Beverly, which we do on occasion, and she makes us empty our wallets to help a family that is struggling to meet their expenses, some regulation at the Pentagon says that is illegal, that is bribery. What can I bribe a wounded soldier to do? He has already done everything that he can do for me. So we need to change that.
So we need to change that. Chairman Hunter and I and Mr. Murtha and I have worked together with our counterparts in the Senate, and we intend to fix this on the first legislative or appropriations bills we have access to. So that is what this is about tonight, to let our soldiers win this war against terror not only in Iraq, but in Afghanistan and anywhere else that terrorists raise their ugly heads. This is not limited to Iraq. Iraq is one of the major battlefields. Afghanistan is one of the major battlefields.
My friends, we are in it for the long haul against the threat of terrorism, and it is important that we prevail and support those on the front line against terror and vote ``no'' tonight on this resolution that does not do any of what I just said.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the rule and in strong opposition to the underlying resolution. I too am a Vietnam veteran. I flew 116 combat missions in B-52s in Vietnam, and I was deeply troubled…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of the rule and in strong opposition to the underlying resolution.
I too am a Vietnam veteran. I flew 116 combat missions in B-52s in Vietnam, and I was deeply troubled to hear my colleague from Pennsylvania, a fellow Vietnam veteran, yesterday call for the immediate withdrawal of our troops from Iraq. It brought to my mind the outrage that I and so many of my fellow veterans felt so many years ago as a young Air Force officer in Vietnam when we would hear the politicians in Washington undermining the war effort for political purposes.
For the past few weeks, much of the criticism of the war in Iraq, Mr. Speaker, has been nothing more than an attempt to undermine our Commander in Chief. Unfortunately, this comes at the expense of our troops in the field. How do you think this call to immediately withdraw will affect our brave soldiers fighting on the ground overseas and their families at home awaiting their return?
I will just say it is demoralizing and insulting to them. It emboldens the terrorists.
We should not misrepresent the mission in Iraq. Our troops are not occupiers. They are liberators. They are there serving the cause of freedom and freedom is not free. It is costly.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the rule and opposition to the underlying resolution.
I am a Vietnam veteran. I flew 116 combat missions in B-52's in Vietnam. I was deeply troubled to hear my colleague from Pennsylvania, a fellow Vietnam veteran, yesterday call for our immediate withdrawal from Iraq.
It brought to mind the outrage I, and so many of my fellow veterans, felt so many years ago, as a young Air Force Officer in Vietnam, when we would hear the politicians in Washington undermining the war effort for political purposes.
For the past few weeks, much of the criticism of the war in Iraq, Mr. Speaker, has been nothing more than an attempt to undermine our Commander in Chief.
Unfortunately, this comes at the expense of our troops in the field.
How do you think this call to immediately withdraw will affect our brave soldiers fighting on the ground overseas and their families at home awaiting their return? It is demoralizing and insulting to them.
And what do you think such comments like those made yesterday do for our terrorist enemies in Iraq? It emboldens them and puts our troops at greater risk, Mr. Speaker.
How dare some of my colleagues on the left misrepresent our mission in Iraq. They call our troops occupiers rather than liberators, and it seems they're more interested in demonizing Bush than defeating terrorists and defending freedom.
History has some lessons to teach us. One is written in words on the mall. It says ``freedom is not free.''
While we respect those who disagree with us and who may even protest, we should always remember that our freedoms were not won with poster paint. They were won by the blood of patriots.
Winning and protecting freedom is costly. That's what our troops are doing in Iraq.
As a combat veteran who served in an unpopular conflict during another painful time in our history, I can tell you that our troops will always remember which politicians supported them, and which undermined their efforts.
Walking away from Iraq before the job is done would be surrendering Iraq to terrorism and an incredible insult to the many brave men and women who have sacrificed so much.
If the war against terrorism is lost, it will not be lost by our magnificent troops on the battlefield. It will be lost right here at home in the halls of Congress by politicians who lose their resolve.
I thank the gentleman for yielding me time. Mr. Speaker, I rise in favor of the rule and in strong opposition to the underlying resolution. Our mission in Iraq is clear: Peace through strength,…
I thank the gentleman for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in favor of the rule and in strong opposition to the underlying resolution. Our mission in Iraq is clear: Peace through strength, victory through resolve. Those who would have us retreat immediately have forgotten what appeasement does to the Islamic extremist madmen and murderers. Our goal in Iraq is honorable and wise. We must see this through to our victorious end. The choice is that simple, yet that important.
In his 2005 speech commemorating Veterans Day, President Bush affirmed that it is courage that liberated more than 50 million people from tyranny in the last century, and it is courage that will once again destroy the enemies of freedom.
As the stepmother of a proud Marine, Douglas Lehtinen, who, together with my future daughter-in-law Lindsay, is currently serving our Nation in Iraq, and as the wife of a decorated Vietnam veteran, I have witnessed this courage and this commitment to the mission of liberty.
In one of his e-mails from Iraq, Dougie asked that I remind the American people that it was not the United States who asked for this global struggle against Islamic extremists. It was the Islamic jihadists who targeted the free world and our Nation long before we entered Iraq. We cannot afford to yield the victory to the Islamic extremists by withdrawing now.
Dougie forwarded a piece to me just yesterday by Lieutenant General James T. Conway which best summarizes the opinion of many of our troops about the need to stay the course. Conway states: ``Our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines realize that the biggest threat to mission accomplishment depends on what their fellow Americans do. The insurgents realize full well that the only choice they have of defeating the U.S. military is to weaken the will of the American population.''
He adds, The insurgents in Iraq maim and kill the less protected Iraqis, but their real target is that portion of the American public that is shaped by the news media.
Let us heed the message from our men and women in our Armed Forces serving in Iraq. They are in the best position to assess what we need to do, and they are asking us not to pull out of Iraq at this juncture. Iraq is at one of the epicenters of the U.S. comprehensive strategy to fight terrorism worldwide.
Our ability to project major Armed Forces to the very heart of the Middle East provides the United States and our allies in the war against terrorism the ability to directly address the tactical and ideological challenges of Islamic extremists. Through the promotion of an incipient Iraqi democracy, we continue our concerted efforts to counter the root causes of Islamic extremists in the region. These radicals are fully cognizant that the emergence of a new and democratic Iraq will inevitably threaten their very survival because freedom threatens them. Democratic governments deny them the funds, the weapons, and the sanctuary that they need to survive. Democracy denies them the new recruits that they need.
As such, Mr. Speaker, we must continue to support the people of Iraq in their efforts to strengthen their emerging democracies whose pace of development has been astounding. In January, the people of Iraq turned out in droves to vote in their first free democratic elections. In October, they once again voted to approve their Constitution, and today they are busily preparing for elections in December that will continue Iraq in its transition from a brutal totalitarian state to a free democratic nation. It takes time. We will succeed.
Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose this resolution. I have been in this body 19 years, and I did not support setting artificial dates to remove our troops from Bosnia, Somalia, Kosovo, East Timor,…
Mr. Speaker, I rise to oppose this resolution. I have been in this body 19 years, and I did not support setting artificial dates to remove our troops from Bosnia, Somalia, Kosovo, East Timor, Macedonia and all the other times that we have deployed our troops.
In fact, even when we were told back in 1997, the year after we entered Bosnia, that our troops would be home by Christmas, I did not rise to bring them home. We were told in Christmas of 1998 they would be home and Christmas of 1999. The fact is we still have troops in the Balkans. They have been there 10 years, even though it was not part of the original plan.
Mr. Speaker, all of us support our troops, but I want to tell my colleagues, in my 19 years I learned a lesson of supporting the troops from the gentleman from Pennsylvania. He took me under his wing when I came here as a freshman 19 years ago. I have traveled with him around the world. I have seen his personal dedication to the men and women who serve.
Now, there are many others in this body on both sides of the aisle that we can say the same thing about, but I want to stand up as a Representative from the other side of Pennsylvania and tell the story of Jack Murtha who epitomizes what our military's all about. I wish I could say I have been to Landstuhl, a medical facility in Germany, as many times as Jack Murtha has been there.
I wish I could say that weekly I would go over to Walter Reed Hospital and meet with the troops as Jack Murtha has done week after week after week.
I wish I could say I have gone and held the hands of the wives and the children of the sailors at Bethesda as Jack Murtha has done.
Mr. Speaker, I wish I could say that I have done all that, but I cannot. Jack Murtha is one of a kind. He is an example for all of us in this body, and none of us should ever think of questioning his motives, his desires or support for our American troops.
Mr. Speaker, I also want to say I have been here 19 years. I have been here with Republican and Democrat Presidents. Yes, Jack Murtha's been there. He stood up when Bill Clinton tried to cut the funding for our troops, and he stood with us on some very tough votes. He stood up with us on the tough policy questions. He was with us on missile defense. He was with us when others in his party would not be with us on defense and security issues. On some very tough leadership spots Jack Murtha was there, and for the 5 years that President Bush has been President, I cannot count on my hands the number of times Jack Murtha has stood with our President in supporting our troops in supporting more money, in supporting the policies that give us the kind of capability that we need.
Mr. Speaker, we are in a sad state today. We are in a tough time with our troops. They are wondering what is going on back here. It is not about Jack Murtha trying to undermine anyone, just as I and others would not
have tried to do that in the other 40 deployments in the 19 years that I have been here, but it is wrong, Mr. Speaker, that a gentleman with the reputation and leadership of Jack Murtha should have to wait 5 months to get a response to a letter expressing his concerns to the administration. That is not right.
So, Mr. Speaker, I would hope we would all come together, and I would hope that our Commander in Chief would invite the good gentleman from Pennsylvania down to the White House to have a discussion about how we can move forward together to support the troops and win the day in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Mr. Speaker, I have great respect for Mr. Murtha and Mr. Hunter. And I am uncomfortable when Mr. Murtha talks about one political party rallying round something. I do not want Republicans or…
Mr. Speaker, I have great respect for Mr. Murtha and Mr. Hunter. And I am uncomfortable when Mr. Murtha talks about one political party rallying round something. I do not want Republicans or Democrats rallying around anything. You moved me when I was in my office and you talked about going to Arlington. All of us have been there; all of us have been to our Nation's cemeteries and seen the white crosses and Stars of David.
The gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Brown) and I were privileged to represent our country this past May, and I am sure Mr. Murtha has been there, standing on the cliffs of Normandy at Omaha. We gave the Memorial Day address representing our Nation. I was there with my 20- year-old son, and I could feel the envy of souls because I thought about what their last thoughts may have been. And then as I strained among these thousands of graves, if I permitted the eyes of my mind to have a vision I could actually see, if I permitted the ears of my heart to listen, I could hear.
And what did they say? They said, What we did on this day was worthy. You see, they came to a continent to free it from tyranny on that day. They came to a land where they had never been to fight for a people they had never met. Does that not yet sound familiar?
And we speak of the sacrifice of what we refer to as the greatest generation. How are we now yet defining ourselves when our men and women are faced with something very similar.
We should be here tonight talking of our strategy of victory, defined by our perseverance to an enduring freedom throughout the world. To discuss withdrawal from Iraq tonight before our mission is complete is the wrong strategy at the wrong time. Why? Because freedom is on the move.
We, the people of the United States, we are a great Nation with a great vision. We seek to preserve the blessings of liberty for our citizens and for all those around the world who recognize the God-given right of freedom.
Today our Nation is truly engaged in an epic struggle for freedom in Iraq. Whether you believe how we got there is true, the struggle among us is evident here tonight. What we do not want is what Mr. Hyde referred to as our enemies to take advantage of our weaknesses. The painful lessons, whether it was Vietnam or Lebanon or Somalia, North Korea, Iran, al Qaeda, they watch, and it is part of what they want to do to envelope our weakness.
You see, Clausewitz had it right. He said, The use of our military force is the instrumentality of a political decision. We then expect our military to act on the field of battle with great valor, courage and commitment. You see, they are an extension of us. And in return, our soldiers ask what of us? Loyalty. And they expect us to have the very same resolve that we expect of them; that in battle, they look at us and say, when it gets hard, when it gets tough, can you hang with us, Congress? That is a very pertinent question for a soldier to ask of us.
So I respect Mr. Murtha, but this is the wrong time for your resolution, sir.
Parliamentary Inquiry
Mr. Murtha, I apologize to you. I know you have a resolution. That is what I was referring to. I recognize we are debating Hunter, and I apologize to you, Mr. Murtha.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me time. In the rush to the floor, the resolution before us, any country lawyer across the country could say it is flawed in the way it is written.…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me time.
In the rush to the floor, the resolution before us, any country lawyer across the country could say it is flawed in the way it is written. It makes no reference whatsoever to the redeployment. It is a sad mistake when you rush to judgment to get something to the floor.
One thing that really concerns me a great deal is our friend, our colleague, the recipient of the Bronze Star, two Purple Hearts from Vietnam, the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) being attacked as he has.
I remember in 1978 Congressman Sonny Montgomery who led a group of us to Vietnam to bring back remains of those who had died in combat. I remember the reverence with which the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) treated those 14 coffins of his former colleagues who were killed in action in Vietnam.
I have seen in the 29 years I have been in Congress his supporting our troops, supporting under the Constitution our duty to raise and maintain those wonderful young people who protect our freedoms. He has a resolution. He introduced it. He represents the people of Pennsylvania.
I admire his assessment of the war. We disagree on the outcome. I have a proposal myself. I sent a letter to the President on October 20 setting forth, the only person that has set a formula, for three Iraqi brigades of level number one, one American brigade may be redeployed.
It is interesting to note that there has been no hearing on this resolution, no hearing on similar issues that are of utmost importance to our country. Now, though mistakes have been made, and they have, such as allowing the looting and disbanding the Iraqi Army rather than giving them a pick and shovel and a small paycheck, and as a result many of them became insurgents against the Americans, no one here as spoken of the success that is needed in Iraq.
If we are not successful, if the Iraqi military is not successful, Iraq will be a snake pit for terrorists, every bit as bad as the Taliban had in Afghanistan, and lo and behold the problems it may raise in stability for Jordan and Saudi Arabia. It is important that we have success.
But it is also important that we have fair and full debate. It is important that we have hearings in the Committee on Armed Services on issues such as this, which we have not had. Hearings yes, but not on the war issues as we need them discussed in a full hearing with proper witnesses as we can ask questions of them.
At least, Mr. Speaker, let me say that we have wonderful young people in uniform representing us in Iraq and Afghanistan and across the globe. I am so proud of them. I am so proud of what they do in bringing the fight to a successful conclusion.
And the issue of redeployment, whether I agree with the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) or not, and I do not, because my formula
I think is the best and I have had positive results in my home State with positive unsolicited newspaper articles saying that it was a good and reasonable method of redeployment, we must do our best to have success there and proper redeployment of our troops from Iraq.
Mr. Speaker, the troops in this country are going to be surprised to find out that the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee filed a resolution saying that it is the sense of the…
Mr. Speaker, the troops in this country are going to be surprised to find out that the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee filed a resolution saying that it is the sense of the House of Representatives, apparently as he sees it, that the deployment of the United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately. Apparently, the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee thinks that we should not have an orderly withdrawal of the troops, thinks that we should not provide for their safety and protection on the withdrawal, thinks that we should not do the things that Mr. Murtha suggested that we do.
It is either that, sir, or they are going to think that this is some sort of a trick, that you filed this so that we would have been looking at something that Mr. Murtha did not want us to look at. Because if you are concerned about what the message is that the troops are getting in Iraq, you would, in fact, have a full-fledged debate here so that Mr. Murtha and other Members of both parties could express clearly and succinctly what it is they believe ought to happen in terms of policy.
But that is not what we are seeing here. You should have a chance for Mr. Murtha to discuss his idea on protecting the troops when there is a redeployment or redeploying to over the horizon so that there will not be a spread of terrorism, of making sure that any redeployment is made with the protection and the safety of the troops. But I do not think that is what is going on here.
You talk about your respect for Mr. Murtha. You talk about his known knowledge for the military, and yet it is you, sir, who comes down here and says that the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee proposes that the House of Representatives put their statement and their resolve that we should deploy immediately from Iraq and not protect our troops, apparently, because it does not say that, and not provide for their safety, not provide for redeployment somewhere over the horizon so that we will be sure that terrorism does not spread there and we will be ready for any emergency.
If instead you want the troops to get the message that that is not what we want, then why did you not work with your delegation over there to make sure that Mr. Murtha's resolution could be proposed and debated and explained fully and then this country could have the benefit of a full discussion of where the policy is going, because this administration, apparently, has no clue and has no idea. They politicized the lead-up going into the area, and now you are politicizing how it is we are going to get this country back in order and out of there.
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Mr. Speaker, I do not understand it to ever be the habit of this institution for a Member on one side taking it upon himself to interpret the meaning of a resolution of a Member on the other side without giving that Member the courtesy and the respect of allowing them to put forward what the meaning and intention of their own resolution is. I think, sir, you are playing games.
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the rule, I call up the resolution (H. Res. 571) expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated…
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the rule, I call up the resolution (H. Res. 571) expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately, and ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
On October 15 of this year, 63 percent of Iraq's eligible voters stood in the suffocating heat for hours risking their lives to suicide bombers and guns. And why? Because they dared to vote.
Do we honor their bravery by abandoning them?
Nobody wants war. War has been truly described as hell. But at the same time, things are worth fighting for and even dying for. And among those things is precious freedom. Our own freedom was born in the crucible of a 9-year war to the sounds of muskets well described as the ``shots heard round the world.''
We can argue endlessly about the wisdom of getting into this war, but there should be no argument about how
this war should end. The consequences of our retreat have not been discussed here tonight, but they deserve consideration.
This debate has been a report card on Jack Murtha, and I give him an A-plus as a truly great American. But among his many fine qualities, infallibility is not one. And on Iraq I prefer my country not to retreat, not to run to the high grass.
I prefer the counsel of John McCain who said last week, ``If we leave Iraq prematurely, the jihadists will interpret the withdrawal as their great victory against our great power. Osama bin Laden and his followers believe that America is weak, unwilling to suffer casualties in battle. They drew this lesson from Lebanon in the 1980s and Somalia in the 1990s, and today they have their sights set squarely on Iraq.''
The recently released letter from Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's lieutenant, to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, draws out the implications.
The Zawahiri letter is predicated on the assumption that the United States will leave Iraq and that al Qaeda's real game begins as soon as we abandon the country.
In his missive, Zawahiri lays out a four-stage plan: establish a caliphate in Iraq, extend the ``jihad wave'' to the secular countries neighboring Iraq, clash with Israel, none of which shall commence until the completion of stage one: expel the Americans from Iraq.
Zawahiri observes that the collapse of American power in Vietnam ``and how they ran and left their agents,'' suggests that ``we must be ready starting now.''
We cannot let them start, now or ever.
We must stay in Iraq until the government there has a fully functioning security apparatus that can keep Zarqawi and his terrorists at bay and ultimately defeat them.
I prefer the counsel of another war hero, my personal hero, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Sam Johnson), who stands with the President, the Iraqi people, and freedom fighters everywhere.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter) for purposes of control.
Mr. Speaker, this is an issue that has a lot of passion; and when a lot of passion is embracing an issue, things are said that are very harsh and I think at times untrue. Earlier we heard that there…
Mr. Speaker, this is an issue that has a lot of passion; and when a lot of passion is embracing an issue, things are said that are very harsh and I think at times untrue.
Earlier we heard that there were quote/unquote dirty, nasty remarks against him, referring to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha). No one is saying that about the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha). The gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) has a great deal of respect on both sides of the aisle and across the Nation.
This resolution is very simple. It is expressing a sense of the House. It has three lines to it. It says: ``Resolved, that it is the sense of the House of Representatives that deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.''
We are in a war for the Free World, and I think part of what we have to do and understand is the enemy himself. Al Qaeda is not fighting for a religion. They are fighting for political power by using a religion. Their targets on Americans, Jews, secular Muslims, and other Islamists like Shiites and Sunni Muslims.
They have killed and maimed innocent men and women and children from many faiths and walks of life. Their goals are measured in steps that include Iraq and every country from Spain to the Philippines, all under one theocratic government.
They oppose the freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom to vote, women's rights, education for women, religious freedom. They oppose music, movies, even the right to choose your own clothing, your own education, even who gets to drive. They despise who we are and what we stand for as Americans. And it is spelled out on their Web sites, their videos, their cassette tapes. It is written in their material. It is on the laptops that we have captured, and it is undeniable.
Al Qaeda's goals are confirmed in a letter on July 9, 2005, from Ayman al-Zawahiri to Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi. Al-Zawahiri is the number two man in al Qaeda, the spiritual leader of Osama bin Laden, his advisor. Al-Zarqawi is al Qaeda's director of jihadist attacks. He has been in Iraq since before Operation Iraq Freedom.
In this letter from al-Zawahiri to al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda's director of jihadist attacks, al-Zawahiri says, We have four goals. The very first goal is to expel Americans from Iraq.
If this resolution were to pass today, it would be headline news on al Jazeera TV. They would declare victory in al Qaeda, and it would jeopardize every American across the face of the globe. We have to decide where this battle is going to take place. Is it going to be in Iraq where every American carries a gun, or will it be on the streets of New York and Washington, D.C.
I say we vote this resolution down for the safety of our troops and our citizens.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the misguided Hunter troop withdrawal resolution. How irresponsible this is. Instead, let me thank Congressman and Marine Jack Murtha. Thank you for your…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the misguided Hunter troop withdrawal resolution. How irresponsible this is.
Instead, let me thank Congressman and Marine Jack Murtha.
Thank you for your patriotism.
Thank you for your honorable discernment of duty . . . to America . . . to our troops . . . to the cause of victory and freedom in Iraq. Your judicious resolution deserves hearing by the American people, our troops and this House.
Yesterday, you stood high on this Hill. Your message reached the American people. And it reached our troops and their commanders. Unlike the Bush Administration, you have a plan for Iraq. Your plan is real. It says:
Within six months, redeploy our troops consistent with their safety.
Create a quick reaction force in the region.
Back that up with an over-the-horizon presence of Marines.
Push the diplomacy button hard to secure and stabilize Iraq.
You don't want America's soldiers to be viewed as the enemy of freedom. For indeed they are its champions.
You spoke the truth when you said our soldiers have been made the victims of freedom in a growing counterinsurgency movement inside Iraq caused by the Bush-Cheney Administration's bungling, misleading, distorting and propagandizing of this war.
You were right in letting the American people know that since Abu Gharib the Bush-Cheney Administration has lost U.S. moral authority in the Middle East. Since Abu Gharib, American casualties have doubled. Since last year, insurgent incidents have increased from about 150 per week to over 700 last year.
Yes, winning means winning the hearts and minds of the people, over there, not just here. Victory means political victory as well as military victory. Our military has done everything asked of them. Our diplomats have been missing in action. Our troops were not led to believe that their lives would be lost in a counterinsurgency movement. Our troops are trained to fight force on force. The challenge America faces in the Islamic and Arab world is being made worse every day by the Bush Administration's miscalculations and misreading of the enemy. Every day, we see the Bush Administration wins us fewer friends.
America will win when the people we are trying to liberate believe we are their friends, not their enemies. 80% of Iraqis are strongly opposed to the presence of coalition troops and nearly half of the Iraqi population believe attacks against American troops are justified. This is not a prescription for victory. The time for the Murtha Plan to begin is now.
Thank you Jack Murtha for placing your life in the line of fire for our troops and for freedom. Your resolution has a right to be heard and debated as a way forward to freedom.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey) for yielding me time. Mr. Speaker, I think this is a perfect time to talk about the very brave acts of our men and women who are serving…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey) for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, I think this is a perfect time to talk about the very brave acts of our men and women who are serving to defend this Nation. I recently led an armed services trip to Iraq. The very first person that I met looked me in the eye and he said to me, Ma'am, do not worry about me. He said, I know what I am doing. He said I know what the threat to this Nation is; and if I have anything to do with it, we will never have another attack on our Nation. He picked up his gear. He said, So do not worry. Just pray for me. And he walked away.
The thing that I brought back from that trip to Iraq, and I realized it immediately, is that these men and women are true heroes. They volunteered to serve in our military and many of them have volunteered to serve in Iraq because they understand the threat that faces this Nation if we were to fail. But what they want to know, Mr. Speaker, is what is America saying and what is America thinking?
They watch C-SPAN. They watch the words that you say. And I was proud to be able to be there in Iraq and tell them the stories of America, about true Americans who value what they are doing who are at Sea World and stand and clap and cheer, the marines that walked through the airport in Ireland on our way back and everyone stood and everyone clapped for those marines.
The reason we are on this floor today talking about this is because the other side has made this an issue; and for the last several months, all we have heard is that we need to bring our troops home.
I do not know if you have seen the letter that has come from a- Zawahiri to al-Zarqawi. One of the quotes in this letter is: ``Things may develop faster than we imagined. The aftermath of the collapse of American power in Vietnam and how they ran and left their agents is noteworthy.''
When the speaker of the Iraq General Assembly came to Washington about 6 weeks ago, four of us went to hear him; and he repeatedly said, there is no other option. When Members of this body went on January 30 to the first election in Iraq, there were two things that they said to our Members: one, you cannot have purple ink on your finger because you are not an Iraqi; and, two, do not abandon us.
Mr. Speaker, we are on the brink of a democracy and freedom in Iraq. If we were to cut and run like they expect us to do, then what is going to happen is the 2,000-plus Americans who have died and given their lives for freedom will be for naught.
Mr. Speaker, I hope that we defeat this resolution on the floor today and show those men and women that are watching us on TV that we support what they are doing.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time. Mr. Speaker, I must say, Scoop Jackson must be spinning in his grave. The late Democrat Senate leader would be shocked to see his party has…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, I must say, Scoop Jackson must be spinning in his grave. The late Democrat Senate leader would be shocked to see his party has now been taken over by Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan and the radical extremists on the left who do not like George Bush so much that now they are going to put danger to our troops by siding with the terrorists that it is time for an immediate pullout.
I plan to vote ``no'' on the Democrat resolution for immediate pullout. I think it is irresponsible, and it definitely sends the wrong message to our troops.
I represent the 3rd Infantry Division. I am proud to represent the 3rd Infantry Division. I know many of these soldiers. I have dealt with them. I have gone to their funerals. I have gone to their services, and I would like to quote what the leading General said, General Webster, yesterday, who is in charge of the 3rd Infantry, the troops on the ground, and I am proud to say is a friend of mine, and I am proud to say is an extremely thoughtful and patriotic, brave American. General Webster said, in response to the Democrat call for immediate withdrawal, ``Setting a date would mean that the 221 soldiers I've lost this year, that their lives would have been lost in vain.''
He continued to say that Iraq's armed factions would likely take a cue from a timetable for a U.S. withdrawal to lie low, gathering their strength and laying plans for renewed conflict as soon as Americans leave. In fact, the Democrat Party now seems to be taking their cue from France: Lose, leave and wait.
The Democrats seem to want to cut and run and dishonor the sacrifices of those who are doing such a great job already. The President has said, and as much as the Democrats hate sometimes, it appears, the President's policies, he said, ``Our strategy is to clear, hold, and build.''
What have we done is we have rounded up 116 al Qaeda rulers. A number of tips from the indigenous folks on the ground have risen from 442 in February
to 3,341 today. That is cooperation by the Iraqis themselves. We have trained 210,000 Iraqi security forces, and we have more than 20 operating bases that are ready that they are doing a good job of. We have rebuilt 3,404 schools, 304 water and sewer treatment facilities, 257 fire/police stations, and 149 health services. This is progress.
Mr. Speaker, they just overwhelmingly passed a resolution adopting a new Constitution October 15, and in December, they are going to have their own elections for their own government. That is progress. Do not cut and run. Stand firm with our troops.
Parliamentary Inquiry
Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield?
The gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) was a hero in Vietnam. The gentleman is a hero today. We know that the Bush administration deliberately misled the American public about nuclear weapons…
The gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) was a hero in Vietnam. The gentleman is a hero today.
We know that the Bush administration deliberately misled the American public about nuclear weapons in Iraq, about al Qaeda in Iraq. And now out here on the House floor, in a continuation of their deliberate misleading of the American public, they are refusing to have a debate on the Murtha resolution.
The gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha) has called for a debate on the redeployment of troops consistent with protecting their security and the security of our country and maintaining over the horizon forces to protect our country, to promote democracy and diplomacy that will protect our country.
What this group of Republicans, what the Bush-Cheney White House is doing today is a continuation of the perpetuation of the fraud on the American public. This is not the debate on the Murtha resolution. This is an attempt to undermine the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Murtha), to continue their attempt to undermine any critic of their administration rather than having a real debate on the war in Iraq that serves the American people, the American fighting men and women, and every single person in the world.
I have known Jack Murtha for nearly 30 years and I have enormous respect for his patriotism and his expertise on military matters.
I've heard Jack Murtha speak about what is going on in Iraq and about the adverse effect that this war is having on our troops and our Nation's security. I agree with him that it is time for us to start bringing our troops home, and I support his proposal to do so.
This is a war that was based on false and misleading intelligence from the Bush Administration about Iraqi nuclear weapons, and which has been bungled at almost every stage by incompetence and mismanagement on the part of the White House and the civilian leadership at the Pentagon. Our brave troops deserve better than to be asked to continue risking their lives for a mistake. At this point it has become clear that our troop presence in Iraq is making the situation over there worse, not better. The Iraqi people need to know that the U.S. is going to end its occupation of their country, and that they need to assume responsibility for their own security.
We should get our troops out of Iraq as soon as possible, consistent with ensuring their safety. Instead of continuing this diversion, which has only harmed America's international reputation, we should refocus our nation's energies on capturing Osama bin Laden and disrupting and destroying the Al Qaeda terrorist organization that was responsible for the September 11th attacks.
Mr. Speaker, in the last week, two Vietnam veterans, one Democrat, one Republican, one in the House, one in the Senate, came to the same conclusion: the present course is not succeeding and is not…
Mr. Speaker, in the last week, two Vietnam veterans, one Democrat, one Republican, one in the House, one in the Senate, came to the same conclusion: the present course is not succeeding and is not working. Both have different solutions and different recommendations. Senator Hagel has his. Congressman Murtha has his. Senator McCain has his. Congressman Skelton has his. But what all of them have in common is that the present course is not succeeding. Doing more of the same and expecting a different result is failing our troops and failing our country.
These policies and the policies the President has are not succeeding. But the reason each of these men has come forward with a recommendation is because all we are offered is more of the same. It is a policy void of leading us to a strategy of success and victory and departure. This is not a discussion about relitigating the past. It is a debate about how we succeed and exit, not about how we got in, but how we get out with victory.
Now, I would think that after a series of the last 2\1/2\ years, what we can be criticized for here in this House is not for raising questions but for not having raised questions. We have given the administration an appropriated $450 billion, everything they have asked for. They have gotten everything from this Congress. Our role is to appropriate. We have appropriated. What we have not done is ask the questions, and we deserve criticism for not having had oversight, not having asked questions. That is where the fault lies in this House, because we did not ask the questions.
What do we have? We appropriated $450 billion, 2,000 troops in Iraq, 200 or more in Afghanistan, 15,000 fellow citizens wounded, and we have a single Iraqi battalion to show for it?
We have a job to ask the questions in oversight. We abdicated our response. This is a course tonight to begin to ask and to begin debate because for 2\1/2\ years this Congress was silent in its role and the American people have asked us and demanded of us to speak up to the responsibility in our sworn oath and responsibilities.
Whether it is Kevlar vests; whether it is Humvees; whether it is the Secretary of Defense, who originally said only 75,000 troops were needed; whether it was the Deputy Secretary of Defense, who said this would be 7 days and a short war, our men and women deserve a policy of success and victory and exit so they can come home to their families. And tonight we are having, finally, some debate, but we also need an overture of our responsibility and some oversight of what goes on. After $450 billion, 2,000 American lives, we have a responsibility.
Mr. Speaker, the most profound issue that this Congress must consider is whether or not to declare and prosecute war, whether or not to send our Nation's sons and daughters into harm's way. A serious…
Mr. Speaker, the most profound issue that this Congress must consider is whether or not to declare and prosecute war, whether or not to send our Nation's sons and daughters into harm's way. A serious proposal has been made by the senior Member of this body, a Member who honorably served in the United States Marine Corps for nearly four decades, a Member who has served here for more than three decades, and a Member who has been one of our Nation's leaders on making our defenses the strongest they could be. That proposal raises legitimate and critical questions as to the prosecution of our Nation's war efforts in Iraq, efforts that I have always supported. It suggests an alternative course of action that deserves serious consideration and a full and fair debate. However, his proposal is not before us tonight. The Republican chairman of the Armed Services Committee offers a resolution to immediately withdraw our troops from Iraq. I don't support that. Mr. Hunter does not support it. He offers it to avoid serious consideration of the policy our country is pursuing and proposals for possible alternatives. The majority party's response seeks to deal with this issue in a way that trivializes our consideration of how to conduct this war effort in a manner best designed to attain success. As such, this resolution is beneath the dignity and responsibility of this institution and the Members of this body.
All of us have sworn to defend the Constitution and protect this Nation and the American people. All of us, all 435, support our troops. This resolution is unworthy of our responsibility to our men and women who are now serving our Nation and who are deployed in harm's way. Unfortunately, today's process mirrors, I say to you, the superficial consideration of serious policy issues in this Congress and demonstrates a continuing unwillingness to subject policy proposals to oversight and serious and thoughtful deliberation.
Mr. Speaker, I regret that I do not possess the eloquence or the vocabulary to express the magnitude of my contempt with which I view this shabby, petty political maneuver. Our responsibilities to our country and to our men and women in harm's way in the defense of freedom demands more of us. The majority leadership demonstrates today, I fear, its lack of respect for this institution and for its great responsibilities to our democracy. The American people will see this day's proceedings for what they are, the rankest of politics and the absence of a sense of shame.
I hope that we reject this rule and this resolution.
Bill Text
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[H. Res. 571 Committee Discharged House (CDH)]
109th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 571
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the
deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.
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IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
November 18, 2005
Mr. Hunter submitted the following resolution; which was referred to
the Committee on International Relations
November 18, 2005
The Committee on International Relations discharged; considered and
failed of adoption
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RESOLUTION
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the
deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated immediately.
Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that
the deployment of United States forces in Iraq be terminated
immediately.
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