Mr. President, we are at the point now where I believe we are going to hear from a number of Members who have submitted amendments and some who simply want to talk about the bill, some who want to…
Mr. President, we are at the point now where I believe we are going to hear from a number of Members who have submitted amendments and some who simply want to talk about the bill, some who want to talk about the formulas. We have had some requests for time. It is my understanding that we are going to have our vote at 5:30. It does mean we have limited time between now and then. Let me just make a comment or two about this and then ask--
Of course.
Mr. President, as I was saying, we do have a lot of people who want to be heard on this bill. I believe I have said several times this could very well be the most significant vote we will have this year. It is a vote that we actually had last year. Senator Jeffords and I worked for 3 years on this bill, along with Senator Bond and Senator Baucus. The four of us have been shepherding this bill. Now it looks as if we are very close to getting a bill.
Last year, our bill was funded at $318 billion. It was passed on to conference, and we lacked one signature of getting a conference report, so it did not happen. As a result, we are operating on our sixth extension. I know the occupant of the chair understands the significance of this. It means all the reforms we have in here, streamlining reforms, will not be a reality if we are not able to pass a bill, if we have to operate on a seventh extension. It means we are not going to have any help for the donee States. We will not have any help for the sparsely populated States. We are not going to be able to have the commission that is going to look into new ways of funding highways. We started off back in the Eisenhower administration. Since he started the national highways program, we have been funding them essentially the same way ever since, but this bill appoints a commission that is going to be creative and do a lot better job than we have done before.
The formula--you always find someone objecting to the formula. It takes into consideration about 10 different things: size of the State, density of the State, the donor status of the State--things that are very significant in order to be totally equitable. One of the factors is the highway fatalities in the State on a per capita basis. That has to tell you something. If one of the States has a lot more fatalities on the highway, it means they have greater needs. My State of Oklahoma has terrible bridges. We are ranked dead last. We were tied with the State of Missouri, but I think we are now last. We want to correct that. We want this bill. It is very important that we have this bill. We are going to have our vote tomorrow, and we want to hear from anyone down here.
I ask Senator Jeffords, did you want to make any comments at this time?
I don't see Senator Baucus. I ask Senator Bond, do you want to make any comments?
Senator Thomas.
Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Wyoming for an excellent point, and that point is we are on our sixth extension now. Some extensions are 30-day extensions, some of them are 6-month extensions, and you can't expect the contracting community out there to be able to plan in an efficient way to spend the money to build the highways, to build the
bridges, or repair the highways if they can't plan in advance. This would give us 5 more years on a 6-year authorization. It is absolutely imperative.
I say to my colleagues that we are now operating on the bill, so whoever seeks recognition can get recognition as he or she desires.
I don't believe we are yielding time.
Reserving the right to object, I don't want to object, but we have a short period of time until we have to go to the highway bill vote. We have a long list of people who want to speak on the highway bill. What I would ask of the Senator from Hawaii is that instead of his speaking for 15 minutes, he go ahead and start, and if anyone wants to seek recognition on the highway bill, they could do so.
Mr. President, we have several requests to speak prior to 4 o'clock and then more prior to 5:30 on the highway bill which is the regular order. So far, those speakers who want to speak in morning business have been kind enough to say that they would not mind being interrupted, if necessary, if someone came down to talk about the highway bill. I appreciate that and remind my colleagues that we don't have a lot of time between now and the vote at 5:30.
The Senator from Iowa, chairman of the Finance Committee, has a title under this bill. If you don't mind, I am sure there will be time.
Mr. President, I thank the Senator from North Dakota for his comments on the highway bill. It is very significant. It probably could very well be the most significant bill we will be voting on this year.
If I can get the attention of the Senator from North Dakota, I have had occasion to give four 1-hour China speeches on the floor of this Senate in response to the 2004 report to the Congress on the China Economic and Security Commission. I do not know whether the Senator from North Dakota has read that yet, but I am going to call that up with a resolution to implement the recommendations.
This is far more serious than even some of the issues the Senator from North Dakota mentioned in his excellent comments. If we look at how China is now using up the resources we are depending upon, if we go to any of the countries in Africa, such as Nigeria and the coast of Guinea where they have huge reserves, we find the Chinese are building huge stadiums, coliseums, and roads, and paying for it themselves to get the corner on those markets we will be dependent upon at some time. They are dealing with countries such as Iran and exchanging nuclear technology.
I have been deeply concerned about the Chinese, not just in what they have been able to do in terms of their nuclear capabilities, but also their conventional capabilities. It was in 1998 that GEN John Jumper came forth and said something that startled a lot of people, but we knew it all the time, and that is the Russians are now making a strike vehicle, an SU-30, that is better than our strike vehicles, the F-15 and F-16. And then we find out China has purchased, in one purchase, 240 of these vehicles. Their buildup of conventional forces and what they are doing economically to this country is very disturbing to me. It has to be addressed.
I hope the Senator from North Dakota will join us in trying to implement the recommendations of this 2004 study--it was 4 years in the making--of the security and economic problems we are facing today as a result of the Chinese buildup.
Mr. President, first, this Commission worked 4 years. They studied it from a security and economic standpoint. It was bipartisan and had every expert one can think of on the Commission. They came out with some very strong recommendations. I would hope the Senator from North Dakota and the Senator from South Carolina might want to expand what they are doing after reading the recommendations. Maybe we can join forces at a later date and have a resolution recommending the adoption of the recommendations of this Commission.
Mr. President, again, we are on the highway bill. Senator Jeffords, the ranking member of the EPW Committee, and I worked so well together on this. I have to say before he makes his comments, there are a lot of provisions in this bill that he likes better than I like, and there are provisions I like better than he likes. That is what it is, that is how we got to where we are today. It has been a great working relationship, and I anticipate we are going to be successful in getting this bill passed.
Mr. President, the Senator from Vermont brought up a very interesting point when he said this bill will save lives. We have a whole safety core in this bill. This was done in the Commerce Committee's portion of the bill. That is why when we have a very complicated formula, one of the factors in the formula is the fatality rate on a per-capita basis of the States because that is one indicator that there is a problem with surface transportation and a problem that can be corrected with this bill.
We had called this bill the SAFETEA bill because it has the safety provisions that will save lives. I can speak for my State of Oklahoma and many others that more than half the States are above this average in terms of fatalities. We need to do something about this. We cannot do it if we extend it.
I do not think people realize that if we do not pass this bill by tomorrow and get it to conference and back from conference prior to the termination of this sixth extension--and that is May 31--then we will have to get another extension. If we get another extension, we will be doing the same thing we have done over the last 2 years with extensions, and that is continue it as it was under the 7-year-old TEA- 21. There have been a lot of changes since then.
All those Senators representing donor States, such as my State of Oklahoma--I can remember when Oklahoma would only get back 75 percent of what they sent in, and now we have made improvements. The bill passed 7 years ago, TEA-21, brought up the minimum to 90.5 percent. If we had passed the bill we had last year at a higher funding level, that would have been 95 percent.
In other words, every donor State or every State would get back 95 percent of what they sent in. That would be better than the 90.5 today. At this reduced funded level, it will be about 92 percent.
The point is this: If we do not pass a bill, it is not going to happen. We are not going to have any relief for the donor States. The safety core program Senator Jeffords talked about--he is right, it is a life-or-death issue. If we do not pass this bill, people are going to die. People are going to die because we don't have any safety provisions in the extension so none of those would be adopted.
We have streamlining provisions. I think we all hear stories about how some of our antiquated rules, regulations, and statutes have made it almost impossible to get roads built and have made them cost something close to 15 percent more. We have streamlining provisions and reviews of this process in the bill, but if we don't pass the bill we will be operating under an extension, and that is not going to happen.
I mentioned earlier today this all started with President Eisenhower, actually Major Eisenhower, back in World War II when he realized he was unable to move troops and equipment around the United States to prosecute World War II as well as he should have been able to. So when he became President, he decided to have this National Highway System and we passed this bill. We have been operating the same way since then, almost 50 years now, raising money to pay for our infrastructure in America the same as we did 50 years ago.
We have done two things. First, we are giving the States the ability to be creative. I know a lot of people think no decision is a good decision if it is made in Washington. I have learned, after having been in State government and mayor of a city, that the closer you get to the people, the better the decision is and the more accurate it is. We recognize this. We allow the States not just to do things in general but also to come up with creative funding mechanisms, where they exercise the maximum of the private sector involvement in order to get these problems resolved.
In this bill we hope to pass, we even have a national commission to explore how to fund transportation in the future. This is something that will not happen if it is an extension. So we need to have this. That is why it is important.
We have the Safe Routes to School provision. I could probably name 20 different provisions of this very large bill, but this is one that several Members had a great passion for. I know several Members in the other body, as well as Senator Jeffords, were concerned about the Safe Routes to School provision. This is something that will save young people's lives, but if we do not do it and instead operate under an extension, we will not have that provision in there.
Anyone who has been in business and who has watched and waited, knows what you have to go through to get contracts, how you plan the financing, and that when you get the labor pool and your resources, in order to get the very most from them, you have to plan years in advance. The problem with the extension is it could be a 2-month extension or a 1-month extension or it could be 6 months. They are out there trying to address serious problems such as we have in Oklahoma with our bridges.
By the way, we have had several losses of life in my State of Oklahoma--two in the fairly recent past--due to bridges crumbling and killing people. So we need to correct this problem. We cannot do it unless we pass the bill.
A lot of the States are complaining right now, the border States-- California, Arizona, Florida, Texas--about the fact that, because of NAFTA, a lot of excess traffic is going through their States. We want to do something about that and we are doing it. We have a borders provision in this bill that gives them some of that relief. We will not be able to do that if we do not pass the bill. It is not going to work with an extension.
Right now we have chokepoints such as the canals we have in Oklahoma. People do not realize they are navigable. I remember many years ago when I was in the State senate, in order to try to get the point across to people that we have a navigable channel that goes all the way to my hometown of Tulsa, OK, or Catoosa, and in order to show this we managed to take a World War II submarine, the USS Batfish, from Texas, in the boneyard, and moved it all the way to Oklahoma, and it is sitting in Muskogee to tell that story.
The point is, if we have channel traffic activity, we have railroads, we have air, and we have surface, this provides chokepoints. We address the chokepoints as a major part of this bill.
The last and maybe most important thing is we have firewalls. When a person goes to the pump and pays Federal excise taxes when they buy a gallon of fuel, that person expects that money will go to improving highways and go to transportation. That is a no-brainer. That is what is supposed to happen. That is what we told the people is going to happen. But that is not what is happening. The insatiable appetite of members of an elected body to spend somebody else's money is something we have to deal with on a regular basis. So we have a trust fund and people pay money into the trust fund, but every time they have a chance to steal money out of the trust fund, they do.
What the Finance Committee tried to do, and I applaud them, they have put this together so they cannot do this that easily. For example, someone was complaining about the way this finance package is working. They said we have this program where we have hybrid cars so we give them financial advantages to encourage them so we can look out for the environment and save money on fuel and not aggravate the already existing energy shortage problem we have in America.
What do they do? They give them that money. But they take it out of the trust fund. It has nothing to do with
that. This is environmental policy, economic policy, but it is paid for by the trust fund. This is wrong.
In 1998, when President Clinton was President, he had a balanced budget amendment. He was going to balance the budget. But a lot of that money, $8 billion, was out of the trust fund to go toward the deficit. At that time I voted against it. All my conservative friends said, You want to do something about the deficit, don't you? But I said, Not on the back of the highway trust fund.
The point I want to make is there have been raids on the trust fund, and not just the highway trust fund but others. In this legislation we hope to pass tomorrow, we have firewalls built in so they can no longer raid the highway trust fund. If there is no other reason to pass this bill, this would be enough of a reason.
There will have been some complaints concerning our approach. There are two different basic approaches that one might take, putting together something such as the allocation of money that goes to the States. One is used in the other body. I served 8 years on the Transportation Committee in the House of Representatives. I know how that works over there. Frankly, it is more on projects than anything else. Not that there is anything wrong with that, except it would seem to me, and it seems to the majority of people in this body, better if you allocate on formula an amount of money then that goes back to the States and those States determine how to use it. In the State of Oklahoma we have eight transport districts, eight transportation commissioners. They sit down in a room. Certainly they know more about the needs in Oklahoma than we know here in Washington, DC. So we allocate the money in accordance with a lot of factors.
We have low-income States as a factor. If you are in a State such as Wyoming or Montana that has a low population density, yet you have to have roads to get across it, that is a consideration. If you have a high fatality rate, as we mentioned before, that is a consideration. We want to consider the number of interstate lane miles they have, the age of those, the traffic on those--all these things are factors that are in a formula. It might be politically a lot smarter to line up 60 Senators and say this is what we are going to do in your States and forget about all the rest of them and just do projects. We could do them. It is perfectly legal. We elected not to do that. We elected to do it the hard way with a complicated formula, and by the way, that is one nobody likes and that is probably a pretty good indication it is a pretty good formula. There are things I don't like. There are areas where I don't believe Oklahoma is being treated fairly. I am sure every one of the 100 Senators in this body can say the same thing.
We are still waiting now. We will be having a vote. We are 2 hours away from the vote. So we will wait for those to come down.
Amendment No. 706 to Amendment No. 605
On behalf of Senator Snowe, I ask unanimous consent to set aside the pending amendment and call up amendment 706.
I ask unanimous consent the reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I observe Senator Snowe is en route and unless someone else wants to gain access to the floor, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Let me reserve the right to object and ask the Senator if he would amend his unanimous consent to speak for up to 10 minutes as in morning business. However, if a Member comes with an amendment-- since the cutoff is 25 minutes away--the Senator agrees not to speak for more than a couple of minutes.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent, since we are right to the 4 o'clock deadline, that the managers' amendment proposed by myself and the ranking member be introduced at a time after 4 o'clock.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I also am going to thank staff. This was not easy. We have endured 3 years now. Ruth VanMark has been with me 18 years and has all of the background in the other body in the Transportation Committee. They will all be glad to get a good night's sleep at some time. We go from here into conference.
I suggest that we be aware that our 4 o'clock deadline has passed now. We have exempted the managers' amendment so it can be done at a later time. We are now down from 173 amendments to 7, so we have 7 to be voted on between now and tomorrow. At the conclusion of that, we will then vote on final passage and send it to conference. I hope leadership is working on both sides of the aisle to appointing conferees and that we can get it to conference and get it back.
I keep responding that I believe we can do this within the May 31 deadline and avoid an extension. We can show that things can happen in an expeditious way in the Senate, whether people believe it or not. If we get this passed tomorrow, we would have time to do it, if we are committed to making it a reality.
With that, I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I thank the senior Senator from Texas for her comments. I know the depth of her interest and the passion she has for doing everything she can for her State.
I have said several times on the floor of the Senate how difficult it is to come up with formula approaches. It is difficult. It is a tough thing to do. There are so many factors that go into it, such as the interstate lane miles, miles traveled, principal arteries, cost to repair and replace deficient highway bridges, weight nonattainment maintenance areas, low-population States, donor States, donee States, fast-growing States. Again, it would have been so much easier to do it the way it has been done before and the way we have done it, actually, in the other body just by making a political list, and when we get to the 60 votes saying: All right, that is it, the other 40 of you guys, it is your problem.
We try not to do that. There is not one State represented in this Senate that cannot complain about some parts of the formula. We have tried hard. When we passed the bill out of committee, starting in 2005 through 2009 in Texas, 90.5 percent was all the way to 2009, and then it was 92 percent. Now in 2006, 2007, 2008 at 91 percent and going to 92 percent.
Of course, the Senator is right that Texas is a very large State, so it represents very large amounts of money. But it is a half percent more in each of those 3 years of 2006, 2007, 2008. We have
tried to do it. We tried to work with each one of the States.
As I say, I know her depth of interest. We spent many hours trying to work out variances.
The problem we always have is nothing happens in a vacuum. If we take care of a problem in Texas, then that aggravates a problem in Pennsylvania.
So formulas are tough. They are tough to deal with politically. They are tough to deal with rationally. I think we have tried to do the very best we can. With that, I am glad to yield the floor.
It is a very reasonable request the Senator from Texas is making. I observe we talked about this ``above the line/below the line.'' We plowed this furrow several times. However, when you get in conference, there are things that can be done. I can assure the Senator the State of Texas will be well represented in conference. I am sure we will hear proposals, and there will be some give and take in all areas.
Of course, we will be dealing with another whole body over there, so it is hard to predict what will come out. But we will try to get to it expeditiously and see that Texas--as I say, they will be well represented. I think we all understand that.
We are now waiting. We are, as I said before, down to about seven amendments. There could be a germaneness problem with some of them. Some of them could be worked out. My guess is, other than the managers' amendment, which Senator Jeffords and I will be propounding, there are probably, realistically, maybe four votes that we will be having. That is my guess what it will be. We have announced already we are going to have one tonight at 5:30, which is just an hour and 6 minutes from now.
After that, we invite Senators to stay here and debate their amendments. I think we probably will not have votes until tomorrow morning. We can debate these amendments. I think by that time there may be as many as three or four amendments that would be appropriate for us to debate. Then we can get on to the final passage.
As it is right now, we have plenty of time tonight. We have another hour and 5 minutes before the vote. I am sure Senator Jeffords joins me in making this request: Members who are authors of these amendments, they know who they are, come down. We are open for business. Come down and debate your amendments.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President I will briefly talk about a provision in the Commerce title of the highway bill. We have the Commerce title, Banking, Finance, and EPW title. Section 7370 creates a hazardous material cooperative research program. It authorizes $2 million a year for each year, including 2006 through 2009, for hazardous material transport research projects on topics that are ``not adequately addressed by existing Federal private sector research programs.''
The section goes on to require that at least one of the studies ``provide an assessment of the need and feasibility of substituting less lethal substances than toxic inhalation hazards in the manufacturing process.''
I oppose the provision and hope it can be removed in conference. I will be actively opposing it in conference to see it is removed. There is no such language in the House portion.
The concept at the heart of this provision is called inherently safer technology and it is not about transportation but a longstanding wish of some of the environmental extremist communities. The EPW has spent the last 4 years working on the issue of chemical security and this issue of FIST has arisen several times in the context of the security debate. The idea of inherently safer technology predates September 11. It was around long before the tragedy of September 11. It has never been about security. It has never been about transportation. It is a concept that dates back more than a decade when the extremist environmental community--Greenpeace and others--was seeking bans on chlorine, the chemical used to purify our Nation's water. After September 11 they decided to play upon the fears of the Nation and repackage FIST as a solution to potential security problems. Now they seek to repackage it again as a transportation issue, which it is not.
This issue is not about security. It is not about transportation. It is about trying to find a research justification for giving the Federal Government authority to mandate that a private company change its manufacturing process or the chemicals they use. The study's parameters reveal this intent when it states ``substituting less lethal substances than toxic inhalation hazards in the manufacturing process.''
There are entire books written about the subject of FIST by various groups, including current efforts by the Center for Chemical Process Safety and the American Institute of Chemical Engineers to update their 1996 ``gold book'' on the subject. These are chemical process experts. The Federal Government is not.
I do not believe mandatory FIST is good for our Nation's security. Besides that, it is not a transportation issue. If it is something you want to debate in the Senate as a freestanding bill, do it that way, but do not sneak around behind and throw little a part into this bill through the Commerce title that has nothing to do with transportation.
I mention this and anything else we find in the bill that perhaps we have overlooked that has nothing to do with transportation, we will make every effort to make sure it gets out when it is in conference.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, the Senator from Louisiana is being modest because he has had a great deal of influence on the amendments. A critical problem in Louisiana is beach erosion. He has persuaded our committee, in an articulate way, to become much more aggressive in solving that problem. We are a much better committee because of him. I thank him for his hard work on the committee.
It is my understanding the senior Senator from Massachusetts wishes to speak.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I would like to give a progress report. We are down to four or five amendments now. Many of them have been agreed to or have been withdrawn. We don't have anyone at this moment who is going to ask for a vote tonight. We had previously scheduled a vote at 5:30. We did not anticipate at that time that we would be getting the cooperation we are getting from the Members who have worked things out. So I announce on behalf of the leadership that we will not be having the vote at 5:30 tonight.
Let me make a couple of comments. I know anxieties are high concerning the so-called nuclear option, or what we call the constitutional option. I hesitate to take up time. If anybody comes to talk about the highway bill, we will stop and talk about the highway bill.
If you stop and realize what we really want, what we have been asking for is a vote. People are entitled to have a vote on the floor of this Senate. They are nominees. You may not like the nominees of the President for the circuit court positions, but certainly these people at least deserve an up-or-down vote.
It is kind of interesting to see how the minority has changed its mind from just a short period ago.
Senator Biden on March 19, 1997, said:
But I also respectfully suggest that everyone who is
nominated ought to have a shot, to have a hearing and to have
a shot to be heard on the floor and have a vote on the floor
. . . It is totally appropriate for Republicans to reject
every single nominee if they want to. That is within their
right. But it is not, I will respectfully request, Madam
President, appropriate not to have hearings on them, not to
bring them to the floor and not to allow a vote . . .
Senator Boxer on May 14, 1997, said:
According to the U.S. Constitution, the President
nominates, and the Senate shall provide advice and consent.
It is not the role of the Senate to obstruct the process and
prevent numbers of highly qualified nominees from even being
given the opportunity for a vote on the Senate floor.
Senator Daschle on October 5, 1999, said:
I find it simply baffling that a Senator would vote against
even voting on a judicial nomination . . . We have a
constitutional outlet for antipathy against a judicial
nominee--a vote against that nominee.
Senator Durbin on September 28, 1998, said:
I think that responsibility requires us to act in a timely
fashion on nominees sent before us. The reason I oppose
cloture is I would like to see that the Senate shall also be
held to the responsibility of acting in a timely fashion. If,
after 150 days languishing in a committee there is no report
on an individual, the name should come to the floor. If,
after 150 days languishing on the Executive Calendar that
name has not been called for a vote, it should be. Vote the
person up or down. They are qualified or they are not.
Senator Feinstein on September 16, 1999, said:
A nominee is entitled to a vote. Vote them up; vote them
down . . . What this does to a [nominee's] life is, it leaves
them in limbo . . . It is our job to confirm these judges. If
we don't like them, we can vote against them. That is the
honest thing to do. If there are things in their background,
in their abilities that don't pass muster, vote no.
On October 4, 1999, she said:
Our institutional integrity requires an up-or-down vote.
And on May 19, 1997, Senator Feinstein said:
Mr. President, the time has come to act on these
nominations. I'm not asking for a rubber stamp; let's hold
hearings on those nominees who haven't had them, and vote on
all of them, up or down, yes or no.
Senator Kennedy on January 28, 1998, said:
The Constitution is clear that only individuals acceptable
to both the President and the Senate should be confirmed. The
President and the Senate do not always agree. But we should
resolve these disagreements by voting on these nominees--yes
or no.
And on February 3, 1998:
We owe it to Americans across the country to give these
nominees a vote. If our Republican colleagues don't like
them, vote against them. But give them a vote.
Senator Kohl on August 21, 1999, said:
[T]here are many other deserving nominees out there. Let's
not play favorites. These nominees, who have to put their
lives on hold waiting for us to act, deserve an `up or down'
vote.
Senator Lautenberg on June 21, 1995, said:
Talking about the fairness of the system and how it is
equitable for a minority to restrict the majority view, why
can we not have a straight up-or-down vote on this without
threats of filibuster? When it was Robert Bork or John Tower
or Clarence Thomas, even though there was strong opposition,
many Senators opposed them. The fact is that the votes were
held here, up or down.
Senator Leahy on June 21, 1995, said:
When President Bush nominated Clarence Thomas to the U.S.
Supreme Court, I was the first member of the Senate to
declare my opposition to his nomination. I did not believe
that Clarence Thomas was qualified to serve on the Court.
Even with strong reservations, I felt that Judge Thomas
deserved an up-or-down vote.
On October 14, 1997:
I cannot recall a judicial nomination being successfully
filibustered. I do recall earlier this year when the
Republican Chairman of the Judiciary Committee and I noted
how improper it would be to filibuster a judicial nomination.
October 22, 1997:
I hope we might reach a point where we as a Senate will
accept our responsibility and vote people up or vote them
down. Bring the names here. If we want to vote against them,
vote against them.
June 18, 1998:
If we want to vote against somebody, vote against them. I
respect that. State your reasons. I respect that. But don't
hold up a qualified judicial nominee . . . I have stated over
and over again on this floor . . . that I would object and
fight against any filibuster on a judge, whether it is
somebody I opposed or supported; that I felt the Senate
should do its duty. If we don't like somebody the President
nominates, vote him or her down.
September 16, 1999:
I . . . do not want to see the Senate go down a path where
a minority of the Senate is determining a judge's fate on
votes of 41 . . . [D]uring the Republican administrations I
rarely ever voted against a nomination by either President
Reagan or President Bush. There were a couple I did. I also
took the floor on occasion filibusters to hold them up and
believe that we should have a vote up or down.
Again on September 16, 1999:
I do not want to get having to invoke cloture on judicial
nominations. I think it is a bad precedent.
October 1, 1999:
Nominees deserve to be treated with dignity and dispatch,
not delayed for 2 and 3 years. We are talking about people
going to the Federal judiciary, a third independent branch of
Government. They are entitled to dignity and respect. They
are not entitled atomically for us to vote aye, but they are
entitled to a vote, aye or nay.
October 3, 1999:
When we hold a nominee up by not allowing them a vote and
not taking any action one way or the other, we are . . .
doing a terrible disservice to the man or woman to whom we do
this.
March 7, 2000:
The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court said:
``The Senate is surely
under no obligation to confirm any particular nominee, but
after the necessary time for inquiry it should vote him up or
vote him down.'' Which is exactly what I would like.
October 11, 2000:
I have said on the floor, although we are different
parties, I have agreed with Gov. George Bush, who has said
that in the Senate a nominee ought to get a [floor] vote, up
or down, within 60 days.
Senator Levin on June 21, 1995, said:
The President is entitled to his nominee, if a majority of
the Senate consent.
Senator Lincoln at a press conference on September 14, 2000, said:
If we want people to respect their government again, then
government must act respectably. It's my hope that we'll take
the necessary steps to give these men and these women
especially the up or down vote that they deserve.
Senator Reid on March 7, 2000, said:
Once they get out of committee, let's bring them here and
vote up or down on them. . . . I think anybody who has to
wait 4 years deserves an up-or-down vote.
. . . If there is a Senator who believes there is a problem
with any judge, whether it is the one we are going to vote on
at 5 o'clock or the two we are going to vote on tomorrow, or
Thursday, they have every right to come to talk at whatever
length they want. But with Judge Paez, it has been 4 years.
There has been ample opportunity to talk about this man. He
has bipartisan support.
On June 9, 2001, in an interview on Evans, Novak, Hunt, and Shields said:
[W]e should have up or down votes in the committee and on
the floor.
Senator Schumer on March 7, 2000, said:
The basic issue of holding up judgeships is the issue
before us, not the qualifications of judges, which we can
always debate. The problem is it takes so long for us to
debate those qualifications. It is an example of Government
not fulfilling its constitutional mandate because the
President nominates, and we are charged with voting on the
nominees.
. . . I also plead with my colleagues to move judges with
alacrity--vote them up or down. But this delay makes a
mockery of the Constitution, makes a mockery of the fact that
we are here working, and makes a mockery of the lives of very
sincere people who have put themselves forward to be judges
and then they hang out there in limbo.
These are people who are now saying they do not want to have a vote on these nominees. We have nominees who have been waiting not for weeks or months but for years. I believe some of these Senators who before had a philosophy that everyone is entitled to a vote ought to turn around and give the current nominees a vote. I have a great deal of respect for these people, except I would like to have them express some level of consistency.
The issue has become a bit clouded and confusing. When one talks about the various polls, I suggest that one can word a question to get almost any kind of answer one wants. When it gets down to the facts, the Constitution says the President nominates and the Senate is either to confirm or not confirm. It does not say anything about a mandatory supermajority. It just says confirmed. That is a simple majority, Mr. President.
Again, I invite Members to come to the Chamber. We are going to keep the floor open. There will not be any votes tonight on the amendments. We are down to about four amendments, although they should be debated tonight if at all possible. We need to get the debates behind us so we will be prepared to vote tomorrow morning.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, while we are waiting for Members to come down to the Senate floor to offer their amendments, to talk about their amendments, and be prepared for votes tomorrow morning, I will share with you that we have had a lot of erroneous reports concerning what is going on in Iraq and in other sensitive areas of the world. Quite frankly, I believe the greatest disservice that has been done to our troops in Iraq has been by the press, by the press not giving an accurate accounting as to what is really happening there.
I am a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and as such I have taken on the responsibility of spending time in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, and different places where terrorism may come due to the squeeze in the Middle East. But as far as Iraq is concerned, I will share a couple of experiences.
One was a couple days after the January 30 election. So many people in the media were trying to say the election is not going to come off on January 30, it is not going to happen; democracy is not going prevail there; they are not going to be able to make the deadlines; they are not going to be able to handle the elections and they are not capable of doing it on their own; they do not have the security because they would have to provide all the security for the elections. Yet a few days after that, you might remember, of the three elements over there, the Sunnis were the ones--not the Shiites or the Kurds--but the Sunnis were the ones wanting to obstruct the elections--the most anti- American of all the groups. Yet the day after the election, the two primary Sunni leaders stood and said publicly that they were surprised it went the way it did. They wanted to be in on this. They wanted to participate. We know subsequent to that they have.
I remember testimonials by different people who had participated in that election. One was a lady who said she could not read the ballot because of the tears in her eyes. She couldn't see the ballot.
Another person told me through a translator that she was in there to vote, and it occurred to her at the time they were voting that this was not just the first time in 35 years of a bloody regime of Saddam Hussein, but it was the first time in 7,000 years that they had an opportunity for self-determination.
It is a huge thing happening over there. Who would ever have dreamed at any time in the last 35 years that they would actually be participating in a free election?
Now we have seen what has happened since then. Sure, the terrorists over there who do not want this to happen are out there and they are killing as many of the Iraqis as possible to try to obstruct this new freedom that is coming their way.
The last time I was there, I decided it would be a good idea to spend time in the Sunni triangle. That is where most of the hostilities are. It was the Sunnis who were the ones holding out last, the ones who were supporting Saddam Hussein. I recall going to Falluja, just a matter of a few weeks ago, and in Falluja there was a general whose name was Mahdi. He was the general, the commanding officer of the brigade. He was the brigade commander for Saddam Hussein. He hated Americans and he had the background to demonstrate how deeply that hatred went, the murders and all these things going on.
Yet that general, after we moved the Marines into Falluja and they started going door to door, and they were embedded with the Iraqis, this general was so impressed with the Marines that he made a statement. When they rotated the Marines out and said the Marines were going to have to go into a rotation, they had become so close working and fighting together that when they all got together before the Marines left, he said they all cried. There was a general looking at me saying: We cried because we didn't want the Marines to leave. He renamed the security forces of Falluja the Iraqi Marines. He named them after us.
While we were there in Tikrit, the home of Saddam Hussein, there was an explosion. It was at a place they called a police station, but it was a training area where they were training Iraqis for the security forces. It killed 10 immediately and seriously injured 30 more so they could not be trained. The families of these 40 individuals who were either killed or were severely injured offered up another member of each of their families to substitute for the one who was killed or the one who was injured. It was the type of sacrifice you would never dream possible a few years before--a few days before, really.
I remember going all over the Sunni triangle in a Blackhawk helicopter, 100 feet off the ground. That is the only safe way to get there. There are terrorists who have SAMs, surface-to-air missiles, although some pretty crude.
Many American families who have sent care packages to the troops over there--candy, cookies, these different
things--what they have done with these is repackage them and, as we were going over the Sunni triangle and looked down at these small villages, all the kids were out there and we threw them candy and things like that, and they were waving American flags and cheering. This is not the picture you get from the media.
I applaud the job our guys and gals have done over there, our troops. Of course, many have lost their lives, but people don't stop to realize how many more lives would have been lost if we had not been involved in that area, offering that kind of freedom.
Now we see a lot of terrorists are going into other areas. One of the good things I would announce that is going on right now is down in Africa we are now in the process of assisting Africans in forming five African brigades, and these African brigades, we will put them in a position to help them train themselves so when something like this erupts down there it will not be the Americans who have to do it.
I just wanted to take this time to applaud our troops for the great job they are doing. I really believe, as great a disservice as the press has provided, that the people of America know better. They are showing they do know better.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the pending amendment be laid aside for the consideration of the managers' amendment.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that further reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I ask for adoption of the amendment.
Mr. President, I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I ask for the regular order with respect to the Dorgan amendment, No. 652.
Mr. President, I raise a point of order that the amendment is not germane.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the Ensign amendment No. 636 and the Schumer amendment No. 674 be withdrawn.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.