As I come to the floor tonight, the first week of December, standing here in the Nation's Capitol of the greatest Nation on Earth, today, and has ever been, I think about our constituents back home…
As I come to the floor tonight, the first week of December, standing here in the Nation's Capitol of the greatest Nation on Earth, today, and has ever been, I think about our constituents back home in the great State of New Jersey and across the country as well as they look to our Nation's Capitol and expect us to do the responsible things on their behalf and on the behalf of freedom and liberty around the world as well. And a portion of that responsibility, of course, is handling their hard-earned tax dollars as they send them to us here in Washington to administer this government and spending, some of which was just addressed by the other side of the aisle.
For the next hour, I would like to engage in a discussion of these issues and shed some light on them, perhaps pointing out some of the fallacies in some of the arguments that we just heard from the other side of the aisle on these points.
As we begin there, I think there is no place better to begin as to try to address some of those points that have been raised. So at this time I would be honored to have a fellow colleague join us at the floor right now. I yield the floor to Ms. Foxx.
Will the gentlelady yield?
I think the gentlelady makes an interesting but important point at the same time, in that if we see our role here in Congress as to satisfy every desire, wish, whim, and I am not saying education is a whim, but desires, wish, needs, as well of our constituency back at home, in your State and mine, then of course that wish list or the desire list or that need list would go on ad infinitum. Then we can become here, as one may say, as the 51st State, the 51st State legislature, trying to solve every single issue, whether it's building new schools, filling in potholes back at home on the street in front of someone's house, or any other minutia that is back in the States. Obviously, some of these things are quite vital to you and I and our constituents, but the question is where do those dollars and cents come from, where do the responsibilities lie? If we are going to assume at all, then I can tell you that this budget is going to balloon even further than where the Democrats already want the budget to balloon.
But it is, just as you said before, an issue of, and I will probably say it 22 more times before the night is over, an issue of setting priorities, and part of setting priorities is setting what are our responsibilities. So you hit the nail on the head when you begin to look at that, how do you set priorities, what is our responsibility. If we can just hone in on what our responsibility is and if we can get doing those things well first, then everything else comes in time.
I yield back.
I thank the gentlelady from North Carolina, and I do believe that the American public is paying attention; and they are doing better than that, they are reading between the lines. And they know when they are being talked to straight and honestly, just as you have been for the last few moments now setting forth what the record is with regard to what the Republicans' intentions have been and will be in the future with regard to getting the fiscal house in order of this country, and what the actual record has been for the last 11-plus, almost 12, months now, as we stand here under Democrat control.
Some of the numbers, I must say, that we talk about when we discuss this issue are quite large. It is really hard to get your hands around them, to get a handle on them. When you are talking about total spending in 2008 in the fiscal budget of $2.9 trillion, who can imagine that size number? When you are talking even a smaller number about an increase of $118 billion over 2007, $118 billion? We just can't relate to it.
What we have to all bring it right down to is the fact that this is the American public tax dollars at heart, and it does mean dollars and cents to people at home listening to us tonight, working all week long, paying their bills. It does mean something to the American family's budget, how the tax increases that have been proposed by the other side of the aisle are going to impact upon them and their lack of responsibility when it comes to the issue that curbing spending will have an impact upon them as well.
I am very pleased that I have been joined here tonight by another strong stalwart leader on this entire issue of fiscal responsibility. I have the pleasure of serving with him on several committees, but most importantly right now on the Budget Committee where he has been an outspoken critic of wanton expenses and spending, both now under Democratic control but also, too, when the Republicans controlled. So I would like to yield such time as he needs to the gentleman from Texas.
I again thank the gentleman from Texas for your work and for coming to the floor and for the points you make here.
You point out several significant points. One is the dichotomy between what has been said by the other side of the aisle, both before the election and now during the course of the year, and literally just moments ago before I came to the floor this hour as the Blue Dogs were on the floor speaking.
Let me take a moment to remind those here with us what was said by the other side when it comes to fiscal responsibility and their ability to get going rolling forward, because the gentleman from Texas made reference to the point we are likely to see an omnibus bill that none of us had an opportunity to consider, just as has been the case with other bills that have come to the floor.
Back on November 8, 2006, a little over a year ago, Democrat Speaker Pelosi said Democrats are prepared to govern and ready to lead.
Would that be true, whether she was prepared to govern and lead a year ago, here we are a year later, and we are still waiting for their appropriation bills to make the way through the process. Here we are in the second week in December, which means we are already, October, November, December, all those months, a quarter into the next fiscal year, and we are still waiting for those appropriation bills to make it through the House, Senate, and onto the President's desk. Were they really ready to lead a year ago if they can't get it done at this point in time? I guess not.
A year ago their Democrat caucus chairman, Mr. Clyburn, said Democrats offer a new direction which includes fiscal responsibility. If you just put the period after ``they offer a new direction,'' maybe that would be more telling. Their direction is deeper in debt for the country, and therefore for the American family's budget as well, because their solution is always increase taxes.
You might find that odd to think their solution is always to increase taxes if you simply listen to their rhetoric, because back in March of this year their majority leader said there are no tax increases in this budget, referring to the budget which came through the Budget Committee and eventually came to the floor of the House.
If there are no tax increases, why do we know that the tax increases are going up significantly, upwards to $400 billion on the American public because of the bills that the Democrat majority has put through?
I would point out to the gentleman from Texas that just prior to coming to the floor, the other side was speaking. It was the Blue Dog Democrats, and their solution, and you don't have to, as the gentlelady from North Carolina
says, read between the lines. Their solution to this issue of fiscal responsibility is only one-sided, and that is revenue, revenue enhancement, which is a nice way of saying tax increases.
How do we know that? The Record proves the case. The chart to my left shows the Republican minority attempted during various appropriation bills that were coming down to say that maybe the solution when your fiscal house is not in order is not always to raise taxes; maybe part of the solution is to rein in spending, something that every family has to do from time to time. When an American family has a problem with their budget and they are not able to make ends meet at the end of the month or week, what do they do? They usually have to rein in spending and set priorities. We suggested that. I know that the gentleman from Texas was part of this process as well to suggest perhaps what we should do is not make any draconian cuts, not say we are going to eliminate this program or that program, although some programs are certainly worthy of being eliminated. We had a much more modest proposal, and that was simply to say can we go for a 1-percent reduction in spending.
What was the Democrats' response to that? Well, on bill after bill after bill after bill, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven of the House appropriation bills proposed by the House Democrat majority, on each case we suggested can we afford a 1-percent across-the-board reduction to try to bring our House in fiscal responsibility.
I would definitely yield.
I appreciate that point. The gentleman is absolutely correct. It is not a reduction in overall spending so we can say today we are spending a dollar and tomorrow we would be spending 99 cents. In fact, today we are spending a dollar and we may be going up to $1.05, let's bring it down to $1.04-something as far as the actual spending. So the actual spending would still be going up, but we were suggesting going up on a slightly lower curve.
Democrats voting in favor of that modicum of fiscal responsibility. Well, we could get into single digits several times, with 10, 7, 11, 13, 11, 11, 11; only 11 votes out of that entire side of the aisle. I'm not sure where any of the Blue Dogs were on that one when they had the opportunity to rein in spending.
You know, I think if I recall correctly, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, the reason they said that they could not be supportive of being more fiscally responsible and support any measure was that we were not being compassionate enough. But the element of compassion in Washington, DC. apparently is measured by simply how much more money you throw at the problem. Whether or not that program is efficient, whether that program has been rated as being adequate and getting the job done, the measure of compassion in Washington is always whether or not you are throwing even more money than the party next to you is doing.
I guess it comes down to a very simply thing like this: at the end of the day they want to be able to go home to their kids or grandkids and say, well, we were more compassionate than those Republicans because we spent more money than they did on a particular problem.
I shall yield, yeah.
Just a quick two points, one on the compassion issue is perhaps it is appropriate when you're dealing with money to say that if I'm taking money out of my own pocket and deciding that I will spend this on a particular program, I can honestly say if I wish to be so boastful that I am being compassionate for that individual.
But we know that the Federal Government is in debt right now. We are involved in deficit spending, which means that we are not only spending more money than we are currently taking in from the current taxpayers in this country, but also we are going into debt borrowing as well. So where are we borrowing from?
Well, we are borrowing from the next generation. So in that hypothetical conversation that a Member from the other side of the aisle must have when they go back to their children and say, well, I was compassionate today because I decided to vote ``no'' on all these fiscally responsible measures that the Republicans propose as far as reining in the spending on this side. Well, the compassion that the father or mother Member would have to say to his child, I am being compassionate because I am simply basically giving you an additional debt on my children, and my children and your children will be obligated for all of these expenses.
Now, to the other point that you were raising as far as the letters and the phone calls that you get from your members or from your constituents who are concerned about what we are doing here and that they are on the brink of foreclosure, or brink of fiscal solvency in their own right, well, that's perfectly understandable, especially in light of all that has transpired over the last 11 months with regard to new taxes that have been proposed by this Democrat majority. And I'll just refer to the chart here for a moment. And if you care to speak on any of these, you're welcome to.
These are new majority proposals, new taxes at every turn. I digress. What was Senator Hillary Clinton's statement with regard as running as a Presidential candidate, which I believe she said something to the effect of, I have more ideas than this country can afford to spend dollars on, or something to that effect. Well, apparently the other side of the aisle, the Democrat side of the aisle, has the same idea, that they have more proposals, more bright ideas to spend on than we
have money in the bank nor does the American family have in their bank as well. But they're going to still go and try and spend them, and they're going to do it by raising taxes.
So what do we have here? One, two, three, four, five, about seven different new tax proposals. Fiscal year 2008 budget $392.5 billion tax increase. Of course the gentleman from Texas recalls that we saw that at the very beginning of this year in about March or April of this year when we saw at that time that was the largest tax increase in U.S. history. The largest tax increase. And where is that going to be on? It's going to be on the backs of American families.
Secondly, $15 billion in new energy taxes. Well, we just passed 2 weeks ago, or last week I guess it was, we passed the energy bill, and that's even in addition to that as far as the tax increases that will be on energy production in this country. $5.8 billion in new tobacco taxes, $7.5 billion, again these are all in billions. If you can't get your hands around it, those large numbers, but that's what we're talking about. $7.5 billion in new taxes in the farm bill. A nickel- per-gallon tax increase on gas for infrastructure. So if we're not already paying enough at the pump and, remember, that also was one of the promises that the gentlelady from North Carolina was referring to before, a whole list, before you came in a whole list of promises made by the new majority that they were going to do.
One of them was an energy policy to reduce the price of gasoline. I can tell you in my neck of the woods prices are higher now substantially than when the majority came in. Now they want to add a nickel tax on top of that. A 50 cent-per-gallon tax, increase on gas for global warming. So now you're up to 55 cents on gas.
New taxes on homeownership by ending mortgage deductions and a new tax on every American with a private health plan. And actually this list is an abbreviated list that can go even further than this as far as taxes on the American public.
And with that I'll yield to the gentleman.
And if the gentleman will yield.
The gentleman and I also, besides being on the Budget Committee, I also have the honor of serving with him on the Financial Services Committee. And one of the issues that we're dealing with right now of course is with the subprime situation, subprime situation as far as the tightening of the credit market of course and the decline of home prices that is probably going to continue for some period of time, peaking with regard to the resets sometime in February or March of next year. But most experts would agree that the price of homes in this country on average will be going down 3, 4, 5 percent; and this will continue during the course of 2008. And it's one of the reasons, as well, why we see consumer confidence beginning to erode, after a substantial period, a lengthy period of where consumer confidence was up.
So when you think about the economic situation of the American family right now, energy costs going through the roof. I heard a figure the other day, I think they said on average American homeowners are going to spend around $2,000 more this year just to heat their homes. There's 2,000 bucks more out of their wallets. That's in addition to more money out of their pockets for gasoline, going to and from work. And that's in addition to the fact that the values of the house in certain pockets of this country will be going down. Their financial situation for the American public is being constricted.
And what is the solution that we are hearing from the other side of the aisle while the family budget is being tightened like that?
Well, it's Uncle Sam reaching out and saying, can we have, Washington, have 2, $3,000 more so we can spend it down here on who knows what. And some of those who-knows-whats, you remember earlier on in this year, with all the pork spending that was coming from the other side of the aisle, you recall this discussion of some of the pork that was thrown into legislation, $50 million for wild blueberry subsidies, farm bill, $17 million for the National Sports program, $20 million for the National Writing Project, $6 million for unused plane tickets, $36,000 for Kentucky to protect bingo halls and on and on infinitum.
Anyone who listens to the gentleman from Texas or the gentleman from Arizona talk about earmarks will know about the wasteful spending that goes on here. But that's what's going to continue to go on so long as Washington is controlled by the other side of the aisle that says we can continue to spend without limitation because we are not setting those priorities. But we will be willing, the Democrats will be willing to reach out and take more money out of the family's pocket. So that really is the issue here at home.
And I always remember this expression from the gentleman from Texas: the focus has got to be on the family budget and not on the Washington budget. The other side of the aisle obviously has misplaced that axiom and has put the focus entirely on the Washington budget, as opposed to the Federal, the individual budget.
Again, if you were here earlier when the other side of the aisle was saying that their solutions to the fiscal dilemma that we're in right now and the problems need to be addressed in a fiscally responsible manner, never once during that entire hour discussion, and never once during any of our hearings that I can recall in the Budget Committee, have we heard from them the basic suggestion that the answer lies in the spending side of the equation as opposed to revenue.
In Washington, we really do have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. The revenue continues to come in at unprecedented rates, and that despite the fact that we had tax cuts going back as far as 2003, despite the fact that we lowered the tax rates for Americans so that they can keep more money in their pockets. The amount of revenue coming into Washington continues to go up, most times over the last several years, actually in the double-digit range year over year.
So it's not a revenue problem that we have experienced. It is a spending problem. I'm just waiting for the day that the other side of the aisle begins to realize that and will begin to work with us on some of these issues that you and I and others in the RSC as well have decided is the appropriate approach, reining in this budget as the family does.
And to get an idea, again, as to how that all plays out or actually where that all comes from, I gave you before a list, just a partial list of the tax increases that would be coming down the pike under the new Democrat majority.
Let's look at it as you would look at your own income tax return in a way. Part of the tax increases that you will see will go from the top to the bottom. So you can say compassion to either the richest or the poorest. The ordinary income tax at the top rates will be going up, 35 percent to 39.6 percent. Capital gains tax, which are not only for the rich, it's for our senior citizens as well who are relying on their retirement accounts, the annuities that they have put away during the course of their life, their pensions and the like which are invested, and now they're taking those funds out as far as capital gains. That's what they're living on on a fixed income. What do we see there with capital gains, 15 percent to 20 percent. That's a 5 percent increase, or actually a 30 percent increase over the 15 percent.
Dividends, likewise, increase 15 percent up to 39.6 percent, more than a double increase there.
Estate taxes. Well, estate tax, of course, is something we've debated on this floor for a long time, for the small farmer, for the small business person. Their taxes are going to go from 0 percent to 55 percent, basically making a lot of small farmers and little families when they sit down at the end of the year saying we may actually have to sell our business to hold on, and this is why.
Finally, for the lower income tax bracket, child tax credit from $1,000 to $500. Now, to people who actually really need that money, that extra $500 can be crucial. That could be a month's rent payment. That could be a food bill. That could be a car payment. They're reducing it from $1,000 down to $500.
And finally, the lowest income earners, the bottom income individuals and families in this country, they, too, will be bearing the brunt of the tax increases and the prolific spending that we see down here by seeing the lowest tax bracket go from 10 percent to 15 percent. Percentage-wise, of course, that's a 50 percent tax increase when you think about it, from 10 percent up to 15 percent, as far as a percentage increase.
So from the richest to the poorest will all be suffering, and the dollars and cents, as you make out, the gentleman from Texas, very well, comes out to how they pay their bills at the end of the month.
I yield back.
I thank the gentleman again.
You can see this sort of going on in a microcosm from the State that I'm from, the great State of New Jersey, where a poll was done a month or so ago I understand that said if you had the opportunity, would you leave the State, and 50 percent of the respondents said, yes, they would. If you look at the actual demographic numbers over the last year, between 72- or 76,000 New Jerseyans have left the State of New Jersey. One of the reasons why they indicate they've left the State is because taxes are so high. They cannot afford to live in that State. So the individuals leave, the families leave, businesses leave the State, which will cause obviously a death spiral, if you will, to the overall economy of the State of New Jersey if it's going to continue.
I'm sure the gentleman would like to have them. I would like them to stay in the State of New Jersey and just see that our fiscal house is set in order in the State of New Jersey, where the Democrats just raised the sales tax by a penny and corporate taxes as well, and property taxes continue to go through the roof.
But that's a microcosm of the United States of America as well. People are doing what Ronald Reagan once said, and that is they're voting with their feet and leaving the State. Businesses will be doing the exact same thing as we begin to see taxes go up across the board in the United States if those hard decisions are not being made of prioritization.
I believe we're getting near the end of our time here. I will extend a hand to the other side of the aisle, as we continue this debate during the course of the week, to the Blue Dogs or any other Members who came down to the floor during this night or other nights as well who are looking for fiscal responsibility. If we can come to an agreement that the answer is not raising taxes but, rather, reining in spending, I believe it was the RSC a year ago that came up with a list of, correct me if I'm wrong, approximately a half a billion dollars in savings in overall spending by the Federal Government. We'd be glad to share that information with the Democrat majority if they would just take even just less than 5 percent of that to rein in their spending to keep it under the control of where the American public would like to have it.