Mr. President, I also thank the Senator from Tennessee for all his labors and what he has been through. Quite frankly, I came back from the Horn of Africa and Afghanistan on Saturday or Sunday--…
Mr. President, I also thank the Senator from Tennessee for all his labors and what he has been through. Quite frankly, I came back from the Horn of Africa and Afghanistan on Saturday or Sunday-- anyway, over the weekend--and when I saw all this stuff coming up, I knew from my experience in the Senate that nothing was going to happen for a few days, so I did not stay and work hard like my friend from Tennessee. I went back to Oklahoma. I do that now and then just to talk to normal people, to hear what these people have to say, as opposed to the bureaucrats and the stuff we get in Washington.
In a way, it is a little bit humorous. We went through the $700 billion bailout. I can remember everybody talking about Secretary Paulson coming down and saying: The world is going to come to an end if we do not do this. He said: We are going to have to do it.
Well, we did some calculations, and I do not think most of the American people realize when we talk about these numbers--whether it is $14 billion or $700 billion--how much it really is. If you did your own math when this stuff comes up--this is what I always do--there are 139 million families in America who file tax returns. If you take the 139 million families and divide that number into $700 billion, that is $5,000 a family. Now we are talking about something that is serious. When I tell people in Oklahoma that, that gets their attention.
So here we are talking about $14 billion right now. Nobody seemed to care before, and we just passed that matter by a huge margin: 75 to 24. I was one of the 24 who voted against the $700 billion bailout. But we passed it by that huge margin, more than 2 to 1. It is something that is so much bigger than the $14 billion we are talking about now. We are making a big issue about the $14 billion. Where was all the concern and outrage when we were talking about $700 billion?
So we watched it come along, and we saw that we gave the Secretary of the Treasury all the money that he was asking for. Then we find out that as to what he was going to use the money for, it was not used for that at all. He said, and I heard it myself--everyone in here heard it: the Democrats heard it; the Republicans heard it--if we don't have this $700 billion to buy out troubled assets, this whole country is going to go down--this doom and gloom. Once he got it, he did not do it. He did not come to us and say: Well, there is a different plan now. We are going to use it in some other way because I don't think this is going to work.
So that got my attention. I decided at that time: Well, if they are going to go ahead and give him this $700 billion, let's see what there is in that law that we passed that might be to the benefit of people who are concerned about this issue. I saw that it was broken into two parts. The first $350 billion pretty much was given to him to use at his discretion, which he did. He did not come to us and say he was going to use it in a different way. He just went ahead and did it. It is the first time in the history of America that anything close to $350 billion was spent in such a way.
Then we have in the law that was passed a provision that says if he needs the other $350 billion, he can go ahead and do that, and if there is not an objection--as a matter of fact, if he does this, and does this when we are out of session, we would be helpless to try to do anything to stop it.
So I introduced a bill. It is S. 3683. It is not going to be considered. I am not a member of the club, so that is not going to come up, although we have made an effort and we actually have some Democrats on the bill. That is something that uses the rules that are out there and says we can change the second $350 billion so it will take a positive act of Congress to allow them to access the second $350 billion.
Now, let's quickly jump back to the current issue. I wanted to put that in perspective because when we talk about $14 billion, compared to $700 billion, I just wish there was that much outrage when we were making that commitment. So here we are talking about one unelected bureaucrat to be known as the car czar--get ready for the car czar. We have only had one good czar in the history of America that I know of, and that was Bill Bennett when he was the drug czar. However, he was not given a blank check to spend a whole bunch of money. He is just a brilliant guy who was going to try to stop some of the stupid things we were doing in this country. That was back in the 1980s when the drug problem first surfaced as a major problem. He did a great job. I draw him out as an exception when I talk about czars. Now we are talking about a car czar. This guy is going to have the same bureaucratic power that Secretary Paulson had during the time he pulled off this $700 billion bailout.
Now, this bill makes the U.S. Government, the taxpayers, part owners of these companies. This $14 billion bill is one that is going to surface probably today. People are talking about, and the leader talked about, maybe we will go all the way through the weekend if we do not get something done. But the instrument that came over from the House yesterday to the Senate is most likely what we are going to be considering, and it is one that makes the Government part owners of these companies.
The car czar does not have any specific instructions, such as renegotiating some of the union contracts and some of the things that will have to be done. I looked at this early on, and I thought, as undesirable as bankruptcy is, I do not know of any other way you can actually force the tough negotiations that will have to take place. It has to be management and labor. It is not just labor; it is not just management. There has been mismanagement. But they would have to satisfy the courts that we have a system that will work.
I read an article in the New York Times from the middle of November, and it was entitled ``A British Lesson on Auto Bailouts.'' It discussed the British treatment of the Leyland automobile in the 1970s and 1980s. The article reported that the British Government ultimately spent-- well, transferring this or putting this in U.S. dollars--they spent $16.5 billion--that is comparable to what we are talking about now--to bailout the British automobile company called Leyland.
The article quoted a top official from the Thatcher government, which reluctantly but ultimately backed the bailout. He said:
I'm not telling the U.S. what to do, but the lesson of the
British experience is don't throw good money after bad.
British Leyland carried on for a few more years, but they are
not there now, are they?
No, Mr. President, they are not. They are bankrupt after burning through the taxpayers' bailout dollars.
Now, why we now believe Government bailouts and Government ownership of shares of these companies is going to be a successful venture without a clear idea of what these companies would do to significantly alter their business models, and at least until well into next year--I do not
know why we think this because it has not happened. It has not happened successfully before.
In the New York Times, just a few days ago, Jeffrey Garten, who served as Under Secretary of Commerce during the Clinton administration, and who is now a professor at Yale University, was quoted as saying this:
We're at this moment in history, in which the Chinese are
touting that their system is better than ours with their mix
of capitalism and state control and our response, it looks
like, is to begin replicating what they've been doing.
Now, that is what he says we are doing: replicating now what the Chinese have been doing. I have to say this: I am very much concerned about the Chinese. I have spent quite a bit of time in Africa and other parts of the world. But in Africa, the Chinese, I think, pose the greatest threat to us. It is an economic threat as well as a military threat. But, nonetheless, does that mean we should be doing what they are doing? And we are replicating their system, according to Jeffrey Garten.
I cannot support Congress using taxpayer dollars to bail out yet another industry. I can remember when we were talking about this a few weeks ago with the $700 billion bailout. We were talking about this as if this were something that was going to be a one-shot deal. I said, standing on this Senate floor, that as soon as this goes through, they are going to start lining up.
I said: You are going to get not just the bankers, you are going to get the auto dealers and the airlines and everybody else out there saying, well, if this is what is out there, bail me out, too. I want to be bailed out.
So this is what is happening. We are now looking at one unelected bureaucrat administering a brandnew Government program with taxpayer dollars buying ownership in an industry. I think we have heard this one before. I know the American people have heard this before also.
This is exactly what Secretary Paulson did. I am talking about the massive $700 billion financial bailout legislation. Let's keep in mind, we are talking about an amount that is far less than that. We are talking about $14 billion.
I remember talking on the Senate floor when it looked as though we had $350 billion that was not going to be used. In fact, Secretary Paulson said--this was interesting--right before we went into recess, Secretary Paulson said: We have no intentions of using, no reason to use the other $350 billion. We have a reserve that we have not spent yet of about $15 billion.
I responded and said: Well, if you do not have any intentions of using it, let's go ahead and change the system so you cannot use it. I do not want to have us adjourn and find out: Oh, I think we will use another $350 billion, which is comparable to about $2,500 per family filing a tax return.
Well, the Congress gave Secretary Paulson the $700 billion in two installments, and we all know how that second installment is. I have authored two bills. One of them is S. 3683, sponsored by, of all people, Bernie Sanders, the one who is a self-proclaimed socialist, a guy who is on the opposite end of the philosophic specter from me. Yet he knows this is something that is wise: to have accountability for the $350 billion. I do not have her name on here, but I think Senator Mikulski might also have been on here because I was on the Senate floor with her, and she said it would be a good idea. We have Senators Barrasso, Wicker, DeMint, Roberts, and Vitter.
This legislation would freeze the unexpended expenditures of the original $350 billion and require an affirmative vote--is that asking too much--an affirmative vote to access the remaining $350 billion. It is automatic now. That is all we are asking for.
So I think that as we talk today--and, hopefully, this will be over tonight; I anticipate that it will because it goes on and on and on, and nobody, right before Christmas, wants to be working over the weekend when it looks like nothing meaningful is going to happen--let's bring it on, bring on the bill. Let's have a vote on it. Let's get it over with today, and, hopefully, we can reject it. think a lot of Members in this body, some of those who supported the $700 billion bailout, have a chance at redemption right now by opposing this legislation.
So, once again, let me just put it back in perspective. I came back from Afghanistan on the weekend and I saw the discussion take place, and I had an idea, through the experience I have on the Senate floor, that nothing was going to happen for the next 2 or 3 days, so I went back to Oklahoma and talked to real people.
By the way, I have to say this: I talked to a lot of dealers in Oklahoma about the idea of a car czar, and because of the prospect of a Washington bureaucrat telling the car manufacturers how to run their businesses and what kind of cars to make, it did not give them hope for the future. These people were opposed to it. I know a lot of the car dealers are for this. They are concerned about keeping the parts inventories and all of that, but I look at this, and I don't see any other way it can happen.
By the way, I would say concerning this bailout bill, I don't think they did anything to address the California waiver. This is something that has to be done if they are really sincere about this bill that came over from the House. Someone can correct me if they have corrected the problems of the California waiver; I don't think they have. Right now, there is litigation out there, where California wants to be able to determine what its tailpipe restrictions are. It is in the courts right now, but if they are successful, then that would mean we have 50 States that can determine what their emission requirements are in their State. You talk about one factor driving up the price of cars, that would be it.
Again, I don't know for sure what all is in this thing from the House, but I do know this: The basic bill is the same bill that we had before. It is based on a concept that the bureaucracy can run the free enterprise system better than the free enterprise system can, and it doesn't work. Let's solve the problem of the $14 billion, but let's get some people to join in with me on the Senate bill that will allow us to require an affirmative vote for the second $350 billion.
Let's put that in perspective: $350 billion as opposed to $14 billion. I think it deserves the attention of the Members of the Senate.
Mr. President, I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.