Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the subcommittee ranking member, the gentleman from Delaware (Mr. Castle). Mr. Chair, I rise in opposition to H.R. 2187 and yield myself such time…
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the subcommittee ranking member, the gentleman from Delaware (Mr. Castle).
Mr. Chair, I rise in opposition to H.R. 2187 and yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chair, there is a trend here that troubles me. Over the past few months, the Federal Government has stepped in to take control of more and more industries in America. So far these have included the banking industry, the auto industry, and the credit industry. And there is talk of the Federal Government becoming even more involved in other areas, too. These include the health care industry and possibly the student loan industry.
Today we are considering H.R. 2187, the 21st Century Green High- Performing School Facilities Act. This is a bill that would get the Federal Government involved in yet one more industry, school construction.
Little by little, the Federal Government is becoming more involved in people's lives than ever before--and that's just the start of this bill's concerns.
First, there's the cost. Based on the Congressional Budget Office estimates, it's predicted that this bill will cost taxpayers $40 billion--and that's just the start. And $40 billion may not seem like much in these days of multibillion-dollar bailouts and trillion-dollar Federal budgets, but all of this new spending pushes our country further and further into debt.
This week, the Obama administration estimated that the United States has a deficit of $1.84 trillion this year alone. When I came to Congress, the whole budget 16 years ago was $1.4 trillion. This year, the deficit alone will exceed that.
The national debt is now about $11 trillion--and growing. We could update it during the course of this debate because it's growing by the minute--and thanks to bills like this one.
We need to get the Federal budget under control. If we don't, the children we're trying to help today will spend the rest of their lives paying off our debts and deficits--instead of paying for their own dreams and destinies.
But this bill has other costs that go far beyond the balance sheet, if passed. This bill could divert important funding from the title I program for disadvantaged students and for those programs under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, or IDEA.
This is a serious blow, especially after the Obama administration's budget failed to increase support for these programs. In fact, under the administration's budget, IDEA is flat-funded, keeping the Federal share of excess costs at just 17 percent.
And, worse still, the title I basic grant is actually cut by $1.5 billion. The administration is redirecting those funds elsewhere, leaving 1,038 school districts--those that receive funds only under the basic grant--with less money next year than they have this year.
Republicans think we should meet our existing commitments to these two vital programs and maintain the Federal focus on programs that improve student achievement. States and local communities--not Federal bureaucrats--have the primary responsibility to set public policy over education. Federal law should reflect that.
And here's another cost problem. Like other Federal construction projects, this new program carries the burden of Davis-Bacon wage mandates from the Depression era. Davis-Bacon has been shown to drive up the cost of school construction projects between 22 percent and 26 percent when compared to similar projects completed under market conditions. That's money that could otherwise go toward putting additional teachers in the classrooms.
The Labor Department's own Inspector General has found these wage requirements to be flawed. They shortchange either taxpayers, workers-- or both.
That's not all. These wage mandates create regulatory hurdles that make it hard for smaller contractors, many owned by minorities and women, to win Federal contracts.
Mr. Chair, I cannot support this bill. I know that my friend and colleagues across the aisle are sincere in their efforts to improve the schools, as I am. I know there's a need for school construction and renovation. I also know that this must continue to be dealt with at the State and local level, where more than $144 billion has been spent to build, repair, and renovate schools just over the last 7 years.
This bill creates more problems than it solves. It costs too much, it borrows too much, and it controls too much. That troubles me and, I hope, other Members in this Chamber. I urge a ``no'' vote on this bill.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I'm happy at this time to yield 3 minutes to a member of the committee, the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Roe).
Mr. Chairman, I'm happy at this time to yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Culberson).
Mr. Chairman, may I inquire as to how much time we have left.
Maybe he could use up a little more of his time. I will reserve my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
I have been listening to all of the comments that have been made, and there are good, sound arguments on both sides of this issue. Nobody, I think, says that we shouldn't have the very, very best schools that we can send our children to. I think we talk about priorities and how we decide where the money comes from and how it should be done.
I have been here in Congress a little over 16 years, and I remember back in my first term a bill was proposed that was also very good. It was to put more cops on the street. I remember the mayor of Los Angeles calling me at the time and he said, If you'll vote for this and support it, just get it started, we'll carry it from then on.
I didn't vote for it. I didn't think that they would be able to carry it on, and that is what has happened. That bill was passed. It did good things, put more cops on the street, but the final where we are now is we have put more and more money into that each year. The Federal Government has become more and more involved in local law enforcement, and now we are to the point where we have even eliminated the local match. We have totally taken over the cops on the street, and the Federal Government now has increased year by year, and I can see this program doing the same thing.
I served for 9 years on a local school board and we always were looking for ways to get more money to cover our needs. There were always more needs than money available. I know we had problems with our long-term maintenance and we had to make some sacrifices. We had to make some adjustments so we could spend money for some long-term investment to build up our roofs on the schools so we wouldn't have them collapsing or the rain wouldn't be coming through.
And I know how people think. I know how human nature is, and I know, if I were still on that school board and this bill were passed and it became law, that I would be, you know, probably looking to the Federal Government to meet those needs and then using the local moneys for other things and turning more and more over to the Federal Government. That's just human nature. As I said, there were always more needs than money.
And so I see this program starting out at $40 billion and, as it grows over the years, ultimately taking that total responsibility off of the local school boards and looking to the Federal Government for all school construction, all school improvements. And even though it is a good thing, I think, by virtue of the Constitution and tradition, that is a local problem, not a Federal responsibility.
And the money all comes from the taxpayers. When it comes to the Federal Government, it seems like, at least in California, we send about 12 percent of the money here and 10 percent finds its way back. It would be better if we tried to keep our expenses down here, tried to cut spending, tried to get back within our means of how we live.
Some things have been said about how we really should be building better schools. I agree with that, but I don't think it is totally necessary when we think of Mr. Roe, Dr. Roe, who said he went to a two- room schoolhouse and seemed to get a good education. He is a physician. I think back to President Lincoln, who was taught by candlelight with a Bible how to read by his mother and had just a couple of years of formal education. I think we would all agree that Mr. Lincoln turned out all right.
So I think when we say that there is no way to educate our children unless we pump $40 billion more from the Federal Government into this program, that is the way to make it happen.
I have to say, as I said earlier, this bill costs too much, borrows too much, and controls too much. I urge my colleagues to oppose this bill.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to this amendment, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I object to this amendment for several reasons. It adds additional uses of funds, project priorities, and funding allocations.
While none of these on its own is particularly objectionable, on the whole we are making the bill more complex and deviating even further from what the Federal Government ought to be doing in education, and that's focusing on academics. But the most troubling element of this amendment is its unfair treatment of charter schools.
During our committee's markup of this bill, we endorsed, on a fully bipartisan basis, an amendment from the gentleman from Colorado, Representative Polis. His amendment ensured fair treatment for charter schools under this program. After all, if we are providing facilities funding for public schools, we ought to be providing it equitably for all public schools, and that includes charter schools.
Charter schools are public schools created by teachers, parents, and other members of the community to educate students and stimulate reform in the public school system. As public schools, they must serve students from all backgrounds and educational abilities. Unfortunately, the amendment we are debating weakens the equal protections for charter schools that were inserted on a bipartisan basis during our committee's vote.
The amendment empowers local school districts--some of them notoriously hostile towards charter schools--to determine what their charter schools' facilities needs are. If the district determines that a charter has no facilities needs, the money specifically set aside for charter schools reverts back to the local district.
We know that charter schools are desperately in need of facilities funding. On average, public charter school funding falls short of traditional public school funding by 22 percent. A primary cause of this inequity is that charter schools lack access to local and capital funding primarily due to the fact that charter schools cannot issue bonds to pay for school construction.
Charter schools drive innovation and reform. They have been championed by President Obama and Education Secretary Duncan. They were protected in this legislation by an amendment offered by a Member of the majority. This amendment undermines the bipartisan support for charter schools by putting their fair access to funds under this program in jeopardy.
I strongly urge my colleagues to oppose this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
This amendment will make it more difficult for charter schools, which, remember, are public schools held to higher standards for student academic achievement, to receive facilities funding under this bill. If taxpayers are being asked to renovate and repair public schools, at a minimum, we need to ensure fair treatment for all public schools.
I urge my colleagues to reject this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment made in order under the rule.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
There is a lot of talk about accountability in education, but what does that word really mean? At the Federal level, I think it means accountability to taxpayers to get what they're paying for.
We give tens of billions of dollars to States and school districts each year; with this bill, we are going to give them $40 billion more. But what are we getting in return? Federal elementary and secondary education policy places a few simple, but critical, requirements on schools in exchange for billions in taxpayer dollars. Schools have to assess student achievement and report to parents on how they're performing. In schools where children are being left behind, we require that they be given access to free tutoring or the right to transfer to a better performing public school.
We require equitable participation for private schools, recognizing that programs like title I, IDEA, and others were meant to benefit all students and teachers, not just those in the public school system.
In high school, we require schools to give military recruiters the same access given to colleges and career recruiters. And we call on schools to provide our Armed Forces with basic contact information for students, with the option for parents to opt out, so that students have a chance to learn about all options available for their future.
In exchange for billions in taxpayer dollars, I don't think it's too much to ask for schools to comply with these requirements. A bipartisan majority of Congress agreed when we reauthorized the elementary and secondary education programs in 2001 with the No Child Left Behind Act.
My amendment simply repeats the requirements already in place under the law if schools wish to tap into the additional $40 billion to renovate or build new facilities. It's about accountability to taxpayers.
I hope the majority will accept this amendment; and they may by arguing that every State and every school is already complying with the law. I wish that were true, but it's not. For example, according to data from the U.S. Department of Education, within the last year we have seen violations in the State of Illinois--from Chicago to Cicero to Aurora East--where districts are not offering the public school choice or free tutoring required under the law. We have seen similar violations in Mississippi, Oregon, New Mexico, and Colorado.
We also know there are school districts that openly flaunt their refusal to provide basic information and equal access to America's military, even though it is a requirement under the law. Representative Duncan Hunter recognized this problem, and he has introduced legislation to tighten the requirements under NCLB to ensure fair treatment of our military and fair access to information by students. But in the meantime, Congress needs to send a signal to schools that we're serious about accountability, we're serious about ensuring they comply with these basic requests--free tutoring, public school transfers, fair treatment of private schools, and access for military recruiters--in exchange for the billions we funnel their way each year.
I urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this amendment. It protects taxpayers, and even more importantly, it protects students.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
I want to thank the gentleman, Mr. Kildee, for his support of the amendment. I think it makes the bill better. And I also ask all of our colleagues to support this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I rise to claim time in opposition to this amendment.
I yield myself as much time as I may consume.
Mr. Chair, creating an advisory council to the Secretary of Education on green high-performing schools makes the government even bigger than it already is. Such a council would expand the Federal Government's role in school construction to unprecedented levels.
The Federal Government is big enough, thank you very much. Creating a new council dedicated to this purpose will only serve to expand and cement Federal interference in how school facilities are maintained.
The council also would help determine a key concept in successful education policy. The States and the local districts take the lead. The Federal Government offers limited but helpful support.
For these reasons, I oppose this amendment and urge my colleagues to vote ``no.''
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I yield myself the balance of the time.
You know, as I listen to some of this debate, it's like by the Federal Government providing money for the local government, it's free to the local people.
The Federal Government only gets the money from two places, taxing and borrowing, and it all comes eventually from the same people across the country.
I think that the Federal Government has been steadily consuming more taxpayer dollars and slowly taking control--actually not slowly, it's been quite rapidly in the last few months--over what used to be State or local decisions. Adding an advisory council for green schools does not help. In fact, it makes the problems worse.
Once again, I urge a no vote to help keep Federal growth under control.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim time in opposition, although I do not oppose the amendment.
I yield myself as much time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, this amendment would allow school districts to use sustainable domestic hardwood for projects approved under this program and would require districts to report when they have used renewable resources.
Schools should be able to use the products that work best for their projects, and domestic hardwood should be no exception.
While I am supporting the amendment, I do not believe an additional reporting requirement is necessary. The underlying bill already has several reporting requirements, and we're debating an amendment for an additional GAO report later today as well.
Each report adds costs to the district and the government, which means that is less money for the actual project.
I support knowing what our Federal dollars are being used for, but I do not think we need a mandate to report for every step in the process.
I yield back the balance of my time.
As the designee of Mr. Flake, I have an amendment at the desk.
Mr. Chairman, this amendment will prevent any funds appropriated under this act from being targeted to congressional earmarks.
This is a commonsense amendment that surely we can all agree on. Members should not see this program as a new pot of money for earmark projects in their district.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, this is a commonsense amendment that ensures our Federal dollars are not authorizing pet projects for our colleagues. I appreciate the gentleman from Arizona's offering it, and I urge its support.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition to the amendment, though I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, while there's debate on whether funding school construction is a proper role of the Federal Government, it's difficult to argue that any such program should not contain an educational component. I commend the gentlewoman for her amendment, and I would support that amendment and ask my colleagues to support that amendment.
Mr. Chairman, we are moving along a little quicker than we thought, and that's why Mr. Flake wasn't able to get here for his amendment, but he has arrived, and at this time I yield him such time as he may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I urge support of the gentlewoman's amendment, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition, although I do not oppose the amendment.
I ask that our colleagues support this amendment. While I do not support the underlying bill, I think this amendment makes the bill stronger. I appreciate the gentleman offering it, and I urge all our colleagues to support it.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, although I don't oppose the amendment.
Although I oppose the underlying bill because it spends too much, borrows too much, and takes too much control for the Federal Government, in fairness, if it's going to be done, this is a good amendment.
From brush fires in California to flooding in Iowa to tornados in Kansas, natural disasters like this take place all over the country, and this would be a good thing to help those local districts if, in fact, the money is going to be spent. For that purpose, I support the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim time in opposition to the amendment, although I do not oppose the amendment.
I support this amendment, I encourage our colleagues to support the amendment, and I reserve the balance of my time.
I continue to urge our colleagues to support this amendment. I appreciate the gentleman offering it, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to this amendment.
I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, again, Federal dollars are not free. They don't appear out of nowhere. They come from either taxing or borrowing. While, in all due respect, I understand what the gentleman is saying, but it probably is cheaper for his constituents to pass the hat or to have bake sales to raise the money than to pay for it out of their Federal tax dollars that get siphoned through Washington to get back to New Mexico.
Mr. Chair, we do not need to spend Federal dollars on upgrading swimming pools when this Nation is drowning in debt. Our deficit is soaring higher every day. Proposals like this send it even higher.
Recreational structures and physical education facilities are worthy tools that can promote good health among our children, but are they worthy of taxpayer dollars intended to improve academic achievement?
I urge a ``no'' vote on this amendment.
I reserve the balance of my time.
I yield myself the balance of my time. I ask my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this amendment. Federal interference in school facility maintenance is troubling enough, but at least there is some semblance of an academic focus in the underlying bill. But I cannot justify expanding that spending to recreation and physical education. I urge a ``no'' vote.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, let me remind the Chamber of a few numbers. A million seconds is 12 days. A billion seconds is 36 years. And a trillion seconds is over 36,000 years.
While we have been talking on this bill, our national debt has gone up $300 million.
A few other numbers. Forty billion dollars; $1.84 trillion; $11 trillion. That's the cost of this bill--the $40 billion; this year's deficit currently--$1.84 trillion; and our national debt--$11 trillion.
Every time we debate a new use of funds, we should think about these numbers.
Now I'm sure that many schools would enjoy a greenhouse or a nice garden or some new landscaping on their grounds. But when it comes to education, the job of the Federal Government is to help educate.
If there's an educational purpose for a greenhouse on school grounds, this bill already allows one to be built. But if these greenhouses and gardens are not academically needed, I do not believe the Federal Government ought to be building them--especially not with deficit spending.
I'm not asking my grandchildren to finance a greenhouse with no academic purpose, and I hope none of you will either.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
If there is a serious academic purpose for gardens and greenhouses, they can already be built under the far-reaching legislation in the underlying bill. Let's not dilute the Federal investment in education further by getting into the landscaping business. I urge a ``no'' vote on this amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, although I will not oppose the amendment.
This amendment will require the GAO to keep a list of projects that were funded through the bill and look at who has access to these projects. The underlying bill already contains lengthy reporting requirements that include much of this information, making this amendment largely unnecessary.
I do agree it will create jobs. There will be people hired that will have to fill out these reports and there will be people hired that will have to read these reports. However, if the gentleman is interested in getting additional information on the sort of projects funded under this act, we have no objection to having the GAO provide it, other than the fact it is going to cause government to grow even more.
I urge support of the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, would the gentleman yield?
I am interested in saving energy. I just think that this bill costs too much, borrows too much, and controls too much.
I thank the gentleman for yielding.