Mr. President, let me, first of all, commend our colleague from Michigan, who is a member of the Finance Committee and has been a stalwart defender of the traditional Medicare Program and of our…
Mr. President, let me, first of all, commend our colleague from Michigan, who is a member of the Finance Committee and has been a stalwart defender of the traditional Medicare Program and of our elderly not only in her State but around the country. She has offered, I think, some very cogent and worthwhile information this morning once again on this subject matter.
We keep going around and around in this debate. It is a little frustrating because we are talking about basically whether we are going to limit to some degree the profits of some private insurance companies that are under the rubric of something called Medicare Advantage. Again, these are private companies that are receiving subsidies, supported by Medicare beneficiaries and the taxpayers of this country. We are not talking about eliminating Medicare Advantage but rather--we had a big chart a few minutes ago. We will get it in a few minutes. It shows we are not eliminating the program, we are restraining profit growth in the program.
We are rewarding Medicare Advantage in the bill, as the chairman pointed out. Based on performance and quality, we actually give bonuses in Medicare Advantage--contrary to the arguments you have heard by those who are heralding Medicare Advantage, despite the fact that the very companies who argued for it to begin with, promised they were going to prove how they could reduce costs and be more efficient. In fact, today, it is quite the opposite. Right now the government pays these Medicare Advantage insurance companies $1.14 to do the same thing for seniors that Medicare does for $1. That is basically, on average, what it amounts to.
The question is, can we reduce the cost of the overpayments, which are basically ending up in the pockets of insurance companies? There is nothing wrong with profits in private companies, but let's declare them what they
are. This is not traditional Medicare. They are private companies that are anxious not only, I presume, to provide benefits to their beneficiaries, but they are also looking to make a profit. There is nothing wrong with that, but since the premiums were set by statute, and we have an obligation to try to keep our costs down, we are trying to do so because the promises that were made have not been kept. The costs are vastly exceeding the promises made.
The amendment we are going to hear about from our friends on the other side is nothing more than a recycled compilation of some of the ``greatest hits'' we have heard: stalling with arcane obstruction tactics, while standing up for some of the private companies--and I have no objection to standing up for private companies that do a good job, but when you do so at the expense of scaring seniors with baseless claims, then I do object. That is what is going on here because, quite frankly, today almost 80 percent of our elderly are paying $90 a year in additional premium costs, without getting any benefit from it whatsoever, to provide benefits under the Medicare Advantage Program. That is not equitable. The 80 percent of our elderly need to know that they are being disadvantaged by this.
What the Finance Committee, under the leadership of Max Baucus, is trying to do is bring some equity back into this. He pointed out--and it deserves being repeated--that nothing in the bill does away with Medicare Advantage. We are trying to get it back to a sense of reality and not, again, disadvantage 80 percent of our seniors.
Right now, there is Medicare ``disadvantage''--that is what it ought to be called, because that is what it does--disadvantages. Why should 80 percent of the elderly in this country pay higher premiums, with no benefits, at the expense of the 20 percent who are going to get some small advantage under this--but very little, because most of it ends up in profits. I will tell you why that happens in a minute.
To make my point, according to the Oppenheimer Capital analyst Carl McDonald, in a report issued a month ago:
Between 2006 and 2009, we estimate that Medicare Advantage
accounted for nearly 75 percent of the increase in gross
profits among the larger plans in the industry, highlighted
by an estimated gross profit increase of $1.9 billion in
2009, relative to commercial risk earnings gains of nearly
$600 million.
I know the chairman of the Finance Committee made that point. Seventy-five percent of the increase in gross profits came from the Medicare Advantage plans. These profits come out of the pockets of the American taxpayer because of the subsidies and, of course, the Medicare beneficiaries who are paying those extra dollars every year, without receiving any of the benefits at all. Our bill will protect and strengthen Medicare and extend the life of the trust fund, as you have heard over and over again. That is not a fact to dispute. That is a fact. We extend the life of the Medicare Program. Part of the way our bill adds to the use of Medicare is to eliminate wasteful overpayments. These are overpayments far beyond what was anticipated when the program was written.
As I mentioned a moment ago, the government pays insurance companies in the Medicare Advantage Program $1.14 to do the very same things for seniors that traditional Medicare does for $1. So those are the overpayments we are trying to rein in. There is no evidence these wasteful overpayments do anything to improve the care of our seniors. At the same time, they speed Medicare's descent into bankruptcy and raise premiums for all Medicare beneficiaries.
Our bill would end that waste and use the money we save to help seniors pay for prescription drugs by closing the doughnut hole. For the second time in less than a week, our friends on the other side are using these tactics to halt progress completely, fighting for these profits and overpayments that, again, come out of the hide of taxpayers and our elderly.
If you look at this chart, if you extend to 2019, almost 10 years from now, what is the difference between what our bill does and what those who want no change do? The difference is $20 billion. In the post-reform period, in 2019, it is $183 billion going to Medicare Advantage. What the opposition wants is to hold it at $204 billion in 2019. That is $20 billion. That is the savings we are looking for in order to reduce overpayments and provide those resources to the elderly so they can afford prescription drugs.
If you want to side with these companies--they are still going to make a profit. This will not deprive them of that. The profit margins will be far more realistic and it will reduce subsidies, as well as overpayments being made by the elderly who receive nothing from this program at all.
Let me make my case on this point. Senator Stabenow listed the guaranteed benefits under Medicare. The chairman did it as well. Also, we add benefits as a result of our bill. In addition to the inpatient hospital care, doctor office visits, lab tests, kidney dialysis, emergency care, occupational therapy, organ transplants--all of these issues--we also do things in our bill that are not available presently. We reduce the size of the Medicare doughnut hole. That is an added benefit that does not exist today. We reduce premiums to pay for drugs and medical care. We eliminate the copays. What an advantage that is here. Ask yourself whether you would like to eliminate copays or watch private companies make an additional $20 billion in 10 years. Which is the better choice? Ask the overwhelming majority of seniors which they would rather have--an elimination of the copays they are paying today, or continue to provide excess profits for the companies here that have made so much under the Medicare Advantage Program.
Lastly, of course, and most important, we help keep Medicare solvent. People say: Give me some examples on why the differences exist between Medicare and Medicare Advantage. I have a couple of examples from my home State that I think highlight the point. These come from the Center for Medicare Advocacy, or CMA, which is a nonprofit organization, as my colleagues know, that does casework on behalf of individuals who need assistance dealing with Medicare Advantage plans. They provided two cases from my State. I presume most of my colleagues could find cases in their own States.
A woman living in Madison, CT, a shoreline community in Connecticut, had Lou Gehrig's disease, ALS. We are all familiar with ALS. We know the stories people go through with that disease. She was in a Medicare Advantage plan. She was denied coverage for home health care because she was said to be ``stable.'' That was the quote, ``she was stable.'' That is not a valid reason for denial, and she was hardly stable with ALS. CMA, the Center for Medicare Advocacy, had to go to Federal court to get her care covered despite firm written support regarding her medical condition from her doctors.
Here is a woman under Medicare Advantage with ALS being declared by Medicare Advantage ``she was stable.'' Her doctors said anything but the case.
When my friends talk about rationing of care under the present system, here is Medicare Advantage, a private firm, making a medical decision that should have been made between her and her doctor. They eventually got it overturned, but they had to go to Federal court to get it overturned. That would not have happened under Medicare. If she had been under Medicare, she would have gotten that help, no questions asked.
When people say there is no distinction, this is a live case.
Let me give the second one. A woman from Vernon, CT, and her husband traveled to Florida to visit their daughter living there. When she got to Florida, she fell down and sustained some physical injuries. While being treated at a Florida hospital for her injuries, it was discovered that she had a brain tumor, the reason she had the fall. She had no idea of this beforehand.
The Medicare Advantage plan covered treatment for the fall as an emergency--which Medicare Advantage plans must cover, even out of network, by the way--but not any diagnosis or treatment for the brain tumor.
The woman had another daughter who was a nurse who lived in Utah. So they traveled from Florida to Utah where she went for the cancer treatment for the brain tumor. While undergoing chemotherapy, this woman had a
life-threatening reaction to one of the medications from which she almost died. The Medicare Advantage plan denied coverage for all of this care because it was out of network. She was in Utah. They said no, leaving the client and her husband with $100,000 in bills.
Again, the Center for Medicare Advocacy went to court and battled against this decision. They were successful in recovering $90,000 out of the $100,000. This woman is now deceased, but she and her family were left with over $10,000 in bills, all of which would have been covered under traditional Medicare, but she had gone into a Medicare Advantage plan. In both instances, they would have avoided having to go to Federal court, having to fight as hard as they did, going through the trauma and turmoil. It is bad enough you have to wrestle with cancer or wrestle with a brain tumor, but then you get saddled with $100,000 in bills and Medicare would have taken care of them. This Medicare Advantage Program disadvantaged her in the process.
These are examples of how private Medicare Advantage does not always operate in good faith. They are not always there when you need them.
There are significant differences between Medicare Advantage and Medicare. With traditional Medicare, you know what services you get.
I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record a list of services so people can read about it, if people have not already done that.
Mr. President, all medically necessary hospital care and doctor office visits are covered under Medicare. You know you can get these services from any Medicare provider anywhere in the country. Out of network you get this kind of help, whether you are in Utah, Florida, or Vernon, CT, where one woman was from. Medicare would have provided that care. Here she was bouncing around the country and denied one place after another under Medicare Advantage. With traditional Medicare, she would not have had to worry about a private insurance plan playing games with her coverage.
The Medicare Advantage plans run the show. They change the benefits. Cost sharing goes on. This is why Medicare Advantage is not like traditional Medicare. So when people say it is just like Medicare, no, it is not just like Medicare. If you doubt me, then call that family in Madison, CT, or call that woman's family from Vernon, CT. Ask them whether Medicare Advantage is just like Medicare. You will get an earful from them on what they went through.
We should be clear that we are not eliminating Medicare Advantage. Again, I appreciate Senator Baucus making this point. It needs to be made over and over again. We are not eliminating it at all. We are reducing payments to private plans and making the system work more uniformly. We actually give bonus payments for care coordination and quality improvements. These plans can use those payments to improve benefits for beneficiaries. So we are hardly eliminating it. We are making it work better.
I have serious reservations about how this plan operates, I will say that, but I would not advocate on the floor of the Senate the elimination of Medicare Advantage. I do want to make it work better, and I do want to cut back when we have overpayments occurring. I don't think it is fair that 80 percent of the seniors in my State or elsewhere are paying $90 a year extra to cover this program and get none of the help from it and people under Medicare Advantage, who could have been protected, are not because they opted to be in that plan and then found out it is anything but what they thought it was.
We are going to hear these arguments over and over about Medicare Advantage. A little truth in advertising is necessary here. So people understand, it is not Medicare and it is not an advantage, not under the present system, not at all. That is what we have been trying to say over and over again here so people understand.
This is a good bill. This is a solid bill. This took a tremendous amount of work in the Finance Committee, which had the responsibility of crafting these provisions which are highly complicated and very delicate in what they do. What we have done is preserve and strengthen our Medicare system, expanding benefits for people, eliminating copays, allowing those preventive and screening services to be available to our elderly, seeing to it they will have prescription drugs at lower costs. That is all in this bill. That is a great advantage.
What a tragedy it would be if in these next few days, after all the debate, that we lose all the work that has been done to make these improvements in our health care system.
I commend my colleague from Montana and my colleagues on the committee who worked so hard to put this bill together, this balance together that can make a great difference in people's lives.
I also thank our colleague from Rhode Island for offering his amendment, which we are going to be considering at some point when we get to vote occasionally on some matters here. I hope at some point we get to do that. We have done it a couple of times. There has been over a year of debate and discussion. I think the American people want to see some action.
We think we have a good bill. It is going to take on important market insurance reforms that ensure Americans can get access to health care promised by their insurance plans. It is going to make sure if someone loses his or her job, they can get insurance. It is going to improve the quality of health care and focus our system more on prevention and wellness.
On top of all these things, it is going to reduce the deficit. As we have heard over and over again, CBO is talking about saving $130 billion in the first 10 years and $650 billion in the second.
I have to say something. The other day we got the news that CBO said the premiums on the individual plans, the small business plans and the large business plans, are actually going to reduce premiums costs by as much as 20 percent in one area, and 3 percent in another. I would have thought there would be wild applause. Even those who oppose the bill would have said: Isn't this great news? What we got was almost a deep disappointment that CBO gave us a report that people are actually going to save money under this bill. All of a sudden they attack CBO because they did not like the results coming out of CBO. I guarantee had they come back and said they are going to increase premiums, we all would be talking about that. Here we get a report that actually we are going to save premium costs, reduce the costs to the Federal budget as has been pointed out.
Senator Whitehouse is going to offer an amendment that makes clear these savings we are talking about are used to strengthen Social Security, reduce the deficit, and contribute to the long-term solvency of the CLASS Act, that it will be for that purpose and that purpose alone.
The third part of his amendment is particularly important. Many of our colleagues have come to the floor in the last few days to claim the CLASS Act will be a long-term drain on the budget. It is not true. Thanks to our colleague from New Hampshire, Senator Gregg, the CLASS Act will be required by law to be solvent for 75 years. This was not in our original proposal. It was added in the HELP Committee markup by Senator Gregg, and I thank him for it.
The Gregg amendment was unanimously adopted in our markup. CBO says it produces $72 billion in savings for the Federal Government over the first 10 years of its existence and it will save nearly $2 billion for Medicaid.
We further added language to the bill to require the Secretary to maintain enough reserves after the first 10 years to pay off any claims that may emerge. We have included language to prevent
Federal appropriations from being used to pay benefits to ensure the program is self-funded.
Finally, at the request of several Senators, the distinguished majority leader made sure we did not use any of the savings in the CLASS Act for any other purpose than to pay for the CLASS Act itself. This amendment offered by Senator Whitehouse will give Senators a chance to commit themselves to that purpose. Senators who claim the CLASS Act will hurt the Federal budget, of course, should vote for this amendment because statutorily it will prohibit any of those funds from being used for any other purpose other than for the CLASS Act and the recipients who want to use them. I commend him for that move and thank him. When that vote occurs, I urge colleagues to vote for the Whitehouse amendment.
Lastly, I ask unanimous consent to be included as a cosponsor, along with my colleague from Maryland, Senator Mikulski, of Senator Coburn's amendment No. 2789 which adds Members of Congress to the public option.
Mr. President, we added that provision to the HELP Committee bill. Senator Coburn offered that amendment. Senator Kennedy, myself, and others voted for that Coburn amendment. I think it may have shocked the Senator from Oklahoma at the time that we actually voted for his amendment. I know Senator Brown has been added as a cosponsor. I have no objection to that amendment. That is how much I think the public option would be worth. If we have a public option in this plan-- and my hope is we will--there is nothing wrong with insisting Members of Congress be included in that public option proposal. His amendment suggests that. We supported it in committee, and I am prepared to support it again on the floor of the Senate.
I point out, I wish we could get Members as well who are reluctant to support this bill to recognize that as Members of Congress today, we all have pretty good health care plans under the Federal employees benefits package, some 23 options every year that are available to us, along with the 8 million Federal employees in this country under those plans. I wish we could get others to recognize how valuable that is to all of us and our fellow Federal employees. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the case.
I hope before this is concluded we will have far more support for this effort we have crafted and provided to our colleagues for their consideration.
Again I compliment the Finance Committee and my friend from Montana for the work he has done on this issue. It is very well thought out, very balanced and fair.
I said this over and over: I challenge any Member to come to the floor and identify a single guaranteed benefit under Medicare that is cut out under this bill. There is not one. Three days have gone by since I made the charge that not a single guaranteed benefit under Medicare is cut. You will not find one; not one.
I see my friend from Wyoming has come to the floor. I know I have probably gone over my time.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, a few moment ago I started to describe an amendment that will be offered by our colleague from Rhode Island, Senator Whitehouse, regarding the CLASS Act.
As a bit of background, the CLASS Act is a proposal that was originally conceived by a former colleague and dear friend, Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, years ago, the idea behind it being that we ought to try to figure out a way to support people in this country who end up with disabilities. Their disabilities are not so dramatic that they would deprive them of the opportunity to continue with work but serious enough that they would require some additional help in order to provide a basic standard-of-living, either a driver, some help on food assistance, whatever it may be.
Under present disability formulas, which are basically income- replacement bills, in order to get some help if you are disabled, you almost have to impoverish yourself to qualify and then be restrained about how much you can actually earn, if you want to continue to work. So while it has been a good program and certainly has helped a lot of people, in a sense there are catch-22s in it, that to qualify for it, you have to divest whatever you have acquired or earned and impoverish yourself. Then, even though you may be capable of continuing to work, you are limited on how much you can actually earn under those programs.
It was the vision of Senator Kennedy years ago to try to come up with a different idea, not to replace that but an idea that might allow for people who are disabled to get some help during that period of disability, however long it might last, without necessarily having to then impoverish themselves or to limit their outside earnings, given the fact that they may be able to continue to perform and, in fact, would like to continue to work.
The question was, how could we do this, particularly in light of the fact that we don't want to necessarily be adding a cost to taxpayers. It was his idea to come up with a totally voluntary program that individuals would have to contribute to out of their own pocketbooks, not out of taxpayers pocketbooks, by putting aside resources on a monthly basis over a period of years--5 in the case of this bill--where the plan would become vested and then to contribute that amount thereafter. Then, in such case if you found yourself disabled--and there are criteria that would determine whether you met those thresholds--you would then qualify, based on the fact that you have paid your own money into this program continuously, without exception, to receive at least about $75 a day, providing assistance to you so that you might get along and be able to continue to operate without having to impoverish yourself and put limitations on your work. At $75 a day, that would provide over $27,000 a year for those individuals who meet it. Again, entirely voluntary, your money, not public money--no taxpayer money goes into the plan.
Five million people under the age of 65 living in the community have long-term care needs, and there are over 70,000 workers with severe disabilities in the Nation today who need daily assistance to maintain their jobs and their independence. Long-term care supports and services are an area that is not currently affordable or accessible for millions of our fellow citizens. It is estimated that 65 percent of all those who are 65 or over today will spend some time at home in need of long- term care services, for which average costs run at least $18,000 a year.
Mr. President, 1\1/2\ million people today are in nursing homes, and roughly 9 million of our fellow elderly Americans will need help with activities of daily living during the current year. By the year 2030, that number will increase to 14 million, as we watch the baby boom population age. And while those lives will be extended and hopefully the quality improved, we all accept the notion that as we get older, we have greater needs physically. That certainly is something anyone over the age of 65 can tell you. So as the years progress, the quality of care, longevity tables increase, the number of people who will need some form of services or another will jump from 9 million today to roughly 14 million. Those numbers are apt to increase.
Many people who need long-term services and supports rely on unpaid family and friends to provide that care. They have children or grandchildren who are around to provide that kind of assistance. A lot can't, of course. But ultimately many of these individuals have to impoverish themselves to qualify for Medicaid. We know what happens. They transfer the house, their assets. They shove everything over to their children or someplace else so that they qualify for that title XIX window. They become desperately poor, so they can then qualify for Medicaid, which remains the primary payer for these services. The CLASS Act is designed to avoid that, if we can, in as many cases as possible by providing a lifetime cash benefit--voluntary, totally paid for by the beneficiaries--that offers seniors and people with disabilities some protection against the cost of paying for long-term care services and supports and helps them obtain services and supports that will enable them to remain in their homes, reside in their communities, and, in many cases, continue to work.
Let me tell you how the program works. The program is a totally voluntary, self-funded insurance program with enrollment for people who are currently employed. Affordable premiums will be paid through payroll deduction, if the individual's employer decides to participate. It is totally voluntary, nothing required whatsoever. If the employer does not want to participate, the employee would have to find some other way. If the employer decides to allow a payroll deduction, they can do that. Participation by workers, again, is entirely voluntary. Self-employed people or those whose employers do not offer the benefit will also be able to join this program through a government payment mechanism.
Individuals qualify to receive benefits when they need help with certain activities of daily living and they have paid premiums for at least 5 years and have worked for at least 3 of those 5 years. Beneficiaries receive lifetime cash benefits based on the degree of impairment, expected to average roughly $75 a day or roughly $27,000 a year. Benefits can be used to maintain independence at home or in the community and should be sufficient to cover typical costs of home care services or adult daycare. Benefits can also be used to offset the cost of assisted living and nursing home care.
Let me tell you how the improved version of this act protects the taxpayer. There have been issues raised about how they are going to be protected under this program. All CLASS Act benefits are paid by voluntary participants, not taxpayers. The CLASS Act actually would save taxpayer dollars by reducing Medicaid costs--according to CBO, almost $2 billion. CLASS Act premiums must be set at a level sufficient to guarantee actuarial soundness of the program.
We thank Senator Gregg for his amendment in the debate on the CLASS Act bill when it came up in committee.
The current CLASS Act includes significant improvements over earlier versions, such as tighter eligibility standards, a new reserve requirement, and an absolute prohibition on the use of taxpayer dollars to pay benefits. The Congressional Budget Office determined that the improved program is totally actuarially sound.
This bill, the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, creates a voluntary insurance program. Under the program, working people pay premiums for at least 5 years before it would vest. After that point, if the individual has paid in for 5 years and worked for at least 3 of those 5 years and develops a disability, they can receive a cash benefit of no less than $50 a day for as long as that disability persists. Contrary to popular belief, Medicare and most private health insurance only pay for long-term care for a short period, meaning that most people pay out of their own income or assets or their family's assets to provide this kind of benefit. Those with the most intense needs will frequently exhaust these assets and have to rely on Medicaid, thus impoverishing themselves in order to qualify.
The CLASS Act provides essential options for 65 percent of those age 65 and older who will need long-term care services at some point in their lives and for the 70,000 workers with severe disabilities in the Nation today who need daily assistance to maintain their jobs and their independence.
It has been said that this program is not financially stable and amounts to nothing more than a Ponzi scheme. This program, they say, will create a new government entitlement program. It is not a government entitlement program--anything but. The CLASS Act does not confer rights or an obligation on the government funding, nor does it affect receipt of or eligibility for other benefits. The program stands on its own financial feet.
CBO has estimated the program to be actuarially sound for the next 75 years. The CLASS Act is solvent, according to the CBO. The program would run only on its own cashflows. CBO estimates an average monthly premium of $123 for an average daily cash benefit of $75 for those who qualify. It may not seem like much, but over a year that would provide needed assistance for those who suffer under disabilities.
CBO uses very conservative participation rates. CBO assumes participation rates that do not consider that CLASS would offer a lifetime cash benefit, be endorsed by the government, and provide a convenient way for employees to auto-enroll through their employers with a voluntary opt-out. All of these features would increase participation rates, which will result in lower premiums, encourage enrollment, and make the program even stronger financially.
Solvency of the program is bolstered by flexibility to adjust the program. In their November 25 letter to the Congress, the CBO acknowledges that the legislation gives flexibility to the Health and Human Services Secretary to adjust premiums and benefits where or if ever needed. This provides a lever to ensure that the program stays solvent even if real life does not perfectly mirror the models of the CBO, as good as they are.
As the Congressional Budget Office discusses, the CLASS Act would function just like any other private long-term care insurance program which finances benefit payments from a premium reserve and interest income off that reserve. Due to budget scorekeeping, the CBO finds that premium revenue exceeds benefit payments in the third decade but does not take into consideration accumulated reserves and income off those reserves that keep the program fiscally independent.
Beyond being self-supporting and voluntary, this program can actually generate savings in Medicaid. Direct offset of the $75 daily benefit is applied toward any Medicaid long-term care costs. Beyond that, the CLASS Act program will help people live independently at home or in the community. When people with disabilities get the services they need, they are less likely to spend down to get Medicaid and less likely to enter a nursing home or hospital, all of which generates additional Medicaid savings.
Of course, what we don't calculate here, because I don't know how one would calculate it, is that notion of independence. I suspect maybe all of us
know people who are on Medicaid and know the frustration particularly of someone who is otherwise healthy but suffers from disabilities who would like to work and wants to keep independent. Yet if you go into the Medicaid Program, there are huge restraints on your ability to do so. So by this program, aside from financially reducing Medicaid costs, we are actually providing that additional sense of human dignity and decency that just because you have a disability and you need help doesn't mean you don't want to be self-sufficient and keep working. There is the gratification of knowing you are contributing in some way other than being shuttered away, having impoverished yourself, relying on others' assets to take care of you because you do not have those resources.
Senator Kennedy generated this idea years ago, and now I think it is improved because of the amendments and ideas that have been suggested by a number of our colleagues here, as well as others, and we have actually strengthened the concept to give it the kind of financial independence Members want it to have, sheltering these dollars against being used for other purposes, such as going off to some other program that people may have a great desire to fund by tapping into these resources. We prohibit that from happening.
If employers do not want to have a payroll deduction, they do not have to have that. No one is required to join the program. We believe, though, when members of our society and country see the benefits of this, they will gravitate to it as a wonderful way to ensure against that dreaded possibility all of us face; that is, becoming disabled, being unable to work as much as we would like to, needing additional assistance and help, and, of course, having very few places to turn to get it.
The disability groups and others that support this, 275 organizations, aging, religious groups, disability organizations across the country--I am not going to read all of them here because 275 names is a lot, but I have here the list of all 275 organizations that have strongly supported this proposal. I cannot think of any finer way to celebrate the memory of our former colleague, who cared so much about this bill we are now engaged in debating, who brought this idea to the table years ago, and who championed it for so many years.
Today, we have a chance to include this wonderful concept, this creative, innovative idea. It saves money. It provides independence for people. It gives them a chance to lead good lives. It provides support to their families who otherwise have to bear a lot of that burden. None of us want our children or our grandchildren to have to bear burdens as they are trying to raise their own families. So here is a little idea that has generated support, totally by voluntary contributions. There is no government money involved at all. And it is to give people a chance to live out the remaining time of their lives with decency and dignity, having the sense of making a contribution and making a difference.
All of those facts I cannot put a dollar amount on. I cannot tell you what the financial benefit is of someone getting up in the morning, getting a little help but going off to a job and knowing they are needed and have worth and value as a human being. What is the dollar amount on that? I cannot tell you, except I know it has value in our country. Or the alternative? Getting rid of all your assets, impoverishing yourself, relying on your family or friends to take care of you in order to try to survive, when you could be doing more.
So I hope my colleagues will support the Whitehouse amendment when it is offered to strengthen this program and that they will resoundingly defeat the effort to cut this program out of the bill altogether. I cannot think of a worse thing we could do with a piece of legislation that is designed to be creative, innovative, reduce costs, and make a difference for millions of our fellow citizens. And a growing number-- as was pointed out, by the year 2030, 14 million Americans in our country, and I suspect more--will be in need of services such as these.
I see my colleague and friend from Iowa on the floor, who has been as strong a champion as this Congress has ever had when it comes to the disabled in our country, having been the author of the Americans with Disabilities Act, along with others but nonetheless the principal architect of that effort, and he can speak more eloquently than any other human being I have ever known about why this program is important and what it means.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the list of 275 organizations that strongly endorse and support Senator Kennedy's CLASS Act be printed in the Record.
Before we go to our next speaker, I wish to ask if I could request that the next half hour be equally divided; is that OK?
Forty minutes, equally divided.
Yes. That would be under the same order as we had before, I would ask the Chair.
Mr. President, the Senator from Rhode Island wants to be heard.
Mr. President, I yield whatever time we may have remaining to Senator Kirk of Massachusetts, who has done an incredible job in very difficult circumstances--replacing our beloved former colleague Ted Kennedy from Massachusetts. He has been a valuable contribution over these days he has been here. I know he wishes to say a few words as well.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I am about to, on behalf of the majority leader, propound a unanimous consent request.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that at 3:30 p.m. today, the Senate proceed to vote in relation to the following amendments and motion to commit, as listed in this agreement, with no other amendments, motions to commit, or any other motion except a motion to reconsider and table upon the conclusion of any vote, being in order during the pendency of this agreement; further, that prior to the second and succeeding votes, there be 2 minutes of debate, with all time equally divided and controlled in the usual form; that any amendment or motion covered under this agreement be subject to an affirmative 60-vote threshold, and that if any achieve that threshold, then it be agreed to and the motion to reconsider be considered made and laid upon the table; that if it does not achieve that 60-vote threshold, then it be withdrawn; that after the first vote in this sequence, the succeeding votes be 10 minutes in duration:
A Senator Whitehouse amendment re: Social Security fiscal responsibility; the Republican leader's designee amendment re: fiscal responsibility; Senator Stabenow's side-by-side amendment re: Medicare Advantage; and Senator Hatch's motion to commit re: Medicare Advantage.
Further, that once this agreement is entered, the Republican leader's designee be recognized to call up the fiscal responsibility amendment; and that once it has been reported by number, Senator Stabenow be recognized to call up the Medicare Advantage side-by-side amendment; that upon disposition of the amendments and the motion in this agreement, the next two matters for consideration will be a Senator Lincoln amendment regarding insurance executive compensation, and Republican leader's designee motion to commit regarding home health agencies; that for the remainder of today's session, no further amendments or motions to commit be in order, with the time until then being equally divided between the leaders or their designees, with Members permitted to speak up to 10 minutes each.
Mr. President, how much time remains?
Mr. President, I see my colleague from Minnesota. Does he wish to be heard? How much time does my colleague need?
Take 4.
How much time remains for both sides?
The Senator has 4 minutes.
Mr. President, I yield 4 minutes to the Senator from Michigan.