I thank the gentleman for yielding. We could have had a bipartisan bill, and that seems to be the real shame here. This has been historically a bill that has not been hyperpartisan as the one that's…
I thank the gentleman for yielding.
We could have had a bipartisan bill, and that seems to be the real shame here. This has been historically a bill that has not been hyperpartisan as the one that's before us today, the one by which the parties have generally sat down together and considered each other's opinions in order to come to the best solution, but it didn't happen.
The underlying bill arbitrarily eliminates and consolidates all the programs and collapses them into one. It tries to substitute that, I guess, for an analysis of what ought to be done. It relies on the comments of a GAO report that said some of the programs may have overlapped somewhat, but it did not reach the conclusion that they were duplicative or that they didn't serve necessary and unique populations.
Instead, the majority has seized on that to collapse all of the programs together and to freeze the funding instead of doing what our bill would do, which is to provide for data and analysis in consideration of what programs ought to be sustained; to make them justify how they're improving and serving the populations; and to determine whether or not there need to be changes or whether some do, in fact, need to be terminated or consolidated. That process has been avoided and ignored throughout.
It's interesting to note that the administration is invoked from time to time as being opposed not just to this year's version but to last year's version, which was fairly identical and that it indicates that it doesn't meet the administration's goals set out for training in this country.
The underlying bill would dissolve youth training programs. I've heard comments about the seriousness of being involved with youths who are out of work, but the underlying bill dissolves youth training dedicated funds and other service delivery priorities, like to veterans and the disabled. It also has virtually no support amongst all of the people who are really involved in workforce development in this country. There was very little, if any, consideration of their views and their input into that despite the labor they put in and the policy decisions that they help make day in and day out. The substitute has broad support. It did go out and listen to the stakeholders on that, and it did get their opinions and incorporated them, and that's why a bipartisan discussion amongst Members would have benefited the bills on that.
We have better accountability. The main bill abdicates to the Governors who have taken Federal policy responsibility here where it's deserved. There are many, many, many other reasons to oppose this bill that we will get into when we talk about the substitute.
Madam Chairwoman, I rise to claim time in opposition to the amendment.
Thank you very much.
I understand that much in the manager's amendment is technical and clarifying corrections, but it does make one notable substantive change to the underlying bill as it pertains to the designation of local workforce investment areas.
Current law calls for automatic designation of a local workforce area with a population of 500,000 or more. It also ensures that the voices of local elected officials, businesses, and workforce development officials, among others, are heard. That's a good thing.
Now, the underlying bill--the so-called SKILLS Act--radically changed this. It repealed the automatic designation that I just mentioned, and it essentially empowered the Governor to designate an entire State as one local workforce area if that Governor chose to do so. This is not viewed as sound policy.
Two days ago, the Conference of Mayors, the National Association of Counties, the National League of Cities, and the National Association of Workforce Boards sent a letter to the House leadership that expressed concerns with this particular provision. Specifically, they wrote:
H.R. 803 undermines existing governance structures by
virtually eliminating the input of local elected officials in
the decisionmaking process.
They also said:
H.R. 803 fails to promote intergovernmental collaboration
between State and local officials by eliminating prior
provisions relating to automatic designation of local
workforce development areas, effectively allowing State
boards to designate local areas in consultation with the
Governor, without considering input from local stakeholders.
Now, I think this mistake has been recognized, and we can see that by this manager's amendment where there is an attempt to try and address this situation. But it is further evidence of the deficiencies of a hyperpartisan bill that neglects the opportunity to sit down with others and work through these issues so that we can come up with the best solution on that. Now they're trying to get out of this hole they created by proposing a sort of solution in the manager's amendment that is still inadequate and certainly is worse than current law.
The manager's amendment provides an application process for local boards. So instead of being automatically designated if there are 500,000 in the population or more, they have to apply to be designated as a local workforce area. But that application still has to be approved by the State, which could totally reject it. And that's only for a period of 3 years, so they have to keep going through this process periodically. If I were a mayor or a business person who is chairing a local board, I don't think I would be very pleased with this provision--and in fact they're not.
I'm not sure how creating an unnecessary and bureaucratic process where locals would have to reapply continuously for their designation every 3 years squares with my Republican colleagues' supposed concern about duplication in the workforce.
Later this morning, we will be offering a substitute amendment that retains current law and protects the local individuals' role in the workforce system. Certainly, if we had the opportunity for a bipartisan bill, we could have worked through this issue and come up with what would be the best solution. This is just one example of the important policy provisions in this bill that could have been addressed in that way. This could have been a bipartisan bill, and we could have got the best product, and we didn't.
I reserve the balance of my time.
I yield myself such time as I may consume.
This is an attempt to deal with the problem that was in the underlying bill, as pointed out by that letter, but an attempt that mirrors the process for the last session and this session. They didn't consult anybody. They didn't talk to anybody. They didn't say what would be the solution. They just went out and arbitrarily decided that, again, having once messed up, they thought they were the repository for all knowledge on this subject and went about setting on a course that still falls short.
Yes, current law allows for Governors to work with the consultation of others to set local designated areas, but areas of 500,000 population or more are already designated, and that's the point at issue here.
I think we've seen an example of the process--just deciding that all knowledge is reposited in one section; not wanting to discuss with others. We understand.
This could have been a good bill. This could have been a bill that went through the House, was taken up by the Senate, and then went on to the President's desk--a bill that the public could have been proud of, a bill that everybody could have got behind, but we didn't. We see a failed process, so we end up with a failed part of the provision of the original bill, and another failed attempt to fix it because there's no reaching out and no attempt.
Last time we had some hearings, very brief. Then we had a vote where partisan votes went all the way down the line. This time we have one hearing the day that the bill was filed, two out of three witnesses say they didn't read the bill, an immediate markup, where we chose not to go through the same faux hearing process of having all of the amendments just shot down on a partisan vote.
We're here. We always have been here. We want to work this through. This was not a hyperpartisan issue--it's just been made to be one.
I reserve the balance of my time.
No normal person would confuse being given an opportunity to have your amendment shot down on a party-line vote as a bipartisan process.
I remind the gentlewoman that it was her party, Mr. McKeon, who correctly stated it's the majority's obligation to reach across the aisle and seek compromise on that because they're the ones with the gavel on that.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chair, I rise to claim time in opposition, but will not be opposing the amendment.
Thank you, Madam Chair.
Essentially, I would like to reserve some time for someone we are expecting down to talk on that. But I do make note that in the gentleman, Mr. Young's, Dear Colleague letter regarding this particular matter, he makes note that the underlying bill does not accommodate the needs of this particular population, and that's why the necessity existed for him to bring this amendment that we support to the floor. But it's another example of how the process should have improved this bill all along had it been done in a bipartisan, consultative manner, as we had all hoped it would be.
With that, I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I yield myself 30 seconds.
I would like to make the point that obviously there are certain populations within our society that deserve particular attention because they have unique needs. You don't accomplish that by arbitrarily taking all the programs and lumping them together without a full analysis and determination of which ones would be better served on that basis and which ones wouldn't. I think it further establishes our point that we made throughout.
I congratulate the gentleman on his amendment and support it fully.
With that, I yield back the balance of my time.
I ask unanimous consent to reclaim the balance of my time to a Member having arrived to speak on the amendment.
I yield the remaining time to the gentlelady from Hawaii, Representative Gabbard.
Madam Chairwoman, I have an amendment at the desk.
Madam Chairwoman, I yield myself 3 minutes.
This amendment is offered in its entirety as a substitute for the underlying bill and the manager's amendment to it. I do it because I strongly believe that this is, in fact, a better proposal than the existing one, but would have preferred what could have been the best result in this bill, which would have been one where all of the Members had had consultation and where all of the negotiations had occurred and we were able to bring forth a bill with concessions by both sides to get a bill that would have been assured of passage in the Senate, or close to that, assured the President's signature and assured the support of the broad public.
Instead, just as in the last session, we end up with a proposal that ignores sound proposals from both sides and that goes with a hyper- partisan approach, and that's not going to serve the country or this process at all. Having a chance to present 18 amendments,
as was done in the last session, and having them all essentially shot down on a party-line vote is not an excuse or a substitute for having a process in which we really try to work out our differences and make reasonable concessions.
This bill that's before us today by the majority party was filed on February 25. A so-called ``hearing'' occurred on February 26, the very next day, at which two of the three Republican witnesses admitted they had never read the bill. Instead, of programs that exist right now, this bill proceeded with their arbitrary consolidation or elimination without any evaluation of their efficacy, of their effectiveness, of whether or not they ought to be consolidated or changed or terminated or kept intact as they are.
Reliance was made on the GAO report, which did not say anything about consolidating. All it said was that some of the programs duplicate some aspects and that only five programs had had a full evaluation, which would have begged the question for more hearings, more thorough evaluation, more data, and more consultation with the people involved-- the stakeholders--to, in fact, come to a conclusion of just how, and if, consolidation should have happened.
We've seen from some of the amendments made today, even by Members of the majority, that they thought that some of the populations should have gotten more attention than the base bill gives them. Essentially, here, we have a public policy that is dictated, not by Washington in the underlying bill, but is advocated to Governors so that instead of being accountable for the decisions we make of who we think needs job training in this country and what the national needs are, the Republican bill would just abdicate that to Governors, and they could decide to serve or not serve entire populations and afford them an opportunity to get the training that we believe as legislators they need.
This bill, as amended by the manager's amendment, creates a one-size- fits-all: it eliminates separate training funds for youth; it silences the voices of the community colleges, labor, economic development groups, and community-based organizations; it eliminates supported employment programs, like the Disabled Veterans' Outreach Program; it eliminates the priority of service delivery for low-income adults and out-of-school youth.
Perhaps that's why so many groups have expressed serious concern about this underlying bill. Groups like the United States Conference of Mayors, the National Association of Counties, the National League of Cities, the National Association of Workforce Boards, Corporation for a Skilled Workforce, Goodwill Industries International, and so many others have expressed concern for this underlying bill or have expressed approval for the substitute that we offer. It's why the administration has filed a statement opposing this bill, just as it did last year, saying it doesn't meet the administration's goals and urging the Republicans to work with us to make a better bill on that.
Mr. Chairman, we could have had the best of all alternatives. We could have had a good bill for the American people. We could have had a bill that took the best aspects of all the proposals and put them together with consultation and presented that for the approval of this House, then had a signed signature by the President, and then had the support of the American people. Unfortunately, that process was not followed, and the arbitrary process was endured by all of us on that part.
I ask that the Members support this substitute as being better than the underlying bill; and then hopefully, we could get back to getting the best bill, which would be one done by collaboration and cooperation.
I reserve the balance of my time.
At this time I would like to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hinojosa), a coauthor of the substitute amendment.
Mr. Chairman, at this time I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer), the minority whip.
I thank the Chair, first of all, for having the discussion on time. Apparently, the time was a little bit confused on that.
I ask unanimous consent that both sides be awarded an additional minute.
Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of the time.
The previous speaker, I don't know if he stayed or left or anything like that, but he talked about the environment being set. The environment of this was set in the hyperpartisan nature of the last session's presentation of the bill similar to this and of a bill this time giving no right to consult.
Showing up to participate in a so-called markup process where every vote would have been on a partisan basis and moved on, as it was last time, is not the issue. The issue is whether or not people reach across the aisle. As our Republican friend Buck McKeon had indicated, it's the majority's responsibility to, in fact, do this.
It's one thing to listen; it's another to comprehend. GAO's report, if one listened to it being read on that, indicated that there were a number of programs, but only five have been evaluated. It would have begged for an evaluation that we never had about what we were going to do with the programs on that. It talked about the fact that some might have overlapped, but said nothing about programs needing to be eliminated or terminated or saying that they were duplicative on that. We needed to determine that.
The underlying bill fails on a number of reasons, as I stated earlier. The amendment improves that. But again, the best bill would have been a bill where people sat down, member to member, worked out their differences, and presented to the American public, and for the President's signature, a bill that was bipartisan in nature and served both the employers and the prospective employees.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I demand a recorded vote.