Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, as I begin this discussion today, I rise in opposition to H. Res. 565. I want to lay the premise of the discussion as I begin to…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, as I begin this discussion today, I rise in opposition to H. Res. 565. I want to lay the premise of the discussion as I begin to explain why the question of ``why?'' is not answered. I would imagine that the question of ``why?'' will not be answered by the conclusion of this debate.
The premise of the resolution H. Res. 565 is on the Federal regulations 601, 600.2, and 600.3. On the face of the resolution, in the facts, there is no evidence under either of the two initial ones. And that is, first, there has been no elimination of the question of whether there is a criminal investigation or whether there should be; and the grounds for appointing a special counsel include whether or not they determine such an investigation is needed, and that the investigation or prosecution of the person or matter by the United States Attorney's Office would present a conflict of interest. Then the circumstances will be in the public interest. None of those criteria have been met.
First of all, in a May 7 letter most recently, the U.S. Department of Justice has said there is an ongoing determination of criminal investigation, an ongoing investigation into all of the allegations. From the Ways and Means, from the Oversight Committee there is an ongoing U.S. Department of Justice investigation.
Now, I believe in congressional oversight, but I also believe in rational congressional oversight, which means, why are we asking for special counsel when the Department of Justice is in the middle of an active investigation? There has been no conclusion, there has been no suggestion that there will not be a further investigation or criminal investigation, and there is no proven conflict of interest.
The Department of Justice employee that has been mentioned by the majority:
One, is not lead counsel, as evidenced in a letter dated February 3, 2014;
And two, President Obama is not the point of this investigation, as I understand it, and the individual made private free speech donations in the course of a campaign.
Are you suggesting that a public employee does not have the private personal right, First Amendment right, of freedom of speech? I would think not.
So I rise in strong opposition to H. Res. 565. There are no grounds for it. The Justice Department is working and it is investigating. Again, for those of you who are unaware of the legal authority undergirding this resolution, it is based on a series of regulations promulgated by the Justice Department that has been adhered to by Republican and Democratic administrations. You may not like the results of it, but it gives the criteria for authorizing the Attorney General to appoint a special counsel ``when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted.''
There is an ongoing investigation. That means that at the conclusion, or when all of the data and information is reviewed, that decision is still to be made. There is no closure now to suggest that the Department of Justice has not done what it is supposed to do.
In sum, these circumstances are that the Justice Department's prosecution will present a conflict of interest for the Department and that it would be in the public interest for a special counsel to assume responsibility.
This measure that we are debating today, however, utterly fails to meet any of that criteria.
The sponsors of H. Res. 565 make bald, unsupported conflict of interest allegations against a mid-level career attorney whose only fault was to engage in lawful, constitutionally protected political activity, of which I have spoken, and is not the lead counsel-- definitively is not the lead counsel.
We have two distinct and qualified experts: Bruce Green, a former Federal prosecutor and current professor of law at Fordham Law School, and Daniel Richman, an expert in criminal procedure from Columbia, who clearly articulate no basis for experts conflict of interest. In fact, the ranking member of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee issued a report earlier this week detailing that committee's yearlong investigation of the IRS efforts to screen applicants for their tax exempt status.
Among this report's principal findings are that over the course of lengthy
and detailed interviews of 39 witnesses, absolutely no evidence of White House involvement was identified. Not a single one of these witnesses' interviews revealed any evidence of political motivation.
These interviewees included IRS employees who identified themselves as Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and others who had no political affiliation.
Another fact that the supporters of this measure ignore is that there already is, as I have indicated, an ongoing investigation by the Justice Department in this matter, and they are complying with the structure of the appointment process for a special counsel. There has been no determination of conflict. There has been no determination that we are ending the investigation to the lack of satisfaction of the United States Congress. We are in an ongoing investigation.
600.2 of the Code, as I mentioned, of the Federal Regulations explicitly authorizes the Attorney General to direct an initial investigation in lieu of appointing a special counsel to determine whether grounds can even exist to warrant the appointment of a special counsel. But an easy manner, other than a resolution on the floor of the House: a simple letter could have been written to the Attorney General for his consideration.
So what is this resolution about? To begin with, it is pure political theater. Rather than simply writing a letter to the Attorney General asking him to appoint a special counsel, which is the time-honored way to do this, the House leadership has resorted to using a resolution that is subject to floor debate and, of course, C-SPAN coverage, but has no real legal effect.
Even The Wall Street Journal's editorial board, which is certainly not a partisan entity as it relates to its advocacy of President Obama or its administration, which is not a bastion of liberalism, noted in an editorial published a year ago that ``calling for a special prosecutor is a form of cheap political grace that gets a quick headline at the cost of less political accountability.''
I would rather have us working together, Mr. Speaker. I would rather us get to the facts. I would rather that the professional men and women of the U.S. Department of Justice be allowed to pursue this investigation unbiased and thorough.
Rather than promoting greater transparency, the appointment of a special counsel, as the Wall Street Journal points out, would have the opposite result. The Journal explains:
With a special prosecutor, the probe would immediately move
to the shadows, and the administration and the IRS would use
it as an excuse to limit its cooperation with Congress.
Special prosecutors aren't famous for their speed. If there
were no indictments, whatever the prosecutor has discovered
would stay secret. And even if specific criminal charges were
filed, the facts of an indictment couldn't stray far from the
four corners of the violated statute.
Beyond proving the specific case in court, a special prosecutor will not be as concerned with the larger public policy consequences and political accountability. We could be doing other things, and we could not be spending $14 million.
There has been no basis for this resolution to pass, and I ask my colleagues to oppose this resolution.
With that, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to H. Res. 565.
For those of you who are unaware of the legal authority undergirding this resolution, it is based on a series of regulations promulgated by the Justice Department.
In pertinent part, section 600.1 of title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations authorizes the Attorney General to appoint a special counsel ``when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted,'' under certain specified circumstances.
In sum, these circumstances are that the Justice Department's prosecution would present a conflict of interest for the Department and that it would be in the public interest for a special counsel to assume responsibility for this matter.
This measure that we are debating today, however, utterly fails to meet any of these criteria.
The sponsors of H. Res. 565 make bald, unsupported conflict of interest allegations against a mid-level career attorney whose only fault was to engage in lawful--constitutionally protected--political activity.
In fact, the Ranking Member of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee issued a report earlier this week detailing that Committee's year-long investigation of the IRS efforts to screen applicants for their tax-exempt status.
Among this report's principal findings are that: over the course of lengthy and detailed interviews of 39 witnesses involved in this matter, absolutely no evidence of White House involvement was identified; and not a single one of these 39 witness interviews revealed any evidence of political motivation.
These interviewees included IRS employees who identified themselves as Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and others who had no political affiliation.
Another fact that the supporters of this measure ignore is that there already is an ongoing investigation by the Justice Department into this matter.
Indeed, section 600.2 of title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations explicitly authorizes the Attorney General to direct an initial investigation--in lieu of appointing a special counsel--to determine whether grounds even exist to warrant the appointment of a special counsel.
So what is this resolution really about?
To begin with, it's pure political theater. Rather than simply writing a letter to the Attorney General asking him to appoint a special counsel, which is the time-honored way to do this, the House Leadership has resorted to using a resolution that is subject to floor debate and C-span coverage, but has no real legal effect.
Even the Wall Street Journal's Editorial Board, which is not a bastian of liberalism, noted in an editorial published a year ago that ``calling for a special prosecutor is a form of cheap political grace that gets a quick headline at the cost of less political accountability.''
And, rather than promoting greater transparency, the appointment of a special counsel, as the Wall Street Journal points out, would have the opposite result. The Journal explains:
With a special prosecutor, the probe would immediately move
to the shadows, and the Administration and the IRS would use
it as an excuse to limit its cooperation with Congress.
Special prosecutors aren't famous for their speed . . . . If
there were no indictments, whatever the prosecutor has
discovered would stay secret. And even if specific criminal
charges were filed, the facts of an indictment couldn't stray
far from the four corners of the violated statute.
Beyond proving his specific case in court, a special
prosecutor will not be as concerned with the larger public
policy consequences and political accountability.
The Wall Street Journal concludes by pointing out the obvious:
Congress can do the investigating first, and if it
discovers criminal behavior it can make that known and refer
the cases and evidence to Mr. Holder, who will then be
accountable if he refuses to act.
Unfortunately, the real scandal here is that this foolhardy witch hunt directed at the IRS has cost American taxpayers well in excess of $14 million dollars, money that we all know could have been better spent.
And now we are wasting limited floor time on this charade rather than taking up the issues that the American people urgently need this Congress to act upon.
These include: fixing our broken immigration system; increasing the minimum wage; strengthening our Nation's economic recovery; creating more jobs; extending unemployment insurance; and helping students struggling with overwhelming educational loan debt, which now exceeds one trillion dollars.
These are real issues that affect real people across America. This is where we should be focusing our resources.
Accordingly, I urge my colleagues to reject this ill-conceived measure.
Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlelady from New Mexico, Congresswoman Michelle Lujan Grisham, a former official of the New Mexico State Government.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I think it is important to state that one of the provisions that is not in the regulation for establishing a special counsel is that it is a ``get you'' procedure. It is not a ``got you'' procedure. It follows an orderly process of which the Department of Justice is engaged.
I would like to introduce into the Record a letter dated February 3, 2014, that indicates that the Justice Department's lawyer who has been charged with leading the investigation is not leading the investigation. He is part of a team.
Office of the
Deputy Attorney General,
Washington, DC, February 3, 2014.
Hon. Jim Jordan,
Chairman, Subcommittee on Economic Growth, Job Creation and
Regulatory Affairs, Committee on Oversight and Government
Reform, House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Chairman Jordan: This responds to your letter to an
attorney in the Civil Rights Division, dated January 31,
2014, again requesting her testimony at a Subcommittee
hearing on February 6, 2014, regarding the Department of
Justice's ongoing criminal investigation into the Internal
Revenue Service's treatment of groups applying for tax exempt
status. To reiterate, consistent with longstanding Department
policy, no Department representative will be in a position to
provide testimony about this ongoing law enforcement matter.
As a preliminary matter, we disagree with your allegation
that because of the attorney's engagement in lawful political
activity, she has a conflict of interest regarding the
investigation. Your letter of January 28, 2014, selectively
quoted the Department regulation concerning the
disqualification of employees from investigations based on
personal or political relationships, and alleged that ``at
the very least, [the attorney's] participation in the
investigation runs afoul of this regulation.'' A careful
review of 28 C.F.R. 45.2, however, shows that this is not
true. That regulation provides that an employee should not
participate in an investigation if he or she has ``a personal
or political relationship'' with a person or organization
substantially involved in the conduct being investigated or
who has a specific and substantial interest in the
investigation's outcome. The regulation defines a ``political
relationship'' as ``close identification with an elected
official, a candidate (whether or not successful) for
elective, public office, a political party, or a campaign
organization, arising from service as a principal adviser
thereto or a principal official thereof,'' and defines
``personal relationship'' as a ``close and substantial
connection of the type normally viewed as likely to induce
partiality'' and states that employees are presumed to have a
personal relationship with spouses, parents, children, and
siblings, and that other relationships must be judged on an
individual basis. Accordingly, consistent with this
regulation, the attorney whose integrity you have unfairly
questioned has neither a political nor personal relationship
that disqualifies her from the investigation. We also note
again that, contrary to the assertion in your letter of
January 28, 2014, this attorney was not assigned to lead the
investigation, but rather is a member of a team that includes
representatives of the Criminal Division, the Civil Rights
Division, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and the
Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration.
We agree with your view that ``[t]he American people
deserve to have complete confidence that the Administration
is conducting through and unbiased investigation.''
Accordingly, it is imperative that we avoid actions--such as
testifying before Congress about this pending criminal
investigation--that could give rise to a perception that the
criminal investigation is subject to undue influence by
elected officials. We reiterate that consistent with
longstanding policy, in order to protect the integrity or our
investigation, we are not in a position to provide you with
any non-public information about this ongoing matter. This
policy is intended to protect the effectiveness and integrity
of the criminal justice process, as well as the privacy
interests of third parties. It is neither new nor partisan,
but rather based upon longstanding views of Department
officials, both Democrat and Republican alike. While we
respect the important role of congressional oversight, we
believe that our provision of the testimony you have
requested would be inconsistent with our commitment to
principles of justice and the independence of our law
enforcement efforts.
As the Attorney General stated in his testimony before the
Senate Judiciary Committee on January 29, 2014, ``[t]he men
and women of the Justice Department have for time immemorial
put aside whatever their political leanings are and conducted
investigations in a way that relies only on facts and the
law,'' and we do not ``have any basis to believe that the
people who are engaged in this investigation are doing so in
a way other than investigations are normally done--that is,
by looking at the facts, applying the law to those facts and
reaching the appropriate conclusions.'' We request that you
allow the Department employees responsible for this
investigation to conduct it without demands for disclosures
or other interference that would be inconsistent with their
commitment to the integrity of the criminal justice process.
We appreciate your interest in this investigation and, as the
Attorney General has explained, we will be in a better
position to provide Congress with information about our
decisions in this matter when it is concluded.
Sincerely,
James M. Cole,
Deputy Attorney General.
Mr. Speaker, it is my privilege to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Deutch), a member of the House Judiciary Committee.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Let me just say very quickly that the entire premise of the gentleman's comments have been proven absolutely wrong. Thirty-nine witnesses never said one moment that the Presidential election of 2012 was in any way involved in this particular issue.
In addition, this is a bipartisan investigation because we have the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration appointed by a Republican and who is a Republican working with the Department of Justice.
I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Levin), the distinguished ranking member of the Ways and Means Committee, who has had a detailed investigation and oversight from his committee on this issue.
(Mr. LEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, could you give us how much time is remaining on both sides, please?
I am sure my kind friend from Virginia will yield me some additional time, but I will use what I have.
Let me try to bring us together, Mr. Speaker.
Yesterday, in the Rules Committee, there was a collegial moment when we said, Let's clarify the law.
If there is anything the Democrats and Republicans agree with, it is that ineptness, wrongness, misdirection was obviously evident in the equal targeting of all groups--groups that had the name ``progressive,'' ``Occupy,'' and others.
As Members of Congress, none of us want the citizens of the United States to be in any way intimidated by a government that is here to help them. And I stand here saying we can come together to ensure that all of our government agencies work well.
The President made the point in May of 2013 that if in fact the IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups--and it has been noted by the witnesses in the Oversight Committee that they were targeting other groups as well--Occupy, progressive--then that is outrageous, and there is no place for it.
There is no conflict in this.
What we are now debating is a fallacy of the appointment of a special counsel and the $14 million and the 700,000 pages of unredacted documents, more than 250 people who have been responding to congressional inquiries.
I will include in the Record an April 23, 2014, letter to Congressman Sander Levin that talks about the litany of requests that the IRS has been requested to do.
Department of the Treasury,
Internal Revenue Service,
Washington, DC, April 23, 2014.
Hon. Sander Levin,
Ranking Member, Committee on Ways and Means, House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Levin: I am responding to your request for
documents relating to tax exempt advocacy organizations.
Since May of last year, the Internal Revenue Service has
been collecting, reviewing, and producing materials in
response to a number of Congressional requests, including
those from you and your Committee. In order to provide you
and your staff our full cooperation in addressing this
matter, more than 250 people, including attorneys, litigation
support staff, and other IRS personnel have worked more than
100,000 hours.
With this production, we have produced, including special
requests from individual committees, nearly 700,000 pages of
unredacted documents to the Senate Finance and House Ways and
Means Committees, which are authorized to receive I.R.C.
Sec. 6103 information. We also have produced, including
special requests from individual committees, over 530,000
pages, redacted as required by section 6103, to the Senate
Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations and the House
Government Reform and Oversight Committee. Our productions
have prioritized the custodians, subject matters, and search
terms when and as requested.
We have responded to more than fifty Congressional letters
and hundreds of informal Congressional requests.
We have facilitated more than sixty transcribed interviews
by Congressional staff of current and former IRS employees.
IRS personnel have answered questions related to the
subjects of these investigations at 18 Congressional
hearings.
The IRS document production was collected from IRS hard
copy and electronic files, including documents from 83
individual custodians.
This production consists of documents from multiple
custodians; the materials are Bates-stamped IRSR0000617700--
IRSR0000645643 and IRSR0000649674--IRSR0000650117.
Additionally, we are reproducing documents that were
previously produced with non-6103 redactions, which have been
removed in this production. These documents are Bates-stamped
as follows:
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Begin Bates End Bates ------------------------------------------------------------------------
I also will include in the Record a May 7, 2014, letter that emphasizes that this is a bipartisan investigation. The inspector general of the Tax Administration, appointed by George Bush, is working with the U.S. Department of Justice. It negates very visibly any suggestion of conflict of interest or that this is a biased investigation.
U.S. Department of Justice,
Office of Legislative Affairs,
Washington, DC, May 7, 2014.
Hon. Dave Camp,
Chairman, Committee on Ways and Means, House of
Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Chairman: This responds to your letter of April 9,
2014, providing the Department of Justice (the Department)
information and documents that the Committee on Ways and
Means (the Committee) has obtained in the course of its
ongoing investigation into allegations of targeting by the
Internal Revenue Service of organizations based on their
political views.
As you may know, the Department has an ongoing criminal
investigation into the IRS's treatment of groups applying for
tax-exempt status, which is being conducted jointly with the
Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA). We
appreciate your concern and will carefully consider the
Committee's findings as part of our investigation into these
allegations.
We hope that this information is helpful. Please do not
hesitate to contact this office if we may provide assistance
in this or any other matter.
Sincerely,
Peter J. Kadzik,
Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General.
In addition, I think it is very important to note that we are the Congress and the administration. But I take great issue in suggesting the lack of integrity of our employees in the Federal Government and that they would do anything to undermine an official investigation.
The letter that we received on February 23, 2014, debunks any personal relationship of this single attorney in a single office with any one political candidate from a personal perspective.
A donation, yes. But are you suggesting that that individual has no private right to enterprise their free speech?
There is no close identification with an elected official, no relationship with families and children.
And so, Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues to vote against this resolution that is not grounded in any substance, does not meet the standard of 600.1, 600.2, and finds no conflict. This is no investigation that is over. There is no suggestion that they are not, in essence, investigating all parties, and that there will not be a conclusion that will ultimately make a decision that is unbiased as to whether or not persons will be criminally prosecuted.
And so this resolution does not meet the standard. It is, again, taking up space on the floor. I would like to see unemployment insurance and immigration reform here. I would like to help the American people and help job legislation to make a difference here in the United States Congress.
I have other documents I will add into the Record, Mr. Speaker. These letters are experts saying there is no conflict of interest.
Columbia University Law School,
New York, NY, February 5, 2014.
Re Prosecutorial Disqualification
Hon. Donald K. Sherman,
Counsel, Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, House
of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Sherman: Although I lack deep familiarity with the
matter you are inquiring about, I can offer some brief
thoughts on the questions you have posed to me, specifically:
Do past political contributions by a career prosecutor to a
Presidential campaign or political party create a conflict of
interest in a multi-agency investigation regarding
allegations of political targeting by federal agency
officials?
Do past political contributions by a career prosecutor to a
Presidential campaign or political party create grounds for
disqualification arising from a personal or ``political
relationship'' under 28 C.F.R. Sec. 45.2 in a multi-agency
investigation regarding allegations of misconduct of federal
agency officials?
Is it appropriate for Department of Justice leadership to
check the political donations made by a career prosecutor
before assigning that person to join a multi-agency
investigation involving victims claiming that they were
treated unfairly because of their political beliefs?
For background: I am currently the Paul J. Kellner
Professor of Law at Columbia Law School. For the past twenty
years, my scholarship has focused on criminal procedure and
federal criminal enforcement issues. I teach courses in
Criminal Procedure, Evidence, Federal Criminal Law, and a
Sentencing seminar. Before entering academia, I served as an
assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York,
and ultimately was the Chief Appellate Attorney in that
Office. Since leaving government service in 1992, I have
served as a consultant for various federal agencies,
including the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector
General, and I have been retained as defense counsel or a
consultant in a number of criminal and civil matters.
You have posed these questions with respect to a specific
Justice Department employee who, according to publically
available FEC data, donated amounts totaling $4250 to
political campaign funds related to the Democratic Party and
Barack Obama in 2004, and $2000 to funds relating to
President Obama in 2012. Any claim that these contributions,
in of themselves, create a conflict of interest or should be
cause for disqualification for a career prosecutor
investigating allegations of political targeting in the
Executive Branch strikes me as meritless.
28 CFR 45.2 is bars an employee from participating ``in a
criminal investigation or prosecution if he has a personal or
political relationship with:
(1) Any person or organization substantially involved in
the conduct that is the subject of the investigation or
prosecution; or
(2) Any person or organization which he knows has a
specific and substantial interest that would be directly
affected by the outcome of the investigation or prosecution.
And it goes on to define a ``political relationship'' as
a close identification with an elected official, a
candidate (whether or not successful) for elective, public
office, a political party, or a campaign organization,
arising from service as a principal adviser thereto or a
principal official thereof. . . .
Simple past campaign contributions do not come close to
meeting this standard. Indeed, were they to do so, the
conflict concerns would extend as much to employees who had
donated to the party out of office, since presumably that
party would be gain from any findings of impropriety by the
current Administration. It would similarly be highly
inappropriate for Justice Department officials, in putting an
investigative team together to inquire into the legal
political contributions that line prosecutors have made in
their private capacity. In my experience, one of the glories
of the Justice Department--worthy of celebration, not
undermining--is the non-partisan way in which line
prosecutors have done their work as Administrations come and
go. The last thing we want is to divide them into political
affinity groups.
Very truly yours,
Daniel Richman.
Oppose this present resolution and let's move on to come together and effectively work on behalf of the American people.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.