Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, most Americans don't know a single Syrian, and so people watching this debate might wonder, how has it come to be that Syria has…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, most Americans don't know a single Syrian, and so people watching this debate might wonder, how has it come to be that Syria has become the great platform of great power competition in the world?
It begins in 2011, during the Arab Spring, when Assad, who is undeniably a madman and a despot, opens fire on his own people protesting. Then part of the Syrian Army defects; they engage in warfare against Assad, and all of a sudden, they have a whole lot of weapons and money being sent from the rich gulf monarchies, through Jordan, into Syria.
So Iran is not just going to watch this. Assad is their ally. They activate Hezbollah, they then invade Syria. So now you have Jordan, the gulf monarchies, Iran.
But wait, Russia is pitching their vision of the world as a regime preservation force, whether you are Maduro or Assad. So they get involved.
What do they get for their time?
A warm-water port in the Eastern Mediterranean.
So we have got Russia, the gulf monarchies. Israel starts to get worried about Hezbollah and Iran, so Israel cuts a deal with Russia to keep Iran out of southern Syria.
If it doesn't get any worse than that, now all of a sudden, you have got the Kurds who declare war on Syria, and it makes it a little messy that the Kurds are also in conflict with Turkiye, which is a NATO ally.
Then somehow the United States in 2015, says, you know what? We need to get involved in this mess in Syria.
Since we have been there, we have seen Americans die. We have seen tens of billions of dollars wasted.
What is hilarious about the 2001 AUMF--that the neo-conservatives wave around like some permission slip for every neo-conservative fantasy of turning an Arabian desert into a Jeffersonian democracy--is that that very 2001 AUMF would justify attacking the people that we are fighting against and the people we are funding because both have ties to al-Qaida and, of course, the 2001 AUMF dealt with al-Qaida.
All this talk about a reemergence of ISIS; I would encourage my colleagues to go read the inspector general's report of the last quarter that indicates that ISIS is not a threat to the homeland. And with the Turks conducting operations in Syria against ISIS, with Assad and Russia having every incentive to create pressure on ISIS, I do not believe that what stands between a caliphate and not a caliphate are the 900 Americans who have been sent to this hellscape with no definition of victory, with no clear objective, and purely existing as a vestige to the regime change failed foreign policies of multiple former Presidents.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, my patriotic colleague, Mr. Zinke of Montana, gave up the game when he said ISIS will never be gone. So, presumably, the position of those holding that viewpoint is that we have to stay in Syria forever, maybe make it the 51st State.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Georgia (Ms. Greene), a member of the Homeland Security Committee and the House Oversight Committee.
Mr. Speaker, before yielding to my colleague, I would observe that we have done a lot for the Kurds: $1.5 billion. We can love the Kurds, but it is not a marriage. It is not until death do we part. It seems as though the Kurds have made book with Assad and that that would provide a structure for them to continue to exist.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Mills), a patriotic American who served in our military, who served in Iraq and Syria, a member of the House Armed Services Committee and my colleague.
Mr. Speaker, Republicans and Democrats alike have been citing the 2001 AUMF. It is important to note that there are Americans fighting in Syria today who were not born when the 2011 AUMF was approved. About 9 out of every 10 of us in the House of Representatives weren't here to vote on it.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Biggs).
Mr. Speaker, Syria is such a mess. We are sometimes funding both sides in the same battle.
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record an L.A. Times piece titled: ``In Syria, militias armed by the Pentagon fight those armed by the CIA.''
[From the L.A. Times, Mar. 27, 2016]
In Syria, Militias Armed by the Pentagon Fight Those Armed by the CIA
(By Nabih Bulos, W.J. Hennigan, Brian Bennett)
Syrian militias armed by different parts of the U.S. war
machine have begun to fight each other on the plains between
the besieged city of Aleppo and the Turkish border,
highlighting how little control U.S. intelligence officers
and military planners have over the groups they have financed
and trained in the bitter five-year-old civil war.
The fighting has intensified over the last two months, as
CIA-armed units and Pentagon-armed ones have repeatedly shot
at each other while maneuvering through contested territory
on the northern outskirts of Aleppo, U.S. officials and rebel
leaders have confirmed.
In mid-February, a CIA-armed militia called Fursan al Haq,
or Knights of Righteousness, was run out of the town of
Marea, about 20 miles north of Aleppo, by Pentagon-backed
Syrian Democratic Forces moving in from Kurdish-controlled
areas to the east.
``Any faction that attacks us, regardless from where it
gets its support, we will fight it,'' Maj. Fares Bayoush, a
leader of Fursan al Haq, said in an interview.
Rebel fighters described similar clashes in the town of
Azaz, a key transit point for fighters and supplies between
Aleppo and the Turkish border, and on March 3 in the Aleppo
neighborhood of Sheikh Maqsud.
The attacks by one U.S.-backed group against another come
amid continued heavy fighting in Syria and illustrate the
difficulty facing U.S. efforts to coordinate among dozens of
armed groups that are trying to overthrow the government of
President Bashar Assad, fight the Islamic State militant
group and battle one another all at the same time.
``It is an enormous challenge,'' said Rep. Adam Schiff (D-
Burbank), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence
Committee, who described the clashes between U.S.-supported
groups as ``a fairly new phenomenon.''
``It is part of the three-dimensional chess that is the
Syrian battlefield,'' he said.
The area in northern Syria around Aleppo, the country's
second-largest city, features not only a war between the
Assad government and its opponents, but also periodic battles
against Islamic State militants, who control much of eastern
Syria and also some territory to the northwest of the city,
and long-standing tensions among the ethnic groups that
inhabit the area, Arabs, Kurds and Turkmen.
``This is a complicated, multi-sided war where our options
are severely limited,'' said a U.S. official, who wasn't
authorized to speak publicly on the matter. ``We know we need
a partner on the ground. We can't defeat ISIL without that
part of the equation, so we keep trying to forge those
relationships.'' ISIL is an acronym for Islamic State.
President Obama this month authorized a new Pentagon plan
to train and arm Syrian rebel fighters, relaunching a program
that was suspended in the fall after a string of embarrassing
setbacks which included recruits being ambushed and handing
over much of their U.S.-issued ammunition and trucks to an Al
Qaeda affiliate.
Amid the setbacks, the Pentagon late last year deployed
about 50 special operations forces to Kurdish-held areas in
northeastern Syria to better coordinate with local militias
and help ensure U.S.-backed rebel groups aren't fighting one
another. But such skirmishes have become routine.
Last year, the Pentagon helped create a new military
coalition, the Syrian Democratic Forces. The goal was to arm
the group and prepare it to take territory away from the
Islamic State in eastern Syria and to provide information for
U.S. airstrikes.
The group is dominated by Kurdish outfits known as People's
Protection Units or YPG. A few Arab units have joined the
force in order to prevent it from looking like an invading
Kurdish army, and it has received air-drops of weapons and
supplies and assistance from U.S. Special Forces.
Gen. Joseph Votel, now commander of U.S. Special Operations
Command and the incoming head of Central Command, said this
month that about 80 percent of the fighters in the Syrian
Democratic Forces were Kurdish. The U.S. backing for a
heavily Kurdish armed force has been a point of tension with
the Turkish government, which has a long history of crushing
Kurdish rebellions and doesn't want to see Kurdish units
control more of its southern border.
The CIA, meanwhile, has its own operations center inside
Turkey from which it has been directing aid to rebel groups
in Syria, providing them with TOW antitank missiles from
Saudi Arabian weapons stockpiles.
While the Pentagon's actions are part of an overt effort by
the U.S. and its allies against Islamic State, the CIA's
backing of militias is part of a separate covert U.S. effort
aimed at keeping pressure on the Assad government in hopes of
prodding the Syrian leader to the negotiating table.
At first, the two different sets of fighters were primarily
operating in widely separated areas of Syria--the Pentagon-
backed Syrian Democratic Forces in the northeastern part of
the country and the CIA-backed groups farther west. But over
the last several months, Russian airstrikes against anti-
Assad fighters in northwestern Syria have weakened them. That
created an opening which allowed the Kurdish-led groups to
expand their zone of control to the outskirts of Aleppo,
bringing them into more frequent conflict with the CIA-backed
outfits.
``Fighting over territory in Aleppo demonstrates how
difficult it is for the U.S. to manage these really localized
and in some cases entrenched conflicts,'' said Nicholas A.
Heras, an expert on the Syrian civil war at the Center for a
New American Security, a think tank in Washington.
``Preventing clashes is one of the constant topics in the
joint operations room with Turkey.''
Over the course of the Syrian civil war, the town of Marea
has been on the front line of Islamic State's attempts to
advance across Aleppo province toward the rest of northern
Syria.
On Feb. 18, the Syrian Democratic Forces attacked the town.
A fighter with the Suqour Al-Jabal brigade, a group with
links to the CIA, said intelligence officers of the U.S.-led
coalition fighting Islamic State know their group has clashed
with the Pentagon-trained militias.
``The MOM knows we fight them,'' he said, referring to the
joint operations center in southern Turkey, using an
abbreviation for its name in Turkish, Musterek Operasyon
Merkezi. ``We'll fight all who aim to divide Syria or harm
its people.'' The fighter spoke on condition of anonymity.
Marea is home to many of the original Islamist fighters who
took up arms against Assad during the Arab Spring in 2011. It
has long been a crucial way station for supplies and fighters
coming from Turkey into Aleppo.
``Attempts by Syrian Democratic Forces to take Marea was a
great betrayal and was viewed as a further example of a
Kurdish conspiracy to force them from Arab and Turkmen
lands,'' Heras said.
The clashes brought the U.S. and Turkish officials to
``loggerheads,'' he added. After diplomatic pressure from the
U.S., the militia withdrew to the outskirts of the town as a
sign of good faith, he said.
But continued fighting among different U.S.-backed groups
may be inevitable, experts on the region said.
``Once they cross the border into Syria, you lose a
substantial amount of control or ability to control their
actions,'' Jeffrey White, a former Defense Intelligence
Agency official, said in a telephone interview. ``You
certainly have the potential for it becoming a larger problem
as people fight for territory and control of the northern
border area in Aleppo.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Florida (Mrs. Luna), a veteran and also a military spouse of one of our brave patriots who fought in Syria.
Mr. Speaker, may I inquire as to my remaining time.
Mr. Speaker, I would ask my colleagues how many more remaining speakers they have and are they prepared to close?
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, much of the discussion today has revolved around whether or not withdrawing from Syria will ignite some new ISIS caliphate. We have pointed out time and again to inspector general reports saying that is unlikely.
I am not entirely sure that our having troops in Syria deters ISIS more than it is a recruiting tool for ISIS.
Moreover, President Trump said that if Russia wanted to kill ISIS, then we should let them. I think there is wisdom in that.
Both Assad and Turkiye are in stronger positions today to put downward pressure on ISIS. Maybe if we weren't giving weapons to people shooting at Assad, then Assad would have every incentive to be able to engage ISIS in a way to ensure that it doesn't come back.
We have to also acknowledge Syria and Iraq are the two countries on the planet Earth where we have done the most to fund ISIS. We give weapons to these so-called moderate rebels--which I actually thought was an oxymoron--and it turns out that they are not so moderate. Sometimes the rebels we fund to go fight Assad turn around and raise the ISIS flag.
So it is quite silly to be saying we have to withdraw to stop ISIS when it is our very presence in Syria in some cases that has been the best gift to ISIS.
There are groups like al-Nusra and associated entities that are like our frenemies when they are in Syria, and then they cross over the border into Iraq and they become full-fledged jihadists posing a so- called threat to the homeland. There are 1,500 different groups in Syria, so today's friend is tomorrow's ISIS.
There is no real clear delineation as to what the enduring defeat of ISIS means.
Do we have to keep 900 Americans in Syria until the last heartbeat stops of the last person who holds some sympathy for ISIS?
I would certainly hope not. It would mean we would have to be there forever.
Israel has made their deal with Russia to be protected, the Kurds have made their peace with Assad to be protected, and what we see among this quagmire is that there is really not a role for the United States of America in Syria.
We are not a Middle Eastern power. We have tried this time and again to build a democracy out of sand, blood, and Arab militias, and time and again the work we do does not reduce chaos. Oftentimes it causes chaos, the very chaos that then subsequently leads to terrorism.
My colleagues and my staff who have served in Syria and my constituents tell me that often these anti-ISIS raids are just raids of local thugs and drug dealers who have some cousin that is in ISIS, and it is not appropriate to put Americans at risk.
Often our Americans are guarding these oil fields where the Iranians are sending Kamikaze drones, and I am shocked that we have not had escalatory accidents or even more casualties for our U.S. servicemembers.
So if this is all one big Georgetown School of Foreign Service essay exam about great power competition in Syria, then you go tell that to the parents of the Americans who have to sleep tonight in Syria, and who have to guard oil fields with Iranian drones coming at them, that they are necessary to preserve the balance of power. That is not true.
The Kurds have an opportunity to pave their path. Let's pave ours. And if we are so worried about threats to the homeland, how about we actually focus on our true point of vulnerability, which is not the emergence of some caliphate, it is the fact that terrorists are crossing our southern border on a daily, weekly, and monthly basis. We seem far less concerned about that than we undeniably should be.
Mr. Speaker, I ask my colleagues to support this resolution to reassert Congress' power to speak on these matters of war and peace. So often we come to the floor and we debate frivolities. This is one of the most important things we can be talking about: how we use the credibility of our fellow Americans, how we spend America's treasure, and how we spill the blood of our bravest patriots.
We have stained the deserts in the Middle East with enough American blood. It is time to bring our servicemembers home.
Mr. Speaker, I encourage my colleagues to support the resolution, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.