Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, today, we will consider the creation of a new subcommittee here in the House that Republicans call the Select Subcommittee on the…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, today, we will consider the creation of a new subcommittee here in the House that Republicans call the Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government. I call it the McCarthy committee, and I am not talking about Kevin. I am talking about Joe.
Mr. Speaker, this committee is nothing more than a deranged ploy by the MAGA extremists who have hijacked the Republican Party and now want to use taxpayer money to push their far-right conspiracy nonsense.
Let's start with the subcommittee's mandate, which is recklessly broad.
Speaker McCarthy is essentially handing Mr. Jordan the power to target anyone and anything he doesn't like, anything and anyone he deems unconstitutional, illegal, or unethical.
Who decides what is unconstitutional, illegal, or unethical? Mr. Jordan does.
Why don't we just be blunt here? Republicans claim to care about law enforcement, but this new committee is about attacking law enforcement. It is about going after people. It is about destroying people's careers and lives. It is about undermining the Department of Justice, defunding the police, and settling scores on behalf of the twice-impeached and disgraced former occupant of the Oval Office.
The MAGA extremist fringe of the Republican Party will use this committee to push QAnon conspiracy theories and lies from Truth Social. They are going to use it to gin up fake investigations into nonexistent scandals. I think we need to just start calling this the tinfoil hat committee.
Speaker McCarthy even changed the language at the last minute to provide unprecedented authority for the subcommittee to interfere in ongoing criminal investigations.
Let me repeat: The Republican Party, the party that claims to care about law and order, has created a committee not just to defund the police based on their wacky conspiracy theories, but to actually try to shut down ongoing investigations, including into domestic terrorists, phony electors, insurrectionists, people who are on trial for sedition because they tried to overthrow the government, and even disgraced former President Donald Trump.
This is outrageous. We are a country of laws, but this committee seeks to undermine the law, undermine the police, and make a complete mockery of the investigative and oversight powers of the House.
As seen on this week's Sunday shows, some sitting Republicans being investigated right now by the FBI and the Department of Justice want to serve on this committee.
I mean, what? I mean, come on. Give me a break. I know my Republican friends have some ethically challenged members who asked for pardons from the former President, but this is beyond the pale. This is unconscionable. This is a conflict of interest.
First, they gut the Office of Congressional Ethics. Now, they give Members of Congress the ability to investigate and to try to shut down criminal investigations that they are subjects in. One set of rules for the American people, another set of rules for Republican Members of Congress. It is incredibly offensive.
On their first real week in the majority, this is what my Republican friends are pushing through? Not a bill to fight inflation. Not a bill to raise wages for people. A bill for Republican Members of Congress to shut down investigations into their own wrongdoings. What is wrong with these people?
On top of all of that, this subcommittee expects to use the power of the subpoena to advance their delusional QAnon conspiracy theories and harass Federal law enforcement agents.
I would say it is almost comical if it wasn't so disturbing that Speaker McCarthy and Mr. Jordan refused to comply with bipartisan subpoenas issued by the January 6th Committee. So I guess for them, it is do as I say, not as I do.
In my mind, it speaks volumes that House Republicans are choosing to prioritize this kind of dangerous partisan garbage instead of actually trying to help everyday Americans.
Whatever happened to Republicans' commitment to America? They promised to tackle inflation, end the opioid crisis, reduce the national debt, and more. None of those issues are addressed in their first 12 bills.
In fact, the very first bill they passed last night doesn't reduce the deficit, it adds $114 billion to the deficit by making it easier for billionaires to cheat on their taxes.
This is where we are week 2 of the 118th Congress, and we are creating a witch-hunt committee where Republicans plan to air their grievances and further incite crazy fringe conspiracy theories from the internet at the taxpayers' expense.
Senator Joseph McCarthy would be very proud of what Republicans are doing today. Putting their own personal power and partisan politics over the needs of the American people. Just like Senator McCarthy looking for imaginary communists, they are going to find QAnon conspiracies everywhere they look because that is what they want to find.
Just like the McCarthy committee, this will become another shameful, disgraceful moment for the Congress of the United States.
This has nothing to do with the rule of law, nothing to do with proper oversight of government. It is simply about revenge. It is about disrupting and destroying rather than collaborating and creating. It is about putting politics over people instead of putting people over politics to build a better future for America.
This subcommittee is an awful idea, and I urge my colleagues, in the strongest possible terms, to vote ``no'' on this monstrosity that will further empower the extremists at the expense of the American people.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record an article from The Hill titled: ``January 6 panel names six House GOP lawmakers who asked for pardons.''
[From The Hill, June 23, 2022]
Jan. 6 Panel Names Six House GOP Lawmakers Who Asked for Pardons
(By Mychael Schnell and Emily Brooks)
The Jan. 6 committee investigating the attack on the
Capitol revealed Thursday that at least a half-dozen
Republican lawmakers asked for presidential pardons for their
role in voting to overturn election results in certain states
on Jan. 6, 2021, according to testimony from former Trump
aides.
Testimony from Trump aides named Reps. Matt Gaetz (Fla.) Mo
Brooks (Ala.) Louie Gohmert (Texas), Andy Biggs (Ariz.), and
Scott Perry (PA.) as seeking pardons.
An aide also said that Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (Ga.)
contacted the White House Counsel's office seeking a pardon.
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.), a member of the panel who
played an elevated role in Thursday's proceedings, presented
an email from Brooks, dated Jan. 11, 2021, in which the
congressman asked for presidential pardons for himself,
Gaetz, and lawmakers who objected to the Electoral College
vote for Arizona and Pennsylvania.
``President Trump asked me to send you this letter. This
letter is also pursuant to a request from Matt Gaetz,'' the
email reads.
``As such, I recommend that President give general (all
purpose) pardons to the following groups of people:,'' the
email adds. ``Every Congressman and Senator who voted to
reject the electoral vote submission of Arizona and
Pennsylvania.''
A spokesman for Brooks forwarded a full copy of the email,
which included a concern that Democrats would ``abuse
America's judicial system by targeting numerous Republicans
with sham charges.''
``The email request says it all. There was a concern
Democrats would abuse the judicial system by prosecuting and
jailing Republicans who acted pursuant to their
Constitutional or statutory duties under 3 USC 15,'' Brooks
said in a statement. ``Fortunately, with time passage, more
rational forces took over and no one was persecuted for
performing their lawful duties, which means a pardon was
unnecessary after all.''
The panel also showed a video of former special assistant
to the president Cassidy Hutchinson, saying Gaetz and Brooks
``both advocated for there to be a blanket pardon'' for
members of Congress involved with a meeting that took place
on Dec. 21, 2020, presumably the huddle at the White House
that focused on overturning the 2020 presidential election.
She also said Gaetz and Brooks advocated for a blanket
pardon for ``a handful of other members that weren't at the
Dec. 21 meeting.'' Those were meant to be ``preemptive
pardons,'' she noted.
Additionally, Hutchinson said ``Gaetz was personally
pushing for a pardon, and he was doing so since early
December,'' but said she did not know why.
Gaetz reached out to Hutchinson asking for a meeting with
Meadows ``about receiving a presidential pardon,'' according
to her closed-door testimony presented at Thursday's hearing.
Hutchinson said Biggs, Gohmert and Perry also asked for
pardons, but did not reveal more details.
And she said Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), a fierce defender of
Trump, ``talked about congressional pardons, but he never
asked me for one,'' noting that he was largely inquiring
about whether or not the White House was going to grant the
lawmaker pardons.
Brooks, Biggs, Perry and Jordan were all issued subpoenas
by the select committee in May.
Perry previously denied that he asked for a pardon, and
stood by that in light of new testimony.
``I stand by my statement that I never sought a
Presidential pardon for myself or other Members of Congress.
At no time did I speak with Miss Hutchinson, a White House
scheduler, nor any White House staff about a pardon for
myself or any other Member of Congress--this never
happened,'' Perry said in a statement.
A spokesman for Perry previously denied that he asked for a
pardon, calling it ``laughable, ludicrous, and a thoroughly
soulless lie.''
In a statement Thursday night, Gohmert said he requested
pardons for U.S. service members and military contractors--
not himself.
He called the claim that he requested a pardon for himself
``malicious, despicable and unfit for a U.S. Congressional
hearing.''
``I requested pardons for brave U.S. service members and
military contractors who were railroaded by the justice
system due to superiors playing politics, as well as a
civilian leader who was also wronged by a despicable
injustice,'' Gohmert said. ``These requests were all far
prior to, and completely unrelated to January 6.''
Biggs also objected to the committee's assertion that he
sought a parton, writing in a statement Thursday night that
Hutchinson ``is mistaken.''
He said the testimony of Hutchinson discussing the pardons
was ``deceptively edited to make it appear as if I personally
asked for her a presidential pardon.''
Greene, Hutchinson said, did not contact her directly, but
she said she had heard that Greene contacted the White House
Counsel's office for a pardon.
Greene pushed back on the testimony in a tweet, but did not
directly deny asking for a pardon.
``Saying `I heard' means you don't know,'' Greene said.
``Spreading gossip and lies is exactly what the January 6th
Witch Hunt Committee is all about.''
Eric Herschmann, a former Trump White House attorney, was
also asked by the Jan. 6 committee in a deposition if Gaetz
was seeking a pardon.
``Believe so,'' Herschmann said in a video presented at the
hearing. ``The general tone was, `we may get prosecuted
because we were defensive of, you know, the President's
positions on these things.''
Herschmann said that Gaetz's pardon request was ``for any
and all things,'' and that Gaetz had mentioned former
President Richard Nixon's pardon. Herschmann said that
Nixon's pardon was not that broad.
Trump adviser John McEntee also testified that Gaetz told
him he asked Meadows for a pardon.
A spokesman for Gaetz responded to testimony about the
pardon request by pointing to a tweet from Gaetz calling the
committee a ``political sideshow.''
Mr. Speaker, there were at least six House Members who sought pardons from President Trump following the January 6 insurrection, and many of them would like to be on this committee, we are told.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Nadler).
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record a CNN article titled: ``There are clear distinctions between Trump and Biden's two cases.''
[From CNN Politics, Jan. 10, 2023]
There Are Clear Distinctions Between Trump and Biden's Two
Cases
(By Stephen Collinson)
Republicans seized on revelations that several classified
documents from Joe Biden's time as vice president were found
in his former private office to create cover for former
President Donald Trump's hoarding of secret records.
The disclosures Monday about the material found last fall
spun up an immediate political storm at a time when Trump is
in increasing legal peril. The new GOP House majority is
meanwhile rushing to undermine investigations against him and
unleashing a wave of counter investigations against the
current president.
But there are clear distinctions between the two cases.
The new controversy so far appears to be on a smaller scale
than the more than 100 classified documents--some bearing the
highest designations of government secrecy--taken from
Trump's resort at Mar-a-Lago after a court-approved search by
FBI agents. And Biden appears to be cooperating with the
National Archives and the Justice Department in a way that
Trump failed to do and unlike the former president he is not
being investigated for possible obstruction of justice.
But Trump, who brands attempts to make him face
accountability for his conduct in office and afterward as
political victimization, sought to capitalize on Biden's
discomfort over the documents in a post on his Truth Social
network.
``When is the FBI going to raid the many homes of Joe
Biden, perhaps even the White House? These documents were
definitely not declassified,'' he wrote.
New House Oversight Chairman James Comer told CNN: ``This
is (a) further concern that there is a two-tiered justice
system.''
New House Speaker Kevin McCarthy also moved quickly to
respond to the discovery of the documents in an office used
by Biden after he left the vice presidency.
``Oh, really? They just now found them after all these
years,'' he told CNN. ``What has he said about the other
president having classified documents?''
Attorney General Merrick Garland has asked the US attorney
in Chicago to review the material, some of which bore the
marking ``sensitive compartmentalized information''--showing
that it came from intelligence sources.
Questions Biden must face
Fairness and respect for the law dictate that Biden should
answer many of the same questions that Trump is facing,
regarding whether he was entitled to the records, why they
were not previously turned over, whether they were securely
stored and how they ended up in his office in the first
place.
Critics will also wonder why Biden didn't immediately
disclose the discovery of less than a dozen documents last
fall to the public, given the huge sensitivity of the Justice
Department probe of Trump on a similar question. And the
president will be sure to face accusations of hypocrisy given
his sharp criticisms that Trump did not take the proper steps
to secure classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.
Still, even if there are adequate answers to these issues,
any distinctions in the severity of the Biden and Trump
documents will be obliterated in the political torrent that
is already stirring and with conservative media likely to
draw false equivalencies between the two cases.
The report offers an immediate opening for Trump as he
seeks to dodge culpability for his behavior and claims he's a
victim of persecution to thwart his 2024 campaign. The former
president is a master at turning one incident into an entire
campaign narrative--as he did with former Democratic nominee
Hillary Clinton's emails in 2016.
And the report will give the new Republican House majority
fresh material as it unleashes a multi-front investigative
assault against the White House. And while there so far
appear to be clear differences in the magnitude of the cases,
the report--first carried by CBS--about Biden will inevitably
raise political pressure on Special Counsel Jack Smith's
investigation into Trump's retention of classified material.
Smith is also now reaching even deeper into the ex-
president's inner circle by subpoenaing his former lawyer
Rudy Giuliani as part of a federal grand jury probe looking
at Trump's fund raising, among other issues related to the
2020 election.
Garland's dilemma
The Biden document disclosures will also deepen the already
intense political headache facing Garland as he contemplates
an eventual decision on whether to charge Trump, whose status
as an ex-president and an active 2024 candidate carries huge
political implications.
Garland insists that investigations will go where the
evidence and the law demands as he seeks to stress the
independence of the Justice Department--which was perpetually
in question when Trump was president. But now, inevitably and
however the Biden vice presidential documents issue is
resolved, a decision to charge Trump over the classified
documents case but not to take the same action against Biden
would incite political uproar among conservatives who would
be sure to allege double standards.
The former president's legal team issued a temperate
response to the Biden report that sought to broaden openings
that could shield their client. One lawyer said that the
Biden story was ``indicative of a larger problem with trying
to keep track of classified information in the offices of the
President and the VP. There is an over classification
problem, and at the end of an Administration, things get
packed up and moved and it's hard to keep track.''
The lawyer also warned that if Trump were to be charged,
his representatives would demand all communications between
the National Archives and Biden's team on the matter.
The Biden discovery
Biden's attorneys found the documents in a locked closet in
a private office in Washington the future president used as a
visiting professor with the University of Pennsylvania. The
White House Counsel's office notified the National Archives
and officials at the agency took control of the documents the
morning after they were found. Biden wasn't aware the
documents were in the office until his personal lawyers
reported their existence and remains in the dark of the
content of the material, a source familiar with the matter
told CNN. Federal office holders are required by law to
relinquish official documents and classified documents when
their government service ends.
Unlike in Trump's case, Biden doesn't appear to have tried
to assert ownership of the files, to obstruct their handover
or make outlandish claims that he had previously declassified
them based on an undisclosed private thought.
Trump is being investigated by Smith to see whether he
infringed the Espionage Act by keeping classified material
and for the possible obstruction of justice.
Republicans muster for investigative assault on White House
The Biden documents case will intensify the showdown
already emerging between the new Republican House majority
and the White House.
For two years, Trump has been rocked by blow-after-blow
from congressional and criminal probes over his conduct
during and after his presidency that have nudged him ever
closer to accountability.
But help is on the way.
The new Republican majority in the House is ready to
unleash a vast investigative machine apparently designed to
discredit and distract from Trump's alleged transgressions
and to wound Biden's nascent reelection race.
Such an offensive was always coming, given the extent to
which the deeply conservative House GOP remains in thrall to
the
ex-president. But the intensity, scope and financial muscle
of the investigations was bolstered by the concessions
offered by McCarthy as he caved to right-wing hardliners in
order to win his speakership last week. And it represents a
fast-expanding challenge for the White House, which has
already spent months preparing its defense.
A new House rules package passed on Monday for instance
will set up probes into alleged political bias in agencies
like the FBI and the Justice Department and what Republicans
see as political weaponization of such agencies.
The move cements the GOP's sharp turn away from the FBI,
once seen as one of the most conservative agencies in the US
government following Trump's repeated claims he was illegally
targeted by investigations and his failure to enlist the
bureau as a weapon to advance his political grievances.
Rigorous scrutiny and oversight are inevitable and
desirable as part of the constitutional duty of Congress and
responsibility to ensure accountability with taxpayer money.
And in the first two years of the Biden administration, there
are multiple questions that merit further investigation and
over which the public deserves more clarity.
This includes the chaotic management of the withdrawal from
Afghanistan in 2021, the way that Covid-19 mitigation funds
were spent or the administration's unwillingness at least
until recently to consider the rising numbers of migrants
crossing the southern border as a crisis. Proper oversight
can avoid the repeat of errors and inform better policy in
future.
But as always in Congress, there are questions over when
genuine oversight stops and hyper-partisan politically
motivated witch hunts begin, especially in the case of key
Republicans who have a long record of crossing over the line.
Incoming House Judiciary Chairman Rep Jim Jordan, for
instance, was a leading player in a previous investigation by
a GOP House into the death of US ambassador to Libya Chris
Stevens and three other Americans who were killed by Islamic
militants in Benghazi in 2012.
The two-year GOP-run House probe found a perfect storm of
bureaucratic inertia, rapidly worsening security in Libya and
inadequate resources led up to the killings. But Jordan was
not satisfied when the final report did not bear out
conservative attacks on the conduct of Hillary Clinton--who
was Secretary of State at the time of the deaths.
The Ohio lawmaker released his own far more critical
report, along with then Rep. Mike Pompeo, who later became
Secretary of State himself. And at the time, McCarthy boasted
that the investigation harmed Clinton's 2016 presidential
campaign, apparently revealing partisan motivations behind
the probe.
As well as the building storm over classified documents, a
key focus of the new GOP House majority will be to
investigate the House Select Committee in the previous
Democratic-run House that painted a damning picture of
Trump's behavior following the 2020 election and before the
Capitol insurrection.
The fact that many of the current members of the House
voted to deny certification of Biden's election victory based
on lies about electoral fraud Trump was using to try to steal
power underscores why many observers are raising new
questions about the partisan nature of Republican
investigations.
But after the revelations about documents found in Biden's
office, Republicans know a political gift when they see it.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the difference is clear. Unlike in Trump's case, Biden doesn't appear to have tried to assert ownership of the files to obstruct their handover or make unhinged claims that he had previously declassified them through his thinking. Trump is being investigated to see whether he infringed the Espionage Act by keeping classified material and for the possible obstruction of justice.
I would just say to my colleague who spoke before, the American people also have expectations of elected officials, such as respecting the Constitution and respecting free and fair elections and not trying to overturn free and fair elections. Unfortunately, a majority of my friends on the other side of the aisle chose to ignore that.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Goldman).
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record an article from The Guardian titled: `` `It's going to be dirty': Republicans gear up for attack on Hunter Biden,'' and an article from Politico titled: ``It's not just Hunter Biden: Prepare for a 2023 packed with House GOP investigations.''
[From the Guardian, Jan. 8, 2023]
`It's Going To Be Dirty': Republicans Gear Up for Attack on Hunter
Biden
(By David Smith)
When Borat--alias British actor Sacha Baron Cohen--told
risque jokes about Donald Trump and antisemitism at last
month's Kennedy Center Honors in Washington, Joe Biden was
not the only one laughing in a red velvet-lined balcony.
Sitting behind the US president was Hunter Biden wearing
black tie and broad smile that mirrored those of his father.
The image captured the intimacy between the men but also
the sometimes awkward status of Hunter as both private
citizen and privileged son of a president. It is a dichotomy
likely to come under a harsh public glare this year as
congressional Republicans set about making Hunter a household
name and staple of the news cycle.
``The right wing is licking its chops at the chance to go
after him,'' said Joshua Kendall, author of First Dads:
Parenting and Politics from George Washington to Barack
Obama. ``The level of venom is going to be over the top and
really, really dirty. The Republicans' rhetoric might get so
heated that it detracts from some of the actual behaviour.''
Republicans have been waiting a long time for this moment.
After regaining control of the House of Representatives in
last November's midterm elections, they used their first
press conference to promise to investigate the Biden
administration and, in particular, the president's allegedly
errant son.
Hunter has long faced questions about whether he traded on
his father's political career for profit, including efforts
to strike deals in China and reported references in his
emails to the ``big guy''.
Hunter joined the board of the Ukrainian gas company
Burisma in 2014, around the time that Joe Biden, then vice-
president, was helping conduct Barack Obama's foreign policy
with Ukraine. Hunter earned more than $50,000 a month over a
five-year period.
Senate Republicans claim that his appointment may have
posed a conflict of interest. Last year more than 30 of them
called for a prosecutor to be given special counsel authority
to carry out an investigation into alleged ``tax fraud, money
laundering, and foreign-lobbying violations''. But they have
not produced evidence that it influenced US policy or that
Joe Biden engaged in wrongdoing.
House Republicans and their staff have been studying
messages and financial transactions found on a now notorious
laptop that
belonged to Hunter. Having gained the majority, they now have
the power to issue congressional subpoenas to foreign
entities that did business with him.
Richard Painter, who was chief White House ethics lawyer in
the George W Bush administration, believes that Joe Biden
should have recused himself from matters relating to Ukraine.
``The Ukrainian gas company wanted to curry favour with Joe
Biden so they put his son on the board,'' he said.
``It's pretty clear what's going on there but the missing
link the Republicans are looking for--but I don't think
they're going to find--is any kind of a quid pro quo, Joe
Biden for the Ukrainian gas company. Still, it would have
been better if Joe Biden had said: `Look, my son is going to
be on this board, maybe the secretary of state or somebody
else could handle Ukraine,' and he'd step aside.''
Hunter's taxes and foreign business work are already under
federal investigation with a grand jury in Delaware hearing
testimony in recent months. There are no indications that
this involves the president, who insists that he has never
spoken to Hunter about his foreign business arrangements.
Republicans are pulling at another strand. Ethics experts
have accused Hunter of cashing in on his father's name as he
pursues a career as an artist. He is represented by the
Georges Berges Gallery in New York, which reportedly struck
an agreement with the White House to set the prices of the
art and not reveal who bid on or bought it.
Berges said in an lnstagram post in November that
Republicans on the House oversight committee had written to
him with ``certain requests'' and subsequently got into a
Twitter debate with Painter about money and influence in art.
Berges wrote: ``If you're going to scrutinize a profession
then scrutinize all of them and every position that children
of Congress take in DC and elsewhere.''
Painter said in an interview: ``I don't think there's
anything corrupt about the White House or anything corrupt
about President Biden. But keeping the identities of the art
buyers secret was a bad idea. It leads to suspicion that
people are passing money under the table. It's hard to keep
who buys the art secret in the close-knit world of Hunter
Biden's friends or Hunter Biden himself so the secrecy was a
bad idea.''
Fox News and other rightwing media may relish an
opportunity to demonise the president's son ahead of an
election in 2024. But Republicans are in danger of overreach.
Trump's attempt to get Ukraine to examine Hunter's business
dealings led to his first impeachment. His efforts to
weaponise Hunter's troubles in the 2020 presidential election
fizzled.
David Brock, a veteran political operative and president of
Facts First USA, a new group set up to combat the
congressional investigations, said: ``What we're going to see
in the hearings is a recycling and a rehash of old
discredited stories and conspiracy theories. They're doing it
for political reasons. [Congressman] Jim Jordan is on the
record saying that the investigations are all about 2024 and
electing Donald Trump again. That's his own words, not
mine.''
Hunter's 2021 memoir, Beautiful Things, generated sympathy
in some quarters for a man who 50 years ago last month
survived a car crash that killed his mother and sister and
who has been honest about his struggle with alcoholism and
drug abuse. Brock believes that a fresh Republican onslaught
will backfire.
``Going after someone who has an addiction and has had
mental health issues is sadistic politics and I don't think
it will work with the American people,'' he added. ``There
are so many people who have family members who've suffered in
one way or another and will identify with Hunter; they won't
identify with the attackers. The Hunter-hating narrative has
been out there for three years. It hasn't really gained any
traction outside of the far right and I don't think it
will.''
Republicans could also lose credibility by focusing on
Hunter and other retreads of the past instead of advancing a
plan for domestic issues such as inflation, jobs and taxes.
Kurt Bardella, a Democratic strategist who served as a
senior adviser for Republicans on the House oversight
committee from 2009 to 2013, said: ``For all the talk about
Republicans saying they want to return to regular order, they
want to have better stewardship over taxpayer dollars, they
want to act more responsibly with legislative power, well,
OK, but how does investigating Hunter Biden do anything to
help the American people?''
Mr. Speaker, without a doubt, Mr. Jordan will use this subcommittee to go after people MAGA extremists see as their opponents. All the MAGA Republicans seem to want to do is create a forum for settling scores and pushing conspiracy theories. They are not interested in governing.
They want to go on FOX. They want to investigate Hunter Biden's laptop. They want to try to steal elections. They want to shut down the government if they don't get their way.
We are at a very dangerous moment in this country, and it is one of the reasons why many of us were so stunned that the new Speaker gave away so much of his authority to a group of extremists in the Republican Conference who have spent their entire careers trying to blow this place up.
The bottom line is this committee is basically an assurance that we are going to see these very partisan, political, MAGA-driven investigations go forward.
Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to vote ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Grijalva).
Mr. Speaker, here is a curious thing. The legislation that creates this select committee, we were first given this on January 2. Then, it changed on January 6, and we didn't get that until 10 p.m. on January 6, after 13 Speaker votes.
What changed in this legislation--and this is really curious--is they expanded the select committee's authority to investigate ongoing criminal investigations--think about that--in an unprecedented way.
I don't know how many votes that got, but clearly, it was important enough because we went through 13 Speaker votes before we got to this.
The reason why this is included, and I am sad to say this, is because we have Members in this Chamber who themselves may be subjects of investigation. There are ongoing investigations against the former President. So, this was added.
Why was this added? To try to frustrate those investigations.
When we talk about corruption, when we talk about undermining the rule of law, let's understand what just occurred here.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Schiff).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Johnson).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson Lee).
Mr. Speaker, I yield an additional 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Texas.
Mr. Speaker, I would simply say in response to that that there are oversight committees that are equipped and ready to look into all the issues that the gentleman just raised, and into all the conspiracy theories that they want to raise. But they went ahead and created this additional committee, and there is a reason for it.
This new committee they are creating has the authority to basically investigate ongoing criminal investigations. It is unprecedented.
In any event, I would remind the gentleman, you have oversight committees. You are in charge now; you can do whatever you want to do.
But there is a reason for this committee and there is a reason why after 13 roll call votes for Speakership they added an additional line giving this committee the authority to look into ongoing investigations.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, the gentleman just got up and made all kinds of assertions that things were just said that weren't said. I don't know what the hell he is talking about.
Mr. Speaker, I will, again, urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' against the creation of that committee because this is unprecedented. This is a witch hunt. This is a committee designed basically to protect those who, quite frankly, are under investigation right now.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, let me just make this clear for my colleague. A change was made in this legislation, and it was not just to allow the committee to investigate ongoing criminal investigations which is quite nefarious in and of itself.
Originally it was only supposed to be able to have investigative authority over the Department of Justice, DHS, and the FBI; the CIA and the IRS were added. This was all done after 13 Speaker votes at 10 o'clock at night clearly in an attempt to win more votes.
The people who are asking for these changes are the same people who want to investigate the people who are investigating them.
This is really, really unprecedented. I don't know what the hell is going on here, but this isn't right. This isn't openness, and this isn't transparency.
My friends talk about corruption. This is corruption. This is unacceptable. The American people ought to know it, and reasonable colleagues on the Republican side ought to say no to this.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I would say what the gentleman just said is terrible, but this committee has absolutely nothing to do with that.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I would just say in response to the gentleman who said that he hopes that we populate this select committee with serious Democrats that he populate the committee with Republicans who did not ask for a pardon and who did not have their phones seized by the FBI.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record an article from The Hill titled: ``Perry won't agree to stay off new House committee investigating January 6 probes.''
[From The Hill, Jan. 8, 2023]
Perry Won't Agree To Stay Off New House Committee Investigating Jan. 6
Probes
(By Julia Mueller)
Rep. Scott Perry (R-Pa.) on Sunday wouldn't pledge to stay
off the possible new House committee that would investigate
probes into the Jan. 6, 2021, attack at the U.S. Capitol
despite being a subject of a Department of Justice (DOJ)
inquiry into the matter.
``Why should I be limited--why should anybody be limited--
just because someone has made an accusation? Everybody in
America is innocent until proven guilty,'' Perry said on
ABC's ``This Week.''
Host George Stephanopoulos pressed Perry, asking, ``Doesn't
that pose a conflict to you, since you're also part of the
investigation?''
``So, should everybody in Congress that disagrees with
somebody be barred from doing the oversight and investigative
powers that Congress has? That's our charge. And again,
that's appropriate for every single member, regardless of
what accusations are made. I get accused of things every
single day, as does every member that serves in the public
eye,'' Perry countered.
Newly elected Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) has
indicated the Republican majority just sworn in plans to
review the work of the House select committee that last year
probed Jan. 6 and look into the federal investigations.
DOJ investigations seized Perry's phone in connection with
the rioting, and obtained email exchanges between Perry and
former Trump attorney John Eastman, among others.
Perry also introduced former President Trump to Jeffrey
Clark, whom Trump considered appointing as attorney general
in order to propagate his claims of election fraud during the
2020 presidential contest.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, the American people want us to roll up our sleeves and get to work. They want us to make progress and deliver results that help them in their day-to-day lives.
They don't need Congress to bend and break to the will of MAGA extremists, and they definitely don't need us to push crazy conspiracy theories and go on witch hunts to settle political scores.
My friends in their rules package gutted the Office of Congressional Ethics, and here they are with this new subcommittee which threatens our safety, our security, and our freedom.
It is an unprecedented attack on our Nation's law enforcement agencies, our justice system, and our intelligence community.
Mr. Speaker, I would just say to my colleagues who spoke before about the intelligence oversight, we have an entire Select Committee on Intelligence that has oversight responsibilities on those matters. I am sorry the gentleman who spoke doesn't have confidence in whom the Republicans are going to propose as chair.
This committee is deranged. It is a bad idea, and it will go down in history as one of the worst committees that a Congress has ever put forward. It will be in the same category as the Joseph McCarthy Committee on Un-American Activities or the Benghazi Committee which now Speaker McCarthy admitted was an attempt to try to take down Secretary Clinton.
But here is the deal, and here is what it is all about: There are six on the other side of the aisle who asked for a pardon from President Trump. They did his dirty work, but Trump left them hanging. He did not give them a pardon. So now they are effectively trying to pardon themselves with the creation of this select committee.
This is unconscionable. It is so blatant. Again, the changes that were made to give them the ability to pardon themselves were done after the 13th Speaker vote in the dead of night to try to win their votes over.
This is not the way this Congress should run. This is not the way Republicans or Democrats, or any majority should behave. People should be ashamed of themselves that this is in the rules package and that this is what my friends are pushing right now.
We are better than this. We should not be going down this road. My friends said that they want to combat inflation and that they want to make the lives of the American people better. Let's focus on those things. Let's focus on areas that actually improve the lives of the American people. This is a colossal waste of time. But even worse, it is to me the epitome of what corruption is all about.
Mr. Speaker, I urge a ``no'' vote, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.