Mr. President, another day is gone. The Senate has been unable to appoint conferees on the pension reform bill. I am terribly disappointed that is the case. Forty-four million American workers are covered by private sector pension plans.…
Mr. President, another day is gone. The Senate has been unable to appoint conferees on the pension reform bill. I am terribly disappointed that is the case.
Forty-four million American workers are covered by private sector pension plans. They need our help. They can only get help if we have a conference with the House, a bill comes back here,
and it is approved by both the House and the Senate. Forty-four million people would have peace of mind.
Senate Democrats are ready to go to conference now so we can produce a pension reform bill that will improve worker retirement security. Throughout this process, Democrats have worked with Republicans. This is truly a bipartisan effort to produce a bill that passed the Senate with 97 votes. It wasn't until we got into a position of appointing conferees that the majority decided to, for lack of a better description, play games.
I have to, frankly, say--I haven't had this job a long time--it has never happened during the time that I have been leader. I don't remember it happening during the time I was assistant leader for 6 years.
I don't know when the last time was that we had a prolonged dispute about how many people are going to be on a conference committee.
Why are we seeing this now? Perhaps they are trying to stack the deck in favor of downtown interests--I should say some downtown interests. We should give the opportunity to the Senate to stack the deck in favor of the 44 million workers and not a few special interests down on K Street.
Yesterday, the distinguished majority leader said, and I quote:
We have two committees with equal stakes in this bill, and
they should have an equal number of conferees in the
committee. The conference committee should fairly represent
the two committees of jurisdiction.
I agree. This is precisely why I proposed a conference of eight Republicans and six Democrats instead of seven Republicans and five Democrats.
Under my proposal, four Republicans and three Democrats can be appointed from the HELP Committee, and four Republicans and three Democrats could be appointed from the Finance Committee. Remember, these numbers give the majority a two-vote majority.
The proposal I suggested establishes equal and fair representation to the two committees but for the fact we have 55 Republicans and 45 Democrats. We have acknowledged they should have a two-vote majority in this conference. But it is fair, eight Republicans, six Democrats; eight Republicans representing the Committee on Finance and the HELP Committee, six Democrats representing the Committee on Finance and the HELP Committee. My proposal established equal and fair representation of the two committees--exactly what the leader said we need to accomplish so we can at least get the conference underway.
We are ready to go. It is puzzling when the majority leader refuses to take ``yes'' for an answer. The proposals put forward by the majority leader only add to this confusion. It appears that seven Republicans are okay, eight Republicans are not okay, nine Republicans are okay but only if they have, not a two-vote majority, but now a three-vote margin.
So what conclusions could be drawn? At least two could be drawn. First, the majority leader and his supporters downtown do not really care about the equal and fair representation; they only care about stacked representation. Second, and most unfortunately, they apparently care more about stacking the deck than they do about completing action on this vital piece of legislation.
Remember, whatever suggestion I have made, I don't change the majority of the Republicans. They have a two-vote majority. The majority leader has an opportunity to prove these words wrong. What am I saying? That they care more about stacking the deck than they do about completing this important legislation.
If the distinguished majority leader believes what he said yesterday, we can go to conference today with equal and fair representation from the HELP Committee and the Committee on Finance. If he does not accept this offer, it indicates he believes the lobbyists on K Street are more important than the workers on Main Street.
Yesterday, I listened to statements by Senators Baucus and Conrad, the Democratic ranking members on the Committee on Finance and Committee on the Budget. What they said speaks volumes on what is wrong with this administration. I have trouble comprehending how the majority ignores these huge deficits. They are there. They are piling up. Why? We vote to approve these deficits.
In the pay-as-you-go system, if someone wants to spend some money, you have to have an offset. Those rules have been abandoned by this administration and this Republican-dominated Congress. I don't understand this. I always had in my mind that the Republicans were fiscally concerned about the status of our economy. Obviously, that is not true.
President Bush is the most fiscally irresponsible President in the history of our country. No other President comes even close. When this administration came to office, the Federal debt was about $5 trillion. We were running large annual budget surpluses. We were paying down the debt.
Alan Greenspan, the recently departed Federal Reserve Chairman, expressed concern during the final year of President Clinton's administration that the public debt was being paid down so rapidly that it may cause a concern to the financial markets.
Over the last 5 years, rather than reducing the debt, our Nation has suffered record deficits and gone on an unprecedented and dangerous borrowing spree. Total debt now stands at over $8 trillion, and we are being asked to increase it by another $800 billion, which will last, some say, for no more than about a year.
Compounding matters, the President's most recent budget makes matters substantially worse, leading to a $12 trillion debt by the year 2011. That is just as the first wave of baby boomers begins to retire.
Not only is the debt exploding at the worst possible time, increasingly we are borrowing from foreigners--Dubai, China, Japan. Since this administration took office 5 years ago, our country has more than doubled its foreign debt, increasing such borrowing by over $1 trillion. That is more foreign debt than we accumulated in the first 224 years of this Republic.
During the last 3 years of the Clinton administration, we paid off $200 billion in foreign debt. We paid it off. Given the explosion of debt in recent years, it is long past time for Washington to change course and adopt a new fiscal policy. All we are asking is that people be concerned about the future of our economy. Our Nation is at stake.
I had the good fortune of being able to serve for a number of years in this Senate with Pat Moynihan, Daniel Pat Moynihan, who will go down in the history of this country as one of its most outstanding Senators. He served in Democratic Presidential administrations, Republican Presidential administrations. He was a man who had a great intellect. He served during World War II. He was a great patriot and a great intellect.
Before he died, he said that he believed all this debt which was being accumulated, all the tax cuts, were not to help the wealthy; they would starve Government because the programs that some people in this administration hate, such as Social Security, which the President wanted to privatize in the 1970s, Medicare and Medicaid and other such programs, could not be attacked on a frontal basis. They could not do it directly. So by starving the Government, that is what has happened. And the Government is being starved. The American people are being starved with this huge debt.
At a minimum, this is a matter which deserves considerable debate in the Senate and an opportunity for all Senators of both political parties to participate. Unfortunately, there is reason to believe that some on the other side are doing everything they can to squelch this.
My friend, the senior Senator of the Committee on Finance, Mr. Grassley, is reported to have said--not reported; he said it--that he would like the debt limit to be extended but ``with the least debate.'' According to one news story, he said, ``I would like to see a bill on Thursday night just prior to recess.'' Those are code words for saying: Let's jam this thing out of here. It appears that is what the leadership intends to do.
I got a letter in December from Secretary Snow saying that the country's debt limit is going to be exceeded, and to do something about it. During the holiday season, I got to this letter. It wasn't suddenly given to us. It appears to me we should be spending some time on this issue. But we are not; we just shove it under the rug. It is only another $800 billion of taxpayers' money,
most of which will be borrowed from foreign governments, with no debate, no amendments, no public scrutiny, with no accountability for the massive debt we are imposing on future generations of Americans. That is not how this Republic, that is not how this Senate is supposed to work. It is not how our great democracy is supposed to function. We should be inviting public input, not trying to hide what we are doing because people are embarrassed of public reaction. We shouldn't be jamming things through Congress for political expediency.
The chairman of the Committee on Finance has said to extend the debt limit ``with the least debate,'' and, ``I would like to see a bill on any Thursday night just prior to a recess.''
If the majority believes that increasing our debt by about $800 billion is the right thing to do, they should be upfront about it. They should explain why they think more debt is good. They should explain why they think it is fair to force our children, our grandchildren, and great grandchildren to pay higher taxes, why it is right to increase our Nation's dependence on foreign creditors. Let them try to defend that. Maybe they can convince the public they are right, but I don't think so because most Americans know that increasing the debt is wrong. The baby boomers are about to retire. Under the circumstances, as almost any credible economist would tell you, we should be reducing debt, not increasing it.
I am appreciative of Ranking Member Baucus and Ranking Member Conrad. We have sent a letter to the majority leader urging him to allow a thorough and open debate on any legislation to increase our debt. The letter says that before we approve hundreds of billions of dollars in additional borrowing, we should adopt reforms to reduce the need for more debt in the future. In particular, we should reinstate the pay-as- you-go rules that proved so effective in promoting fiscal discipline in the 1990s. That meant if you want a new program, pay for it, take it from someplace else. When you finish, there has been no new debt to this country. And to show the cynicism of what is going on around here, we have been debating for more than a year the Republican's deficit reduction bill--that is what they call it--which increases the debt.
We should not allow our Government to go deeper and deeper into debt without full and complete debate. We believe we should be more fiscally responsible. All this will do is create more fiscal irresponsibility. It will create higher taxes on our children and a weaker economy for future generations.
The American public will see whether this vote takes place in the dark of night or in broad daylight. They will see that Democrats are not going to vote to increase this debt. This debt has been generated by President Bush and his Republican Members of Congress, and $8.2 trillion is not enough. My good friends on the other side--all 55--will have to belly up to the bar and vote to increase the debt of this country by $800 billion, or whatever figure is chosen, because Democrats are not going to do this. The votes are going to have to come from the Republican Party. We are not going to support this irresponsible Government we have in America today.
How can you run a business like we are being run here? When the credit cards run out, you cannot borrow more money from the bank. Instead, you go out and find the money--you rob the American people. How could you run your home this way?
If I can no longer manage on my salary, I can no longer pay for the style of living we have, I talk to my wife and children and say: We will have to cut back on things.
Not here.
Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act
More than 9 months ago, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 810, the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act. It was one of the rare victories in the House for bipartisanship. I felt good about that. It was my hope we would embrace the same spirit of bipartisanship in the Senate and pass this legislation, as well. It offers so much hope to untold millions of Americans and their families, people who suffer from these dread diseases.
After the House passed the stem cell bill, I spoke with my friend, the majority leader, about the need to take up this crucial legislation as soon as possible. At that time, Dr. Frist assured me he would consider the bill in the Senate by July. That was last July.
By the end of July, the majority leader still had not found time to schedule debate on the stem cell bill, so I moved to take up and pass the House bill on the Senate floor. It was objected to by the majority, but Senator Frist and I admire him for this, Mr. President--delivered a speech the next day in which he expressed support for Federal funding for expanded embryonic stem cell research. That was not easy for him to do. I admire him for doing it, and I appreciate it. In the speech, Dr. Frist said that the potential of stem cell research to save lives and ease human suffering ``deserves our increased energy and focus.''
Now, Senator Frist is a surgeon, a transplant surgeon, one of the pioneers. When he started doing this transplant surgery, most people thought it was an experiment that was doomed to failure. I have spoken to Senator Frist. He personally would travel on little airplanes with a heart that had been taken out of one human being. He would take that heart and transplant it in another human being.
Now, since he did that, they have certainly come up with easier and better methods of transporting human hearts. But that is what he did. And he, coming from a different perspective than I, believes that stem cell research will save lives, it will help us, it will ease human suffering. I am not a scientist, but I believe that, also.
But after he gave this remarkable speech--and I know he received criticism from certain political folks--we returned from the August recess, and he still did not find time to debate this important legislation. He found time to do a lot of other things, like drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge. He found time for the Majority's budget, a budget that leaders of the faith-based community and major religious institutions said was immoral. He found time to give sweeping liability protections to the drug industry. But he could not find time to keep hope alive for millions of Americans counting on the promise of stem cell research.
In December of last year, the majority leader asked consent to take up and pass the House-passed cord blood bill. Now, we all supported the cord blood bill, but we did not want to do that because we wanted to consider the cord blood bill and the stem cell bill together. That is what the House did. But in an effort of bipartisanship and in an effort of hope and faith in the process here, we said go ahead and do that.
When we passed the cord blood bill, Senator Frist expressed his commitment to the stem cell bill, but he did not bring it to the floor. He asked the proponents of stem cell research to support his request to take up and pass the cord blood bill in exchange for a commitment to consider the stem cell bill early in the 2006 session.
At that time, Dr. Frist explained:
It is going to take some time that I will give on the floor
of the Senate early in the year and have committed to do so
because of its importance. It is important to address that in
order for that research to be amplified. Much of that
research needs to be amplified for cures that may occur 5 or
10 years down the road.
That is a statement from Dr. Bill Frist. Three months have gone by. We are now into March 2006 and still no time has been scheduled to consider the House-passed stem cell bill. We all know this is a short legislative year. We have less than 3 weeks remaining in the work of this period and a short work period in April. Before you know it, it will be May and an entire year will have passed since the House finished this bill.
Mr. President, recently I was in Las Vegas with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department SWAT team for a demonstration of their new mobile command center, which is really state of the art. When the demonstration was over, I saw a man in a wheelchair. I walked over and introduced myself and asked why he was in a wheelchair. He said: I was a motorcycle officer, and somebody ran a red light and hit me. He has been paralyzed from the waist down for 5 years. He said to me: You know--he grabbed his leg--I am getting a little bit of feeling. I hope that is the case. But he said: Stem cell is my only hope.
Now, he does not know anything about stem cells other than what people have told him. He is not a scientist. He is a police officer. He works in an office now. But he has hope. He has hope. As Dr. Frist said:
Much of that research needs to be amplified for cures that
may occur 5 or 10 years down the road.
He has been 5 years in a wheelchair. He is willing to wait a lot longer.
One year may not seem like a lot of time to some of us, but it is an eternity, I am sure, to some people out there who are so sick with some of those diseases where stem cell research could help. Diseases and conditions like spinal cord injuries, Alzheimer's, diabetes, Parkinson's.
Last Sunday, ``60 Minutes,'' the public affairs program on CBS, ran a segment on embryonic stem cell research. They featured a woman named Suzanne Short who is paralyzed from the neck down who was hit by a drunk driver almost 25 years ago. Here is something she said about her hope for stem cell research:
Whether I walk or not, I really don't care. And, yeah, if I
do that's great. But . . . if you could just wake up one
morning and not have to wait for someone to come in my room
and get me out of bed, I could at least transfer myself into
my own wheelchair, be amazing. I'd be completely independent.
That is what she said. She has waited more than 24 years for help. Now we need action in the Senate. She should not have to wait longer.
Mr. President, less than a month ago, my friend died, Jeanie Sherman, Jeanie McCall. She was paralyzed from the waist down. She wrote the most, to me, heartrending letter about her experiences in a wheelchair for all those many years.
Every day we delay consideration of this legislation is a day we deny hope to the hundreds of millions of Americans who suffer from these devastating illnesses and conditions that have no cure--diseases such as cancer, as I have indicated, Alzheimer's, diabetes, Parkinson's, spinal cord injuries, and heart disease, even Lou Gehrig's disease.
There are a number of very important issues that this body ought to consider this session, but few are as important to the American people as stem cell legislation that could provide medical breakthroughs that would benefit hundreds of millions of people.
So, Mr. President, I know that we are crammed for time here, but I would hope we can find time early this year to debate stem cell research. We have to keep hope alive.
Mr. President, first of all, I think you would have appreciated what I said about you. I do not think there is anything disingenuous about what I said. I talked about your pioneering transplant surgery. I talked about your courageous statement on the Senate floor about the need to do something about the stem cell research and how difficult it was from a political perspective for you to do what you did.
So my point that I made here is that we need to find time to work on stem cell research. I did not say we should do it tomorrow. I said we should figure out a time to do it this year. There is nothing disingenuous about what I said. And there was nothing that I said during my statement on stem cell research that was disrespectful to you. I recognize the burden you have trying to juggle things to get time here. But this is an issue that we have to figure out a way to move forward on.
Mr. President, as I said in my statement, the distinguished majority leader said that we would bring this up early in this session. I am not critical of its not having already been brought up, even though I would rather have done that than--I hate to bring up the ``A'' word--asbestos. There are other things we could be doing. As I said, I am willing to work with the majority leader. We still have time until we get out of here to set aside some time to do stem cell. We are ready to move forward on stem cell research. As I said when we agreed to pass the cord blood bill, we wanted to keep the cord blood bill and the stem cell bill together. That is what the House did. We agreed to pass the cord blood bill with the understanding that the majority leader would schedule time early this year to consider the House-passed stem cell bill.
We wanted to move the two bills together. A number of my people didn't want to separate them, but we took you at your word and the cord blood bill is now the law. That is what I said in my earlier statement. We cannot pass stem cell research unless there is a bipartisan effort to move it. That is why I didn't demand in my statement that we take this up instead of debt limit or instead of lobbying reform. I am saying that we have a lot to do, but stem cell ought to be a priority.
Mr. President, if I could respond to the distinguished majority leader, there is no question that the majority of this Senate feels that asbestos is a difficult, very complex problem and should be addressed. But the bill that came before the Senate was a bad bill. That is why now and before this, but now especially, a group of Senators is working on a bipartisan basis to come up with legislation to address that issue. Sure, it is important. That was a bad bill, and the Senate treated it so.
First, let me say, moving on beyond stem cells, I guess, but so the record is clear, yes, we did object to the unanimous consent agreement because it was for six or seven bills. What we proposed--
Yes. What we proposed is that we work on the stem cell bill and the cord blood bill. That is what the House did, and there was no reason we couldn't do the same.
I have given several statements this week on pension reform. I believe that we should move forward. I have given all the statistical numbers. People who are watching this would tend to agree that seven Republicans is OK with the majority. Eight is not. Nine is, if there is a three-vote margin. I am saying that we should have a conference. The Senate, whether it is fair or unfair, has worked for 224 years. These conferences ordinarily are fairly easy. It is fairly easy to go to conference. What we are saying is, let's have another Republican and another Democrat or two more Republicans and two more Democrats. There will still be a two-vote margin that the Republicans have. Why can't we go to conference? That is what every one of my statements has said.
I have said that and I gave reasons. What are the reasons for this? I gave an example yesterday about some of my trial experience. Are you trying to--juries usually come up with the right result, not always for the right reasons, but they usually come up with the right results. So do conference committees. So I am saying, let's go to conference. I am willing on my side to make choices as to who should go. But I say that we have the HELP Committee and we have the Finance Committee. Both have jurisdiction on this matter. I don't think it is asking too much to have three Senators representing the Finance Committee, three Senators representing the HELP Committee. That is what I am asking, rather than five.
Well, I could have gone into more detail, but I talked quite a long time anyway. What I was complaining about is the inordinate amount of time that we spent dealing with certain issues-- and I did mention specifically the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. And the pharmaceuticals, I thought they got a sweetheart deal with the provision that was inserted in the DoD Conference report in the middle of the night without any debate. I think I have a right to complain about how that bill was handled. I thought the Appropriations Committee, had they not been burdened with the ANWR thing, we could have been out of here weeks earlier than what we were, but that held things up for a long time. I have a right to complain about that.
I would say that the left side or right side of the aisle is according to where you are standing in this building. This side of the aisle takes no back seat to what we have tried to do with avian flu. We have pushed this very hard. We pushed it because we were told that it is not a question of if, it is a question of when.
We understand the seriousness of this. That is why we worked so hard to get the administration to also recognize this.
The majority leader, I know he is a prominent physician, and that is what I stated in my statement here. In the DoD bill, people are concerned about a provision that was placed in the bill without the opportunity to debate it that offers sweeping liability protections for the drug industry without compensation for victims who are harmed by reckless wrongdoing.
This is not the time to debate this in its entirety. I mentioned this with a number of other things. But I would not be doing my job if I did not come and talk about how I feel, how we feel, representing what the minority feels about the needs to go to conference on the pension bill. That is an obligation I have. I think I am right. But the fact that I disagree with the majority doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with me. I think we are right.
I had an obligation to come and talk about the debt limit. That is important that we talk about that. I believe I had a right and an obligation to come and talk about the situation dealing with stem cells. I think anyone that would read my statement about stem cells, that wasn't a statement where I was
saying let's draw a ring here and have somebody go in one corner and somebody come out the other and start slugging. I think this is one of the most important things that we need to do this year. I was pleading for time to have it done.
As far as cooperation, that runs both ways. We are in the minority. We understand that. But times change around here. Someday we will be in the majority, and we will be back in the minority. That is one of great things about our country. That is one of the great things about the Senate.
The Senate is here to protect individual Senators who represent States. Sometimes these rules are cumbersome. I see on the floor the distinguished junior Senator from Mississippi who was the majority leader and minority leader in years past. He has written a book about how difficult it is. But it is the Senate. It has worked well for our country. I hope when the books are written about my tenure here that it will be one where people will say: He tried to get along with people, tried to get some things done. I have no problem with the majority leader coming to the floor and saying: What did you say? Because he can look at the record and see what I said. I don't mind staff running notes to him saying things, parts of what I said. But there was nothing in any of my statements that should be cause for alarm, other than alarm that I believe there are certain things we need to do: Specifically, debate on the debt limit; two, get a conference appointed for the pensions; and get a time set so we can debate stem cells.
I will take it, 9 to 7. You will have a deal.
Will the Senator yield?
That is what I said earlier. During my tenure as leader and assistant leader, I never remember this happening. That is what I said before you came here.