Safe, Accountable, Flexible, And Efficient Transportation Equity Act Of
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. At this point, I will yield to the Senator from Iowa, and following his remarks I will seek to be recognized. (Mr. ENSIGN assumed the Chair.) Mr.…
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
At this point, I will yield to the Senator from Iowa, and following his remarks I will seek to be recognized.
(Mr. ENSIGN assumed the Chair.)
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, at this time I would like to recognize Senator Shelby for some comments about his amendment and then reclaim the floor.
No.
Mr. President, first of all, I am sure we all appreciate that clarification. I often wish the Senators who are not on the committee knew the time, effort, the bridges we have crossed, the compromises we have made, and the time we have spent. We have some provisions that have nothing to do with the formula or the issues or the nongermane issues that the Senator from New Hampshire has. It has been very difficult. It has taken many hours and committee hearings. We have had people coming in from local governments and State governments to get where we are today.
We would like to have gotten to this point back when the other authorization ran out but were unable to do it. We made a commitment that we would be there, and we are capable of being there now when this expires on February 29. So there is going to be every effort to get that done.
I know the Senator from Rhode Island wants to be heard. It will be my intention to reclaim the floor at the conclusion of his remarks.
Before the Senator yields the floor, will he yield for a question?
First, I appreciate the fact the ranking member of the committee is bringing up these issues. Everything he mentioned was controversial. Fortunately, we didn't have to handle a lot of the problems with transit because that was done in another committee, and I certainly commend the chairman of the committee, as well as the ranking member, as well as the subcommittee ranking member and subcommittee chairman. I understand the subcommittee chairman is going to come on the floor and make some comments.
When the Senator talks about safe routes to school, I think that is a good example of the weeks and months we spent coming to an agreement. Frankly, Senator Jeffords is the one driving force to get up from $50 million to $75 million. I felt that perhaps priorities could be in some other areas.
In looking at this, I want to commend the Senator for the work he did because I think he is right. We probably spent several months just on the freight area. Everyone knows that was not adequately addressed in TEA-21 and was not adequately addressed in ISTEA. I appreciate very much the time the Senator has spent in these very sensitive and controversial areas where it was give and take, it was compromise. Many times we gave up something we believed in in order to accomplish it and come up with a bill, a good bill, which we have right now.
I thank the Senator.
I ask if the chairman of the committee has any further comments to make concerning this particular part of the bill, the transit portion.
I appreciate the comments the Senator made. I know it is a very difficult area to deal in, but I think it is also interesting. When we look at the chairman, the ranking member, and then the chairman of the subcommittee and the ranking member of the subcommittee, there is Alabama, Maryland, Colorado, Rhode Island. There is a huge diversity. Most people think that geographically only certain parts of the country have an interest in transit. It is not true at all because there is equal enthusiasm. I am quite sure, knowing all four personalities and the areas they represent, they spent a long time putting this together, coming up with the successes they did achieve.
I would like to go back and review a couple of subjects we have talked about, but, first, I understand that perhaps Senator Carper was wanting to seek recognition.
The Senator may have longer than that if he wishes, and then I would want to reclaim the floor at the conclusion.
Mr. President, will the Senator yield?
I yielded to the Senator from Delaware at his request, and I asked that I get the floor when he finished. I want to explain to the Senator why I wanted to get the floor back. We are on the transit section. The chairman of the subcommittee, Senator Allard, has been waiting to be heard on that. I only inquire about how long the Senator will be until we regain the floor.
How much time does the Senator think he will require?
I thank the Senator.
I thank the Senator.
Mr. President, I appreciate very much the Senator from Massachusetts being sensitive to the chairman of the Subcommittee on Transit who wants to come down to the floor. He will be here shortly.
Mr. President, what I thought I would do is continue to go through-- in these moments where there is a little bit of a lull--this section- by-section analysis, as arduous as it may be to some people. But I think we need to have it in the Record so everybody has an understanding of not the hours, not the days, but the more than an entire year we have worked very carefully with the Senator from Nevada and the Senator from Vermont in coming up with the agreements and the compromises we have.
As we had said before, the goals of the reauthorization of TEA-21-- which for the next 6 years we refer to as SAFETEA--have been to increase the rate of return to donor States. This is something of which certainly the Presiding Officer is fully aware. It is something we are all sensitive to.
My State of Oklahoma, for example, was down in the 70 percent range prior to ISTEA. Then with ISTEA and TEA-21 we crept up to 90.5 percent. This bill will take us up so every State will be guaranteed to get back 95 percent. I think that goes a long way. Some people who are a bit sensitive to the plight of donor States believe that getting to 95 percent pretty much resolves the problem.
That was one of the points we dealt with, and that took a long time on which to get an agreement. At the same time we did that, we wanted to make sure we were not negatively impacting donee States. We hear people come down and complain about the formula approach, their State perhaps is not getting what they should be getting. Then we hear later on a donee State will come down. We have to recognize, if we don't have floors and ceilings and we take care of all the needs of the donor States, it is going to affect the others.
For the fast growing States, that is a consideration in the formula. We have never done this before. For those States that are growing very fast, we had to put in a ceiling, so we bumped the ceiling; otherwise, there wouldn't be anything for the other States.
We have to keep in mind that the three largest, fast growing States are consuming in this bill 26 percent of the growth. Consequently, as people have come to the floor, if you try to look at that and say, yes, we are sensitive to this, we must do something about the fast growing State, and yet at the same time you have one of the States such as New York or Pennsylvania that would be negatively impacted by the same thing. So this was a compromise all the way through.
Streamlining is something we tried to address. I was actively involved in the other body during the development of ISTEA in 1991 and then again in TEA-21 in 1998 on this side. We were not successful in doing it. In other words, there are things we can do to streamline some of the regulations we have to deal with. Many of those are environmental regulations where we can get that taken care of first, and we have provisions in this legislation that will do that and end up getting a lot more for our dollars.
The reason we are calling this SAFETEA is that right now we have some 43,000 deaths on the highway. We are looking now at a trend line that is going the wrong way. So it is time to address that. We even have the name SAFETEA. That is very appropriate.
Freight movement: We haven't really spent a long time on addressing these things. Nonetheless, this bill does do it. The Federal Highway System is a key component to continued economic growth in this country. We have talked about the positive effect of this bill when we get it passed and get by these parliamentary obstacles. Keep in mind, it bothers me a little bit that we have obstacles from perhaps 5 or 6 people when we had 75 votes to move on and invoke cloture.
Remember when we saw in one of the publications on the Hill the ``Men Working'' sign, and then, superimposed in the middle of that, ``Men Not Working.'' That is a sign that we still have a problem. We have an economy that is on the rebound now, but jobs are lingering behind.
There is no program out there that is more of a significant jobs program than this bill. The IPAM provisions in the legislation will allow those projects which are immediately ready to be completed. I know the Senator from Oregon has been very concerned about how quickly we can get in there and get some of these jobs going. That is why that provision is in there, so you can move immediately to those projects that have been approved without going through a long and arduous process.
That is the major concern the American people have with our not getting something done. There is a lag behind highway construction and getting the job done, we all know that.
When you talk about deficient bridges, of all 50 States, my State is No. 1. People are very sensitive to that. But they also recognize that even when we pass this, it is going to take a while to get this done.
What they are aware of is, you pass this and immediately it is going to have a very positive impact on the job market. In calculating job opportunities, it is about quadruple the number of jobs that would be corrected with this legislation. The reason is this: If a guy has a job, he is out building a road; he is also buying goods and services. The manufacturing jobs are improving. We are talking about a huge issue. There is nothing we can do that would more quickly take care of this problem.
The old bills had what was called a minimum guarantee. TEA-21 had a minimum guarantee. We all remember. We remember that formula, the 1104 formula. As you looked at the formula, each State had a percentage of the total amount, and that was what was called the formula. But politically speaking, once you get up to the 60 votes you need, it does not make any difference what they did. Consequently, it didn't have any of the provisions in there that would try to do the most good, build the best roads, and take care of the problems in the States where they are the most serious. We have done away with that.
It would have been easier to just go ahead with that because everybody understands that and you get 60 people happy and you have a bill. But we didn't want to do that because there are a lot of the categories of people in the States that need to be taken care of.
One of the problems we have with the very fast growing States and the large States is that while we are going to end up in 2009, at the end of this 6-year period, with 95 percent in terms of the donor States, the fast growing States, the large States will not reach that until 2009. I regret that is necessary, but frankly there is no other way to make this happen. So what we did was to put the formula into effect and let the formula work.
I have been going through and outlining the various sections of the bill. We have done it from the very beginning, section 1101, all the way up now to 1620.
Section 1620 is the Highway Stormwater Discharge Mitigation Program. As introduced, S. 1072 did address the issue of contaminated storm water runoff from highways. Specifically, it expanded the eligibility of storm water projects to be able to use a State's funds under the NHS program and extended the eligibility of storm water projects to mitigate runoff on existing Federal aid highways, ongoing reconstruction, rehabilitation, resurfacing, or restoration projects. An amendment was adopted to create a 2 percent set-aside from the Surface Transportation Program amounting to nearly $1 billion.
This is something about which I know a lot of Members have a concern. My position has always been that if a State wants to use a 2 percent, a State can do it. If you have a mandatory set-aside, it puts us all in the position of where not only do we not have a choice, no other State has either. When you add it up, that is a lot of money. You are talking about a billion dollars. That is something that is going to be dealt with, it is my understanding, by interested Members. We will have to debate that.
My concern is getting to the position where we can debate legitimate differences of opinion. And that was one on which our committee was divided right down the middle. The concern I have right now is we are not debating things where there is a legitimate difference of opinion or even things that are germane. I hope that we can get to a point where we can table all nongermane amendments. I don't think we are going to get there, but I would like to get there. If we did, that would resolve that problem.
There are legitimate issues to deal with, with amendments. Section 1701 is transportation systems management and operations. Despite the historic increase in highway investment following the enactment of TEA- 21, operational performance has declined. For example, a trip that would have taken 25 minutes during the congested period in 1987 now takes an additional 5 minutes. What we are talking about here is we have more congestion. I have seen this congestion mount. I was in the other body for 8 years. I was on the Transportation Committee during that time. The committee structure in the other body is not the same as here. In the other body, all they deal with is transportation.
Over here, we have Environment and Public Works, so we have other issues with which to deal. But when I got to the Senate, a vice chairmanship of the subcommittee became available. That was clean air. We went through the clean air problems we had during the Browner administration in the EPA. A lot of the problems that came up in my State--in fact, with original proposals that came through, out of 77 counties in Oklahoma we would have had some 50 counties that would have been out of attainment. We worked on that and tried to get something done that would be successful.
But when we deal with this section 1701, we are saying that if you are out there taking a trip, going from one point to another, and because of congestion you have to stop and let your engine idle and let the truck idle, you are using up a lot of fuel unnecessarily, and we will quantify that in a moment in our discussion. No. 2, it is a time waste. So you have an air quality problem as well as a pollution problem. This bill makes several changes to improve the transportation system's management and operations, including the creation of a foundation for transportation systems management and operations. Through the provisions of this bill, transportation systems management and operations programs and projects are integrated into the capital planning and construction processes. States are given tools for reducing traffic delays caused by vehicle accidents and breakdowns on highways during peak traveling times. The bill encourages continued development and deployment of safety measures, notification systems to disseminate safety information on Federal aid highways to motorists and public safety agencies as needed. Examples may include traffic congestion, freight movement and conditions, amber alert, weather event emergency notifications, and border and homeland security notifications.
I have been informed there may be another Member who wants to speak for a specific period of time on an unrelated issue.
I will yield----
Yes.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senator from Oregon be recognized for up to 12 minutes on a subject of his choice and that Senator Allard be recognized immediately after that.
Mr. President, first of all, I appreciate the efforts my colleague from Colorado has made on the committee all the way through, in addition to the transit portion of this bill. We have had a very cohesive committee in the time, well over a year, we have worked on this issue.
I would like to go through a few more sections here until someone appears, wanting to be recognized.
Arguably, this bill could be characterized as the most significant bill we will deal with in terms of how it affects so many people.
Regarding the Real-Time System Management Information Program, real- time information is the key to enhancing the operation and performance in the management of our transportation system. In drafting this legislation we adopted the ambitious and important goal of providing nationwide capability of real-time traffic and travel information. The more up-to-date information available to highway users, the better they are able to utilize the highway transportation system efficiently. The objectives of the Real-Time System Management Information Program include improving the security of the surface transportation system, addressing congestion problems, improving responses to weather events, and facilitating national and regional travel information.
As part of this real-time information program, States are required to establish a statewide incident reporting system within 2 years unless the Secretary grants a longer extension of time.
We try to recognize all the way through the bill what we don't want to do. Having been a mayor of a major city for four terms, I know what unfunded mandates are. That is something we don't want to be a part of, and we are not. We were sensitive to the problems of States and local governments so unique problems we cannot foresee at this time are taken care of with the discretion of the Secretary of Transportation.
Regarding future Interstate System routes, under current law, States have 12 years to construct National Highway System roads according to the standards of a highway on the Interstate System if they wish to designate the highway as a future Interstate System route. Recognizing the relative needs of the States and their respective abilities to meet these standards, this bill extends the current 12-year requirement to 25 years in order to give States more time to substantially complete the construction of highways designated as future Interstate System routes.
One of the problems, if we didn't do this, is that is making this a race to complete projects. The decision that programs should warrant more time, we feel, is going to end up being in everyone's benefit.
Stewardship and oversight is section 1802. Value engineering is another important stewardship tool for reducing the total cost of projects and improving their quality. Along these lines, States must annually certify the adequacy of their financial management systems and project delivery systems to meet all Federal requirements for financial integrity.
Accordingly, the Secretary is required to develop minimum standards for estimating project costs and to periodically evaluate the States' practices for estimating costs, awarding contracts, and reducing costs. States must apply a value engineering analysis during the design phase of all highway projects on the Federal aid system over $25 million and all bridge projects over $20 million to reduce the overall cost of the project and improve project quality.
Not only are States required to meet standards of financial integrity for federally funded projects, but they must also determine that subrecipients of those Federal dollars also have sufficient accounting controls and project delivery systems.
The bill also contains mechanisms to protect future Federal aid projects from fraud by mandating the debarment of contractors who have been convicted of fraud related to Federal aid highway or transit programs. It mandates the suspension of contractors who have been indicted for offenses relating to fraud.
This has become a problem because there is no mechanism set up to keep this from happening. We now will have the mechanism.
Section 1803 is design-build contracting. Under the current law, a design-build contract is defined as an agreement that provides for both the design and construction of a project. The goal of design-build contracting is to reduce costs by contracting out the design and construction of a project to a single contractor. At Senator Cornyn's request, the bill expands eligibility for design-build projects to include the design and construction of intermodal facilities.
Section 1804 is program efficiencies financing. To address certain program efficiencies in the area of financing, the bill revises current law by removing the existing restrictions that States must obligate all apportioned or allocated funds or demonstrate they will use all obligation authority allocated to it for a Federal aid highway or highway safety construction before advanced construction projects are approved. This revision clarifies that advance construction procedures can be used for all categories of Federal aid funds, and that when a project is converted at a regular Federal aid project, any available Federal aid funds may be used to convert the project.
The bill further removes the existing requirement that the Secretary first approve an application from the State before authorizing the payment of the Federal share of the cost of the project when additional funds are later apportioned or allocated to the State.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
If the Senator will yield, it is my understanding that there will be an objection.
Mr. President, I have some remarks in conjunction with the statement of Senator Voinovich. I will yield to the Senator from Florida as soon as I make a couple of comments.
Mr. President, I rise to speak in favor of the amendment offered by my colleague from Ohio, Senate Voinovich. First, I thank him for working so hard on this very important issue. I know this issue has been controversial, and I appreciate his dedication to working out a compromise. Senate Voinovich's amendment adds much-needed reforms to a provision in current law commonly referred to as section 4(f) review.
Section 4(f) was approved by Congress as part of the Department of Transportation Act of 1966 to protect public parks, recreation areas, wildlife and waterfowl refuges, and public and private historic sites.
It is important to protect our historic treasures and environmental and recreational resources. Our Government has invested money in establishing and maintaining these resources for the public's use. We should not allow another department to turn around and diminish those investments without good reason.
Unfortunately, court decisions have led to an interpretation of ``avoid at all costs.'' In addition to adding significant time delays caused by extensive study of alternatives, this interpretation has led to some really bad public policy decisions--decisions that defy common sense.
For instance, does it make sense to spend a hundred thousand dollars to shift an alignment in order to avoid an old, abandoned, dilapidated barn? I don't think so, but it has happened. Should private citizens lose parts of their front yards to road expansion so that we can save the supposed parkland between the current road and the ditch that runs alongside it? I don't think so, but it has happened.
Those are just a couple of examples of where section 4(f) is obviously broken and desperately needs to be fixed. I am pleased that Senator Voinovich has brought us such a fix.
The State of Oklahoma DOT is pleased with this language. Our folks who actually deal with this issue on a regular basis believe this will help them make better decisions with less delay.
I think this amendment represents good policy all the way around-- transportation officials will be able to make commonsense decisions, particularly when it comes to projects that will have minimal impacts, and we can all be assured that these important environmental and cultural resources are protected.
It is my understanding that this language was developed by a wide range of stakeholders, including Ohio DOT, AASHTO, the National Trust for Historic Preservation, Defenders of Wildlife, Environmental Defense and the Natural Resources Defense Council. I commend Senator Voinovich for bringing forward this section 4(f) amendment, and I am happy to add my support to it. I regret that we cannot consider his amendment today, but I assure the Senator that I will work to have his amendment adopted.
Mr. President, what my friend from Ohio is saying is what we have been saying since Monday morning.
The Senator is exactly right. I do not know how many times I have stood on this floor and said those of us who are conservatives historically have to stop and look at what is Government here for. Conservatives are generally big spenders when it comes to defense, when it comes to infrastructure. We need to defend America and we need infrastructure. Right now, I am sure there are some States that are not as sensitive as the Senator from Ohio and I are because they do not have the problems, but when we look at what this bill is doing to try to correct the problem of, just as an example, our deteriorating bridges, my State of Oklahoma ranks dead first in terms of the deteriorated condition of bridges, and I chair the committee.
We are going to have to get a bill through. There has been some recent suggestion that it be pared down a little bit. I can assure my colleagues the figure we are talking about right now is a figure that is not acceptable to those on the other side of the Capitol, and this is the only way we can get one.
I thought we were making some headway. We have all of these little procedural hurdles. We are not able to send the amendment of the Senator to the desk, but I will tell the Senator right now I am going to do what I can about it.
First, I do agree with the Senator's amendment and I know how hard he has been working on it. A lot of people do not realize this section was approved by the Congress as part of the Department of Transportation Act of 1966. It is obvious it is not working now and we need to do something about it. Certainly the Senator is as enthusiastic about protecting any of our historical sites as we are, but we need to have something that is workable.
I know there is someone else who wants to speak, but let me give the Senator my assurance, as chairman of the committee, I will do everything I can to make sure he gets his amendment in, which I support. More important than his amendment, we want to get this bill passed so we can get America back to work again.
Remember, not long ago one of the publications in the Capitol had a ``men working'' sign on it, and they put a ``not'' right in the middle: Men not working. That is exactly what is happening right now. If we play around
with the reductions, with the temporary extensions and all of that, we are not going to be able to get people back to work.
We have the infrastructure needs. We have the needs for jobs, and I will be there beside the Senator from Ohio doing what I can to make that a reality.
Before I yield the floor, let me ask my good friend with whom I was privileged to share this morning's chairmanship at the National Prayer Breakfast--one of the truly great moments of my life with my good friend. We are trying to stay on the highway bill. We have others who are going to be coming down. Could I inquire as to how much time the Senator from Florida would like to have?
I ask unanimous consent that he be given 15 minutes and then after I be recognized as having the floor.
I appreciate the statement of my friend from Florida.
I would say, in terms of who the villain is in the deficit we are facing right now, there are two big villains. One is the war, and then the economy. As we started losing economic ground, a downturn back in March of 2000, people didn't realize for every 1 percent change in economic activity it translated into $45 billion in revenue. In other words, as the economy is rebounding now, the revenue is coming back up. Even continuing in the effort, the war effort--which I am afraid is going to last for quite a while--we are going to be facing end strength problems and that will have to go on.
I believe the best thing we can do is do it through the economy. At the same time there are certain things that have to happen in America. We have to do something about roads in America. I probably have as many townhall meetings as anyone. I suggest the Senator from Florida does, too. I can't remember one I have had where they haven't said something about roads.
In Oklahoma what they say is, we can always tell when we are around Thanksgiving time, when we have family coming in, we have friends coming in, we can always know when we get to Oklahoma because of the roads. I add to the Presiding Officer, when they come from Texas they make that comment about Oklahoma roads. So we do have a very serious problem. It seems to be more serious in my State.
Part of that is due to the donor status we have had for quite some time. Of course, we have not had the money with which to do it. I feel an obligation, and believe it is very appropriate for conservatives, to get out and vote in favor of this type of an infrastructure program. This translates directly into jobs, translates directly into the economy, translates directly into increasing economic activity and additional revenue that will come into Government.
With that, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.