Mr. Speaker, it is a great honor to be here on the floor of the House of Representatives talking to the American people about one of the most critical things that this body does, and that is to decide how much money we ask our citizens to…
Mr. Speaker, it is a great honor to be here on the floor of the House of Representatives talking to the American people about one of the most critical things that this body does, and that is to decide how much money we ask our citizens to contribute to the government and how that money is going to be spent.
I didn't come here intending to respond to the gentleman who spoke before me, but he cast in one respect the whole debate over our budget very well when we had Mr. Broun's four-way test. The first thing that Mr. Broun listed was: Is it right/moral? And I agree with him because when we debate the budget of the United States, when we debate how we are going to spend the taxpayers' money, the first question we should ask is: Is it right, and is it moral? The converse is if we don't spend something, is it wrong and is it immoral.
Today, I had the great honor of visiting Walter Reed Hospital. I got to speak with several of our extremely brave, courageous soldiers who have been injured in battle. And one young man who lost both legs, one just above the knee and one all of the way to his pelvis, and lost a little bit of finger on one hand was on what can only be described as bionic legs which he said are extremely good, the technology is extremely advanced; but they still don't help him walk. He talked to us for a long time about what he had been through, the progress he had made, and what he hoped to achieve with technology.
His parting comment to us was that this is the result of the Federal Government spending money on medical research. This is helping people not just in the military, not just in the Armed Forces, but also in the private arena as well.
So I look at what the Republican budget has done, which we will consider later in the week; and it slashes money for medical research. I say let's apply Mr. Broun's four-way test: Is it right? Is it moral? Also, does it make any sense to cut medical research when we have brave men and women who after making incredible sacrifices are reacquiring some of their lives because of the taxpayer money we have spent in funding critical research? It would be immoral--Don was his name--to deny Don his request that we continue to fund medical research that is going to help him regain his capabilities, his physical function, as well as to continue to fund the medical research that will help the thousands of young men and women who have sacrificed so much for us.
So as we enter this debate this week on the Republican budget proposal/the Democratic alternative budget proposal, we have choices to make. That's always what government is about. It's about choosing: How do we spend the taxpayer money that we ask our taxpayers to contribute to the general welfare of this country?
Last week, we sat in the Budget Committee and considered the Republican budget. I'm sure that my characterization of the Republican budget will be different than the Republicans' characterization of their budget. Yet I will say one thing, that we all agree that we have a fiscal challenge in front of us. We have enormous deficits. We can argue about how we got here, but I'm not going to spend time debating that tonight. We clearly have a challenge, and the future is even more challenging. So the question is:
As we approach this budget deficit, this future of deficits, a very, very large national debt, what is the best way to approach it?
Now, the Republican answer is that there is only one side of the ledger. Most homes, most businesses have two sides of the ledger. They have an income side, and they have an expenditure side. As far as the Republicans on the Budget Committee are concerned, we only have an expenditure side. You've heard the Speaker of the House say we only have a spending problem; we don't have a revenue problem. You've heard my senior Senator from Kentucky, the minority leader of the Senate, say we don't have a taxing problem, a revenue problem; we have a spending problem.
In fact, if you look at our situation right now, we're no different, in a lot of respects, from the average household or the average business. If we have a financial challenge, we do a couple of things. We ask, Okay, where can we cut costs? Then we ask, How can we generate more revenue? Those are the two options. As far as the Republicans are concerned, there is only one option. It is to cut expenditures. Unfortunately, my characterization is that they cut
the programs which help the most vulnerable people in our country.
On the other hand, what do they do on the revenue side? They say, Well, let's see. Millionaires and billionaires haven't done quite well enough over the last decade or so. Twenty years ago, they only earned 9 percent of all income in the country. Now they earn 35 percent of all income in the country. That's not quite good enough. Let's give them another tax break. The Bush tax cuts were okay, but they weren't quite large enough. So instead of cutting their rate from 39.6 to 35 percent, let's cut their maximum rate to 25 percent, and let's see what that does for the economy.
I think most of my Democratic colleagues would agree that, if we're going to approach this deficit and the national debt in a responsible way, we'll look at both sides of the ledger. We will ask people who have done extremely well and who have the capacity to give more to pay a little more, and we will make responsible cuts that are balanced across the sector.
There are so many ramifications to this debate, and we're going to be debating it all week, so I am proud to have with me today some members of the Budget Committee from the Democratic side to help me discuss this.
It is my great honor now to yield to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Tonko).
I thank the gentleman. He mentioned the ``road to ruin.'' It's also a road we've been down before.
It is a road we've been down before.
Back under the Reagan administration, this whole magical economic theory of trickle-down economics was developed. And the idea was, you let people at the top make as much as they possibly can, do as well as they possibly can, and that will trickle down and help everybody else. The man who was largely responsible for that policy under the Reagan administration, David Stockman, who was his budget director, he said just last year, ``I find it unconscionable that the Republican leadership, faced with a $1.5 trillion deficit, could possibly believe that good public policy is to maintain tax cuts for the top 2 percent.'' That was last year when we were actually debating whether to return to the Clinton-era tax rates--the Clinton era, by the way, which resulted in one of the most impressive decades of job growth in this country.
Now they even want to double down on that. They not only don't want to go back to the Clinton era tax cuts; they want to cut it even further. And their theory is that by cutting the tax rate by 10 percent more on the wealthiest people in this country, that they will create more jobs. Where do they get this stuff? Well, the only source they have for that theory is the Heritage Foundation. Now the Heritage Foundation was also the group that said that if we cut taxes under the Bush administration, that we're going to have this enormous job growth and this enormous surplus. It didn't quite work out so well. But they're saying now--this is what I call the ``Harry Potter budget.'' You wave your magic wand and you make anything sound like it's true-- cut taxes further on the rich, slash spending to help the low- and moderate-income people in this country, and the economy will bloom. Well, I'm not buying it. I don't think most Americans will buy it. But again, it's a road we've been down before, so we have some evidence.
At this point, I'd like to introduce and yield time to a great new Member of Congress and also the Budget Committee, the gentlelady from California (Ms. Bass).
I thank the gentlelady for her contribution and for her work on the Budget Committee.
I know somewhere toward the end there the gentlelady mentioned jobs, and this is something that is kind of at the core of what we're trying to work toward.
We're trying to find a budget, develop a budget that will stimulate the economy, that will create jobs. And we know that under the Ryan budget, again, according to the Heritage Foundation, the way they get to some kind of fiscal sanity is they project that unemployment in the country will be reduced to 2.8 percent by 2016.
Now, I don't know any reputable economist in the country that thinks that's feasible, particularly when you're slashing a lot of government spending that does create jobs, particularly in the health care arena; but no one has been more vocal and more knowledgeable and more articulate about what it takes in this country to create jobs than Mr. Garamendi from California.
I welcome him to the discussion and yield to him now.
I thank the gentleman for his contribution and also want to segue from what he said because he talked about Medicare and the ability to save money in Medicare. One of the ironic things about this debate has been that last year when we were passing the Affordable Care Act and found $550 billion over 10 years that we could save in Medicare and reinvest in new benefits, during the campaign that year, we were chastised for slashing Medicare. Yet those same Republicans, in developing their budget and saying how great they are at cost-cutting, are using the same savings that we found, the same savings of $550 billion, that they ran millions and millions of dollars against Democratic candidates last year. And they're taking credit for that in their budget, which is interesting.
I know Mr. Tonko is chomping at the bit to talk about Medicare some more, so I'll yield to him at this point.
Thank you very much, Mr. Tonko. There are so many aspects of this that deserve to be discussed. One of the things that's kind of sad is that the Republicans, in talking about their plan to privatize Medicare, say, oh, this is just like the plan that Members of Congress have. Well, first of all, Members of Congress have the same plan as every other Federal employee, so it's not necessarily anything special that we have.
But the only thing that is somewhat similar about this is that you have some options in the private sector. We buy insurance from private vendors, and we have a certain allowance. And under the Ryan plan, the Republican budget, seniors, all those under 55 now, when they become seniors they would have a certain amount that they could spend--not just could spend, had to spend in the private sector because they won't be allowed to buy into any Medicare program or a public option. The difference is, as you pointed out in your graphic there, that Members of Congress and Federal employees pay about 28 percent of the premium. Under the Republican budget, seniors are going to pay 68 percent of their premium.
This is shifting the burden, the cost, and putting it on seniors who are on fixed incomes, who don't have the ability to pay. And what's going to happen to them? This is so unlike the Federal insurance program. It's frightening in its dishonesty.
But I want to talk about one thing quickly and then yield to Mr. Garamendi again, because we talked about taxes and tax rates. In the Budget Committee last week I offered an amendment to the Ryan budget that would have restored the Clinton era tax cut, highest tax rate of 39.6 percent on Americans making $1 million a year or more. Now, that is a very small percentage of Americans. Very small percentage. Less than 1 percent of the Americans make over a million dollars a year.
I said let's just have them pay what they paid under the Clinton era. Not one Republican voted for that. And their argument was, and I know they believe this because they keep saying it and have always said it, that if you raise the tax rate on the highest-income Americans that they're going to lose incentive, that they're not going to work as hard, that they're not going to make investments because you are eliminating their incentive.
Well, for those with a long memory, the highest marginal tax rate in this country's history back in the sixties was 91 percent--I am sorry, under the Eisenhower administration--was 91 percent. When my father built his company in the sixties and seventies, the highest marginal tax rate was 70 percent. When Ronald Reagan took office it was 50 percent. Now it's down to 35 percent, and they want to cut it even further.
Now, they had this belief, again, that if you raise rates you're going to destroy incentives. I built a company, both my brothers have built very successful companies, my father built a very successful company. Not one of us has ever said, oh, my gosh, because I can only keep 60 cents of that next dollar I make rather than 64 cents or 65 cents, I am just not going to make that dollar. Just doesn't make any sense for me to work harder. Business people don't think that way. That is not human nature.
I have one brother who is very successful. He is in the barbecue restaurant business. You have all heard me tell this story a hundred times. I am going to tell it again. I asked him, ``What about this marginal tax rate thing?'' And he said, ``You know, if people can't afford barbecue it doesn't matter what my tax rate is.'' And that's really where we are as a country. That's where we've come as a country. Because we have let the middle class decline, because their buying power has declined not just in relative terms, in absolute terms over the last decade, while the wealthiest Americans, these people making $1 million, $1 billion and more have done extremely well.
Right now 1 percent of the American people make as much as the bottom 90 percent combined. We have the greatest disparity in income and wealth in this country that we have had in almost 100 years. Yet ask millionaires and billionaires to pay a little bit more--not a lot more. We are not saying go to 70 percent. We are saying go to 39 percent from 35 percent. Not one Republican vote.
We've seen in the past what's happened with tax rates. We have been talking a lot about history tonight. Under the Clinton administration, during the Clinton years, top tax rate of 39.6 percent, 20.8 million jobs created. After the Bush tax cuts, reducing that top rate to 35 percent, 653,000 jobs lost. That is not evidence for cutting the marginal tax rate on the highest-income Americans even further.
We have seen again right now the Bush tax cuts--this is the job loss thing--the economy floundered after the Bush tax cuts went into effect. So again, all we're saying is if we're going to ask people to sacrifice as we try to get our fiscal house in order, we need to ask everybody. In particular, we need to ask the people who have done the best and who have earned the most and who have the most wealth.
Again, the person who has talked more about what it takes to create jobs in this economy is my colleague from California. I yield to him again.
I am sorry, no, I wasn't here. I didn't have the honor of voting against those.
I thank the gentleman. Just to elaborate a little bit on the issue of what creates jobs and what kills jobs, under H.R. 1, which was the Republican continuing resolution that was passed earlier this year--we are still fighting that battle, and we will be fighting it this week--but these are the principles that were reflected in here that are now are reflected in the Ryan budget.
And this is what various economists said would happen if H.R. 1 would go into effect, and this was just for 6 months of the year. Call it ``Slash-onomics.'' Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke--again this is 6 months, 200,000 jobs lost; Mark Zandi, who was John McCain's economic adviser during his Presidential campaign, 700,000 jobs lost; the Economic Policy Institute, 800,000 jobs lost; and the Center for American Progress, just shy of a million jobs lost. That's over 6 months.
Now as we saw on the chart before, contrast that with what's happened just under the Obama administration and the policies that we adopted when we were in the majority. Job growth now, over 200,000 private sector jobs last month created. We are on the right track.
And to slash spending the way that the Republicans have proposed, without an accompanying increase in revenue, is going to do further damage to what is now a solid recovery that's under way.
I just have to laugh a little bit again about the projections of the Ryan Republican budget, because they have made a big deal out of saying this is $6 trillion better than the Obama budget over the next 10 years.
Well, the way they get to that, once again we said it earlier, is to project that unemployment will come down to 2.8 percent in 5 years, which no economist says it would be. But more importantly, they say, that we will increase revenues by almost double from $2.2 trillion dollars last year to $4.3 trillion 10 years from now.
Now, to put that into perspective, the 10 years before that we went from $1.9 trillion in revenue to $2.2 trillion in revenue. Now, we have been up higher, we have been up around $2.5 trillion. That's the highest we have been.
Now they're saying we're going to cut taxes on corporations from 35 to 25 percent, we're going to cut taxes on the wealthiest Americans from 35 to 25 percent, and yet we're going to experience unprecedented growth in revenue even though we are cutting taxes. Again they can't get anybody to verify this except the Heritage Foundation, which has not been particularly accurate in the past. This is the Harry Potter budget. This is their theology: Cut taxes, the economy explodes.
We've been down that road before, Mr. Tonko. I would like to yield to you to talk about the Road to Ruin that we are about to be asked to drive.
I thank the gentleman. We have a couple minutes left. I would just like to yield to my friend, Mr. Garamendi, for some closing comments about making it in America.
I thank the gentleman and thanks for his participation. I just want to say in closing that budget battles are more about dollars, and I think all of us on both sides of the aisle believe that and live by that, or want to live by that. Budgets are about values. Budgets are about what we care for in America. And one of the things that I think we have always stood for in America is the idea that anyone has the opportunity to reach his or her full potential, and to be wealthy, but certainly to be happy and to be healthy.
What the Republican budget does is destroy much of that hope, destroy much of that dream, slashing education, slashing research and development, and slashing investment in infrastructure while at the same time giving more and more tax breaks to wealthy individuals, millionaires, billionaires, oil companies, Wall Street hedge fund managers, and the people who have already had more than their share of the American blessing.
So as we proceed in this debate this week on the budget and throughout these next few months in the Congress, I want to make it very clear that our values are at stake, not just our dollars, but our values, and whether you call it the Road to Ruin, or as I look to call it, the Pay Back for the Prosperous, the Republican budget does not reflect our values. It does not lead to a brighter future for the vast majority of Americans, and it should be rejected. We should move forward with a budget that invests in our dearest, dearest asset, and that is the American people.