Madam President, what is the parliamentary situation? I thank the Chair. Madam President, yesterday, when we were finally allowed to proceed to the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act, we began making real progress. Ten amendments were…
Madam President, what is the parliamentary situation?
I thank the Chair.
Madam President, yesterday, when we were finally allowed to proceed to the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act, we began making real progress. Ten amendments were offered during the course of the day, four amendments were adopted, and six remain pending. I believe, had we not stopped voting at 5 o'clock, we could have finished the bill and passed it last night. As things stand, we hope to dispose of the six remaining amendments through the course of this morning. We should complete Senate consideration of the bill without further delay.
I should note that the number of Senators who have cosponsored this bill continue to grow--now at 17 Senators. Most of the Senators who offered amendments yesterday praised the underlying bill. I think we have only one pending amendment that regards the underlying bill; only one that actually directly relates to it. Senator Grassley will speak to that amendment. Most of the amendments that have been offered, almost all the remaining amendments pending, aren't within the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee, they are within the jurisdiction of the Banking Committee, and I look forward to the leadership of that committee--the committee of jurisdiction--with respect to guidance on those amendments.
In my view, it would have been better if Senators had withheld their amendments and waited to offer them on the housing and banking legislation that is going to be considered next week by the Senate. Then you would have at least had a bill that was relevant to the amendments. But, of course, every Senator can do whatever he or she wants to. Now, the banking/housing amendments that have been added to this Judiciary bill will complicate passage and enactment of what everyone agrees is needed--the fraud enforcement legislation. I think that is unfortunate.
Among the examples are amendments affecting the use of TARP funds.
Modifying the Troubled Asset Relief Program is a complicated matter. I wish it were not complicating this bill. I have no problem with such amendments being on a bill that actually relates to TARP, but this one does not. Indeed, in the 6 weeks, the month and a half since the fraud enforcement bill was reported by the Judiciary Committee, my staff and I reached out to Senators and no one raised these TARP issues. Had they, we would have engaged with Chairman Dodd and Senator Shelby and tried to work them out as best we could in the proper setting.
The Obama administration has reformed the TARP process. It is doing its best to get a handle on the use of these funds. I intend to look to their views and to those of Chairman Dodd, but I believe complicating passage of this fraud enforcement bill with those issues is not helpful. Nonetheless, we will do what we have to in order to complete this process.
The Obama administration's Statement of Administration Policy expresses their strong support for enactment of the underlying fraud enforcement bill. They note:
Its provisions would provide Federal investigators and
prosecutors with significant new criminal and civil tools and
resources that would assist in holding accountable those who
committed financial fraud.
To give an idea, the Justice Department, the FBI, the Secret Service, the Special Inspector General for the TARP, law enforcement officers, good government advocates--all support the underlying bill. The New York Times wrote last weekend:
Senators should not be asking if the expenditure on fraud
enforcement called for in this bill is affordable, but
whether it is enough.
Fraud has damaged our economy. It has wrecked the lives and life savings of thousands of hardworking Americans. That is why this bill should not be complicated with a lot of extraneous material that is not in the jurisdiction of this bill. We have people around this country facing economic crises. They are preyed upon by some of these mortgage fraud groups. They promise to help them out of any kind of a mortgage difficulty they have and then they steal their retirement accounts. They steal the money they may have saved for their children to go to college. They steal the equity in their homes. Then they disappear, so people are left with no homes, no equity, no retirement accounts. If they saved money for their children to go to college, there is no money there, and the people who have committed the fraud get away.
On those occasions when sometimes they are chased down, they may actually face a fine. But if they have stolen $200 million and get a $10 million fine--big deal. It is the cost of doing business. But if we have very tough legislation that allows the Justice Department and others to go in right at the get-go, to be able to go in and go after these people and make it very clear: If you are involved in this kind of fraud, if you are involved in this kind of theft, you are not going to get a fine, you are going to go to prison, then they are going to pay attention.
I can tell you from my own experience as a prosecutor, I know fines in this kind of fraud situation do not serve as much of a deterrent. But if we are able to send in the police to arrest these people, and they know they are going to spend years behind bars, then they start paying attention. That is the only thing that really does it, and that is the only thing that is going to protect these Americans, American taxpayers, honest, hardworking men and women--the only thing that is going to protect them from losing everything they have in a downturn in the economy.
We should pass this bill without further delay. We should move to the task of helping law enforcement find and hold accountable those who engage in such fraudulent conduct. This should be fairly easy. We can pass this bill and say: We are against crime, we are against fraud, we want the good guys to win, we want the bad guys to go to jail. It is as simple as that. That is why there are Republicans and Democrats who support this--across the political spectrum.
Strengthening fraud enforcement is a key priority for President Obama. During the campaign the President promised to ``crack down on mortgage fraud professionals found guilty of fraud by increasing enforcement and creating new criminal penalties.''
The President made good in his promise in his budget, calling on FBI agents ``to investigate mortgage fraud and white collar crime,'' and more Federal prosecutors and civil attorneys ``to protect investors, the market, and the Federal Government's investment of resources in the financial crisis, and the American public.''
As taxpayers, we all have a stake in this. If these people are able to get away with their fraud, if they are able to get away with siphoning off this money, we taxpayers pay the bill in the long run. Those who are hit with the fraud pay far more than that. They may pay with their life savings, with their homes, with everything they have ever worked for.
This bipartisan Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act is a chance to authorize the necessary additional resources to detect, fight, and deter fraud that robs the American people and the American taxpayers of their funds. Investing resources in detecting and deterring fraud yields dividends for the American people. That is what this bill would do, and we should pass it without further delay.
I want my colleagues to know, at some point, if people are not here to offer amendments, we will call up and vote on the amendments that are pending and then go to final passage. I know the Democratic and Republican leaders talked about a budget matter that has to come up that will probably take us into the evening. I am trying to save the time of all Senators, so I urge Senators to come because at some point everything that is pending is going to be called up and is going to be voted on up or down. I would at least like to have the Senators on the floor who are sponsoring them. Then we will go to final passage.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Madam President, I thank my friend from South Dakota for his courtesy in talking to me first about the amendment. As I pointed out to him, these are matters before the Banking Committee. The Judiciary Committee has really got nothing to do with it, the same as many of these. I will wait for Senator Dodd and Senator Shelby to respond; I will not.
I am going to make a unanimous consent request. I have notified both sides of this. There is a Boxer-Snowe amendment No. 1000. I ask unanimous consent that at 10:50--I realize it is going to be objected to, but I am trying to save both Republicans and Democrats from being here until 2 o'clock tomorrow morning because of the bill that comes up after this. I ask unanimous consent--and if this is objected to, I will repeat the request later on--that at 10:50 the pending business be set aside, the Boxer-Snowe amendment No. 1000 be brought up, there be 8 minutes of debate evenly divided before a vote, and that it then be in order to go to a rollcall vote on the amendment.
I have been advised that there would be an objection because they have not heard from the Banking Committee, from Senator Dodd and Senator Shelby. I would urge them to come to the floor so we can move forward, as most of the amendments pending or about to be pending have absolutely nothing to do with the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee, have nothing to do with the jurisdiction of the bill on the floor, have everything to do with a bill that is coming up next week from the Banking Committee. So I would urge the Banking Committee to come to the floor and speak to the amendments that are all within the jurisdiction of their committee.
I mention this because if we don't, the other alternative is to accept everything and go immediately to final passage. I don't think that would be responsible because then the fraud bill that virtually everybody in this body, Republicans and Democrats, supports is going to die because it won't go past the other body. I realize every Senator has a right to offer any amendment he or she wants, but at some point we have to be realistic. If we are against the people who are committing fraud on the American taxpayers, something for which all of us have made speeches that we are in favor of stopping them--newspapers from the right to the left have editorialized in favor of stopping them--let's be honest and actually pass a bill that does it. The message amendments should wait until an appropriate bill that has something to do with them.
I am also trying to help Senators. We are going to complete this bill before we go to budget matters. We can complete it easily by noon. As Senators know, I have supported Republican amendments that came up yesterday. They have all been accepted, including an amendment by Senator Grassley and myself. But we want to complete this legislation. I am perfectly willing to stay here all night long to finish this and the budget. But every hour we take on this is an hour longer on the budget. It is somewhat frustrating that Senators who have a concern can't find time to show up on the floor. Senators from both sides of the aisle don't have time to show up on the floor on a bill which we were notified 3 weeks ago was going to be on the floor at this time. I urge them to do so. Because as soon as these amendments are disposed of one way or the other, we will go to final passage.
I yield the floor.
Madam President, while the Senator from South Dakota is in the Chamber, if I may ask him a question, we also have amendment No. 982 offered by Senator Coburn which allows the unused TARP funds to pay for the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act. I ask the Senator if the Coburn amendment and his amendment are mutually exclusive?
I thank the Senator. I have read it carefully, and that was my conclusion. This is a matter more in line with the Banking Committee, and I will let them speak to it. This is unprecedented, that we have amendments on bills, whether this one or others, that are mutually exclusive. I did note that. I thank my friend from South Dakota for his comments.
I yield the floor.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Madam President, I was distracted in another conversation. Senator Coburn left the floor. I wished to speak to him about his amendment because it appears to have already been covered in the Isakson-Conrad amendment. I would like to ask if he also feels that way. I would hope he might come back to the floor so we could discuss that.
I also wish to notify the other side I am about to renew my unanimous consent request for a vote on the Boxer amendment. I will not until they have time to talk to the Republican side. There is no Republican on the floor right now. But in a few minutes, I will renew my request for a rollcall vote on that amendment.
In the meantime, Madam President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Madam President, I will object, and I will just take a moment to explain.
First off, I would note, as he typically does, the Senator from Arizona came and talked to me before and was very straightforward with what he was going to do.
This talks about recoveries available under the False Claims Act. I think the Senate expert on the False Claims Act is Senator Grassley, a senior member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Senator Grassley opposes this, as do I. I know there are going to be other amounts the distinguished Republican leader is going to bring up, but my reason in opposing them--and he has explained each one of them to me ahead of time, so there is no surprise--but I will oppose them because I believe without whistleblowers, a lot of these billions of dollars in fraud that have been found wouldn't have been found. Without the whistleblowers, the Government--the American taxpayers--wouldn't recover so much.
The False Claims Act--and, again, Senator Grassley and others were the leaders in putting that together--has brought back more than $22 billion into the U.S. Treasury.
Now, it has a balanced approach in providing incentives for said whistleblowers. They share in such recoveries if it is warranted and if it is approved by the judge. A judge has to approve it. It has worked out very well. Rather than there being an arbitrary cap, I would rather leave it to the judge to make the determination. Simply saying, well, we will limit it to three times the cost, then I worry about seeing a padding of expenses. I think it is very well balanced the way it is, including having a judge make the final decision.
I think one of the things we all agree upon--I am sure the Senator from Arizona and I agree--is that we have to find fraud, we have to root it out, and we have to bring those who commit fraud to justice. What I am thinking about, as Senator Grassley has pointed out in the past, as have I, we have to give an incentive to the whistleblowers to bring the case. After all, we have seen all too often a whistleblower will alert us to the fraud, and the first thing that happens is they lose their job. They often risk retaliation. In fact, if they are turning in their coworkers or their supervisors and bringing out the fraud, this could be life-altering. It could actually change their professional career, often for the worse. They are looked at as the bad guys, but they are not the bad guys; they are the good guys. We ought to reward them.
I will vote against it in this case. I object to considering it. I know the Senator from Arizona is going to have further amendments, but I just want him to know--and I want my colleagues to know what I have told him privately. I commend him for--as we have always done in cases we have had--talking to me ahead of time, as I have with him when I have had amendments or matters that may involve him.
So I yield the floor.
I object.
Mr. President, as I indicated to my friend earlier, I would object to that, and I do object.
Mr. President, reserving the right to object, I hate to try to fix something that I don't think is broken. The False Claims Act has worked very well for the U.S. taxpayers. It has worked well. I know the Senator from Iowa worked so hard in putting this together in the first place. It has brought more than $22 billion back into the Treasury. The awards to whistleblowers have to be approved by a judge. I don't want to fix something that is not broken, so, therefore, I will object, and I do object.
Mr. President, I know the distinguished Senator from Iowa wishes to speak on this amendment, and we will soon have a rollcall vote. I ask the Senator from Arizona and the Senator from Iowa if we could withhold for 2 minutes in order for the Senator from Wisconsin to speak on an amendment of his, and then we will go back to the amendment of the Senator from Arizona.
Will the Senator yield for a unanimous consent request?
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the vote on the Kyl amendment, now pending, occur at 11:45 but that there be 2 minutes equally divided immediately preceding the vote. First, I make that request.
Mr. President, I ask for the yeas and nays on the amendment.
Mr. President, I also ask unanimous consent that there not be any amendments to that amendment.
Mr. President, I understand the senior Senator from New York has an amendment. While the senior Senator from Iowa is on the floor, I ask unanimous consent that it be in order for the Senator from New York to bring up his amendment--that the pending amendment be set aside for 5 minutes--speak on it, and if there are no objections to it, it then be accepted, and we go back to the Kyl amendment so as not to interfere with the unanimous consent agreement to have a vote on the Kyl amendment at 11:45 a.m. I make that request.
If I can get the attention of the senior Republican, my request is that the Senator from New York be allowed to bring up his amendment for 5 minutes, and at the conclusion of the 5 minutes, unless more time is requested by unanimous consent, that the matter, if it can be disposed of, be disposed of, but in any event, at the end of that time, we go back to the Kyl amendment on which there is a unanimous consent agreement for a rollcall vote at a quarter of 12.
I so modify it. That would still leave the amount of time Senator Kyl has requested prior to a vote on his amendment.
Mr. President, are we now back on the Kyl amendment?
Before that happens, I thank the Senator from New York and the Senator from Iowa. They have been meeting with me and my staff for weeks on this amendment. I am glad they were able to reach agreement on the amendment.
I yield the floor.
Wait a minute. Reserving the right to object, would the Senator repeat that? That is not my understanding of what he was to do. Would the Senator repeat the unanimous consent request?
That was not my understanding of what the Senator was asking, so I would object.
Amendment No. 1004
Reserving the right to object, and I shall not object, it is my understanding that we now have about 7 minutes or 8 minutes. Then we will go off this and go back to the Kyl amendment. I want to protect the Senator from Arizona on his amendment. Even though it is one I disagree with, I want to protect his right to have that.
Mr. President, I assume the Banking Committee will talk about the amendment of the Senator from Nevada.
If I could have the attention of the Senator from Nevada, if his staff would allow me to have the attention of the Senator from Nevada for a moment, I realize we are merely constitutional impediments to the staff. I hate to interfere.
Again, this is one of a series of amendments that is not at all within the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee. I find it an interesting amendment, but it is within the jurisdiction of the Banking Committee. I was hoping, since there is going to be a banking bill next week, that some of these banking amendments would actually go on the Banking bill and have Judiciary amendments on the Judiciary bill. And I would assume that the discussion will be carried out by Senators Dodd and Shelby of the Banking Committee, in that there is no relationship at all to the Judiciary Committee bill.
I would add to that, of course, that the Senator from Nevada has an absolute right to bring up anything. Someone can bring up something on agriculture and price supports, I suppose. But I wish we could keep it to Judiciary matters.
Mr. President, am I correct we are now back on the Kyl amendment?
I thank the Chair, and I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. ENSIGN addressed the Chair.
I withhold that request for the Senator from Nevada.
Amendment No. 1000
Mr. President, I thought the Kyl amendment was pending by unanimous consent.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum. Will the Senator give up the floor?
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I understand that the Senator from Arizona and I have 2 minutes equally divided between us before the vote?
I know Senator Kyl is on the way. I will say what I said before, when he was standing on the floor. I, along with Senator Grassley, strongly oppose his amendment because the False Claims Act is so well put together, has a balanced approach of providing incentives for whistleblowers, and has recovered more than $22 billion for the Treasury. That is why Senator Grassley and I oppose the amendment by the Senator from Arizona. Awards to whistleblowers have to be approved by judges, so there is a mechanism to handle excessive awards.
When we have something like the False Claims Act that is working as well as it is--as I said, it is one of the few things that has made money for the Federal Government. So far it has made $22 billion for the U.S. taxpayers. I hate to interfere with something that is working.
My time is up. The Senator from Arizona is on the Senate floor.
I move to reconsider the vote and to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
vote explanation
Madam President, if the Senator will yield for a moment, this bill would have been easily finished last night, but I understand, under the Senate schedule, we were unable to continue at that time. I hope we will finish soon so that we don't have to spend a great deal more time. We have had a large number of amendments that are basically Banking Committee amendments, and other committees, not the Judiciary Committee. We should come back to realizing that this is a Judiciary bill. Every one of us says we are against those who are stealing life savings and money set aside for kids' colleges and stealing people's homes. We all say we would love to put them in jail. We will not do it until we get the bill through.
I yield the floor.
Madam President, I wish to thank the Senator from Missouri for her statement. I hope people listen to what she had to say because it is a warning to many. Again, I would reiterate that one of the reasons we are trying to move this fraud bill through, everybody will be against fraud and everybody is against crime, but as the Senator from Missouri knows so well, you have to have some laws on the book to go after fraud and go after crime. I wish to speak further on that, but I see my dear friend and distinguished colleague from Vermont on the floor.
I will yield the floor so he can also speak on a matter.
I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Madam President, with the vote and disposition of the Kyl amendment today and the Kyl amendment and the Leahy-Grassley amendment yesterday, we have basically completed work on the underlying bill. Those were the only amendments that affected the underlying bipartisan fraud enforcement bill. A number of other amendments have come in, but they, of course, have nothing to do with this bill. They are not within the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee. They are, in large part, extraneous to the fraud enforcement bill. Many if not all are within the jurisdiction of the Banking Committee. I haven't seen one yet that should be in Agriculture, but hope springs eternal. Today, a Senator offered an amendment drawn from the HELP Committee jurisdiction. In a way, it is a compliment that so few people have suggested changes that they wanted to make to the Judiciary Committee bill. I guess Senators are anxious in case they are not around here next week when we have a Banking bill.
I would like to conclude consideration of the bill that actually is before the Senate. We will soon have a list of
amendments on which both sides will agree to have votes. I don't think any of them really have anything to do with the Judiciary bill, but every Senator has a right to offer whatever amendments he or she wants, whether germane to the bill or not, and to get a vote on them. If they are all going to require rollcall votes, we should be done certainly sometime before midnight. Then we can pick up the next piece of legislation, which I understand we should have done by Saturday. Of course, the only amendments really involving this bill could have been done yesterday. We could have finished this bill yesterday.
I would like to speak briefly about the bipartisan Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act. This bill has received overwhelming support. Almost everyone recognizes the importance of strengthening the Federal Government's capacity to investigate and prosecute the kinds of financial frauds that have undermined our economy. The legislation has strong bipartisan support. I applaud Senator Grassley, who is the lead cosponsor. He worked with me to write this bill. He has been a leader on this issue.
Senators Specter and Snowe have joined as cosponsors. Many different law enforcement and good government organizations are supporting this bill as well, including the Fraternal Order of Police, the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association, the National Association of Assistant United States Attorneys, the Association of Certified Tax Examiners, and Taxpayers Against Fraud.
Now let me address the authorizations in the bill. I have rarely seen such detailed justification with regard to an authorization. I mention this because this is not an appropriations bill. It is authorizing legislation. It still has to go through the appropriations process. Every agency authorized to receive money in the bill has set out in detail exactly what it would do with that money if it is authorized and appropriated. The detail includes the number of agents, prosecutors, and other key personnel who would be hired, and each agency has explained why the added resources are needed. Those detailed justifications have been shared with anyone interested in reviewing them.
In total, the bill authorizes $245 million a year over the next 2 years to hire more than 300 Federal agents, more than 200 prosecutors, and another 200 forensic analysts and support staff to rebuild our Nation's fraud enforcement efforts. We have broken those numbers down agency by agency.
These resources for additional agents, analysts, and prosecutors are desperately needed. The number of fraud cases is now skyrocketing, but resources were shifted away from fraud investigations after 9/11. Today, the ranks of fraud investigators and prosecutors are drastically understocked, and thousands of fraud allegations go unexamined each month.
Reports of mortgage fraud are up nearly 50 percent from a year ago and have increased tenfold over the past 7 years. In the last 3 years, the number of criminal mortgage fraud investigations opened by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI, has more than doubled, and the FBI anticipates that number may double yet again. Despite this increase, the FBI currently has fewer than 250 special agents nationwide assigned to financial fraud cases, which is only a quarter of the number the Bureau had more than a decade ago at the time of the savings and loan crisis. At current levels, the FBI cannot even begin to investigate the more than 5000 mortgage fraud allegations the Treasury Department refers each month. Other agencies have documented similar crises in their ability to keep up with the rising pace of new cases.
We all know that fraud enforcement simply can't be adequately covered with funds allocated in the recently passed recovery legislation for State and local law enforcement. As someone who pushed strongly for recovery legislation that included State and local law enforcement, I know the purpose behind those funds and what they are dedicated to. It is intended to ensure that State and local law enforcement agencies and crime prevention programs could avoid layoffs, make new hires, and reinforce their work to prevent the increased crime so often associated with economic downturns. In so doing, these funds would reinforce and revitalize those neighborhoods that have experienced economic development and that could so easily backslide. State and local law enforcement fund are urgently needed for those vital purposes. They should not be diverted from State and local law enforcement needs to fund Federal fraud investigations.
Moreover, while states have done admirable work cracking down on mortgage fraud, the Federal Government must play a substantial role in this area. Mortgage fraud schemes and other financial fraud schemes often cover many States and jurisdictions, which hampers the ability of any State or local investigators and prosecutors to reach them. These schemes also are often extremely complex and labor-intensive to unravel, requiring the expertise and resources of the Federal Government and the mortgage fraud task forces in which Federal and State law enforcement officers work closely together. We simply cannot ask States to solve this enormous and complex problem on their own. I believe that we need to be good law enforcement partners and that the Federal Government needs to do its share. To fulfill those responsibilities these additional funds need to be authorized.
I agree that the $10 million in additional funding to the FBI for mortgage fraud enforcement in the omnibus appropriations bill is a good start, but it is just a small start to what is needed. I wish the economic recovery had been able to include an additional $50 million for the FBI that the Senate initially was willing to include, but that additional funding was stripped away. Unfortunately, to achieve bipartisan support and passage of the economic recovery package, those funds were eliminated. The funds currently being provided are insufficient to tackle the magnitude of this problem. I refer all Senators to the testimony before the Judiciary Committee by the Director of the FBI and the Deputy Director of the FBI and to the detailed justifications the FBI and other law enforcement agencies have provided.
I believe authorizing and funding fraud enforcement will save the government money. That is what the Justice Department has found. That is what Taxpayers Against Fraud has found. That is what the administration indicates in its Statement of Administration Policy in strong support of this bill. As the administration says: ``These additional resources will provide a return on investment through additional fines, penalties, restitution, damages, and forfeitures.'' I would add that strong fraud enforcement will also save money by deterring fraudulent conduct.
According to recent data provided by the Justice Department, the government recovers on average $32 for every dollar spent on criminal fraud litigation. Similarly, the nonpartisan group Taxpayers Against Fraud has found that the Government recovers $15 for every dollar spent in civil fraud cases. Just last year, the Justice Department recovered nearly $2 billion in civil false claims settlements, and, in criminal cases, courts ordered nearly $3 billion in restitution and forfeiture. Strengthening criminal and civil fraud enforcement is a sound investment, and this legislation will not only pay for itself, but should bring in money for the Federal Government.
If fraud goes unprosecuted and unpunished, then victims across America lose money. In many cases, American taxpayers take the loss directly. For example, in the case of many mortgage frauds, the Federal Government has guaranteed the loans, and when the fraud is uncovered, American taxpayers, as well as the victim, lose out. More directly, with the billions of dollars of Federal funds now going out through the recovery legislation, the Troubled Assets Relief Program, and other bailout programs, we should all recognize that enforcement will be essential to protect those recovery funds from fraud and to recover any money that is fraudulently taken. If we do not take action to investigate and prosecute this kind of fraud, Americans will lose far more money than this bill costs.
The only organizations that have opposed this legislation are the Heritage Foundation and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. They have argued that the legal fixes
in this bill constitute overreaching by the Federal Government. In fact, this bill does not overfederalize or overcriminalize.
Senator Grassley and I took great care in crafting it to avoid those kinds of excesses. The bill creates no new statutes and no new sentences. Instead, it focuses on modernizing existing statutes to reach unregulated conduct and on addressing flawed court decisions interpreting those laws. This is exactly the kind of Federal criminal legislation that these critics should appreciate. Rather than gratuitously adding new laws or expanding Federal jurisdiction, it acts in a targeted way to fill in gaps identified by investigators and prosecutors to make it easier for them to reach the conduct most relevant to the current financial crisis.
The bill amends the definition of ``financial institution'' in the criminal code in order to extend Federal fraud laws to mortgage lending businesses that are not directly regulated or insured by the Federal Government. These companies were responsible for nearly half the residential mortgage market before the economic collapse, yet they remain largely unregulated and outside the scope of traditional Federal fraud statutes. This change will finally apply the Federal fraud laws to private mortgage businesses like Countrywide Home Loans and GMAC Mortgage.
The bill would also amend the major fraud statute to protect funds expended under the Troubled Assets Relief Program and the economic stimulus package, including any government purchases of preferred stock in financial institutions. The U.S. Government has provided extraordinary economic support to our banking system, and we need to make sure that none of those funds are subject to fraud or abuse. This change will give Federal prosecutors and investigators the explicit authority they need to protect taxpayer funds.
This bill will also strengthen one of the core offenses in so many fraud cases--money laundering--which was significantly weakened by a recent Supreme Court case. In United States v. Santos, the Supreme Court misinterpreted the money laundering statutes, limiting their scope to only the ``profits'' of crimes, rather than the ``proceeds'' of the offenses. The Court's mistaken decision was contrary to congressional intent and will lead to financial criminals escaping culpability simply by claiming their illegal scams did not make a profit. Indeed, Ponzi schemes like the $65 billion fraud perpetrated by Bernard Madoff, which by definition turn no profit, are exempt from money laundering charges under this formulation. This erroneous decision must be corrected immediately, as dozens of money laundering cases have already been dismissed.
None of these changes constitute overcriminalization. Rather, they reach fraudulent conduct at the center of our ongoing economic crisis. Americans are rightly demanding accountability for this fraud, and we cannot have full accountability without the participation of Federal investigators and prosecutors armed with the tools and resources they need.
We can delay no further in taking decisive action to strengthen fraud enforcement and doing everything we can to fight the scourge of fraud that has contributed to our economic crisis. There is simply no good reason for us not to act. The administration ``strongly supports enactment'' of this bill. The Justice Department supports it, the FBI supports it, the Secret Service supports it, the TARP inspector general supports it, the HUD inspector general supports it, Federal and State law enforcement officers support it.
The bottom line, Madam President--before I lose my voice entirely-- is, this legislation is to stop people who have been robbing the retirement savings of Americans, who have been robbing their homes from under them, who have been robbing the money they have set aside for their kids' college education and getting away with it under some of the elaborate mortgage fraud schemes. They get away with it because there is no real ability to go after them. There is neither the money nor the personnel. This legislation gives both money and personnel but also gives teeth to the law.
I have said on this floor several times, if you have somebody who sets up a $100 million fraud scheme, they do not care what happens to the people in their way. They do not care if they ruin the lives of the people they are going after. They do not care if the people lose their homes because they figure if they get caught, they might have to give a little bit of the money back in a fine or otherwise. They are not deterred. They, obviously, do not have a sense of conscience or morality. They do not care if people lose their life savings. They do not care if people lose their retirement. They do not care if people lose their hope for the future. All they want is the money.
Madam President, I tell you right now, if these same people think they are going to go to prison for what they are doing, if they think they will spend time behind bars for years and years, then maybe-- maybe--some Americans may be able to keep their homes, some Americans may be able to keep their dreams, some Americans may be able to keep their retirement, some Americans may be able to keep sending their children to college.
People are now losing that dream. That is why there is strong bipartisan support for this bill. That is why I must admit I am somewhat frustrated that many have come here to try to bring amendments that have absolutely no place in this bill, and, if anything, would slow up the ability to protect Americans. But they have the right to do this.
We will soon have a list of amendments, we will set the list in, and we will set a time for final passage. And maybe--maybe--within a few weeks the President will be able to sign this legislation and people will be a lot more protected than they are now.
Madam President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.