Unanimous Consent Request--Executive Calendar
Mr. President, I want to thank the Senator from Kentucky for raising a very important issue. I would just like to have a little bit of clarification so that I understand exactly what has transpired and the exact question to which the…
Mr. President, I want to thank the Senator from Kentucky for raising a very important issue. I would just like to have a little bit of clarification so that I understand exactly what has transpired and the exact question to which the Senator from Kentucky would like a response.
My perception, my understanding, is this seems like a very simple and basic request. So I am surprised that we did not have a simple and straightforward answer. So I wonder if the Senator from Kentucky would just summarize briefly for me, so that I understand clearly the exact request that he made to the administration.
Am I correct in understanding that is currently the state of play? That is the most recent response the Senator has gotten in writing from the administration?
Further clarification: If the administration seems to be unwilling to state unequivocally that they recognize they do not have the legal authority to kill a noncombatant American on American soil, did they suggest under what circumstances they would?
Did they suggest a process by which they would identify an American citizen noncombatant on American soil who might be subject to being killed by a drone strike?
Mr. President, judging from the response, what I understand is
that there is a standard that applies overseas. But we have not gotten--correct me if I am mistaken--a definitive word as to whether that same standard would apply domestically to American citizens. If we have not gotten a definitive answer, then we, it seems to me--again, correct me if I am wrong--but then it would suggest to me that we have no idea what standard would be used. I cannot imagine that we would find it acceptable to be in a situation where an administration would suggest that using a drone to kill an American noncombatant on American soil, without even disclosing the process by which they would determine that was appropriate--this is kind of hard to understand. Am I understanding it incorrectly?
Mr. President, I will finish. I just want to make two points: One is I think we ought to have a robust debate about the circumstances under which we would use drone strikes overseas and understand the implications. Think about this. We have what is still, to the United States, a relatively new threat in the form of these nonstate actors, these terrorist organizations that are sometimes affiliated with each other, sometimes not, scattered around the globe. This is new.
In addition, we have new technology we never had before. It was not terribly long ago the idea of flying an unmanned drone and using it to kill a person who could be hundreds or thousands of miles away, that was completely implausible. Now, of course, we have the ability to do it. When new circumstances and new technology come to bear, we ought to have a discussion about when and whether and how it is appropriate to use that.
When we are talking about American noncombatants on American soil, I think the starting point ought to be, we are not going to do that. The onus ought to be on whoever has an explanation for when and whether and why and under what circumstances we would, and that ought to be debated very, very carefully and thoroughly. Until such time, I think it ought to be easy to acknowledge this is not going to take place.
If we cannot get a direct answer to that question, then I have to say I think the Senator from Kentucky is performing an important service in putting a spotlight on this. I commend him for doing it. I thank him for doing it. I am finished with my questions.
Madam President, I wish to spend a couple of moments here revisiting the context in which this discussion occurred. I want to commend the Senator from Kentucky for raising what I think is an extremely important issue and forcing the attention of this body to this issue at an appropriate time, which he has done, and, I might add, at great personal inconvenience to himself.
This arose from a letter the Senator from Kentucky sent to Mr. Brennan, the nominee for the Director of Central Intelligence, and the response he got. These are short letters. I want to review this so it is very clear exactly what was posed and what the response was and where we are at the moment in this debate.
The letter from the Senator from Kentucky begins:
Dear Mr. Brennan: In consideration of your nomination to be
the director of the Central Intelligence Agency, I have
repeatedly requested that you provide answers to several
questions clarifying your role in the approval of lethal
force against terrorism suspects, particularly those who are
U.S. citizens. Your past actions in this regard as well as
your view of the limitations to which you are subject are of
critical importance in assessing your qualifications to lead
the CIA. If it is not clear that you will honor the limits
placed upon the executive branch by the Constitution, then
the Senate should not confirm you to lead the CIA.
Clearly, this is the idea that is under scrutiny this evening.
The letter goes on to say:
During your confirmation process in the Senate Select
Committee on Intelligence, committee members have quite
appropriately made a request similar to questions I have
raised in my previous letter to you, that you expound on your
views on the limits of executive power in using lethal force
against U.S. citizens, especially when operating on U.S.
soil. In fact, the chairman of the SSCI--
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence
Senator Feinstein, specifically asked you in post-hearing
questions, for the record, whether the administration could
carry out drone strikes inside the United States. In your
response, you emphasize that the administration ``has not
carried out'' such strikes, and ``has no intention of doing
so.'' I do not find this response sufficient.
Let me just add editorially, I do not know how anyone could find that sufficient. It clearly is an evasion of the question. That doesn't answer the question that was posed by Senator Feinstein, just as we haven't been able to get an answer to the question posed by the Senator from Kentucky.
The letter goes on to say:
The question that I and many others have asked is not
whether the administration has or intends to carry out drone
strikes inside the United States, but whether it believes it
has the authority to do so. This is an important distinction
that should not be ignored.
And this, of course, goes to the heart of the question: Does this administration believe it has the authority to carry out a lethal strike by a drone against an American citizen on American soil.
The letter goes on to say:
Just last week, President Obama also avoided this question
when posed to him directly. Instead of addressing the
question of whether the administration could kill a U.S.
citizen on American soil, he used a similar line that ``there
has never been a drone used on an American citizen on
American soil.''
The evasive replies from the administration to this valid
question have only confused the issue further without getting
us any closer to an actual answer.
I would say that is--again, this is my editorial comment--I think that is a generous assessment. When a direct question is asked and the party to whom the question is directed repetitively evades the question, it makes one seriously wonder what their intentions are.
The letter goes on to say:
For that reason, I, once again, request you answer the
following question: Do you believe that the President has the
power to authorize lethal force such as a drone strike
against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil and without a trial? I
believe the only acceptable answer to this is no. Until you
directly and clearly answer, I plan to use every procedural
option at my disposal to delay your confirmation and bring
added scrutiny to this issue and the administration's
policies on the use of lethal force.
The American people are rightly concerned and they deserve
a frank and open discussion on these policies.
Sincerely, Rand Paul, M.D., United States Senator.
I have to say, this is a very straightforward and simple question. It has been posed clearly. It has been posed repeatedly.
Now I want to share with my colleagues the answer, such as it is, that we have received, the most recent answer that was directed to the Senator from Kentucky which, again, I would suggest is not responsive to the question.
A letter dated March 4, addressed to Senator Paul, says:
On February 20, 2013, you--
Referring to Senator Paul--
wrote to John Brennan requesting additional information
concerning the Administration's views about whether ``the
President has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a
drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, and
without trial.''
The letter goes on to say:
As members of this Administration have previously
indicated, the U.S. government has not carried out drone
strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing
so. As a policy matter, moreover, we reject the use of
military force where well-established law enforcement
authorities in this country provide the best means for
incapacitating a terrorist threat. We have a long history of
using the criminal justice system to incapacitate individuals
located in our country who pose a threat to the United States
and its interests abroad. Hundreds of individuals have been
arrested and convicted of terrorism-related offenses in our
federal courts.
The question you have posed is therefore entirely
hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no President
will ever have to confront. It is possible, I suppose, to
imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be
necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and
applicable laws of the United States for the President to
authorize the military to use lethal force within the
territory of the United States. For example, the President
could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the
military to use such force if necessary to protect the
homeland in the circumstances of a catastrophic attack like
the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11,
2001.
Were such an emergency to arise, I would examine the
particular facts and circumstances before advising the
President on the scope of his authority.
Sincerely,
Eric H. Holder, Jr.
Attorney General
The reason I read the entire letter is because I did not want anyone to think any part of this was taken out of context or anything was being left out.
When you read the entire letter, in response to the entire letter that was sent as a request, I think it is very clear. This administration refuses to answer a simple and very important and very legitimate question.
Our Attorney General suggests that under a certain set of circumstances--which he will not specify any guiding principles or rules that would allow us to understand those circumstances--he would examine the facts and circumstances and then advise the President on the scope of his authority.
There is no suggestion of what legal authority he has to do this. There is no description of the constitutional authority. I find this very disturbing. We have all observed the very new developments that we are experiencing in national security. The minority leader alluded to this in some respects.
As I mentioned earlier today, there is no question we have a relatively new phenomenon in our national security challenges. It is only in very recent times that we have come to understand the nature of a whole new kind of enemy. It is not just a nation state anymore, which has historically been the nature of military threats. But now there is a very different kind of threat--dispersed, somewhat affiliated, sometimes affiliated, hard to discern--a geographically widespread network of terrorists. That is very different than the traditional nation state. That is a different kind of threat, and we have spent a lot of time trying to come to terms with how best to address this.
In an overlapping period of time, a new technology has emerged. We have developed it. It is an amazing technology that gives us the ability from vast distances away to send out a very sophisticated unmanned aircraft that is quite lethal and quite capable of destroying a target. I think most of us probably feel that there are many cases where this is an appropriate tool under an appropriate set of circumstances. But, frankly, I think it should be the subject of an ongoing discussion: How would we use this? Under what circumstances? Does the President have unlimited unilateral authority? That is a discussion we ought to have about the use of this technology overseas where I think, as I say, it has a very important, very useful, very legitimate function.
But when we are talking about using this, the American Government using this military asset to kill American citizens on American soil, I am a little shocked that there is not an automatic presumption that that is not permissible--certainly not legal. I cannot understand the constitutional basis for this. I would certainly suggest that the burden ought to be on those who would suggest that that is permissible.
So what the Senator from Kentucky has said is: Just tell us the answer to this question. Do you believe you actually do have this authority? And could you tell us that? If they believe they have this authority--and since they will not answer unequivocally that they lack the authority, it is hard to infer anything other than that perhaps they think they do have this authority.
It obviously raises a whole lot of very important questions, such as under what circumstances would you feel you have the authority to exercise this power? And exactly who would be targeted? And how would you decide whom to target? And in the event you are carrying out a strike using lethal force of this magnitude on American soil against an American citizen, what kind of criteria would govern your judgment about the risks that would be imposed on innocent people who are in the vicinity? And what about any judicial review at all? Would there be any appropriate role for it because, of
course, we have a very long tradition of due process.
There are a lot of Americans who have serious reservations about the idea of indefinite detention on American soil. Indefinite detention is pretty tame compared to being destroyed by a drone.
So I would suggest the failure of the administration to answer this basic question of whether they believe they have the authority to do something that is completely unprecedented is a very fundamental and important question and completely legitimate. And it is completely appropriate for this body to insist on an answer to this question before we would go ahead and confirm a person who would have enormous power and authority over a variety of national security issues.
I want to commend the Senator from Kentucky for putting a bright light on this issue. This is a very important issue, and, as I mentioned earlier, he has done it at great personal inconvenience to himself because he has a passionate commitment to the liberty of the American citizens. He manifests that all the time in many ways, and this is one of the ways he is doing it. I commend him for that.
I would conclude my question by addressing the Senator, through the Presiding Officer. My question for the Senator is, has there been any change in the status of the lack of response from the administration since the last time we have heard from the administration?