Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum. I suggest the absence of a quorum. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. Mr. President, I know of no Senators seeking recognition for…
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I know of no Senators seeking recognition for discussing the amendment any further. The amendment has been described by the distinguished Senator from New Jersey. The Senate is well aware of its intent. These are funds that are being directed to the situation in Darfur in the Sudan. There is a U.N. mission there with responsibilities for helping to deal with the misery and challenges to life that exist there.
I ask the author of the amendment if that is the purpose of the amendment? It is money that would go for the purpose of supporting the work of the U.N. mission in Darfur?
I thank the distinguished Senator for his explanation and his description of the language.
I know of no requests for yeas and nays on the amendment. I suggest we proceed to a voice vote.
I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I am pleased to bring to the attention of the Senate several amendments that have been cleared on both sides of the aisle.
First, I call up amendment No. 3612 on behalf of Mr. McConnell regarding assistance for the West Bank in Gaza.
I ask unanimous consent the reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
There is a modification of the amendment at the desk.
I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 3719 on behalf of Mr. Biden and others regarding the Sudan.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
There is a modification of the amendment at the desk.
I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 3823 on behalf of Mr. Leahy regarding Colombia.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that it be in order to call up and consider amendment No. 3798 on behalf of Mr. Kennedy regarding the AmeriCorps Segal awards.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 3746 on behalf of Mr. Lieberman which makes a technical correction to the bill.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 3699 on behalf of Mr. Cornyn regarding the distribution of CDBG funds.
Mr. President, this amendment has been cleared on both sides, and we urge its adoption.
Mr. President, I thank the Senate for its cooperation in moving forward on this bill. As others may know, there have been two amendments that I know of that were going to be debated and voted on this morning which have been withdrawn. We are making good progress in the consideration of Senators' amendments. If Senators have amendments, this is the time now to let us know.
As you know, we are under cloture. We are not going to permit nongermane amendments to be brought up. So there will be objections made as a general proposition to accelerate the further discussion and consideration of this bill. We hope to complete action on the bill today. That certainly is possible with the fact that Senators are proceeding to let us know about their amendments that are germane. There is a list of amendments Senators have told us about that we expect to be called up. This is the time to do that. So we urge Senators to help us proceed on an orderly basis to complete action on the bill today.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, if the Senator will yield, I am checking with the chairman and ranking member of the Appropriations Subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services to see what the reaction is to the amendment. They are having a hearing as we speak over in the Appropriations Committee. So I feel obliged to get their advice and counsel as to what response ought to be made, if any, to the Senator's amendment. We have no objection to proceeding or to having a vote on the amendment, but the Senate is entitled to know what the reaction might be.
Mr. President, I thank the Senator very much for that indulgence. If there are others who wish to offer amendments, I am prepared to ask unanimous consent to temporarily lay aside the amendment of the Senator from Massachusetts to permit other amendments to be offered. I do ask unanimous consent for that.
Mr. President, to respond to the Senator's comments, in looking at the list of amendments that are not germane, these two amendments appear to be not germane postcloture and therefore not in order. We are checking to see what the reaction is from the authorizing committee. What that would amount to is this is an authorization that has not been approved. The language amounts to an authorization of a water project that has not been approved by the committee that has legislative jurisdiction over the issues. So we are awaiting a response and a reaction from the legislative committee to the amendments.
I suggest we move on to other amendments that may be in order. The Kennedy amendment was temporarily laid aside so the Senator could discuss her two amendments. Having done so, I think we can return to the Kennedy amendment and then let the Senate work its will on that amendment. The Senator from Massachusetts has asked for the yeas and nays on his amendment, and we could proceed to a vote.
We were trying to get a reaction from the chairman of the appropriations subcommittee having jurisdiction over the pandemic influenza vaccine issue, the Labor, Health and Human Services Appropriations subcommittee. They are having a hearing right now and we haven't had a response to our inquiry about the reaction. We also think the leaders are entitled to notice that this could be subject to a recorded vote to get the reaction as to whether this is the time to do that or if they are available to discuss it, if the leader wants to discuss the issue. So awaiting those advices, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I understand that two other amendments have now been cleared for the consideration of the Senate.
Amendment No. 3713, As Modified
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent to call up amendment No. 3713.
Mr. President, this is an amendment that was offered last evening by the distinguished Senator from North Carolina, Mr. Burr. As I say, it has been cleared on both sides. I ask unanimous consent the amendment be modified with the modifications at the desk.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I now advise that we can call up an amendment of Senator Kennedy regarding democracy in Iraq.
Amendment No. 3686, As Modified
Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 3686, on behalf of Senator Kennedy and others, regarding democracy in Iraq.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I send a modification to the desk.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, the Senator is correct. It is the intention the pending amendment be set aside so we can consider Kennedy amendment No. 3688, as modified, upon which the yeas and nays have been ordered. I ask unanimous consent that the Senator from Massachusetts be recognized until the hour of 12 o'clock, at which time we will have a vote.
Madam President, reserving the right to object, I do so only for the purpose of checking to be sure that this is an amendment that has not been made out of order because of the invocation of cloture by the Senate.
I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Madam President, continuing to reserve the right to object, it is my understanding this amounts to legislation and may be subject to a point of order. For that reason, authorization of basing on a permanent basis in a foreign country--it is not an appropriation of funds, as I understand it. It is strictly legislation and may very well be subject to a point of order.
I withdraw my reservation.
Madam President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, some housekeeping items have been cleared on both sides.
Amendment Nos. 3618, 3619, 3714, and 3716, withdrawn
I ask unanimous consent to withdraw amendment No. 3618, the subject of which was addressed by division II of Coburn amendment No. 3641.
I also ask unanimous consent to withdraw amendments numbered 3619, 3714, and 3716.
Mr. President, what is the pending business?
Amendment No. 3855
I think we are ready to proceed to agree to that on a voice vote.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, we continue to make good progress. We hope to complete action either this evening or tomorrow on the bill. It could be, in consultation with the leader, possible to complete action on the bill today and have a vote on final passage tomorrow if we are going to go a little late this evening, but we don't anticipate a late evening. We hope to be able to adjourn at a reasonable hour. With the cooperation of Senators, we can do that.
We have cloture, which has been invoked, which limits amendments for consideration to germane amendments. We have entered into colloquies and we think some of these amendments are going to be withdrawn. We hope if Senators have an intention of disposing of their amendments, if they want a vote, now is a good time to come to the floor and make that request known. We can dispose of those amendments.
We urge the cooperation of Senators, and if we get to some point, we may offer amendments for Senators, if they are in order and pending and have not yet been called up. As a matter of notice, we intend to press ahead and complete action on the bill within a reasonable time. And we will, with the cooperation of all Senators.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, there are some Senators who are in a meeting with the Secretary of Defense and the Secretary of State. We are not going to go to a vote right now because of that conflict with some Senators. But we have an opportunity for those who want to speak on this amendment or any other pending amendment that has not been adequately discussed at this point.
Let me say with regard to the amendment of the Senator from Arizona that I can remember in my State time and time again when we have had severe weather disasters; wet-weather-related disasters. The pecan growers, in particular, would inevitably have a difficult time making a case for the losses they sustained when Federal disasters have been declared and eligibility for Federal assistance had been promised because it is not the kind of program crop, so-called, such as cotton, rice, wheat, corn, that are traditionally supported by Federal programs.
It almost takes someone at the local level who understands yield, production, and how records are kept where the State governments are much better situated in those States to have knowledge and understanding of the crops and of the values of trees and the crops they produce. Peaches is another example. In my part of Mississippi where I grew up, we had a good many peach orchards. We had a good many pecan orchards. And those who live in the rural areas of our State traditionally depend upon these crops to help sustain them.
We are talking about not the kind of agriculture that produces millions of dollars of income but small amounts of income to supplement family needs. Workers in the area can move from orchard to orchard volunteering to help harvest these crops.
I can remember as a young boy my grandparents who lived near Utica, MS, would traditionally kind of let the word go throughout the community that they were going to be picking up pecans on a certain day. And some of the workers would come and pick up pecans and in payment would get part of the pecans. They would get a part of the harvest. That was the payment. Money was short.
We are not talking about wealthy landowners. We are talking about subsistence production in many cases which will qualify for the benefits under this title. If this amendment is approved, they won't get anything.
These funds are going to the States so that at the local level a determination can be made as to the amount of compensation and support those who are disaster victims in these areas of agriculture are entitled to receive.
I am hopeful the Senate will reject this amendment. I just spoke to two parts of it--orchards and the pecan trees--because from my personal experience I know a little bit about that.
But driving through my State after these disasters, I can testify to the widespread damage to orchards, to pine forests on which people depend for their livelihood.
In that part of the State where the storm's destruction was the greatest, there is very little of the traditional large cotton plantation areas. That is not that part of the State. That would be up in the mid to northern part of the State along the Mississippi Delta. That is where the heavy production of cotton is. It may be up in the prairie area of northeast Mississippi and north central Mississippi.
Where this storm's destruction was the heaviest, there are a lot of people who lost pecan orchards, trees, or peach orchards.
Dairy farms were seriously damaged, and dairy is included in this part of the title. Beef cattle production and those things that are grown to sustain those herds of cattle and to feed them were damaged severely.
I am hopeful the Senate will understand that this is not something that the committee made up, either. I am not making this up. These are the facts as I saw them and that I can say to the Senate justify the inclusion of these funds in this bill.
I urge the Senate to reject the amendment.
Mr. President, I rise to simply advise the Senator that I am told by staff that the authorizing committee has some concerns with the amendment and would oppose proceeding to a vote on the amendment at this time without the opportunity of discussing it with other Senators.
That is the reason I didn't raise my hand to authorize the yeas and nays. I have no objection to the yeas and nays being ordered, but I didn't want us to proceed to a vote without the benefit of the advice and counsel of the legislative committee that sent word they have some concerns about the amendment. I don't know what the concerns are.
As I reminded the Senate a moment ago, there is a meeting with the Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State. Some Senators are at that meeting and I don't want to unnecessarily infringe on their interests by having a recorded vote as they are meeting on subjects of this legislation. This is a bill that funds the Department of Defense and the Department of State with supplemental appropriations to help pay for ongoing activities in the Middle East. This is a very important subject for Senators to understand at this particular time.
I am sympathetic to their situation and think they should be able to question the Secretaries about the use of funds in this bill and the general situation in the area where we are fighting the war on terror and trying to protect the security interests of our country.
Having said all of that, I don't want to slow down the Senate's consideration of legislation, but I hope we would not proceed to a vote on either the McCain amendment at this time or the Vitter amendment. We can wait until a little later. We will be on the bill for the balance of the afternoon. We hope to complete action on the bill at least by tomorrow morning. We appreciate the cooperation of all Senators and particularly those who are helping identify things that need to be addressed in this bill because of the devastating disasters that occurred in the southeast and the gulf coast region. They need the money now. We are not trying to slow down the action on the bill. We will not do that.
I thank the Senators from Louisiana for understanding and hope they will not push for a vote right now.
Mr. President, if the Senator will yield, we understand the meeting with Senators and the Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense is still going on. We are advised that a good time for the vote on the McCain amendment would be about 3:30. You are getting wound up.
Mr. President, there are two amendments that have been cleared for consideration by the Senate.
Amendment No. 3605
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that it be in order to call up and consider amendment No. 3605 on behalf of Mr. Lott regarding Armed Forces retirement home.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that further reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 3657 on behalf of Senator Leahy and others regarding international disaster and famine assistance and hurricane relief.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that further reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I send a modification to the desk.
Mr. President, this amendment is offset by a reduction in foreign economic assistance.
No, it is not. If the Senator will yield, as I understand it, it shifts funds from a foreign economic assistance account to an account to provide disaster assistance in Guatemala for damages and expenses sustained in a hurricane.
My reading is that it transfers money from a foreign economic assistance account to one that provides disaster assistance for damages sustained in Guatemala as a result of a hurricane-- Hurricane Stan I think was the name of it.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I am advised that we are now prepared to go to a vote on the McCain amendment. For that purpose, I ask for the regular order.
Amendment No. 3616
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I have been advised that the Senator from Arizona, Mr. McCain, wants to speak on the amendment and is on his way to the floor to do so. So awaiting his arrival, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I am advised that the Senator from Arizona also wants to speak to the amendment that has just been offered. So unless there is someone else who seeks recognition at this time, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I make a point of order en bloc against a list of amendments on the grounds that they are not germane under rule XXII. The amendments are as follows:
Warner amendment No. 3620; Vitter amendment No. 3628, as modified; Wyden amendment No. 3665; Santorum amendment No. 3640, as modified; Salazar amendment No. 3645; Vitter amendment No. 3668; Obama amendment No. 3693; Obama amendment No. 3694; Obama amendment No. 3695; Obama amendment No. 3697; Menendez amendment No. 3675; Conrad amendment No. 3715; Levin amendment No. 3710; Schumer amendment No. 3723; Schumer amendment No. 3724; Cornyn amendment No. 3722; Cornyn amendment No. 3672; Byrd amendment No. 3708; Landrieu amendment No. 3750; and Landrieu amendment No. 3752.
Mr. President, I raise a point of order against these amendments, that they are not germane under rule XXII.
All the amendments that I read?
My understanding is that the Chair sustains the point of order.
I thank the Chair.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that when the Senate resumes the supplemental appropriations bill tomorrow morning, the Senate proceed to consider votes on or in relation to the following, with no intervening action or debate or second-degree amendments:
Thune amendment No. 3705, and Vitter amendment No. 3728, as modified.
I further ask unanimous consent that the bill be read a third time and the Senate proceed to a vote on passage with no intervening action or debate; provided further that following passage, the Senate insist on its amendments and request a conference with the House, and the Chair then be authorized to appoint conferees on the part of the Senate.
Yes. I say to the Senator from Wisconsin that I do recall that discussion.
I thank the Senator from Wisconsin for expressing his concerns and for providing the specific information regarding the effect of energy costs on agriculture. The Senator is correct, we will be under tremendous pressure in conference to limit the amount of spending in this bill. We all know how important the farming economy is to this country and how badly farm income is being impaired by high energy costs. I would tell my friend from Wisconsin that I will work with him, and other Senators, to make sure that all farmers are treated fairly. The Senator's point about the costs affecting dairy producers, along with the others he mentioned, is well taken, and I hope an accommodation can be made to make sure all these farmers are treated equitably.