30-Something Working Group
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me. I think it is appropriate for us tonight to kind of take another tack, a little more specific. We know that the President's privatization plan…
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me.
I think it is appropriate for us tonight to kind of take another tack, a little more specific. We know that the President's privatization plan for the Social Security system is a bad one. It means benefit cuts across the board to the tune of 40 percent for most. Under the President's plan, middle-class workers earning $58,000 a year would be hit with a 42 percent benefit cut. And the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Davis), who was here last week, said very eloquently that this Social Security system is a system that is put together and was put together to solidify the country and to talk about our common interests, our common goals, and our common humanity, and how we have an obligation in this Congress to maintain that system and not to say and begin to promote the kind of attitude that says, hey, everybody is on their own. They go here and they make the kind of money that they want. They invest in the stock market, and if they go belly up in the stock market, they are on their own. And that is basically what the President's plan says.
We have a system that works, a system that is a safety net for many American people who have struggled. But the point I think we need to make tonight, which we have touched upon over and over and over again, is the issue of jobs in the United States of America. If we are not participating in an economy that is growing, there are not going to be the kind of resources put into the program.
I was at a town hall meeting on Social Security a couple of weeks ago, and I had a lady stand up, my age, and say ``I do not want to put 4 percent of my Social Security taxes into a private account'' because she figured out the math. She makes $19,000 a year. Four percent of $19,000 a year is not enough to retire on even if the stock market is going gangbusters.
So this may sound nice to have private accounts. If one is making $150,000 a year, they know how to invest their money. They know how to pull it out and put it back in. The President's plan does not allow that. So if we say the same exact thing to someone who is making $19,000 and they are allowed to invest their 4 percent of $19,000 a year, there is not going to be enough there for them to retire, and they are going to lose their Social Security benefit.
This is a risky proposition, and it is why only 30 percent of the American people are saying this is a good idea. It makes me become more and more aware and concerned that this is a whole ploy. While we are cutting food stamps and we are cutting Medicaid, we have the whole country having this debate about Social Security over here. And we do not want to talk about what is going on in Iraq, and we do not want to talk about the kind of cuts that are being made in the veterans' health care program. We have to keep the discussion on an issue that is highly volatile and has been known to be a third rail of politics.
Now, I want to share with the American people and our friends who are here tonight a chart. We are talking about jobs and job creation in the country. This chart shows the U.S. trade balance in goods, durable goods. This goes from 1979 to 2004. In 1979 we had a trade deficit of $24 billion, in 1979. And we do not really need to see the numbers. We just need to see the bars. And it slowly got worse, got better in the early 1990s and then the dipsy-do all throughout the 1990s. But in 1998 our trade deficit in goods got to $230 billion. That was in 1998. And then from 1998 to 2004, a $651 billion trade deficit in the United States of America. We are buying $651 billion more worth of goods than we are selling.
If we want to fix Social Security and we want to have enough money in our local communities to fund our schools and our libraries and Medicaid at the State and Federal level, we need to fix this problem, or we are never going to have enough money to do anything. Four percent of whatever one wants to put in their side account is never going to be enough because we are going to have more people for 19 and 20 and $30,000 a year than we are for 70 or 80 or 90. And this is the main culprit.
And today Secretary Snow came out with the weakest report on the Chinese currency manipulation that we have ever seen and basically gave the Chinese a free pass when they are manipulating their currency by 40 percent. That is why this number looks like it does.
I am going to get the other chart out here that is dealing with annual trade with China. There are three different graphs here. The gold graph, the gold line, with the blue dots is what we are importing from China. This starts off in 1985; it ends up in 2004. The blue line is what we are exporting to China, and then the trade balance. What we are importing from China is going through the roof, $200 billion of goods coming into this country. We are exporting to China virtually nothing. The trade gap just with the Chinese is $162 billion; $162 billion we are buying from the Chinese without the ability to sell.
We are not making this up, Mr. Speaker.
This is not the ``Kendrick Meek Report.''
Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman will continue to yield, he brings up a great point because over the next 10 years, and I do not know if he said this before I arrived, in the next 10 years we are going to have to borrow $2 trillion to fund this privatization scheme. Over the next 20 years we are going to have to borrow $5 trillion. This is billion. We have to borrow $5 trillion to fund this privatization
scheme. So it is just brilliant that he brought that up in such a timely fashion because it ties into this.
As we are running a $162 billion trade deficit with the Chinese at the same time that they are stealing our manufacturing, stealing our jobs, we are borrowing the money right now for our annual deficit that we have, from the Chinese, $500 billion.
So what do we have to do to fix this problem? One, we have to balance the budget. But if we are already borrowing $500 billion from the Japanese and the Chinese, why would we then go out and say let us go borrow another $5 trillion to roll the dice on and play roulette?
Mr. Speaker, that is exactly right. We are going on the record of what this administration has consistently told us and told the American people, and the gentleman is exactly right. With the prescription drug benefit we were told it was $350 billion, then it became $400 billion, we passed it at 3 in the morning here. Then a month or two later, after the election, it turned out to be $700 billion, and then it went to $1.1 trillion. When we passed it, it was $400 billion. And someone in this administration told the actuary who had the real numbers, do not tell Congress.
Wait a minute. That is not telling the American people. I represent 700,000 people; the gentleman represents 700,000 people.
They withheld the administration from your constituents and my constituents, and we made a faulty decision here on the House floor where many Members would not have voted for it. When we go back and look at the war, what we were told about the war: we are greeted as liberators, we will use the oil for reconstruction and it will only cost us $50 billion when we have already over $300 billion invested in the war; all of these things that turned out not to be true.
Here we are today being promised a scheme that we have to borrow $5 trillion to implement. It is bad enough we have to borrow it and pay it back; we have to pay the interest on it too. Talk about sticking it to the next generation.
Lockbox.
Not personal. It is not personal.
Mr. Speaker, the gentleman brought up a great point, and we will share some more information from the Department of the Treasury of the United States of America. This is the national debt, and I believe this is moving. You can go to a Web site, next week we will have to bring the Web site up so you can see, but this is actually always moving: $7.79 trillion in debt that the United States owes other interests. Your share of the debt, I say to the gentleman from Florida, $26,349.
Not just yourself. Your wife, your kids, my wife, constituents, people watching at home, if you are watching this program.
Everybody, $26,300 you owe.
The point I would like to bring up and highlight again is what the gentleman brought up, talking about what college students owe. The average college student owes 20,000 bucks.
Yes, even further behind. So someone out there watching, a parent that has a kid in college, the average college debt, $20,000; average share of the national debt that you owe, $26,000.
And, think about it, if you are having a baby this year and project this number out, if we keep going down the road we are going down, because we already had to lift the debt ceiling in Congress several months ago that raised this even further so the United States could go back out and borrow even more money, so here we have a situation where we owe this, each individual owes this.
Now, if a baby is born today, guess what? They owe this right out of the gate. So project this out, this number, $26,349, project it out 18, 20, 22 years and imagine what that number is going to be if we keep going down the road we are going down now, and then add to that what college tuition costs are going to be 20 years from now. They have doubled over the past 4 or 5 years, I know for sure in Ohio, and I know in Florida, so let that rate continue and let this rate continue and let us keep borrowing money and have to pay interest on that. Let that continue.
So we are saying that a young baby that is born today has a tremendous tax burden on their head, from the national debt that they owe, their share, plus what they are going to owe for going to college; and if they go on to get a master's degree or advanced degree, it would be even more, and then the President's proposal to borrow $5 trillion more. What are we doing to the next generation? At the same time, we are not making the proper investments in health and education and the kinds of things that will eventually move the country forward.
Mr. Speaker, the Web site is www.house.gov/budget.democrats underscored, to get the deficit ticker to see what the real number is as this continues to move.
The same in Ohio. 315,000 folks that receive survivor benefits. 16 percent of people who receive a Social Security check in Ohio, 16 percent of them are survivor benefits. So this is a program that helps people who lose a parent at a very young age, they are under the age of 18 and they need a little assistance.
And that is what the gentleman from Alabama (Mr. Davis) talked about last week is a sense of community where we are going to have a system that protects and looks out for each other, gets each other's back. I think it is very important that we recognize that Social Security is really the best system, because it inherently embodies what is best about the country, and I think it is great.
I want to just raise a question here. We are kind of running out of time here. We only have a few more minutes left. We have a little bit of time.
But we have less than we had when we started, and we are closer to the end than we are to the beginning, so I am going to try to make a final point or two towards the end here.
The question really, and I want to ask the people at home, is this: What do you think, someone watching at home or if you are having a discussion with your friends over dinner, or your family over dinner tonight, what do you think the greatest crisis is in the United States of America?
What do you think this Chamber and our friends across the hall and the White House, what do you think we should be focusing on? Do you think that this problem that is 47 years away or 40 years away or 35 years away? We have all kinds of different numbers, we will give you the benefit, say 35 years away. Do you think that is the greatest problem facing the country, or do you think that the 40-some million Americans without health insurance, maybe that is the greatest crisis facing the country, or do you think the rising costs of health insurance, if you are a small business owner, or you are in a union and you are trying to negotiate a contract or you are trying to run a school system, and you are the superintendent or you are the teacher, maybe that is the greatest crisis facing the country.
How about, and I am sure in your district just like mine, Youngstown City Schools, Akron City Schools, Cleveland City Schools, 80, 85 percent of the kids qualify for free and reduced lunch. Maybe that is a more imminent crisis than a Social Security issue that is, you know, 40 years out.
And I just ask the American people to ask themselves, what do you think the great crisis is in the country today? The fact that the trade deficits, the debt, the annual deficits that we are running? To me, I share my opinion, those are the issues. That 85 percent of the kids in a school district in Ohio qualify for free and reduced lunch, that 50 or 60 or 70 percent of those kids live below the poverty line. That to me is a crisis.
How are we going to compete with the Chinese workers? How are we going to compete with the Indians if we are not able to educate our kids and our kids are living in poverty? To me that is the crisis. That people do not get the kind of health care that they deserve, that if you have a lot of money and you are able to get yourself into the Cleveland Clinic or some of the great hospitals around the country, you are going to be fine, but if not you are on your own.
I just think that is it. Thanks for reiterating it. It is just what is the crisis? What do you at home want us to deal with, because we work for you. What do you want us to deal with here? And we are trying to bring up issues like China and how we are going to deal with that tremendous threat, and the administration brushes it off.
You know, we want to deal with health care and the amount of poverty, not necessarily for compassionate reasons, although some may feel that way. But because we need everyone playing. We are going on the field now with only half a team, and that is getting very dangerous.
So as we wrap it up, I want to share again, send us an e-mail, 30somethingdems @mail.house.gov. Do I have time to read?
I want to read the e-mail.
I just gave it. 30somethingdemocrats@mail. house.gov. Send us an e-mail. I want to read one, we only have time to read one here, from Mark Sanchez from Las Cruces, New Mexico. We are making it out West, somewhat of a political junkie, 25 year old active duty service member stationed out there.
And last week he saw us talking about Social Security, very hot topic. He considers himself very informed, and it bothers him to a great degree that those in my age group do not care about what the President and Congress are doing.
I personally feel that the President's plan for Social Security is not one with the people in mind, but rather one with his friends on Wall Street in mind. I may be young, but I am not blind to record deficits that are causing this country to go deeper and deeper into debt.
I believe the President's plan is wrong for America. I believe this is an
issue that can be addressed and thought over as time goes on while more important matters that are hurting this country are addressed. He said very similar things to what we were saying, issues such as health care, immigration and energy are problems that face Americans now, not 30 years down the road.
I am happy to see that you are willing to stand up for the people rather than special interest groups that have too much control in Congress these days. Please keep up your hard work because it is needed.
People like you keep his personal hopes alive for one day standing on the floor of the House of Representatives and debating issues and problems that face our country. So we have an aspiring Member of Congress here, Mark Sanchez. So thank you, Mark, for sending that in.
Again, 30somethingdems @mail.house.gov. You also go to the site I gave you earlier to check out the deficit clock too.