Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 5) to improve patient access to health care services and provide improved medical care by reducing the excessive burden the liability system places on the health care delivery system.
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March 12, 2003
Provides for 80 minutes equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary and 40 minutes equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on Energy and Commerce. The rule waives all points of order against consideration of the bill. The rule provides that in lieu of the amendments recommended by the Committees on the Judiciary and on Energy and Commerce now printed in the bill, the amendment in the nature of a substitute printed in the Rules Committee report (H. Rept. 108-34) shall be considered as adopted. The rule provides that H.Res. 126 is laid on the table.
March 12, 2003 • 10:09 PM
The House Committee on Rules reported an original measure, H. Rept. 108-34, by Mr. Reynolds.
March 12, 2003
Placed on the House Calendar, Calendar No. 11.
March 12, 2003
Considered as privileged matter. (consideration: CR H1817-1829)
March 13, 2003 • 10:13 AM
DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H. Res. 139.
March 13, 2003 • 10:15 AM
On ordering the previous question Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 225 - 201 (Roll no. 61).
March 13, 2003 • 11:51 AM
Passed/agreed to in House: On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by recorded vote: 225 - 201 (Roll no. 62).(text: CR H1817)
March 13, 2003 • 12:05 PM
On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by recorded vote: 225 - 201 (Roll no. 62). (text: CR H1817)
March 13, 2003 • 12:05 PM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
March 13, 2003 • 12:05 PM
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Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 139, I call up the bill (H.R. 5) to improve patient access to health care services and provide improved medical care by reducing the excessive burden the…
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 139, I call up the bill (H.R. 5) to improve patient access to health care services and provide improved medical care by reducing the excessive burden the liability system places on the health care delivery system, and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on H.R. 5, the bill under consideration.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, our Nation is facing a health care crisis driven by uncontrolled litigation. Medical professional liability insurance rates have soared, causing major insurers to either drop coverage or to raise premiums to unaffordable levels. Doctors are being forced to abandon patients and practices or to retire early, particularly in high-risk specialties such as emergency medicine, brain surgery and obstetrics and gynecology. Women are being particularly hard hit, as are low income and rural neighborhoods.
H.R. 5, the HEALTH Act, is modeled after California's highly successful health care litigation reforms enacted in 1975 and known under the acronym MICRA. California's reforms, which are included in the HEALTH Act, include a $250,000 cap on noneconomic damages, limits on the contingency fees lawyers can charge, and authorization for defendants to introduce evidence to prevent double recoveries. The HEALTH Act also includes provisions creating a fair share rule by which damages are allocated fairly in direct proportion to fault, reasonable guidelines on the award of punitive damages, and a safe
harbor for punitive damages for products that meet applicable FDA safety requirements.
It is important to note that nothing in the HEALTH Act limits in any way the award of economic damages from anyone responsible for harm. Economic damages include anything to which a value can be attached, including lost wages, lost services provided, medical costs, the cost of pain-reducing drugs, and lifetime rehabilitation care, and anything else to which a receipt can be attached. Because of this, the reforms in the HEALTH Act still allow for very large, multi-million dollar awards to deserving victims, including homemakers and children, as the experience in California has shown.
Still, the California reforms have been successful. Information provided by the National Association of Insurance Commissioners shows that since 1975, premiums paid in California increased by 167 percent while premiums paid in the rest of the country increased by 505 percent. As Cruz Reynoso, the Democratic Vice Chairman of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission wrote recently in the Los Angeles Times, ``What is obvious about MICRA is that it works and it works well. Our California doctors and hospitals pay significantly less for liability protection today than their counterparts in States without MICRA-type reforms.''
The Congressional Budget Office has concluded that ``under the HEALTH Act, premiums for medical malpractice insurance ultimately would be an average of 25 percent to 30 percent below what they would be under current law.'' If California's legal reforms were implemented nationwide, we could spend billions of dollars more annually on patient care. Reform at the Federal level is necessary because the current crisis is national in scope.
According to a report by the Department of Health and Human Services, ``The cost of these awards for noneconomic damages is paid by all other Americans through higher health care costs, higher health insurance premiums, higher taxes, reduced access to quality care, and threats to quality of care. The system permits a few plaintiffs and their lawyers to impose what is in effect a tax on the rest of the country to reward a very small number of patients.'' Congress must act to let doctors treat patients wherever they are and to reduce health care costs for all Americans.
H.R. 5 will also save the Federal taxpayers billions of dollars. Former Democratic Senator George McGovern has written in the Wall Street Journal, ``Legal fear drives doctors to prescribe medicines and order tests, even invasive procedures, that they feel are unnecessary. Reputable studies estimate that this `defensive medicine' squanders $50 billion a year, enough to provide medical care to millions of uninsured Americans.''
According to the Department of Health and Human Services, ``If reasonable limits were placed on noneconomic damages to reduce defensive medicine, it would reduce the amount of taxpayers' money the Federal Government spends by $25.3-44.3 billion per year.''
Furthermore, despite accusations from the other side of the aisle, this is not a crisis caused by insurance companies. The President of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners wrote last month that ``To date, insurance regulators have not seen evidence that suggests medical malpractice insurers have engaged or are engaging in price fixing, bid rigging, or market allocation. The preliminary evidence points to rising loss costs and defense costs associated with litigation as the principal drivers of medical malpractice prices.''
We all recognize that injured victims should be adequately compensated for their injuries, but too often in this debate we lose sight of the larger health care picture. This country is blessed with the finest health care technology in the world. We are blessed with the finest doctors in the world. People are smuggled into this country for a chance at life and healing, the best chance they have in the world.
The Department of Health and Human Services issued a report recently that included the following amazing statistics. During the last half century, death rates of children and adults up to age 24 were cut in half and infant mortality rates have plummeted 75 percent.
Mortality among adults between the ages of 25 and 64 fell nearly as much and dropped among those 65 years and older by a third. In 2000, Americans enjoyed the longest life expectancy in American history, almost 77 years.
These amazing statistics just did not happen. They happened because America produces the best health care technology and the best doctors to use it. But now there are fewer and fewer doctors to use that miraculous technology or to use that technology where their patients are. We have the best brain-scanning and brain-operation devices in history and fewer and fewer neurosurgeons to use them. Unlimited lawsuits are driving doctors out of the healing profession. They are reversing the clock; and they are making us all less safe, all in the name of unlimited lawsuits and personal injury lawyers' lust for their cut of unlimited awards for unquantifiable damages. But when someone gets sick or is bringing a child into the world and we cannot call a doctor, who will we call, a lawyer?
As a Nation today, we have to choose. Do we want the abstract ability to sue a doctor for unlimited, unquantifiable damages when doing so means that there will be no doctors to treat ourselves and our loved ones in the first place? On behalf of all 287 million Americans, all of us who are patients, let us say yes to reasonable health care litigation management and pass the HEALTH Act.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Smith).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Pennsylvania (Ms. Hart).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\2/3\ minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Forbes).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Chocola).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. Blackburn).
(Mrs. BLACKBURN asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Gerlach).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Burgess).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Kirk).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
Mr. Speaker, the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee) displayed a chart that indicated that 61 percent of the malpractice cases were either settled or dropped, and she insinuated that that was for free. It is not for free. It costs money to defend those suits, to go to court, to file answers, to do whatever discovery is necessary in order to convince the plaintiff that they do not have a case, and those costs get folded into the liability premiums that the physicians have to pay.
Who gets off free? It is the plaintiff that gets off free because the plaintiff is on a contingency fee and if there is no recovery then the plaintiff does not have any lawyer fees at all.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
We have heard an awful lot about the impact on insurance premiums, and I just want to read from the CBO estimate, the cost of this bill. The CBO estimates that under this bill premiums for medical malpractice insurance ultimately would be an average of 25 to 30 percent lower than what they would be under the current law. However, other factors noted above may affect future premiums, possibly obscuring the anticipated effect of the legislation.
The effect of H.R. 5 would vary substantially across States, depending upon the extent to which a State already limits malpractice litigation. There would be almost no effect in malpractice premiums at about one-fifth of the States, while reductions in premiums would be substantially larger than the overall average at about one-third of the States.
What this means is that the reduction in premiums will be much greater in the States where there is a crisis, and what this bill does is that it provides access to medical care in States where high risk specialists are closing their practices because they cannot make enough money to support themselves and to pay their liability insurance premiums.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Stenholm).
(Mr. STENHOLM asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Scott).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Pence).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 1 minute.
Mr. Speaker, I think there is a little bit of confusion around about the noneconomic damage limit. There is a specific provision in H.R. 5 that says no provision of this act shall be construed to preempt any State law whether effective before, on, or after the date of enactment of this act that specifies a particular amount of compensatory or punitive damages or the total amount of damages in a health care lawsuit, regardless of whether or not such monetary amount is greater or lesser than that that is provided under this act.
Now, every one of the 50 States is free to adjust the $250,000 limit on noneconomic damages upwards or downwards by enactment of the State legislature. My State limits it at $350,000. This is not touched by the HEALTH Act whatsoever. So if anybody thinks that this act is a straitjacket, the legislature is free to change it.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Connecticut (Mrs. Johnson).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I have been listening intently to this debate. Many of my friends on the other side of the aisle apparently have not been listening at all to the debate, and I just want to rebut a couple of their points.
First, they say this will not reduce insurance premiums. They were right in that it will not reduce insurance premiums by law, but the CBO says that overall insurance premiums will be reduced by 25 to 30 percent and more in States where there is a greater problem. That is the market working. That is the economics working on it. But those premiums are not going to be reduced if the current law stays where it is.
Then we have heard time and time again about $250,000 in noneconomic damages. This bill gives each State the right to adjust that amount to a greater or a lesser amount. So the State legislatures can make a determination on whether $250,000 is proper or not. If they fail to do so, then the $250,000 in the HEALTH Act is the law for that State.
Finally, we have heard ``Physician, heal thyself,'' and that a small number of physicians are responsible for the vast majority of malpractice claims. Let me say that the current tort liability system provides a huge disincentive for doctors to talk about problems
amongst themselves and to get the collective benefit of a number of doctors' opinions on how to treat a patient.
There has been a study that asked, ``Generally speaking, how much do you think the fear of liability discourages medical professionals from openly discussing and thinking about ways to reduce medical errors?'' Mr. Speaker, 59 percent of the physicians replied, ``A lot.''
If we pass this law, we will be seeing more collectively doctors' brains put together to deal with difficult cases, to talk about mistakes and make sure they do not happen again. This bill should be passed. I urge an aye vote on the bill.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. HASTINGS of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. Speaker, let me say to the gentleman from New…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. HASTINGS of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, let me say to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Reynolds) that the gentleman and I handled this measure last fall when this bill was brought to the floor. It was a bad bill then, and it is a bad bill now. I also want to clear up something about so-called unnecessary lawsuits. There are penalties for lawyers who bring frivolous claims into any courtroom; thus, I theorize that the majority evidently does not understand that particular distinction.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to this closed rule for H.R. 5. This legislation requires a full and open debate. The closed rule is abhorrent and cowardly. It denies the opportunity for free and fruitful discussion that would uncover all this legislation's deficiencies.
The current Committee on Rules chairman, the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), said in 1994 when a Member of the minority, and referring to the Democratic members of the Committee on Rules, ``But we should have a structure which allows Members to participate more than they do now, and that it is again underscoring Lord Acton's very famous line that power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. The arrogance of power with which they prevent Members, rank-and-file Democrats and Republicans, from being able to offer amendments, that is what really creates the outrage here.''
That was the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), and outrage continues in the minority today. If the majority alleges that Democrats were wrong in utilizing the closed rule when we were in the majority, why not be the bigger party and end the practice? Why the political games, or is it simply more fun to be principled when it is convenient?
There is no question that medical liability insurance rates are out of control. Consequently, fine doctors, as well as other health care providers, often do not properly attend to patients. However, the underlying bill will not relieve doctors of high malpractice insurance premiums. I am focused on giving Americans quality health care, as all of my colleagues are, not increasing profits for the health insurance industry; and there are good proposals to correct the situation. H.R. 5 is not one of them.
Instead of protecting patients, H.R. 5 protects HMOs and big insurance companies. The so-called HEALTH Act of 2003 addresses the health of the health care industry and not that of physicians and patients. H.R. 5 is bad legislation; but like perennial flowers, its contents sprout every Congress, replenishing the coffers of its supporters. HMOs and big health insurers should not receive special treatment. They are not above the law. Nor should they be exempt from new legislation simply because they contributed millions of dollars in the last two election cycles.
H.R. 5 applies to medical malpractice, medical products, nursing homes, and health insurance claims because its supporters' true concern is not the suffering of patients or victims. Instead, H.R. 5 advocates want immunization from the consequences of irresponsible civil behavior.
The top priority in reforming America's health care system should be reducing the shameful number of preventable medical errors that kill nearly 100,000 hospital patients a year.
Wrong-doers must remain accountable. When a stay-at-home mom dies or a child dies or a senior citizen suffers irreparable harm, there is no economic loss because it is impossible to prove damages from loss of income. H.R. 5 takes away compensation for parents who lose children, husbands who lose wives, children who lose parents, and patients who lose limbs, eyesight and other very real losses that are not easily measured in terms of money.
Despite a wide consensus, skyrocketing premiums are not due to bad politics. The malpractice insurance market is having a predicament because of the insurance industry. The other side of the aisle claims that the lure of big wins prompts many to file frivolous lawsuits. But, in fact, victims are already at a disadvantage. Two-thirds of patients who file a claim do not get a dime. About 61 percent of cases are dismissed or dropped, and 32 percent are settled; and too many of them are on the courthouse steps when they could have been settled earlier. Only 7 percent of all cases go to trial.
Patients prevail in only one in five of the cases that are tried. These are pretty staggering odds against the victims.
The American people would know these truths if their Representatives could expose the selective use of data and statistics that the majority uses in supporting H.R. 5. One classic example would be the notion that in California, after 1975, premiums went down. Well, they did not go down until California reformed the insurance laws. It did not go down. It went up progressively for 12 years.
But under today's closed rule, the majority is committing the greatest form of political malpractice. When the majority has finished bullying its members into voting the party line today, the American people will not only be barred from seeking compensation when a doctor transplants an incorrect organ but they will realize that with closed rules as the order of business, they cannot even seek compensation in the People's House.
For example, if this bill were current law, no experienced trial lawyer would take the case of the young Mexican girl who lost her life at Duke University. The case would be complex, obviously, and expensive to put on, there would be no economic damages, and the maximum noneconomic award would be $250,000. H.R. 5 treats the health care insurance businesses as the victims, and that is unacceptable.
The consequences of an injury are highly subjective and affect different people in vastly different ways. Put another way, how much is my arm worth? How much is your leg worth? This one-size-fits-all solution contradicts the
promise of individualized justice and objectifies victims and the uniqueness of their suffering. Different States have different experiences with medical malpractice insurance and insurance remains a largely State-regulated industry. The $250,000 cap that must have been taken out of somebody's cap as a reason for going forward takes away juries' abilities in our States to determine the appropriate level of compensation for people who suffer grievous injuries at the hands of their health care providers. The majority does not trust the people to defend its political contributors.
Al Hunt of the Wall Street Journal quoted a Republican lawyer from Houston as asking, ``Why are juries okay to take a man's life on the criminal side but are not competent to put a dollar value on an innocent victim's life on the civil side?'' That is shameful. H.R. 5 is a health care immunity act that does not benefit physicians and victimizes patients.
When Democrats were in the majority, Republicans complained time after time that closed rules were unfair. On all of the radio infrastructure, we heard closed rules were unfair, unpatriotic and contrary to the goals of the framers. However, in more than 8 years that Republicans have been in the majority, closed rules are preferred and ruling with an iron fist is the practice. I am in strong opposition to this closed rule and the underlying bill.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds.
In response to my good friend and colleague regarding the fairness and openness and the 1 hour of debate, 31 amendments were offered last night in the Committee on Rules and my good friend the gentleman from New York (Mr. Reynolds) and I were there. Not one, not one, was permitted. What is fair about that?
In response to Dr. Weldon's defensive medicine argument, some people claim that billions of dollars are being wasted on so-called defensive medicine. Our own Congressional Budget Office has concluded that the idea of defensive medicine is uncertain and hypothetical. You can find that on page 74 of House Report 108-32.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost), the distinguished ranking member of the Committee on Rules.
(Mr. FROST asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 10 seconds.
Mr. Speaker, there is a recent study reported in USA Today of medical malpractice insurance that concluded that,
on average, doctors still spend less on malpractice insurance, 3.2 percent of their revenue, than on rent. I offer that for the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Fletcher).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to my good friend, the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Hoyer), the distinguished Democratic whip.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2\1/4\ minutes to my good friend, the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Slaughter), who is an expert in this area, with a Master's of Public Health.
Mr. Speaker, would the Chair announce the remaining time on both sides, please?
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased and privileged to yield 3 minutes to my good friend, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell), the dean of the House, who I think can speak to both substance and process.
(Mr. DINGELL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I would remind the distinguished chairman, my friend, that we did have 31 amendments last night; none of them have been allowed to come to the floor.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott), my very good friend.
(Mr. SCOTT of Virginia asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks and include extraneous material.)
Mr. Speaker, how much time is remaining on both sides?
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to my good friend, the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee).
(Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt), who has studied this problem long-standing as an attorney.
Mr. Speaker, I would say to the gentleman from Nevada (Mr. Porter), the gentlewoman from Nevada (Ms. Berkley), who is married to a physician, does not find that H.R. 5 is going to remedy her husband's problem.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentlewoman from California (Mrs. Capps), who is a registered nurse and has seen what we are talking about.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Nevada (Ms. Berkley), my friend, who is an attorney married to a physician, who has studied this problem actively and carefully over a period of time, coming from a State with dramatic problems.
(Ms. BERKLEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) and then I will be prepared to close.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the remaining time.
Mr. Speaker, if the previous question is defeated, I will offer an amendment to the rule. My amendment will allow the House to consider the Conyers-Dingell substitute to the medical malpractice bill. My amendment will give Members an opportunity to vote on this substitute which, unlike the majority, takes a comprehensive approach to rising medical malpractice insurance premiums. It takes steps to weed out frivolous lawsuits. It requires insurance companies to pass their savings on to health care providers, and it provides targeted assistance to the physicians and communities who need it most.
Let me make it clear that a ``no'' vote on the previous question will not stop consideration of this bill. A ``no'' vote will allow the House to consider and get a vote on the Conyers-Dingell substitute. However, a ``yes'' vote on the previous question will shut out any opportunity for a vote on the substitute. I urge a ``no'' vote on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the amendment and a description be printed in the Record immediately prior to the vote on the previous question, on which I urge a ``no'' vote on the base rule.
Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not present.
Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 139 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 139 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
(Mr. REYNOLDS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 139 is a closed rule providing 2 hours of debate for consideration of H.R. 5, Help Efficient, Accessible, Low-cost, Timely Healthcare Act, more commonly known as the HEALTH Act. The rule waives all points of order against consideration of the bill and provides one motion to recommit with or without instructions.
Mr. Speaker, my home State of New York has been designated by the American Medical Association as one of the 18 crisis States because of the staggering number of physicians that are unable to obtain or afford liability insurance. It is not just physicians that are feeling the crunch; hospitals and other providers have also reached their breaking point.
Take, for example, family-run skilled nursing facilities in my district that have not once had a claim brought against them, yet they have seen their liability insurance rates climb over 200 percent during the past 2 years alone. That is 200 percent in the last 2 years alone.
According to a study conducted by the American Hospital Association and the American Society of Risk Management, one-third of the hospitals experienced an increase of 100 percent or more in liability insurance premiums in 2002. Meanwhile, patients are the ones losing choices, access, and care.
Mr. Speaker, last September I stood on this floor to speak in favor of the HEALTH Act. Since that time, my home community of Erie County, New York, has lost 40 actively practicing physicians. Only 3 months into the current year, they are anticipating a loss of another 20 physicians. If we do not solve the problems facing physicians in this community and so many others across America, who will provide the health care services so vital to all of our constituents?
The fact is that physicians are limiting their patients, moving to States with lower insurance rates, or closing their practices altogether. The fact is that astronomical costs and unpredictability in the legal system are causing this alarming trend.
The effect? Doctors practice defensive medicine to avoid litigation and think twice about openly discussing and reporting possible errors. A study released by the Department of Health and Human Services last week emphasizes that bolstering predictability in the legal system will dramatically reduce the incentives for unnecessary lawsuits. Those who need care will get it faster and more reliably, and those who may need proper redress will get it faster and more reliably.
The HEALTH Act will provide that predictability, while at the same time halting the exodus of providers from the health care industry, stabilizing premiums, limiting astonishing attorney fees, and above all, improving patient care.
Just as important is what HEALTH Act will not do. It will not preempt any existing State laws that limit damages at a specific amount, and it will not establish any new causes of action.
Also, it will not prevent juries from awarding unlimited economic damages. This means that quantifiable lost wages, medical costs, pain- reducing medications, therapy and lifetime rehabilitation can all be recuperated as tangible economic damages. Patients that have been wrongly injured will not be denied access to substantial amounts in economic damages.
The HEALTH Act is modeled after legislation adopted by a Democratic legislature and a Democratic Governor in the State of California nearly 30 years ago. While insurance premiums increased over 500 percent nationwide, California's have risen only a third of that much, by 167 percent.
California's insurance market has stabilized, increasing patient access to care and saving more than $1 billion per year in liability premiums. Equally important, California doctors are not leaving the State.
By following California's lead to place modest limits on unreasonable economic damage awards, an estimated $60 billion to $108 billion could be saved in health care costs each year. The Congressional Budget Office calculated that medical liability insurance premiums would be lowered an average 25 to 30 percent from what they are now under current law. And CBO also predicts that reducing the occurrence of defensive medicine would save anywhere from $25 billion to $44 billion per year of taxpayers' money.
I want to thank the leadership of the Committee on Energy and Commerce and the Committee on the Judiciary for working so expeditiously to bring this important measure back to the floor and focusing our attention on health care, particularly for coupling the HEALTH Act this week with patient safety legislation. Physicians need an environment where they can both share and learn, while at the same time practicing medicine without the fear of burgeoning liability rates and unnecessary lawsuits.
Mr. Speaker, spiraling medical liability insurance rates have hemorrhaged in recent years. Today we have an opportunity to stop the bleeding and maximize healthy patient outcomes. I urge Congress to support this rule and the underlying legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the debate has begun. We are going to have an hour on this rule. I believe after that we are going to have 2 hours of general debate. It really cuts right down through the center. As I talked about excessive court trial damage driving up the cost of patient health care, I listened to the other side say it is the insurance companies and the doctors that are the cause of so much of this. It will be a good debate. It will be a full hour here on this rule and it will be 2 hours of general debate, and then we are going to have an up or down on the HEALTH Act and we are going to find out whether it is passed and sent to the other body.
But I must say that over 60 percent of the doctors in the United States are insured by insurance companies that are owned and operated by other doctors and which operate primarily for their benefit. The idea that those companies would price-gouge the very physicians who own them, I think, is absurd.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Weldon).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I have only served under the distinguished chairmanship of Chairman Dreier, but I am always pleased that in each rule that we make there is always a recommit. Looking back at history, one of the people that I think was a distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules, Joe Moakley, I am not sure he always had a recommit in the legislation. I am not sure that former Speaker Tip O'Neill when he was a member of the Committee on Rules always voted that there would be a recommit. But I do believe that there has been a recommit in here. More importantly, I think it is important that this legislation was thoroughly vetted in two committees, the Committee on Energy and Commerce and the Committee on the Judiciary, and even passed by voice vote in the Committee on the Judiciary. Just weeks ago these same committees once again took testimony and the bill passed through the Committee on Energy and Commerce by voice vote.
The Committee on Rules last night took testimony for over 2 hours and reasonably provided 2 hours of general debate, in addition to the standard motion to recommit, and I believe we will have a full hour on this rule today.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Fletcher). The gentleman, a doctor, is an expert in this legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, we are going to continue on the debate of the issue of the day, which is medical liability. I must tell you, while I guess it is important to listen to some of the process, and half of this debate by the leadership of our House is on the process, I am hoping that we can continue to hear the debate that was at least opened by myself and my good friend from Florida who has a different view.
I look at it that we need to helm doctors and patients, and to make sure we can control the costs of malpractice insurance. I have listened to some of the debate on the other side that it is the doctors and insurance companies that are at fault.
It is an important debate. This is a debate that was heard 7 months ago in both the Committee on the Judiciary and the Committee on Energy and Commerce. The Committee on the Judiciary voted by voice vote to put the bill out. Only recently we have had those hearings again in the Committee on Energy and Commerce and the Committee on the Judiciary, and, in a bipartisan fashion, it was passed by a voice vote there.
Last night we took 2 hours of testimony. The Committee on Rules responded with a 2-hour debate, plus what will be a full hour of the resolution, now going forward here on the rule itself.
I look forward to the debate, I look forward to hearing it, and then I look forward to voting up or down on whether we are going to help patients or not.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from West Virginia (Mrs. Capito).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Keller).
(Mr. KELLER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks, and include extraneous material.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), the chairman of the Committee on Rules.
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Pryce), a member of the Committee on Rules and Chair of the Republican Conference.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Linder), a distinguished member of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 45 seconds to the gentleman from Nevada (Mr. Porter).
(Mr. PORTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Greenwood), who is an expert on the Committee on Energy and Commerce on this issue.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from California (Mr. Cox).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the remaining time.
I hope my colleagues have had the opportunity to read the heart- wrenching testimony presented by Leanne
Dyess earlier this month before the Committee on the Judiciary. I hope their compassion will allow them to consider how it would feel if a similar tragedy befell someone they love simply because doctors had been pushed out of the area; and I hope they can recognize that, today, we have the opportunity to prevent such tragedies from happening to others.
The HEALTH Act is about patients getting the best possible care they can when and where they need it. Dollar signs do not cure people; doctors do. Let us make sure doctors and other providers all across the country remain open for business.
I urge a ``yes'' vote on the rule and the underlying legislation. A ``yes'' vote is a vote for patients.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
Mr. Speaker, there is one word that best describes this closed rule: cowardly. This is a Republican leadership that fears a real debate on this cold hearted proposal that would rob victims of medical…
Mr. Speaker, there is one word that best describes this closed rule: cowardly. This is a Republican leadership that fears a real debate on this cold hearted proposal that would rob victims of medical malpractice. They fear that too many of their own Members would vote for a democratic bill because it makes sense and would address the problem.
They have decided to dodge a clean vote on a real bill and bury real debate in procedural doubletalk. They have decided to let their Members hide behind parliamentary tricks.
The Republican leadership has shredded any semblance of fairness or open debate. Just last year, for the first time since 1910, this Republican leadership denied the Minority party a motion to recommit. Today, the two most senior members of the House of Representatives, who are also the two Ranking Democrats on the Committees of jurisdiction, are being denied the opportunity to offer the amendment of their choosing.
The Republican leadership's bill doesn't solve the problem of medical malpractice insurance rates skyrocketing. It has no insurance reform at all. Doctors who are being price gouged by insurance companies will not see one cent of savings from this bill.
The simple fact is that draconian caps on damages do not reduce insurance premiums. In a comparison of states that enacted severe tort restrictions in the mid-1980s and those that resisted enacting any tort reform, no correlation was found between tort reform and insurance rates.
Our bill takes away the antitrust exemption for medical malpractice insurance providers that has allowed those providers to collude to jack up rates for doctors.
The Republican leadership's bill does nothing about the deadly problem of medical malpractice that costs victims literally their life and limb. Between 44,000 and 98,000 people die each year because of medical negligence in hospitals and the Republican answer is to take away the rights of surviving family members and accountability for bad apple health care providers.
H.R. 5 does nothing about the fact that 5% of all doctors are responsible for 54% of malpractice claims paid. H.R. 5 does nothing to solve the problem that medical malpractice is the fifth leading cause of death in the country.
Our bill preserves accountability in the health care system.
The Republican leadership's bill does nothing about frivolous lawsuits, only hurts victims. All this bill does is take away compensation from the most seriously injured plaintiffs. These are the victims who have a case that has so much merit that a jury of their peers decides they deserve more than $250,000 in non-economic damages.
Our bill requires an attorney to file a certificate of merit that an action is not frivolous and, if that certificate is false, that attorney can be disbarred.
The Republican bill takes a chain saw to the health care system instead of a scalpel. It is no wonder they fear a fair and honest debate and a clean vote.
I urge Members to:
(1) Vote ``no'' on the Previous Question so that we can make in order a vote on Conyers-Dingell and other worthy Democratic amendments.
(2) If we are not successful in defeating the previous question, vote ``no'' on this one sided, anti-democratic rule.
The material previously referred to by Mr. Hastings of Florida is as follows:
Previous Question for H. Res. 139--Medical Malpractice: H.R. 5--Help Efficient Accessible, Low-Cost, Timely Healthcare (HEALTH) Act of 2003
In the resolution strike ``and (2)'' and insert the
following:
``(2) an amendment in the nature of a substitute consisting
of the text of H.R. 1219 if offered by Representative Conyers
or a designee, which shall be in order without intervention
of any point of order, shall be considered as read, and shall
be separately debatable for 60 minutes equally divided and
controlled by the proponent and an opponent; and (3)''
Conyers/Dingell Democratic Substitute--H.R. 1219, ``The Medical
Malpractice and Insurance Reform Act of 2003''
section-by-section analysis
Scope. The legislation narrowly defines ``medical
malpractice action'' to cover ``licensed physicians and
health professionals'' for only cases involving medical
malpractice. These definitions are intended to include
doctors, hospitals, nurses, and other health professionals
who pay medical malpractice insurance premiums. See, sec.
107(8).
Title I--Reducing frivolous lawsuits
Sec. 101.--Statute of Limitations. This section limits the
amount of time during which a patient can file a medical
malpractice action to the later of three years from the date
of injury or three years from the date the patient discovers
(or through the use of reasonable diligence should have
discovered) the injury. Children under the age of 18 have the
later of three years from their eighteenth birthday or three
years from the date the patient discovers (or through the use
of reasonable diligence should have discovered) the injury.
Sec. 102.--Health Care Specialist Affidavit. This section
requires an affidavit by a qualified specialist before any
medical malpractice action may be filed. A ``Qualified
Specialist'' is a health care professional with knowledge of
the relevant facts of the case, expertise in the specific
area of practice, and board certification in a specialty
relating to the area of practice.
Sec. 103.--Mandatory Sanctions for Frivolous Actions and
Pleadings. This section requires all plaintiff attorneys who
file a medical malpractice action to certify that the case is
meritorious. Attorneys who erroneously file such a
certificate are subject to strict civil penalties. For first
time violators, the court shall require the attorney to pay
costs and attorneys fees or administer other appropriate
sanctions. For second time violators, the court shall also
require the attorney to pay a monetary fine. For third time
violators, the court shall also refer the attorney to the
appropriate State bar association for disciplinary
proceedings.
Sec. 104.--Mandatory Mediation. This section establishes an
alternative dispute resolution (ADR) system for medical
malpractice cases. Participation in mediation shall be in
lieu of any other ADR method required by law or by
contractual arrangements by the parties. A similar approach
is recommended by the Committee for Economic Development
(CED), which suggests that defendants make and victims accept
``early offers.'' The effect of the ``early offer'' program,
according to the CED, is that defendants will reduce the
likelihood of incurring litigation costs, and victims would
obtain fair compensation without the delay, expense or trauma
of litigation.
Sec. 105.--Punitive Damages. This section limits the
circumstances under which a claimant can seek punitive
damages in a medical malpractice action. It also allocates 50
percent of any punitive damages that are awarded to a Patient
Safety Fund managed by HHS. HHS will administer the
Patient Safety Fund through the Agency for Healthcare
Research and Quality. The Secretary will promulgate
regulations that will establish programs and procedures to
carry out this objective. See also, Sec. 221-223.
Sec. 106.--Reduction in Premiums. This section requires
medical malpractice insurance companies to annually project
the savings that will result from Title II of the bill.
Insurance companies must then develop and implement a plan to
annually dedicate at least 50 percent of those savings to
reduce the insurance premiums that medical professionals pay.
Insurance companies must report these activities to HHS
annually. The section provides for civil penalties for the
non-compliance of insurance companies.
Title II--Medical malpractice insurance reform
Sec. 201.--Prohibition on Anti-competitive Activities by
Medical Malpractice Insurers. This section would repeal
McCarran-Ferguson Act to ensure that insurers do not engage
in price fixing. The Act, enacted in 1945, exempts all anti-
competitive insurance industry practices, except boycotts,
from the Federal antitrust laws. Over the years, uneven
oversight of the insurance industry by the States, coupled
with no possibility of Federal antitrust enforcement, have
created an environment that fosters a wide range of anti-
competitive practices.
Sec. 202.--Medical Malpractice Insurance Price Comparison.
This section creates an internet site at which health care
providers could obtain the price charged for the type of
coverage the provider seeks from any malpractice insurer
licensed in the doctor's state. This section specifies the
availability of online forms and that all information will
remain confidential.
Title III--Enhancing patient access to care through direct
assistance
Sec. 301.--Grants and Contracts Regarding Health Provider
Shortages. This section authorizes the Secretary of Health
and Human Services (HHS) to award grants or contracts through
the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA) to
geographic areas that have a shortage of one or more types of
health care providers as a result of dramatic increases in
malpractice insurance premiums.
Sec. 302.--Health Professional Assignments to Trauma
Centers. This section amends the Public Health Service Act to
authorize the Secretary to send physicians from the National
Health Service Corps to trauma centers that are in danger of
closing (or losing
their trauma center status) due to dramatic increases in
malpractice premiums.
Title IV--Independent advisory commission on medical
malpractice insurance
Sec. 401-402.--Independent Advisory Commission on Medical
Malpractice Insurance. This section establishes the national
Independent Advisory Commission on Medical Malpractice
Insurance. The Commission must evaluate the causes and scope
of the recent and dramatic increases in medical malpractice
insurance premiums, formulate additional proposals to reduce
those premiums, and make recommendations to avoid any such
increases in the future. In formulating its proposals, the
Commission must, at a minimum, consider a variety of
enumerated factors.
Sec. 403.--Report. This section requires the Commission to
file an initial report with Congress within 180 days of
enactment and to file annual reports until the Commission
terminates.
Sec. 404.--Membership. This section specifically
establishes the number and type of commissioners that the
Comptroller General of the United States must appoint to the
Commission. Generally, the membership of the Commission will
include individuals with national recognition for their
expertise in health finance and economics, actuarial science,
medical malpractice insurance, insurance regulation, health
care law, health care policy, health care access, allopathic
and osteopathic physicians, other providers of health care
services, patient advocacy, and other related fields, who
provide a mix of different professionals, broad geographic
representations, and a balance between urban and rural
representatives.
Sec. 407.--Authorization of Appropriations. This section
authorizes that such sums be appropriated to the Commission
for five fiscal years.
(Prepared by the Democratic staffs of the Committee on the
Judiciary and the Committee on Energy and Commerce.)
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to control the time of the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers). Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentlewoman from…
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to control the time of the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers).
Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentlewoman from California (Ms. Waters), a member of the Committee on the Judiciary and a ranking member on the Committee on Financial Services.
Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentlewoman from California (Ms. Lofgren), a senior member of the House Committee on the Judiciary and Committee on Science.
Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentlewoman from the Virgin Islands (Mrs. Christensen), a physician and an advocate for good health care for all Americans. We thank her very much for her leadership.
(Mrs. CHRISTENSEN asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 25 seconds.
I beg to differ with the gentlewoman from Tennessee. I wish her remarks were accurate, in noting from the American Insurance Association a comment that says, ``Insurers never promised that tort reform,'' which is what medical malpractice, what H.R. 5 is, ``would achieve specific premium savings.'' So in fact, the doctors will not be helped from this legislation, H.R. 5. The only persons that will be helped will be the insurance companies.
Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure to yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Clay), a fighter for the rights of many and an advocate for good health care for all Americans.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds.
The playbook is being said over and over again. Victor Schwartz on tort reform says that many tort reform advocates do not contend that restricting litigation will lower insurance rates, and I have never said that in 30 years.
Mr. Speaker, I will not vote for H.R. 5, because as it is, it does nothing to decrease the premiums our Nation's physicians are burdened with. It does nothing to decrease the number of frivolous lawsuits. It does nothing to decrease the amount of malpractice being inflicted upon the American people, by bad doctors who are jeopardizing the lives of their patients, and driving up the insurance costs of their colleagues. And it does nothing to protect the rights of those suffering in the wake of an act of medical negligence.
I have doctors in my district, who are struggling with high malpractice insurance premiums. In some regions, for some specialties, those premiums can be outrageous. If this bill becomes law, the caps on claims from injured patients will put a lot of money into the coffers of insurance companies. I offered an amendment yesterday in the Rules Committee that would have forced insurance companies to pass at least half of that money down to physicians in the form of reduced premiums. That just makes sense, if this bill is really intended to decrease premiums. But that amendment will not receive a vote today. That fact lays bare the claim that this bill is anything more than a gift to the insurance industry.
This bill has many troubling aspects and omissions. For example, noneconomic and punitive damages are capped at $250,000 and there is no provision to have this arbitrary number rise over time with inflation. So, we know that the value of the dollar will go down over time. Do we also feel the value of a human life, or of a child's pain and suffering will also go down over time? I surely do not. This could have easily been changed, but it was not.
Another aspect of this bill that I feel is morally repugnant, is in its valuing of rich people's lives more than poor people's, or children's, or stay-at-home mothers'. In the case of truly heinous acts of negligence, a judge and jury can award a damaged person with punitive damages. Punitive damages, as the name implies, are meant to punish egregious wrong-doers. This bill caps punitive damages at $250,000 or twice the economic damages, whichever is higher. So if a CEO with a high salary is injured and can't go back to work, his economic damages could be in the millions, and therefore through punitive damages--the perpetrator would be punished severely. On the other hand, if the injured is a child or a stay-at-home mother, the economic damages would be low, and the punitive damages would be capped at $250,000. Why would the U.S. Government, dedicated to the idea that every person should be treated as equal, say that doctors who hurt rich people should be punished more than those who hurt poor people--that the value of a poor person's life is less--that it is OK to take bigger risks in treating poor people? This is absolutely morally bankrupt.
And the bill does nothing to stem the tide of frivolous lawsuits. This bill, by definition, cuts awards to those people who a jury decided were not frivolous. This is short-circuiting our judicial process.
What in the name of God and country are we doing giving a gift to insurance companies, while people are suffering and access to medical care is threatened? I will vote against H.R. 5 and urge my colleagues to do the same.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Berman), a distinguished senior member of the Committee on the Judiciary who knows about California medical malpractice law firsthand.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell), one who has been a fighter for physicians and first responders.
Mr. Speaker, I yield the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pascrell) 10 seconds to respond.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to myself.
(Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I want to answer and I thank the distinguished speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I am going to ask the young lady just to come closer. We have the personal touch here this afternoon.
I want to answer the question that has been raised. This is over and over again about whose problems we are solving. Can I give my friends the real facts?
Sixty-one percent of the cases are dropped. That means as you go into the courthouse, and those of you who have been injured, you have your cases dismissed 61 percent. Plaintiffs only get 1 percent of the verdicts across the Nation. Defense verdicts. That means they rule on behalf of the HMOs, the doctors, the hospitals, 6 percent, and settlements are 32 percent.
H.R. 5 is a bill that does not harm the doctors and the physicians, which we do not want to harm, but it literally destroys the victims. What it does is when the verdicts come it injures the victims because you tell them that they cannot get a recovery.
There is no crisis in medical malpractice insurance. What the crisis is is the insurance companies who refuse to reduce the payments.
So let me show you who will be hurt by H.R. 5. Nathaniel will be hurt by H.R. 5. This is the face of H.R. 5. Why? Because Nathaniel was 6 weeks old when Nathaniel became brain damaged because he was not diagnosed with jaundice. In the Democratic substitute we eliminate cutting off Nathaniel's damages. We take the caps off the noneconomic damages. Is it not interesting that physicians who want to have their rates reduced do not get any relief directly from the insurance payoff because this is not access to medical care. This is insurance payoff day.
What we do for Nathaniel in the Democratic substitute is we say to the doctors, if you are good doctors, we want the savings that have been given to those to be reduced. I had an amendment that said reduce it by 50 percent. Put 50 percent of the savings and reduce the premiums of the doctors. This is real medical malpractice response. This puts the doctors in the rural communities in New Jersey, in Mississippi, in Texas and New York in the innercity. This helps the babies like Nathaniel.
And then to my dear friends, what about the States rights? What about the States that want to make their own determinations to protect their own citizens, to ensure that Nathaniel does not lay languishing with brain damage, and because he was only 6 weeks old, the noneconomic damages that would provide for him for the rest of his life were cut off, the pain and suffering damages were cut off at $250,000 in today's time? So besides cutting us off from having amendments, besides denying us a substitute--a legitimate way to discuss a reasonable response-- this is what we have today: A false bill that addresses a false issue and Nathaniel languishing in brain damage. Our bill would have provided Nathaniel for getting his day in court, providing for his mother and father the pain and suffering they are experiencing while he languishes without hope.
Payoff day for insurance companies. I stand against it. Vote against
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 25 seconds to respond.
The Republicans have represented that H.R. 5 is to reduce the premiums of physicians. Let it be perfectly clear, and I stand by my document, 61 percent are dismissed, but let it be perfectly clear that nowhere will the physicians have premiums reduced and more doctors be able to practice because we pass H.R. 5, which is a payout to the insurance companies. I maintain that position and it is accurate.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Hoeffel), who experiences firsthand what happens with a
crisis in his State. He is a leader on these issues.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 10 seconds.
The real point is that the insurance companies have specifically said they will not reduce premiums with the passage of H.R. 5.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Davis), who knows hospitals because they are in his district, an advocate for good health care for all Americans.
(Mr. DAVIS of Illinois asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from Rhode Island (Mr. Langevin), who has faced many issues that deal with the needs of hospitals and his own constituents and good health care, and I thank him for his leadership.
(Mr. LANGEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney), an individual who has stood firm on the rights of patients, the rights of victims.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from Washington (Mr. Inslee), who knows what it is like to have victims denied economic damages under this legislation.
(Mr. INSLEE asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I wish this bill would help cure that problem.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Linda T. Sanchez), one of our newest Members, and a new member on the Committee on the Judiciary, who we are very proud to have because she has been a real fighter for patients' rights.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Delahunt) be allowed to manage the balance of the time on the minority size.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman very much for yielding that time. I am very delighted to stand before a distinguished House of Representatives to make this plea. I support this measure. I come…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman very much for yielding that time.
I am very delighted to stand before a distinguished House of Representatives to make this plea.
I support this measure. I come from Georgia and represent a new Congressional district that represents one of the fastest growing areas in this country. It is the 13th Congressional District. I am here because of that growth, and I am also here to tell my colleagues that there is no greater pressing issue facing my district and the people of Georgia than this health care crisis that we are faced with today in medical liability insurance.
Our doctors are suffering immensely, not only in terms of having to cut back on the quality of services that they have to offer but also in our medical schools, where they are preparing our doctors for the future. Many of the medical schools in my State are saying now that many of the students are having second thoughts about even coming into the medical profession; 17.8 of the 2,800 physicians in Georgia are already reporting that they are contemplating, contemplating cutting back in their critical services for at-risk procedures, and nearly 2 percent have even indicated that if things do not change they are moving out of the State of Georgia.
I think we all know that Georgia is one of 18 States that has the highest, most significant medical malpractice insurance premium costs, and it is costing our State dearly. I am here to speak for those doctors and the dentists and the hospitals in that 11-county area that I represent around the City of Atlanta that is faced with this crisis, and I hope that this Congress will hear us as we cry out in Georgia on behalf of our physicians, our dentists, all of our health care providers, give us some relief.
I know this H.R. 5 before us is not a perfect bill. Nothing is perfect. Who amongst us or what amongst us is perfect? But it is a start. It is a beginning, and it is not incumbent upon us to complete the task, but neither are we free to desist from doing all we possibly can. That is what the American people are expecting of us.
Take this first step. Let us move this process forward. When it gets to the Senate we can work to perfect it even better. I urge my colleagues' vote on this very important matter, and let us bring better health care to our people of Georgia and the Nation.
I am here representing the patients, doctors, hospitals, and health care providers in the 13th Congressional District in Georgia. This is a new district, which encompasses parts of eleven counties due to the tremendous growth in this part of the state. It is also a diverse district, including county, regional, and private hospitals, several health care facilities, and hundreds, if not thousands of physicians and dentists, and other health care professionals. Georgia has been designated as one of 18 states facing a medical liability crisis and since Georgia's health care industry is being threatened by this crisis, I have decided to support the patients . . . and the doctors . . . and the hospitals . . . by supporting H.R. 5.
Earlier this year, the Georgia Board for Physician Workforce, the state agency responsible for advising the Governor and the Georgia General Assembly on physician workforce and medical education policy and issues, released a study showing the effects of the medical liability crisis on access to health care for Georgia's patients. For example, the study shows that 17.8 percent of physicians, more than 2,800 physicians in Georgia, are expected to limit the scope of their practices which is by far the largest effect of the medical liability insurance crisis on access to medical care. These physicians are expected to stop providing high risk procedures in their practices during the next year in order to limit their liability risk. Nearly 1 in 3 obstetrician/gynecologists and 1 in 5 family practitioners reported plans to stop providing high-risk procedures, indicating that access to obstetrical care may be significantly reduce during the next year as a result of the medical liability insurance crisis.
In addition, nearly 11 percent or 1,750 physicians reported that they have stopped or plan to stop providing emergency room services. 630 physicians plan to stop practicing medicine altogether or leave the state because of high medical malpractice insurance rates. About 13 percent of doctors reported that they had difficulty finding malpractice insurance coverage. In fact, at one particular Georgia hospital, the hospital could not give credentials to a surgeon and add that physician to its staff because the surgeon could not afford to buy medical malpractice insurance. In another instance, an obstetrician- gynecologist had to close his Georgia practice and work for a health care agency because he could not afford to buy medical malpractice insurance. What happens to the patients that his hospital could have treated but now it cannot because it does not have the surgeons that it needs? What happens to the mothers who need a doctor to provide pre- and post-natal health care but cannot find one because doctors are leaving the profession due to the high cost of medical malpractice care?
I support H.R. 5 because doctors, hospitals, and the health care industry are caught in the middle between insurance companies and lawyers. Doctors are being squeezed by their medical malpractice insurance premiums and by the high amounts being awarded to injured patients. Doctors need to see results; they need to know that if this bill becomes law that their insurance premiums will go down. The message must reach the insurance companies that premiums have to go down so that the medical profession can survive and access to health care is improved. The health care industry must have relief and this bill, although not the final answer is the first step in addressing the problems that affect doctors and the health care industry.
We have to address the issue of medical malpractice insurance and the extremely high cost of health care. We have to do something. This bill is not the complete answer. It is not the final answer. It is not the best answer but it is a start. We do have to do something and we have to do it now. In 2000, Georgia physicians paid more than $92 million to cover jury awards. That amount was the 11th highest in the nation despite the fact that Georgia ranks 38th in total number of physicians in the United States. Forty percent of the state's hospitals faced premium increases of 50% or more in 2002. St. Paul, the state's second largest insurance carrier, stopped selling medical liability insurance last year. Remaining insurers have reportedly raised rates for some specialties by 70 percent or greater. Some emergency room physicians, OB-GYNs and radiologists have not yet found a new carrier.
In addition, Georgia is heavily dependent on other states to train physicians. Approximately 70% of participating physicians in Georgia completed training in another state. High costs of medical malpractice liability insurance may reduce the attractiveness of Georgia as a location for medical practice. High professional liability insurance costs are a significant financial problem for teaching hospitals, reducing the already limited funding available for faculty, residents, and other medical education costs. The high cost of medical malpractice insurance for doctors and hospitals harms mostly those communities who serve minorities and low income patients. The physicians and hospitals who depend on Medicare reimbursements and who serve the 44 million uninsured Americans everyday cannot afford to pay higher insurance premiums. We need to ensure that these communities have access to quality health care and the best physicians or the health disparity that currently exists will continue to deepen and create a 2 tier health care system. We must do something now. We must support the patients who cannot speak for themselves. We must support our doctors and hospitals and we must pass relief for them today.
It is important for the House to pass a bill that can go to the Senate for consideration. I hope to perfect the bill even more as it moves through the legislative process. It would be a mistaken not to do anything. In fact, I have never seen a problem solved by doing nothing.
We must help doctors, physicians and dentists, hospitals, other health care providers,
and American patients who are suffering in untold ways. Immeasurable damage is occurring in our nation's health care delivery system because of the high cost of medical malpractice insurance. With the passage of this bill, we are sending a clear and salient message to the insurance industry, which sets the premium rates for medical malpractice insurance and that message is: Bring Down the Cost of Medical Malpractice Insurance for Physicians and Hospitals.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 5. I am joined by every major medical association representing the doctors of America…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 5. I am joined by every major medical association representing the doctors of America across this country and across the very specialty organizations that are so deeply affected by the rising cost of medical malpractice insurance that many of them are leaving the practice that they were trained to do.
I thank the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Greenwood) and the gentleman from California (Mr. Cox) for drafting this legislation. I certainly thank the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner) and the staff of the Committee on the Judiciary for working so closely with the staff of the Committee on Energy and Commerce to advance the cause of this very important bill.
We will hear many stories today about the victims and how they are harmed in the health care system. And, of course, we cannot dispute the fact that many doctors make human errors. In fact, yesterday we indicated that the To Err Is Human report encouraged us to pass a medical errors bill, which we passed yesterday on the floor, which is designed to begin sharing information to reduce the number of those errors and to make sure that doctors are not hauled into court every time they help one another when trying to reduce the number of errors in the system.
We know there are victims of medical errors, but we do not often hear about the victims of the medical malpractice system gone awry. They are the victims who get denied access to health care in very critical moments because some doctor could not get his insurance renewed because premiums were too high, some doctor left the practice, some medical clinic, some institute closed down in the community, the stories we heard from victims yesterday here in Washington, D.C.
One wife and children were here talking about how the husband and father was in a horrible automobile accident and went to the hospital, only to find out the neurosurgeon who should have been there to help him had lost coverage 4 days earlier and was no longer at the hospital to service them. That gentleman suffers massive brain disabilities as a result of not having someone there to serve him.
Many pregnant women look forward to a natural childbirth, only to find out that doctors are increasingly recommending C-sections, and doctors who deliver babies are getting out of the business because they cannot afford the skyrocketing liability coverage policies that they need.
60 Minutes did a piece on one of those doctors who gave his whole life, his career to delivering babies. He cannot do it any more. He is doing prenatal work now because he cannot afford the awful cost of liability coverage.
So not only are these doctors harmed because they cannot practice the professions they love and worked so hard to learn, but the patients that come to them are increasingly being harmed. Doctors are moving from one community to another, moving to States that have liability protection because they have learned that they cannot afford the liability coverage in the community they were raised and educated in. They have to move from Mississippi to Louisiana, for example, and Mississippi loses the availability of those good physicians.
Those hidden victims, patients who cannot get care, who suffer from a lack of access to health care, are just as real, just as injured as any victim who has been injured by medical error or malpractice in this country. We have to do something about this. It is a broken system. When the health care system breaks down, it is our responsibility to make sure that we fix it, and we fix it so it does not just work in California or Louisiana, it works across America.
Our families are spread all over. My children are living in all kinds of States. I want them to be able to walk into a hospital and find somebody ready to serve them. I do not want them to walk into a hospital in Mississippi and find out a needed doctor is not there. That is the task we have before us today. As we move this legislation forward, we will complete the task we started yesterday, on the one hand beginning to cure that awful problem of medical errors within the system, errors which produce injury, and recovery is possible under our legal laws; and, secondly, to make sure that the legal liability system is fixed.
What are we doing here? We are recommending to the Congress and to the Nation nothing more, nothing less than the experience of the great State of California, which in 1975 adopted the law upon which H.R. 5 is based, a law which has kept liability premiums in California at one- third the increase level which has been experienced across the country. The other side of the aisle have been debating whether this will reduce insurance premiums. I tell them, go to CBO. CBO has estimated a 25 to 30 percent reduction in insurance costs across America if we pass H.R. 5.
Mr. Speaker, guess what, my State will not get that benefit. We already have the benefit of lower premiums because of reforms like this. Those premium reductions will go to States that do not have the benefit of a State law like California and Louisiana. Therefore, the reductions in premiums are likely to be higher in those States where there are no caps on liabilities.
One final thought. For those Members that are arguing that we are somehow capping the entire liability award, we are doing what California did with a Democratic governor and a Democratic legislature: We are only capping the noneconomic damages. That is the only thing we are capping. We are capping it at $250,000, but we are telling California and Massachusetts and Louisiana, or any other State in the Nation, if they do not like that cap, they can adopt their own cap. They can adopt a higher or lower cap. This legislation preserves for the States the right to adopt the cap that works for them.
But this legislation for the first time will say to everyone in this country, we are all entitled to have a health care professional available to us when we need it who otherwise would not be here because of a liability system that is so broken that it drives decent health care workers out of business and out of their professions at our loss.
Mr. Speaker, this legislation has to get passed and has to get passed soon. I urge Members to adopt this legislation today.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds.
Mr. Speaker, we would not help this debate by arguing that the other side is catering to trial lawyers. That is not going to help this debate. Let us argue on the facts for a change.
The gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Brown) may not agree with what happened in California, but this is what Senator Feinstein said. ``I believe MICRA is the reason rates have gone down.'' That is a California Senator talking about her State.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Blunt).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Stearns), chairman of the Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade and Consumer Protection of the Committee on Energy and Commerce.
Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Bilirakis), chairman of the Subcommittee on
Health of the Committee on Energy and Commerce, who has done such great work on this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I am delighted to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Greenwood), chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations of the Committee on Energy and Commerce and the author of this legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I only want to point out to the House that the substitute offered by the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell) in subcommittee and full committee was defeated on a bipartisan vote in full committee of 30 noes to 20 yeas.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Cox).
Mr. Speaker, I have only one additional speaker to close, so I would urge my friend to use up the balance of his time.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. The majority of our doctors are hardworking and professional and serve their patients with the utmost ability. Only a few doctors are bad…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. The majority of our doctors are hardworking and professional and serve their patients with the utmost ability. Only a few doctors are bad actors who act in negligent or irresponsible ways. But the reality is that this bill will do nothing to help doctors. It does not address the high insurance rates or the plight of doctors. H.R. 5 is totally misguided. It does not address insurance costs for doctors. Instead, it caps meritorious lawsuits where a judge or jury has found for the victim.
H.R. 5 puts a cap of $250,000 on noneconomic damages. Many dismiss noneconomic damages as pain and suffering and imply that they are less important than economic damages. The true definition of noneconomic damages are those damages that are real, permanent harms that cannot easily be quantified or measured in terms of money, such as blindness, physical disfigurement, loss of fertility, loss of a limb, loss of mobility, loss of life, or loss of a child. These are horrific losses; and under this bill, they are capped at $250,000.
I offered an amendment to remove the antitrust exemption for insurance companies. If this bill is truly designed to address the insurance crisis in this country, how is it that it does not contain a single provision about insurance? The insurance industry is the last industry left in the United States that is not subject to antitrust laws. If we really want to bring insurance rates down well, we must make insurance companies subject to government regulation and competition and subject to our antitrust laws.
Everyone in this House of Representatives believes that something needs to be done about the skyrocketing costs of medical malpractice insurance.
The majority of our Nation's doctors are hard working and professional, and serve their patients to the utmost of their ability. Only a few--a small minority--of doctors are bad actors, who act in negligent or irresponsible ways.
But the reality is that this bill will not help our nation's responsible and hard-working doctors. It does not address the high insurance rates or the plight of our doctors. Only the Conyers-Dingell motion to recommit will accomplish these goals. I believe that the Conyers-Dingell bill is a targeted and positive measure to address malpractice insurance in this country.
H.R. 5, on the other hand, is a boon to HMOs, to drug companies, and to medical device manufacturers, who receive the bill's protection from damages without any justification. I cannot understand why a bill that is supposedly designed to help our Nation's doctors would include these other groups--except to provide them with an unjustified windfall.
H.R. 5 is totally misguided--it does not address insurance costs for doctors--instead it caps those meritorious lawsuits where a judge or a jury has found for the victim.
H.R. 5 puts a cap of $250,000 on noneconomic damages. Many dismiss noneconomic damages as being pain and suffering, and imply that these are less important than economic damages.
The true definition of noneconomic damages are those real, permanent harms that cannot be easily quantified or measured in terms of money.
Noneconomic damages include blindness, physical disfigurement, loss of fertility, loss of a limb, loss of mobility and the loss of a child. These are horrific losses--and under this bill they are capped at $250,000.
And not only are they capped at this amount, but because this bill does not even allow an annual adjustment for inflation, each year that $250,000 will lose more and more of its value, and be worth less and less.
I offered an amendment at the Rules Committee to allow an adjustment for the rate of
inflation, but my amendment was not made in order. I cannot believe that even this small and reasonable adjustment to help victims was denied.
I also offered an amendment to remove the antitrust exemption for insurance companies--that too was denied. If this bill is truly designed to address the insurance crisis in this country, how is it that it does not contain one single provision about insurance rates for doctors?
Democrats offered an amendment to require that insurance companies should pass on 50 percent of the amounts that they save as a result of this bill to doctors in the form of lower premiums. This would be a true way to ensure relief to doctors. Of course, this amendment was denied.
Medical insurers are the only industry left in America that is not barred from getting together and setting rates. If we really want to bring insurance rates down, we must make insurance companies subject to government regulation, to competition, and to antitrust law.
This bill will do nothing to help our doctors. Statistics have shown that even where caps exist, premiums are still inflated.
For example, my own state of Michigan has a cap in medical malpractice cases of $280,000 on noneconomic damages, with some limited exceptions.
Neighboring Illinois has no cap on noneconomic damages in these cases. Yet, the average liability premium in internal medicine is \1/3\ higher in Michigan than the premium is in Illinois.
I support our Nation's doctors and I want to help them in the crisis they are facing. But voting for H.R. 5 and its misdirected caps will not provide that help, and I cannot support this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 5, because there is absolutely a medical liability crisis in Florida which will,…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 5, because there is absolutely a medical liability crisis in Florida which will, among other things, result in patients in Orlando with severe head injuries not having access to a doctor. Let me give one example of the crisis.
The Orlando Regional Medical Center is a large hospital located in the heart of my district in Orlando, Florida. It is home to the only level-1 trauma center in the central Florida area. It specializes in treating patients with severe head injuries. The trauma center was praised last month by the State of Florida as delivering patient care that is ``above and beyond'' that of other level-1 trauma centers. I personally toured this trauma center, and I can tell my colleagues it is a source of pride for many central Floridians.
Last week, Orlando Regional Medical Center announced that they were closing in April 2003 because the neurosurgeons in the Orlando area can no longer afford skyrocketing medical liability insurance premiums.
Now, how bad is the situation? Dr. Jonathan Greenberg, the chairman of the Department of Neurosurgery at ORMC, personally told me that the malpractice insurance premiums have risen five-fold over the past 2 years from $55,000 a year to $256,000 a year.
We do not have to guess what the consequences are when this sort of facility is closed down. Just last week, Mrs. Leanne Dyess testified before our Committee on the Judiciary. Her husband suffered one of these severe head injuries in a car accident. There were no longer any neurosurgeons in the area because they could not afford the liability insurance. As a result, it took 6 hours to airlift Mr. Dyess to a different location. It was too late. Mr. Dyess is now permanently brain damaged. He is unable to talk, unable to work, unable to provide for his family.
We must bring common sense back to the health care system so that patients with severe head injuries have access to trauma centers. We should care about each other more and sue each other less.
I ask my colleagues to vote ``yes'' on H.R. 5 and the rule. I will also include in the Record an article dated March 11, 2003 from Dr. Greenberg and published in the Orlando Sentinel.
[From the Orlando Sentinel, Mar. 11, 2003]
Neurosurgeon: Save Trauma Center
(By Jonathan Greenberg, M.D.)
A human tragedy of immense proportions is unfolding in
Central Florida, and my neurosurgical colleagues and I have
been unable to prevent it.
Less than two weeks after a state trauma-site review lauded
Orlando Regional Medical Center's Level I trauma center for
its high level of patient care and dedication ``above and
beyond'' that at other Level I centers, the ORMC
administration was compelled to inform the state that it will
go off-line as an adult Level I trauma center as of April 1
because of the lack of neurosurgical coverage.
Seven neurosurgeons resigned from the ORMC medical staff,
citing the physical stress of on-call requirements, medical
malpractice-insurance premiums, increased liability exposure
in treating trauma patients and the adverse impact that on-
call coverage has had on their private practices.
I cannot fault my neurosurgical colleagues for having taken
this action. They have complained that they were being
charged significantly increased malpractice-insurance
premiums--or were going to be denied malpractice insurance
altogether--for the privilege of getting up in the middle of
the night to take care of critically ill head and spine-
injured patients.
Three neurosurgeons have closed their practices and left
the community. Trying to replace them has been almost
impossible. What sane physician would move to a state known
to be in the throes of a ``medical malpractice-insurance
crisis,'' where insurance is either unobtainable or
exorbitantly priced, and where there is a constant threat of
frivolous but nonetheless disruptive lawsuits?
ORMC has lobbied vigorously for relief; we have
demonstrated to increase public awareness and spoken with
state representatives.
For those who denied that there was a ``physician drain''
or a problem with the tort system, who asserted that this was
only an insurance-industry, stock-market-cyclical financial
problem, who ignored the looming crisis, the end results of
denial, deception, apathy and procrastination are clear.
As of April 1, Central Florida will have lost one of its
most precious assets, the ORMC Level I trauma center. There
will not be enough neurosurgeons left to fully man the on-
call schedule.
We know that in the past many patients survived their
injuries because they were brought to ORMC; they would not
have survived elsewhere. After April 1, similarly injured
patients may not survive. I am profoundly saddened by this
prospect.
It will take more than an act of God to avert this
catastrophe. It will take responsible action by the governor,
the state Legislature, and county and regional leaders. Band-
Aid solutions will not save a health-care system that is
exsanguinating. ORMC has the only Level I trauma center in
the state without sovereign immunity. Relief from predatory
lawsuits and unaffordable insurance premiums and adequate
compensation for extraordinary medical care will be
necessary.
Mr. Speaker, this closed rule does a disservice to the legislative process. Medical malpractice is a very complicated issue, there are many different provisions, and we cannot possibly debate each…
Mr. Speaker, this closed rule does a disservice to the legislative process. Medical malpractice is a very complicated issue, there are many different provisions, and we cannot possibly debate each one with a closed rule. The fact is that one-half of the medical malpractice premiums represent \1/2\ of 1 percent of health care costs, and those costs have been going up at the same rate of health care inflation. California had medical malpractice reform, but the rates did not go down until there was insurance reform.
This bill does nothing to eliminate frivolous lawsuits, but it makes the bona fide lawsuits even more difficult to bring. The elimination of joint and several liability means that you have to chase each and every doctor for each and every portion of their liability. The young Mexican girl with the transplant, one would have to prove a separate case against each and every company, the transplant company, the hospital, and everybody else before she could get anything. She would probably use up the whole $250,000 cap before she could get anything.
The collateral source rule will shift the cost of malpractice onto the employer. If one has a self-insured employer, if one of their employees gets put in a malpractice-induced coma, the employer will have to pay the bill. This bill prohibits subrogation so that the employer cannot get the money back; the malpractice insurance company will not have to pay that hospital bill.
Mr. Speaker, we need to debate that and discuss it; but we cannot, because it is a closed rule.
I hereby attach to my statement, the additional dissenting views I offered to the Judiciary Committee report on H.R. 5.
Additional Dissenting Views
In addition to the dissenting views, I would add the
following:
1. In addition to the comments on the bill's elimination of
joint and several liability, I would add that this new burden
on the plaintiff is administratively unfair to the plaintiff.
The apportionment of malpractice responsibility is routinely
made in the health care field by apportionment of insurance
coverage. Health care providers can and do decide in advance
who will pay for what coverage. The plaintiff, on the other
hand, is not in a position to apportion damages, because the
plaintiff often has no idea what happened, much less who was
responsible. The entire concept of res ipsa loquitur is based
on the fact that some cases are so obviously the result of
malpractice that the general burden of proof is eased for
such victims. With the elimination of joint and several
liability, and without knowing exactly what
happened, the plaintiff will have to make a separate case,
including establishing a standard of care, violation of that
standard and proximate cause for each conceivable participant
in his care and always have the possibility of defendants
pointing to an ``empty chair'' or an insolvent defendant at
the trial. This burden comes with the costs of expert
witnesses for each doctor, nurse and hospital even minimally
involved in the most egregious and obvious cases. As the
dissent mentions, any defendant can always seek contribution
without the elimination of joint and several liability.
2. In addition to the comments in the dissent on the
collateral source rule, I would add that there are three
interested parties: the plaintiff, the health care insurance
company and the defendant. Good arguments can be made for the
plaintiff to benefit from the provisions he has made to pay
his bills. Some may have saved money over the years,
including a medical savings account, and others may have paid
for insurance. Those persons who have invested in insurance
should be able to benefit from their thrift. If one is not
persuaded by that argument, and is offended by the plaintiff
``being paid twice'' for the same bill, then one could
reasonably say that the health insurance carrier should be
able to get its money back through subrogation, and charge a
smaller premium based on the anticipation that some of their
claims will not ultimately have to be paid, because a
tortfeasor will be responsible. The last person of interest
who should benefit from the plaintiff's insurance should be
the tortfeasor. In fact the prohibition against subrogation
in the bill creates the bizarre situation in which a self-
insured small business could have an employee in a
malpractice induced coma, and have to pay all of the hospital
bills, notwithstanding the fact that the negligent doctor is
fully insured.
3. Finally, one of the reasons why the ``average''
malpractice award is increasing is because smaller cases are
not brought. The complexity of the cases makes it impossible
to hire an attorney if the award is too small to generate a
meaningful attorney's fee. This ``average'' will undoubtedly
increase if this bill is enacted because of limitations on
damages, limitations on attorney's fees, elimination of joint
and several liability and elimination of collateral sources.
A better measure of the impact malpractice litigation has on
the health care system is the fact that all malpractice
awards and settlements have been approximately \1/2\ of 1
percent of the national health care costs and have been
recently increasing at the same rate as the health care costs
generally.
Robert C. Scott.
Mr. Speaker, I am here to give a clear example from my home congressional district, a Dr. Joseph Hildner, a board-certified family-practice specialist in Belleview, Florida. He had a patient that was…
Mr. Speaker, I am here to give a clear example from my home congressional district, a Dr. Joseph Hildner, a board-certified family-practice specialist in Belleview, Florida. He had a patient that was overweight and smoked too much. He never followed the doctor's advice, missed many appointments all the time, and failed to take blood pressure prescriptions. Suddenly the patient gets a heart attack, right? Then he sues because he was not cared for. The trial attorney simply identified anything that could have been done, declaring that no standard care was done for this patient by Dr. Hildner.
Obviously, Dr. Hildner tried to settle this thing because the doctor felt that he would go through long litigation. As it turns out, the lawyer was suing well above the amount of money that the insurance company had for his patient. This is just an example. So what happens to Dr. Hildner? His premiums go from $30,000 to $70,000. How does he pay? How do the doctors in this country pay? They start to hustle through more patients and more patients. They practice what is called defensive medicine; they have all these tests, just simply to protect themselves. He admits he is hustling through all these patients like cattle. He cannot give them the attention they need. So now he is giving unnecessary tests.
In the end, we need this bill. That is why I am an original cosponsor of H.R. 5.
I rise as an original cosponsor of, and in support of H.R. 5. This bill would help curb some of explosive noneconomic damage awards in medical liability cases, and resultant soaring malpractice insurance rates that lawsuits have been spurring.
Physicians in my home state of Florida, among other states, are already in a state of crisis, as evidenced by the ``walk-out'' earlier this year.
Dr. W. Herman Sessions of the Family Practice Associates in Orange Park, FL, wrote to me recently that his practice is considering exiting. He wrote,
I am telling my female patients to get their mammograms
this year because I feel that we are not going to be having
mammograms read in the state of Florida next year. A
radiology friend told me that it was at the last minute that
they were able to obtain insurance to read mammograms. He
told me that he is not certain that when their policy expires
in one year that they will be reading mammograms without some
sort of resolution to the liability crisis.
We have had difficulty recruiting physicians to our
hospital because nobody wants to practice in the state of
Florida with our liability problem. These physicians are
surgeons and surgical subspecialists. Our local neurosurgeon
obtained liability insurance on the very last day of the year
and he is able to practice for the calendar year of 2003. I
asked him what his plans are for 2004. He told me that he
will either retire, do strictly office consultation and no
surgery, or move to another state.
And my constituent Johnny Beach from Bell, Florida, a young, married University of Florida senior worries about his wife's access to OB/ GYNs.
Importantly, this legislation rightly does not cap economic damages, so that the tort system can continue to protect patients from malpractice as intended. I am pleased to cosponsor this bill, and urge its passage.
Joseph Hildner, M.D., a board-certified Family Practice specialist in Belleview, FL, writes: ``We had a patient who is an obese smoker. Never followed our advice, missed many appointments, failed to fill blood pressure prescriptions. Patients suffered a heart attack, then sued for failure to arrange a stress test.'' The trial attorney simply identified anything that might have been done, declared that to be the ``standard of care'', threatened to sue for higher than the doctor's coverage limits, then settled for less. Even with a 90 percent chance of winning, a physician can't take the chance of going to trial and losing: the ``excess verdict'' would allow for seizure of his own personal assets. So the doctor settles. Actual negligence need not occur; an attorney only has to do is allege negligence.
But citizens of Belleview lose. Dr. Hildner is known for excellent clinical outcomes at controlled costs. He says,
I've always enjoyed the art of medicine in which I get to
practice clinical judgment. As a primary care physician, I am
a shepherd, getting those who need it expensive high tech
care, and protecting those who don't from unnecessary
interventions. I'm also known for taking time to listen and
explain. I don't have my hand on the doorknob while a patient
is trying to talk.
Last year his insurance premium increased from $30,000 to $70,000. How does he pay? Now has to see more patients, and spend less time. ``I'm now having to talk patients into ``defensive medicine'' tests they don't need, just so I can protect myself. I am beginning to hustle my patients through like cattle, to see enough to pay the bills. So this friendly country doctor known for using clinical judgment, and providing efficient, cost-contained, appropriate care, and known for taking time, is now talking patients into unnecessary tests (which is running up costs), and hustling them through.''
Pass H.R. 5.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 3 minutes. Mr. Speaker, I want Members on both sides of the aisle to be aware of three unanswered questions about H.R. 5. First, if the authors of this bill are sure that…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 3 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, I want Members on both sides of the aisle to be aware of three unanswered questions about H.R. 5. First, if the authors of this bill are sure that it will reduce and stabilize medical malpractice premiums, why are insurers accountable for producing that result?
During the medical malpractice debate in Ohio, insurers said they do not know whether premiums would come down. During a recent hearing in Pennsylvania, the actuary witness said he could not say whether premiums would come down. Even Sherman Joyce, President of the American Tort Reform Association said, ``We cannot tell you or anyone that the reason to pass tort reform would be to reduce insurance rates.''
We are voting on a bill that overrides State law and undercuts compensation for victims of medical malpractice, yet we do not know whether medical malpractice premiums will come down. California passed tort reform in 1975. Medical malpractice premiums continued to go up. Not until California 13
years later demanded a reduction in premiums with insurance reform did the situation improve. Yet insurers have zero, no obligation under this bill.
We are supposed to take it on faith and trust the insurance companies that they will pass along the savings. Apparently we cannot trust patients, cannot trust juries, cannot trust lawyers, but we can trust the insurance industry.
My second question is: Why is there no single insurance reform in this bill? The authors of H.R. 5 refer again and again to MICRA. The gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. Tauzin) did, other Members will. MICRA is the California law that sets a quarter-million-dollar liability cap. Members know it was not MICRA that brought down premiums in California, it was insurance reforms 13 years later. Malpractice insurance premiums rose 450 percent after MICRA went into effect, and only when California established a prereview of rate increases and automatic rollback of excessive premiums did the doctors get any relief, yet this bill has no insurance reforms, no premium rollback. Why? The insurance industry does not like it.
The third question is if H.R. 5 is a response to spiking medical malpractice insurance premiums, something we want to do something about and our substitute bill does, why does this bill shield HMOs, shield drug companies, shield medical device manufacturers, and shield insurance companies from liability? It might have something to do with the fact that those industries have given tens and tens and tens of millions of dollars to Republican candidates. The majority bristles at the notion that the curious omissions from this bill have something to do with helping their friends, the drug companies, the insurance industry, the HMOs and the medical device industry.
Mr. Speaker, if the majority wants Democrats and the American public to stop accusing them of catering to their corporate friends, then maybe the majority should stop catering to their corporate friends. Then we could write a bill that will help doctors, then we could write a bill that will help patients. This bill simply is not it.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Stupak), who cares about patients and physicians.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pallone).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Doyle), who has stood up for patients and doctors alike.
Mr. Speaker, understand that physician-owned companies are still companies that practice business the way other businessmen and women do.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell), the ranking Democrat on the full Committee on Energy and Commerce.
(Mr. DINGELL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume to the gentlewoman from Missouri (Ms. McCarthy), a member of the committee and an advocate for patients.
(Ms. McCARTHY of Missouri asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Maine (Mr. Allen), who has pointed out in USA Today that the malpractice premiums are only 3 percent of revenue, actually less than the rent that physicians pay.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Illinois (Ms. Schakowsky).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Solis).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Houston (Mr. Green).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from California (Mr. Waxman).
(Mr. WAXMAN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman. We have two more speakers.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Engel).
(Mr. ENGEL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I am going to put a longer statement in the Record, but I want to say this, that this bill is a flawed approach. It has a one-size-fits-all approach to every State, and it ought to be up…
Mr. Speaker, I am going to put a longer statement in the Record, but I want to say this, that this bill is a flawed approach. It has a one-size-fits-all approach to every State, and it ought to be up to the States to decide how to deal with these issues.
California has a law that California's legislature adopted. But California and other States have jurisdiction over liability laws and licensure of medical professionals and disciplining those who are conducting malpractice. We ought not to take this whole thing over here in Washington. States ought to be able to adopt their own laws.
Secondly, the tort laws are to serve two purposes. First, to make people whole who are injured. By putting a cap on damages, it denies individuals the ability to be made whole through the court system.
Secondly, the idea of the tort law is to deter future malpractice, and I am afraid we are not going to deter future malpractice by this legislation.
I want to lastly point out, this bill goes beyond California law. It gives special treatment to HMOs, to pharmaceutical manufacturers and medical device manufacturers in a way that is completely inappropriate through an FDA approval process that then insulates them from liability for punitive damages, which I think is way out of line and wrong.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this bill because it is fundamentally flawed and will do far more harm than good. It imposes a one-size fits all solution on every state. It imposes arbitrary caps on liability that defeat the purpose of compensatory and punitive damages. It gives legal protections that go far beyond the legitimate needs of doctors, benefiting profitable pharmaceuticals, HMOs, and insurance companies. And to add insult to injury, all of this comes at the expense of the injured victims of medical malpractice.
States have traditionally handled every aspect of the medical malpractice insurance problem, and are better equipped than the federal government to respond to skyrocketing insurance premiums in some areas of the country. States establish the applicable standards of care for health care professionals and are responsible for their licensure. States are responsible for boards of discipline and criminal laws to deter and punish professional misconduct. States are responsible for the rules governing lawsuits and the functioning of their civil justice system. And states are responsible for the regulation of the insurance industry. Like the State of California, which the supporters of this legislation hold up as a model for the country, other states are perfectly capable of enacting appropriate liability and insurance reform.
This bill, however, establishes a one-size-fits-all solution on the entire country and overrides state laws. For example, if this bill is enacted, states cannot elect to have a longer statute of limitations. States cannot opt out of liability caps. States cannot choose to inform juries of caps on liability or impose the traditional rule of joint and several liability. States cannot allow punitive damages in cases involving drugs and medical devices approved by the FDA.
H.R. 5 also takes the wrong approach to tort damages, which are designed to make victims of medical malpractice whole and punish those who have engaged in egregious misconduct. H.R. 5 allows unlimited recovery for objectively quantifiable damages, such as lost wages or medical bills, but it caps non-economic damages at $250,000. Non- economic damages are difficult to quantify, but they nonetheless compensate victims for real injuries such pain and suffering, the loss of the child, the loss of a limb, or permanent disfigurement. This bill's cap of $250,000 is clearly not enough to make victims whole in every case. H.R. 5 also takes the wrong approach to punitive damages, which are capped at two times the amount of economic damages or $250,000. Many wrongdoers protected by this bill--including HMOs, insurance companies, and pharmaceuticals--could absorb such a penalty with absolutely no impact on their bottom line. This defeats the very purpose of punitive damages in our system of justice, which is to punish wrongdoers and deter future misconduct.
In addition to these problems, this bill is a blatant give-away to special interests. It conspicuously ignores the business practices of insurance companies, which are certainly a cause--if not the primary cause--of the medical malpractice insurance crisis. And the bill gives special liability protection to large, profitable corporations such as MHOs and the manufacturers, suppliers, and distributors of drugs and medical devices. While these corporations have been major contributors to the Republican party, they have done little else to make a case for the protections they've won in H.R. 5.
I urge my colleagues to oppose the bill.
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I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. Mr. Speaker, we all agree that there is a problem in America's medical system, but Republicans are not taking a serious approach to this problem. They…
I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, we all agree that there is a problem in America's medical system, but Republicans are not taking a serious approach to this problem. They are just playing politics and risking the rights of patients in order to carry water for HMOs and insurance companies. We know this, Mr. Speaker, because Republican leaders have brought this bill to the floor under a closed rule.
Now, on this very important subject, let me quote from a statement made 9 years ago by the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules, the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), at a time that he was in the minority. He said, and I quote, ``I oppose closed rules, Mr. Speaker. I believe they are anathema to the concept of deliberative democracy.''
Mr. Speaker, if Republicans wanted to deal with medical malpractice in a serious and substantive way, would they be using a process that is, as the gentleman from California himself said, anathema to the concept of deliberative democracy? I do not think so. And would they be preventing the House from voting on Democrats' comprehensive medical malpractice reform plan? Certainly not. But that is exactly what Republican leaders are doing today. As a result, the only bill made in order by this rule today is the Republican one and it is a shocking attempt to protect insurance companies while attacking the rights of victims.
Make no mistake, Mr. Speaker, the Republican bill will not reduce doctors' premiums, but it will protect HMOs and insurance companies, and it will punish patients who suffer from medical mistakes, patients like 17-year-old Jesica Santillan, who died because of a tragic medical mistake in North Carolina earlier this year. Or patients like the 1- year-old baby who died in Dallas last August after a surgical error.
That is right, Mr. Speaker. Instead of reducing malpractice premiums, Republicans are reducing victims' rights. Instead of protecting patients, they are protecting the profits of HMOs and insurance companies. It is absolutely
outrageous, but that is what you get with this Republican Congress.
It did not have to be that way, Mr. Speaker. Democrats, led by the two most senior Members of the House, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell) and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers), offered a comprehensive plan to bring down doctors' insurance rates and protect patients. The Democratic plan combines tort reform and insurance reform. It cracks down on frivolous lawsuits. And, just as importantly, it forces insurance companies to pass on their savings to doctors. Without this rate rollback provision, Mr. Speaker, insurance companies can just pad their profit margins instead of passing the savings on. That is a lesson we learned in Texas when we passed tort reform. So the Texas legislature and then-Governor Bush agreed on a law that specifically required that insurance companies reduce doctors' premiums, and that is all we are trying to do here. But Republican leaders decided to protect insurance company profits while they were reducing patient protections. So they defeated our amendments in the Committee on Rules last night.
Mr. Speaker, doctors and patients deserve better than this. So I urge my colleagues to defeat the previous question. Then we can amend the rule to bring up the only comprehensive plan to reform medical malpractice, the Democratic substitute. And if Republicans succeed in passing this rule, I urge a ``no'' vote on the underlying bill. Do not let Republicans sacrifice victims' rights in order to protect HMO profits.
I would make one other point. Last night in the Committee on Rules when challenged by the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell), the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), the chairman of the committee, explained why the committee was not going to grant an open rule, why they were going to grant a closed rule. What he said was, ``This is payback. This is payback for what you did when you were in the majority.''
I yield to the gentleman from California.
Mr. Speaker, I was sitting next to the gentleman from California, and I believe that I heard him say that this was payback.
Mr. Chairman, I was sitting right next to you.
All I can say is I was sitting next to the gentleman. I understand and I know what I heard last night.
Mr. Speaker, assuming that the Republicans are pursuing some sort of payback because they do not like what we did when we were in the majority, I would only point out that we rarely granted closed rules, and they normally were bills out of the Committee on Ways and Means. Bills of this nature, of this controversy, when we were in the majority, we permitted the minority to have a substitute on the floor, something which they have denied us today.
Mr. Speaker, Nathaniel is in fact the face of the devastation of H.R. 5. In the name of God and country, this rule says to Nathaniel, 6 days old, he is brain damaged because physicians and nurses…
Mr. Speaker, Nathaniel is in fact the face of the devastation of H.R. 5. In the name of God and country, this rule says to Nathaniel, 6 days old, he is brain damaged because physicians and nurses failed to diagnose jaundice. In this bill he would be denied under the capping of noneconomic damages that are capped. Nathaniel is the face of the horror of what happened in the Committee on Rules last night. There will be no response to our physician friends and doctor friends on the question of reducing premiums because they rejected my amendment that said 50 percent of the savings by insurance companies should be reinvested into physicians to lower their premiums.
They know that California did not have those premiums go down until California enacted insurance reform. This is an insurance giveaway bill. This is not going to bring doctors into rural and urban America.
Mr. Speaker, this rule should be voted down in the name of Nathaniel, now brain damaged. H.R. 5 is a devastation and a disgrace to this baby who lost the ability to live a good quality of life.
Mr. Speaker, I am disgusted by this closed rule and call on my colleagues to defeat the rule and the underlying bill. We have a health care crisis on our hands. We need to work together in a democratic fashion to address it: to improve access to care, to protect patients, to ensure that good physicians can afford to continue treating those patients, and to decrease frivolous lawsuits. The underlying bill does nothing to address any of those issues, and I and many of my colleagues came forth last night to present amendments that would have ensured that it did. Not a single one of those excellent ideas will be even considered today.
What in the name of God and Country is our Democracy coming to when on the Floor of the House of Representatives, there is not a single chance to debate and vote on one of many ideas that could save lives and rescue our floundering health care system?
I hate the idea of putting a price tag on a human life, or a value on pain and suffering. However, we all know that malpractice premiums are outrageously high in some regions, for some specialities of medicine. I understand that some physicians are actually going out of business because the cost of practicing is too high, and that we run the risk of decreasing access to healthcare if we do not find a way to decrease malpractice insurance premiums.
But it would be doubly tragic if we did compromise the ability of patients suffering from medical negligence from seeking recourse in our courts, and did not achieve any meaningful decrease in malpractice premiums. Therefore, I offered an amendment last night that would require that all malpractice insurance companies make a reasonable estimate each year of the amount of money they save each year through the reduction in claims brought about by this Act. Then they would need to ensure that at least 50% of those savings be passed down in the form of decreased premiums for the doctors they serve.
I shared this concept with doctors and medical associations down in Texas, and they were very enthusiastic, because this amendment would ensure that we do what, I am being told, this bill is supposed to do-- lower premiums for doctors.
Without my provision, this bill could easily end up being nothing more than heartbreak for those dealing with loss, and a giant gift to insurance companies. Parents who lose a child due to a tragedy like the one in North Carolina recently where the wrong heart and lung were placed in a young girl--they don't lose any money--they lose a part of their souls. We are going to tell them that their child was only worth $250,000 in non-economic damages for all of their pain and suffering. We are being told that we are going to do this to such devastated families, in order to enable our doctors
to keep treating patients. However, the Rules Committee has decided to prevent us from voting on amendments that would ensure that this bill helps any doctor at all.
Without debate and votes, a Democracy is not a Democracy. I will vote against this Closed Rule, and encourage my colleagues who care about helping patients and good doctors to do the same.
Mr. Speaker, I fear we are doing a terrible disservice to our Nation's physicians and the patients who depend on them. We are deceiving them by passing a bill that does not ensure that doctors will…
Mr. Speaker, I fear we are doing a terrible disservice to our Nation's physicians and the patients who depend on them. We are deceiving them by passing a bill that does not ensure that doctors will actually benefit from these caps.
As a representative of southern Nevada I am all too familiar with the medical liability issue. Nevada has faced a serious medical malpractice crisis for years. Doctors cannot afford insurance premiums and they are threatening to leave the State. Some have and some are refusing to accept new patients.
In August of 2002, Nevada passed a carefully balanced tort reform bill which limited noneconomic damages to $350,000 and allowed for judicial discretion in particularly egregious cases. Nevada passed caps. But the medical insurance companies have refused and have failed to reduce their premiums.
This Congress cannot for a minute pretend that we have addressed the real problem of skyrocketing insurance rates if we limit our prescription to liability caps. We must also provide doctors with insurance reforms as well.
Medical liability reform is worthless if we ignore all of the evidence demonstrating that the current crisis is due more to insurance company miscues than liability claims. We must combine them both and I urge you to reject this rule.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule.
As a Representative of southern Nevada, I am all too familiar with this medical liability issue. Nevada has faced a serious medical malpractice crisis for the last year. Doctors cannot afford insurance premiums and are threatening to leave the State. Some have or are refusing to accept new patients.
I convened discussion groups of doctors and lawyers at my home to try to understand the medical malpractice issue, and it's a regular conversation in my own home as my husband and I, a doctor and lawyer, have searched for effective solutions to this crisis.
Nevada's problem is not one of obscene awards and lawsuits, but of poor calculations and bad decisions on the part of insurers over the past couple of decades.
Nevada's problem is the result of artificially inflated profits, over saturation and price slashing by the insurance company and when Nevada was no longer profitable, St. Paul Insurance Co. withdrew from the market. When that happened, 60% of Nevada's doctors lost their insurance carrier and the remaining medical malpractice insurance companies raised their rates to unconscionable extremes.
In August of 2002, Nevada passed a carefully balanced tort reform bill which limited non-economic damages to $350,000 and allowed for judicial discretion in particularly egregious cases.
Nevada passed caps, but the medical insurance companies have refused and have failed to reduce their premiums.
The evidence demonstrates that judgements are not the full, or even a large measure of the problem. And therefore caps will have a very limited effect on solving this problem.
This Congress cannot--for a minute--pretend that we have addressed the very real problem of skyrocketing insurance rates if we limit our prescription to liability caps. We must also provide doctors with insurance reforms as well.
Medical liability reform is worthless if we ignore all the evidence demonstrating that the current crisis is due more to insurance company miscues than to liability claims.
It is fundamentally unfair and bad public policy to limit jury awards without directly addressing reform of the insurance industry. If this Congress is going to pass tort reform, it should be accompanied by insurance reform so that insurance companies will pass along the savings, and doctors become the direct beneficiaries of cap limitations.
Anything less will fail to solve the malpractice crisis in my State and in this Nation.
I urge my colleagues to vote against this Rule. We are doing a terrible disservice to our Nation's physicians and to the patients that depend on them. We are deceiving them by passing a bill that does not insure that the doctors will actually benefit from caps.
Mr. Speaker I rise in opposition to H.R. 5 and in favor of the motion to recommit. Mr. Speaker, I rise today in opposition to H.R. 5, a measure which restricts the rights of legitimately injured…
Mr. Speaker I rise in opposition to H.R. 5 and in favor of the motion to recommit.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in opposition to H.R. 5, a measure which restricts the rights of legitimately injured patients harmed by medical malpractice, restricts the rights of doctors in favor of insurance companies and does nothing to curtail frivolous law suits nor restrains insurance rates.
In addition to trampling on patient rights, this bill tramples on state's rights. H.R. 5 takes the constitutional concept of federalism to the extreme by severely limiting the traditional rights of plaintiffs seeking damages, a matter that should not be decided by Congress because it proposes tort reforms that are traditionally, and possibly constitutionally, areas to be decided by state legislatures and state courts.
Twenty-five states including Missouri cap non-economic damages to victims. The average Missouri award is $81,000 well below the $250,000 cap presented in H.R. 5, as well as Missouri state law. Twenty states courts have ruled that caps on damages are unconstitutional. H.R. 5 enacts a statute of limitations which 18 state courts have ruled unconstitutional. It is inappropriate for Congress to limit the rights of individuals when state courts have ruled that their rights are protected under state constitutions.
Missourians Jay and Sue Stratman have a son, Daniel Lee Stratman, who is only 11 years old. In July of 1996 Daniel was checked into the hospital for ``minor'' outpatient hernia repair surgery. Daniel was set to be released that same evening. Daniel was not released until November 8 of that year and nothing has been the same for either Daniel or his family.
Daniel is permanently disabled due to severe brain damage, which was a result of multiple repeated anesthetic errors during the supposedly routine surgery for inguinal hernia repair. As a result of the medical errors, Daniel has suffered profound neurological damage including severe cognitive deficits, a decreased level of awareness, diminished bowel and bladder control, and severe gross and fine motor skill injury. He is cortically blind due to the lack of oxygen and perfusion to his brain during surgery. His comprehension level and communication capability have been severely diminished. Daniel requires 24-hour vigilance and this will be true for all of his remaining 70-year life expectancy.
The cap in H.R. 5 unjustly penalizes those individuals without income, like Daniel. Others that fall into that category include: stay- at-home moms and the elderly. When a stay-at-home mom dies, or a child dies, or a senior citizen suffers irreparable harm, there is no economic loss because it is impossible to prove damages from loss of income.
By capping punitive damages, H.R. 5 limits protection for injured patients like Daniel. Instead the bill before us protects HMOs and big insurance companies from legal responsibility. HMOs and big health insurers, who are also big campaign contributors, should not receive special treatment under the law.
Further, H.R. 5 does nothing to reduce insurance premiums for doctors--the very thing Congress needs to address. Currently, medical malpractice insurance rates are rising because insurance companies are squeezing doctors to make up for investment losses over the last few years, investment loses most citizens have also experienced. Instead of penalizing doctors, hospitals and patients Congress should make major reforms to the insurance industry.
I support the Conyers-Dingell motion to recommit because it rightly focuses on giving Americans quality healthcare and weeding out frivolous lawsuits while maintaining the rights of patients with legitimate claims, and respect for the humanitarian doctor's perform.
I urge my colleagues to oppose H.R. 5 and support the motion to recommit to include patient's rights and state's rights.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield? I thank my friend for yielding. Would the gentleman state the quote again that I said? I did not hear it correctly. I never said anything of the kind. I never…
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
I thank my friend for yielding. Would the gentleman state the quote again that I said? I did not hear it correctly.
I never said anything of the kind.
I never said anything of the kind. I just would like the record to show that, Mr. Speaker.
I thank my friend for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, it is a great honor to be a Member of this institution, and it is an honor for me to have the opportunity to follow my very good friend, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell), the dean of the House.
As we have listened to the arguments that have been provided about the rights of the minority, I have to say that while the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell) served for 14 years as chairman of the Committee on Commerce, I served for 14 years as a member of the minority in this institution. When we won the majority in 1994, I felt very strongly about something that had existed under the democratic rule in this place for 4 uninterrupted decades. I felt strongly about ensuring that the minority had the right to come forward with at least an opportunity, through an amendment and a motion to recommit, which was denied us on many occasions.
Now, last night when we had the testimony in the Committee on Rules, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell) told me that he came here in 1955, and our good friend, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers) came here in 1965, and they had never known of any instance whatsoever when the Democrats had denied the Republican minority the opportunity to consider at least an opportunity to amend through a recommittal motion.
I have to say that I have the greatest respect for the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell), my friend; but I have a list right here of in the 100th Congress, 16 examples of where this was denied.
Now, this issue of payback has come up. Well, so is this payback now that we are imposing on the minority? Absolutely not. Because when we passed our opening day rules package, having served 14 years in the minority, I was very sensitive to make sure that we would guarantee the minority that right to offer a motion to recommit with an amendment, and that is exactly what is going to exist under this process.
Now, I believe that we should have as open and as fair a process as we can, and I stand here continuing to be committed to our goal of ensuring that the minority does have as many rights as possible, and I will continue to fight in behalf of that, because I believe in the Madisonian spirit of minority rights.
I also know that we have a responsibility to move our agenda. And we are doing that, while guaranteeing these minority rights.
Now, when we opened this process last night, I am very happy that my friend, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings), began by talking about the fact that we did meet his request to provide 2 hours. There will be a debate. There will be an opportunity for Members to voice their concern, regardless of what side of this issue they are on. I happen to think that it is very important for us to also recognize that the Committee on the Judiciary and the Committee on Energy and Commerce both had full markups with the exchange of ideas, and the people who have stood up to speak against this rule are people who in fact offered amendments through the committee process. The committee process has worked very effectively here.
We have come together with a package which I believe, through both committees, can, in fact, have an opportunity to be heard; and I urge my colleagues to vote in support of this rule and for the underlying legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for reminding me.
Mr. Speaker, I will have to say it is rather amazing that when the minority is wrong on policy, they focus on process. Mr. Speaker, as a family physician, I have always tried to do what is best for…
Mr. Speaker, I will have to say it is rather amazing that when the minority is wrong on policy, they focus on process.
Mr. Speaker, as a family physician, I have always tried to do what is best for patients, and as a Member of Congress I still try to do what is best for patients in Kentucky and all across America.
Not at this time. I have 3 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, what is best for the patient? I believe that unlimited medical liability awards are bad for patients, because they cause malpractice insurance prices to climb, resulting in more expensive care, fewer doctors, and problems obtaining access to needed care.
H.R. 5, the HEALTH Act of 2003, actually ensures fair compensation for everyone. We need to keep in mind that everyone is entitled to full compensation for their losses, medical bills and wages under H.R. 5.
It is not unusual to hear stories of doctors moving from Kentucky to Indiana, where they have enacted comprehensive liability reform, to take advantage of lower costs of medical liability insurance.
Passing the HEALTH Act, which reasonably reforms our liability system, will hold premiums at a lower, more predictable rate. That will ensure patients are not left without their local physician, who may be otherwise driven out of their practice. And to say that this bill will not reduce frivolous lawsuits and reduce malpractice premiums is truly laughable. Lawsuits do not prevent injuries, they do not reduce medical errors, but they do create an atmosphere of fear, defensiveness and distrust in the doctor-patient relationship.
In fact, a recent study estimated that defensive medicine cost $163 per person per year in Kentucky. That means Kentucky spends about $655 million on unnecessary care due to fear of litigation.
Let me give you specific examples, too. Blue Grass Orthopedic Group in my district has never lost any of the handful of claims filed against its eight doctors. Yet their premiums, which were $222,000 last year, shot up to $635,000, nearly tripling in a single year. Why? Because personal injury lawyers, hoping to hit the jackpot, file frivolous lawsuits.
More than 70 percent of Kentucky physicians say their medical liability insurance premiums increased in 2002. Emergency physicians saw increases greater than 200 percent, general surgeons and orthopedists saw increases between 87 and 122 percent, and obstetricians and internists saw increases between 40 and 64 percent. Several saw several hundred percent increases in their premiums. In other words, this is just unsustainable.
It is estimated that for every obstetrician that leaves a practice in Kentucky, 140 women are left without their physician. That means that women during prenatal care will have to drive an extra 30 or 50 minutes to see a doctor. That also means during labor if that unborn child is in fetal distress, there is an extra 30 minutes of fetal distress, which could blankly rob that child of all their hopes and future of what they potentially could be.
As a family physician, I took an oath to do no harm. The only bill today that will help physicians keep that oath is one that ensures safe and timely access to care through reasonable, comprehensive and effective health care liability reform, and that is H.R. 5. I urge my colleagues to support this rule and vote yes on H.R. 5.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, first of all, as the debate begins, let us put some myths to rest. We are going to hear a great deal of references to the California law that put in a cap. Since 1998, premiums have gone…
Mr. Speaker, first of all, as the debate begins, let us put some myths to rest. We are going to hear a great deal of references to the California law that put in a cap. Since 1998, premiums have gone up 37 percent in California. Nationally they have gone up about 6 percent. So you keep talking about how great that has worked, but frankly it has not. In Florida where they also have a cap, and there are plenty of places around the country that do, they have a $450,000 cap that was put in the last time that suddenly we had an insurance crisis in this country in 1985, 1986. What happened then? Oh, yeah, insurance companies lost a lot of money in the stock market then, too, so that was the last crisis that we had. At the time Florida, they were smart, they asked insurance companies to report back to them the effect of the law. Aetna Casualty reported back. St. Paul, then the largest malpractice insurer, reported back; and in the words of St. Paul they said, quote, ``The new limits will produce little or no savings to the tort system as it pertains to medical malpractice.''
So feel free to keep talking about the examples that we have, but I think that you will find that when push comes to shove, the precedent is that these caps do not lower premiums. They do not lower premiums.
We are also going to hear a great deal of assertion today about out- of-control juries, out-of-control awards, judges who are completely out of their mind when they make decisions. Frankly, Duke Law School studied this notion not so long ago, as a matter of fact, in December of 2002. Here is what they said, and this is a quote: ``The assertion that jurors decide cases out of sympathy for injuries to plaintiffs rather than the legal merits of the case have been made about malpractice juries since at least the 19th century, yet no research shows support for these claims.''
But this is part of what I think is an underlying theme on the other side. American citizens cannot be trusted on juries to decide for themselves. They are not smart enough. Apparently my colleagues believe that juries that are made up of nine or 12 American citizens from your districts cannot be trusted to make these decisions. They simply are not trustworthy. But who are they? They are the same people that voted for you. Why is it you trust them to make a decision about who their Congressman would be and you will not trust them to make a decision about whether or not some medical malpractice case occurred and someone should be held accountable for that?
But there is another current here that I think is even more pernicious. Here we are. We sit in the Committee on the Judiciary. Let us take a look at what we have been doing recently. First, we are coming out after victims of this. This law only applies to you if you have been a victim of medical malpractice. You are a victim, but still we in the House want to take away your rights. Next we are going to take up bankruptcy reform. If you are really poor or you have fallen on hard times, we are coming after you next. But do not get too comfortable, because soon I hear that if you are an asbestos victim, we are going to come after your rights, too. This is who the Republican Party is standing up for in this House.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 5, of which I am an original cosponsor. I cosponsored this bill because I believe that it will help ensure the availability of vital health services for…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. 5, of which I am an original cosponsor. I cosponsored this bill because I believe that it will help ensure the availability of vital health services for patients in this country.
Listening to the debate today, the average citizen would assume that it is necessary to choose sides. Either one is for the docs and other health care providers or they are for the patients. I simply reject that premise and assert another, which is this. We must have a system where good doctors can practice good medicine if we are going to have healthy patients.
Does creating a good system mean that no doctor will ever fail again? No patient will ever again be injured through negligence or poor practice patterns? Of course not. But when those injuries occur through clearly bad behavior on the part of a health care team, I want the health care professionals to be responsible for their action.
I sympathize with the case examples brought to the floor by my colleagues on my own side of the aisle. There are a great many tragedies which occur when health care is poorly delivered. I have no interest in removing appropriate avenues of redress for those injured people and their families, but I do not believe these cases have much, if anything, to do with the bill before us today because it retains a great deal of legal redress for plaintiffs.
No one can claim that the system we have now is good for the doctors or the patients when doctors must pursue expensive defensive medicine rather than doing what they think is right. No one can think it is good for places to have doctors leaving the profession in droves because of the financial and physiological strains of caring for people under current malpractice realities.
The bottom line is that the failure of the medical liability system is compromising patient access to care. More than half of Texas physicians say that they are considering early retirement due to skyrocketing insurance premium, and nearly one-third are reducing the kind of services they provide.
Spiraling medical liability insurance premiums are forcing many hospitals to consider difficult decisions from cutting services to closing clinics. Some hospitals find it difficult to appropriately staff emergency departments, recruit and retain physicians in high-risk specialties. Where is the victory for patients in that scenario?
This situation is further magnified in rural communities where there are fewer hospitals and health care professionals. These hospitals and clinics already operate on narrow profit margins, and skyrocketing medical liability insurance push them closer to the brink of closure.
Ignoring the litigation problems we have now is a recipe for disaster. Many States, like my own, are already on the precipice of disaster, especially in fields like obstetrics.
It is for these reasons I join my fellow colleagues as original cosponsor of the HEALTH Act of 2003. The bill is not perfect. It can be improved but it will not be improved if it is defeated today.
I urge my colleagues, especially those who represent rural America, to support H.R. 5, which will have a chance of stabilizing our Nation's shaky medical liability system.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. I would like to respond to some of the arguments made by the opponents. First off, there has been this constant drumbeat of accusations…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. I would like to respond to some of the arguments made by the opponents. First off, there has been this constant drumbeat of accusations that somehow this legislation does not provide the care and the coverage for those who are harmed. Let us say it for the 15th time: this bill allows anyone who is injured by a doctor or a hospital or any other health care entity the ability to recover every single penny of economic damages, all their medical care, all their lost wages, lifetimes of lost wages. There are cases over and over again in the State of California that has this legislation in place where there are awards of $50 million, $80 million, et cetera. Plenty of money for the victims to cover their needs.
Secondly, there is this drumbeat that this is really about the insurance industry. Why are we not regulating the insurance industry? Listen carefully. Sixty percent of the physicians in this country buy their medical liability insurance from physician-owned companies. Those companies exist for one purpose, and that is to keep the price of medical liability insurance low. They do not gouge their customers; they do not collude with one another, because they are the doctors. They are not doing anything to raise rates or to hold rates up high. They are doing everything to push rates down. Guess what? They cannot offer lower premium prices than commercial insurers. So if your whole thesis here is, oh, those insurance companies, they are overcharging, they are gouging, they are colluding, explain to me, I beg you, stand up and explain to me why it is that the physician-owned companies are in the same boat and are not able to provide affordable coverage?
The gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Pallone) talked about shielding pharmaceutical companies, shielding HMOs, device companies from lawsuits. This bill does nothing of the kind. If a pharmaceutical company is guilty of making bad medicine or overcharging medicine, they will be liable for millions of dollars, untold millions of dollars for economic damages. There is no shield whatsoever.
Then finally let me say this. We have heard over and over again from the opponents of this legislation, it does not really help doctors. Let us see who supports it: the American Medical Association, the American Association of Neurological Surgeons, the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists, the American Association of Orthopedic Surgeons, the American Association of Thoracic Surgery, the American Association for Vascular Surgery, the American College of Cardiology, the College of Chest Physicians, the College of Emergency Physicians, the College of Nurse Midwives, the College of Nurse Practitioners, the California Medical Association. Every doctors' group in America supports this legislation.
So do not stand up with a straight face, opponents of this legislation, and tell us that the doctors are not smart enough to figure out that this is exactly the prescription that they need.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield on that point? We yielded on our side. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding. I want to say to my friend from Kentucky, who says that we rise to focus…
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield on that point?
We yielded on our side.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
I want to say to my friend from Kentucky, who says that we rise to focus on process, I tell my friend from Kentucky there is a reason for that, because your Committee on Rules does not have the courage to allow us to debate substance. It does not have the courage to allow us to offer a substitute and amendments to your bill so that we could discuss substance. Have courage on your side, that substance is what ought to be at risk here. We are prepared to debate it. Allow us to do so.
Mr. Speaker, once again today the Republican leadership is employing outrageous tactics that trample the rights of the minority and rig the rules of this debate.
As long as the gentleman yielded to me.
Mr. Speaker, these tactics demean the People's House. Hear me. Hear me. These tactics demean the People's House, demean democracy, demean freedom, and they fly in the face of commitments by Republicans when they regained the majority to run an open and deliberative process.
These comments are on the record. Here is how Gerald Solomon, the former Republican Chair of the Committee on Rules, explained it in November of 1994 when you were just about to take power. This is a quote, on the record:
``The guiding principles will be openness and fairness. The Rules Committee will no longer rig the procedure to contrive a predetermined outcome. From now on,'' the Republicans said, ``the Rules Committee will clear the stage for debate and let the House work its will.''
The year before, Congressman Solomon remarked, ``Every time we deny an open amendment process on an important piece of legislation, we are disenfranchising the people and their representatives from the legislative process.''
Mr. Speaker, this side of the aisle represents at least 140 million people. This side of the aisle represents 140 million Americans, and you have shut them up today, and you shut them up last week, and you may be considering shutting us up next week. Not 204 or 205 Democrats, but 140 million Americans.
I submit that this is precisely what we are doing today under this closed rule, which is what Mr. Solomon said you would not do. But you do it this day, and you demean this House.
I would say to the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Fletcher), yes, that is why we talk about process, because we want to show why we are not serving doctors this day; why in State after State after State that have capped recovery premiums have not gone down. Doctors will not be served by this legislation you offer, and you will not allow us an amendment to do something that will protect doctors, that will protect patients, that will protect injured people.
This is a travesty of democracy, and it is a travesty for people who are injured severely by the negligence of others.
Vote against the previous question, vote against this bill, vote for fairness and equity in this House.
Mr. Speaker, I say to my colleagues, vote down this iniquitous rule. It is unfair. It is demeaning. It strikes at the heart of the parliamentary practices that are the proud tradition of this body.…
Mr. Speaker, I say to my colleagues, vote down this iniquitous rule. It is unfair. It is demeaning. It strikes at the heart of the parliamentary practices that are the proud tradition of this body. It also tears at the throat of honorable and open and fair debate. It denies every Member, not just Democrats, the right to offer amendments to the bill. Mr. Speaker, 31 amendments were requested of the Committee on Rules last night; not a one was given. A substitute was given.
The chairman of the committee talks of the need to have a fair and open process. Well, we do not have a fair and open process. Therefore, vote down the rule, vote down the previous question. It is an outrage, and it is inconsistent with the tradition and practices of the House.
I would point out that in the rules, rule XVI, clause 6 begins, ``When an amendable proposition is under consideration, a motion to amend and a motion to amend that amendment shall be in order.'' It is in the rules. The Committee on Rules should read it.
We are not discussing the substance of the legislation. We hope to have a fair chance to do so. We hope to have a
fair chance to amend the basic proposition before this body. The Committee on Rules has not given it to us.
I went before the Committee last night and I asked, am I wasting my time and am I wasting your time by being here? The answer is, I was. I was not told that I was, but the simple fact of the matter was the decision had already been made. The process had already been carefully cooked so that no opportunity to amend the bill is before this body at this time.
We can talk about what it is that is wrong with this legislation and how the amendments would improve it. That is really not important. What is important is that the basic rights of the Members of this body, the basic prerogatives of the institution to perfect legislation before it has been denied by the majority, functioning through the organism of the Committee on Rules.
In 14 years as the chairman of the Committee on Commerce, never once did I go before the Committee on Rules to ask for anything other than an open rule so that all Members might have a fair chance to participate in the debate on the legislation and to offer amendments as the need would require, no matter how complex or controversial the legislation was. That is the way this institution should work.
This rule demeans this body. It demeans every Member here, and it demeans the Committee on Rules and those who have inflicted this outrage upon this body.
I say again, vote this rule down. It is wrong. It is arrogant. It is without justification. I note that it comes up on a day when this is the last item of business of the week and when this is the last item of business that will be done. Let us vote it down, and let us then go about the business of conducting the business of the House in a fashion which is consistent with the traditions of this great democratic institution.
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[H. Res. 139 Engrossed in House (EH)]
In the House of Representatives, U.S.,
March 13, 2003.
Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it shall be in order
without intervention of any point of order to consider in the House the bill
(H.R. 5) to improve patient access to health care services and provide improved
medical care by reducing the excessive burden the liability system places on the
health care delivery system. The bill shall be considered as read for amendment.
In lieu of the amendments recommended by the Committees on the Judiciary and on
Energy and Commerce now printed in the bill, the amendment in the nature of a
substitute printed in the report of the Committee on Rules accompanying this
resolution shall be considered as adopted. The previous question shall be
considered as ordered on the bill, as amended, to final passage without
intervening motion except: (1) two hours of debate on the bill, as amended, with
80 minutes equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority
member of the Committee on the Judiciary and 40 minutes equally divided and
controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on
Energy and Commerce; and (2) one motion to recommit with or without
instructions.
Sec. 2. House Resolution 126 is laid on the table.
Attest:
Clerk.