Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 660) to amend title I of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 to improve access and choice for entrepreneurs with small businesses with respect to medical care for their employees.
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Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
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June 18, 2003
The House Committee on Rules reported an original measure, H. Rept. 108-160, by Mr. Diaz-Balart, L..
June 18, 2003
The amendment recommended by the Committee on Education and the Workforce now printed in the bill shall be considered as adopted.
June 18, 2003 • 3:55 PM
Placed on the House Calendar, Calendar No. 67.
June 18, 2003
Considered as privileged matter. (consideration: CR H5555-5562)
June 19, 2003 • 10:19 AM
DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H. Res. 283.
June 19, 2003 • 10:19 AM
On ordering the previous question Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 224 - 198 (Roll no. 289).
June 19, 2003 • 11:31 AM
Passed/agreed to in House: On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by recorded vote: 224 - 199 (Roll no. 290).(text: CR H5555)
June 19, 2003 • 11:39 AM
On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by recorded vote: 224 - 199 (Roll no. 290). (text: CR H5555)
June 19, 2003 • 11:39 AM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
June 19, 2003 • 11:39 AM
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Madam Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 283, I call up the bill (H.R. 660) to amend title I of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 to improve access and choice for entrepreneurs…
Madam Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 283, I call up the bill (H.R. 660) to amend title I of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 to improve access and choice for entrepreneurs with small businesses with respect to medical care for their employees, and ask for its immediate consideration in the House.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Madam Speaker, the most pressing crisis that we face in health care today is the number of Americans who lack basic health insurance benefits. It is a problem that can be illustrated by just a few numbers, so let us just look at the facts.
Today, 41 million Americans are uninsured. This problem is not going to go away, and we have a responsibility to confront it. With health care costs continuing to rise sharply across the country, more and more employers and workers are sharing the burden of increased premiums. Employer-based health insurance premiums leaped an average of 15 percent in 2003, the largest increase in at least a decade, according to a study just released June 11 by the Center for Studying Health System Change. We know that for every 1 percent increase in coverage, additional price increase, 300,000 more people lose their health insurance, according to a 1999 study by the Lewin Group, a national health care and human services consulting firm.
The second number is 60. Sixty is the percentage of the 41 million uninsured Americans who either work for a small business or who are dependent upon someone who does. So let us remember, there are 60 percent of the uninsured where they or one of their dependents works every day for a company that likely does not offer health insurance. Many of these Americans work for small employers who cannot afford to purchase quality health insurance benefits for their workers. Notably, the 2002 Census Bureau statistics show that employer-sponsored health care coverage has declined because small businesses with less than 25 workers have been forced to drop coverage because of rising health care costs. These small employers are denied the ability to purchase quality health benefits that compare with the coverage that large, multi-State corporations and unions have been offering to their workers for decades.
The last number is $130 billion. Yes, $130 billion is the cost to the American economy every year of poor health and premature deaths amongst those 41 million Americans who lack basic health insurance coverage, according to a study released just this week by the Institute of Medicine. Madam Speaker, $130 billion a year of additional costs to our society and disproportionately aimed at the 41 million Americans that do not have any health insurance.
The implications of these numbers are tragic, not just for employers who cannot afford the high cost of health insurance, but the millions of uninsured families who are being denied access to quality care. Clearly, we need to focus on providing affordable health care to the uninsured as well as ensure that employers who provide health benefits to their employees are not forced to drop coverage because of rising premiums and high administrative costs.
The Small Business Health Fairness Act, which we have on the floor today, responds to this problem and can help reduce the high cost of health insurance for small businesses and uninsured working families. By creating association health plans, which would be strictly regulated by the Department of Labor, small businesses could pool their resources and increase their bargaining power with benefit providers, which will allow them to negotiate better rates and purchase quality health care at a lower cost.
President Bush addressed this point directly last year during his speech at the Women's Entrepreneurship Summit when he said, ``Small businesses will be able to pool together and spread their risk across a large employee base.
It makes no sense in America to isolate small businesses as little health care islands unto themselves. We must have association health plans.
Well, the President is right, and we should help level this playing field so that small businesses can afford to offer the kind of quality coverage that large companies and unions do across America today.
Importantly, the bill gives AHPs the freedom from costly State mandates because small businesses deserve to be treated in the same fashions as corporations like GM and UPS, and unions who receive the same exemption so that they can offer high quality plans and benefits to their workers. Clearly, State health care mandates are useless to families who do not have the health care coverage in the first place. And if you do not have health care coverage, State mandates requiring health plans to offer specific benefits to those they cover do you and your family no good at all.
Let us be clear on the protections this bill provides workers, however, because it includes strong safeguards to protect workers. In fact, the solvency standards in the bill go far beyond what is required any single employer plan or labor union plan under law. And despite the bipartisan nature of this bill, some misinformation has been spread about the bill that I would like to take a moment to correct.
The measure protects against cherrypicking because we make clear that the AHPs must comply with the 1996 Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, HIPAA, which prohibits group health plans from excluding or charging a higher rate to high-risk individuals with a high-claims experience.
Under our bill, sick or high-risk groups or individuals cannot be denied coverage. In addition, AHPs cannot charge higher rates for employers with sicker individuals within the plan, except to the extent already allowed by State law based on where the employer is located.
The bill also contains strict requirements under which only bona fide professional and trade associations can sponsor an association health plan, and therefore does not allow sham association plans set up by health insurance companies to go out and do what some did over the next decade or so. These organizations must be established for purposes other than providing health insurance and they have to be in existence for at least 3 years prior to the passage of this bill.
This campaign of disinformation belies not just the need for the bill, but the bipartisan support behind it. Not only is it strongly supported by the President of the United States, President Bush and Secretary Chao at the Department of Labor, but it has more than 160 bipartisan co-sponsors, including my colleague, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Sam Johnson), the subcommittee chairman; the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Fletcher), the former member of our committee, now on the Committee on Energy and Commerce; or the Democrat member, the gentleman from California (Mr. Dooley); and the Democrat member, the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. Velazquez).
It is noteworthy and significant that Republicans and Democrats alike are joining together to deal with the crisis affecting more than 41 million uninsured Americans. Uninsured workers deserve the security of knowing that health care is not just a dream but a reality for them and for their families. This bill can help make that happen.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds. What we want to do in this bill is to give small employers the same advantages in the marketplace that large companies and unions have today. And that is the real secret behind this. Why can they not go out as a group and design a plan that would meet their needs just like a big company can for their employees?
Madam Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Fletcher), the author of this bill and someone who has worked on it for many, many years.
Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks on H.R. 660.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Ms. VELAZQUEZ).
(Ms. VELAZQUEZ asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Madam Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds.
The foundation of our health insurance market in the United States is employer-provided coverage set up through ERISA, the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974. It covers 150 million American lives. We are trying to allow small employers who belong to statewide associations, national associations, the opportunity to band together to create an insurance policy that will benefit not only the small business but, more importantly, their employees.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. Blackburn).
Madam Speaker, as I said earlier, this bill does have broad bipartisan support. I am happy to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Wynn).
Madam Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dooley), one of my good friends and colleagues on the Committee on Agriculture.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time. We could look at the problem of the 41 million Americans through many different lenses, and we could talk about solutions. We believe that we are bringing a solution here where we are showing the glass half full.
My colleagues on the other side want to look at this solution as a glass that is half empty. The fact is that 41 million Americans have no health insurance, and we in this Congress, over the last decade, have talked about it and talked about it and talked about it. As a matter of fact, we brought this bill to the floor on two occasions before today, and unfortunately the other body did not see fit to move the legislation. But we are not going to quit because if we do not help these 41 million Americans who have no health insurance, guess what, they are going to continue to get sicker. They are going to end up getting treatment later in their illness, and they are going to continue to pile up massive amounts of healthcare debt that by and large they do not pay for, those who purchase health insurance pay for in terms of higher fees.
We have heard all of the discussion about the fact that we do not mandate this coverage and mandate this coverage.
The reason that we have the crisis in many States is because they have mandated every coverage known to man be stipulated in each of the policies, whether they need the coverage or not. Large employer plans do not have mandates other than two small mandates that are in ERISA. Neither did the union plans. They cover virtually all of these diseases and all of these treatments because that is what their employees want. We know that bare-bones policies do not work because employers do not buy them and their employees do not want them. And if we look at the best plans in America, they happen to be large employer plans, union plans that cover broad healthcare coverage and those employees love those plans.
Why would we not allow small businesses to come together, and whether it is through the Ohio Chamber of Commerce or the National Restaurant Association or the Lumbermen's Association, or how about the Farm Bureau, why would we not allow them to allow their members to come together where they could offer them a package of healthcare plans? Maybe it is one or two, maybe it is four or five potential plans that their members would get to choose from.
Take the issue of farmers, I have got a lot of farmers in my district. They are independent contractors. Their ability to go out and buy health insurance on not on their own is about zero unless they wants to pay $1,000 to $2,000 a month. If they were allowed to come together with other farmers around Ohio, other farmers around the country, guess what? They would get much better coverage than they are getting today at far less cost, and why should we not give them the opportunity to do this?
So I say to my colleagues as we end the general debate today, this is a good bill. It has strong bipartisan support, and I urge my colleagues to support the underlying bill.
Mr. Speaker, I am opposed to the gentleman's amendment and claim the time in opposition.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, instead of embracing this bipartisan bill like many of their colleagues, some House Democrats have, instead, offered a substitute that is really no alternative at all.
Their plan does nothing to address one of the real issues that is really at the heart of this debate, and that is cost. In fact, it takes us exactly in the wrong direction of where we are trying to going, raising costs for small businesses and imposing with new mandates on employers. Instead of relying on competition that AHPs would provide, thereby lowering costs, their alternative could drive small employers out of business altogether.
Moreover, the substitute comes with a $50 billion price tag establishing a complex new Federal program that includes health care subsidies for certain small businesses and some workers who work in small businesses. It would establish a national Government-subsidized health care plan that attempts to model itself after the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan, but instead imposes a new mandate such as requiring small employers to pay 50 percent of their premiums for employees.
However, unlike the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan that is exempt from costly State mandates and regulations, coverage offered under this substitute would subject this plan to the more than 1,500 State mandates that make up about 15 percent of the rising cost of health insurance. In addition, in order to qualify, the substitute imposes new mandates on employer plans. For example, the substitute mandates that employers provide health care coverage to every employee who has been employed for at least 3 months.
In addition, it mandates that employers pay 50 percent of the cost of health care premiums for employees and that they cover all dependents of their workers. Well meaning, but in the end, these mandates will prohibit employers from proceeding. Self-employed individuals, however, are not covered by the substitute and would receive no benefits.
So let us make clear this fact. Small businesses today have the highest health care premiums of any other group. Premiums increased this year by at least 15 percent, the highest increase in a decade. And premiums are even higher for small businesses that see increases of 40 to 50 percent a year as employers continue to get out of small group activities and States. In fact, the increase in the uninsured this year, now 41 million Americans, was made up entirely of small business workers who lost their health care coverage because their employers could not afford to continue to provide this benefit.
So in answer to this, the substitute proposes to raise the cost to those small employers by adding new coverage requirements and subjecting it to more than 1,500 State mandates. And then we are going to spend $50 billion worth of Federal taxpayers' money to subsidize this coverage.
In contrast, AHPs use the strengths of the employer-based system that cover about 150 million American lives today, and we rely on the private market. The benefits of competition, the economies of scales that are enjoyed by large unions and large companies all across the country to help lower costs and to provide better coverage for their workers.
AHPs allow small businesses to access the benefits of ERISA that are currently offered to large employers and unions. ERISA exempts large employers and unions from State mandates so that they are able to offer a quality benefit package from one coast to another or in just several adjoining States.
This uniformity reduces the cost so that more of the health care dollar that they are spending can actually go to benefits for their employees, and the lowering of the administrative costs also allows these companies and unions to offer more benefits to their members.
Through ERISA, employers and unions are able to offer benefits that best fit the needs of their employees. Their small business counterparts deserve the same opportunity to craft benefit packages that are both high quality and affordable.
The substitute would offer employers a difficult Hobson's choice: Meet these conditions, which may strap a business to the point of going under; or face limited and costly alternatives to health care coverage; or they can just do what they do today, offer no health care coverage to their employees.
Instead of making it possible for small businesses to access more affordable coverage, their coverage options will actually be more expensive, and then we are going to finance it with higher taxes.
While AHP legislation would be implemented quickly, the Democrat substitute might take years to get up and running because we are going to require the Department of Labor to design this, then to figure out how they are going to sell it, and then figure out how they are going to parcel out the $50 billion. If the appropriation does not go through, then you have got a plan with no financing behind it at all.
So, let me make myself clear, if I have not already: I believe our Nation's employer-sponsored health care system is a huge American success story. Employers provide coverage for the vast majority of our Nation's population, and almost 150 million Americans have coverage through ERISA.
The Committee on Education and the Workforce and the Department of Labor through our oversight of ERISA have jurisdiction over employer- sponsored health care, and I support the employer-based system to address the problem of the uninsured.
However, the way that the substitute does that is not by building on our strengths to offer really good plans. The mandates in their bill will basically say to small employers, you either offer the best health care plan in the entire market that is possible to your employees, or you get no help at all.
I think the strengths of the current system are good, and I think building on those by allowing Association Healthcare Plans will, in fact, work.
This bill is being supported by our nation's small business associations. The NIFB, the National Retail Association, the National Association of Wholesale Distributors, the National Association of Homebuilders, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and others strongly support this bill, and the same groups oppose the substitute that we have before us.
So I hope Members will join me in offering assistance to our Nation's small businesses by supporting the underlying bill, and I ask my colleagues to reject the substitute we have before us.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I thank my good colleague for yielding me this time.
We have heard about these studies today; and the gentleman knows that is the study, or at least has heard me say that the study done by Mercer is very similar to the study done by the Congressional Budget Office, and they are both flawed. They are very flawed. They do not take into account the fact that we have anti-cherrypicking language in the bill, and they assume in their studies that cherrypicking would be allowed.
Secondly, they assume that there would not be any difference in the administrative fees for running the plan. The fact is that we have studies that show that up to 8 million of the uninsured would have access to affordable, quality health insurance.
Let me also point out exactly what our bill does. The gentleman from New Jersey just said in the State of New Jersey, for a single person to buy a
health insurance plan is about $6,000 and family coverage is about $12,000. The average cost for a large employer for the cost of their health insurance is about $3,300 for a single person and about $5,500 for a family.
I yield to the gentleman from New Jersey.
Mr. Speaker, I made some phone calls to find several plans that were both in the same area.
The fact is, that is exactly what this bill does. It allows small employers to band together to get themselves into a larger pool to design their own plan so that they can, in fact, offer better coverage at lower cost to their employees.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, the 15 percent reduction is only the reduction in the administrative costs of running the plan. When you begin to look at what pooling and larger pools will do, it brings the costs down significantly.
Mr. Speaker, we believe that the average reduction for a small employer would be somewhere between 15 and 30 percent.
I do, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Isakson), a member of our committee.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, the gentleman referred to his ability to offer a package under ERISA to your 220 employees on the business you managed, but what about those 900 real estate agents that work as independent contractors for this company, who had to go out and fight on their own, day in and day out, to get a policy for themselves or for their family? And under this bill, if I am correct, the National Association of Realtors or the Georgia Realtor Association could offer a group plan to their real estate agents which would bring their costs down substantially.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Shuster).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Burgess)
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from South Bend, Indiana (Mr. Chocola).
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey), a member of our committee.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Sam Johnson), the chairman of the Subcommittee on Employer-Employee Relations, the gentleman who shepherded this bill through our committee.
(Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, we have 41 million Americans who do not have health insurance. As I said before, Congress has been talking about this for a decade. And while the underlying bill will not solve the entire problem, it will help in addressing the needs of the uninsured.
As we heard before, some 60 percent either work for or have a dependent who works for a business, and so they have jobs. We are not talking about the poor here, because the poor get covered by Medicaid. We are talking about people who go to work every day, but they happen to work in an industry that maybe does not traditionally cover health insurance, or they work for a small employer who just cannot afford it because they are locked in a small State insurance pool.
We know what the cost of health insurance and these increases do. It creates more uninsured. In the Wall Street Journal today, CALPERS, the country's largest health plan, is set to increase premiums on an average of 17 percent for the next year, a 17 percent increase from the largest health care plan in the country. It is time that we step up and take action.
The underlying bill will in fact help small businesses create more coverage for more people. Small businesses. And who are small businesses? How about the dry cleaner down the street or the convenience store? How about the farmers in America today who have to go fend for themselves as an individual in the marketplace? They may be by themselves, maybe just family coverage. How about the real estate agents we talked about before, independent contractors, and others who may be self-employed that have to go fight to get insurance in very small risk pools in many States? If we allow them to come together with large State associations, national associations, and to group themselves, they can have real coverage for a much more reasonable cost.
This is the right thing to do today, to help those who pay high premiums; and it is also the right thing to do to help those who have no insurance at all. Those plans that are out there covered under ERISA are the Cadillac of plans in the country. Why not let small employers have the same advantage.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the motion to recommit.
Mr. Speaker, the underlying bill seeks to address the needs of 41 million Americans who have no health insurance. What the motion to recommit does is essentially mandate coverage on association health care plans. If you have no health insurance, a mandate will do you no good. What we seek to do with the underlying bill is to cover more people. Sixty percent of the people who are uninsured either work in a small business or have a relative that works in a small business. What we are trying to do here is level the playing field so that small businesses can buy health insurance for their employees just like large companies and unions can do today.
Under ERISA, there are but several small mandates. We do not mandate every coverage. But if you ask employees of large companies and you ask employees and members of large unions, they will tell you that they have the best health care plans in America. These large plans in our country have great benefits. They cover virtually all the illnesses and all the diseases that are there. But they are allowed to design one benefit issue for each of these mandates that covers all 50 States. It may not read the same in every particular State. What we are trying to do with the underlying bill is to give small businesses the same advantage in the marketplace that big businesses have today.
I would urge my colleagues at this hour, reject the motion to recommit and vote for the final passage of this bill.
Madam Speaker, it is my opinion that H.R. 660 will hurt the ability of small employers to access insurance coverage. Contrary to creating larger pools of small employers, H.R. 660 will fragment the…
Madam Speaker, it is my opinion that H.R. 660 will hurt the ability of small employers to access insurance coverage. Contrary to creating larger pools of small employers, H.R. 660 will fragment the small group insurance market into a myriad of smaller and smaller pools with healthy small firms separated from those firms with sick employees. The basic fabric of small employer insurance--that healthy and sick must be pooled together to create cross-subsidies--will be irreparably torn to the detriment of all small firms. Small firms will be returned to the unstable and erratic marketplace of the 1980's-- before states imposed small group reform protections. Specifically, the dissenting Members of the Committee find that H.R. 660 will lead to:
(1) Higher Premiums for Most Small Firms and Rampant Discrimination
(II) Widespread AHP Failure and Millions of Dollars in Unpaid Claims
(III) More Uninsured--Particularly Among the Most Vulnerable
(IV) Consumers Stripped of Their State Protections
(V) No Administrative Cost Savings
(1) Higher Premiums for Most Small Firms and Rampant Discrimination
H.R. 660 would allow insured Association Health Plans (AHPs) to avoid covering the oldest and sickest smallest employers by charging them unaffordable rates that would not be allowed if the AHP was subject to state law. As a result, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) found that 80 percent of small employers would see their premiums increased as a result of the passage of H.R. 660. A June 2003 Mercer study predicts health insurance premiums will increase by 23 percent for small employers that continue to purchase state regulated insurance.
Under H.R. 660, insured AHPs could ``forum-shop'' for the state with the weakest rating rules (a handful of states lack any formal premium restrictions). Once the AHP's policy is approved in a weekly regulated state, the AHP may sell the coverage across the country without regard to the rating rules in the remaining 49 states.
For instance, New York is normally a community rating state that does not allow variation of rates between small employers because of differences in the health status of their employees. But an insured AHP could sell coverage in New York that charges much higher premiums to small employers with sick employees. This will allow the AHP to attract low-risk employers from the state regulated pool--a practice known as ``cherry-picking''. Employers with sick employees would remain in the state regulated pool because they would be effectively barred from the AHP through the quotation of exorbitant rates. The Small Business Administration 2003 study on Association Health Plans describes it as follows:
``Thus AHPs located in states with the less stringent state
laws could offer insurance to the lower cost groups that are
now forced to subsidize higher cost groups in those states
that require community rating or narrow rate ``bands.''
The American Academy of Actuaries warns against this exemption of AHPs from state rating rules:
``The result would be that small employers whose employees
are greater health risks are more likely to obtain coverage
from the private health insurance market, where rates are
limited, than through AHPs, who may not have the same
limitations. State small group legislation sought to
eliminate this sort of selection in the market by requiring
health insurers to put all their small groups in one pool and
to limit the premium charged to one employer relative to
another. Introducing AHPs that are not required to adhere to
the same rating rules brings selection back into the market.
The consequence will be that the rates for the two pools will
diverge, causing further instability in an already fragile
marketplace.''
The Committee had an opportunity to clarify this critical point during the Committee mark-up. Representative Majette (D-GA) offered an amendment that would have prohibited AHPs from varying the rates of small employers beyond the variance allowed under state law. The Committee rejected this amendment.
Indeed, it appears that proponents of AHP passage have long held evasion of state rating rules as a key objective. In ``Insuring the Uninsured through Association Health Plans,'' the AHP proponent National Center for Policy Analysis argues against premium rating restrictions in the small group market because they ``keep premiums artificially low for the sickest groups and artificially high for the healthiest.'' NCPA argues that ``in a competitive market, every new person in a plan will tend to be charged a premium that reflects the expected costs of that person's health care at the time of entry into the plan. . . . However, in health insurance the tradition is to scorn new entrants for `cherry picking.' Yet cherry picking is nothing more than trying to satisfy consumer needs better than a rival.''
It is also important to recognize that H.R. 660 would allow discrimination against small firms with sick employees before and after enrollment with an AHP. In this cruel ``bait and switch'' game, a small firm believes it has secure health insurance coverage only to find it placed in jeopardy when an employee falls ill. The Small Business Administration 2003 study describes the post-enrollment discrimination process:
The House legislation, however, would also permit some of
the abuses of the insurance principle that led states to
adopt the rate reform legislation in the early 1990's. Some
states still permit insurers to use forms of durational tier
rating based on claims experience or ``reunderwriting'', the
practice of processing claims information in a manner similar
to the initial underwriting process, typically using
diagnosis-based or other risk adjustment to determine like
future claims experience and appropriate rerating action. The
association's insurer could offer very low rates as long as
all of a group's members are in good health, but increase the
premium to reflect the fully anticipated cost when one or
more group members develop expensive health conditions. AHPs
would be mainly regulated by DOL which does not have the
resources and experience of state insurance departments. \7\
The ability of AHP's to forum shop for the most lenient state means that a small firm enrolled in an AHP who has an employee contract cancer, or another dread disease, could
face an immediate--and unlimited--premium increase. The AHP would not necessarily have to wait until renewal to impose this premium increase and the premium increase could be of such a magnitude that the small firm would have no choice but to drop coverage. Although the firm could return to the state regulated market on a guaranteed issue basis, the premiums offered by regulated carriers would be very high because of the fact that AHPs had ``cherry picked'' the low-risk firms away from the state regulated pool. Ultimately, this dramatic adverse selection will drive carriers from the unsustainable state regulated small group market leaving high-risk small firms with no access to coverage within a short period following AHP passage.
With regard to self-funded AHPs, H.R. 660 allows them to differentiate the premiums of small firms based on health status to the extent state law allows. This is contrary to the Committee's stated objective of furthering the ability of AHPs to play the same role that large employers play under ERISA. Section 702 (b) of ERISA--added by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act--clearly prohibits large employers from charging similarly situated employees different premiums based on their health status:
A group health plan, and a health insurance issuer offering
health insurance coverage in connection with a group health
plan, may not require any individual (as a condition of
enrollment or continued enrollment under the plan) to pay a
premium or contribution which is greater than such premium or
contribution for a similarly situated individual enrolled in
the plan on the basis of any health status-related factor in
relation to the individual or to an individual enrolled under
the plan as a dependent of the individual.
This means that two computer engineers working in Seattle for Microsoft can expect to pay the same premium for their employer group health plan--even though one is very sick with cancer and the other perfectly healthy. Under H.R. 660 however, a sick computer engineer's firm could be charged a much higher premium than a healthy computer engineer's firm even though both firms are members of the same Association--perhaps a Seattle Association dedicated to technology start-ups.
Clearly H.R. 660 is not furthering the ability of small employers to access the stability of large employer coverage; instead it is retracting the stabilizing protections small employers enjoy under current state law. Furthermore, limiting a self-funded AHP's ability to rate based upon health status to state law will not limit an AHP's ability to ``cherry-pick'' from the state regulated market. Ample opportunity for risk selection remains, including:
Rating based upon age and gender: H.R. 660 would exempt AHPs from state rules that limit the ability to increase a firm's premiums based on the age and gender of employees. Older individuals typically generate claims costs nearly seven times those of younger individuals. In fact, actuaries consider age as a very close proxy for health status. Young females typically generate significantly higher claims than those of their male counterparts. With the unlimited age/gender rating flexibility granted under H.R. 660, AHPs could offer very low rates to firms with low-cost younger workers, draining the state regulated pool of the types of firms needed to keep premiums stable for firms dominated by older individuals or women in their childbearing years.
Geographic ``Redlining'': H.R. 660 allows AHPs flexibility to determine their geographic service area. AHPs would be free to avoid geographic locations with high health care costs. They could choose to avoid certain parts of a city with populations with a high prevalence of expensive illnesses. For instance, Hispanic Americans have a disproportionately high rate of diabetes, and the African American community has been particularly hard hit by AIDS. AHPs could avoid selling coverage in minority neighborhoods--or charge a much higher premium to firms located in those areas--as a proxy for rating for health status. AHPs also could avoid geographic locations where significant portions of residents engage in high-risk occupations--they could avoid lumberjacking towns or farming communities. The League of United Latin American Citizens and the National Council of La Raza recognize these risks and have opposed H.R. 660.
Exclusion of Very Small Firms: So-called ``baby groups''--firms with fewer than 5 employees--are actuarially very expensive to insure. Their claims expenses generally are much higher than those of firms with more employees. HIPAA requires insurers to accept these very small groups and states require insurers to pool these very small firms with the rest of the small group pool. H.R. 660 would allow AHPs to exclude very small firms from their membership altogether (e.g. establish a ``mid-sized'' business association) or accept the small firms as members but charge them much higher premiums than their larger counterparts.
The use of age, gender, geography and firm size in rating practices provide the flexibility necessary for self-funded AHPs to limit their covered lives to low-risk, low-cost firms. Opponents to this legislation recognize that the rampant cherry picking H.R. 660 will foster will hurt all small firms in the long run. That is why the American Academy of Actuaries and the National Association of Insurance Commissioners are joined in their opposition to H.R. 660 by the following business organizations:
National Small Business United
28 Chambers of Commerce
Four Farm Bureaus
10 Local Small Business Associations (e.g. New Hampshire High Tech Council)
17 Labor Organizations
(II) Widespread AHP Failure and Millions of Dollars in Unpaid Claims
The General Accounting Office (GAO) reported that a previous 1974 preemption of state law for Multiple Employer Welfare Arrangements (note: all AHPs are MEWAs) left nearly 400,000 consumers with over $123 million in unpaid bills. H.R. 660 will force this sad history to repeat itself--but the unfortunate results will be magnified since the growth of the internet and other communications channels will allow unsound AHPs to attract vulnerable members at a much more rapid rate.
Former Chief Counsel for the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations and Inspector General for the Department of Defense Eleanor Hill warns:
AHPs are fundamentally the same types of organizations as
many MEWAs that have, in the past, been sponsored through
associations. If exempted from state regulation, AHPs would
pose the same kinds of unacceptable risks to consumers. . . .
Nothing in this legislation would prevent the same
proliferation of plan failures and consumers losses that
occurred when these types of organizations were last clearly
exempt from state regulation.\8\
Former FDIC and Resolution Trust Corporation Chairman Bill Seidman also has issued warnings regarding the exemption of AHPs from state oversight: ``I am concerned that it places consumers at risk and could set the stage for a taxpayer bailout similar to the one necessitated by the savings and loan failures of the 1980's.
AHP failures will be driven by three fundamental weaknesses in H.R. 660:
1. DOL Lacks Resources and Expertise to Takeover State Regulation of Self-funded AHPs
2. Insured AHPs will Exist in a Regulatory Vacuum, with Neither the States or DOL Able to Regulate
3. Solvency Standards are Inadequate
DOL Lacks Resources and Expertise to Takeover State Regulation of Self-
funded AHPs
Transferring regulatory authority of self-funded AHPs to DOL will represent a monumental change in the scope of DOL's regulatory responsibilities. Although it is often quoted that DOL currently administers ERISA for current group health plans--DOL's role is very limited. They are not responsible for reviewing reserve levels or assuring that actuarially fair premiums are charged and they are not in constant monitoring mode as state insurance commissioners are. DOL has admitted that its enforcement efforts under ERISA are:
. . . considerably different from and often more limited than
the remedies generally available to the states under their
insurance laws. In this regard, it is important to note that,
in many instances, states may be able to take immediate
action with respect to a MEWA upon determining that the MEWA
has failed to comply with licensing, contribution or reserve
requirements under State insurance laws whereas investigating
and substantiating a fiduciary breach under ERISA may take
considerably longer.
In fact, H.R. 660 does not even authorize the Secretary to immediately terminate a failing AHP's operations. Instead, it directs the Secretary to apply to the appropriate United States district court for appointment as trustee to administer the termination of the plan.
A 2002 General Accounting Office (GAO) report found that DOL's Office of Pension and Welfare Benefits Administration (PWBA) is understaffed for its current responsibilities. With regard to pension responsibilities, the report found that DOL faces an ``overabundance of work'' as well as ``limited investigative resources'' and ``staff shortages.'' It found that a review to determine pension plan noncompliance with ERISA would ``require PWBA's full investigative staff 90 years to fully and accurately complete.
Similarly in 1997, Assistant Secretary of Labor Olena Berg testified: ``An infrastructure adequate to handle the new responsibilities [for Association Health Plans] replicating the functions of 50 state insurance commissioners, simply does not exist.'' Berg noted that the current staff would be able to review each health plan once every 300 years.
H.R. 660 includes no provisions that would address this problem. No additional resources or retraining dollars for DOL are included.
Insured AHPs will Exist in a Regulatory Vacuum, with Neither the States
nor DOL able to Regulate
H.R. 660 includes very broad preemption language that appears to authorize an insured
AHPO to sell insurance coverage nationwide and disregard the laws of 49 states once its policy is approved in one state. Thus once an AHP has an approved filing in Michigan, it could sell insurance coverage to New Yorkers. But who would protect the interests of New York policyholders? The New York state insurance commissioner will not know which consumer protection laws are or are not included in Michigan statute. And even if the New York commissioner was an expert regarding Michigan law, it is unlikely he would be authorized to enforce such protections. The enforcement authority of insurance commissioners is generally limited to the enforcement of their state's laws--not the laws of other states. Conversely, it is unlikely the Michigan insurance commissioner is authorized to take action against an insurer for behavior against a resident of another state. His role is to protect the interests of his residents.
Thus, the insured AHP would exist in a regulatory vacuum. State insurance commissioners' hands would be tied by the Federal preemption provisions, and the Department of Labor's oversight authority is quite limited with regard to insured AHPs--the focus being on the initial certification of meeting the Board and other requirements to be considered a ``bona fide'' association. This regulatory vacuum will allow fraudulent and sham operations to flourish. Premium dollars will have disappeared into personal off-shore bank accounts before any action by regulators can be taken, leaving consumers uninsured and providers with large unpaid medical bills.
Solvency Standards are Inadequate
The National Association of Insurance commissioners, the American Academy of Actuaries and others have all criticized H.R. 660 for inadequate solvency standards. H.R. 660 allows AHPs to maintain as little as $500,000 in surplus and caps even the largest AHPs at a $2,000,000 requirement--an amount equivalent to just two premature million dollar babies in a neo-natal intensive care unit. This is contrary to typical state solvency regimes which use open-ended rules, recognizing that the larger an AHP grows the larger a capital base is necessary. The American Academy of Actuaries notes:
The proposed rules governing the minimum surplus
requirements for AHPs do not account for the growth of the
AHP. Historically, there have been many examples of AHP-like
organizations becoming insolvent. Following such events, most
states enacted solvency standards. To maintain the benefit of
these standards to consumers, the surplus standards should be
similar to the minimum requirements for Heath Risk-Based
Capital (RBC) developed by the National Association of
Insurance Commissioners (NAIC). Also the bills at issue rely
on affordable reinsurance vehicles that do not currently
exist in today's marketplace.
Former Resolution Trust Chairman Bill Seidman warns that ``The Savings and Loan experience teaches us that a lack of adequate solvency standards or investment guidelines can quickly lead to financial failures.'' The NAIC also criticizes H.R. 660 as including ``woefully inadequate capital reserve requirements'' and further cautions:
The most troubling aspect of the NFIB plan is it lacks
sufficient oversight to ensure that financial struggles do
not result in failures. Under the NFIB legislation, the AHP
would work with an actuary chosen by the company to set
reserve levels with little or no government oversight to
ensure the levels are sufficient or maintained. Also, that
AHP is required to ``self-report'' any financial problems. As
we have seen in recent months, relying on a company-picked
accountant or actuary to alert the government of any problems
can have dire consequences for the consumers who expect to
have protection under their health plan.
The combination of a regulatory vacuum for insured AHPs, an understaffed and inexperienced DOL and inadequate solvency standards lay the seeds for a large crop of devastating AHP failures and frauds across the country that injures thousands of consumers. Organizations with vast experience in health care fraud--such as the National Association of Attorneys General--recognize that opposition to H.R. 660 is imperative because ``State oversight and regulation is the best way to insure that plans remain solvent and that consumers are protected against fraud.
(III) More Uninsured, Particularly Among the Most Vulnerable
A June 2003 Mercer study performed for National Small Business United indicates that an additional one million individuals would lose coverage and become uninsured if H.R. 660 became law. A 1999 Urban Institute study predicted the uninsured would increase by 250,000 if AHPs were exempt from state law and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) indicated that as many as 100,000 of the sickest individuals could lose coverage.
While these reports differ in nagnitude, they all predict that AHPs will worsen the uninsured problem, not solve it as proponents contend.
(IV) Consumers Stripped of Their State Protections
States have enacted a broad pantheon of state consumer protections in the last decade. A sampling of these protections include:
44 states ensure access to independent review;
48 states limit how much insurers can charge sicker groups;
50 states impose detailed requirements to assure fair marketing;
50 states require mammography screening coverage; and
47 states require diabetic supplies and education.
Self-funded AHPs would be exempt from state consumer protection laws under H.R. 660. Insured AHPs could forum shop for the state with the least consumer protection laws and only use those limited protections when selling in the remaining 49 states. The Committee accepted an amendment by Rep. Van Hollen (D-MD) that would apply state prompt payment laws to insured AHPs. This amendment did not apply any other state consumer protection laws to insured AHPs, nor did it apply state prompt payment laws to self-funded AHPs. With one stroke, passage of H.R. 660 would eliminate thousands of state consumer protections across the country.
(V) No Administrative Cost Savings
Numerous research reports have reviewed Association Health Plans and all found that lower premiums offered by AHPs would stem from ``cherry- picking''--because the AHP limits its coverage to the healthiest small employers--and the avoidance of state mandated benefits. The 2003 Small Business Administration Study found:
From an objective standpoint, AHPs are likely to lead to
moderately lower insurance premiums from a combination of
lower direct and indirect taxes, avoiding anti-selection and
other cross subsidies, avoiding some mandated benefits and
avoiding the cost to comply with multiple state regulations.
The Congressional Budget Office assumed no administrative savings from AHPs and predicted that nearly two-thirds of any cost savings from AHPs would result from attracting healthier members from the existing insurance pool, with virtually all of the remaining savings stemming from reduced benefits.
A June 2003 Mercer study estimates that AHPs would gain a pricing advantage through risk selection, not greater administrative efficiency. The modeling estimates that the average morbidity (a measure of whether a firm is ``sick'' or ``healthy'') of firms enrolling in AHPs would be 21 percent lower than the average morbidity of small employers in the market today.
These reports found no administrative savings for AHPs because AHPs would need to perform the same functions as insurers today--enrollment, billing, claims administration. Providing health insurance to small firms is resource intensive because the insurer is often providing the types of services that a large employer receives internally from a dedicated employee benefits department. Research report after research report indicates that AHPs cannot avoid those costly functions and that their prime avenue for costs savings is ``cherry picking'' and benefit reduction.
Conclusion
Exemptions from state law for Association Health Plans have been tried and failed before. Far from being a solution to the plight of the small employer, H.R. 660 would exacerbate the cost and stability problems in the small employer market. Consumers will find themselves uninsured just when they need coverage the most--when they fall ill. And providers will be left with millions in unpaid medical bills. Furthermore, H.R. 660 will undo the small group reforms woven together by states over the last decade to respond to the damage and pain that rampant cherry picking imposed on the small employer community in the late 80's.
Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman from New Jersey for yielding me this time and also commend him for his leadership and the energy he has shown on this subject, as well as the ranking member, the…
Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman from New Jersey for yielding me this time and also commend him for his leadership and the energy he has shown on this subject, as well as the ranking member, the gentleman from California (Mr. George Miller).
Madam Speaker, there is a serious problem throughout America in regards to the rising cost of health insurance, double-digit premium increases. As I travel around my congressional district in western Wisconsin visiting businesses large and small alike, it is the number one topic on their lips, the difficulty of being able to provide health insurance coverage for their employees with the double-digit increases that they are facing today.
Part of the problem in western Wisconsin deals with the inadequacy of Medicare reimbursement rates, which then is cost-shifted on to the private plans; but also part of the problem is the number of uninsured and the cost shifting that occurs when they receive treatment. We saw the statistics a little earlier, 41 million uninsured. Those numbers are going up. Between 50 and 60 percent of the uninsured are employees working in small businesses. It is a crisis situation out there, and I have not met a small business owner yet that is happy with the fact when they cannot provide some basic health coverage for their employees. Unless we deal with it in an honest and, I think, straightforward plan, the numbers will only get worse.
There are some here today that think H.R. 660 is the answer to the crisis we are all experiencing in our own districts. I happen to disagree. I think there are some serious flaws with H.R. 660. I believe that, at best, the underlying legislation would do very little to address the plight of the uninsured. There is a recent CBO analysis that said that, at best, we might be able to extend additional coverage for half a million Americans, a far cry from the 41 million who are currently uninsured or the 25 million who are working right now in small businesses. At worst, there is a Mercer report that shows that because of the premium increases in other health plans, we could see another million Americans losing their health insurance coverage because of H.R. 660.
What also is a major problem is that it exempts State laws. These are community value judgments made in each of our States in regards to what health care practices should be covered for the citizens. Yet the legislation today is calling for a preemption of that State law, an eradication of the federalism that has existed in this country for a very long period of time. It is one of the reasons why we have so many people opposing the legislation, from the National Governors' Association, from the Democratic Governors' Association and Republican Governors' Association, the State Attorneys General Association, not to mention the Association of Insurance Plans, as well as the National Conference of State Legislatures.
Why would you, if you believe in the free market, as I think most of us do, and believe in price competition, try to set up an uneven system where you have two different sets of plans playing by two different sets of rules? It does not make sense. If you are going to force price competition in the free market system, you need to have everyone playing on a level playing field playing by the same set of rules, such as the State laws that exist right now, rather than exempting a whole category of people.
I think our substitute offers a better alternative, and I would encourage our colleagues to support that.
Madam Speaker, I offer an amendment in the nature of a substitute.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Madam Speaker, we have had I think a very enlightening discussion so far today in regards to the real impact of these associated health plans, what they are potentially capable of doing and what the danger of them are. As the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews) has been citing repeatedly, there is an objective study there indicating the potential impact if this legislation enacted of increasing the ranks of the uninsured throughout the country by an additional million people. That is heading in the wrong direction considering we have 41 million uninsured today, many of them, between 50 and 60 percent of that 41 million, working in small businesses throughout our Nation.
We have a serious issue that requires a serious response and a serious plan to provide some real relief for small business employers to their employees. These are people who wake up every morning. They go to work. They play by the rules. They are asking for basic health care coverage like their neighbors next to them.
Unfortunately, H.R. 660 pulls up a little bit short in a couple of respects. First of all, it creates a current two-tiered system exempting the health care plans from currently State-regulated requirements. These are decisions made by State legislatures reflecting community values in regards to what type of health care coverage is important for their citizens, for their communities, for the society at large. And what is being proposed now is exempting a whole category of health insurance plans from basic health coverage such as cancer screening, mammographies, prenatal care, maternity care, diabetes, autism coverage in some States, and for those whoever worked with autistic children understand the importance of treating autism is early recognition, early intervention, and a lot of times that will not occur unless there are health plans that provide such coverage, and if we do not intervene early in these children's lives, there are exponentially greater costs for society at large down the road.
We offer a substitute, which I believe addresses the challenge that we are facing as a Nation more honestly and more fairly. The Democratic alternative that I have worked on with the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews) and others on the committee would provide direct assistance to small businesses and their employees, another shortcoming of H.R. 660. There is no incentive, there is no help financially to enable employers to provide this type of coverage for their employees. And everyone I know is familiar with the small business employer that is operating on the margin, oftentimes losing money rather than making money.
And if there is not some type of financial incentive that our substitute bill offers it is unlikely that they are going to be able to extend their health insurance coverage to their employees who currently do not have them.
What our substitute would do is it would direct the Department of Labor to establish a small employer health benefit plan similar to the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan. Many of the Members of Congress here today are members of the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan. I have not encountered too much criticism of the health plan that Members of Congress are receiving. I think small business owners and their employees should be given the same opportunity on an affordable basis. The program would contract with State license insurers to offer a minimum insurance package for all employees of businesses of fewer than 100 people. Small businesses would be eligible for a premium assistance under our plan as would employees earning below 200 percent of the poverty level.
This alternative has the potential of providing health insurance coverage to 33 million Americans who currently go without it today. The number stands in stark contrast to the estimated 550,000 that the Congressional Budget Office has calculated under H.R. 660.
Perhaps most importantly, our plan is paid for under the budget resolution that the majority party has passed earlier this year. It fits within the budget confines by providing these premium assistance to small business employers, and to those employees at 200 percent less of poverty, providing financial assistance and the financial means to actually access health plans and provide coverage for their employees. H.R. 660 does not provide any of those means.
What we may see under their budget resolution coming back at us shortly is some form of tax credit or some type of tax deduction, which is not going to help the numerous employees and small businesses operating at 200 percent or less poverty level, who are paying very little Federal income taxes in order to qualify for such credits, unless they are willing to extend that coverage to those employees. But wait a minute. We are right now engaged in a heated debate over a child tax credit on these very same principles; so it is doubtful that they are going to be able to provide that type of tax relief to employees who need it and cannot afford health plans generally.
I mean there is a reason why the National Governors Association, Republican and Democratic governors alike, are in opposition, why the State Attorney Generals Association is opposing, why the State legislatures throughout the country are opposing, why many consumer interest groups and health care providers are opposing H.R. 660, because they fear that the ultimate income will be expanding the ranks of
the uninsured rather than reducing that number.
I think we all have the best intentions in the plans that we are advocating here today to try to reverse course on the 41 million, to try to provide small businesses with an opportunity of providing some health care coverage for their employees, but we believe there is a right and there is a wrong way of doing it. We believe that the Democratic substitute being offered which does not preempt State law, which does provide some financial assistance, premium assistance for small employers, which is paid for under the budget resolution is the way to go if we are truly interested in reducing the number of the uninsured in this country, and thereby affecting the premiums that other health plans have to pay.
Because if the uninsured get sick or get hurt, they still go in, they still access, they still get care, but those costs are then shifted on to those plans that pay for it. Our plan would reduce the number of uninsured and thereby save costs and help reduce the premium increases that so many of our employers, large and small, are experiencing today. And with that, I encourage my colleagues to support the substitute. Vote no on the H.R. 660.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, this is modeled after the Federal employee health plan.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentlewoman from California (Ms. Woolsey), a very knowledgeable member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, let me quickly dispel a couple of myths. We have heard a couple of occasions new mandates are going to add costs to the employers.
First of all, there are no new mandates under the substitute. We merely respect State law. We do not require compliance. It is a voluntary program. If small business employers do not think it is a good financial deal for them, they do not have to join. There is nothing mandating their requirement.
We have also heard the word ``taxes'' being used, too. Let me reiterate, this is paid for in their own budget resolution. So there is no new taxes that we are talking about with respect to this substitute.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews), the coauthor of this alternative bill.
(Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I shudder to think we may be making major policy based on a few phone calls here today.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews).
Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, with all due respect to the gentleman from Illinois, my good friend, that is why our substitute is much better. We have one comprehensive pool that small businesses can buy into if they choose, therefore leveraging their bargaining power.
Mr. Speaker, one of the strengths of the labor union is they are there representing the workers. They leverage the number of workers there, and they are representing their interests, and they oftentimes reduce wages in order to get a better health care plan.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as she may consume for the purposes of a colloquy to the gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum), a former State legislator and a colleague on the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
Mr. Speaker, would the gentlewoman yield?
Mr. Speaker, it would be, because we respect existing State law.
Again, it is not mandated unless the State offers that right now.
That would be covered.
That would also be covered under our substitute.
That is right.
Yes, it would.
It would, indeed.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentlewoman yield?
One other significant difference between our substitute and H.R. 660 is ours would have a uniform premium rate for all employees. Employees could not be discriminated against with higher premium rates because they happen to be sicker than their fellow employees in the workforce. Ours would establish a uniform insurance premium rate for them so there would not be that type of price discrimination against the sicker in our population.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, again, we state that our substitute is fully paid for under the budget resolution, so we are not asking for new money. And with due respect to my friend from Georgia, we would hope a lot of employers would continue to offer the basic health care coverage that exists today. But the reason there were so many State battles throughout the country in State legislatures is because many of them were not. That is why these hard-fought battles need to be respected, and our substitute does.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from the Virgin Islands (Mrs. Christensen).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. McCarthy), a distinguished member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hinojosa), a distinguished member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
(Mr. HINOJOSA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, this is a very important debate that we are having today. Just to correct one of the things just stated by the previous speaker, the Department of Labor, just like H.R. 660, would be in charge of administering the substitute plan that we have before us today. They would actually contract with state-licensed insurers to offer basic insurance plans.
The significant difference, though, is that we are asking everyone to play on a level playing field, to respect States' rights, and to not have Federal preemption. Because for those who believe in the free market system, which I think most of us do, it can only work if everyone is playing by the same rules instead of trying to establish a two-tier system. And that, I believe, is going to be the best hope we have, through price competition, of keeping a check on rising premium costs.
There has been a lot of citing of statistics throughout the afternoon, a lot from the Congressional Budget Office, and so I will provide for the Record a letter from the Congressional Budget Office stating their analysis of H.R. 660.
Mr. Speaker, I would encourage our colleagues, in conclusion, to support the substitute, one that does provide an opportunity for more small employers to provide health care coverage to their employees, one that respects State law, one that provides some premium assistance so they can afford it. I encourage support of the substitute and a ``no'' vote on H.R. 660.
Mr. Speaker, the letter referred to above is as follows:
U.S. Congress,
Congressional Budget Office,
Washington, DC, June 18, 2003.
Hon. George Miller,
Senior Democratic Member, Committee on Education and the
Workforce, House of Representatives, Washington, DC.
Dear Congressman: This letter responds to your request of
June 17, 2003, for additional information on CBO's estimate
of the impact of H.R. 660 on enrollment in the health
insurance markets for small employers and self-employed
workers. We expect that the effects of the bill would be
fully reflected in those markets by 2008, and all of the
following numbers refer to that year.
Under current law, CBO estimates that approximately 30.1
million people will be enrolled in health insurance offered
by plans in the state-regulated small group insurance
market. Under the bill, CBO estimates that combined
enrollment in state-regulated plans and association health
plans (AHPs) would rise by about 550,000 people to a total of
30.7 million people. Of this, approximately 23.2 million
people would retain coverage in the state-regulated market.
About 7.5 million people would be enrolled in AHPs, including
the additional 550,000 people who would not have been covered
by any small-employer plan under current law, and 6.9 million
people who would have been covered in the state-regulated
market.
The same consideration apply to self-employed people. We
estimate that approximately 4.7 million people will be
enrolled in state-regulated coverage purchased by self-
employed workers under current law. Under H.R. 660, CBO
estimates that combined enrollment through state-regulated
insurers and AHPs would rise by about 70,000 people to 4.8
million people. Of this, approximately 3.8 million people
would retain state-regulated coverage. About 1.0 million
people would obtain coverage through AHPs, including the
additional 70,000 people who would not have been insured
under current law, and 0.9 million people who would have been
covered in the state-regulated market.
If you would like additional information on this estimate,
the CBO staff contact is Stuart Hagen, who can be reached at
225-2644.
Sincerely,
Douglas Holtz-Eakin,
Director.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 283 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 283 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
(Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 283 is a rule that provides for the consideration of H.R. 660, the Small Business Health Fairness Act of 2003. The resolution makes in order a minority party substitute that provides ample opportunity to discuss this important legislation before us, while addressing certainly the concerns of our colleagues on the other side of the aisle.
The rule provides 1 hour of general debate, evenly divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
This is a bipartisan bill. In fact, the legislation has 162 cosponsors on a bipartisan basis, and many, many groups that are interested in this issue are supporting this legislation.
H.R. 660 was introduced by the gentleman from Kentucky (Mr. Fletcher). It has the strong support of the Speaker, of the Committee on Small Business chairman, the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Manzullo), and the Subcommittee on Employer-Employee Relations chairman, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Sam Johnson).
Association Health Plans, or AHPs, allow access to needed health insurance for many who do not have health insurance. The House, I believe, Mr. Speaker, must act now to pass this long overdue legislation.
Really, the Nation is at a crossroads. We currently have over 40 million Americans without health insurance, approximately 60 percent of whom work or depend on small employers who often cannot afford these very important and needed benefits. This bill will help small business, in turn, help working families.
Mr. Speaker, H.R. 660 will allow for small businesses across the country to band together through established and respected trade or professional organizations to lower health care costs. This same model already works for large companies. We believe that small businesses should also be allowed to benefit from it.
Estimates predict that anywhere from 350,000 to 8 million uninsured workers will receive health care benefits through these AHPs even at the lowest projection, and that means positive progress for many currently uninsured men and women.
Now, we may hear all sorts of arguments concerning, for example, state-by-state regulations. We have already, however, seen many large companies provide health insurance because they
are allowed these procedures. These same benefits will now be obtainable through collective bargaining by the AHPs while, at the same time, reducing burdensome administration fees, precisely by having to comply with only one set of Federal regulations and not 50 individual sets of State regulations.
This bill also ensures that AHPs adhere to the important regulations in the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996, meaning that coverage cannot be denied based on health or claims experience.
I am very pleased that the Committee on Rules did a fine job in providing a full and fair process of debate through, among other things, permitting a Democrat substitute that addresses many of the points brought out through testimony in the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, H.R. 660 is a good bill and House Resolution 283 is a fair rule. It is very important to the over 40 million uninsured Americans and the vitality of small business in the United States. Through this legislation, the House of Representatives continues its work to relieve many of the existing burdens on American families.
I would like to thank the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Boehner) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Sam Johnson) for their leadership on this issue, and I urge my colleagues to support this rule and the underlying legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the legislation that we are bringing to the floor today, what it does is that it gives small businesses the ability to come together and have
the purchasing power and the leverage, if you will, that currently only large corporations have with the concept, with the goal of bringing down health care costs and offering products, offering health insurance, to those workers who work the overwhelming majority of workers in the United States who work for small businesses. That is what we are trying to do.
I heard my friend on the other side of the aisle say that they have other ideas. Well, we granted the Democrats the ability to bring forth to the floor today their substitute, and so let the debate begin. And if the membership believes that concerns are better addressed in their substitute, the membership may be swayed to support the substitute. We happen to believe our legislation is better. But that is why we will have this debate. So we granted the substitute. And we strongly believe that small businesses should have that ability to come together across State lines and acquire much more leverage and much more purchasing power when they are trying to provide health insurance for their workers. That is what we are trying to do today.
So we hear all sorts of things because we live in a wonderful democracy and everything can be brought out under the sun. But that is what we are trying to do. We are trying to lower health care costs. We are trying to provide health insurance to more people in this country by permitting small businesses to come together. That is what we are trying to do today. Democrats say they have a better idea. That is why we granted their substitute. We do not happen to believe they have a better idea, but we allowed the debate.
After hearing all sorts of confusing things, I wanted to, in case somebody is listening to the debate, get back to what we are actually trying to do, Mr. Speaker.
We think it is a fair rule. We think it is fair in this case to provide the opportunity to debate by making in order the minority party's substitute and we think we have a good product. A lot of Members have worked hard on this product. So we want to get to the debate and we would urge support for the rule by the membership.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, the underlying legislation that we are bringing to the floor today is very important, as I stated before. We believe in small business. We believe in the fact that the overwhelming majority of workers in this country work in small businesses, and we want to incentivate those small businesses in providing health care, health insurance to their workers.
I think it is important to reduce the over 40 million number of workers in this country who do not have insurance. We think we are going to do so in a significant way with this legislation.
With regards to some of the allegations my friend from Texas, the previous speaker, said with regard to the low income tax credit, we passed that last week and we really do not believe, her words were, ``a white whale'' we passed. We do not think it is a white whale to pass the legislation that we passed. We do not think it is a white whale to include, as we did, tax breaks for military families. We do not think it is a whale to include tax breaks, as we did, for victims of the Shuttle crash tragedy. We do not think it is a whale to extend, as we did last week, in precisely the low income tax credit legislation, the child tax credit until the year 2010. We do not believe that is a whale. We believe it is important legislation.
But back to the point of what we are doing this week, because that we did last week, despite the fact that our
friends on the other side of the aisle voted against it, but it is a free country. What we are doing this week is bringing forth with this rule, that permits the Democratic substitute, legislation that will permit small businesses to come together and pool their resources and increase their leverage so that they can provide, so that they can provide to the millions of workers who work for small businesses and do not have health insurance, health insurance at better rates and with better terms. That is what we are doing.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I think it is important to point out, because my dear friend who just spoke stated that the President of the United States opposed, that is what the gentleman said, the legislation that we here in the House passed last week to provide precisely the low-income child tax credit and, in addition to that, provide tax breaks for military families and for families of the shuttle crash tragedy and extending the child tax credit through the year 2010.
The President supports the legislation. In fact, I am handed here the statement officially put out by the administration in support of the legislation that the House passed. This official statement of administration policy is dated June 12. So I wanted to make that clear on the record.
We are very proud of what we did last week, and we hope and certainly would encourage those who are now resolving any differences that may exist with our friends in the other body that they get that legislation to the floor of both bodies as soon as possible. That is what we did last week.
What we are doing this week is we are providing incentives for small businesses to provide health insurance to the millions of Americans who work for small businesses in this country and do not have health insurance. We think there are few issues as important as that issue. That is why we want to bring that legislation to the floor as soon as possible, and that is why we have brought a fair rule to the floor to be able to do so, a rule that makes in order the Democratic substitute and makes in order, in addition to that, a Democratic motion to recommit.
So we have been doubly fair in this rule and are very proud of the underlying legislation, the work product of Members that have worked long and hard to reduce the number, those millions of Americans who do not have health insurance and who work for small businesses. We want small businesses to have the same leverage, to have the same opportunities to pool their resources, to come together and do so like large corporations can do so today. That is why we feel so strongly about this legislation and are in support of it, and that is why we have brought it forward under a fair rule.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
First of all, I would tell my dear friend the legislation that we passed last week, number one, is not a whale; and, number two, it is not languishing. And I am informed, I know I am not supposed to mention the other body, but I would wonder how I could get this fact across without doing so, the conference has begun. The conference has begun this morning. Or they have agreed to go to conference. Today there has been the agreement to go to conference precisely on the legislation that is not a whale. And, thus, the whale that is not is not languishing.
I yield to the gentlewoman from Texas.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, again I do not know the answer to that, but I would say the following:
I would say to my good friend that, number one, I cannot get into the brain of all the conferees. I think we have to allow them to meet so that there will be a meeting of the minds, number one. But we certainly do not think that it is a whale to increase the child tax credit of $1,000 per child through the year 2010. We do not think that is a whale. We do not think it is a whale to eliminate the marriage penalty in the child credit. We do not think it is a whale to accelerate the increase in the refundable child credit. We do not think it is a whale to provide tax relief and enhance tax fairness for members of the Armed Forces. We do not think it is a whale to suspend the tax exempt status of designated terrorist organizations or to provide tax relief for astronauts' families, those who died on the space mission. So we think it is very important what the House did last week.
Now, another statement was made before by one of our friends on the other side of the aisle that the President does not support the measure that the House passed last week. Oh, no, no, no. The President is fully in support of the measure that the House passed last week. So the legislation that we passed last week we are extremely proud of and the President supports it.
But we are also very proud of and we are also strongly in support of what we are trying to do this week, Mr. Speaker. Because we believe that it should not only be the large corporations that have the ability to use their great leverage of numbers to offer health insurance to their workers with the best possible terms. We think small business, which is the backbone of the American economy, and hires the majority, employs the majority of the workers in this country, that small business also should have the opportunity to pool their numbers to acquire leverage in negotiating terms with those insurance companies and bring down the rates and offer the best possible terms to the millions of workers precisely because they work for the backbone of the American economy, small business. That is what we are doing this week.
So, no, what we did last week is not a whale. What we did last week is something we are very proud of, and we have the support of the President of the United States. But what we are doing this week is also very important, Mr. Speaker, and that is why, with all due respect, I tell my friends on the other side of the aisle that we have brought this important piece of legislation to the floor today with a rule that is fair, a rule that provides the minority party a substitute, the opportunity to bring forth any concerns they may have in the form of a substitute; and, in addition, to be doubly fair, we grant our friends on the other side of the aisle the opportunity to present a motion to recommit with any further and additional concerns they may have.
So we are very fair this morning, Mr. Speaker. We are very proud of the legislation that we are bringing to the floor.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, precisely because we are concerned about and care about the majority of the workers of this country who happen to work for small businesses, that we want to create the possibility that they will be able to have health insurance just like those who work for large corporations have health insurance, so precisely to mention some of the people who were mentioned by my friend, the previous speaker, yes, we think if someone is a janitor or a maid or work in a restaurant or drive a truck or deliver packages, you should also have health insurance, and your employer should be able to pool its resources to acquire the leverage and the purchasing power that large corporations have when they get into the room to negotiate terms and conditions with the insurance companies. That is what we are trying to do today.
I am very pleased that this debate has given us the opportunity to point out to our colleagues and to the American people what precisely the hard-working Members who have brought forth this work product, this legislation today, are allowing the Congress to do for the American people. And that is the majority of workers in this country who work for small businesses should also have the right to have health insurance, should also have the right to have their employer have the purchasing power and the leverage and negotiating terms and conditions for health insurance for the workers of America that the large companies have.
So that is the essence of what we are doing this week with regard to what we did last week, which was to provide the low-income child tax credit and to also provide an increase in the child credit through the year 2010 and eliminate the marriage penalty in the child credit and accelerate the increase in the refundable child credit, provide tax relief and enhanced tax fairness for members of the Armed Forces, suspend the tax-exempt status of terrorist organizations, provide tax relief for the families of astronauts who die on space missions. We think it is important to do that, and that is what we did last week.
They have agreed to go to conference today on that important piece of legislation, but let us not focus on one important piece of legislation to the detriment of another important piece of legislation, which is the one we are bringing forth today, and that is let us allow small business to have the leverage, have the purchasing power to face health insurance like large companies can. That is what we are doing today. We are proud of it, and we want to get to a debate under a fair rule which provides the Democrats a substitute and a motion to recommit. That is what we are doing today.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, we say vote yes. We say vote yes to allowing small businesses to have the leverage and purchasing power that large businesses have, to increase significantly the number of American workers, the majority of whom work for small businesses, who can have health insurance. We think the issue is that important that we should vote yes. Vote yes on the previous question, vote yes on the rule, and let us get to the underlying legislation, legislation which is as important as the legislation we passed last week.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 227: H. Res. 159. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.'' Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable vote on…
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 227: H. Res. 159. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable vote on rollcall No. 228: H. Res. 195. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 229: H.R. 1465. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 230: S. 222. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 231: S. 273. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 232: S. 763. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 233: H. Amdt. to H. J. Res. 4. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 234: Final passage of H. J. Res. 4. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 235: Motion to suspend the rules and pass H. Res. 231. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 236: on agreeing to H. Res. 257. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 237: Motion to suspend the rules and pass H. Res. 177. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 238: Motion to suspend the rules and pass H. Res. 201. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 239: H.R. 1954. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 240: H. Amdt. 154 to H.R. 760. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 241: Motion to Recommit to H.R. 760. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 242: final passage of H.R. 760. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 243: On Ordering the Previous Question for H. Res. 256. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 244: H. Res. 258. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 245: H. Res. 258. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 246: on passage of H.R. 1474. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 247: S. 222. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 248: S. 273. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 249: H.R. 1610. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 250: H. Con Res. 162. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 251: S. 763. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 252: H. Res. 263 to H.R. 2143. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 253: H. Res. 263 to H.R. 2143. Had I been present, I would have voted ``No.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 254: H. Amdt. 159 to H.R. 2143. Had I been present, I would have voted ``No.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 255: Passage of H.R 2143. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 256: H. Res. 252: Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 257: On ordering the previous question for H.R. 2115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 258: On agreeing to the rule for H.R. 2115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 259: On passage of H. Con. Res. 110. Had I been present I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 260: On passage of H.R. 1320. Had I been present I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 261: H.R. 2350. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 262: H. Amdt. 5 to H.R. 2115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 263: H. Amdt. 4 to H.R. 2115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 264: On passage of H.R. 2115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 265: H. Res. 269 to H.R. 1115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 266: H. Res. 269 to H.R. 1115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 268: H. Amdt.
168 to H.R. 1115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 269: H. Amdt. 169 to H.R. 1115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 270: H. Amdt. 170 to H.R. 1115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 271: Motion to Recommit to H.R. 1115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 272: Passage of H.R. 1115. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 273: H. Res. 270 to H.R 1308. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 274: Rule for H.R. 1308. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 275: Motion to Instruct Conferees H.R. 1308. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 276: H.R. 2254. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 277: H. Con. Res. 220. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 278: S. 703. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 279: H. Res. 276. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 280: H. Res. 171. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 281: Passage of H.R. 658. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 282: S. 342. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 283: Passage of S. Con. Res. 43. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 284: Previous Question to H. Res. 281. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on rollcall No. 285: H. Res. 281 to H.R 8. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 286: Approving the Journal. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 287: H. Amdt. 171 to H.R. 8. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 288: Passage of H.R. 8. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 289: H. Res. 283 to H.R. 660. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 290: H. Res. 283 to H.R. 660. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 291: H. Amdt. 172 to H.R. 1528. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 292: Motion to Recommit H.R. 1528. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 293: Passage of H.R. 1528. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 294: Kind amendment to H.R. 660. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 295: On motion to recommit with instructions to H.R. 660. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 296: On final passage to H.R. 660. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 297: H. Res. 264. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 298: H. Res. 177. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 299: H. Con. Res. 209. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 300: Passage of H.R. 2465. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 301: Previous Question to H. Res. 293. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 302: Agreeing to H. Res. 293. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 303: Passage of H.R. 923. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 304: H.R. 1460. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 305: On sustaining the ruling of the chair on H.R. 2555. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 306: Sustain ruling of the chair on H.R. 2555. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 307: H. Amdt. 176 to H.R. 2555. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 308: H. Amdt. 183 to H.R. 2555. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 309: H. Amdt. 188 to H.R. 2555. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 310: Passage of H.R. 2555. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 311: Passage to H.R. 1416. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 312: S. 858. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 313: H.R. 2474. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 314: H. J. Res. 49. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 315: H. Con. Res. 49. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 316: H. Res. 199. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 317: H. Res. 294. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 318: On the Hastings amendment to H.R. 2417. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 319: On the Kucinich amendment to H.R. 2417. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 320: On the Lee amendment to H.R. 2417. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 321: H. Res. 299 to H.R. 1 and H.R. 2596. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 322: H. Res. 299 to H.R. 1 and H.R. 2596. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 323: H. Res. 297 to H.R. 1 and H.R. 2596. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 324: Ordering the previous question on H. Res. 298. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 325: Passage of H.R. 2559. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 326: Passage of H. Res. 277. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 327: On approval of the Journal. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 328: H.R. 2596. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 330: H. Amdt.
197 to H.R. 1. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 331: Motion to recommit with instructions to H.R. 1. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 332: Final passage of H.R. 1. Had I been present, I would have voted ``no''.
Mr. Speaker, due to family reasons, I was unable to vote on Rollcall No. 333: On passage of H.R. 2417. Had I been present, I would have voted ``yes.''
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Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Madam Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this bill. The…
Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Madam Speaker, I rise in strong opposition to this bill.
The chairman of the committee is precisely right, that the problem of massive amounts of people not having health insurance is the central problem in health care. Most of the 41 million
Americans who have no health care who are adults work for a living. And most of those adults who work for a living work for a small business, so there is an intuitive appeal to an argument that says let us help make it easier for small businesses to acquire health insurance.
In fact, the substitute that the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) and I will be offering later in this debate does that, and we would urge our colleagues to support that.
The reality, though, is that small businesses who do not provide health care for their employees do not do so because the gap between what they can afford to pay and what they have must pay is huge. It is immense. Even the most optimistic proponents of this bill admit that the premium savings that could be generated by this bill will slender indeed, usually in the single digits of percentage points, if that.
The reality is small businesses are not going to be able to afford to expand health care without significant public subsidies. That is a fact. The majority has drained well in excess of $2 trillion from the public Treasury with its insatiable appetite for tax cuts, and as a result, there is no money in the till. There is no money to provide those necessary subsidies. So this is the fig leaf. This is the shallow argument that says we can do something to help those small businesses.
Frankly, this bill belongs in the Orwellian hall of fame for misnomers of a piece of legislation. It is called the Small Business Health Care Fairness Act. With respect to small businesses, it provides nothing in subsidies for employers who cannot afford health insurance, not a dime. It provides for market reforms that offer an illusory and ultimately empty promise of lower premiums.
It is not a health care bill because what it does is supplant benefits that have been provided by State legislatures across this country by Republicans and Democrats, benefits that guarantee women breast cancer care, benefits that guarantee people with diabetes care for their illness, benefits that guarantee pregnant women and small children important care, benefits that protect consumers when they have been wronged by their HMO. Because this bill invalidates and wipes out those protections, the National Governors Association, Republicans and Democrats, oppose this bill. Because this bill invalidates those protections, the Attorneys General of a huge majority of the States oppose this bill. Because the bill eliminates protections for mammograms, for diabetes care, for well baby care, wipes them out, the insurance commissioners across this country oppose the bill.
It is not a health care bill. It is a political bill designed to paper over the fact that the majority already spent the money it needs to provide real relief.
Finally, it is called fairness. Where is the fairness in creating two sets of rules for those who attempt to buy health insurance for their employees? Because that is what this bill does. It sets up one set of rules where all the protections and regulations and safeguards that most people enjoy are wiped off the books for AHPs, and then another set of rules where the remaining insurance companies must compete on an unlevel playing field. Many of us who support the substitute believe in market competition, but we believe in market competition on a level playing field. That is not what this bill does.
One of the of the most respected health care analysis firms in this country, Madam Speaker, Certified Public Accountants and Associates, looked at this bill and that firm concluded that the chairman would have to change one of his charts because he started with a chart that says there are 41 million uninsured. If this bill is enacted, the chairman will have to change his chart and X out the 41 and put 42 uninsured, because that firm has concluded that the net effect of this bill will be to drive up the premiums for insurance companies who are not AHPs, drive them up so high that it will result in the loss of coverage for one million more Americans.
This bill is an illusion. It should be defeated. Later in this debate, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) and I will be presenting a substitute which we believe truly addresses the real needs of small businesses in America's uninsured.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself 15 seconds.
Madam Speaker, I think it is important to point out for the record that the gentleman did admit that the benefit protections like mammogram screenings are, in fact, wiped out by the bill before us.
The bill before us will take away health coverage for more than 1 million people and add to the uninsured.
Madam Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind), who has offered a plan that will actually decrease the number of uninsured, which we will talk about later.
Madam Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from California (Mr. George Miller), the leader of our committee and one of the leading opponents of this plan that would take health care coverage away from 1 million people.
Madam Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from North Dakota (Mr. Pomeroy) who, as a former insurance commissioner from North Dakota, has direct experience with AHPs running out of money and not paying their claims.
Madam Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. McCarthy).
Madam Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds. The gentleman is correct. At the end of the day, the question is whether one has health insurance or not. At the end of the day if this bill is enacted, 1 million more people will not have health insurance than do today because of the damage that this bill does. That is one of the reasons why State legislators across this country oppose this bill. Our next colleague is someone who served in the Minnesota State legislature, who fought for laws that protect women against discrimination. She will point out that this law does not do that.
Madam Speaker, I am happy to yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum).
Madam Speaker, one of the Members who is opposed to expanding the ranks of the uninsured by 1 million people and, therefore, opposes this bill is the gentleman from New York (Mr. Meeks) to whom I yield 3 minutes.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself 30 seconds. I want to again reemphasize that the objective analysis of this bill, contrary to what we have heard repeatedly today, is that it will increase the number of uninsured persons. It will do so because those who are not in AHPs who must still comply with the mandated benefits and other consumer protection laws will experience an escalation in premiums which will cause a reduction in coverage. We believe the record is clear, that the passage of this bill will increase the number of uninsured persons by 1 million people.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, for all the reasons we have stated, we oppose the bill.
Madam Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) for all the leadership he has shown on this, all the hard work he has done, and his usual, thoughtful approach to this problem.
Understand the desirability of the substitute versus the underlying bill. It would be helpful to think of a person who runs a tool and die shop with a dozen employees, or a cafe with 15 or 20 employees. Under the majority's Republican underlying bill, the most optimistic people believe there would be about a 15 percent premium savings for that employer. I think that is unduly optimistic, but let us give them the benefit of the doubt.
In my State, it costs about $6,000 to provide a health care package for an individual, and about $12,000 for family coverage. That means for that individual plan, the price would drop from $6,000 down to about $5,100. For the owner of that tool and die shop or that cafe, even if that price drop would occur, it is not nearly enough to afford the premiums that would be involved.
The majority's bill provides zero to the owner of that tool and die shop or that cafe to help them buy those premiums.
The substitute goes to the majority's budget resolution, identifies, as the majority did, $50 billion over 5 years, without any increase in taxes or revenues, as the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) just said, and uses that $50 billion creatively and wisely to provide subsidies to what we estimate would be 5 million employers and 16 million employees.
The person running the tool and die shop or the cafe, even if you are right, and we think you are wrong, meaning the majority, even if that person enjoys a reduction in premiums from $6,000 down to $5,100, it is not enough to increase coverage.
The plain fact is this: people who are employing people at the bottom of the wage ladder in low-margin businesses are not going to be able to afford the price of health insurance unless there is a significant subsidy. That is a fact. It is a fact the majority would choose to ignore, because the majority has taken over $2 trillion from the public Treasury that could be used to address the problem of 41 million uninsured people and flushed that money away. This substitute is an appropriate way to close that gap.
I also again want to reiterate that we believe you do not have to make this false choice between people being covered, as our various States would have them covered, with mammogram protection, with diabetes care, with prenatal and well-baby care. You do not have to make the choice between providing those vital benefits and no coverage at all.
The Mercer study shows that the underlying bill from the majority will result in an increase of 1 million people to the ranks of the uninsured. Eight million people, the CBO now tells us, will move from regular protected plans into these new unprotected, at-risk AHPs. We will get the worst of both worlds: eight million people for whom there is no guaranteed coverage against breast cancer, against diabetes, against the other diseases and conditions people worry about, and an increase in the number of uninsured.
The plan that the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) has taken the lead on would do the opposite. It will address the real needs of the owner of that tool and die shop and the real needs of the owner of that cafe by providing him or her with a meaningful subsidy that would help purchase health insurance benefits for his or her employees. There is a 5 million person difference when it comes to employers, a 16 million person difference when it comes to employees, and all the difference in the world when it comes to the approach here.
The plan the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) has put forward will work. It will work within the contours of the majority's own budget resolution. It provides real help and real aid to those who need it, not the empty promise of the majority's bill.
I urge our colleagues on both sides of the aisle to support the Kind substitute.
Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, would the gentleman care to cite the source of that statistic?
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
I understand there are variations in plan costs around the country. I would once again say, however, that the most enthusiastic proponents of the AHP plan do not talk about a reduction of the magnitude that the chairman of the full committee just talked about; they talk, at best case, about a 15 or 16 percent premium reduction.
If you live in a market that has a $6,000-per-person premium, which I do, that is nowhere near a $2,700 reduction which the chairman's phone calls have uncovered.
I yield to the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, what premium benefit then would the chairman claim would result from this bill?
I yield to the chairman to tell us what premium benefit he predicts would result from the underlying bill.
Fifteen and 30 percent. That is a new number for us, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, would the gentlewoman yield?
Mr. Speaker, and it is also true, is it not, like I said to my colleague from Minnesota, that in the underlying bill that the majority offered, that each one of those State protections that the gentlewoman just outlined would be invalidated?
Mr. Speaker, if the gentlewoman would further yield, what the gentlewoman is saying is that if the insurance industry chooses to keep these protections, it may; but if it chooses not to, the person who is covered under the plan does not get any of the coverage the gentlewoman just spoke of; is that correct?
Mr. Speaker, if the underlying bill becomes law, 4 million American women who presently are guaranteed breast cancer care will only have it if the insurance companies they move to decide to let them have it. We can change that by voting ``yes'' on this motion to recommit. The question is simple: Do we want our mothers and our sisters and our daughters and our
wives to rely upon the whims of the insurance industry or the power of our votes? If you want to guarantee that this care goes forward, the only way to do it is to vote ``yes'' on the motion of the gentlewoman from New York. I urge a ``yes'' vote.
Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. FROST asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. Speaker, I support the idea behind the association health…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. FROST asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I support the idea behind the association health plans. Helping small businesses has been a priority of mine for a long while. At the same time, I strongly believe that we have a moral obligation to help every American get the health coverage they and their families need.
So I am glad that the Democrats on the Committee on Education and the Workforce, particularly the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) and the gentleman from new Jersey (Mr. Andrews), have written the Democratic substitute. It is a sensible and affordable plan to ensure health coverage for small businesses and their employees that is at least as good as Federal employees get. If you think small businesses deserve the same health coverage that Members of Congress get, then the Democratic plan is for you.
Unfortunately, Mr. Speaker, the Republican Party controls the House of Representatives. That gives them the power to block important priorities, and they have no problem using it.
For instance, they are still blocking tax relief for millions of military and working families. Six times Democrats have tried to give the child tax credit to these families because we believe that they deserve at least a fraction of the tax breaks that Republicans gave to millionaires last month. But six times, House Republicans have used their power to deny these families. Today, Mr. Speaker, the Republican leadership is using their power and this restrictive rule to undermine patient protections.
Now, perhaps Republicans will say that we should not be surprised. More than 90 percent of the rules in this Congress have been restricted, a shameful record of stifling democracy and blocking critical American priorities. But the rule on the floor today perfectly illustrates how the Republican majority has operated during this Congress.
In the Committee on Rules, Democrats offered 14 amendments on issues that are critical to the health of the people who might participate in these plans, but the Committee on Rules Republicans voted down all but one of them, the Democratic substitute.
Consider patients' rights, for example. Republicans have successfully blocked a national Patients' Bill of Rights for the past several years, and the base bill would undermine the patient protections that various States have passed, making it a kind of anti-Patients Bill of Rights.
So the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney) and the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Van Hollen) went to the Committee on Rules with an amendment to ensure that these new association health plans comply with State patient protections, like prohibitions on doctor gag rules and access to emergency rooms, OBGYNs, and specialists. But Republicans on the Committee on Rules defeated their amendment on a party-line vote.
Or take prostate cancer and breast cancer. The gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. McCarthy) tried to ensure that these new health plans cover screenings for these deadly diseases, but Republicans refused to allow the House to vote on her amendments.
The gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) and the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Kucinich) each tried to protect Americans with autism.
The gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum) tried to ensure maternity and well-child benefits continue to be covered in States that require this coverage.
And the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews) tried to protect small businesses and their employees from discrimination based on race, gender or age. Each of these is an important issue when you are creating a new system that could affect the health of millions and millions of Americans. But Republicans refuse to allow the House to even vote on their amendments. As a result, Mr. Speaker, if the Republican-based bill passes the House, millions of Americans will lose out on important patient protections, and that is just one example of how Americans are harmed by what the Republican leadership does on the Committee on Rules.
Of course, none of these amendments would have been necessary in the Republican bill were they not so deficient, but it is. In fact, the Republican plan is opposed by more than 475 organizations representing State governors, insurance commissioners, attorneys general and State legislators, as well as physician groups, consumer organizations, Chambers of Commerce, farm bureaus and small business associations. The American Nurses Association, for example, wrote that it ``would undermine the protections provided by State laws while doing little to provide coverage for the uninsured.''
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that premiums would increase for 80 percent of small employers, while as many as 100,000 of the sickest people would lose coverage altogether.
In my home State of Texas, more than 1.5 million people would pay higher premiums if the Republican bill passes, according to an analysis of a report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.
Despite this, Mr. Speaker, the Republican leadership refused to allow votes on the Democratic amendments to fix their bill. That means that the Democratic alternative is the only way to protect patients and increase coverage for small business employees.
It sets up a Small Employer Health Benefits Plan that would work like health plans that now cover Federal employees. It covers all small businesses and their employees, offers affordable premiums, and ensures that people get coverage at least as good as what Members of Congress gets. And unlike the Republican bill, it preserves State patient protections.
To pass the Democratic alternative and provide affordable and comprehensive health coverage to small businesses, we need Republicans to stand up to their leadership and vote ``yes'' on the Democratic alternative. But before that, Republicans have yet another opportunity to stop blocking tax relief for millions of military and working families. To do that, all they have to do is stand up to the Republican leadership on the important parliamentary vote on the previous question. If we defeat the previous question, the Democrats can amend the rule to allow the House to vote on the child tax credit and the Armed Forces Fairness Act. The President could sign both of these bills tomorrow if only Republicans would finally stop standing in the way.
Mr. Speaker, I urge the Republicans to put the American people above their leadership today.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Crowley).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 additional minutes to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Loretta Sanchez).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I urge Members to vote no on the previous question. If the previous question is defeated, I will offer an amendment to the rule. My amendment will provide that immediately after the House passes the Small Business Health Fairness Act, it will take from the Speaker's table the Senate passed version of H.R. 1307, the Armed Forces Tax Fairness Act.
Additionally, my amendment will add to H.R. 1307 the text of H.R. 1308 as passed by the Senate, which restores the refundable child tax credit that was removed from the Republican tax bill. This will allow the House to combine these two Senate passed bills and immediately send them back to the Senate and then hopefully on to the White House for the President's signature. If this happens, we can begin helping America's low and modest income working families right away and we can give tax relief to those brave members of the military who are in combat overseas.
As my colleagues know, this is the seventh time we have tried to bring the child tax credit to the floor for a clean up or down vote. The reason we have continued to persevere is because this is so important to America's families, particularly those making at or near the minimum wage, families who struggle every day to get by. They have no one else to fight their battle for them. They cannot afford to hire expensive lobbyists, and they cannot afford to be a Bush pioneer. We are here for them and we will keep fighting for their voices to be heard.
Vote no on the previous question so we can finally consider these two Senate passed tax plans, tax plans which will help those most in need of relief. I would like to stress that a no vote will not stop us from considering the Small Business Health Fairness Act. However, a yes vote will once again, for the seventh time, block the House from having an opportunity to vote to restore the child tax credit that was unceremoniously stripped from the Republican reward-the-rich tax bill that was passed last month. Again, vote no on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the amendment and extraneous materials be printed in the Record immediately prior to the vote on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not present.
Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Speaker, as the chairman of the Committee on Small Business, our Nation's small businessmen and -women tell me over and over that accessible and affordable health care is their number one…
Mr. Speaker, as the chairman of the Committee on Small Business, our Nation's small businessmen and -women tell me over and over that accessible and affordable health care is their number one priority. I have heard from thousands of small employers in America who have been pleading for options to help them manage their surging health care costs. In fact, so many letters came in, we put them into a binder called ``Health Care Horror Stories from America's Small Employers.'' The NFIB assisted us in putting this together for us.
The small business owners tell us regularly how they struggle to provide their workers with health insurance but, each year, they face double-digit increases. Small business owners tell me they do not know how much longer they can continue to provide health care for their employees. Mom and pop businesses tell me they want to provide health care for their employees, but they cannot because of the expense of the policy. My own brother who runs a family restaurant is drowning in the surging costs and the exorbitant costs of health care insurance. This is a family business. We know personally what it costs when you are little, when you have a very small pool. People like my brother Frank are horrified at the thought of not being able to have insurance.
As one of my small business constituents wrote, ``I have always wanted to take care of my employees and provide them with competitive benefits and wages, but each year it gets more and more difficult. Our health insurance costs were raised 43 percent last year and 34 percent this year.''
Another constituent: ``Health care costs and insurance are draining us. Last year we had a 14 percent increase, and now the costs are going up 21 percent again. I have nowhere else to go.''
So they go out of business because they cannot afford insurance.
Today we bring forward a great option, association health plans, to help control these outrageous costs. Of the 41 million Americans with no health insurance, 60 percent of these are small entrepreneurs, their families and their employees.
Why should the small businesses of this country not have the same right to band together as local labor unions do to purchase their insurance in large pools? That is all this is. It is just that simple. The more people you have in the pool, the cheaper the rates are for the insurance. It is a matter of equity. The little guys out there, the people that are struggling, why can they not have the same right, the same legal right to get together as labor unions? Why does there have to be a double standard, to allow labor unions to get together and do the smart thing, which they have been doing for 60 or 70 years, and using the union as the center post around which to buy their insurance, and allow associations as a center post around which to buy insurance for the small business people?
It is simply a matter of equity, it is a matter of fairness, and the biggest argument that we have here is this: the larger the pool, the lower the rate. There is not anybody here on the floor today or in this country that can dispute that fact. My brother is a pool of two, him and his wife, at the restaurant.
As the Chairman of the Small Business Committee, our nation's small business men and women tell me over and over that accessible and affordable health care is their number one priority.
I have heard from thousands of small employers in America who have been pleading for options to help them manage their surging health care costs.
Small business owners tell me regularly how they struggle to provide their workers health insurance, but each year they face double digit increases.
Small business owners tell me they don't know how much longer they can continue to provide health care for their employees because each year the premiums rise, their coverage decreases and out of pocket expenses soar.
``Mom and Pop'' businesses tell me how they want to provide healthcare for their employees, but they cannot because of the expense for a policy that covers less then ten people.
My own brother, who runs the family restaurant, is staggering at the exorbitant cost of health care insurance.
They are horrified at the thought of leaving their workers high and dry without health insurance.
As one of my small business constituents wrote, ``I've always wanted to take care of my employees and provide them with competitive benefits and wages, but each year it is getting more and more difficult. Our health insurance costs were raised 43 percent last year and 34 percent this year and there is nothing we can do about it.``
Another constituent writes, ``Health care costs and insurance are draining us. Last year, we had a 14 percent increase. Now, the costs are going up 21 percent again. I have nowhere to go.''
They are hopeless. Our entrepreneurs, whose ingenuity and hard work ethic have driven the American economy, have run out of options to battle this crisis. They need our help.
And today, we bring forward a great option--Association Health Plans--to help them control these outrageous costs and continue offering vital health insurance to their employees and their families.
Of the 41 million Americans with no health insurance, 60 percent are small entrepreneurs, their families and their employees.
One of the reasons small businesses cannot afford health coverage for their employees is that they are unable to achieve the economies of scale and purchasing power of larger corporations and unions.
Small businesses suffer from unequal treatment--what they want most is a level playing field when it comes to health care.
Large corporations and labor unions use the purchasing power of thousands of employees to offer affordable health insurance to their workers.
Small business owners have to find their insurance on an individual basis, making it very difficult and expensive to find affordable health coverage.
The premiums that small businesses pay for health insurance are typically 20-30 percent higher than those of large companies or unions which can self-insure.
Additionally, the administrative costs incurred by small businesses are likewise higher than those of large businesses; 25-27 percent versus 5-11 percent for large businesses.
Association Health Plans can provide hope to those who lack health care by expanding the pool of people and bringing down costs by 15 to 30 percent.
For small businesses, that savings can mean the difference between providing health care or not.
That savings can be the difference between profitability or losing money.
In March, I held a Small Business Committee hearing on this very topic.
The Washington State Farm Bureau testified to the success they have enjoyed operating an AHP for the last 3\1/2\ years.
Traditionally, farmers have had great difficulty buying health insurance because their business is usually made up entirely of their family.
Of those who have taken advantage of the Washington State Farm Bureau's AHP, 25 percent did not have health insurance prior to enrolling.
Additionally, the Washington State Farm Bureau AHP has operated with a 99 percent retention rate.
The proof is irrefutable. AHPs work.
I urge all of my colleagues to support H.R. 660.
I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, that is a government- run pool with a government-run subsidy, and that will end up like every other government-run program: it will bankrupt the country, and the small businessperson will be at the end of it.
Try this. See if this works. This is so simple. If it works for the labor unions, why can it not work for Frank and Mary Ann Manzullo?
Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time and for his leadership on this issue in our committee. Once again, as with pension legislation, unemployment assistance, tax policy, and…
Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time and for his leadership on this issue in our committee.
Once again, as with pension legislation, unemployment assistance, tax policy, and many other examples, the Republican majority of this House is bringing forward a bill that they claim is in the interest of working families. But once again this is head-fakes and sleight of hand. This bill hurts working people, places their already-meager health insurance coverage at risk, and serves only the interest of the business lobbyists.
I want to add that once again, as with those earlier bills, the Republican majority continues to deprive 206 Members of the House on the Democratic side and the tens of millions of people we represent from being able to conduct a serious debate on this issue. Once again, a contentious bill comes to the floor with no amendments allowed, just a substitute. So there is little time to debate the bill that will cost millions of Americans, including millions of children and women workers, their health coverage, with no ability to offer amendments to improve this bill. These tyrannical and corrupt rules under which we are operating under the Republican leadership in this House prevent us from having that debate and prevent the Republicans from taking votes on amendments we would like to offer.
Let us be clear: this is not a question of whether or not we have time to devote to debate. Week in and week out the Congress comes in on Tuesday or late Monday night and leaves on Thursday or early Friday morning. The Congress has time to adjourn for fund-raisers, the Congress has time to adjourn for golf tournaments, the Congress has time to adjourn for the White House picnic; but apparently we do not have time to be able to offer amendments to legislation so that we can have an honest debate about the legislation before us or have opportunities to improve it or to offer an alternative view on how that should be carried out.
So what do we find out now? We do not have that opportunity here when we are risking 8 million people's health care coverage, according to the Congressional Budget Office. So we will pass today, with almost entirely Republican votes, a bill that deprives 47 percent of the people in this country a role in debating and improving this legislation.
The heart of this ill-conceived bill is a provision that overrides State laws requiring access to basic health care services. These State laws say to people that when they have a health insurance plan, that plan will mean something. It means that they will have access to mammograms, that means that they will have access to emergency services, that means that they will have maternity benefits and well- baby care and diabetes treatment, and it means there will be some mental health coverage and cancer screening. Because those are the things that the American families need in a health care plan.
Now, why are those the rules today in States across this country? Why did the States make this determination? Not to burden small businesses, not to burden health care plans, but because what people were being offered prior to that were essentially phantom plans. They were phantom plans that had little or no benefits to individuals, that did not meet the needs that families had. They had little or no benefits in terms of what women needed in their health care policies. That is the reason for these regulations, or these requirements, that health care insurance plans provide in their health care. That is the purpose of the plans. But that was not what was happening.
So now what we see is that this comes along, and it says we are going to override the judgment of these States, we are going to overrides the judgment of the legislators, the collective wisdom of the Governors and legislatures, the attorneys general, the insurance commissioners and others to make sure that people have adequate health insurance. And the consequences are that we are stripping much of this treatment away from the individuals in terms of preventive services for men, women and children.
We know that these services and treatments save money, we know they preserve health in the long run, and we know that these services were rarely provided voluntarily by employers in the past. That is precisely why so many States have moved to guarantee this coverage. The proponents of this legislation constantly want to say, well, this was good for labor unions and this was good for big industry. Yes, and in those instances the employees are organized and they negotiate on an equal level. That is not the situation with these plans. These people are given a health care plan which they can take or leave. And the purpose here is to reduce the cost of those plans.
The fact of the matter is CBO has reported that approximately 8.5 million workers would end up in AHPs, and over 95 percent would simply be dumped into those from existing health care plans. That means that 8 million workers would be stripped of their current legal right to critical treatments and preventive health care services. Eight million people would end up with less health care the next morning than they currently have under this provision.
I recognize that that means that new people will be given health insurance that do not have it, but we have to weigh the question of the people who will get this stripped-down policy as their health insurance to those people who have relatively decent policies who will lose their access to those policies. Because that is really what this is about. It is about cutting the cost to businesses, not about providing health insurance that families truly need.
That is why, again, these plans were protected in the States and were regulated in the States, and that is why so many of the Governors, both Republican and Democrat, oppose this legislation. That also means that these people are not going to have the kind of peace of mind that so many of them now have with respect to their insurance policies.
We also know that one of the reasons this bill is offered is that health insurance costs are increasing. They are increasing about 20, 25 percent for small employers. What that suggests is that, as people move into these plans, the individuals with higher risk will be left out. Those people who stayed in those kinds of insured pools, those costs will continue to go up; and it means that we will have uneven health insurance for people in this country.
Madam Speaker, this is a very bad bill. It is a bad bill. It really is about false advertising. It is suggesting that somehow this is going to extend to millions of people health insurance that will cover their families. That is not what it is going to do. It would if we were not overriding State law, but here the majority has decided that the collective wisdom of the States and the protection of residents and consumers in those States, that is going to be overridden and individuals be under no requirements to offer those components as part of this health insurance plan. I would hope that the House would reject this plan when it comes time to vote on the legislation.
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Madam Speaker, I stand in strong opposition of H.R. 660. We are hearing all the time about do no harm, and I think Members need to remember, why do 48 States have good basic health care insurance? It…
Madam Speaker, I stand in strong opposition of H.R. 660. We are hearing all the time about do no harm, and I think Members need to remember, why do 48 States have good basic health care insurance? It is mainly because our advocates, breast cancer or diabetes, all of the diseases that we are trying to prevent, have made the States realize that the monies that we spend to make sure that people stay healthy certainly is cheaper in the long run. That is 48 States including New York, and what we are doing here, we are wiping that out. We are wiping that out.
As patients and advocates across this Nation quickly discovered that their basic health care needs were not being served by their insurance companies, that is why the States have forced the insurance companies to make sure that the treatments that we are asking for, like a mammogram, and how many lives have we saved over the years because we have made the insurance companies make sure they have it in their policies. The States made them do that.
What we are doing here is taking that away. They demanded that their States step in and protect them. Madam Speaker, as I said in 48 States, we have our attorneys general, we have our governors, Republicans and Democrats. What we are doing here is harm. All of us, there is not one Member in this Chamber that does not want to make sure that our small businesses are able to offer health care insurance. That is why the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews) and the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind) are going to offer an amendment that will offer help to our small businesses.
There is not one penny in this bill that is going to help small businesses get health care. The Kind-Andrews amendment will. As a nurse and certainly with the constituents I have coming into my office yesterday, today, last week, every single week, all they are asking for is to make sure that their basic health care needs are met. What we are doing here is taking it away. I will say again, there is not one Member, Republican or Democrat, that does not want to help our small businesses. We would like to see health care be out there for everybody. I certainly would, but again, we keep hearing about budget constraints. Well, if we had not passed those large tax cuts, maybe we could do some good health care policy around here.
Madam Speaker, this bill will do harm to millions of people. It is always the devil is in the details, and on the top of this legislation it might look good, but in the end it is not. All 48 States, as I have said over and over again, have fought to make sure that our insurance companies give the services that our constituents need. That is why it was passed. That is why this bill should be defeated.
Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague from the Committee on Education and the Workforce for yielding me this time and for introducing this bill, because this substitute is actually the answer to what we are looking for, and it is also paid for.
Let me say what this amendment will do, the substitute. It provides small employees the same access to health benefits that Federal employees have. All small business employees and employers are offered coverage. It minimizes the adverse selection. ``The Secretary shall establish an initial open enrollment period and thereafter an annual enrollment period.'' It uses state-licensed insurers without preempting State laws.
For some reason, I thought basically, especially on the other side of the aisle, that we never wanted to preempt State laws.
This amendment provides a minimum benefit package similar to Federal employees. All participating insurers must offer benefits equal to or greater than the options offered to Federal employees. It also provides for affordable small employer premiums with premium assistance.
This is the answer to help our small businesses. And again I will say, on the main bill, when we have Republican and Democratic Governors throughout this country saying this is not the answer, when we have State attorneys general saying this is not the answer, and that this substitute is the answer, then I believe this can help our small businesses. We all want to do that.
So I would say to my colleagues here on the right, and certainly the right side and the left side of the aisle, that this substitute is the answer to what our Governors would like, certainly our State attorneys general would like. It would help the people and not take away the minimum health care benefits that we have been fighting for for gosh knows how many years.
I will stress again and again that the only reason that we have decent basic health care coverage in our States, 48 of them, is because they realized that was the way to go.
Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, in its present form.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 2 minutes.
I rise in strong support for the motion to recommit. This motion will prohibit employers from joining association health plans if it allows for a reduction in coverage for breast cancer services. A vote against this motion and for the bill will allow employers that already cover basic mammograms to drop this coverage.
Mr. Speaker, a reduction in health insurance in any form is a reduction in health care. It is just that simple. States know that without guaranteeing basic health care, patients will not get the services they desperately need. They will only seek help under extreme circumstances, requiring more expensive medical treatment for their disease, putting their lives and the lives of their children at risk.
According to the American Cancer Society, over 211,000 new cases of breast cancer will be diagnosed in the United States this year alone. Two thousand of those cases will be in my State. Breast cancer is potentially fatal, but early detection through mammogram screenings is the key to proper treatment of this disease. Timely screening could prevent approximately 15 percent to 30 percent of all deaths from breast cancer among women over the age of 40. Currently, New York and 47 other States require insurance companies to cover mammogram screenings. However, under this bill, associated health plans would be exempt from having to provide this critical benefit in these 48 States. This motion would at least present a reduction of health care services to those who already have this important benefit.
As a nurse, I cannot believe this House, after hearing from cancer survivors for years about the need for treatments and screenings to beat this deadly disease, is now going to be rolling back these patient protections.
Today before you vote, truly realize a vote against this motion to recommit will harm millions of patients across this country.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Woolsey).
Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews).
Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
Madam Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to the substandard health coverage that will be proposed in this bill. Americans deserve affordable, quality health care coverage for our children and…
Madam Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to the substandard health coverage that will be proposed in this bill. Americans deserve affordable, quality health care coverage for our children and for our families, not this substandard bill filled with gaps, holes and exceptions that leave women and children especially vulnerable. This bill leaves gaps for expecting mothers, leaves holes for children with diabetes, leaves exceptions for families requiring mental health care coverage. This legislation rewards bad medicine by preempting every State standard that guarantees quality health care, that protects women, children, and our families.
As a Minnesota State legislator, I fought hard for our State's health care requirements. People were not getting the care that they needed or deserved. Families living with diabetes came into my office and would tell me how their health plans would cover their insulin but would not cover the needles to deliver the insulin or the test strips to test their sugar levels. This basic health care is needed to keep people with diabetes healthy and enables them to manage and control their disease. We passed laws in Minnesota mandating basic coverage that health plans were not providing. They were not providing basic health coverage.
Today we are considering legislation that rolls back these basic health care protections. Minnesotans want comprehensive, affordable health care. Minnesota health care professionals in a hearing I held, nurses, pediatricians, psychologists and, yes, their patients, told me they strongly oppose these substandard association plans.
Let us ensure quality. Let us ensure affordable health care that protects women, protects children, protects our families and does not only protect
them but protects those who we have heard over and over again, the million people who stand to lose health insurance should this bill be enacted.
Mr. Speaker, I just want to make sure that I understand clearly the benefits of the Kind amendment in contrast to the underlying bill that we will be asked to vote on later.
One of the concerns I had in committee, as the gentleman knows, was that gender discrimination by the coverage that can be allowed under the existing bill that we are going to be voting on would have a direct impact on women's health care coverage, especially during their reproductive years.
So I would like to know, under the Kind plan, is cervical cancer screening covered if States cover it?
I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
Mr. Speaker, would contraceptive coverage be allowed for women under the Kind plan?
If the State requires mammography screening, is that covered under the Kind amendment?
If a State requires maternity coverage so it is not the drive-through maternity coverage that we have heard about in past years, is that covered?
Is a minimum mastectomy stay also covered if States have that as part of their law?
Would a minimum maternity stay be covered?
So we have good reproductive health coverage for women while we are expecting. But also I found with many of the women I have spoken with, and their husbands too, they would like to make sure that women have access to gynecologists, sometimes as their primary care physicians, and many States allow this. Would the Kind amendment allow this to continue?
And does the Kind amendment also allow for second automatic referrals if States allow for second opinions?
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman.
I yield to the gentleman from New Jersey.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, that is totally correct. In fact, many of these I was directly involved in in the State of Minnesota, because we had families, women, mothers, husbands, brothers, aunts and uncles come and say that this was basic health care coverage that their mothers needed, that their grandmothers needed, that their nieces needed.
That is correct. And it is my understanding that insurance companies did not offer these coverages because they were, in their opinion, too expensive to cover, and that put gender discrimination at risk for women in their reproductive years.
I thank the gentleman. I will be supporting the Kind amendment because if the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Kind), and the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews) and I all worked for the same employer, I would like to think that my basic health care coverage, including my reproductive health, would be covered.
Mr. Speaker, I am proud to join my colleagues today in offering a motion to recommit to protect the coverage that women and children currently have today. This motion simply states that associated health plans cannot stop coverage for well-child visits, maternity or other types of visits that are vital to women's and children's health care. Children deserve a healthy start in life. Coverage to promote healthy children is required in Minnesota and 30 other States. This coverage ensures that children have regular visits to pediatricians to get immunizations and preventive care. Why would we not want to protect our children?
This coverage is particularly important because getting a good start in life can prevent avoidable illnesses, identify serious disabilities, and reduce future health care costs. We have all seen the importance of childhood immunizations. For example, today polio has been eradicated because of the determination and commitment our country had to immunize children when they were young. Regular doctor visits for newborns is absolutely critical. Thirty-three children are born every day with severe hearing loss. If caught early enough through preventive doctor visits, this screening can make a difference. It can make a difference in their lives and a difference in the money spent on special education.
This motion ensures that families who currently have well-child visits and maternity coverage will not lose it tomorrow. We should be ensuring access to quality, comprehensive health care for our Nation's working families and not rolling back basic coverage. I urge my colleagues to support the motion to recommit.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Madam Speaker, to my friend, the gentleman from…
Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. SAM JOHNSON of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Madam Speaker, to my friend, the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews), that is total misinformation. And I would agree that the gentleman is politicizing this bill. But he is doing it, not us.
This bill makes it illegal to cherrypick. This bill does not eliminate any form of insurance and the gentleman stated it did. It does not stop insurance companies from insuring on whatever they want to insure. And as a matter of fact, they probably will.
Furthermore, one million more people became uninsured in the past year and it was primarily because of small businesses getting out of the insurance business because it is too expensive. And I think that there is the one way in which we can ensure that people will be insured, more of them through small businesses. As a matter of fact, a private study has said about 8.5 million more will be insured.
Under our bill, sick or high risk groups or individuals cannot be denied coverage. Moreover, AHPs are severely limited in their ability to charge higher rates which my cohort said would happen. They can not charge higher rates for sicker people or groups within the plan. AHPs can only charge different rates to the extent allowed under the law of the State where the employer is based.
The bill contains strict requirements under which only bona fide professional and trade associations can sponsor an AHP, and these organizations must be established for purposes other than providing health insurance for at least 3 years.
Now, there is considerable comment about AHPs being exempts from State coverage. As we all know, labor unions and large corporations that self-insure are already exempt from State health care mandates, and they provide quality benefits because it is in the best interest of their employees. And I will charge you that small business would apply the same reasoning. It is really a moral fairness issue. If it is good enough for labor unions, good enough for Fortune 500 companies, it ought to be good enough for small business.
We must remember that our ultimate goal here is to bring quality coverage to the 41 million Americans who have no insurance. Further, AHPs will significantly expand access to health coverage to uninsured Americans by increasing small businesses bargaining power with health care providers by giving employers freedom from costly State-mandated benefit packages.
According to a private study, as I said, AHPs should increase the number of insured Americans by up to 8.5 million people. Sadly, last year one in seven Americans went without health insurance. The increase in the number of uninsured comes solely from the declining market in the small business community. With health insurance costs continuing to rise, businesses face increases more than double the national average. Health insurance costs are still rising and many small employers are forced to drop health coverage. Some cannot even offer it in the first place.
The cost saving benefits of AHPs would help small employers of main street access coverage at a more affordable price. According to the Congressional Budget Office, AHPs would save small business owners and their employees as much as 25 percent of their health insurance costs. Just like buying a case of soda at a supermarket costs less per can than buying 24 individual cans at a vending machine, AHPs would allow groups like the National Restaurant Association to buy thousands of health insurance policies at a lower person policy cost and pass the savings along.
Let us face facts. Costs are rising. Businesses are dropping coverage, and more people are going uninsured. Congress must address the uninsured problem and move forward with increasing the insured through association health plans. It is the least this Congress can do to make certain that the American people will receive better health care at a more reasonable price.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. King), a member of the committee.
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Ballenger), a member of the Committee on Education and Workforce and a long-time Member of Congress and a small businessman.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Illinois (Mrs. Biggert), a member of the committee.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Boehner), the chairman of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Manzullo), the chairman of the Committee on Small Business.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this amendment. We have been hearing all day that it is going to create all this stuff, and it is not going to create anything. Our bill allows for anything to be covered, and it will all be covered.
This amendment creates an incredibly complex $50 billion government- run program. The program sets up brand-new health care subsidies, but only for certain small businesses and some workers. Unlike the Federal employee plan, the new program would be subject to thousands of State mandates. As we have heard time and again, those mandates make up at least 15 percent of the rising cost of health insurance.
Now, here is the real kicker. In order to qualify for the subsidy, employers are required to pay at least 50 percent of the cost for the care of their employees. The Democrat substitute will raise health care costs for small employers and then spend $50 billion to subsidize it.
AHPs are going to give everybody the ability to obtain insurance. Mr. Speaker, I urge rejection of this substitute.
Madam Speaker, I rise today to oppose H.R. 660, the ``Small Business Health Fairness Act of 2003.'' This bill is badly misnamed. Rather than make the cost of health insurance for small businesses…
Madam Speaker, I rise today to oppose H.R. 660, the ``Small Business Health Fairness Act of 2003.'' This bill is badly misnamed. Rather than make the cost of health insurance for small businesses more fair, this bill would have the perverse effect of increasing the cost of health insurance for many people and increase the number of people without health insurance altogether.
This bill would allow these new entities, called Association Health Plans (AHPs), to bypass State regulation and offer bare-bones health insurance policies. Small businesses that don't choose to offer these inadequate policies would see their premiums increase by 23 percent on average. This premium hike would occur because AHPs, which would offer only skeletal coverage, would attract the healthiest individuals, leaving traditional health insurance plans with the sickest and most expensive patients. This shift would penalize businesses with sicker employees, and make health insurance for those who need it the most even more unaffordable.
Further, this legislation would swell the ranks of the uninsured by over one million more individuals. As traditional health insurance becomes increasingly expensive, more and more businesses would have no choice but to drop health insurance for their employees, leaving these individuals with little or no opportunity to purchase health coverage.
Contrary to what proponents of this bill claim, AHPs would not truly help small businesses purchase health insurance for their employees. Although proponents claim that AHPs would give small-employers bargaining power to purchase affordable health insurance, most States already have laws in place that allow for group purchasing arrangements. This bill would only harm existing laws while usurping the traditional role of States to regulate insurance.
In fact, this bill would override key State laws and regulations that protect millions of Americans. For example, many States regulate insurance premiums to prevent insurers from discriminating against the ill. But under this bill those laws wouldn't apply. AHPs would be allowed to offer extremely-low ``teaser'' rates, and then rapidly increase the premium if the enrollee becomes sick. Furthermore, nearly all States have enacted external review laws which guarantee patients an independent doctor review if a health plan denies them coverage for a particular service. Patients who join AHPs would lose this vitally important consumer protection.
This bill also exempts AHPs from State laws that require health insurance to cover particular benefits. These laws have helped to ensure that millions of Americans get access to the healthcare that they need--such as mammography screenings, maternity care, well-child care, and prompt payment rules. In my State, California, employees who join AHPs could well lose access to these services as well as certain emergency services, direct access to OB/GYNs, mental health parity, and other important benefits. Moreover, this law would allow health plans to ``gag'' doctors, the currently illegal practice of health insurers preventing doctors from discussing treatment options that the plan does not cover, even if some of those options are in the patient's best medical interest.
The problems go on. AHPs are likely to create new fraud and abuse problems in health care as well. These plans are very similar to Multiple Employer Welfare Plans (MEWAs) which Congress created in the 1970s. MEWAs were also exempt from State insurance regulation. The Department of Labor found that many of these plans were frauds and left their enrollees holding the bag for more than $123 million in unpaid health expenses. Congress had to come back and clean up the law to end this blatant abuse. We should learn from that mistake--not repeat it!
This bill is bad for patients, bad for small business, and bad for States. It is opposed by over 500 organizations--including both the Democratic and Republican Governors Associations, local Chambers of Commerce, small business associations, physician organizations, labor unions, and healthcare coalitions. H.R. 660 would increase premiums, increase the number of uninsured, lead to massive fraud, and remove key State protections. I urge my colleagues to reject this legislation.
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Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time and for his leadership and work on this very important piece of legislation. Health care coverage is becoming more unaffordable for…
Madam Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time and for his leadership and work on this very important piece of legislation.
Health care coverage is becoming more unaffordable for workers and small businesses all across America. In fact, the cost of providing health care now exceeds the cost of taxes. For that reason, I have introduced the Small Business Health Fairness Act to ensure that more workers can afford their health care, regardless of whether they work for a large international company or for just a small hardware store on Main Street. A farmer in Kentucky should have the same access to health benefits as someone who works for a large company like Ford Motor Company. That is where the fairness is.
Why should small business employees not be able to obtain the same economies of scale, bargaining power, benefit design and choices now available to those in large corporations and to those in labor unions? You will not hear our opponents attack those plans, I do not believe. Ninety-eight percent of large businesses offer health insurance to their employees. Less than half of small businesses offer this important benefit.
When we look at the fact that the morbidity rate of an uninsured hospitalized patient is more than twice that of an insured one, I think we can see that that is a resounding call to decrease the number of uninsured, which this bill will do. Experts estimate that up to 8\1/2\ million uninsured small business workers will be covered by AHP legislation. This plan will decrease the number of uninsured Americans, will reduce health care costs by up to 30 percent for small businesses, and provide new coverage options for self-employed, like farmers and small business workers across this Nation. It will not only give more health care coverage but allow small businesses to create more jobs.
Many have made false claims against this bill, and I would like to take a moment to set the record straight. In redrafting this bill, we have taken great lengths to ensure that these plans remain solvent. We have set up strict solvency provisions that include reserves, cash reserves, surplus reserves, stop-loss insurance, both specific and aggregate, indemnification for plan termination, insolvency funds, and a certification fee required for application.
Opponents of this legislation have also asserted AHP plans will engage in cherrypicking, taking only the young and healthy and leaving the sick to fend for themselves. These false accusers overlook or are unaware that all members of an association must be offered the plan coverage. Furthermore, plans must demonstrate that they have average or above-average risk to even be able to form an association health plan to begin with. That means an association could not be formed of young marathon runners just to provide a low-risk group.
Opponents of this legislation falsely charge that the Department of Labor is unable to handle such a program. Such statements, I believe, are baseless and contradict the facts. The DOL currently administers 2.5 million private job-based health plans. These programs serve 131 million workers. Sixty-seven million individuals now are in self- insured plans and are monitored exclusively under DOL oversight. DOL has the experience, the personnel, and the vision to monitor and enforce these plans. Besides, I know Secretary Elaine Chao. She is a friend of mine; she is a good Kentuckian. Believe me, she can effectively oversee these plans.
In conclusion, the President favors association health plans and strongly supports them. The Department of Labor is ready for AHPs; and small businesses, farmers, and the self-employed are ready for association health
plans. Uninsured Americans have waited far too long, so I ask my colleagues to do the right thing for the uninsured Americans of small businesses, not only in Kentucky but across America. Support this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I have not had any time to make any phone calls. I did not read the think tank studies. I did, however, for 22 years prior to coming to Congress, manage a company. When we left, we had…
Mr. Speaker, I have not had any time to make any phone calls. I did not read the think tank studies. I did, however, for 22 years prior to coming to Congress, manage a company. When we left, we had 220 employees covered by an ERISA-qualified
group medical insurance coverage. And their salaries was paid and my salary was paid by the proceeds of sales made by independent contractors of which 90 percent were women.
Under the independent contractor law and IRS requirements, we could not offer them group medical insurance and they had no ERISA protection. They were at the mercy of what was available.
Now, those 220 for whom we provided group medical insurance, I would have to resent the fact that the illusion was made that an employer who had that many women as a percentage of their workforce would not provide gynecological benefits and other reproductive benefits available to women. Of course you would.
Now what this bill does it does not preclude a mandated 48-hour stay any more than it precludes any other benefit. It offers the employer the option of offering it. It is true there is an exemption from the State requirement. It is untrue that it necessarily, on its face, takes that benefit away from a company.
Who in here would believe for a moment that an employer who wants to offer a benefit to his employees would take away the very benefit that is most important to those employees? Facts are stubborn things.
The fact of the matter is, 41 million Americans do not have health insurance. Now there are contributing reasons to that. But one of the main contributing reasons are those independent contractors, small business people, laborers, people who make the money that pay the taxes who have no accessibility to health insurance.
Now, I have lobbied on both sides about this and I care about this very deeply. I have a campaign staff right now and I am providing insurance to those few individuals I have employed because I know how important it is to have it, and I know how expensive it is to go out and get it on an individual basis, even though they are basically young. But understand this, this bill does not preclude a health care benefit for women that is mandated in State law from being offered.
It gives the choice for companies to put together a cafeteria-type of plan which may or may not include it, but do not sell those employers short that they would not offer a benefit that the very basis of their employees have to have.
Secondly, as I understand it, the cost of this is about $354 million in terms of CBO's estimate of H.R. 660 and $50 billion in terms of the substitute. I would say this, if we can make an investment that is $49,442,000,000 less expensive to offer insurance to 41 million Americans or a lot of them, we estimate 8 to 10, to provide benefits to give them health care that they do not have, then we should vote for the underlying bill. We should reject the substitute, and we should reject any false perception that this is taking away the integrity of a business in offering a qualified plan to their qualified employees.
I yield to the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr. Speaker, the gentleman is absolutely correct, and if I may take the remainder of the time to tell the gentleman that in that exact scenario, since I could not offer those benefits because they were independent contractors, but because I cared very deeply about my independent contractors and the quality of life they had, I tried to scratch and find those.
What this bill does, it opens up an opportunity for employers who have independent contractors as their employees, to take the benefits of pooling and provide for those independent contractors the benefit that ERISA guarantees the opportunity to provide in terms of the employees that company has. This is an important step forward for 41 million Americans.
Madam Speaker, I appreciate the comments of my colleague about the crisis in small employer health care; but as we address this issue, I think we have to ascribe ourselves fully to the Hippocratic…
Madam Speaker, I appreciate the comments of my colleague about the crisis in small employer health care; but as we address this issue, I think we have to ascribe ourselves fully to the Hippocratic oath, First, do no harm.
The AHP proposal before us would do a great deal of harm. I would recommend to my colleagues, study this issue before you vote, it is very serious. If there is not enough time to get into the technical details, just look at who is against this bill. This bill could be called a wonderful, unifying force because it has brought together people who do not agree on anything, but they do agree this is bad policy for this country. The Republican Governors Association, the Democrat Governors Association, 41 State attorneys general of both political parties, the National Association of Insurance Commissioners, again representing regulators of both political parties have reached their conclusion based on several fundamental facts.
We have spent a lot of time in this Chamber debating the Patients' Bill of Rights worrying about protections. I guess we could call this the ``Patient Bill of No Rights'' because it literally exposes those who would be insured under these mechanisms to whatever might be written with no consumer protections and no State insurance department to go to for those protections.
There is a nice populist argument which has been used this afternoon that if big companies can do it, little companies ought to be able to do it, too. I represent North Dakota. That is the place of small employers. The difference in a fundamental one. IBM can self-insure. They do it themselves. They basically pay themselves. A small hardware store in an AHP would be joining an association, sending their premiums not to themselves but off to others, and that is why we need the check. We have tried this before. What happens is promoters come up with these schemes, the employer goes for the lowest premium, they ship their hard-earned dollars off to provide the coverage for their employees, and someone makes off with the money. It has time and time again.
The protections protect coverage, but they also protect to make sure the plan is solvent so they can pay the health claim when the insured needs it. We have seen this tried before under the guise of multiple employer trusts. They went bankrupt; there was a slew of scandals. We have seen it now under multiple employer welfare arrangements. There were scandals, busts, uncertain insurance framework for our consumers.
Madam Speaker, now they want to call them AHPs, but the result will be precisely the same.
If it were simply a benign issue of let the buyer beware, it would be one thing; but it is much worse than that because this makes the premiums go up for all who remain in existing insurance pools. Small employers insuring through insurance companies are not viewed just on their own little group, they are part of a pool. Well, as AHPs would take off smaller healthy groups, those left would be older, sicker groups. Premiums would go up, coverage would be diminished, or dropped altogether. It has been estimated that as many as a million people would lose their coverage.
Again, do not take my word for it, look at what the Congressional Budget Office has written on this, or consider the quotes by the Mercer Consulting Group in analyzing this proposal, Health insurance premiums would increase 23 percent for small employers that continue to purchase State-regulated coverage. This would result from AHPs' ability to attract healthier-than-average firms out of the small, regulated market. This makes the problem worse.
First, let us do no harm. We need to address small employers. The substitute to be presented has a better approach in that regard, but the underlying bill is a stinker, and let us beat it.
My colleagues, when debate is completed here on the rule, my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will order the previous question. And I would ask my colleagues on the Democratic side of the…
My colleagues, when debate is completed here on the rule, my colleagues on the other side of the aisle will order the previous question. And I would ask my colleagues on the Democratic side of the aisle to vote ``no'' on the previous question to allow the consideration of the Armed Forces Tax Fairness Act, which is currently pending before the Speaker's desk, and allow for the Senate language for the child tax credit to come before this House. It will allow us to have a vote on that legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the fact that under this rule we will have the opportunity to have a substitute, and I do express my appreciation for that. I intend to vote for the substitute and against the majority bill before us. But if I could, I will use this opportunity to speak about what will then be offered later on again today in the IRS substitute, the Rangel substitute, that will once again have a substitute that will include the Senate language on the child tax credit so it will give our colleagues on the other side of the aisle an opportunity to vote up or down on the Senate language.
But I do not think that that substitute will pass at the end of the day. I am a realist. I do not think so because I believe my Republican friends on the other side of the aisle have, unfortunately, shamelessly, brought a sham child tax credit bill before the House this last week, a bill our President opposes, a bill that a Republican- controlled Senate opposes as well. They knew when the House voted on that bill that it would never, and I say never, be enacted. In fact, their own Republican Senate leaders have admitted that it will never be enacted, the House version.
Instead, the Republicans would rather play politics with this issue, politics with the lives of 6.5 million Americans and working families. Yes, they work. They are not on welfare, as some would have you wrongly believe. And they do have children. Believe it or not working people have families, and they do make babies, and they do have expenses to pay for. Playing politics is what is happening with the lives of 260,000 children, their families on active military duty in Iraq who lose this credit under the Republican sham bill.
This Republican scheme is so egregious that even Senator John McCain said he did not understand how the Republican leadership and President Bush left enlisted men and women out of this tax package.
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Only in a positive way, Mr. Speaker. Only in a positive way did I make reference to the Senator.
They play politics with the 3.1 million Americans who have lost their jobs since President Bush became President, with even more job losses projected.
Again, it is shameful to be offering a tax cut to the rich while cutting benefits for working people, cutting benefits for our enlisted personnel and their families, cutting benefits for veterans, cutting benefits for seniors on Medicare, and allowing 3.1 million Americans who have lost their jobs, jobs that have dispersed since President Bush became President and the Republicans began their economic policies 3 short years ago.
Mr. President, you have the power, it is in your hands, to demand the Senate bill be brought before this House for a vote. You can bring the needed pressure to bear on our colleagues on the other side of the aisle for an up or down vote on the Senate bill, and you can have that bill on your desk this evening. Do not let us leave here today, do not let us finish the work of this House this week before demanding that the Senate bill be brought up in this House and passed so that you can sign it, Mr. President, this evening or sometime this week before we leave.
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Madam Speaker, today I voted against passage of H.R. 660, the legislation that would establish Association Health Plans (AHP's). Despite its intention to allow small businesses to band together in…
Madam Speaker, today I voted against passage of H.R. 660, the legislation that would establish Association Health Plans (AHP's). Despite its intention to allow small businesses to band together in order to offer affordable health care benefits to their workers, this proposal will, in fact, make coverage more expensive for most small businesses and their employees. Though I support the intent of this legislation, some serious flaws became apparent during my consideration of the legislation in the Education and Workforce Committee, which prevented my support.
According to the Congressional Budget Office, 4 out of 5 of the small businesses that now have health coverage would face higher costs if H.R. 660 was enacted. A recent report by Mercer Risk, Finance & Insurance Consulting for National Small Business United underscored this fact, finding that H.R. 660 would make health coverage more, not less expensive for many small businesses. In Georgia there are 722,535 people that get insurance coverage through small businesses. If H.R. 600 passes, 578,028 of these individuals will pay higher premiums.
The problem with the legislation that will cause insurance costs to increase is a provision which preempts State laws regarding the degree to which insurance premiums can vary for different companies with a plan. Therefore, firms can be charged wildly different rates based on a variety of factors, including health status and age. This legislation would allow some nefarious companies to unfairly discriminate against consumers on the basis of age, gender or race. The ultimate effect, is that firms with sicker employees will not be able to afford coverage under an AHP. This means those firms and the firms currently in the traditional insurance market will end up paying higher premiums. Instead of offering a meaningful coverage alternative, AHP's would only help to those healthy enough to qualify for lower rates.
Furthermore, this legislation prevents a State's insurance commissioner from protecting consumers' rights when they have concerns about their association health plan. The bill does not specify who has the duty or the authority to help consumers if they have a problem with their AHP. Instead, the bill creates a complex web of authority, in which consumers might only have recourse through the U.S. Department of Labor, which does not have the manpower or expertise to provide that help.
When consumers have a serious problem with their health insurance coverage, they need to know they have somewhere they can go for real assistance. H.R. 660 just fails to guarantee that and could make it very difficult for consumers to get any assistance with their health insurance problems.
I offered amendments in the Education and the Workforce Committee to correct both of these key concerns and improve H.R. 660, but both were rejected. For this reason, and because of my overarching concern that the bill falls short in delivering real help for small businesses, I opposed final passage of H.R. 660. In doing so, I was supported by a diverse array of over 500 national, State and local organizations including small business, consumer, insurance, union, provider, and patient advocate groups, as well as Georgia's Attorney General and Insurance Commissioner, who have joined in opposition to H.R. 660. I will continue to be an advocate for the interests of small businesses, but am convinced that H.R. 660 does not address the problems they face.
I will continue to work with my colleagues to draft legislation that would give small businesses more options in offering health insurance without supplanting Georgia's consumer protection laws.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to H.R. 660, the Small Business Health Fairness Act. Like many of my colleagues, I have heard from numerous industry groups, health plans, medical…
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in strong opposition to H.R. 660, the Small Business Health Fairness Act. Like many of my colleagues, I have heard from numerous industry groups, health plans, medical associations, and, most importantly, my constituents on whether or not AHPs are the best solution to address the growing number of uninsured in our Nation. I am particularly concerned about finding workable solutions for small business employers.
Like many of my colleagues, my district in south Texas is built on the foundation of small businesses. They employ a large percentage of the workforce in the Rio Grande Valley. Most employers are faced with difficult choices on how to offer loyal employees the benefit they deserve or risk losing them to larger companies in larger cities. The high cost of health insurance is extremely burdensome for these small firms, and that is why we are here today.
H.R. 660 is a well-intended bill. Many of the 41 million Americans without health insurance are employed by small businesses. If Congress can find a way to help these employers provide health insurance for their workforce, we will be well on our way to reducing the number of uninsured in this country. But in my view, AHPs are not the way to do it. AHPs will offer minimal coverage, sufficient only for the young and the healthy. Our workforce will have none of the protections that State benefit mandates offer. They will have no assurance against fraud or premium inflation and no assurance that Federal oversight by the Department of Labor will even be conducive to fair handling of disputes. AHPs create an entirely new health care crisis, with 8.5 million newly underinsured Americans.
As a member of a heavily Hispanic border district, I am particularly concerned about what this will mean for the diagnosis and the treatment of diabetes, a disease that strikes many of my Hispanic constituents.
Mr. Speaker, over 11 million Americans have diagnosed diabetes, while another 6 million have diabetes but don't know it.
Diabetes hits minority populations especially hard. Untreated, this disease leads to end-stage renal failure, blindness, amputations and over 200,000 deaths annually. However, it has been demonstrated that appropriate use of diabetes medications, equipment, supplies, and education can dramatically reduce the incidence and impact of complications associated with diabetes. President Bush surely knew this when he was Governor of Texas and signed into law the diabetes coverage mandated currently in effect in Texas.
My principal concern is that the AHP legislation before us today preempts the State benefit mandates in Texas and 45 other States, your home States, for coverage of diabetes supplies and education. The amendment that the gentleman from Michigan, Mr. Kildee and I offered, unsuccessfully, in committee would have corrected this dangerous omission. We also tried, again without success, to have the amendment made in order during floor consideration.
By refusing to include a requirement that AHPs adhere to State coverage laws associated with diabetes, we will be leaving millions of people with diabetes to fend for themselves. It is not a matter of cost effectiveness; it is a matter of right and wrong.
Mr. Speaker, the Democratic substitute offers small business employers and their workers a fair alternative. It establishes a small employer health benefit plan with minimum coverage similar to the Blue Cross/Blue Shield standard plan.
I urge my colleagues to support the Kind-Andrews substitute, and if that substitute is defeated, to vote against H.R. 660.
Mr. Speaker, let us talk about this child tax credit. When we began with the child tax credit, we were thinking about families. We were talking about families. We said in this difficult economic…
Mr. Speaker, let us talk about this child tax credit. When we began with the child tax credit, we were thinking about families. We were talking about families. We said in this difficult economic time, it is important for us to hold families together, to help those struggling, families which have to educate their children, provide child care, be good parents, sometimes both parents are working.
It is important to keep families together and to honor the fact that families want to be together and bring children up in a good environment.
But the Republicans proved something when they got to the child tax credit. It was not about all families and keeping all families together and working with all families, there were some families they did not care much about, those were poor families. They did not care if you were a waitress and you had to provide child care for your child and you had financial constraints, and you had to get them to the soccer game. They did not care if you were a maid or a janitor. They did not care if you were making minimum wage trying to afford an apartment so your children had a roof over their heads. They did not care about you, they cut you out. In the dark of the night, they cut you out.
But can Members imagine that they did not care about our men and women overseas in Iraq? They did not care about them either. They did not care about our military families. They said it is great, they are doing a great job. They are so brave, but they did not care about the children, they did not care about those families because they caught cut those families out of the child tax credit also.
So let us say, for example, that I am the wife who is staying home with the two kids while my husband is in Iraq. I have no problems, I have no financial constraints. They are over there, the President declared a victory on that aircraft carrier, but my husband is still in Iraq. By the way, every day someone is killed out there. It could be my husband; but I do not have any problems. I do not have any anxieties. The Republicans did not care about those families. I do not have to get my kids to soccer or worry about their education. I do not have to worry about additional child care or taking them over to my mom or something to take care of because my husband is not here. He is serving his country. He is keeping our freedoms safe. But the Republicans did not care about that kind of family.
Okay, we would anticipate that they would not care about poor families; but could we anticipate that they would not care about military families? I am sitting there as a wife, and I have got no problems. But somebody who makes $80,000 a year, they got the child tax credit, not me. Not my children, not my husband. And then they said oh, they got caught. People figured it out. So they put it back in, but not all of them. There are still military families cut out because they make too little money. But in order to put some of the families back, they put in more tax cuts for people who make $100,000 a year and $150,000 a year and $3 million a year, but not someone who makes $10,000 a year or someone who makes $14,000. Those families do not count. Those children are not important enough.
Mr. Speaker, they have no problems. They have no financial anxiety. Remember why we wanted this child tax credit, to ensure that families could come together and work together and be together. That is why we wanted the child tax credit.
Madam Speaker, when I first saw the headlines of the bill, I looked at the bill, it came across my desk, because everybody wants to do something about small business. I first said to my staff, let's…
Madam Speaker, when I first saw the headlines of the bill, I looked at the bill, it came across my desk, because everybody wants to do something about small business. I first said to my staff, let's get on this bill; it will help small business. But then after I read it a second time and a third time, the devil is always in the details. The devil is in the fine print. The devil is in what you read.
When I really read the bill, I found that this bill would actually be devastating; it is what we call short-term gain for long-term pain. When you look over the years, the pain that really will happen to people who we are trying to help in the long-term will be devastating. Then when I looked even a little bit closer and tried to watch it to see how it affected those low-wage earners that my colleague just talked about and minorities and women in particular, then I noticed another substantial devastating event, the fact that what this bill does because many of the people that we want to help, they happen to be minority and women and how they disproportionately will be affected by this bill.
In fact, when you look at it, certain diseases because of people who are of color, Latino and African American, you look at approximately 2.8 million or 13 percent of all African Americans and 2 million or 10.2 percent of all Latino Americans have diabetes. They would not be covered under this. They could be cherrypicked. African American men have a 20 percent higher incident rate and a 40 percent higher death rate from all forms of cancer combined than white men do. They will be affected by this bill disproportionately. African American women with breast cancer are 67 percent more likely to die from the disease than Caucasians. They will be disproportionately affected under this cherrypicking, what this bill will do to them.
Hispanics experience the highest invasive cervical cancer incidence rates of any group other than Vietnamese. They will be hurt and devastated by this. Hispanics account for nearly one-fifth of HIV/AIDS cases in the United States. African Americans account for approximately 35 percent of HIV/AIDS cases in the United States. They will not be covered. They will not be picked up by these folks.
Now, more than ever, minority populations and women depend on health care. H.R. 660 stands to make this needed health care harder for those populations to obtain in the long run, not in the short run. In fact, most States require insurance to cover cancer screenings, maternity, diabetes treatment, and other benefits that provide medical care for minorities and women. However, Federal AHP legislation would allow certain insurers to avoid complying with these State laws. This means a loss of crucial benefits for many families, that 1 million that we hear my other colleagues talking about.
While our Nation is faced with a new health care crisis, H.R. 660 is not the solution. It is absolutely not the solution. We must work to pass legislation that offers genuine relief to small employers while preserving the significant health care reforms undertaken by the States. I urge my colleagues to voice their opposition to H.R. 660, the so-called Small Business Health Fairness Act.
Madam Speaker, one of the issues about which my constituents most frequently contact me is the high cost of health insurance and the need for affordable insurance coverage. We all know health…
Madam Speaker, one of the issues about which my constituents most frequently contact me is the high cost of health insurance and the need for affordable insurance coverage. We all know health insurance premiums are increasing significantly each year. As such, many small businesses are unable to afford health insurance for their employees. Furthermore, for those who can afford insurance for their employees, rising costs make U.S. products more expensive, harming U.S. competitiveness and costing American jobs.
Just last month I received a letter in my office written by a small business owner in Palm Bay, Florida. In it he wrote, ``As an independent businessman, I can only afford the most basic of health insurance policies for myself, of which premiums have gone up over 100 percent in the past two years, I might add. I sacrifice greatly to insure myself. But it is getting to the point I may not be able to afford health insurance myself.'' I know he is not alone. We have all heard similar stories.
Small businesses are the backbone of our economy, but the financial viability of many small businesses is being hurt by the escalating costs of health insurance. This hurts job creation and economic growth. The U.S. Small Business Administration's Office of Advocacy found that administrative expenses for small health plans make up about 35 percent of total costs. This is not good for small business owners, their employees, or the American economy. Congress must address this problem, which is why I support H.R. 660, the Small Business Health Fairness Act.
By passing H.R. 660 Congress will be leveling the playing field between small businesses, the self-employed and large corporations. This allows organizations of individuals and businesses to enter into an Association Health Plan (AHP). Under an AHP, small businesses can pool their resources and purchase health care similar to the way large corporations do. They can get better bargaining power in terms of costs and benefits for their employees. It gives workers, who do not have health insurance today, the opportunity to obtain health insurance coverage.
Whether it is a small business, a trade association, a farm bureau, or a local community organization that is seeking to purchase more affordable health insurance, this legislation will help them.
It is generally accepted that there are 41 million people in America without health insurance at any given time. According to the Congressional Budget Office, a more accurate estimate of the number of people who were uninsured for all of an entire year is 21 million to 31 million. Regardless, almost 60 percent of those individuals are employed by a small business. As health care costs increase, fewer and fewer employers and working families will be able to afford coverage, and more Americans will be without adequate health insurance. Those who work for small businesses should have the same type of access to quality health insurance that their counterparts in large corporations already enjoy.
I urge Congress to pass H.R. 660. Congress must pass this bipartisan legislation to give much needed relief to American small businesses, farmers, and hard working families.
Madam Speaker, I rise today to speak against the bill being considered today. With over 41 million Americans uninsured, Congress' chief objective should be to ensure that these people have access to…
Madam Speaker, I rise today to speak against the bill being considered today. With over 41 million Americans uninsured, Congress' chief objective should be to ensure that these people have access to quality health care coverage. However, today we consider legislation that actually would be an even greater detriment to the current health insurance coverage crisis, than doing nothing at all.
The Congressional Budget Office estimates that over 4 million individuals who currently have health coverage will be switched to lower benefit Association Health Plans (AHP) if this bill is passed. This means that these individuals could be forced into plans that would exclude benefits such as mammography screening, cervical cancer screening, check-ups for children, bone marrow transplants and diabetic supplies. These are critical needs, not options and this is an unfair result.
Another flaw with this bill is that it doesn't actually help small employers. The problem for most small employers is not their lack of desire to provide healthcare coverage, but often the lack of cash flow to afford monthly healthcare coverage. However, this bill does not assist small employers or their employees to afford rising monthly healthcare premiums. CBO found that the small businesses most likely to get more affordable coverage with lower premiums under AHPs would be those with the healthiest groups of employees. What this means is that least healthy, older employees and their employers would have higher premiums. This is just plain cherry-picking, which only puts the rest of non-AHP employees at risk of higher rates of coverage.
The CBO also estimates that AHPs would provide coverage for less than one percent (1 percent) of the 41 million uninsured Americans. As such, H.R. 660 fails to significantly expand health coverage for the uninsured and in fact, would reduce coverage for those who are currently insured by forcing them to switch to lower benefit AHP health plans. This will drive up the costs for other insured and will result in the loss of affordable health care coverage for at least 1,000,000 employees. This represents a net loss, not a net gain in helping the 41 million uninsured in this country.
Any bill that excludes significant health care benefits, especially for women, children and the elderly; that does not significantly expand health coverage for the uninsured; and that may allow minority communities and the elderly to be redlined and denied affordable health insurance, is ``fig leaf'' legislation which will do little to nothing to meet the needs of those small business employers it alleges to help.
Every American, despite his/her employer deserves to have first-class health coverage. This bill does not accomplish this goal--which explains why it is opposed by over 500 groups, including the AFL-CIO, AFSCME, the National Governors' Association, many State Attorneys General and many consumer organizations. I lend my voice to this opposition and urge my colleagues to vote against H.R. 660.
Madam Speaker, this Member wishes to add his strong support for the Small Business Health Fairness Act of 2003 (H.R. 660) which would allow small business owners to band together across state lines…
Madam Speaker, this Member wishes to add his strong support for the Small Business Health Fairness Act of 2003 (H.R. 660) which would allow small business owners to band together across state lines through associations to purchase health insurance for families and employees.
This Member would like to commend the distinguished gentleman from Ohio [Mr. Boehner], the Chairman of the House Committee on Education and the Workforce, and the distinguished gentleman from California [Mr. Miller], the ranking member of the House Committee on Education and the Workforce for bringing this important resolution to the House Floor today; this issue is very timely as this week is Small Business Week. This Member would also like to commend the distinguished gentleman from Kentucky [Mr. Fletcher] for sponsoring H.R. 660.
Over the past several years, we have witnessed significant changes in our health care system. Congress, employers, and the American people are currently searching for ways to control the cost of health care. In doing so, it is important that we do not compromise access and quality. This Member believes that Congress must evaluate three key areas when considering heath care proposals: affordability so that people can purchase health care that best fits their needs; accountability, so patients are guaranteed the quality they were promised; and accessibility, so millions more Americans can receive high-quality health care coverage that best fits their personal and family needs.
Access to affordable health insurance is a major problem for many of the 26 million uninsured Americans who live in families supported by the self-employed or small business employees. Professional societies and trade associations have tried to fill that void by offering health insurance plans to their members. Unfortunately, the myriad of state regulations and mandatory coverage requirements make it very difficult, expensive, and often impossible to offer coverage in all 50 states. If health insurance is not affordable it's not accessible.
The Small Business Health Fairness Act is intended to enhance the purchasing power of small businesses so that they could purchase such insurance more cheaply, and thereby provide health insurance coverage to more people. The association health plans created by the measure would be exempt from health insurance regulations of the various states. Thus, under the bill, these association health plans could operate in different states but would not be subject to the different health insurance regulations of those states. Instead they would be subject to regulation by the Labor Department. Similar association health plan language has been included in patient protection bills that Congress has recently considered. This Member has always supported these proposals.
Madam Speaker, in closing, this Member urges his colleagues to support H.R. 660.
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[H. Res. 283 Engrossed in House (EH)]
In the House of Representatives, U.S.,
June 19, 2003.
Resolved, That upon the adoption of this resolution it shall be in order
without intervention of any point of order to consider in the House the bill
(H.R. 660) to amend title I of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of
1974 to improve access and choice for entrepreneurs with small businesses with
respect to medical care for their employees. The bill shall be considered as
read for amendment. The amendment recommended by the Committee on Education and
the Workforce now printed in the bill shall be considered as adopted. The
previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill, as amended, and on
any further amendment thereto to final passage without intervening motion
except--
(1) one hour of debate on the bill, as amended, equally divided and
controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee
on Education and the Workforce;
(2) the further amendment printed in the report of the Committee on
Rules accompanying this resolution, if offered by Representative Kind of
Wisconsin or his designee, which shall be in order without intervention
of any point of order, shall be considered as read, and shall be
separately debatable for one hour equally divided and controlled by the
proponent and an opponent; and
(3) one motion to recommit with or without instructions.
Attest:
Clerk.