Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 4837) making appropriations for military construction, family housing, and base realignment and closure for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2005, and for other purposes.
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Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
July 21, 2004 • 12:30 PM
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Introduced in House
July 20, 2004
The House Committee on Rules reported an original measure, H. Rept. 108-621, by Mrs. Myrick.
July 20, 2004
Rule provides for consideration of H.R. 4837 with 1 hour of general debate. Previous question shall be considered as ordered without intervening motions except motion to recommit with or without instructions. Measure will be read by paragraph. Bill is open to amendments.
July 20, 2004 • 7:39 PM
Placed on the House Calendar, Calendar No. 210.
July 20, 2004
Considered as privileged matter. (consideration: CR H6449-6457)
July 21, 2004 • 10:29 AM
DEBATE - The House proceeded with one hour of debate on H. Res. 732.
July 21, 2004 • 10:32 AM
POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS - The Chair put the question on adoption of the previous question and by voice vote, announced that the ayes had prevailed. Mr. Frost demanded the Yeas and Nays and the Chair postponed further proceedings on the question of adoption of the previous question and a possible subsequent roll call vote on adoption of the resolution until later in the legislative day.
July 21, 2004 • 11:41 AM
Considered as unfinished business. (consideration: CR H6458-6459)
July 21, 2004 • 11:52 AM
On ordering the previous question Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: 217 - 197 (Roll no. 400). (consideration: CR H6448)
July 21, 2004 • 12:14 PM
Passed/agreed to in House: On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by recorded vote: 212 - 211 (Roll no. 401).(text: CR H6449)
July 21, 2004 • 12:30 PM
On agreeing to the resolution Agreed to by recorded vote: 212 - 211 (Roll no. 401). (text: CR H6449)
July 21, 2004 • 12:30 PM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
July 21, 2004 • 12:30 PM
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2 votes recorded • Roll call available
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Floor Debate
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Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman, I would like to bring Members back up to date on what has happened on the legislation which we started considering yesterday. This bill…
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to bring Members back up to date on what has happened on the legislation which we started considering yesterday.
This bill funds military construction, which includes a lot of quality of life programs for our military men and women and their families. The funding level is $10 billion, and I am disappointed that the actual funding level is only a 1.6 percent increase over military construction last year, which after inflation is actually a real cut in military construction funding during a time of war.
I think that is inexcusable given our war in Afghanistan and Iraq. This bill appropriates $489 million below what we actually spent for military construction 2 years ago before the Iraqi war even began. And even worse, it is $900 million below what President Bush said would be needed this year, just 12 months ago when he made that prediction.
Despite the fact that we are actually increasing military construction, not even enough funds to make up for inflation, we have 39,000 Army families living in inadequate housing, 34,000 Army barracks are inadequate, 70 percent of Army facilities are C-3 or C-4, which means they are mission impaired, 16,000 Navy and Marine Corps families live in inadequate housing, 31,000 Air Force families live in inadequate housing.
Given this inadequate allocation to address the real priority of military housing and construction and quality of life programs, I commend the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg). He has worked in a thorough and fair manner to take what is a wholly inadequate amount of funding for military construction and to spend that money as wisely and fairly and as carefully as possible, and I salute him in that effort.
The best thing about this bill, at least in this moment, is it prevents a looming crisis in military housing construction. That crisis is, if we do not allow an amendment passed by the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg) in this bill to stay in this bill, this November we are going to put a freeze immediately on 24,000 new military homes throughout the United States, and that will delay by another year homes for another 26,000 military families next year.
So we are going to basically either freeze or delay new housing for 50,000 military families across 22 States, even recognizing some of those families have loved ones serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
To recap further, unfortunately yesterday the House leadership strong-armed an atrocious rule through this House, a rule that I consider to be a slap in the face of every military family in America, a rule that took 20 to 25 minutes of extra arm twisting so it could pass by one vote. That rule, pushed by the Speaker and the majority leader, will allow one Member out of 435 in this House in the next few moments to basically kill our effort to resolve the military housing crisis, and every Member of the House who voted on that rule knew exactly what was going to happen when they voted for it.
I find it unbelievable that the same House leadership that just 2 months ago on the day that the Armed Services bill put a cap on this bill at the same level that will force this crisis, on that very same day the House leadership supported a $69 billion tax cut that will give Members of Congress a tax cut.
So here we are, the leadership is pushing tax cuts for Members of Congress, they can find time to rename dozens of post offices, they can find the money to push the $69 billion tax cut, but when it comes to protecting a promise of better housing for our military men and women and their families, the House leadership sadly and unfairly said, no, we cannot do that.
I yield to the gentleman from Washington.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Dicks).
Six thousand new Army homes.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for his eloquent comments and his leadership and strong support for better quality housing for our families.
I want to summarize where we are. Basically, the same House leadership that said just 2 months ago on the same day we refused to increase the cap so 50,000 new military families over the next 2 years could get new housing, in the same day they push through a $69 billion tax cut that is going to give me a $2,000 tax break.
We could afford the tax break for Members of Congress but we could not afford to take care of our promise of better housing for military families.
Now, the gentleman talked about a poke in the eye. The final poke in the eye is this is not the only bad news that the servicemen and women and veterans are going to hear today, because the same leadership that could support the tax cuts for Members of Congress could not find a way to improve housing and fund that program for military families, the most important effective housing improvement program for our military in our Nation's history. Guess what, in the Committee on Appropriations today we voted out a veterans' health care appropriations bill that basically, well, let me tell you what the National Commander of Disabled American Veterans says about it.
``To the veterans of this Nation it is incomprehensive that our government cannot afford to fund their medical care and benefits programs at a time it can afford generous tax cuts costing hundreds of billions of dollars more.''
The American Legion, the DAV, the VFW all went on to say that the leadership-pushed veterans' health care bill today is going to cut, after inflation, real veterans' health care services by $1.3 billion.
Now with the action of the leadership yesterday on the rule and one Member of the House today, we will say to 50,000 military families, we will break our promise to you of better housing.
I think that is a terrible message for us to send our military families. While we go on a month long recess and vacation they are sitting there looking at veterans' health care cuts and frozen programs.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Let me put a face on these people.
We are talking about 1,194 military families at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Alaska will next year have their housing delayed. In New York at Fort Drum, 2,272 military families, many of whom had loved ones that had already served in Iraq, will have their housing program this year frozen. In Florida, Eglin and Hurlburt Air Force Bases 2,739 military families will have their housing promises broken. In Virginia 1,268 families at Langley. In Texas, Sheppard Air Force Base 1,288 families.
This is one more broken promise to our military families at a time when they are making incredible sacrifices to our country.
What it does, we talked about a 1.6 percent increase for military construction in this bill, but the truth is that once this objection is raised then that will not allow us to even spend that meager amount of funding for our housing program. So we could end up with an actual cut not only in veterans' health care during a time of war this year, we could end up with an actual cut in military construction during a time of war. That is unconscionable coming from a leadership that said we could afford to give Members of Congress a tax cut just 2 months ago.
Mr. Chairman, let me first say that I worked for 6 months on a bipartisan basis, talking to everyone from the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle), the chairman of the Committee on the Budget; and the chairman of the authorizing committee to try to solve this in a bipartisan manner behind the scenes. At every step of the way for 6 months people said, well, it will get done, it will get done.
The problem is, we are about to take our August recess and it is not done.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding.
First, let me respond to the gentleman from California's (Mr. Lewis) comments that both parties, every Member cares about our troops. I absolutely agree with that. In fact, let me repeat the statement I made on the floor yesterday on this subject, and I quote myself, ``Every one of us, Democrat and Republican alike, genuinely respects the service and sacrifice of our troops and their families. No one should doubt that fact, but I strongly believe our budget priorities should better reflect that respect.''
Those were my comments. Let me talk about partisanship.
It was the Republican leadership that shoved through a rule last night or on the floor yesterday that was done on a partisan basis. In fact, it was so partisan they had to leave the vote open an extra 20, 25 minutes to, on a partisan basis, force Republicans or convince Republicans to vote against their own interests in their own districts to support a rule that is allowing 50,000 military family housing to be put at risk.
Secondly, the Committee on the Budget, as I last recall, and I am a member of that committee, put together its budget on a partisan basis. That is where the partisanship came in, if it came in at all.
But to totally put to bed any idea that this is a partisan issue, I have letters.
Mr. Chairman, the Air Force Association sent a letter to the chairman of the Committee on Rules asking them to not pass the rule that they did.
The Association of the U.S. Army, a letter signed by General Gordon Sullivan, former chief of staff for the Army, put in there that ``RCI,'' the Army's housing program, ``has a tremendous positive impact on quality of life for our soldiers.
``I would ask that you work to ensure the amendment'' to protect housing ``is protected by the Rules Committee and reaches the House floor.''
The Military Officers Association of America asks that the House leadership not shove through a partisan rule that would be unfair to military families.
So did the National Military Family Association.
I do not think any of our colleagues would suggest that the Association of the U.S. Army and the Military Officers Association of America and these other military organizations are acting out of a partisan basis. This does not have anything to do with partisanship. It has to do with standing up for fairness for military families who are making an incredible sacrifice for the American family during a time of war; and in doing so, I will not hesitate to stand up to the Republican leadership of this House which shoved through a rule that is going to allow this housing to be put at risk, and I will not hesitate to stand up to any Democrats who would hesitate in fully supporting military housing.
We all support our troops, but we have an opportunity by passing this bill without a point of order to do something tangible about it. Good intentions, goodwill do not provide better housing for 50,000 military families. Passing this bill, as we passed it out of committee in a bipartisan fashion, that is the way to make a difference for military families who are so deserving of this support.
Mr. Chairman, I do.
Mr. Chairman, what a difference 1 hour makes. Less than 1 hour ago on this floor the House of Representatives passed a rule for the defense appropriations bill which waives all points of order against that bill, and yet because the House leadership instructed the Committee on Rules and twisted arms to force many Republican House members to vote on a bill that does not protect a point of order on this, because of that decision, inconsistent with a rule we just passed in this House by unanimous vote less than 60 minutes ago, because of that we are basically going to put at risk the most important military housing improvement program in American history, a program that does not only improve housing and show respect in a tangible way to men and women and families, to children who are making incredible sacrifices for our country, but a measure that is saving taxpayers billions of dollars by building these houses more efficiently.
In a House that ignores technicalities every single day to carry out priorities much less important than quality military housing for our families during a time of war, we are going to put this incredibly important program at risk.
Finally, I want to say this. Let us be clear, this is not today just an action of one person, the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle). I respect the gentleman. He is a person of principle. I might disagree with the debate on fiscal responsibility when we voted 2 months ago for a $69 billion tax cut that helps Members of Congress and today we cannot afford to take care of a few thousand military families' housing, but I do respect him. He is a person of deep principle.
This is not just an action of the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle). This was an action which was allowed and encouraged by the House leadership by forcing an unfair rule through this House, a rule that was opposed by the Military Officers Association of America, the Association of the U.S. Army, the Air Force Association, and the National Military Family Association.
This action is also something that was allowed by 212 votes, a passage of that rule by one vote, 212 to 211. One Member changing his or her vote, and we could have prevented this tragedy from happening today.
Mr. Chairman, I would urge the gentleman to consider not recognizing the technicality raised here that will harm tens of thousands of military families during a time of war.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I would just like to read into the Record the States and the specific military installations that have just had a guarantee of new housing for their military families taken away from them. Perhaps we will solve this another day. I have been trying to work for 6 months on a bipartisan basis to get this resolved. I am not sure this late in the Congress I have tremendous confidence that it will get resolved, but the real pity is that we could have resolved it today if the leadership had let go through the Committee on Rules the exact same rule we unanimously approved on the military appropriations bill just an hour ago.
The States that have just lost a chance because of this technicality that were allowed by the rule pushed by the leadership that will lose a guarantee to have new military housing for their service men and women are Alabama, Alaska, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, Virginia and Wyoming.
To add to the military installations I had already mentioned a few moments ago that will either have their housing frozen this year and, in fact, a promise broken to those military families or have their housing expected in 2006 to be delayed a year would include Fort Knox, Kentucky, 3,380 military families affected by this technical ruling. Fort Rucker in Alabama, 1,516 military families. Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, 1,580 military families. Keesler Air Force Base in Mississippi, 1,682 military families. New Mexico, Holloman Air Force Base, 1,440. Fort Gordon, Georgia, 872 families. Scott Air Force Base in Illinois, 475. MCB in Hawaii, Phase 1, 1,377 families will have their hopes for better housing dashed or delayed for a year or more. Camp Lejeune, an important Marine Corps installation in North Carolina, 838 families. In addition to an additional 3,516 families at Camp Lejeune that this year will have their new housing put on hold.
These are not just numbers and names, these are real men and women, real military families making unbelievable sacrifices in behalf of every family in this House and in our Nation that have just lost the opportunity because of an unfair rule opposed by numerous military organizations exercised, as the gentleman had the right to exercise, just a moment ago a technicality to kill that dream of a new home.
It is a shame that dream has been killed today. I certainly urge those who perhaps did not want it to be taken care of today to work together, and I will pledge to work together in good faith with them to try to solve it in the months ahead, but there was no reason not to give this promise today to our military people. They do not ask to be delayed when they are asked to serve their country. When they are asked to go to combat, they go. When we had an opportunity to stand up for them, we should not have been AWOL. We should not have delayed. We should have taken action. That is what is the most shameful thing about what has happened today on this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me.
Just a few minutes ago my colleagues on the other side of the aisle said we should work together in the days and months ahead to try to ensure the promise to our military families of better housing. I suggest we start right now, and it would be very simple, and we can send a clear message out to our families who have loved ones in harm's way that right now we are going to guarantee them the quality housing they are expecting.
All we need to do is take basically the exact same language that the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) put together in the bill he wrote yesterday and passed yesterday, which, by the way, was an example of what the leadership in this House can do when it wants to do something. Let us just adopt that same language in the gentleman from Wisconsin's (Mr. Obey) motion to recommit. It is the same language. What is the difference?
I tell the Members what the difference would be. If we would work together on a bipartisan basis right now not to object to this, we can send an important message to our troops out there and their loved ones that we are going to support them with better housing, especially during this time of war.
The language is the same. The gentleman's bill, H.R. 4879, that we passed yesterday that he talked about says we strike the number $850 million and insert $1.350 billion. The gentleman from Wisconsin's (Mr. Obey) motion to recommit that is now before the floor says let us go from $850 million to $1.3 billion on the limitation of military housing privatization programs. What is the difference?
Let us work together right now. Let us do the right thing. Let us not let a technicality prevent us from doing the right thing for tens of thousands of military families. We can do it together. We do not have to wait a week, a month, and the possibilities of what might or might not happen then. We can doing it right now. I urge this House to do so.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, I first want to commend the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) for his dedication to improving the quality of life…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I first want to commend the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) for his dedication to improving the quality of life for our military families. His commitment is genuine, and his work on this bill has been thorough and fair, along with the work of his staff. At every step of the way, the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) has put the interests of our service men and women above all other interests. I commend him for that, and he deserves our thanks and respect for that.
Given what I believe is an inadequate allocation for this subcommittee, a 1.6 percent increase in military construction funds during a time of war, an allocation that is nearly a half a billion dollars below what we spent on military construction before the Iraqi war began 2 years ago, given all of that, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg), the subcommittee, and I have worked together to try to maximize the use of these inadequate tax dollars to benefit our troops, and that is why I intend to vote for this bill.
I am also pleased that we have been able to address, as long as no Member of the House objects to it, what could have been a terrible injustice to our military families. Eight years ago, we began a new approach to military housing. We combined Federal dollars with the strengths and resources of the private sector to create public-private partnerships to improve military housing.
This innovative program is saving taxpayers billions of dollars and dramatically improving housing for our military families. Housing that would have taken 50 years to build under the old system is now being done in one-tenth of that time, in 5 years. Through this public-private partnership, we are providing military families with housing that they can be proud of, and certainly they deserve no less.
Unfortunately, the Congressional Budget Office changed the scoring on this process. In my opinion, they erroneously are scoring dollars that businesses borrow to help build these new homes, even though the Federal Government is not responsible for those dollars. OMB disagrees with CBO's approach, and so do I.
Had we, in this committee, on a bipartisan basis under the leadership of the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) not raised the cap on the public-private military housing program, new housing projects would have come to a halt this November, just a few months away, shutting out over 24,000 military families from new houses in fiscal year 2005 and then delaying an additional 25,000 or so, for an impact on almost 50,000 military families in the next 2 years. That would have sent a terrible message to our military families during a time of war. It is also a good reason for no Member to object on a procedural basis, a technical point, against this amendment.
As a member of the Committee on the Budget, I would point out that I made an effort this spring to solve this problem. The Committee on the Budget refused to solve the problem. I then talked to members of the Committee on the Budget and urged them to meet and work with the Committee on Armed Services to address the problem. The Committee on Armed Services did address it for fiscal year 2006, but did not do it for 2005. Had we failed to act in this subcommittee on this bill, it would have been the third strike. Instead, this subcommittee took the responsibility on a bipartisan basis to address this housing crisis.
Mr. Chairman, I want to commend the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) once again for his strong efforts on this particular important issue. It also could not have been done without the strong leadership of the gentleman from Florida (Chairman Young) and the Committee on Appropriations and its subcommittee staffs.
If any Member of this House who objects to the increase in the cap on military housing and the directed scoring allows that to happen, let me explain clearly, Mr. Chairman, what the impact will be. Tens of thousands of military families that are planning right now on having new housing built starting next year will have those promises broken, those promises dashed, even families who have loved ones fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.
If we do that, it would be a grave injustice to men and women and families who are making incredible sacrifices on behalf of our children.
Considering the fact that the Committee on Rules allows protection against technical points of order every week in this Congress, on a regular basis, for unimportant issues as well as important issues, surely if there was ever a reason to put the interests of military families above the interests of technical points of order, today should be the day, and better housing for those families should be the reason.
Mr. Chairman, I would be remiss not to mention my disappointment concerning the overall funding level in this bill. Our Nation is at war. Our service men and women are risking their lives in Iraq, Afghanistan, and throughout the world. Military families are making great, great personal sacrifices for the American family. Yet, this bill spends $420 million less on military construction than we spent prior to the Iraqi war. So Congress, in effect, is asking for more from our troops and military families, while spending less on military construction. That does not make sense.
It does not pass the fairness test because it means we are shortchanging military housing, day care centers, training ranges, and military work facilities. That is not right.
If we can make significant new commitments to defense spending and highway spending and countless other programs, why can we not provide more than a 1.6 percent increase in military construction, which is so important to our troops' quality of life and their training and working conditions, especially during a time of war?
In March of last year, as American troops were making the final plans to commence the war in Iraq, the majority leader, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) spoke to bankers and said this: ``Nothing is more important in the face of war than cutting taxes.'' In all due respect to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay), that flawed ideology would be hard to explain to the nearly 400,000 Army soldiers I represent at Fort Hood, Texas, nearly 40,000 soldiers who have been asked to serve in Iraq just this year. It would be hard to explain to their spouses and children who have to worry every day whether their loved ones will ever return home.
I believe most Americans, as they did after Pearl Harbor would say, you know what? Supporting our troops and their families during a time of war is far more important than tax cuts, especially if some of those tax cuts benefit Members of Congress, like us. Unfortunately, the inadequate allocation in this bill reflects the ideology of the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) rather than the quintessential American value of shared sacrifice during a time of war.
By increasing defense construction spending by only 1.6 percent, not even enough to keep up with inflation, in effect, in that way, it is a real cut in military construction and quality-of-life programs. It spends $420 million, as I said, less than we spent 2 years ago before the Iraq war even began, and even $900 million less in this bill that the administration, the Bush administration, said was needed for military construction just 12 months ago.
If anyone thinks this allocation was not decided by the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg) or me or this committee, but was decided by a higher pay grade in this House leadership, if anyone thinks this allocation we had to deal with is adequate, let me remind them of some of the facts provided by the Department of Defense: Number one, 39,000 Army families live in inadequate housing; number two, 34,000 Army barracks do not meet even basic Department of Defense standards; number three, 16,000 Navy and Marine Corps families live in inadequate housing; number four, 31,000 Air Force families live in inadequate housing; number five, 70 percent of Army facilities are C-3 or C-4, which means mission impaired; number six, 66 percent, two- thirds, of Air Force facilities are C-3 or C-4, again meaning that the mission of those facilities could be impaired.
Just a month ago, the House voted for a new $69 billion tax break that will not help our military families, but it will just happen to provide a $1,000 tax credit to Members of Congress such as myself for every child that we have. So I will receive a $2,000 tax credit as a result of that bill that the House voted for, over my objection, 2 months ago.
Now, how can we look today in the faces of our service men and women, look them in the eye and say, last month we could afford to pass a $69 billion child tax credit that applies to people making between $110,000 and $250,000 a year, but today, we cannot even afford 5 percent of that amount to provide a decent increase in military construction funding for military families making $20,000 and $30,000 a year. I just do not see the fairness in that.
Every one of us, Mr. Chairman, Democrat and Republican alike, genuinely respects the service and sacrifices of our troops and their families. No one, no one should doubt that. But I strongly believe that it is time that our budget priorities in Congress should better reflect that respect. Our service men and women deserve no less.
Despite the objections I have to the underfunding of this, despite my concern that perhaps a Member of Congress, for whatever reason, well- intentioned or not, might strike an amendment that would literally freeze the most important military housing program ever, because of the strong leadership of the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg), because of the bipartisan way in which he worked this bill, because of his deep commitment and our committee's work to spend an inadequate amount of dollars as efficiently as we possibly could, I intend to vote for this legislation.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Farr), a very effective and hard-working member of the Subcommittee on Military Construction.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 4 minutes.
Mr. Chairman, again, I applaud this subcommittee for addressing a very serious crisis in military housing that will occur just a few months from now if we do not include the language that was added in the amendment.
To be specific about it, let me just say to my colleagues, Mr. Chairman, some of the families and the numbers of families, the different locations of military installations that will be affected if a Member of the House were to raise a point of order against this housing measure that we added: In New York at Fort Drum, 2,272 families would have their new housing put on hold. I believe Fort Drum has played an important role in the Iraqi war.
In Pennsylvania, 316 families at the Carlisle Barracks would have their new
housing put on hold. At Fort Bliss in Texas, 2,776 families would have their housing put on hold. At Eglin Air Force Base in Florida, 2,739 military families would see the promise of new housing for them broken. At Lackland Air Force Base in Texas, 914 families would lose the promise of new housing. At Langley in Virginia, the State of Virginia, 1,268 families would have their new housing denied them.
Sheppard Air Force Base, 1,288 families in Texas would lose that improved housing. New Jersey, 2,415 at McGuire Air Force Base in Fort Dix. Those are not numbers. That is 2,415 military families making sacrifices for our country who would see their housing dreams go down the tubes.
Let us look at Florida, Georgia and South Carolina, the Southeast and Eastern Navy projects: 6,076 families would have a ``no'' said to them in regard to new housing. How about Twentynine Palms in California, 1,382 families. Well, let us look at Camp Lejeune. Obviously they have made tremendous sacrifices, those machines, that installation as part of our war on terrorism; 3,516 of those families would be told no. Congress could afford to vote in the month of May for a $69 billion tax cut that gave Members of Congress a tax break, but we cannot afford to give you new housing this year during time of war; we have got to put a freeze on your new housing.
Well, let us go down to Georgia. People at Fort Benning have made tremendous sacrifices for our country. They would actually lose 4,055 new military housing under the freeze if any Member of this House objects to the amendment we put in the bill.
At Fort Benning, actually they would not lose it this year. They are planning on getting their new housing next year. They have been told they will not even get their new housing next year, because that will have to be pushed back a year because of the freeze that would occur on military housing this year. Fort Knox, Kentucky, would be in that similar situation. Their new housing for 3,380 military housing would be pushed back a year if any Member objects to what we did on a bipartisan basis in this committee.
Finally, Mr. Chairman, I want to just say the Military Officers Association of America, the Association of the United States Army, the Air Force Association, the National Military Family Association have all written letters asking this House on a bipartisan basis to protect the increase in the cap for military housing so we can show respect to our military families during time of war, not just with our words and our rhetoric but with our deeds and better housing.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Dicks), a tremendous leader in this Congress on defense issues and an important member of the Committee on Appropriations Subcommittee on Military Construction.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer).
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young) for his eloquent comments.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Ortiz), a senior and respected member of the Committee on Armed Services.
(Mr. ORTIZ asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 2 minutes.
I would just like to go back to the issue of the military housing program that is being protected in this bill unless a Member of the House objects to it.
I want, Mr. Chairman, all Members and all those watching to understand what is going to happen if anyone objects. First of all, 24,000 servicemen and -women and their families will have a promise broken to them. A promise to provide them with new housing is a show of respect for the tremendous sacrifices they are making for our country and the American family.
Secondly, and this I do not think has been discussed, while the present bill provides a 1.6 percent increase over military construction spending compared to a year ago, not even enough to keep up with inflation, the fact is that many of those dollars being appropriated in this bill will be prohibited from being spent if one Member of this House stands up and objects to our having solved the military housing cap problem.
So, in effect, you are not only saying, no, you are not only going to break the promise to 24,000 military families across this country; you are actually saying that in a time of war it is okay with you if the effect of your action is to actually cut military construction funding this year compared to last year because literally millions and millions of dollars that look like they are being appropriated will be nothing but an illusion, nothing but a false promise to our servicemen and - women, 40,000 of whom live in my district, nearly 20,000 of whom are in Iraq today.
No, Mr. Chairman. When our troops are asked to go into combat, they do not have an option of saying I will take care of that later. That is called AWOL.
Well, today, let us as Members of Congress not go AWOL when we have an opportunity to step up to the plate, and right now, not a week from now, not a month from now, not some false promise, let us vote now to support our military men and women and the better housing they deserve.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the remaining 1\1/2\ minutes.
This subcommittee worked on a genuine bipartisan basis to provide a better quality of life for military families. It worked on a bipartisan basis to address a looming crisis in military housing. Now the moment has come for us to decide if we want to support our troops, including troops in combat, with our rhetoric and with our hearts and with our deeds.
With all due respect to our hearts and our intentions and our goodwill, what matters to the 40,000 soldiers I have the privilege to represent at Fort Hood, Texas, is what Congress does with its deeds. Our responsibility today should be to say that in a time of war, it is of the utmost national priority and responsibility to take care of our military families who are sacrificing so much for all of us.
We need to pass this subcommittee bill as it was drafted and passed out of subcommittee, now out of full committee. We need to pass this bill on a bipartisan basis; and for that reason, I ask my colleagues not only to support this bill but to ask all of their colleagues not to be the one person in this House who stops the most important housing program ever for our military.
Finally, Mr. Chairman, I would ask one question to any Member who would have the gall to stand up and strike out this issue, and that is, 2 months ago, how did you vote on the $69 billion tax cut which included tax breaks for Members of Congress?
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, I rise to present the fiscal year 2005 military construction appropriations bill, which was reported out of the full committee…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I rise to present the fiscal year 2005 military construction appropriations bill, which was reported out of the full committee on appropriations on July 9 by voice vote.
Let me at the beginning thank all of the people who contributed to this bill, the subcommittee staff, and my ranking member, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards). I want to also call attention to some of the staff who did remarkable work to bring this bill forward: Carol Murphy, Walter Hearne, Eric Elsmo, Mary Arnold and, of course, Tom Forhan on the minority side.
The ultimate purpose of this bill is to support our service men and women by providing a quality of life commensurate with the sacrifices they are called upon to make. I want to thank each Member again of the subcommittee, because they did contribute greatly via, in some cases, CODELs to look at some of the housing, for example, around the country and around the world. I thank them for their hard work and support, and certainly I add to it again the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards), who has been a strong and vocal supporter of our men and women in the service for years.
The bill totals $10 billion, which is $162 million above the fiscal year 2004 enacted level and $450 million above the President's request. The bill also contains a general provision related to housing privatization that CBO scores as additional budget authority. I will get to that shortly. But let me emphasize that $10.003 billion is what the bill appropriates, and not a penny more.
Mr. Chairman, we are at war. Many will argue that in such a time as this, when so many of our servicemembers and their families are making great sacrifices, that this bill does not provide enough. In one respect, they are right. There is no question we could do more if we had more. But I think this bill does a lot of good things and provides our active, Guard, and Reserve servicemembers with critically needed infrastructure to meet their mission goals, and it improves housing and community facilities for their families.
That being said, I want to draw some attention now to the highlights of this bill. Within the total amount of $10 billion, the bill provides $5.3 billion for military construction, including $1.1 billion for troop barracks; $833 million for the Guard and Reserve component and other facilities such as schools, fitness centers, and child development centers.
The bill also provides $1.6 billion for family housing construction, including funding for about 18 to 24 privatization projects, depending upon the cost of those projects; $2.5 billion for family housing operations and maintenance; $246 million for costs related to past BRAC rounds; and $166 million for the NATO Security Investment Program.
In addition, the bill fully funds overseas military construction; it fully funds the chemical demilitarization construction program; it provides the requested funds for projects associated with new weapons systems, including the Army Stryker vehicle, the F-22 Raptor fighter jet, and the C-17 Globemaster cargo plane; and provides much needed funding for the Navy to continue replacing inadequate pier infrastructure.
Now I want to say a word or two about the family housing privatization program.
Mr. Chairman, a limitation on budget authority was placed on the program when it was first authorized in 1996. This $850 million cap was put in as a safeguard for what was then a new and untested program, a pilot program, if you will. Eight years later, the program has become one of the most successful programs we have ever had for improving the quality of life and morale of our troops and families.
This cap will be reached before the end of this year; and if action is not taken to increase the limitation in fiscal year 2005, progress on replacing substandard homes will be seriously hampered. Unfortunately, we have run into a scoring issue with the CBO, which has complicated the solving of this problem.
To my colleagues who are concerned about the impact that the provision would have on our budget deficit, I want to say this, and I may have to repeat this: this provision does not appropriate any new money. None. All the money that is needed to support privatization is already contained within the bill. All this provision does is raise the authorization to allow the program to continue. Not a single dime more will be drawn from the Treasury as a result of this provision.
The committee, frankly, disagrees with the new approach that CBO has decided to take to score the program. It does not reflect the reality of the program. To me, since the provision spends no new money, scoring is like building a bridge where there is no water.
Mr. Chairman, this is truly a vital program. To endanger it because of some bookkeeping disagreement would be unwise. I personally have seen the homes being built because of the program, and I have talked to military spouses about how their lives have improved because of this program. You might be interested in knowing twice the percentage of families that are in the military service are married as compared to, say, during the Vietnam War. This is a good program, it is a bipartisan program, and it is a necessary program.
CBO's rationale for how it scores this program is complex, convoluted, and unfounded. Every Member of Congress that I have talked to strongly supports this program, and I mean every Member. Every witness that testified before the subcommittee supports this program, including the Joint Chiefs and the military spouses. The chairman of the Committee on Armed Services supports this program. Even the administration, the White House, and the Department of Defense strongly support the provision and submitted statements to the committee that it would not result in any, any additional cost to the Federal Government. I have not heard from one single person that does not support this program.
If the housing privatization cap is not raised, then 16 projects covering 23 installations spanning 13 States will be affected in fiscal year 2005. The affected projects include major installations in California, Florida, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, South Carolina, Texas, and Virginia. A significant number of Members on both sides of the aisle will feel the impact on their military constituents.
Mr. Chairman, I ask my colleagues for their support of this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Granger), who is also a member of the subcommittee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Crenshaw), who is a member of the subcommittee as well.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Frelinghuysen), a member of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman
from Virginia (Mr. Goode), who is a member of the subcommittee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 8 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young), the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations.
Mr. Chairman, how much time remains?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Walsh), the chairman of the Subcommittee on VA, HUD and Independent Agencies of the Committee on Appropriations, and a member of this subcommittee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Hobson) who was previously the chairman of this committee for 4 years.
(Mr. HOBSON asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston), who is a member of the subcommittee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the remaining time.
I believe my colleagues can tell from the input that has been brought forward this afternoon and the contributions from everybody that everyone here feels very strongly about this issue, extremely strongly. In fact, I think about the work that this subcommittee has done. We have always striven to do things in a fashion that
represents actually what ends up being a bipartisan effort, but we actually do not seek that necessarily. It is just that what we are doing is for the common good of our military, and it seems to be appropriate then that it all works out in our favor.
This, I believe, is a fair bill. It is a good bill. We worked with some monetary restrictions. That is something that has to happen over here. It happens all the time.
The other thing I would say, this is, as the chairman has mentioned, a must-pass bill. We cannot think about it and talk about it, but it has got to pass. It is one of the requirements of this committee.
So I would simply say that this, with input that we have got, with the feeling being 100 percent in terms of supporting this measure, that we are in a position to carry out what it is that the troops want. They deserve better housing. This bill promises better housing; and in fact, it does something about the inadequate housing, too, that has become a major problem because the goal of the military is to get those inadequate housing situations out of the picture by 2007. To crimp this, it would simply crimp what we are trying to do here.
So I would urge everybody to support this bill. It is a good bill, and I thank everybody.
Mr. Chairman, I move that the Committee do now rise.
Mr. Speaker, this rule is a slap in the face to America's military families. They have a right to be outraged, and they will be when they find out what happens on the House floor today. This rule…
Mr. Speaker, this rule is a slap in the face to America's military families. They have a right to be outraged, and they will be when they find out what happens on the House floor today.
This rule says to our military families, many of them who have loved ones serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, that the House Republican leadership has made tax cuts for Members of Congress this year a higher priority than better housing for military families.
With this rule, we put at risk the most important military housing program in American history, the public-private initiative. To do so any time would be wrong. To do so during a time of war is unconscionable.
The gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hastert) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) owe our military families and all who respect them an answer to one question: Why is it that you can support just 2 months ago on this House Floor a $69 billion tax break that benefits Members of Congress, but today, we cannot afford to continue our military housing program for 50,000 military families?
Perhaps the answer was given by the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) in his speech to bankers in March of 2003, just 1 week before the Iraqi war began, when he said this: ``Nothing is more important in the face of war than cutting taxes.'' Nothing is more important in the face of war than cutting taxes.
I would like to invite the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) and the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hastert) to Fort Hood in my district, which has sent nearly 40,000 Army soldiers to Iraq this year alone, to explain why they can bring to the House Floor 2 months ago a bill that cut taxes for Members of Congress making $157,000-plus a year, but they cannot find a way today to protect the most important military housing program ever for service men and women making $20,000 and $30,000 a year. Where is the fairness in that?
Is cutting taxes for Members of Congress while freezing military housing improvements for our troops the leadership's new definition of shared sacrifice during time of war? If so, it is a flawed definition.
Have our military families not sacrificed enough already? Why should 50,000 military families in 22 States now have to sacrifice their dream of better military housing so we can help pay for a self-serving tax cut for Members of Congress?
What is happening today on this floor is an insult to the incredible sacrifices made by our service men and women.
Oh, and how times have changed for the worst. Instead of President Franklin Roosevelt asking all Americans to sacrifice after Pearl Harbor, the House leadership, in the midst of our war on terrorism, is saying with its words and its deeds that nothing is more important in the face of war than cutting taxes.
We are going to hear a lot of excuses today. We are going to hear that technicalities prevent us from preventing a
freeze on the most important military housing program ever. Baloney. The House Committee on Rules, with one phone call from the Speaker, could have done what it has done repeatedly in this Congress on 25 occasions: protect an important provision in this bill from a technical point of order. Unbelievably, unbelievably, that call was not made.
Unfortunately, the same House leadership that told the Committee on Rules to bring a tax cut, helping Members of Congress, to the floor 2 months ago, could not make that phone call to protect military families today. We will hear a lot of excuses about how, well, there are other ways to solve the military housing program crisis. Well, that is exactly what they are, excuses.
Those same Committee on the Budget members failed to solve this problem in the Committee on the Budget. Then they failed to work with the Committee on Armed Services to solve the problem for fiscal year 2005 in the Committee on Armed Services bill. That was two strikes. Now, when the Committee on Appropriations is trying to solve the problem in a bipartisan way and support our military families, these same folks want to prohibit us from doing so. Three strikes, and they are out.
Sadly, though, the people who will be left out in the cold are not Members of Congress who pretend to be fiscal hawks when it comes to funding military housing improvements, but turned into fiscal doves when it came to passing a $69 billion tax break that put money in our pockets. These same people will be leaving 50,000 military families in 22 States out in the cold.
We will hear excuses that military families will just have to wait for Members of Congress to have our 5-week vacation in July and August, and maybe the same House leaders we have who have ignored this housing crisis for the last 6 months will find a way to solve the problem, after campaign trips in August and beach vacations.
I would suggest that leaders in Congress who found the time to rename dozens of post offices this year and schedule tax cuts, votes on tax cuts for Members of Congress like me, maybe they should find the time to solve the military housing crisis now, before they go on vacation, before they make their dozens of campaign stops and fund-raising events in the month ahead. When it comes to solving a serious military housing crisis, the House Republican leadership has been AWOL.
Fortunately, there have been many Members such as the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young) and the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter) and others who have tried to come together to do the right thing.
Let me be clear. I am not asking the House Republican leadership, the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hastert) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) to put themselves today in harm's way like so many of the soldiers from Fort Hood in my district are in Iraq today. However, in all due respect, I would hope the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hastert) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) would support our troops by saying that, Do my colleagues know what? The military housing crisis should be solved before, not after, we take our 5-week August vacation.
Perhaps a little bit of shared sacrifice during a time of war is not too much to ask for our military families who have already made incredible sacrifices on behalf of the American family. After all, despite the statement of the gentleman from Texas (Mr. DeLay) that nothing is more important in the face of war than tax cuts, the vast majority of Americans would agree that there is something far more important than tax cuts, and especially tax cuts for Members of Congress during a time of war. It would be more important to support our troops and to support their loved ones, their families, to allow them to live in decent housing while they are giving up so much for our country.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, let me finish with this. There are moments when support for our military families ought to be more important than loyalty, blind loyalty to the House Speaker and the majority leader. I would suggest today is one of those times. During a time of war on terrorism, let us send a bipartisan vote and a message to our military families by saying, we are not going to go away on vacation in August until we solve the military housing crisis; and that, yes, the House leadership is not perfect, and today it is wrong to bring a rule to this floor that would help one person defeat the most important military housing program in American history.
The vote is what really counts, not our speeches today, and the vote will say this: What is more important, loyalty to the House Republican leadership or loyalty to the military men and women who are making such tremendous sacrifices on behalf of all Americans?
Mr. Speaker, I appreciate my Republican colleagues who genuinely supported improving military housing. But today the only vote that counts is a ``no'' vote against the rule, a rule that would allow one Member of this House to put on freeze during a time of war the most important military housing program in American history.
Let there be no surprise for anyone who votes for this rule that if our colleague, the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle), were to use his prerogative under this rule to kill this housing program, then, in effect, regardless of the good intentions, a ``yes'' vote for this rule is a ``no'' vote for better housing for tens of thousands of military families, even families who have loved ones serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Let us rise above loyalty to the House Speaker and to the majority leader. Let us once say together during time of war on a bipartisan basis, we are going to do what is right. And if that means voting against a dictate from the Speaker's office on how to vote for this rule so that we can join together to improve housing for military families, then that is the right thing to do.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Could I ask the gentleman to make it clear now to all House Members?
What the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost) has said is that if we defeat the previous question, then we can bring back the Military Construction appropriations bill today and pass it out of this House today in a way that protects this vitally important military housing improvement program. Is that correct? We were not talking about a 1- week or 2-week delay.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time. I rise in opposition to this rule, and I do so without disrespect at all to the gentlewoman. She is a very valuable Member of this…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time.
I rise in opposition to this rule, and I do so without disrespect at all to the gentlewoman. She is a very valuable Member of this Congress and a friend and someone who has worked hard to make sure that when we write budgets, when we determine spending priorities, that we adhere to them. And that is why I rise in opposition to this rule.
This bill breaches the spending limit made under the budget. There will be people who come to the floor today who will claim that the only issue today is military housing when, in fact, the issue today is an $800-plus billion budget from which we can find many puts and many takes in order to adjust priorities here and adjust priorities there in order to make sure all priorities fit within a budget.
How does this process work? The Committee on Appropriations, appropriately and in a way that we all appreciate, filed their bill meeting what is called the 302(b) number for military construction, meaning that it fit within the budget when the committee process began. But there were amendments that were made in order to increase the amount of spending over the budget and over the amount that was prioritized.
Why was that done? It was done for political purposes. It was done to make points because, as everyone knows, in the Department of Defense authorization bill, the cap that we will be talking about today for military housing was lifted. So it is being taken care of. It is being taken care of in the authorization process, which is the appropriate way to handle it, the appropriate direction to take, and a way that does not bust the budget and allows all of us to do this within a responsible process.
This Military Construction bill breaches the allocations that the Committee on Appropriations established for the Subcommittee on Military Construction by $1.2 billion as a result; that is 10 percent of the allocation. We are not just busting this by a couple of bucks here. We are not just saying it is okay to go over by a little. I mean, there have already been three bills that have left the House floor as appropriations that busted their allocations, three bills that we voted on on the floor here, that were sent to the other body, that busted the budget.
So it does happen. It does happen by a few hundred thousand here, hundred million there, but rarely have we ever seen the chutzpa of coming to the floor with a bill that busts it by over 10 percent of the allocation.
How does the Committee on Appropriations usually deal with this? Very typically, very routinely, the Committee on Appropriations comes to the floor and they make an adjustment to their 302(b) allocations. In fact, they can even make an adjustment to a bill that has already left, and they have done that in the past. And in fact, as I understand it today, they will make adjustments to their 302(b) allocations in order to make the three bills that left here, busting the budget, fit, something that they routinely do currently and totally within their jurisdiction and something that we, as fiscal hawks and people that want to make sure that we adhere to the budget, appreciate.
The chairman of the Committee on Appropriations has never brought a bill to this floor that busted the budget. Unfortunately, today this rule would allow that to happen. And that is why I rise in opposition, because we should not allow that to happen.
Military housing is an effective program, so important that I am disappointed that the Committee on Appropriations did not offset the additional cost with a spending reduction in other bills from lower- priority items, which is fully within their jurisdiction. Do they mean to tell me there is nothing else within any of the 13 appropriation bills that are lower priority than the military housing for our families who are fighting to defend our freedom? Nothing? Absolutely nothing? We cannot look for anything?
Just waive the rules, and not only waive the budget and the budget rules, but to do so almost 2 weeks after we had a debate on this floor saying the budget process is broken, we have got to come up with new rules. Why do we have to come up with new rules if we break the rules that we already have? Why do we adhere to the rules that we already have? Such as we write a budget, we allow the Committee on Appropriations to make their allocations within the discretionary accounts. They make that decision and bring bills to the floor to fit within that budget so that in final analysis we are able to stay within that budget overall and not increase the deficit and not borrow more money and not add to the national debt.
But we will continue to hear today that this is an important program and it needs our support. And it does need our support and it already has our support because it is moving through in the Department of Defense authorization.
The House should not be in a position of having to take up this bill. Under section 302(f) of the Congressional Budget Act, it is not in order for the House to even consider a measure that breaches the 302(b) allocation, Mr. Speaker. It is not even in order to consider this bill. And there are all sorts of mechanisms available to the Committee on Appropriations prior to bringing this bill to the floor, to make their adjustments to ensure that this bill meets its allocation.
The purpose of this rule is not to put a burden on enforcing the budget on the committee while it is moving the bill. Nevertheless, in a dramatic lapse of what I would call parliamentary responsibility and budget discipline, the rule waives this point of order. The rule shifts the burden for bringing the bill into compliance with the resolution away from the committee that is responsible, away from the Committee on Appropriations that we ask to make the tough decisions, to make the tough political decisions when they are political, like this one will have to be because people will make political points about this, about people not caring, about people not supporting, about people not wanting our military families to live in decent housing.
Well, there is not a Member of this body, not a Member of this body on either side, who should be accused of that or who would suggest that the men and women who serve in our military, who fight for freedom, should live in sub-quality housing. That is why we have the program. That is why the Department of Defense authorization lifts the cap and works to ensure that our men and women in the military have the ability to do just that.
Faced with the choice, and it is an unfortunate choice that I believe we are faced with today, of enforcing the budget resolution or supporting this rule, I believe it is my job as the chairman of the Committee on the Budget to enforce the budget; to listen to the men and women in the military who think their choice is more important than all sorts of choices that have been made and are going to be made in subsequent appropriation bills, number one, and also listen to the unbelievable amount, it should not be unbelievable,
it is actually believable to me, but the growing chorus of people across this country that say you in Congress spend too much money. Set your priorities. Determine what is important. Support our military families, and find something that is not quite as high a priority to cut out of the budget, to postpone until next year, to eliminate entirely.
The waste, fraud and abuse that is going on in this budget, that is going on in this government, that goes on as a result of what we continue to perpetuate without making those tough choices, is what we have to come through. Are the choices tough? Of course they are tough. But remember 2 weeks ago when we had that budget debate; when everybody said please, take away those tough choices for me. Come up with new rules that have commissions, outside commissions, to make these decisions. Or let us do something so that I do not have to make these tough choices, so I do not have to choose between military families and waste within other Departments of the government.
I know what my choice is. My choice is let us eliminate the waste. My choice is let us support those families, just like everybody else here on the floor would choose.
Instead, unfortunately, what happens today is we have a bill that comes to the floor that not only busts the overall budget, but busts its total allocation for this bill alone by 10 percent. That is irresponsible to our military families, and that is irresponsible to the fiscal integrity of this government.
We should not adopt this rule. If it is adopted, I will move to strike this provision. I ask for people to vote in opposition to this rule.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me time. Mr. Speaker, I would announce to my colleagues, especially on the Committee on Appropriations, that I intend to vote for this rule. But…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me time.
Mr. Speaker, I would announce to my colleagues, especially on the Committee on Appropriations, that I intend to vote for this rule. But there is one part of the rule that I do not like. I wish that the rule would have protected language relative to military housing.
I am really proud of the Committee on Appropriations and the Congress, because we have done an awful lot for the members of our military services, as we should; and there is a lot more that needs to be done. There are some 24,000 military families anxiously awaiting for this bill to pass so that they can get in line to receive one of those new housing projects.
Some of our military families live in great housing that has been produced through this public-private venture system and at a very low cost to the government, I might say. For every dollar it costs the government, there is $11 of private money invested, and these kids have great places to live. But there are at least 24,000 of our servicemen today who still do not have a decent place to live, and that is what this bill seeks to create and to fix housing for them.
The amendment that is in question does not appropriate any money. I do not see why the budget chairman is so exercised. We did not appropriate any additional money. The amendment that was offered by the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) and by the ranking member, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards), was strictly to raise the limit on the amount of money the government could enter into with the contractors. We did not appropriate a single additional dollar; and we did not need to, because of the great way this program works.
The chairman of the Committee on the Budget also said, why do this? It has already been done.
That is not true. It has not been done. The authorizing committee would like to do it, but they face the
same budgetary constraints that we face--not dollars, not money being spent by the Federal Government, just to raise the limit on the amount of money that the Federal Government can enter into contracts with private contractors.
It was suggested that we should have made changes in the budget process, and I agree with that. Let me tell you what one of the changes ought to be: the Chairman of the Committee on the Budget is basing his position on scoring by CBO, the Congressional Budget Office. I would like to base mine on OMB, the Office of Management and Budget.
OMB likes this provision, and they say that it is not going to cost any more money. The Administration in their Statement of Administration Policy, and the President, strongly support the provision that we are talking about. They say OMB would not score any additional cost to this provision because it does not increase the amount of budget authority available to the Department of Defense.
So, yes, we need budget process reform. We need to have the people that are scoring our appropriations bills reading from the same page. You cannot have CBO scoring something one way and OMB scoring it another way. That is one of the process changes that we need to make and that we will offer at a later date.
Mr. Speaker, this is important to our kids that serve in the military. As I said, we have done a lot for them, and we sent them to war. Most of the people that are concerned about this budget situation voted to send them to war. And when you go to the hospitals, as I do on a regular basis, to visit the kids, they want to get better, they want to get back to the fight, but they also want to know, if someone is taking care of their family. Are they going to live in decent housing? Are they going to have enough money to buy food for the kids, and things like this.
We owe these kids decent places to live. If we are going to send them to war, we owe them a quality of life that is better than so many of them are living today.
So we have a lot of work to do. The Committee on Appropriations, I believe, has made a great step forward in this bill by adding this language to allow the Department of Defense to increase the amount of authority that they would give to the private-public venture that provides housing for our military families.
There is a lot more that we have to do for these kids. They are paying a lot. The sacrifice is great, the separation from family, the facing of an enemy that is not even known in most cases, the problems they are facing in trying to secure America and our interests against terrorism and the terrorists who would threaten our very way of life. We owe them a lot more than we are doing for them now.
military housing privatization
The Military Housing Privatization Initiative was started in 1996. This program has successfully converted, 62,000 units and I have seen most of them. The program is extremely popular with military families who are clamoring to get out of the rat traps and into new homes.
The program is extremely fiscally conservative. Every $1 of federal money leverages $11 of private investment.
The provision in the Military Construction bill enhances the privatization program. Without it, the Department of Defense will have to forgo the creation of 24,000 additional homes.
This provision simply raises the cap on the amount the Federal Government can contribute to the program. It does not appropriate one single additional dime for the program. The administration strongly supports this provision. Let me read from the Statement of Administration Policy on the bill. I quote, ``The administration strongly supports the provision that would increase the military housing privatization cap from $850 million to $1.35 billion. This increase will improve the quality of life of our military families.'' OMB estimates that if this cap is not lifted the program will shut down in November of this year.
For 6 years CBO scored this provision the same as OMB. For some reason, this year they have changed their position. Their explanation is long and exceedingly complex. OMB disagrees totally with this interpretation. If there ever is a case to be made for directed scorekeeping, this is it.
I am extremely disappointed that this provision was not protected by the rule and will probably be struck by a point of order. It has been said we will fix it later--why wait--now is better than later.
Fact Sheet
Military Housing Privatization Initiative (MHPI) began in
1996. As of February 2004, DOD privatized over 55,000 units
through 27 projects--the current plan is for 171,000 units,
probably more.
DOD projects that it will privatize over 43,000 units in FY
2005. Of these, DOD estimates that 24,000 units are
threatened by the cap.
Affected installations include Fort Drum (2,272 units),
Fort Bliss (2,752 units), Eglin AFB (2,155 units), McGuire
AFB/Fort Dix (2,592 units).
DOD estimates that about half of current housing inventory
is still inadequate (too small, inferior to current design
standards, etc.).
Secretary of Defense has established goal of eliminating
inadequate housing inventory by 2007 (with exception of four
Air Force installations by 2008 and Air Force overseas by
2009). This goal is impossible without MHPI.
Average ratio of private to Federal dollars is 11:1.
Privatization is undertaken only where housing market and
life cycle analysis indicate that it is the best option. DOD
will still rely primarily on existing housing market to meet
service members' needs.
The least we can do is give our military servicemen a nice place to live, for them and their families.
Mr. Speaker, one very important part of this debate that we have not gotten to: Most Members of the House support this provision for family housing. The President of the United States supports this provision for family housing. The members of our military who are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan and other places support this provision for family housing. But if we do not pass the rule, if we shoot the rule down, then nothing happens, including family housing.
If, in fact, the rule passes and we get to the bill, maybe we can prevail upon everyone not to raise that point of order so that they do not appear to be the Grinch that stole Christmas from our military families.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. FROST asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me the customary…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. FROST asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me the customary 30 minutes.
Last night the Committee on Rules met to report a rule for the Military Construction Appropriations bill for 2005. The bill has wide bipartisan support. It provides sufficient funding for America's military construction needs and includes funding to improve facilities and family housing on reserve and active duty installations around the world. The bill also includes a provision that protects the most successful military housing project in history, the Military Housing Privatization Initiative.
Under this program, the Federal Government creates public-private partnerships to construct and renovate military family housing. The current state of military housing is a disgrace. It is often old and dilapidated. Under this program, quality homes for our troops and their families are constructed more affordably and more quickly. It is estimated that the government saves 10 to 15 percent over the life of the project, and military families receive improved homes in one-tenth of the time it will have taken using old methods of family housing construction.
When the program started in 1996, it was tied to a cap of $850 million in government investment. The Department of Defense will reach this cap in November. The Military Construction bill contains a provision to raise the cap and ensure that the most successful military housing program ever will be able to continue.
And herein lies the problem, Mr. Speaker. The rule that we are considering today puts this program in danger. It allows a point of order on the section of the bill raising the cap on the Privatization Initiative that would allow it to be completely stripped from the bill. If that happens, the program would be unable to continue past November of this year, and almost 50,000 military families would pay the price and continue to live in substandard housing.
I made a motion last night in the Committee on Rules to protect this section of the bill so that it could not be stripped out, but it was defeated on a party-line vote. I just do not understand that, Mr. Speaker, because perhaps more than anything else in this bill, this provision will help raise the quality of life for our troops and their families.
Perhaps worst of all is the fact that this is the only provision in the Military Construction bill that can be stripped out on a point of order. I think that shows real disregard and disrespect for our soldiers, and, quite frankly, Mr. Speaker, I find it disgraceful. We in this House are constantly talking about the need to support our troops, and yet when the time comes to actually vote on a substantive issue that could really help our fighting men and women and their families, some
Members of this House are not following through.
I, for one, am proud to support our troops. As a Nation, we continue to ask more and more of them, especially in this time of war and uncertainty. Our brave soldiers and their families deserve to live in quality housing, not slums. It should be their right, not their privilege; and that is why today I will attempt to defeat the previous question. If the previous question is defeated, I will offer an amendment to protect the military housing cap in the bill from being stripped out on a point of order.
Mr. Speaker, the chairman of the Committee on Armed Services, the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, countless military families and military organizations, and the President of the United States--let me repeat that, and the President of the United States, all support raising this cap. This House should too. America's troops and their families deserve to have our unconditional support as they continue to fight the war on terror. Vote ``no'' on the previous question and vote ``no'' on the rule.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Will the chairman of the Committee on the Budget please remain for a question? Will the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) please remain for a question? I do not think he meant to intentionally misstate a fact.
I would point out that the authorization bill lifts the cap for 2006. It does not lift it for 2005. In fact, the administration has asked for the $500 million.
I do not think the gentleman intentionally meant to misstate the fact, but he did make a misstatement of fact on the floor.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 8 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Reyes).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Spratt).
Mr. Speaker, how much time remains?
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Dicks).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
If I understand what is going on on the other side during the last 30 minutes, several Republican Members, the gentleman from California (Mr. Hunter), the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Saxton), basically urged the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) not to shoot the wounded. They have basically urged him not to try and strike this provision by objecting to it as a violation of the Rules.
What we want to do, of course, is take the gun out of the gentleman from Iowa's (Mr. Nussle) hand by protecting this provision so that he will not be able to shoot the wounded.
Mr. Speaker, I will call for a ``no'' vote on the previous question. If the previous question is defeated, I will offer an amendment to the rule that will protect the section of the bill that raises the cap on the Military Housing Privatization Program and ensures that more of our troops and their families will be able to live in good housing.
I offered this same amendment in the Committee on Rules last night, where it was defeated on a straight party-line vote.
Mr. Speaker, I have served in Congress for 26 years now. In all those years, I have thought that one thing that both sides of the aisle could agree on was our support for our troops and making sure that their needs will always be addressed. I guess what I thought was wrong.
Now we will be able to go forward. If we defeat the previous question, then we will be able to offer it. We will be able to protect this provision, and this bill will be able to be voted on. A vote against the previous question is the only way you protect our troops and the only way you protect the military housing provision in this bill.
If we succeed on the previous question, then there will be a vote on the rule with our protection of that provision, and this bill can be brought to the floor.
I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
That is correct.
Again, vote ``no'' on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent to insert the text of the amendment immediately prior to the vote on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman, I would simply observe that no two people in this House have worked harder to keep partisanship or any other illegitimate consideration out…
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I would simply observe that no two people in this House have worked harder to keep partisanship or any other illegitimate consideration out of this issue than have the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards). They have proceeded in tandem to try to produce concrete, as opposed to theoretical, results for the military families in this country who are deserving of a decent place to live.
But what we are being faced with is this: my mentor in this House, when I first came, was Dick Bolling from Missouri who for many years served this House in spectacular fashion on the Committee on Rules, and he often told me that the greatest enemy to true legislative progress was what he called ``dung hill politics.'' By that he meant Members being more interested in preserving the jurisdiction of their committee or the narrow interest that was associated with a committee or subcommittee, rather than focusing on the broader interests of the American people who we are supposed to serve.
It seems to me that this discussion tonight is an example of what Dick Bolling was worried about because what we have going here, as I said yesterday, is a charade.
The gentleman from Michigan and the gentleman from Texas have brought to the floor a bill which provides concrete assurances that at least 24,000 more military families will receive decent housing; but apparently the Committee on the Budget is unhappy, at least the chairman of the Committee on the Budget is unhappy, with the way the committee has gone about this; and so he intends, as I understand it, shortly to exercise a point of order which will strike from this bill the Congress' ability to deliver that housing to those military families.
In order to create an impression that these families are not being hurt, it appears that what the House will now hide behind is a motion taken yesterday to try to increase the authorization for this program, which would have the result, if the bill was enacted into law, of accomplishing the very same thing that is being accomplished by this bill. The problem is the way this Congress works, there is absolutely no assurance that a freestanding, independent authorization bill will go anywhere in the other body; and that is why, if you want to preserve that housing for those members, it is essential to keep this language in this bill.
That is what the gentleman from Michigan has been trying to do. That is what the gentleman from Texas has been trying to do on a bipartisan basis, and we ought to be supporting that effort rather than finding technicalities as reasons to deep-six the very fine work that they have attempted to do.
I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
Mr. Chairman, I rise to be heard on the point of order.
Mr. Chairman, it is important for us to respect the rules of the House, but sometimes the rules give Members powers to do things that they ought not do. Just because we have the power to do something does not necessarily mean that it is the right thing to do it. Sometimes it is important to exercise restraint. I think this is one of those cases.
The gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) correctly points out that an hour ago we waived all points of order on a huge spending bill, many times more dollars than we have in this bill. There were many points of order that could have been lodged against this bill when it came from the Committee on Rules, but the House leadership chose to expose only one item in the bill to a point of order, and that is the item that would have delivered decent housing to 24,000 military families.
What the House did or what the majority did by adopting that rule is to say in effect that peace in the family was more important than the sure delivery of decent housing to 24,000 military families.
Mr. Chairman, I think it is unfortunate that the majority leadership has dictated to the House that it must allow this one provision to be eliminated, but there is not much we can do about it and I also unfortunately have to concede the point of order.
Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit.
Unless the motion is adopted, Mr. Speaker, yes.
Mr. Speaker, what this amendment attempts to do is to restore the language just stricken by the gentleman. If the gentleman insists on his point of order, then obviously once again the House will have missed an opportunity to provide housing for these 24,000 military families.
Mr. Speaker, I offer a subsequent motion to recommit.
Mr. Speaker, this is the last opportunity the House will have to do the right thing for 24,000 military families.
This motion to recommit instructs the Committee on Appropriations to report the bill back with the cap lifted by $500 million for a total of $1.35 billion. This does not incur any additional costs. It simply allows existing funds and other assets to be used for privatization.
The problem seems to be, as Members have pointed out, that CBO wants to charge these privately raised funds against the budget allocation, which does not make any sense to anyone who lives in the real world. Any Member who has visited a military base and seen family housing knows this is a real need. Raising the cap enjoys broad support on both sides of the aisle and the White House.
I urge Members to join in support of this motion to recommit and give military families the decent housing they deserve.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards).
Mr. Speaker, to those who would cite the action taken by the House yesterday on the authorization bill, I would simply say that was not a substantive fix. That was a political fix, which is going nowhere because there is no assurance whatsoever that that bill will pass. This bill is a must-pass vehicle. That is why this provision ought to be attached to this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding to me.
Let me simply point out to the gentleman from Iowa that the bill that the gentleman from Iowa is suggesting that we focus on is the bill that is going nowhere for the next 6 weeks either. The only difference between this bill and the bill that the gentleman is now purportedly supporting is that this bill will after the summer recess go somewhere. The bill the gentleman supported yesterday is going nowhere. That is a big difference to military families.
Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not present.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time. I thank the gentleman for having produced an excellent bill with limited funds available; and I appreciate the gentleman from Texas (Mr.…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time.
I thank the gentleman for having produced an excellent bill with limited funds available; and I appreciate the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards), the ranking member, for his partnership in making this a very good bill. It is a good bill.
We are focusing on one part of the bill, and I think that is appropriate. We should focus on that one part of the bill, but all of the items included in this appropriations bill for military construction are needed. They are cost effective and they are very good projects. But the one that we are vitally concerned about today, the one that we fear might have a point of order raised against it, is the military family housing issue.
I have not found anybody, Mr. Chairman, that is opposed to doing what we want to do. We want to provide decent housing for the members of our military and their families. We do not want a soldier or a Marine to be in Iraq or Afghanistan and have in the back of his mind that his family is living in a rat-trap condition back home. That soldier, that Marine, has to be paying full attention to the mission and to accomplishing the mission, and also to providing some protection for himself or herself while they do this mission.
Congress needs to be totally supportive of the troops; and Congress has done a really good job. I am proud to say that we have identified, just during this year alone, many areas where the government is not taking proper care of military members and their families, and we are fixing them.
And, Mr. Chairman, we ought to do that. We need to fix these issues. We need to provide what our troops need and we need to protect them while they are doing it. And we need to have their families have a quality of life while they are out fighting that war. They do not need to be worried about what conditions the folks are living in back home.
The reason we need to do this is because this Congress voted to send them to the war. Now, maybe everybody did not vote for it, but most of us did, and we have an obligation to the men and women who protect this Nation and protect our national interests, wherever they might be, and who are on the front line in the war against terrorism and the threats of terrorists. A world that is controlled by terrorists or their threats of violence is not acceptable, and I do not know of anyone who would disagree with that except the terrorists.
This Congress has stepped up to the plate before, and we need to step up to the plate today. I am not exactly sure what the issue is on military family housing. Everybody is for it, but there are some who want to strike it from this bill and do it at a later time. What I cannot understand is, if we are going to do it at a later time, why not do it now?
There may be some other bills that could solve this same problem, but this bill is here and fixes it today. Some other bill that might solve this problem of family housing for the military, but it may not have to pass. This bill has to pass. Before this Congress can leave its business, this bill and all of the other appropriations bills have to pass.
That is an interesting point. A lot of folks do not understand that. Appropriations bills have to pass because if they do not, the government shuts down. Now, who wants to shut down the government? I do not know of anybody who wants to shut down the government. There may be some.
But this bill has to pass, and that is why we ought to solve the problem of military housing for families in this bill today, while we are here on the floor of the House of Representatives.
Now, there is a scoring issue. We have had many bills come to the floor where the Committee on the Budget
could have raised points of order--issues like the farm bill that exceeded the budget resolution; like the Medicare reform bill, where costs far exceeded the estimate; and this afternoon we are going to consider a highway program that exceeds the authorizing committee allocation by $400 million. And I have heard nothing about raising points of order on those bills.
I have not heard anyone from the Committee on the Budget state a concern about those bills. No points of order were raised against the farm bill or against the Medicare reform bill. It is my understanding that none are going to be raised against the highway bill today. That may change now that we put a little pressure on the issue, but as of this morning that was not intended.
But, for years, OMB and CBO have scored the military housing program the same way, 6 years. But for some reason, all of a sudden, CBO decided to score it differently. I do not know why. Maybe there is some good reason, but if there is, I do not know what it is.
I want to take just a couple of minutes to read what the President of the United States thinks about this provision in the appropriations bill. He supports this very strongly, as do most of the Members of this House and the Senate, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the chiefs of the services. They all support it. But you know who really supports it? The military troops who are defending our Nation support this because it gives their families some quality of life.
I am quoting now from the letter from the Administration. ``The administration strongly supports the provision that would increase the military housing privatization cap from $850 million to $1.35 billion. This increase will help improve the quality of life of our military families. Furthermore, without this increase, the current limit would be reached by November of 2004 and the program would be over. OMB would not score any additional costs to this provision because it does not increase the amount of budget authority available to the Department of Defense.'' And it goes on for about five more sentences expressing strong support for this provision and, expressing no concern whatsoever for the scoring.
I just think that it is so important to those Americans serving in our military, doing whatever they are asked to do, going wherever they are asked to go, making whatever sacrifice they must make. If we cannot today, in this bill that must pass, take care of their concerns for the way their families have to live, shame on us. But I would tell you that of the 435 Members of this House, I will bet if this was put to an up or down vote, there probably would not be five votes against it.
It is just too bad that a procedural situation, that is not even consistent, can derail this extremely important issue.
Let us not shoot Santa Claus on the floor of the House today.
Mr. Chairman, I rise today to express my severe disappointment of the military housing provisions in H.R. 4837 the Military Construction Appropriations for fiscal year 2005. While this legislation as…
Mr. Chairman, I rise today to express my severe disappointment of the military housing provisions in H.R. 4837 the Military Construction Appropriations for fiscal year 2005. While this legislation as a whole will support important military construction projects, it is absolutely shameful that Members of this body would seek to block lifting the cap on military housing privatization in this legislation. It is clear from the facts, which were agreed to by the Appropriations Committee, that if we do not take action now in regards to lifting the cap, then we will experience a crisis in military housing. I want to thank the ranking member from the subcommittee Representative Chet Edwards for all his work and dedication on the issue of military construction specifically his determination to do justice to our Nation's military families by lifting the cap on military housing privatization. It is because of his tremendous effort that the Appropriations Committee as a whole agreed that this cap must be lifted in this legislation. Again, I will say that it is shameful that we would try to undo this bipartisan effort in order to maintain a cap that can
only hinder military families from finding affordable and quality housing.
By not lifting the cap on military housing privatization we will in effect stop developers and property managers from building and renovating homes that are used by military personnel. Not lifting the cap in this legislation will affect 50,000 military families. Since its establishment in 1996, the Military Housing Privatization Initiative has been the most successful military housing program ever. In less than 10 years it has already helped over 60,000 military families, and would help an additional 50,000 military families at 27 military installations in 22 States if the cap is lifted. Under the Military Housing Privatization Initiative, the Government creates public-private partnerships to construct, renovate, and maintain military family housing. Not only has the program provided better housing for military families more quickly, this innovative military housing program has actually saved billions of taxpayer dollars. The Government saves up to 10-15 percent over the life of the project and military families are receiving improved homes in one-tenth of the time it would take using old methods of family housing construction. I find it repulsive that at a time when we are asking so much from our military families that we would try to undermine such a necessary program. It is imperative that we keep our promises to provide better and more affordable housing for our soldiers and their families. If we do not lift the cap in this legislation then a great deal of military home construction will be put on hold and many of the hopes of our brave military families will be put on hold as well.
Many efforts have been made to lift the cap on military housing privatization, first in the Budget Committee and then in the House Defense Authorization bill, however it is vital that we lift this cap now because it is just plain wrong to compromise good and affordable housing for our military families. This provision was supported on a bipartisan basis when it came through the Appropriations Committee; it is also supported by the Bush administration and a large number of organizations including: the Military Officers Association of America, the Association of the U.S. Army, the Air Force Association, and the National Military Families Association. I believe it must be clear to the entire body the need to lift this harmful cap now. The true of the matter is that our men and women of the military have always been ready when called upon and their families have always stood by courageously. How can we now turn our backs on them by compromising a tremendously successful program?
I would also like to stress my dismay that funding for existing military family housing will be $231 million less than the current level. These funds are used for maintenance and repair, furnishings, management, services, utilities, leasing, interest, mortgage insurance, and miscellaneous expenses of already existing family housing units. In 2001, the Department of Defense estimated that 180,000, 60 percent, of the 300,000 housing units it operates were substandard. While I applaud the committee's commitment to the goal of eliminating inadequate housing by fiscal year 2007, we must take significant steps to address this problem now. Clearly, by cutting hundreds of millions of dollars from the funds used to maintain existing family units, this will only magnify the problem. Again, we turn our backs on our military families when we compromise funding that is used specifically to improve their living conditions.
Again, I want to thank Ranking Member Edwards for his valiant efforts on this legislation under difficult conditions. It is truly disgraceful that there are those in this body who seek to undo the ranking member's work to craft an effective and bipartisan piece of legislation. It is also truly unfortunate that this appropriation had to be stretched so tight because of the administration's insistence on large tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Once again, we see how these reckless policies have led us to restrict funding to groups of Americans who are in need of it. In this case it is our military families who will have to suffer because tax cuts for the rich apparently trump any other consideration. Even though I have always worked against these reckless tax policies I want to apologize to our military families because as Members of Congress we have failed them, even though they have never failed us. It is my sincere hope that by next year's Military Construction Appropriations we will be able to do real justice for the sacrifice made by our military families.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? I would be happy to discuss Fort Hunter Liggett with the gentleman. Mr. Chairman, I would reply to the gentleman that, yes, I am aware of this language and…
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
I would be happy to discuss Fort Hunter Liggett with the gentleman.
Mr. Chairman, I would reply to the gentleman that,
yes, I am aware of this language and that it tracks with the gentleman's desire to see the land preserved and conserved for future open, natural space by giving the U.S. Forest Service the right of first refusal for Fort Hunter Liggett lands at such time as the Army deems them surplus.
Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman would yield again, I am aware of the gentleman's deep interest in this issue and appreciate his flexibility in finding ways to address this issue.
Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman would further yield, I assure the gentleman that I will be more than happy to work with him in conference on this issue.
Mr. Chairman, the gentleman is correct. It is my understanding that the Army has accelerated this project and will be in a position to award a contract in October 2005.
The Army estimates the project will cost approximately $17 million. I do not know how long it will take to complete the facility, but the actions taken so far suggest to me that they will move it forward in an expeditious fashion.
Mr. Chairman, it is my understanding that the Washington Headquarters Service is working with the Army to move this project forward and is prepared to provide the additional funding needed to expand the original project scope at Fort Myer to accommodate the children the gentleman speaks of from the Pentagon facility.
Mr. Chairman, I will be happy to work with the gentleman to ensure the Department proceeds with this project as soon as possible. I just want to say I appreciate the discussions we have had and the gentleman's interest in bringing a resolution to this that will satisfy all of us. I commend the gentleman for this.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to be heard on this point of order.
I understand the gentleman is reserving a point of order because the provision in question is legislation, and therefore prohibited on an appropriations bill under clause 2 of rule XXI of the rules of the House. However, I would like to point out to the gentleman the reason why this provision is in the bill.
As the chairman of the Committee on Armed Services stated earlier, this provision is supported by the authorizing committee and it is not in a defense authorization bill because of an objection by the Committee on the Budget. So with the support of the authorizing committee, the Committee on Appropriations voted to include this provision in the military construction bill, and thus made a value judgment to address military families' lives and welfare.
Now I believe the gentleman agrees with this policy because yesterday he introduced a bill and it passed almost unanimously. However, that bill may not go anywhere and I do not think that we should be playing with people's livelihoods with promises that we cannot keep.
I would also point out that under the Armey protocol, A-R-M-E-Y, this provision should not have been left exposed if the chairman of the authorizing committee does not object to the inclusion of this legislative provision in an appropriations bill. Only a piece of the language, which is directed at scorekeeping, is within the purview of the Committee on the Budget.
It is further regrettable that this provision is going to be stricken even though it is strongly supported by the administration and the House. It does not break the bank, as the chairman of the Committee on the Budget purports, or he would not have introduced a bill that does exactly the same thing yesterday.
I concede it is legislation and I concede it is subject to a point of order, but I also concede it is the right thing to do for our military families, and I believe the majority of the American people will agree with me.
Mr. Chairman, I would ask the chairman of the Committee on the Budget to think about all of this before he insists on his point of order.
Mr. Chairman, I submit the following for the Record:
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Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the motion to recommit, very reluctantly.
Mr. Speaker, I agree wholeheartedly with the substance of what he is saying because we have been down that road so many times and had those discussions. The problem is I do not want to stop this bill from moving forward, and that is exactly what we would be doing as much as taking on a risk that we are not clear about what the resolution will be.
This motion would require the bill to go back to committee and would slow down the many important programs that we are trying to help. For this reason alone I must oppose this motion.
I yield to the gentleman from Iowa.
Mr. Speaker, reclaiming my time, I appreciate what the gentleman said. I also take it from what he just said that he is going to be a player in this process as we go forward.
Mr. Speaker, could we come to the conclusion that it would resolve the problem and also eliminate the cap?
Mr. Speaker, let us make every effort to do just that.
I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 732 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 732 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Frost), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
Mr. Speaker, last night the Committee on Rules met and granted an open rule for H.R. 4837, the Fiscal Year 2005 Military Construction Appropriations Act.
The United States military is clearly the best in the world, and the young men and women in our Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines are thoroughly dedicated and patriotic professionals, the best our Nation has to offer.
And we are asking a lot of our military today. Our military personnel on active duty know that they may well be deployed overseas and perhaps on dangerous missions; so we want to provide a quality of life for themselves and their families that will allow them to serve, knowing that their families will be taken care of with good housing and good health care.
H.R. 4837 recognizes the dedication and commitment of our troops by providing for their most basic needs: improved military facilities, including housing and medical facilities.
Mr. Speaker, we must honor the most basic commitments we have made to the men and women of our Armed Forces. We must ensure a reasonable quality of life to recruit and retain the best and the brightest for America's fighting forces, and most importantly, we must do all in our power to ensure a strong, able, dedicated American military so this Nation will be ever vigilant, ever prepared.
H.R. 4837 provides nearly $1.1 billion for troop housing and $190 million for hospital and medical facilities for the troops and their families. Military families also have a tremendous need for quality child care, especially single parents and families in which one or both parents may face lengthy deployments. To help meet this need, the bill provides $26 million for child development centers.
This bill is more than just a signal to our soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines that this Nation recognizes their sacrifices. It is a means by which we meet our commitment to providing them decent quality of life, and this will sustain the commitment and professionalism of America's all-volunteer armed services and the families that support them. We owe them a great debt of gratitude.
While our men and women in uniform have swiftly engaged our enemies abroad, they face increasingly complex personal and professional challenges here at home. We must do more to take care of those who are putting their lives on the line to defend our freedom and for their families that support them. So I urge my colleagues to support this rule and to support the conference report.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 10 minutes to the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle), the chairman of the Committee on the Budget.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young), the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
It is obviously political season, and when it is politically convenient, deficits are a huge problem on the other side of the aisle, but they are not willing to make any sacrifices in any other areas to be fiscally responsible to all of our citizens.
There is no one in this House who does not support our troops and wants to see more military housing. But I really feel that today, in this debate I am listening to, our troops are being used as a pawn, and that is very disturbing to me. Yes, this is an agenda of our President, but I would also like to remind the other side that tax cuts were also a priority of our President.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg), the chairman of the subcommittee.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Chairman Hunter).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Saxton).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from New York (Mr. McHugh).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 30 seconds to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young), the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations.
Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules, to close.
(Mr. DREIER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order against section 129 of the bill because it violates clause 2 of rule XXI, which prohibits legislative language that directly amends existing law. Mr.…
Mr. Chairman, I reserve a point of order against section 129 of the bill because it violates clause 2 of rule XXI, which prohibits legislative language that directly amends existing law.
Mr. Chairman, parliamentary inquiry.
Mr. Chairman, there have been a lot of speeches already, and I understand it is permissible to speak to the point of order, but many of these speeches are just repeats of what has been done and can be done in regular order in consideration of the bill.
Mr. Chairman, I would insist on my point of order.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I just wanted to have the opportunity to respond very briefly to the gentleman from Texas. First and foremost, he is a member of the Committee on the Budget. He has been working on this a long time, as many Members have. There are some challenges we are going to have to overcome, there is no question. I understand that there is some skepticism about the bill that was passed yesterday, but I would hope that the other body would recognize the fact that a bill that was passed with the unanimous support of the House of Representatives could be expedited and that we could send a very clear signal to our men and women in uniform as well as their families that are looking for housing, that are having to deal with in many instances, as the gentleman knows far better than I, substandard housing, that we could deal with this in a very expeditious manner, the way we did yesterday, in an appropriate way, in a legislative way, not in an extraordinary way.
I would hope that the other body would take this up as quickly and as expeditiously as the House of Representatives did. We can accomplish that. We can do it in a bipartisan way as it was done yesterday. And it can be on the President's desk in moments, without further action, without further ado, without having to make them wait or wonder.
The military construction bill that we are considering right now, its future, we could argue, is also uncertain, given the fact that just about every prognosticator of the appropriations process suggests that we will not be completing the appropriations process on time this year, either as 13 individual appropriation bills or even as an omnibus bill but that, in fact, we may have to live under a continuing resolution for some time.
So while there is uncertainty about military construction and other appropriation matters, there should not have to be concern or question about our military families and what needs to be done as quickly as possible. It can be done expeditiously. It can be done using the vehicle that was passed yesterday by an overwhelming margin.
I would hope that other Members will not try any further delaying tactics for our men and women in uniform. I would hope that we can pass that bill as quickly as possible in the other body, that it will not be delayed, that it would enjoy the same kind of bipartisan support that we have here.
Mr. Speaker, I make a point of order against the motion to recommit because it violates Section 302(f) of the Congressional Budget Act.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, obviously I support the gentleman's opposition to the motion. Let me just point out as
well in support of his opposition that not only would it delay the military construction bill by sending it back to committee, because of the fact that we are going on recess as an example, it would postpone a decision about this because the gentleman, interestingly enough, complained about a technicality earlier. There is a technicality in this motion that Members need to be aware about. It is the words ``promptly,'' and ``promptly'' means when we get around to it a little bit later, not forthwith, which means right away.
What we did yesterday is more than promptly. It happened yesterday. It is over in the Senate. They can take advantage of that opportunity and pass that bill immediately, not in some form later on.
So I appreciate the gentleman's opposing this method even though I know his heart may not be in it as much as mine has to be in this instance.
Mr. Speaker, if the gentleman would continue to yield, I have been a player in this process from the very beginning. And as I did yesterday, I intend to be do whatever I can to help move this issue along in its proper form and in the proper manner.
Mr. Speaker, I guess the gentleman could take that from the fact that I wrote the bill yesterday even though I know there were some who may have been surprised by that. I do not think there is a Member in this body that opposes housing for military families. We just need to do it in the right way.
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Mr. Chairman, let me first take this opportunity to express my sincere appreciation for the leadership shown by my chairman, Mr. Knollenberg, and my ranking member, Mr. Edwards, on the housing…
Mr. Chairman, let me first take this opportunity to express my sincere appreciation for the leadership shown by my chairman, Mr. Knollenberg, and my ranking member, Mr. Edwards, on the housing privatization issue. I would also like to commend the leadership shown by Chairman Young, and Ranking Member Obey on this important issue as well.
As a member of the House Appropriations Subcommittee on Military Construction, I know of no other issue which is more important to our military and their families than housing. There is no other issue which has more of an impact on the quality of life of the men and women serving in the military than housing. This year we heard witness after witness testify before our subcommittee--each describing the lack of adequate housing as ``the'' major quality of life issue facing the military.
Mr. Chairman, I am proud to have two major military facilities--Ft. Benning and the Marine Corps Logistics Base in Albany, Georgia, in my district. However, just as important, I represent thousands of other military personnel who work at Moody Air Force Base and Warner Robbins Air Force Base, both of which are now adjacent to my district.
Unfortunately, according to the Department of the Army's installation status report for fiscal year 2004, approximately 71 percent of the Army's residential quarters located in the United States require some level of improvement or replacement, in order to meet the department's own adequacy standards. If you read literally, this means that seven (7) out of every ten (10) housing units located at our Army installations here in the United States do not meet the current standards for adequacy.
I am particularly concerned about the housing situation at Ft. Benning. According to the most recent data available, it is my understanding that approximately ninety percent (90%) of the family housing at Fort Benning is classified as substandard. Fortunately, Ft. Benning is scheduled to be one of the first bases to participate in the upcoming round of privatization.
Ft. Benning is scheduled to construct 4,055 much-needed family housing units. An additional 872 units are planned in FY 05 for Ft. Gordon, in Georgia as well. Unfortunately, Mr. Chairman, if the point of order is sustained against the language in the bill extending the program and we do not raise the cap, the program could be in jeopardy of stalling after November of this year.
That means that the units planned for Ft. Benning and Ft. Gordon in Georgia could be in jeopardy of not moving forward but not just in Georgia. Other bases, including Ft. Riley and Leavenworth in Kansas, West Point in New York, Ft. Rucker in Alabama, Ft. Knox in Kentucky, Ft. Jackson in South Carolina--all are just a few of the facilities which would be in jeopardy for the upcoming round of privatization.
It is important that my colleagues have an appreciation of the practical effects of not acting to increase the cap. Thousands of our officers and enlisted personnel will continue to reside in inadequate family housing. Our national goal of privatizing military housing will not be accomplished. In addition, the existing inventory of housing facilities will continue to deteriorate, resulting in even billions of dollars of more costs for maintenance and operations. Finally, each of the services, particularly the Army, will be unable to meet its goal of eliminating all inadequate family housing by 2007.
Not meeting this goal will further adversely affect the health, safety and quality of life of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and their families occupying these units. Privatization will provide new construction and revitalization of the existing inventory at a more rapid rate than current procedures and funding limits will permit. Privatization will also provide renovated or new quarters for our military and their families, which is comparable to housing of a similar size and quality as would be available in the local economy.
It is critical that our fighting men and women, and their families, have the best quality of life we can offer them. Their sacrifices are too great. This investment is such a small cost given what they are giving to us--putting their lives on the line--day in and day out. A decent place to live is small cost in return for their service to America. We owe them so much more.
Mr. Chairman, housing is at the core of providing a decent quality of life, and I urge the House to allow a lifting of the cap on housing privatization.
Mr. Speaker, I think that the speech we just heard indeed does illustrate rather dramatically the difference in priorities between most of us on this side of the aisle and many others on that side of…
Mr. Speaker, I think that the speech we just heard indeed does illustrate rather dramatically the difference in priorities between most of us on this side of the aisle and many others on that side of the aisle.
What is before us is this: we routinely see Members of both parties in this House talk about the need for shared sacrifice, and we routinely see Members of both political parties posing for political holy pictures because they both profess to be so concerned about the welfare of our soldiers who are fighting our wars on behalf of our national interest. But this rule walks away blatantly--it walks away from our obligation to those military families who are the backbone of our military efforts, whether in Iraq or other places around the world.
Now, the bill as it was reported by the Committee on Appropriations at the request of the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards), who is the primary mover on this issue, included a provision which allowed the Military Housing Privatization Program to continue to operate. That is important, because 160,000 military families right now live in sub- standard housing, and the provision in this bill to raise the cap on that program would have helped 50,000 of those military families to wind up living in decent housing. This rule will allow a single Member of this House to knock out that provision.
So here we are in the middle of a war. We talk about shared sacrifice, but in the end, how does that shared sacrifice really apply? To some folks in the military, those folks are asked to do their duty not just once, but twice. Some of them have already done one tour in Iraq. Now they are being called upon to do it again. Meanwhile, the rest of us in the country can sit back and ``sacrifice'' by accepting our tax cuts.
Now, the gentleman who just spoke, the chairman of the Committee on the Budget, produced a budget resolution which sacrificed virtually every national priority to his preference that we provide supersized tax cuts to people who make $1 million a year. So the budget resolution which that gentleman brought to the floor guaranteed that we were going to be able to give $90,000 tax cuts to people who make $1 million a year.
Where did the money come from? By squeezing on military housing, by squeezing on aid to education, by squeezing on health research at NIH, by squeezing on law enforcement funding.
The gentleman has very frankly stated his priorities, and I congratulate him for his honesty. I do not think much of his judgment, however, because if we were to follow his judgment and if we vote for this rule, that gentleman will be allowed to strike this provision on military housing.
If we follow this rule, if we allow this rule to pass, we will be in a situation where one Member of the House can exercise his personal preferences and knock out the provision that the Committee on Appropriations, on a bipartisan basis, put in this bill, to try to provide some help to the people who are doing the most to support the national policies of this country, and that is military families. I think that the result of this rule would be shameful.
Now, frankly, I was surprised when I heard the gentleman from Iowa oppose the rule, because this rule is here because of his pressure on the Committee on Rules. But, Mr. Speaker, now as I think about it, I finally realize what the game is. The gentleman from Iowa wanted the Committee on Rules to do the dirty work. He wanted them to directly eliminate that provision, rather than having to take the personal heat by standing up and knocking out that provision on a point of order.
Well, I would suggest the way to correct this problem is to vote down this rule, to vote down the previous question so that we can bring to the House a bill which protects this provision. The rule provided waivers for all kinds of other provisions in the bill. Why did it exempt from that protection military families who need our help the most?
Mr. Chairman, I rise to strike the last word. I want to have a colloquy between myself and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg). Mr. Chairman, I would like to invite you to engage in a brief…
Mr. Chairman, I rise to strike the last word.
I want to have a colloquy between myself and the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg).
Mr. Chairman, I would like to invite you to engage in a brief colloquy with me on an issue regarding Fort Hunter Liggett in California.
I yield to the gentleman from Michigan.
As the gentleman knows, Fort Hunter Liggett is today surrounded by U.S. Forest Service property.
In fact, prior to becoming a military base, most of the land was in the possession of the Forest Service, and another huge tract of land next door was owned by the famed Hearst family.
During the 1995 BRAC round, Fort Hunter Liggett was realigned and the cantonment area was excessed to the National Park Service. This means virtually all the functional buildings to support troop activities were given away, but all the land was retained by the military and put under the control of the Army Reserve.
The National Park Service, in preparation for accepting the cantonment area, studied its options with regard to management of this new property. In its report just released last month, the National Park Service labeled the land of Fort Hunter Liggett as ``relatively unchanged landscape'' from the time of the California's missionaries; as having ``no equivalent'' in terms of protected, undisturbed habitat; and as a ``rarity'' in its ``representation of cultural and natural history.''
However, because of the type of BRAC action at Fort Hunter Liggett, the land is not available to the Park Service and the Department of the Interior has indicated its reluctance to add such a huge tract of land to its inventory.
I guess, Mr. Chairman, what I am trying to say is that Fort Hunter Liggett, as active a military base as it is, still is a unique natural resource to our country; and it would be a shame to lose that resource should the base ever find itself nonessential to the military mission of our country.
While the Park Service, at this point anyway, seems disinclined to pursue further ownership of lands at Fort Hunter Liggett, the Forest Service is very interested.
Of course, no one is talking about giving anyone any land at Fort Hunter Liggett right now. It is a very active base, and I expect that it will merit strong support within the BRAC process for keeping it open and functioning.
But, Mr. Chairman, I wish to inquire if the gentleman is aware that the version of the Military Construction bill that is working its way through the other body does, in fact, contain the language addressing the issue of future land status at Fort Hunter Liggett.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for his response and his observation that I do desire to keep Fort Hunter Liggett as a natural resource if and when the military finds it is no longer essential to its mission; and I emphasize again to the chairman, only if and when the land is no longer essential to its military mission. I have no desire to close Fort Hunter Liggett as long as the Army finds it critical to its mission.
The chairman knows that I hoped to attach to the House bill we are debating right now language similar to that inserted on the other side, but in the interest of the House rules and jurisdictional matters, I chose not to.
Mr. Chairman, I would ask one further question of the chairman. I would ask that the gentleman would work with me during the conference on this issue to retain language we all find agreeable that will keep the Forest Service as first in line to get Fort Hunter Liggett when and if it is excessed.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the chairman for his leadership and cooperation and friendship.
Mr. Speaker, there is absolutely no way I can support this rule. Last night, the Republican leadership of this House once again turned its back on military families trying to find a decent place to…
Mr. Speaker, there is absolutely no way I can support this rule.
Last night, the Republican leadership of this House once again turned its back on military families trying to find a decent place to live. On bill after bill after bill, this Republican majority has chosen to waive all points of order, but on this bill, the Speaker and the majority leader refused to protect the Military Housing Privatization Initiative provision in the Military Construction bill from a point of order, despite the support of the President of the United States and the chairman of the Committee on Armed Services.
The leadership's decision dooms the important military housing provision, and it is wrong; and it is wrong particularly in a time of war.
The housing initiative is a public-private partnership that allows developers and property managers to build or renovate homes for use by military personnel. It is extremely successful. In fact, it has already provided decent housing to more than 60,000 military families, exceeding all expectations. If adequately funded, this initiative will enable the military to eliminate nearly all inadequate units within the U.S. by 2008.
Unfortunately, the law establishing the initiative limits total Federal spending on this program.
This limit will be reached by this November, effectively sounding the death knell for the expectations of 50,000 military families at 27 military bases in 22 States who are desperately waiting for these homes over the next 2 years.
Now, faced with this housing catastrophe, the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards), with the bipartisan support of their committee, increased the MHPI cap by $500 million, the amount needed this year to continue upgrading and building military housing under this program.
Mr. Speaker, it is the practice of the Republican leadership in the Committee on Rules to allow points of order to be raised if the chairman of the authorizing committee objects to the inclusion of any provision legislating on an appropriations bill. The chairman of the Committee on Rules consistently explains this whenever Democrats on the Committee on Rules ask why a rule does not protect a certain provision. Yet in this case, the chairman of the Committee on Armed Services, the authorizing committee, supports raising the MHPI cap in this bill.
Not only that, the President of the United States supports the raising of the cap in this bill; but the Republican leadership, despite all their rhetoric about supporting our troops, has once again turned their backs on our troops and their families.
Mr. Speaker, this is one of those defining moments. If Members of this House want to support our troops and their families, then they will reject this rule. If Members of this House want their actions to match their rhetoric, then they will reject this rule. Each year I have watched the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) do their best for our military personnel and their families with one of the most inadequate allocations in the budget. This year they tackled the difficult challenge of providing decent housing for our military families around the country. They did the right thing in this bill and in return only ask for protection for this important provision, and what they got from the Republican leadership was a slap in the face.
I urge my colleagues to defeat the previous question, support our troops, and support the families of our troops.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time. I rise in very reluctant support of this rule. I am eager to see this bill move forward. It is my bill. It is our committee's bill. But…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time.
I rise in very reluctant support of this rule. I am eager to see this bill move forward. It is my bill. It is our committee's bill. But I am disappointed in one particular aspect of this rule.
The rule does not protect section 129 of the bill from a point of order. Section 129 raises the cap on the military family housing privatization program. This provision does not appropriate one dime in any new money; it merely increases the authorization level in order to allow fiscal year 2005 projects to proceed.
The chairman of the Committee on the Budget referenced the defense authorization bill. It does not even touch on 2005. It talks about 2006. This money, if the cap is not removed, is going to disappear by about November.
Unfortunately, CBO has decided that this provision should be scored. Its rationale for doing so is a little strange and thoroughly unconvincing. The crucial point is this: If the developer cannot service the debt on a project, the Federal Government is not on the hook. This has been stated over and over. There is no backing of any kind for the developer's private debt.
The bottom line is that this is a bookkeeping dispute with CBO, nothing more. But because of the decision of the CBO, this provision is vulnerable to a point of order, and I was hoping that this rule would waive that point of order.
By the way, CBO and OMB scored this the same way since 1996, but this year CBO decided to change it. Nothing in the program has changed, but CBO decided to change the scoring.
The housing privatization program is an enormously successful and popular program. I cannot think of a single person, including the chairman of the Committee on the Budget himself, who has expressed opposition to this program. The administration put out a statement on the bill that strongly, strongly supports the provision. They do not agree with CBO's scoring.
Earlier this year, my subcommittee heard from military spouses who testified to the positive difference that this program made in their lives. Let me just quote from one spouse, Mrs. Susan Sinclair of Fort Rucker, Alabama.
``Thank you for your efforts to improve our housing. The Residential Communities Initiative, RCI, has made many of our government neighborhoods look like civilian communities. My neighbor received a letter from her daughter stating that Camp Humphreys, Korea,'' we are talking about Korea now, ``had the best housing in the Army. What a change. As many of you know from my testimony 3 years ago, when my husband and I were stationed in Camp Humphreys, we lived in a condemned Quonset hut.''
By the way, that still exists around the world, around this country in many ways, too.
``This new housing is a testament to your committee's desire to improve the quality of life of our soldiers and their families. I want you to know how much we appreciate your efforts.'' By the way, we have many of those.
Mr. Speaker, we have heard positive comments like this all the way up to the Joint Chiefs level. I really want to identify, too, with the comments of the gentleman from Florida (Chairman Young), because I think he had some very, very significant points.
I have personally seen this housing program and many members of this subcommittee have done so as well, and they have done some great work. Some new communities have been built, and this is a vast improvement.
So with that, Mr. Speaker, I again say that I will support this rule, but only with serious reservations.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman, I had a couple of amendments at the desk that I will not offer in favor of engaging in a colloquy with the gentleman from Michigan (Mr.…
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I had a couple of amendments at the desk that I will not offer in favor of engaging in a colloquy with the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg). The reason I offered those amendments is the Pentagon has a day care facility located on its campus that has capacity for over 200 children. After September 11, 2001, parents of those children were assured they would not have to be relocated. Now they are told without any real warning that they have 60 days to vacate. This is nearly 3 years after the attack on the Pentagon.
In Northern Virginia, there is a waiting list of 12 to 18 months at most of the day care facilities, so we offered an amendment to try to speed up the process of building a new day care facility at nearby Fort Myer. That is what this colloquy concerns because it is beyond me why the Pentagon would tell the parents that they have only 60 days to vacate.
They say they have information that the Pentagon might be more likely to be a target between now and Election Day. If that is the case, they need to evacuate them immediately. There is some suspicion as to the purpose, but I do not want to engage in that speculation. I want to do what we can as a legislative body to ensure there is an alternative site because I think most parents would agree that if they had an opportunity to sit down and talk with the decisionmakers at the Pentagon that it makes sense to begin to relocate the children.
Mr. Chairman, let me ask the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg), I understand that the Pentagon, in response to the recent decision to close the day care facility at the Pentagon, has offered to expand and accelerate the planning and construction of the new day care facility at Fort Myer, but at the earliest will be able to start construction in October 2005; is that correct?
I yield to the gentleman from Michigan.
Mr. Chairman, does the Army have an updated estimate on how much this project will cost and when this project will be completed?
Mr. Chairman, my concern is there may be a lack of coordination between the Army and the Washington Headquarters Services at the Department on how to proceed with the design, planning and construction of the new day care facility. To the gentleman's knowledge, is the Army working with the Washington Headquarters Service on moving forward with this timetable of October 2005?
Mr. Chairman, it is my hope I can work closely with the gentleman from Michigan on ensuring that the Pentagon work quickly toward providing a completed alternative day care facility at Fort Myer as soon as possible. I would hope that in the meantime the Department dedicates all means necessary to find immediate interim solutions for the parents of the more than 100 children at the Pentagon today who are still without adequate child care options.
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentleman's assistance on this matter. My present concern remains how best to encourage the Pentagon to focus on providing interim day care service. I look forward to working with you to see if there is any assistance we could provide for interim solutions.
I want to recognize the fact that the gentleman from Northern Virginia (Mr. Tom Davis) and the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Wolf), the chairman of the Subcommittee on Commerce,
State, Justice, both of whom have constituents in this situation, as I do, and they have also worked very diligently on this. We appreciate the opportunity to work with the gentleman from Michigan.
Mr. Chairman, we did not have much time on the rule to discuss this issue on the cap on family housing, and I want to first of all congratulate the chairman (Mr. Knollenberg) and the gentleman from…
Mr. Chairman, we did not have much time on the rule to discuss this issue on the cap on family housing, and I want to first of all congratulate the chairman (Mr. Knollenberg) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) for working together in a very bipartisan basis in our committee. The chairman could not have done more to help bring this provision to the floor of the House. We all regret, and I think it was a mistake in judgment for the Committee on Rules, to make a decision to not protect this provision, and this provision which raised by $500 million the cap on family housing was sought by the administration.
Each of the services testified before our subcommittee. The Secretary of Defense and his people supported it. The White House supported it. OMB supported it. The chairman of the Committee on Armed Services supported it. Of course our distinguished chairman of the Committee on Appropriations Subcommittee on Military Construction and the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations also supported it. And we are going to make a decision based on an arcane rule coming out of CBO that is in conflict with OMB.
Now, my view in this situation, if I were in the majority party and the administration wanted this done, I would be trying to find a way to make it happen; and this is a big problem, because there are, I think, about a dozen projects.
Here are the projects that will not go forward this year if the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Nussle) has his way: Fort Drum, New York; Dover Air Force Base, Delaware; Shaw Air Force Base, South Carolina; Cannon Air Force Base, New Mexico; Fort Monmouth/Picatinny Arsenal, New Jersey; Carlisle Barracks, Pennsylvania; Fort Bliss, Texas; White Sands Missile Range, New Mexico; Altus Air Force Base, Oklahoma; Eglin/ Hurlburt Air Force Base, Florida; Lackland Air Force Base, Texas; Langley Air Force Base, Virginia; Sheppard Air Force Base, Texas; Tinker Air Force Base, Oklahoma; McGuire Air Force Base/Fort Dix, New Jersey; MCAGCC Twentynine Palms, California; MCSA Kansas City, Missouri; Camp Lejeune/MCB Cherry Point, North Carolina; Stewart Army Subpost.
Those projects will all be delayed because of this decision; and as has been suggested, we are in a time of war. We are in a war on terrorism, a war in Iraq, a war in Afghanistan. We have our troops deployed all over the world.
The one thing the people who are deploying say and their spouses say is one thing we really would like to see an improvement in, in the services, is military housing; and we have worked at Fort Lewis. I have a major project out there that is going forward. It is one of the greatest successes. We can get more housing, new housing and more restored housing faster under this public-private sector project; and usually the majority party is thrilled about public-private projects.
In this case, this decision will adversely affect the quality of life of men and women serving in the military and their families, and this is over an arcane budget rule. To me, the insistence on striking this out is one of the worst mistakes I think we have made around here in a long time.
One thing I have always been proud of, this House has always been able to rise above partisan or short-term considerations and work towards a bipartisan cooperation on defense. Let us not ruin that today.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I want to compliment the gentleman on his statement; and when he is right, he is really right. I thank him.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? I want to commend the gentleman for his statements and for his effort this year. The gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) has gone all out working with the…
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
I want to commend the gentleman for his statements and for his effort this year. The gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) has gone all out working with the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg) to craft a solution here. I have supported his efforts and I have Fort Lewis, Washington, McChord Air Force Base, in fact, in Fort Lewis we have one of the RCI, the Residential Construction Initiatives. It has worked better than any project for housing in the history of the country. And that is why this is so destructive. And we are not talking about spending additional military construction dollars.
All we are saying is we are going to raise a limit by $500 million so that these transactions can occur in a public-private partnership.
This is what we have always heard from the majority party is the right way to go, these public-private partnerships. Down in Fort Hood this is a great success.
I went out with General Soriano, the Commanding Officer at I CORPS. We went out and walked through these brand new houses being built under the Residential Construction Initiative. The wives of the sergeants were telling us this is the greatest thing that has ever happened in the Army.
I have been out there when these deployments occur, and one of the things the spouses say and one of the things the members of the services say when they are deployed is they worry about their family, they worry about the housing, they worry about health care, they worry about what is going to happen to their families while they are gone. I know from my years of experience, 26 years on the Subcommittee on Defense, 18 years on this subcommittee, that quality of life and having this new housing and getting it done in a timely way is crucial.
That is why the objection to this by the majority party to me is so unexplainable, because one thing we have always been good about in this
House is on a bipartisan basis rising above limitations, things of that nature, to get the job done for the men and women who are serving, and especially now when we are in a time of war, especially now when the services are stressed in a most difficult way, and with all these deployments. We are over-deployed.
We saw what the GAO said today. There is not enough money out there to properly deal with the problems we have got. So to pile this last thing on, this poke in the eye of the military families by not raising this limit, to me is one of the worst things that has happened in my 28 years in the House.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Edwards).
Reclaiming my time, I want to say here is a situation where this does not cost extra money. All we are talking about is raising the limit. The Office of Management and Budget is for this. The Secretary of Defense is for this. The service Secretaries are for this. The Chiefs of Staff of each of the services are for this. I mean, the President is for this. And it would seem to me with all of that support and with the chairman of the House Committee on Armed Services, the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Young), the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg), who has been a tremendous leader on this, why is it that we cannot get this done? Why is it that we cannot take care of these people?
To me this is unexplainable.
I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time, and I thank the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) for his leadership on this bill. We have just had a long debate on this…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time, and I thank the gentleman from Michigan (Chairman Knollenberg) for his leadership on this bill.
We have just had a long debate on this military housing issue, and I think what is missing in it is a little bit of understanding of what it is all about.
Several years ago, Congress authorized that instead of designing military housing, instead of funding and building it, essentially putting up taxpayers' money and then going out to bid and building it to a military plan, we decided why not allow the private sector to build this housing, build it more like the housing that is in the communities, higher quality housing, and build it to the standards that are normally found in the private sector in housing; and this was called the RCI, Residential Community Initiative. It has been a very effective program because we do not have to put up taxpayer money to do it.
Through that, what we have found is that the private sector rushed in and put together these consortiums of developers and have done a job that is more attractive than anything we could have done under the old sort of public-military housing concept.
And the soldiers and the wives of the soldiers are very, very interested. In fact, they came to our committee and said of all of the issues affecting the military, of all of the issues affecting families in the military, the number one issue was adequate housing. Not surprisingly, it is probably the same question on the private side. And they applauded us for addressing the issue, but they asked us to make sure that we do not get stuck in these internal budget rules.
What we are talking about is an internal rule. It is our own rule, we can waive it if we want to, and that is the issue. We should be waiving it. Why should we be waiving it? Because we do not have to put up the money; the private sector does it. Why should we waive it? Because it is all about investment. It is the ounce of prevention that is worth a pound of cure. What is the investment in? It is in quality homes built to code standards in the community, the highest standards we have ever had in this country. It is built to the kind of quality that the housewives and soldiers, the men and women in uniform like.
And what does it do? It helps us, one, go out and recruit people, and we are in an all-voluntary military. We cannot force them to join. They want to join, and part of it is the benefit package that is offered to you while you are in the military, including the housing.
The second is, once you get in, if you are assigned to bases that have the inadequate housing that the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) talked about, and there is a lot of it out there, people living in Quonset huts, we should not allow that. If these were local homes, they would be shut down by the building inspectors, yet we allow military families to live in them when the private sector can build new homes. So we need to do that for retention.
Once we have these well-trained people in the military, we want them to stay. One of the biggest attractions of staying is you get to live in a quality community.
So this internal budget rule makes no sense, and I hope that nobody raises an objection.
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word. Mr. Chairman, it was not my intention to speak on this matter, but I am a little disconcerted about discussions that would suggest that anybody on either…
Mr. Chairman, I move to strike the last word.
Mr. Chairman, it was not my intention to speak on this matter, but I am a little disconcerted about discussions that would suggest that anybody on either side of the aisle is interested in some way or another of placing a limit on the opportunity for our men and women who are serving us across the country by way of their housing or by way of their potential for income.
I did not speak extensively on the earlier bill, but within that bill we had funding, full funding for a pay adjustment for our troops. I believe that everybody here who knows this subject knows that the authorizing committee just the other day moved a separate bill that would lift the lid in terms of the housing challenges we are talking about.
It is not the intention of the Members of this House in any way, shape or form to do anything but support our troops. Indeed, the last bill that passed the House had a $25 billion amendment as a part of its package that reflects our effort to make sure that money upon the time that bill is signed is readily available to fight the war overseas, as well as to make sure that we are doing what is necessary to care for the families, the men and women who make up the strength of this Nation.
I must say that my colleague from the Committee on Appropriations knows full well that on both sides of the aisle we are committed to serving our troops. This is not a partisan question by any matter or means. It is very dangerous to our national security when people try to carry this to partisan levels, and so that is the only reason I am speaking today is because the House has worked beautifully in this connection. It was a bit disconcerting for me at least to hear what I considered to be rhetoric rather than substance.
I yield to the gentleman from Texas.
Reclaiming my time, the gentleman suggested that we are about to take the August recess; and thereby, I suppose, people are on vacation. I do not know about the gentleman, but I intend to go home and work and communicate to my constituents all of that which we are doing for the men and women who are serving us in this country. I mean, it is very, very important that we not suddenly decide this may be an issue whereby I can impact or give the impression that maybe one side is more holy than the other in terms of what we are trying to do for our troops. It is just the reverse. We have done our work well because we do so in an almost nonpartisan manner.
Mr. Chairman, I would hope as the gentleman is preparing to leave our body as my classmate and my dear friend, I hope that we will have a lot of time in the future to discuss the positive of this kind of discussion. In turn, all of us know that we serve our troops best when we take partisanship out of it.
Indeed, today, I am very proud of my colleague, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg), for the work he has done here; and I hope we can move forward from this point and discuss his bill in terms of the real values that have been contributed here. So congratulations to my colleague, and I appreciate him giving me this time.
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentleman's courtesy in yielding me time. I, too, was saddened by the decision of the House Republican leadership, so ably articulated by my friend, the gentleman from…
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentleman's courtesy in yielding me time.
I, too, was saddened by the decision of the House Republican leadership, so ably articulated by my friend, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards); and I appreciate the service you are doing for our servicemen and -women, training the spotlight on this.
But I would like to speak briefly, if I could, Mr. Chairman, to a specific area. Historically, I have come before this subcommittee talking about the problems of military cleanup. I did not this time, because I appreciated what the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Knollenberg) and the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards), the members of the committee, were faced with. And I think they have done a good job under difficult circumstances, trying to put a little bit of money into the BRAC cleanup; but I would like to serve notice that I am hopeful that this is the last time that we place this low degree of priority.
I appreciate the imperative that you are facing, but we have a long- term time bomb, literally, that is ticking. The presence of unexploded ordnance and other contaminants on transferred military property limits our use of hundreds of thousands of acres of closed military bases from prime real estate to scenic open space. That is one of the reasons why we have such great apprehension about the BRAC process that is working its way forward. People are afraid that they are going to be left with a toxic white elephant.
And, indeed, the BRAC situation is just the tip of the iceberg, because we have between 10 and 50 million polluted acres; and at the rate of the spending that we are embarked upon now under the MILCON and the Department of Defense, we are going to take in the neighborhood of 300 years or more to clean up this responsibility that will be skyrocketing in costs over time. And these things get worse as the explosives, as the military equipment deteriorates, polluting groundwater, migrating to the surface. This is a problem that we cannot continue to sweep under the rug.
The Federal Government should be leading by example, cleaning up after itself, making sure we are not leaving an expensive, toxic legacy for the future.
Last but not least, this subcommittee can help by providing more leadership with local communities to provide a framework to the cleanup. I have been impressed with what happened in the State of California, recognizing that long-term operation of military installations must involve a partnership between the State, the local, the Federal Government; in some areas, tribal authorities.
I would hope that we could work together in a cooperative fashion with these other entities to be able to have a framework that will promote the clean-up because, ultimately, not only will this improve the quality of life of our military families, it will hasten the day that we solve this problem, saving billions of long-term dollars.
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[H. Res. 732 Engrossed in House (EH)]
In the House of Representatives, U.S.,
July 21, 2004.
Resolved, That at any time after the adoption of this resolution the Speaker
may, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII, declare the House resolved into the
Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union for consideration of the
bill (H.R. 4837) making appropriations for military construction, family
housing, and base realignment and closure for the Department of Defense for the
fiscal year ending September 30, 2005, and for other purposes. The first reading
of the bill shall be dispensed with. All points of order against consideration
of the bill are waived. General debate shall be confined to the bill and shall
not exceed one hour equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking
minority member of the Committee on Appropriations. After general debate the
bill shall be considered for amendment under the five-minute rule. Points of
order against provisions in the bill for failure to comply with clause 2 of rule
XXI are waived except: section 129. During consideration of the bill for
amendment, the Chairman of the Committee of the Whole may accord priority in
recognition on the basis of whether the Member offering an amendment has caused
it to be printed in the portion of the Congressional Record designated for that
purpose in clause 8 of rule XVIII. Amendments so printed shall be considered as
read. At the conclusion of consideration of the bill for amendment the Committee
shall rise and report the bill to the House with such amendments as may have
been adopted. The previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill
and amendments thereto to final passage without intervening motion except one
motion to recommit with or without instructions.
Attest:
Clerk.