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Became Public Law No: 108-103.
October 29, 2003
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Introduced in Senate
September 8, 2003
Read twice and referred to the Committee on Governmental Affairs.
September 8, 2003
Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs discharged by Unanimous Consent.(consideration: CR S12022)
September 25, 2003
Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs discharged by Unanimous Consent. (consideration: CR S12022)
September 25, 2003
Passed Senate without amendment by Unanimous Consent. (text: CR S12022)
September 25, 2003
Received in the House.
September 30, 2003 • 12:30 PM
Message on Senate action sent to the House.
September 30, 2003
Referred to the House Committee on Government Reform.
September 30, 2003
Committee Consideration and Mark-up Session Held.
October 8, 2003
Ordered to be Reported by Unanimous Consent.
October 8, 2003
Mr. Shays moved to suspend the rules and pass the bill.
October 20, 2003 • 3:06 PM
Considered under suspension of the rules. (consideration: CR H9700-9702)
October 20, 2003 • 3:06 PM
DEBATE - The House proceeded with forty minutes of debate on S. 1591.
October 20, 2003 • 3:06 PM
Passed/agreed to in House: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill Agreed to by voice vote.(text: CR H9700-9701)
October 20, 2003 • 3:12 PM
On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill Agreed to by voice vote. (text: CR H9700-9701)
October 20, 2003 • 3:12 PM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
October 20, 2003 • 3:12 PM
Presented to President.
October 23, 2003
Signed by President.
October 29, 2003
Became Public Law No: 108-103.
October 29, 2003
Floor Debate
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Floor Debate
24 membersWhat members said about S. 1591 on the floor
Mr. President, I commend Senator Murray for her strong leadership in restoring funds for the Healthy Communities Access Program to improve the delivery of care to the uninsured. The program provides…
Mr. President, I commend Senator Murray for her strong leadership in restoring funds for the Healthy Communities Access Program to improve the delivery of care to the uninsured. The program provides grants to coalitions of health providers to improve the coordination of care for the uninsured. Since its inception, we have seen an overwhelmingly positive response to the program. Through these grants, 150 communities have been able to increase care for the uninsured, reduce unnecessary health costs, and create innovative projects through collaboration and information-sharing. In Massachusetts, the Cambridge Health Alliance used its grant to launch an impressive outreach campaign to enroll 57,000 uninsured residents in a comprehensive and well-coordinated system of care. The Alliance has formed strong partnerships with local schools, law enforcement, and advocacy groups who work together to meet the needs of the most vulnerable members of the community.
The Healthy Communities Access Program embodies exactly the kind of innovative approach to improving the quality of health care that we need. Yet, despite its successes, the administration wants to zero out the program and the Omnibus Bill eliminates its funding. We should not allow the gains made in communities across the country to be lost because of this shortsightedness. I urge the Senate to approve this amendment and support our communities in this effective way to improve care for the uninsured.
Will the Senator yield for a moment? Does the Senator have the time?
I want to commend my friend from Rhode Island. As one of the authors of the S-CHIP Program, we gave the States an opportunity to use the money and then we provided, if they did not use the money, that States that were attempting to cover the children would have some access to it and then eventually it would go back to the Treasury.
We are finding out now that there are a number of States that are prepared to go ahead and insure these children. This program is so enormously important, because if you put it with the Medicaid Program, there is no real reason why any child in America isn't covered with some form of health insurance.
I commend the Senator from Rhode Island. This program was agreed to and accepted in a strong bipartisan way. As author, along with my friend from Utah, Senator Hatch, if we had just not provided this provision and let the States have a little more time to implement it, we would have a lot more children covered. This makes a great
deal of sense. It is focused and it is a successful program. The point the Senator from Rhode Island makes is that it will ensure that hundreds of thousands of more children will be protected with health insurance.
I thank the Senator.
What was the request?
Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I yield myself 8 minutes.
Mr. President, this is a health amendment. It is related to the broad disparities that exist in health care in our society, which recently the President of the United States has recognized, and also our majority leader.
I will take a moment or two to demonstrate these very significant health disparities. This amendment is intended to support and expand some of the existing programs which are in effect and a number of which have been cut very deeply in this omnibus appropriations bill, to restore funding to the appropriations, and then also to meet some of the current needs.
Just very quickly, we have nearly one in four African Americans and one in three Hispanics who are uninsured compared to 16 percent of all Americans. The mortality rate for African Americans is 1.6 times higher than for Whites, a ratio that is actually identical to the ratio in 1950. That has not changed since 1950--the last 50 years. The African- American infant mortality rate is twice that of Whites. Diabetes afflicts Hispanics twice as much as Whites. Minorities are less likely to get heart medicines or cardiac surgery or even essential pain medications. African-American men suffer prostate cancer twice as often as White men.
This is the reality. And I could go on. There are very dramatic and significant disparities. Take, for example, the health disparities in HIV/AIDS. This chart shows the rate per 100,000 of the population. It is 81.9 among Black Americans, 34.7 among Hispanics, 9.4 among American Indians/Alaskans. And it is 8.4 among the White population. There is a tremendous disparity.
What we have seen is that the minority HIV/AIDS initiative faces a devastating cut in this omnibus bill. It is an 85-percent cut. Do we hear that? An 85-percent cut.
In 2002, there was $381 million available for the initiative. In the omnibus, it is $50 million. This amendment would put it at $540 million. It would take the $380 million and adjust it to the increased demands we are facing.
It is absolutely intolerable that we have seen this dramatic reduction in terms of outreach for services, for prescriptions, for caring among minority populations. I think it is one of the glaring deficiencies of this particular program.
Before continuing, I must make a brief comment on today's Washington Post article on the front page where they say the AIDS panel choice wrote of a ``gay plague''--a ``gay plague.'' ``Views of White House Commission Nominee Draw Criticism.''
I would have thought, with all the debate and discussion we have had here on the floor, going back to the debate and discussion on Ryan White, and how we have debated and discussed the NIH budget and other issues relating to minority health, that we could have moved beyond this kind of serious stereotype of characterizing those with HIV or AIDS as part of a ``gay plague.'' Most of us thought this country had gone well beyond that kind of horrible insensitivity. I believe this appointment should be withdrawn. It is an insult to gay Americans, to those who have worked so hard to treat people with AIDS with sensitivity and support.
Removing one individual is not enough. We must maintain and expand our commitment to deal with the disease. When it comes to AIDS in the minority community, this appropriations bill is missing in action.
This amendment also provides some assistance to the NIH Center on Minorities and Health Disparities to try to make sure that the center, which coordinates a national research agenda on minority health is going to be adequately funded.
It also provides a very small and modest increase in the HHS Office for Civil Rights. Many members of the minority community are being excluded from treatment, care, and attention. It is difficult to think that is the case, but that is happening all over this country. The HHS Office for Civil Rights has more than 1,000 complaints on its desk that are being unanswered. We provide a few million dollars, from $33 million up to $48 million, to be able to deal with this.
Finally, one of the most important provisions in all of this pertains to programs that are directed to try to help meet the deficiencies in training minority health professionals and support historically Black schools. I just want to point out that in the Clinton year of 2000, funding was $93 million; in 2001, it was $109 million; and in 2002, it was $115 million; but the Bush request for this year is $10 million-- $10 million.
There has been an increase in the revised omnibus, but it still shows a blatant and flagrant failure to understand the serious problem in the declining numbers of minority health professionals. These series of programs and the centers of excellence that enable many minorities to make it to schools of professional training--in nursing, dentistry, and medicine--those programs would have effectively been closed down. And the scholarship programs which have been available to minority students effectively would have been drastically reduced.
It does seem to me, after all we have heard in the debates over the period of the last 2 weeks, on issues of affirmative action, on issues of civil rights, that the one area on which we could all come together is these extraordinary disparities in health care that have been out there. These are the same disparities that have been around for the last 50 years and, under this omnibus bill, programs that help to alleviate the disparities are being cut back or abandoned in a very significant and important way.
This amendment restores those funds and adds additional funding to it to make sure we have realistic levels of assistance to reduce disparities. It does seem that even though we have had debates that have been divisive over recent times, on issues of affirmative action and other judicial issues, we as a Senate ought to be able to come together and say that whether you are going to get care and attention on a particular sickness or disease should not depend on the color of your skin. That is what is happening.
Mr. President, I yield myself 2 more minutes.
Mr. President, that is what is happening. In too many instances we are finding that those whose skin is not white are being denied medical care. They are being denied the services which are so essential to individuals to improve their kind of health conditions.
This is an area we can do something about. We will have broad debates on
other kinds of policy issues, but in terms of reducing the disparities and having support for the tried and true programs, this amendment will advance that cause. I hope we can accept it and move on.
Mr. President, I withhold the remainder of my time.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum and the time to be applied equally.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, how much time remains?
I have 5 minutes remaining?
I yield myself 2\1/2\ minutes.
Mr. President, I would like to call attention to the Labor-HHS appropriations conference report from FY 2002 on the Minority HIV/AIDS Initiative.
What it shows is the appropriations for HIV/AIDS health programs for FY 2002--$123 million for HRSA; $96 million for CDC; $7 million for SAMHSA/Center for Mental Health Services; $57 million for SAMHSA/Center for Substance Abuse Treatment; $38 million to the Center for Substance Abuse Prevention; $50 million for the Office of the Secretary; $9.7 million for the Office of Minority Health. That adds up to $381 million.
The Senate fiscal year 2003 omnibus appropriations lists $50 million for the Minority HIV/AIDS Initiative, Office of the Secretary. That is it. It is all listed in very considerable detail in this 2002 report. On the other hand, under this fiscal year 2003, minority HIV/AIDS has just the $50 million, Office of the Secretary.
This is extremely important. The 2002 conference report illustrates exactly where the funding has been directed and the support for it. That is completely missing in this proposal.
Our amendment addresses these issues and provides the kind of support which will make an important difference in reducing the disparities in health care in our society.
Having listened to so many who have spoken so often in the last several days on civil rights, there may be differences on one issue or another affecting civil rights, but we should all come together on this issue to address the disparities in health care which exist. We should go beyond our differences.
I reserve the remainder of my time.
Mr. President, I yield myself 1 additional minute.
What do these cuts mean? They mean 10,000 minority women and children, including HIV-infected pregnant women, will lose medical care under title IV of Ryan White; 11,000 minority patients in the hardest hit cities will lose lifesaving drugs and critical medical care through title I of Ryan White; another 5,000 minority patients will lose medical care funded through State governments under title II of Ryan White. These are just some of what will happen unless we make major changes in the omnibus appropriations bill, and my amendment does that.
I withhold my remaining time.
I have 2 minutes which I will use.
That is fine.
Would the Senator be good enough to repeat?
I thank the leaders.
Yes. Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 89 and ask for its consideration. Mr. President, I rise to offer the 6-month Medicare and Medicaid extenders amendment No. 89 to H.J. Res. 2. The modified…
Yes.
Mr. President, I call up amendment No. 89 and ask for its consideration.
Mr. President, I rise to offer the 6-month Medicare and Medicaid extenders amendment No. 89 to H.J. Res. 2. The modified version of the amendment is at the desk. The modification assures that the cost of this amendment is fully offset by extension of the Customs user fee.
The current appropriations bill, like the extension of unemployment insurance we passed earlier, represents unfinished business from last year. We are dedicating so much time to deliberating this bill because we recognize our obligation to take care of issues we left unresolved in the last Congress. I stand before you today to discuss another obligation that we left unfinished. That is Medicare.
Virtually every Senator on both sides of the aisle has in the past expressed deep concern about the shortfalls of the Medicare system, particularly the lack of a long overdue prescription drug benefit.
Now, regardless of the many DSH solutions that have been proposed and debated, I think it is fair to say that all of us stand united in saying Medicare needs fixing. Now, does this amendment provide that long-awaited fix? No. But what it does do is effectively freeze Medicare in its 2002 state.
As badly as we all believe that Medicare was functioning last year because of the fiscal pressures, without action Medicare will be in even worse shape this year. Many of the Medicare and Medicaid provisions enacted in the Balanced Budget Act of 1999 or the Beneficiary Improvement and Protection Act of 2001 either expired at the end of fiscal year 2002 or will be expiring soon.
Last year, there was bipartisan interest, led by Senators Grassley and Baucus, in addressing many of these ill-conceived cuts. But that effort was caught up and procedurally tangled at the end of last year, and many of the cuts we were trying to avert will now go into effect. I believe a number of these cuts, once implemented, will be very difficult to reverse. Yet because of procedural roadblocks, we won't be able to address them, despite the overwhelming bipartisan majorities in this body to fix these cuts and their impact.
This is policy by default and by neglect, not by deliberative democracy. My bill provides a 6-month moratorium on this Medicare cliff to prevent irreversible deterioration of services for beneficiaries while Congress completes the unfinished debate from last year over a more comprehensive Medicare reform package. The measures in this amendment--with the exception of the physician payment update, which lasts from March 1 to September 30--are scheduled to be implemented from April 1 to September 30, 2003, the exact same time period as the other rural hospital provision that is already included in the omnibus.
The specific measures of this amendment include an inflationary update for hospitals and a continuation of the workforce add-on for nursing facilities that are trying to maintain nurses in a time of shortage. It also delays the automatic 15-percent home health cut. It prevents cuts in dialysis services, and it helps stroke victims by continuing a moratorium on the $1,500 cap for therapy services.
This amendment would also assure that hospitals serving a disproportionate share of Medicaid and Medicare beneficiaries, including teaching hospitals, are not crippled or even have services basically shut down while Congress debates this issue. It assures that doctors who have suffered a 5.4-percent cut last year, and are frozen at last year's rate by this omnibus bill, would get a 2-percent increase from last year's unacceptably low levels. It also extends the QI Program, which I know my colleague Senator Bingaman is very interested in; that provides support for low-income seniors who would otherwise be unable to afford Medicare premiums. These seniors will be kicked off Medicare on April 1. Once they are kicked off, it will be hard to identify and reinstate them unless Congress extends their eligibility.
Medicare+Choice plans are also increasing their premiums, cutting benefits, and withdrawing services. I believe beneficiaries need protections against these health plan deductions and we should debate and pass these protections in the coming year.
In the meantime, I am troubled by reports of plans pulling out of markets and leaving beneficiaries stranded. As you can tell from this chart, until we can act to help beneficiaries, this amendment provides for a 3-percent increase, increasing the 2 percent already scheduled, which will hopefully prevent further pull-outs and the disruption they cause to the continuity of care.
So what would happen if we didn't do anything? Well, as this chart shows, hospitals are already struggling to keep up with rising health care demands while trying to invest in the latest lifesaving technology. They would lose roughly $1 billion, including over $100 million in New York alone. Medicaid DSH hospitals, which take care of a disproportionately high number of uninsured patients, would lose an additional $100 million.
Meanwhile, this chart shows the increasing amount of uncompensated care that hospitals are forced to provide. Let me say a word about physicians, many of whom were forced to limit their Medicare practice due to last year's cut. This will--if we don't act, if we only implement what is in the omnibus bill--continue to bring about limitations in practice and decrease the numbers of patients who are served.
Skilled nursing facilities already facing worsening nursing shortages would lose $700 million. That amounts to about $32 per day per resident. And for the average nursing facility, this amendment amounts to about a $117,000 annual cut. That is enough to pay for two registered nurses, three licensed practical nurses, or five certified nursing assistants.
Home health agencies, which are so critical in allowing patients to be taken care of at home rather than in expensive inpatient facilities, would lose $500 million. These are just a few of the providers who form the fabric of our seniors' health care system. If we allow the fabric to fray, it will be much harder to weave it together again. As this chart shows, the fabric is already framed. Over the past year, I have talked to numerous providers from New York and from other States who are just on the brink of halting services, not only to Medicare patients but actually going out of business altogether. The common refrain I hear is that once these providers leave the Medicare system, they are not coming back, even if an eventual long-term solution is found. In other words, it is far easier, and I argue far cheaper, to preserve our current system and then strengthen it later than to allow the current system to be destroyed with the hope of rebuilding it in the future.
When a critically ill patient comes into the emergency room, he is first seen in the ER, stabilized, then sent to surgery, if required. Why? Well, we all know from watching television that the ER physician knows that surgery will take a while. If immediate measures are not taken, the patient could
die before the surgeon can even begin operating.
What we have with Medicare right now is a critically ill system, one which I know requires major surgery in the very near future to transplant the dying patient into once again a live and vigorous one. But until we are ready to do that operation, we need to take immediate action to stabilize the system and prevent it from collapsing before we are able to act.
This amendment will act as that stabilizer, will give us time to undertake the long-term task. I therefore urge my colleagues to support the amendment. Continued inaction will leave Medicare so irreversibly damaged that even the best healers among us will be unable to revitalize it. I look forward to stabilizing our patients and getting on to debating the right cure.
The Senator is absolutely correct. Health care is a primary provider of jobs in every State that I know of and certainly in the cities across the country. Our hospitals, nursing homes, home health programs, physicians offices are all providing employment. That is why it was so important that we tried to address this last year. We could not get past the procedural roadblocks, despite the best efforts of Senator Grassley and Senator Baucus. I supported their proposals. Now we have to act because we are on the brink of an emergency.
I want to make sure that the modified version of the amendment with the offsets we have found is at the desk because there seems to have been some confusion.
Yes, I will yield.
I thank the Senator from North Dakota. Clearly, if we do not act, doctors are going to start pulling out of Medicare in a month. Then we are going to have the rapid unraveling of the system, which we all fear. It is going to be much harder to put it together under the leadership of Senator Grassley and others who are addressing this issue.
The Senator is correct to point that out. That is not in the modified amendment. I apologize; the Senator has not gotten a copy of the modified amendment.
Mr. President, I agree with the Senator. As the Senator knows, as often happens around here, we have been working very closely with staff of the Finance Committee. Many of these provisions have been modified, and also we were able to fully offset the costs by extension of the Customs user fee, knowing full well that is a concern of many of my colleagues with respect to how this would be paid for. I will take the position it is such an emergency that we should find new money, if necessary, to give us the time to do this in a deliberative manner. But we do have the offsets, and the modified amendment provides for those offsets.
The teaching hospitals will certainly help defray some of the increasing costs that are not going to be taken care of otherwise.
The Senator's question is absolutely pertinent. We worked very hard through the night addressing that point. I have been informed by my staff, in consultation with the Finance Committee staff, that the amount is offset. Clearly, as I have said, I think this is such an emergency that we should spend new money, but we do have such an offset.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the modified amendment be accepted at the desk and be considered.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. Mr. President, I enjoyed very much the speech of my colleague from Pennsylvania, but it has almost no relevance…
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I enjoyed very much the speech of my colleague from Pennsylvania, but it has almost no relevance to what is going on here at all. It was good for the amusement of the Chamber, but those numbers bear no relationship to the amendments that have been offered.
The Senator from Pennsylvania adds up some tote board scoring of costs that bear no relationship to the amendments on which we voted. These amendments were not spending for 10 years. These amendments were to restore cuts that have been made in the budget for this year. This does not have anything to do with spending for 10 years from now, or 5 years from now. So all those cumulative totals bear no relationship to what has occurred in the Senate.
The concern with deficits of the Senator from Pennsylvania is interesting, but it is a change for him because he supported the massive tax cuts that have opened up this chasm, where we have gone from a projection 2 years ago of $5.6 trillion of surpluses over the next decade to now being $2 trillion in the hole. Where was he in his concern for deficits then?
The assertion that each of these items that have been voted on can be totaled is erroneous as well. We cannot just take each of these amendments, every one of them which has been defeated, and total them. One amendment is offered, it is defeated. That money cannot be treated as though it has been spent. That is what the Senator from Pennsylvania has done. It defies logic. It defies reason. It defies the facts.
These amendments were not offered in total. They were offered one at a time. As they were defeated, another amendment was offered. So you cannot total them. And you certainly cannot make 10-year totals from any of them because they are 1-year pending proposals.
I am happy to yield to my colleague.
If I might ask the Chair, the Senator from North Dakota
sought recognition, was granted recognition, the Senator from North Dakota still has the floor; is that not the case?
That is correct. And I have yielded to my colleague, the Senator from North Dakota, for a question.
Mr. President, deficits inhibit growth and hurt the economic strength of the country. That is undeniable.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, first of all, I thank our colleague from Arizona for taking the time to listen to our concerns, because this is a disaster of staggering proportion in our State. Let me just say it is the unanimous view of every elected official in the State of North Dakota, every single one, Republican and Democrat, that we must deal with this unfolding crisis.
Here is what has happened to this lake. This lake, by the way, is three times the size of the District of Columbia. This is a massive lake. It has risen dramatically, some 26 vertical feet, since 1992. It started rising then and, as you can see, it has been straight up since then. This is a flood unlike any other in our Nation's history. The reason for that is that there are only two closed basins in the entire United States. The drainage basin for this lake is the size of the State of Massachusetts. This lake, if it continues uncontrolled, will reach the size of the State of Rhode Island. That is not just conjecture. That has happened two times in history. Those two times were at times when North Dakota and Minnesota were unpopulated.
Already the cost to the Federal Government already of this lake rising has been over $350 million. Threatened structures have been moved. Highways have been raised. A massive dike protecting the town of Devils Lake has been increased twice already. The Federal Government is poised to raise it again. So the hard reality is that unless more is done, we face a catastrophic event.
The year before last, 50 miles outside this basin, there was an event where 18 inches of rain fell in 1 day. If that event had occurred 50 miles to the west, this lake would have gone up, according to the Corps of Engineers' calculations, by 3 feet, perhaps even more. That probably would have overwhelmed the road system, because we now have roads acting as dams, protecting homes, protecting people from catastrophic loss. If that event would have occurred in the middle of the night, it is entirely likely that lives would have been lost.
The consequences of a failure to act here are enormous. This lake, which is already three times the size of the District of Columbia, has had an uncontrolled release out of the east end twice before in its history. If it happened again, it would be devastating to the hundreds of thousands of people downstream.
I remind our colleagues, the first ones downstream are the people in North Dakota, in the towns of Valley City, Fargo, and Grand Forks.
We have insisted that water quality has to be met with any outlet procedure. The provision in this bill provides that the funds shall not become available unless the Secretary of the Army determines that an emergency exists with respect to the need for an outlet and reports to Congress that the construction is technically sound, environmentally acceptable, and in compliance with the National Environmental Policy Act; provided further that the justification for the emergency outlet shall be fully described, including the analysis of benefits and costs to which the Senator from Arizona referred. There will be a requirement that a cost-benefit analysis is done. Provided further that the plans for the emergency outlet shall be reviewed and, to be effective, shall contain assurances provided by the Secretary of State that the project will not violate the treaty between the United States and Great Britain relating to the boundary waters between the United States and Canada.
We have attempted to be environmentally sensitive and cost-friendly to American taxpayers, but also to respond to this burgeoning crisis in the Devils Lake Basin, a crisis that has already cost the taxpayers of the United States $350 million. If the growth of this lake continues, it has the prospect of costing the American taxpayers hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars more.
We have already had to buy out an entire town. We have already had to buy out the town of Church's Ferry.
The next town on the list is Minnewaukan. There is the lake. It has already eaten up the playing field of the high school there. That is all under water. This entire town is now threatened.
American taxpayers have already had to buy out Church's Ferry. Next is Minnewaukan, and if this continues, Devils Lake, a town of 10,000, would potentially fall into the requirement of having to be bought out. The cost of that to the American taxpayers would be billions of dollars. That is the hard reality.
Let me close with this photo. We like to say this is the luckiest fellow in North Dakota because he just escaped the advancing flood. This is a lake that, as one Federal official came out and said: My God, this looks like an ocean. Indeed, it is huge, three times the size of the District of Columbia. If it continues to grow, we will see complete devastation for hundreds and hundreds of thousands of acres and for hundreds of thousands of people.
This is a picture of a home having to be burned because it was in line with the floodwaters before it could be moved. Of course it would have created a serious health hazard had it been allowed to go into the water. So homes all across this area had to be burned and hundreds have had to be moved.
This project needs to go forward to protect human life and to prevent a disaster of stunning proportion. If this lake escapes uncontrolled out of the east end, as it has twice in our history, we expect that the downstream people would have a very serious adverse health effect.
I asked one time, when I heard repeatedly the Corps of Engineers talk about the health effects that would occur, the illness that would be the result of an uncontrolled release of the water out of the east end, what kind of health problems would occur? They explained the water systems downstream cannot handle the dissolved salts that are in this lake. If it went out of the east end of the lake uncontrolled, thousands of people downstream would be made ill.
There are many things that need to be done. Additional storage in the upper basin, millions of dollars have been spent on that. Moving threatened structures, raising roads, millions of dollars have been spent on that. Raising the dike protecting Devils Lake, tens of millions of dollars have been spent on that.
But one part of an overall strategy to deal with this crisis is to provide for an outlet. As the Senator from Arizona correctly states, there is no assurance that will solve the problem, but it is our best hope to prevent a catastrophe of truly stunning proportion, one that would not only adversely affect the people of North Dakota but the people of Minnesota and the people of Canada as well.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I rise today to speak about the State Children's Health Insurance Program and to thank my colleagues for their willingness to work with me on restoring funding to this program that is…
Mr. President, I rise today to speak about the State Children's Health Insurance Program and to thank my colleagues for their willingness to work with me on restoring funding to this program that is essential to ensuring continued health care coverage for America's children.
For the past week, I have worked with my colleagues to secure this agreement that will restore $2.7 billion in expired, or soon to expire, SCHIP funding. This compromise, that has been endorsed by our Nation's Governors, would ensure that this funding remains in the program and continues to provide children with access to the care that is vital to their healthy development.
I appreciate the willingness of Majority Leader Frist, Finance Committee Chairman Grassley and Budget Committee Chairman Nickles to work with us in developing this agreement. Because of their commitment to finding a solution, we are able to move forward with this important policy.
I believe this agreement is the most appropriate way to restore the SCHIP funding. Because the budget resolution adopted by the House of Representatives does not include adequate budget authority to restore this funding, the floor amendment that I filed to the omnibus appropriations bill would be subject to a budget point of order in the House. Given the that this point of order would lie against the provision, the likelihood that the House would strip this during conference is great. In light of these circumstances, I believe that this agreement is the most appropriate way to ensure that this funding is restored.
The agreement that was struck would, in exchange for withdrawing the amendments that my colleagues and I filed to the omnibus appropriations bill to restore SCHIP funding--provide the support of the majority leader and Chairman Grassley and Nickles to make necessary changes that will remove the budget hurdles that have prevented this legislation from being enacted.
Specifically, Senator Nickles has provided his commitment to reallocate through the fiscal year 2004 budget process additional budget authority for SCHIP in fiscal year 2003 and fiscal year 2004. Senator Nickles, I am confident that under your leadership, the budget process will move smoothly and expeditiously and that we will be able to speed the adoption of this proposal in both the Senate and House of Representatives.
Further, Chairman Grassley has agreed to move this policy through his committee as soon as the necessary changes are made to the budget allocations. Again, under his strong leadership, I am confident that we will get this done.
Finally, Majority Leader Frist has agreed to place the legislation on the
Senate calender as soon as it is reported from the Finance Committee.
I might add that while I am aware that this agreement was forged in the Senate, the underlying policy proposal was developed through a bipartisan, bicameral process led by Senators Grassley and Baucus last fall. I hope that the House of Representatives will work with us to make the necessary changes to the fiscal year 2003 and fiscal year 2004 budget allocations and to see this vital policy enacted in a timely manner.
Since 1997, States have made historic progress in their effort to insure low-income children under SCHIP. In fact, the National Center for Health Statistics just released data this month showing that the percentage of children 17 years of age and younger with health insurance has increased from 86.1 percent in 1997 to 91.2 percent during the first half of 2002. During this same period of time, statistics show the percentage of children insured by government programs, such as SCHIP, also increased to 27.2 percent. While these statistics are encouraging, a great deal of work remains if we are to address the critical issues of affordability and accessibility of health insurance, especially as they relate to health care for our children.
These compelling statistics reinforce the necessity that Congress must act to restore the expiring SCHIP funds. If we delay, we could jeopardize the substantial progress that has been made since 1997 in increasing the number of insured children in America. It is estimated that without restoration of this funding, almost one million children could lose health insurance coverage.
How it works it this, once passed, the policy would restore $2.7 billion in SCHIP funding that has either reverted to the Treasury or is scheduled to revert to HHS for redistribution. On October 1, 2002, $1.2 billion reverted to the Treasury in unspent SCHIP funding from 1998 and 1999. If we do not recapture this funding, it will be lost to the program. Our agreement allows the States to reclaim this unspent money and provides until the end of fiscal year 2004 to spend it on health insurance provided by SCHIP.
It also strikes a compromise between States that have spent all of their 2000 and 2001 allotments, and those that have not, by dividing the funding evenly between them. Those States that have not spent all of their allocations would be able to retain half of their funding, while the remaining States would receive additional allotments from the redistributed funding.
It also rewards those States that used Medicaid to expand access to health care for low-income children prior to the creation of SCHIP, by allowing them to access some of their SCHIP funding to serve this population. This compromise has the endorsement of the National Governors Association and children's health advocates from across the country.
In my home State of Maine, this proposal would allow the State to keep $13.4 million in SCHIP funding and would provide until the end of fiscal year 2004 to spent, I do not know about your State, but in Maine $13.24 million will help provide health care assistance to a lot of children, children who otherwise would not have access to immunizations, well-baby visits and yearly check-ups.
While my colleagues and I have agreed to forgo the appropriations process as the vehicle to move this package, we certainly have not abandoned our effort to restore the funding. If fact, we are more committed then ever to seeing the SCHIP funding restored and have added the support of the majority leader and chairs of the Finance and Budget Committees. Adding their endorsement to this effort, which already has garnered strong bipartisan support, will help to speed its passage.
In closing, I wish to highlight a quote from Secretary Thompson when his agency released the positive new data I referenced earlier regarding the level of health insurance for children in our country. He said:
More and more children are getting the health care they
need, thanks in large measure to our success in working with
states to expand health coverage through the SCHIP program.
We are giving governors the flexibility they need to continue
to expand coverage to more children, and our strategy is
paying off for children and parents alike.
This strong endorsement of SCHIP should act as an impetus to getting this policy enacted and ensuring that we do so in a timely fashion. Again, I appreciate the support of my colleagues and look forward to working with you as we move forward to enact this policy.
Mr. President, I would like to join in the colloquy that has just been held because it comes under the jurisdiction--or at least some of it--of the committee that I chair. I thank my colleagues for…
Mr. President, I would like to join in the colloquy that has just been held because it comes under the jurisdiction--or at least some of it--of the committee that I chair.
I thank my colleagues for their attention to this important children's health care policy. They are correct that something must be done to address the funds that have and will revert to the treasury in the near future. They are also correct to note the constraints within the omnibus bill. I strongly support the State Children's Health Insurance Program. It is a program that provides heath care for over 16,000 low-income children in my state.
Senators Chafee, Snowe, and Rockefeller are looking to address a necessary maintenance issue within S-CHIP. As Senator Snowe noted, I worked very closely with Senator Baucus, Senator Chafee, Senator Rockefeller, Chairman Tauzin, and Representative Dingell on a bipartisan, bicameral proposal that would have addressed expired S-CHIP funds.
The proposal reflected a balanced approach to redistributing S-CHIP funding taking into account that some states are spending through their existing allotments and other states are ramping up their programs and will need additional funding in the years to come.
This proposal did not pass the Senate last year, but it is a fair approach to redistributing S-CHIP funds. Unfortunately, I can not support including this policy at this time. The omnibus bill is a poor vehicle for this necessary maintenance.
I am sympathetic to the intent of this policy, although this is neither the time nor the place to address this issue. The Senate and the House have an agreement with the Administration to keep the omnibus appropriation bill under $750 billion. The S-CHIP policy costs over $1.2 billion in budget authority in 2003. An amendment of this nature would break that agreement and that is simply not acceptable. I appreciate Senator Snowe's, Chafee's and Rockefeller's willingness to accept this reality.
I assure my colleagues that I will work with them in the near future to update the S-CHIP redistribution policy in the near future as chairman of the Finance Committee. It my understanding that Senator Nickles, the chairman of the Budget Committee, is also interested in a regular order approach and that he is interested in putting money aside in the budget to address the needs of S-CHIP.
With this in mind, I believe the most appropriate way to address this issue is to work with the Chairman of the Budget Committee, Senator Nickles, to secure sufficient funding for this bipartisan S-CHIP proposal and then to address it in the Finance Committee. I will also continue my work with Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Tauzin, so the Senate and the House can move forward in a coordinated fashion.
I assure my colleagues that I will work with them once the budget resolution for fiscal year 2004 has been adopted to move legislation quickly through the Finance Committee that reflects a bipartisan, bicameral two-year agreement on S-CHIP.
Yes.
Mr. President, if there is a question before the Senate, I do not want to interfere.
Mr. President, it is my understanding I have 15 minutes.
Mr. President, I yield myself 5 minutes, and then I will yield Senator Kyl 5 minutes.
I want my colleagues to reject this amendment. I, like the Senator from New York, agree we need to strengthen and improve Medicare, and I proved that last year with a bipartisan bill on Medicare give-back. Working with Senator Baucus, we put together a $43 billion bill that would have improved health care in rural America and address many of the issues the Senator from New York wants to address as well.
While I support addressing the needs of all Medicare providers, I cannot support doing it in this way in the amendment being proposed. We have to do this in a comprehensive, studied, and targeted way.
Everyone agrees that Medicare needs improving, and most of us would agree that Medicare payments need to be updated, but we do not have agreement on how that should be done. Some, including this Senator, believe that at least some providers need more money, but other Senators who might disagree with me say that providers are doing well and that their funding should be reduced.
Even very recently, we had the nonpartisan Medicare Payment Advisory Committee last week make recommendations to Congress calling for reductions in some provider payments.
I do not take these recommendations as gospel truth, and they are not going to govern my decisionmaking, but I believe we have a responsibility in the Finance Committee to examine all of these issues closely. More important, the only way we get anything done in this body is by a bipartisan approach. So we have to build a consensus before we pass a one-size-fits-all policy such as the one before us. I believe the place to do that is the Finance Committee. We will do our homework. That means listening to providers, beneficiaries, and experts to craft payment adjustments that ensure access to services for Medicare beneficiaries.
I will certainly ensure that the Finance Committee consider my colleague's proposal. The two Medicare provisions in this omnibus bill are limited in time and duration. They target the cases with the most widespread support--physicians as well as rural and small urban hospitals--while we can do it. These two items stand the best chance of being preserved through conference and in negotiation with the White House.
If this bill turns into some sort of Christmas tree for additional health care provisions, then the reality is that these provisions are likely to come out of the bill entirely, and we will not be helping anybody. Consequently, particularly doctors are going to have to wait until spring or summer. Let's not let the best be the enemy of the good.
That is why I suggest we keep with the compromise in the bill and expect our committee, which we will do, to bring forth recommendations.
I yield the floor.
How much time do I have remaining?
Okay. I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from Arizona and then 3\1/2\ minutes to the Senator from Pennsylvania.
The Senator from Arizona used his 5 minutes, and I have yielded 3\1/2\ minutes to Senator Santorum.
Of my time?
If it is not more than 30 seconds and we can get the show on the road, let's do it.
I yield the remaining time to the Senator from Pennsylvania.
Mr. President, I yield back the remainder of my time.
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Mr. President, I want to convey to my colleagues my opposition to this amendment. During the markup of the foreign operations bill by the full Appropriations Committee, I offered an amendment to…
Mr. President, I want to convey to my colleagues my opposition to this amendment. During the markup of the foreign operations bill by the full Appropriations Committee, I offered an amendment to restore full International Military Education and Training to Indonesia. I believe full participation in this important program is essential to maintain our partnership with Indonesia in our global fight against terrorism. The restriction on the participation of Indonesia proposed by my colleague from Wisconsin will harm our relationship and impede our fight against terrorism in one of the front-line countries of this fight. I urge my colleagues to oppose this amendment. The Feingold amendment will send a message to the Indonesians that although we ask for their cooperation in our fight against international terrorism, we will not provide them with the training and tools necessary for that fight and view their country as not worthy of full participation in our international assistance programs. I do not believe this is the message we want to send to one of our critical allies. It is in our national interest to have a stable and democratic Indonesia and that their military is accountable and professional. We can work toward these goals through the participation of Indonesia's military in our IMET program.
Once again, I urge my colleagues to oppose the pending amendment.
Mr. President, I ask that a copy of the statement I made when I offered my amendment before the Appropriations Committee be printed in the Record.
The statement follows.
Introduction of the Amendment to Restore IMET to Indonesia
Mr. Chairman, together with my colleagues the senior
Senators from Alaska, Kentucky, and Missouri, I offer an
amendment to restore full International Military Education
and Training (IMET) program participation to Indonesia.
In April, Senators Stevens and I traveled to Asia. We
visited Indonesia where they had just brought into custody a
Muslim cleric who was quoted as having said, ``Osama bin
Laden is a lightweight.'' Indonesia has the world's largest
Muslim population and has only recently embraced democratic
principles. We must engage and support this fledgling
democracy by supporting reform of the military and helping to
build capacity to control and support modern, professional
armed forces. We believe that full access to IMET programs
will foster the necessary changes.
We also believe that the continued restriction on IMET
program participation of Indonesia sends a message to the
Indonesians. It is a message that they are second class
international citizens, unworthy of full participation in our
international assistance programs. Is this the message we
want to send?
I appreciate that this bill provides $400,000 for Expanded
(IMET (E-IMET) programs in Indonesia. However, the training
provided under E-IMER focuses on administration of the armed
forces and the dissemination of international human rights
information through the use of Mobile Education Teams that
are sent in country. The E-IMET program does provide valuable
skills in defense resource management and military justice,
but Indonesia needs to focus on professionalizing the
military. This can only be accomplished through our
assistance via the full IMET program.
I IMET program training is provided to all levels of the
military, from generals to enlisted personnel. This training,
much of which is provided in the United States, builds
invaluable connections between the United States and foreign
nations that provide long-term benefits. The Department of
Defense conducts a variety of activities for foreign military
and civilian officials. Formal instruction is offered
involving more than 2,000 courses taught at approximately 150
military schools and installations. The program is based upon
the premise that active promoting of democratic values is one
of the most effective means available for achieving U.S.
national security and foreign policy objectives and for
fostering peaceful relationships among the nations of the
world.
I understand that Senator Leahy views IMET as a reward and
does not believe it should be afforded to the TNI in light of
past abuses and failure to achieve the accountability
benchmarks set in last year's Foreign Operations
Appropriations bill. This is not a reward. IMET is a vehicle
to help TNI achieve those benchmarks. Indonesia has made some
progress toward meeting the Leahy conditions, but without
recognition of and response to what has been accomplished to
date, we will only bolster the arguments of those in
Indonesia opposed to reform who believe it is worthless to
try to please the United States since we are unwilling to
recognize their progress.
There are few countries in the world with democratic
governments where the rule of law is as firmly established as
in the United States. That cannot be our litmus test for
provision of assistance. Providing the requested assistance
to Indonesia would not be an exception to a well-established
rule. Our nation assists countries that are obviously not
democracies. Why do we do this? Because, it is in our
national interest. Were we helping a democracy when we
embarked on Operation Dessert Storm and put up our fortune
and our most precious resource, the lives of our soldiers?
No, we were not, but we were acting in our national interest.
It is in our national interest to have a stable and
democratic Indonesia. It is in our national interest that
Indonesia develops internal capabilities to address
international terrorism. It is in our national interest that
Indonesia's military is professional and accountable. We can
work toward these goals through the participation of
Indonesia's military in our IMET program.
Please be assured that I do not advocate lifting the
prohibition on the participation of Indonesia in the Foreign
Military Financing program. I believe a strong professional
and accountable TNI must be established before Indonesia's
participation in that program is renewed. However, I believe
participation in the full IMET program is vital to reaching
that goal, and I ask my colleagues to support this
amendment.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum. Mr. President, in the interest of fairness, although I do agree with my friend from Missouri, I ask unanimous consent that the sponsor of the…
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Mr. President, in the interest of fairness, although I do agree with my friend from Missouri, I ask unanimous consent that the sponsor of the amendment, Senator Feingold, have 5 minutes when he appears.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
I see Senator Feingold is on the floor. I did make arrangements for Senator Feingold to have an extra 5 minutes, and I call that to his attention. Senator Bond has just spoken on the Feingold amendment. There are 5 minutes for Senator Feingold to speak, if he wishes to do so.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
Reserving the right to object, Mr. President, I agree we should set this order. We are still working on it. We hope we will have a chance to have an amendment on one side and then the other. I will come later and try to intersperse these with amendments from our side of the aisle when they are identified.
Mr. President, I will have to reserve, I think, on one or more of those. There may be a second-degree amendment. I don't have any problem with the order, but I will come back.
That is fair. We will set the order and agree on the time; and if there is an amendment, if there is any identified, at the present time, Senators are willing to set the order with that understanding.
Yes.
Very well, I don't have any problem with that. But I do want to reserve the right to schedule amendments from this side in between if Senators wish to offer amendments in this period of time.
For the information of Senators, as I indicated last evening, we will have a series of amendments that we will offer in small groupings very soon. I believe we will have some amendments identified on our side of the aisle as soon as this first vote will begin. It is my understanding that the vote on Senator Feingold's amendment will commence at 11.
Is the Senator ready to start now?
That was my request.
We ask for the yeas and nays.
Mr. President, I move to reconsider the vote.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the next vote be 10 minutes in length.
I ask unanimous consent time for the vote on the Mikulski amendment be limited to 10 minutes.
I have no objection.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, the next amendment in order is Senator Murray's amendment. There is a minute on each side, if the Senator wishes to use it. I wish to state now we will accept this amendment and it will be included in the across-the-board cut as an offset. Because of an amendment that was adopted yesterday, we now have leeway in that ceiling that we self-imposed, and we can take the amendment of the Senator from Washington. I believe her amendment has the approval of the House also. Many of us want to vote for it. We are prepared to accept the amendment.
Let her offer it, please.
I understand the Senator from Rhode Island has a colloquy?
May I announce there will be no votes for a little while now. We have worked out we will have another series in a few minutes. Right now we would like to have the colloquy out of the way.
I urge we adopt the Murray amendment.
I inquire how much time the Senator from Rhode Island and the Senator from West Virginia wish for their colloquy?
Ten minutes total?
I ask unanimous consent the Senator from Rhode Island and the Senator from West Virginia be recognized for not to exceed 10 minutes total.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the time on the Kennedy amendment be 30 minutes equally divided.
My request was that the time on the Kennedy amendment be 30 minutes equally divided.
I also ask unanimous consent that the time on any amendment be limited to 30 minutes unless specifically requested otherwise by myself or the distinguished minority whip.
Mr. President, I renew that request.
The unanimous consent request is that the time on any amendment be limited to 30 minutes unless specifically requested otherwise by myself or the minority whip.
I can't agree on the Cantwell amendment. We can agree on the others.
Mr. President, this is an important program. As a matter of fact, the amendment I have offered provides $130 million more than the minority bill in the last Congress for these same programs. In addition, the amendment I have offered, the omnibus amendment, provides over $3.1 billion for minority health, education, and training initiatives which was not in the bill that was prepared in the last Congress when the leadership was on the other side of the aisle.
This $3.1 billion is an increase of $144.3 million over the level of fiscal year 2002, which is the operating level now.
Has the Senator's time expired?
Would the Senator consider reserving his 2 minutes and have 2 minutes reserved on this side, and let's put this off? I know many people have left the building now for lunch. I would like to see this vote started at 1:15. At that time the Senator would have 2 minutes, and I would have 2 minutes before that vote. Is the Senator agreeable to that?
It would be my hope, I say to the distinguished Democratic whip, that we would have a series of amendments stacked and start the votes at 1:15. A series of tabling motions, as a matter of fact, would occur at 1:15.
I don't have any objection to that. I think the third one will end when I make the motion to table.
Two McCains.
Clinton and two McCains, and we will have the vote take place at the end of the last of those.
Is that agreeable with the Senator from Massachusetts?
I have not yet made the motion to table because we have 2 minutes on a side. I will make it later. Is Senator Clinton prepared to proceed now?
We will put off the McCain amendment until the Senator has offered the amendment.
Amendment No. 89
(Purpose: To improve health care under the medicare and medicaid
programs)
Will the Senator yield?
Will the Senator entertain a time agreement now?
All right. Thank you.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the vote be moved to 1:45.
Mr. President, with much reservation, I rise today in support of the Feingold amendment. On August 31, 2002 several Americans in West Papua--Indonesia were brutally attacked by heavily armed…
Mr. President, with much reservation, I rise today in support of the Feingold amendment. On
August 31, 2002 several Americans in West Papua--Indonesia were brutally attacked by heavily armed assailants. Two Americans--Rick Spier and Ted Burgon--were murdered during the 35 minute ambush and many others were seriously wounded.
Last week, I met with Rick Spier's wife, Mrs. Patsy Spier, who was also shot three times during the attack. She described with much emotion the circumstances of the attack and the horrific result. I was saddened by her loss and angered by the Indonesian Government's failure to bring the perpetrators to justice. Following my meeting with Mrs. Spier, I contacted the Department of States and later received a detailed briefing from Deputy Assistant Secretary Matthew Daley. I also contacted the Federal Bureau of Investigation and expressed my interest in meeting the agents charged with investigation this case upon their return from Indonesia.
Following these meetings, I wrote to President Bush to express my strong views about this matter. I urged the President to press the Indonesian Government to conduct a comprehensive investigation into the attack. I further wrote that if the Indonesian Government fails to act, a severe diplomatic response, including the suspension of funding for the International Military Education Training Program for Indonesia, should be considered. I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record at the conclusion of my remarks my letter of January 16 to President Bush.
I am pleased that Senator Mitch McConnell, Chairman of the Foreign Operations Subcommittee, has included strong report language on Indonesia. As I noted in a colloquy with Senator McConnell, the references in the report language to the Americans murdered in West Papua and the demands that justice be served for these crimes were warranted and much appreciated.
The amendment before us would limit Indonesian military personnel to participation in the IMET program only, absent a presidential determination that the Indonesian government and armed forces are ``demonstrating a commitment to assist United States efforts to combat international terrorism'' and ``taking effective measures, including cooperating with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, to bring to justice any member of the Indonesian Armed Forces or Indonesian militia'' whom might be involved in the August 31 killings.
I understand that the Department of State opposes this amendment, which it believes would damage important U.S. foreign policy interest in Indonesia. In a letter sent to Senator McConnell, Assistant Secretary of State James Kelly wrote:
. . . the President has directed that we [the Department of
State] emphasize to the Government of Indonesia that there
must be a credible investigation and process of justice to
avoid damage in our entire bilateral relationship.
He further wrote:
In response to our repeated demarches, the Indonesian
government has agreed to a new investigation of this crime to
include FBI participation. FBI agents will arrive in
Indonesia on January 22 to explore the terms of their
participation in the investigation.
While I applaud the administration for its involvement in this issue and am encouraged by Indonesia Government's agreement to conduct a new investigation, I strongly believe that the murder of innocent Americans is unacceptable and demands serious action on our part. We cannot be seen as rewarding the Indonesian government for covering up the killing of Americans. Such an action would set a frightful precedent and give other nations the impression that the murder of Americans would not warrant a serious response on the part of the United States. Clearly, the IMET funding in this bill sends the wrong signal at the wrong time. Therefore, despite serious reservations, I will vote in support of the Feingold amendment.
Like many of my colleagues here in the Senate, I will continue to monitor this situation very closely, and should the Indonesian Government conduct a full and fair investigation, I will consider supporting new funding for Indonesia in the future.
Exhibit 1
U.S. Senate,
Washington, DC, January 16, 2003.
Hon. George W. Bush,
President, the White House,
Washington, DC.
Dear President Bush: I am writing to express my growing
concern about the lagging investigation into the August 31,
2002 attack on several Americans in West Papau, Indonesia.
Three people were killed, including two Americans, during the
attack, and eight others were seriously wounded.
As you may know, the Indonesian police completed its
preliminary investigation last fall and concluded that the
Indonesian military may have been responsible for the attack.
Despite being informed of the results of the police
investigation, the Indonesian military has failed to look
into this matter. In fact, press reports suggest that the
Indonesian military may have exonerated itself of any
responsibility.
I understand that senior officials at the Department of
State have expressed the concerns of your Administration
about the dogged pace of the investigation to the Indonesian
government. Your effort to determine who was responsible for
this brutal attack is commendable. However, more must be
done.
I urge you to press the Indonesian government to conduct a
comprehensive investigation into the attack. Such an
investigation should include active and meaningful
participation by United States law enforcement agencies who
should have complete access to evidence and witnesses.
The murder of innocent Americans overseas warrants a
serious response on our part. If the Indonesian government
fails to act, severe diplomatic actions, including the
suspension of IMET funding for Indonesia, should be
considered. We cannot afford to overlook further delays in
this important investigation.
Again, thank you for your efforts, and I look forward to
your response.
Sincerely,
Wayne Allard,
U.S. Senator.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. Mr. President, I rise today in strong opposition to the Feingold amendment. The Feingold amendment, as my…
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Mr. President, I rise today in strong opposition to the Feingold amendment. The Feingold amendment, as my colleagues probably know, deals with Indonesia and makes not too subtle suggestions about evil doings and suggests that we can only work with them in certain circumstances. As one who has traveled frequently to that region, I am very much disturbed by the intent and the apparent direction of this amendment.
It is very clear to the Government of Indonesia and its people that there is a legitimate terrorism threat in that country today. The tragic bombing in Bali, a major international tourist destination and the source of essential revenue in the country, brought the reality of terrorism squarely on the heads of the Indonesian Government. This is a country which, if superimposed geographically on the United States, would extend from San Francisco to Bermuda. It is the fourth largest country in the world, with the largest Muslim population in the world. It is also, unfortunately, home to many elements of al-Qaida and Jamaah Islamiyah, another Islamic terrorist group.
The tragic bombing in Bali, with almost 300 people killed, has brought home to that country the real threat of terrorism, and they are taking that threat seriously.
I have talked with our resources in the area, our embassies. I have talked with neighboring countries that are very much concerned about the future of Indonesia. We believe they are performing a credible and thorough investigation of the bombing. Arrests have been made. But the investigation continues and the Government is committed to arresting all those involved.
Indonesia is a majority Muslim nation. Many of its citizens, regrettably, hear continually from extreme elements within the country that the United States is targeting Muslims and is anti-Islam. This creates a very difficult political climate for the country's moderate Muslim President. She is one who has visited this country. I have met with her on a number of occasions, and I know she understands the importance of our relationship and the importance of their efforts against terrorism.
The country is making an effort now to investigate the terrorists who committed the bombing, to control the terrorism problem, and to strengthen the military.
I ask, Is this the best we can offer in the Senate to encourage cooperation between the two countries, to pursue a warmed-over agenda, to embarrass the military because some activist groups are not satisfied with the results of the tribunals that investigated the outrages in East Timor?
This is a time when we in the United States have to be serious about our relationship with moderate Muslim nations. We need to support the people within these countries who are resisting the extremists. It is a tremendous challenge for them to stand up to extreme voices. We should be supportive. We ought not to be sticking a finger in their eye. We ought not to be gratuitously slapping them in the face.
In the case of Indonesia, we should encourage strengthening those institutions which the Government will rely on to investigate terrorism, apprehend terrorists, and prevent further attacks. In Indonesia, the only institution with that capacity is the military.
I have talked with our Secretary of State and our Secretary of Defense, and I have asked them what we can do to improve our relations with Indonesia to assure they have the strength to resist terrorism and to provide their share of the role in the international battle against terrorism.
What they have said, quite frankly, to bipartisan groups in front of them is to stop congressional interference and slurs on the Indonesia military. Unfortunately, rather than moving in a sensible direction to encourage military-to-military contact, to take actions to raise the standards of their military to levels we are comfortable with and to promote relationships between officers, we would, by adopting this measure, pursue a course that insults the people, strains relations, and will aid the extremist elements in their efforts to demonize the United States.
This may be presented as a harmless amendment, one that can be satisfied easily by us and the Indonesians, but those people are our friends. Our allies in Southeast Asia take note of what we do; they hear our message. What we pass is loud, and it is clear; it resonates. It is not only a bad idea, it is dangerous.
We need to stand up and support our friends, especially in these challenging times. As I have met with friendly nations in Southeast Asia, they have been dumbfounded that we continue to insult, denigrate, and downgrade Indonesia. We should be supporting them.
This amendment is not grounded in legitimate policy concerns but, rather, in an ongoing interest by some to refight the East Timor battle year in and year out, despite the fact that East Timor is now an independent country. It is hollow all the way through.
I urge my colleagues to join with me in defeating this amendment, to send the message that we will support moderate Islam countries, struggling democracies trying to fight terrorism.
I thank the managers and yield the floor.
Mr. President, will the Senator yield?
Will the Senator yield for a question?
Mr. President, I am not speaking on the time on this side. I ask my colleague from Wisconsin if he has visited the area, if he has talked with our officials in the region, if he has talked with the people in governments who support us and who support Indonesia. Has he had the opportunity to find out what the impact of this amendment would be?
My understanding is that I am to be allotted 5 minutes in response to Senator Bond's comments on my amendment. I thank the Chair and I thank the managers for their fairness in light of the fact that…
My understanding is that I am to be allotted 5 minutes in response to Senator Bond's comments on my amendment.
I thank the Chair and I thank the managers for their fairness in light of the fact that we were going to have a minute on each side. I appreciate the understanding that I do want to respond to Senator Bond's remarks.
Senator Bond apparently has not actually read what my amendment does with regard to the Indonesian military and the IMET Program. Obviously, there is a terrorism threat in Indonesia today, as Senator Bond indicated. That is one of the conditions this amendment is all about. It is about making sure that Indonesia cooperates with us in fighting terrorist attacks, such as the ones that were so awfully perpetrated on the people in Bali.
What is even more troubling about Senator Bond's remarks is that he doesn't even mention the fact that apparently the Indonesian military was involved in an incident in Papua which killed American citizens.
Are we only going to be upset when American citizens are killed in Yemen and Kuwait or are we going to respond and expect standards of help and behavior from countries when our citizens are killed in a place such as Indonesia?
All this amendment does is try to make sure, as we continue our relationship with Indonesia--yes, a fledgling democracy--that we actually have accountability of that Indonesian military with which we would be involved. I am very troubled when we see the failure of cooperation with the FBI's reasonable request to deal with this awful murder of our citizens. We need a message to be sent clearly to the Indonesian Government, and in particular to the Indonesian military, that as the FBI returns to try to do this investigation again, we will get cooperation.
The whole point here is not that we are trying to cut off military help and assistance; it is that there have to be two preconditions to make sure it is a legitimate enterprise in which to be involved. One is that the Indonesian Government and military has to help us in dealing with terrorism; secondly, they need to help us get to the bottom of this awful massacre that occurred.
If Senators don't believe me, I refer them to the letter of Patricia Lynn Spier of Colorado, whose husband was brutally murdered in this incident. Ask her and the other families whether they think it is appropriate for the Indonesian military to investigate itself with regard to this incident or whether they should cooperate with the FBI.
Despite the attempt to distort what this amendment is about, my amendment is simple. Until the President determines that Indonesia is committed to fighting terrorism and committed to cooperating and investigating the murder of American citizens, my amendment would deny Indonesia access to IMET, though it would--I emphasize this to the Senator from Missouri--permit access to expanded IMET courses that are relevant to military reforms. So, yes, we want to promote a good relationship with the military in Indonesia, if these preconditions are met. We are going to continue counter-terrorism training, expanded IMET sales of nonlethal defense articles, officer visits, educational exchanges, and port visits. We are not cutting off these items.
I have the floor, Mr. President.
Let's be clear, because the Senator from Missouri did not mention this. Last August, two Americans were killed and eight were wounded in an ambush in West Papua, Indonesia. Indonesia's police investigated, and their report concluded that the Indonesian military was very likely responsible for the deaths of these Americans. When the investigation was turned over to the Indonesian military, it exonerated itself and it failed to fully cooperate not only with the Indonesian authorities but with our own FBI.
Some may say this amendment cuts off ties to the Indonesian military
when we need a strong coalition to fight terrorism. But nothing in my amendment will prohibit important national security programs, including counterterrorism training. Why would we hesitate? Why would we hesitate to condition one element--only one element--of our relationship with the Indonesian military on a demand that we simply get to the bottom of this incident? Real partners in the fight against terrorism do not murder American citizens and do not conspire to cover up such murders.
Mr. President, I reserve the remainder of my time.
How much time do I have?
I yield to the Senator for a question.
I have had daily contact with a wide variety of individuals we are concerned with, including some the Senator mentioned. I have been involved in this issue of Indonesia and East Timor for 10 years, since I have been a Member of the Senate and a member of the Subcommittee on Asia. I think I have a right to speak on this as much as the Senator from Missouri. When it comes to the deaths of American citizens, they should be cooperating with the FBI.
Mr. President, I ask for the yeas and nays.
Mr. President, I rise today to express my deep concern about a deadly attack that occurred last August in West Papua, Indonesia, and to call on the Government of Indonesia to cooperate fully with…
Mr. President, I rise today to express my deep concern about a deadly attack that occurred last August in West Papua, Indonesia, and to call on the Government of Indonesia to cooperate fully with U.S. law enforcement authorities to ensure that those responsible are brought to justice.
Ted Burgon of Oregon and Rick Spier of Colorado were gunned down along with an Indonesian, Bambang Riwanto. Eight Americans were injured: Nancy Burgon, Saundra Hopkins, Ken Balk, and Taia Hopkins, all of Oregon, Patsy Spier of Colorado, Francine Goodfriend of Illinois, Steven Emma of Florida, and Lynn Poston, of Washington State.
The victims, school teachers from the International School and their
families, were associated with the Freeport-McMoran mine in West Papua.
I speak to this issue because the bill before us restores funding for International Military Education and Training programs for Indonesia. Before we do that, I think we need some answers.
Mr. President, there is troubling evidence that members of the Indonesian military may have been behind the attack. It occurred less than half a mile from an Indonesian military outpost.
Hundreds of rounds were fired at the teachers and their vehicles during the ambush, which lasted 45 minutes, but the military was very slow to respond and failed to apprehend any of the assailants.
The Indonesian police promptly began an investigation. They collected evidence, interviewed witnesses, and reconstructed the ambush. The senior police official in charge said last December that there is evidence that soldiers from the army's strategic reserve force were involved in the shooting. This same senior police official also reported last November that a witness to the ambush reported seeing members of the Indonesian army's special forces participating in the attack.
The motive? The Army may have hoped to blame the murders on West Papuan rebels who have been fighting a low level insurgency for years seeking independence from Indonesia.
Bottom line: The police report on the murders concludes, quote: ``there is a strong possibility that the case was perpetrated by members of the Indonesian National Army Force, however, it still needs to be investigated further.''
Well, guess what happened? After they pointed the finger at the military, the two senior police officials on the case, General Raziman and Assistant Senior Police Commissioner Sumarjiyo were mysteriously transferred, removed from all responsibility for investigating the murders.
The investigation was handed over to the Indonesian military itself! Not surprisingly, the military concluded that the armed forces had nothing to do with the killings.
Mr. President, this is the same military that denied all culpability for gross violations of human rights over 25 years in East Timor and Aceh. The same military that has armed, trained, and protected militant Islamic groups associated with grotesque, religiously motivated attacks on innocent civilians elsewhere in Indonesia.
Mr. President, it is essential that the United States secure the full support of Indonesia--a nation of 200 million people, most of them Muslims--in the war on terrorism.
Indonesia itself has been the target of terrorists, as we witnessed last year in the terrible bombing on Bali that left hundreds dead and injured, many of them Australian tourists.
It is appropriate that in the wake of 9/11, the United States has sought ways to strengthen our ties to Indonesia, including considering the resumption of normal military training for the Indonesian Army. Civilian authorities in Jakarta and some officers within the military are trying to end the culture of impunity that has prevailed for the past 30 years. I think it is in our national interests to establish appropriate links to the Indonesian armed forces to improve their professionalism, enhance intelligence sharing, and help prevent future terrorist attacks in Indonesia or elsewhere.
But that does not mean we should turn a blind eye to continuing abuses by the Indonesian Army.
We will not be doing ourselves or the Indonesian people any favors if we ally ourselves with those who may themselves be responsible for criminal acts.
Before we jump to restore IMET funding for Indonesia, I hope that President Bush will give us his assurance that we are getting the full cooperation of Indonesian authorities. The FBI should have full access to all the evidence and to the witnesses to the attack. An independent investigation should be launched of the possible Indonesian military involvement.
These are American citizens we are talking about. Victims, perhaps, of a cynical effort to manipulate United States public opinion and convince our government to increase aid to the Indonesian armed forces as part of the war on terrorism. We need to get to the bottom of what happened.
I object. I remove my objection. What is the regular order? Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk and ask for its immediate consideration. The amendment is numbered 214. I ask unanimous…
I object.
I remove my objection.
What is the regular order?
Mr. President, I send an amendment to the desk and ask for its immediate consideration. The amendment is numbered 214.
I ask unanimous consent to dispense with the reading of the amendment.
Mr. President, as soon as the Senator from Minnesota arrives in the Chamber, I intend to propose a time agreement so we can dispense with this amendment. I would like to consult with cosponsors before we do. I don't think this issue needs to be debated very long. But I will propose a time agreement very shortly.
I offer an amendment to a provision of a bill regarding a project to construct an outlet in Devils Lake, ND. The project is very controversial and its impact extends well beyond North Dakota into Minnesota, Missouri, and Canada. I am pleased to be joined in support of this by Senators Dayton and Coleman.
The outlet from the landlocked lake allows contaminated water to flow into neighboring waterways, causing the introduction of invasive species.
I ask unanimous consent to have letters of support be printed in the Record.
The Canadian Government is so concerned that it was a leading item in recent talks between President Bush and the Prime Minister of Canada.
The provision authorizes $5 million for construction and a total of $100 million for the Corps of Engineers to have completed their feasibility study or environmental review. In fact, the Corps has indicated they do not believe the outlet would accomplish the purpose for which it was intended.
There is a letter from the Canadian Ambassador addressed to the Honorable Bill Young, chairman of the Appropriations Committee that I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record.
In part it reads:
While Canada sympathizes with North Dakota's problems with
Devils Lake flooding, it cannot agree to a solution that
poses a genuine threat to Canadian water resources, as well
as to those of other states. There are alternative, internal
solutions available to North Dakota, including the
construction of additional flood protection works and the
pursuit of upper basin storage approaches. Canada urges that
additional funds not be provided for the Devils Lake outlet
project unless and until all of the issues it raises are
thoroughly addressed through studies repeatedly mandated by
Congress, and following meaningful consultation with Canada
under the 1909 Boundary Waters Treaty.
From a technical standpoint, there is serious doubt that an
outlet with the proposed capacity would have any demonstrable
effect on the level of Devils Lake. After thorough review,
the Corps of Engineers announced in a June 1999 press release
its conclusion that an outlet is not the necessary or
appropriate solution, at this time, and recommended a review
of alternatives. Restoration of drained wetlands is one
possibility. As Devils Lake has no natural outlet, its high
levels may well have been exacerbated by the amount of run-
off from drained wetlands in the basin.
I have had extended conversations with both Senators from North Dakota. I do not claim to have extensive education and expertise on this issue. I think it is serious when we have these concerns by Canada and neighboring States and there is not a cost-benefit analysis.
My friends from North Dakota point out that it is under the way in which that cost-benefit analysis is conducted. With a basin such as this, that catches water and does not release water, as happens in the case of rivers, this is very difficult, if not impossible, to do. I still believe we should be able to fashion some kind of formula to find out what the cost-benefit ratio is.
I also point out that, thanks to the good efforts of the Senators from North Dakota, $350 million has been spent in the last several years, raising highways and relocating individuals who live in proximity to Devils Lake.
There are concerns raised. I think the concerns are serious. I also assured my colleagues from North Dakota that I will send my staff out to North Dakota.
I will be glad to yield.
I would like to wait, if it is agreeable to the Senator from Alaska. I understand the senior Senator from Minnesota is on his way. If you could give me about 3 or 4 minutes?
The senior Senator, as well as the junior Senator, from Minnesota, have views on this issue. I would not like to enter into a time agreement until such time as they at least are consulted. But I am sure they would be agreeable to a reasonable time limit.
I did discuss with my colleagues from North Dakota that I sent staff out to
Devils Lake to further look at this situation. I understand and appreciate their long involvement--I understand 9 years--in this issue. I would be more than willing to learn more about this issue.
At this time, I yield the floor.
Reserving the right to object. Mr. President, I wish to pose a question to the Senator from New York, if I may. Do I understand the offset is with Customs user fees; is that correct? Mr. President, I…
Reserving the right to object.
Mr. President, I wish to pose a question to the Senator from New York, if I may. Do I understand the offset is with Customs user fees; is that correct?
Mr. President, I object because the Customs user fees would be one of the worst offsets we could provide, given the obligations of the Homeland Security Department with Customs security at our borders.
Mr. President, I have already objected to the modification of the amendment because it includes an offset of U.S. Customs Service fees. I have talked to the Senator from New York about my commitment to try to find a way in the Finance Committee to develop a plan very early in this year to find the reimbursement capability for the health care providers that are included within her amendment because I have in the past cosponsored legislation which would provide for adequate reimbursement to all of the health care professions.
To set the record straight, we have ensured in this legislation that the cut that was going to take place in physician reimbursements will not take place. Additionally, there is funding for the rural hospitals. That will be done because those were the emergency requirements that we deal with in this legislation.
In addition to that, the add-ons to the reimbursements to all of the other providers that are the subject of the amendment of the Senator from New York are set to expire. It is my intention to work with the Senator from New York to find a way to ensure that we can continue those add-ons. That can be done in the Finance Committee, and I am hopeful we will be able to do that.
The first point I want to make is that the true emergency--the physicians--is being taken care of in this legislation. The expiration of the add-ons is something I will work on with the Senator from New York to try to accomplish, but we cannot do it by offsetting Customs user fees. At a time when we are asking the Customs Department to aid us in the war on terror at our borders and they are stretched as thin as they can possibly be stretched, it would be the absolute wrong thing to do. In talking with the Senator from New York, I am sure she agrees that if this is, in fact, what would happen, this would not be a necessarily good thing, that the funding that ordinarily would accrue to the Customs Service would not necessarily accrue to the Customs Service if an offset is permitted for this particular program.
I will quote two things from a statement before the Terrorism Subcommittee last year. Bonni Tischler, the Acting Director of the Customs Service, testified, and I will quote a couple of things she said. I asked her about the effect of an offset on Customs user fees. She said: My personal opinion is it would severely hamper us.
Later on she said: Yes, we would be severely hampered in how we operated.
Then in a letter from the Customs Service from the Acting Commissioner which was sent to all of us--it was actually a memorandum from the Under Secretary for Enforcement--the point was that it would negatively impact the available funding from the Customs Service.
I think my bone fides are pretty good. I helped to defeat a proposal of my chairman, Chairman Grassley, which was also going to be using the Customs user fees as an offset. This is the wrong way to achieve what may well be good objectives, and therefore I was constrained to object.
We are all in agreement that we cannot allow the reimbursements to physicians to be cut in March. We are taking care of that in this legislation. In addition, we should try to find ways to prevent the add-ons, or the other health care providers, from not continuing to be in effect throughout the next year. It is my commitment to try to work with the Senator from New York in a way to ensure that happens as part of the Finance Committee deliberations probably on the Medicare legislation.
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Mr. President, will the Senator yield? Mr. President, I compliment the chairman of the Finance Committee. I will work with him. I tell the chairman of the Appropriations Committee, if these…
Mr. President, will the Senator yield?
Mr. President, I compliment the chairman of the Finance Committee. I will work with him. I tell the chairman of the Appropriations Committee, if these amendments had come up, we would have had problems. There were about three S-CHIP amendments. We will not do the amendments on the appropriations bill. We will work to try to make it possible to do them through the Budget Committee. If we did pass one, it would go over to the House, and the House--which did pass a budget, and they have exceeded their authorization--they would stop it. I think this is the best way to work. When we pass a new budget resolution, we will supersede last year's budget resolution. We will be able to do this in regular order through the Finance Committee.
I look forward to working with the chairman, and also Senator Snowe, Senator Collins, Senator Rockefeller, and others who have strong interests in trying to make sure these unexpended funds that are set aside for S-CHIP can be appropriately used.
Mr. President, will the Senator from New York yield?
I heard the Senator mention a modification, but I have not seen it yet. I am concerned in reading page 15, section 302, about budget scorekeeping, that the Senator is modifying the Budget Act or trying to waive the Budget Act.
For the Senator's information, none of us has a copy of the modification. This Senator, for one, is going to be very reluctant to agree to anything if we are modifying the budget or waiving the budget.
I warn my colleague, she cannot be throwing up a modification and saying we want you to accept this when the amendment deals with substantive issues. The amendment deals with entitlements, with issues that are under the Finance Committee jurisdiction. I have made five speeches saying we should not be doing authorizing work on an appropriations bill without the appropriate committees having significant time to review the bill.
Mr. President, for the information of my colleagues, correct me--parliamentary inquiry--I do not believe there has been a modification agreed to.
The modification has a tax increase to pay for it, I understand that, but that may have some problems in itself. I want all of our colleagues to know the amendment has not been modified as of yet.
Mr. President, to inform my colleague from New York, at least at this point I have not decided to object to a unanimous consent to modify her amendment, but I am concerned about the amendment. I am concerned about the modification, of which I have just now received a copy. I think I have the first copy on this side of the aisle.
These are entitlement changes. They are expensive and they affect a lot of people.
I will also tell my colleague from New York, there are a lot of us who have a lot of interest in a whole lot of these provisions. Being on the Finance Committee, I have worked with a lot of provider groups that have an interest in Medicare modifications and updates. This should go through the Finance Committee, and it should be bipartisan. Ninety- some-odd percent of the Medicare adjustments that have ever been made since Medicare's inception have been bipartisan.
I might mention that when I read language we are going to waive the budget and/or now we are going to raise taxes, that is not bipartisan; that is not working together.
I reserve the right to object on the modification, but I say to my colleagues, this is the type of bill that should have regular order, should go through the committees, should be bipartisan through the committees, with input from all members of those committees, instead of being on an appropriations bill where we have not had a chance to thoroughly analyze it to a greater degree.
I think we have some mutual objectives that can be accomplished in short order, but I do not believe this is the right way to do it today.
Mr. President, I have conferred with the manager of the bill on what the Democrats would like to do in offering their amendments. I understand there will be Republican amendments interspersed. Our…
Mr. President, I have conferred with the manager of the bill on what the Democrats would like to do in offering their amendments. I understand there will be Republican amendments interspersed. Our first amendment with Senator Kennedy, there has been a 30-minute time agreement on that; that has been agreed to. I ask unanimous consent that that be approved. Senator Clinton, amendment No. 89, a time agreement of 30 minutes, evenly divided; Senator Bingaman, amendment No. 138, I have no time agreement on that; Senator Cantwell, amendment No. 108, a 30-minute time agreement; Senator Nelson, amendment No. 178, a 10-minute time agreement equally divided; Senator Corzine, amendment No. 233, I have no time agreement on that.
The only thing I would ask, Mr. President, is that there would be no amendments except as I have already talked about to the manager of the bill. The Nelson amendment----
Then eliminate the time on the amendment. I ask that the--
Should we eliminate the time though?
Why don't we have the time applicable unless you decide to offer a second-degree.
I did mention that.
I announce that the Senator from Iowa (Mr. Harkin), the Senator from Hawaii (Mr. Inouye), and the Senator from Connecticut (Mr. Lieberman) are necessarily absent.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
I move to lay that motion on the table.
The motion to lay on the table was agreed to.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that on the Clinton amendment numbered 89 the time be equally divided and limited to 30 minutes, and that there be no second-degree amendments in order prior to the vote.
Mr. President, on amendment No. 138 offered by Senator Bingaman, I ask unanimous consent that debate be limited to 30 minutes and that there be no second-degree amendment prior to the vote.
I have included the Clinton amendment numbered 89 with 30 minutes equally divided; the Bingaman amendment numbered 138 with 30 minutes equally divided, and I would like to do the same on the Cantwell amendment.
Those two will be fine.
Mr. President, staff has indicated that we were perhaps not clear on the Kennedy amendment. There would be no second-degree amendment prior to the vote.
Mr. President, if the Senator would yield, reserving the right to object, it is my understanding what we are planning on trying to do--Senator Clinton is in the Chamber, and she is willing to offer her amendment. There is 30 minutes on that which would take us until about 12:30. I understand Senator McCain is available.
My only statement here, in reserving my right to object, is that it is good we are stacking these votes. I have no problem with that. But I would rather we did it when the debate on the third one ends.
Let's do that. Let's have Clinton. Let's have McCain.
There are two McCains? OK, fine. We would do those and then have three stacked votes.
I think that is appropriate.
We are going to have a series of votes starting at approximately 1:15, 1:30.
Mr. President, I understand the Senator from Iowa, Mr. Grassley, controls the time; is that right?
I ask for 30 seconds.
Yes.
I say to everyone on that side of the aisle, we are going to have a vote on this amendment one way or the other. It is not that hard to do. So I think rather than having two votes, we should have one. I suggest that as the votes have gone in the last week or so, they have not been too favorable for us, and I do not know what the fear is of having a vote. We are going to have a vote sometime today. I thank the Senator very much for the 30 seconds.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that Senator Dorgan be recognized for 5 minutes, Senator Dayton for 10 minutes, Senator McCain for 2 minutes, and following that the debate on this be ended.
I thank the Senator from Iowa. I take this opportunity today to keep the Senate updated as to the ``spendometer'' that is flying now at a very high rate of speed as a result of the last few…
I thank the Senator from Iowa. I take this opportunity today to keep the Senate updated as to the ``spendometer'' that is flying now at a very high rate of speed as a result of the last few amendments. We have been going through all the different amendments, and now they are at such a level I will not detail them all, but as of the last time I spoke with this chart, we were at $341 billion. That was yesterday at about this time. So within a 24-hour period, we have gone from $341 billion added to the deficit, with the inclusion of the amendments that have yet to be voted on--which are the Clinton, the Kennedy, the Cantwell, and the Bingaman amendments--with those votes we will be almost to the grand total of a half a trillion dollars in new spending being proposed over the next 10 years by Members on the other side of the aisle.
These are additions to the baseline which CBO will score as an amount that will be added to with inflation, plus the interest costs of carrying this additional deficit.
So when we hear the other side talk about how we cannot afford any relief for the taxpayer, we cannot afford any economic stimulus package because we will add to the deficit, this is money they want to add to bills that should have been passed 3 months ago.
In a matter of a month or two, we will consider the 2004 budget. I suspect we will see amendments probably double or triple this amount to add to the 2004 budget on top of what they wanted to add to the 2003 budget. We are looking at an enormous expansion of Government that has been voted on almost unanimously by the Members on the other side of the aisle. Some of them, I agree, have been voted by us and I condemn us for the ones that we have voted for, but they have been rather small amounts of money.
I argue that we are heading down a path of Government growth in spending that is simply not sustainable in this economy, and we need to focus on growing the economy, not growing Government.
This is a fundamental difference between the two sides of the aisle. We are about growing the economy through putting more money out in the private sector. They are about growing the Government in the last week to the tune of almost a half trillion dollars in new spending over the next 10 years.
That is fine. If they want to go out to the American public and say we think the answers to the economic woes this country is suffering are going to be met with more Government spending to the tune of a half trillion dollars over the next 10 years, go out and make the case, but do not make the case that we do not have money to help this economy grow because we are concerned about deficits.
No one who proposes half a trillion dollars in new spending--and, by the way, votes for it almost unanimously--can make a legitimate claim that they are worried about deficits. One cannot be worried about deficits and vote unanimously, almost to a person on the other side, for almost half a trillion dollars in new spending over the next 10 years. It is inconsistent. It is not honest.
Let's be consistent. We are either for more spending, we are for higher deficits, or we are for growth in the economy. That is the difference between the two parties. Let's face the facts.
I yield the remainder of my time.
Mr. President, this amendment by the Senator from Massachusetts would increase funding by nearly $600 million. It would increase funding for programs at the National Center on Minority Health and…
Mr. President, this amendment by the Senator from Massachusetts would increase funding by nearly $600 million. It would increase funding for programs at the National Center on Minority Health and Health Disparities, the Office of Minority Health at the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), the Office for Civil Rights at HHS, the Department's Minority HIV/AIDS initiative, and the Health Resources and Services Administration's (HRSA) Health Professionals Training for Diversity Programs.
I support these programs. In fact, many of these programs were established or authorized by legislation that I authored, including the Minority Health and Health Disparities Act of 2000 and the Health Professions Education Partnership Act of 1998.
However, this amendment provides no offsets for these spending increases. At a time when we are facing significant spending pressures, it is irresponsible to propose such spending without specifying how to pay for them; and, although I support and will continue to support these programs, I must oppose this amendment.
I would also note that the bill we are considering already contains significant increases in many of these programs, and I would commend Senators Stevens and Specter for their good work in this area. In fact, for the National Center on Minority Health and Health Disparities and for the Office of Minority Health, the bill before us today contains exactly the same funding levels as the Democrats provided in their July 2002 Labor-HHS Appropriations bill.
In the case of Health Professions' programs in general, and the Health Professionals Training for Diversity program in particular, the bill already contains a drastic increase from that provided in the Democrats' July bill. For the Health Professionals Training for Diversity program that this amendment targets, I would point out that the underlying bill contains $125 million--an increase from the previous fiscal year--and that this program was zeroed out by the Democrats in July. For them to now say that we are not providing sufficient funding is disingenuous and disgraceful.
I am disappointed by this attempt to politicize an important issue that we have successfully worked in the past to address on a bipartisan basis. I have made this issue of health disparities a priority over the past several years, and hope that, together, we can make additional strides in an area of health disparities in the coming year.
I believe it would be about 10 minutes. Mr. President, I have been working for the last several months with a bipartisan group of Members from the House and Senate to protect funding for the State…
I believe it would be about 10 minutes.
Mr. President, I have been working for the last several months with a bipartisan group of Members from the House and Senate to protect funding for the State Children's Health Insurance Program, also known as S-CHIP, which provides critical health care to millions of children. In Rhode Island, over 12,000 children participate in this program. There is strong, bipartisan support for a 2-year S-CHIP proposal developed last fall that would preserve $2.7 billion in Federal S-CHIP funds that either expired at the end of fiscal year 2002 or will expire at the end of the current fiscal year. Our proposal also establishes a redistribution formula for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services to use to quickly redistribute unspent fiscal year 2000 funds to those states that have exhausted their allotments and need additional funds.
Under Federal law, CMS is required to redistribute all unspent 2000 funds this year, but there is no Federal requirement on what formula it should use. CMS is currently holding off redistributing unspent 2000 funds because it is awaiting Congressional action. However, a few States, including Rhode Island, need the redistribution of 2000 funds as soon as possible so they have sufficient funds for the rest of the year to maintain services to the children currently enrolled in S-CHIP.
This S-CHIP issue is very time-sensitive. If we do not remedy this situation soon, some States may scale back S-CHIP eligibility because they will assume they will have far less in Federal funds available than previously expected.
Unfortunately, it appears that we cannot address this issue in the omnibus appropriations bill. I appreciate the willingness of the chairman of the Finance and budget Committees, Senators Grassley and Nickles, to work with us to address this issue in both the fiscal year 2004 budget resolution and then to move this legislation quickly in the Finance Committee.
I also think it is imperative for us to work with CMS so that they can move forward to begin to redistribute some of the unspent 2000 funds to States like mine that are facing a serious S-CHIP funding problem. As Congress moves ahead to complete action on this proposal, CMS should move forward on the immediate redistribution of these funds.
Mr. President, will the Senator yield for a question? Can the Senator tell me whether this amendment addresses the indirect medical education cost issue? Mr. President, I say to the Members of the…
Mr. President, will the Senator yield for a question?
Can the Senator tell me whether this amendment addresses the indirect medical education cost issue?
Mr. President, I say to the Members of the Senate, I hope they have listened carefully to their hospital administrators across their States, particularly at teaching hospitals which we count on to deal with some of the most complicated medical cases that are presented, and also hospitals that are responsible for teaching the next generation of specialists, including children's hospitals.
If the Senator from New York does not prevail, I can tell her that in my State of Illinois, some of the very best and most important care will be compromised, and we will see the next generation of doctors who we want to be the best and brightest in America not being prepared. How can that be in the best interest of medical care in Illinois, New York, Iowa, or Oklahoma?
I salute the Senator from New York. We have talked about a lot of amendments to this appropriations bill, but I wish to ask the Senator in closing----
Does she believe, with the offset she has come up with, that we have avoided any budget complaints that this bill is not being paid for?
Objection. Mr. President, will the Senator from New York yield? Mr. President, I say to the Senator from New York, it is not a question of whether we address this issue; it is a question of when and…
Objection.
Mr. President, will the Senator from New York yield?
Mr. President, I say to the Senator from New York, it is not a question of whether we address this issue; it is a question of when and how. This is a very serious issue. It has a profound impact especially on rural hospitals but on all hospitals and all facilities that provide patient care. This Congress has to address this issue.
I really appreciate the amendment the Senator has offered. I hope perhaps we can begin the process of addressing it today. If not, it has to be soon.
If I might ask a question, it has been interesting to hear this discussion. I saw the tote board.
If I might ask a question, the discussion was quite interesting. I will be very brief.
Our colleague said our position is to grow Government. I am wondering if growing Government would be something that occurs as a result of proposals that dramatically increase the Federal deficit. Is it the case that those who would propose and support policies that dramatically increase the deficit, such as a $1.7 trillion tax cut or $690 billion tax cut, all of which is borrowed, is it the case that would target the growth of the economy?
Will my colleague yield for a question? Mr. President, I am happy to cosponsor this amendment. I will ask the Senator a question. We in New York--and I think it is true throughout the country--are…
Will my colleague yield for a question?
Mr. President, I am happy to cosponsor this amendment. I will ask the Senator a question. We in New York--and I think it is true throughout the country--are seeing that our providers, whether they be hospitals or clinics or home health care, are laying off people and are not able to do the job anymore that they once did. There is no more fat in the system. We cut that out in New York in the 1980s, and then we did it further federally in the 1990s.
Aside from the No. 1 job, which is to provide the best health care possible to our seniors and others, aren't our cutbacks in New York and elsewhere causing the economy to go down even further because of the layoffs of many people? These are some of the poorest citizens--people who just climbed the ladder, with health care jobs, particularly at the entry level, which are important to immigrants and so many others. Doesn't she believe her amendment might have a small stimulative effect on the economy, and, conversely, not doing this amendment and allowing the cuts to go deeper would hurt our economy throughout the country?
We don't need that much. Mr. President, following on what the Senator from Rhode Island said, it is extremely important that we get it done immediately. This is a two-part problem. One is the $1.5…
We don't need that much.
Mr. President, following on what the Senator from Rhode Island said, it is extremely important that we get it done immediately. This is a two-part problem. One is the $1.5 billion shortfall in this fiscal year, and the $1.6 billion in the second fiscal year. The States have the money. Since we did not put the program under Medicaid at the very beginning, States started at various rates. Some were faster than others. Therefore, not all the money has been used. Rather than return it to the Treasury where it can't help any child at all--we still have 8 million, or 10 million, or 12 million children who need to be insured. We need to do the short-term fix, which is what this colloquy is about. Then we need to get to a longer term fix in the Finance Committee. I look forward to working with Chairman Grassley and Chairman Baucus to mark up a bill which will accomplish this objective on an annual basis, and then, of course, move on to the next logical step, which is to include the parent or parents of those same children.
I thank the Chair.
Mr. President, this is exactly the wrong time to be taking away IMET from the Indonesian military. For 10 years they were prohibited from having the kind of military-to-military relationship with us…
Mr. President, this is exactly the wrong time to be taking away IMET from the Indonesian military. For 10 years they were prohibited from having the kind of military-to-military relationship with us that helps upgrade their military and teach them about human rights and to do the right thing regarding their own people. It took a long time to get IMET restored, and the leader of that effort was Senator Inouye of Hawaii--that bipartisan effort to get IMET restored. Now we would take a step in the wrong direction.
(At the request of Mr. McConnell, the following statement was ordered to be printed in the Record.)
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that a letter from the State Department opposing this amendment be printed in the Record.
There is objection. Reserving the right to object, Mr. President, the Senate is not in order. I ask unanimous consent the rollcall on the Mikulski amendment be postponed until such time to be called…
There is objection. Reserving the right to object, Mr. President, the Senate is not in order.
I ask unanimous consent the rollcall on the Mikulski amendment be postponed until such time to be called up as agreed upon by the two managers. We think we can work something out.
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[S. 1591 Enrolled Bill (ENR)]
S.1591
One Hundred Eighth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE FIRST SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Tuesday,
the seventh day of January, two thousand and three
An Act
To redesignate the facility of the United States Postal Service located
at 48 South Broadway, Nyack, New York, as the ``Edward O'Grady, Waverly
Brown, Peter Paige Post Office Building''.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. DESIGNATION OF BUILDING.
(a) Designation.--The facility of the United States Postal Service
located at 48 South Broadway, Nyack, New York, and known as the ``Nyack
Post Office'' shall be known as the ``Edward O'Grady, Waverly Brown,
Peter Paige Post Office Building''.
(b) References.--Any reference in a law, map, regulation, document,
paper, or other record of the United States to the facility referred to
shall be deemed to be a reference to the ``Edward O'Grady, Waverly
Brown, Peter Paige Post Office Building''.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate.