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Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.
November 12, 2003
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November 12, 2003
Read twice and referred to the Committee on Finance.
November 12, 2003
Floor Debate
20 membersWhat members said about S. 1853 on the floor
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Floor Debate
20 membersWhat members said about S. 1853 on the floor
Mr. President, I have been listening to this debate and the populist arguments being made by Democrats who seem to think that having Federal judgeship nominees treated fairly, as they always have…
Mr. President, I have been listening to this debate and the populist arguments being made by Democrats who seem to think that having Federal judgeship nominees treated fairly, as they always have been in the past, once they have been brought to the floor, seems to be not right because they think we ought to do something about jobs.
Well, why haven't they? This recession began in the last year of the Clinton administration. I went through just some of the things that show they have had a pattern of obstruction from day 1 around here since we have taken over control of the Senate.
The pattern of obstruction was set on the first day of the 108th Congress when the motion to adjourn was forced to a rollcall vote, something that is usually never done. The long overdue 2003 appropriations bills were finally enacted after we became the majority in 2003, on February 20.
For the first time in history, filibusters were used to defeat the President's circuit court nominees. I have mentioned upwards of 15 that some Democrats have told me they are going to filibuster. They are not going to filibuster all of them, but they are certainly filibustering already more than four. There are six right now by the time you get through with Friday.
I can tell you, there are a whole raft of others they are planning on filibustering. First time in history, treating a President like dirt, and these nominees, which is even more important in this sense, because these nominees--we are going to find that we cannot get the top people in the country to take these positions, especially if they are very liberal or very conservative, even though they are in the mainstream. And that is a big phony shibboleth. Every time they say: Well, they are outside the mainstream of American jurisprudence. They were saying that about Bill Pryor, criticizing the cases that he won as the Alabama attorney general before the Supreme Court. So who is out of the mainstream? It certainly is not Bill Pryor, nor is it any of these other nominees.
Like I say, Priscilla Owen, who has been held up for 3 years now-- better than 3 years--Priscilla Owen is on the Texas Supreme Court. She was one of the first women partners in this country. She broke through the ``glass ceiling'' for women. They ought to be giving her a medal instead of treating her in this despicable fashion, and they are only doing it because these inside-the-beltway groups control, in many respects, what they do. It all comes down to abortion.
Now, there are sincere people on both sides of that issue. That is why I did not allow the issue of abortion to stop otherwise qualified candidates from getting a vote up or down on the floor, even though I am personally pro-life and cannot imagine why anybody would want to go for a regime of abortion on demand. There were 1.6 million abortions a year at one time. Forty million abortions in this country--the barbaric practice of partial-birth abortion, which many of my colleagues voted for, even some on this side.
Let me go down a few further here: Needed legal reforms, I mentioned, to stop lawsuit abuse against doctors, businesses, and industries have been virtually banned by the tactics of the minority.
Jobs have been lost right and left because of their refusal to allow decent laws to be passed. Medical liability, class action reform, gun liability, and asbestos lawsuit reforms have all been subject to delays or filibusters by our colleagues on the other side.
As I said, we spent 22 days on an Energy bill last year, and then we had to spend 18 days on an Energy bill this year, when we basically enacted the same bill we did last year.
Bioshield legislation is very important for those of us who work heavily in the area of health care and antiterrorism. Bioshield legislation is necessary to ensure proper vaccines and medicines to counter bioterrorism attacks has still not cleared objections.
The State Department reauthorization was stalled by Democrats insisting upon unrelated poison-pill amendments being voted on prior to passage.
The District of Columbia appropriations bill is subject to a rolling filibuster threat over a provision giving low-income students school choice, where we spend over $11,000 per student and have the lousiest school system in the country.
Last year Senate Democrats failed to pass a budget resolution for the first time since the Budget Act was written in 1974, and they have the gall to come in here and say: Well, we ought to be taking care of jobs.
We are going to take care of jobs if we can get some cooperation from them. But all the taking care of jobs in the world may not amount to much if we do not have a good Federal judiciary to make this system work, to make sure our constitutional way of life continues.
They passed no welfare reform. They took no action to ban cloning. They passed no Medicare prescription drug plan. They confirmed a record low number of judges. They enacted only 2 of the 13 appropriations bills and delayed enactment of a Homeland Security Department for months. It is this
dismal record of inaction that Democrats hope to repeat.
Now, we are committed to delivering the Healthy Forests bill and the CARE Act to the President's desk. The Democrats are refusing to name conferees to the bill that passed with strong bipartisan support. I could go on and on.
But my friend from Nevada--it is kind of interesting to me that he would take 10 hours out of the Senate's time on Monday to filibuster, when we all came here prepared to vote on appropriations bills.
I think it is pretty bad to come in here and say that we should not do what we should for judges, when they themselves have been filibustering not just judges but virtually everything else with a slow walk.
I am glad to yield, without losing my right to the floor.
Sure.
That is correct.
That is correct. These are the most confidential private papers of the Solicitor General's Office, the lawyer who represents all of the public.
That is correct. Four of the seven former Solicitors General were leading Democrats, who said that what the Democrats are doing is wrong.
Right.
That is right.
They both worked there. They both were excellent appellate lawyers. By the way, Estrada worked not only with the Bush administration but with the Clinton administration. And he had high marks.
A unanimous voice vote on the floor, but only after waiting 12 years through three nominations by two different Presidents.
John Roberts, who was one of the finest appellate lawyers in the country, as was Miguel Estrada, was treated completely differently once the Judiciary Committee considered him. And I had to force them to consider him. Yet he passed this body by unanimous consent.
That is exactly right. They treated Miguel Estrada differently from John Roberts.
Not a legitimate reason. The only reason was they believed him to be pro-life. I don't know whether he is to this day because we do not ask those questions.
The phony reason.
The phony reason they hid behind.
But let me make this point. Miguel Estrada, as great an attorney as he is, having argued 15 cases before the Supreme Court, having the highest recommendation of the American Bar Association, their gold standard, they did not want him to come through this process because they knew, or at least they perceived, that he was on the fast track to become the first Hispanic on the Supreme Court and they just cannot tolerate having a conservative Hispanic on the Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia, let alone on the Supreme Court.
That is absolutely right. But even Roberts had to go through a lot of pain to get there--12 years waiting, nominated three times by two different Presidents.
We put him out of the committee after a 12-hour hearing. You hardly have that much for Supreme Court nominees. There were two others on that list. They complained because there were three on one day's hearing. They ignored the fact that Ted Kennedy, when he was chairman, had seven circuit nominees one day, and another four. We had at least 10 other times when we had three.
Then once we put him out of the committee, I had to bring him back in the committee so they could have another crack at him. They could not touch him. He was that good. So he had to go through an inordinate process to get there. But they knew they did not have anything on him. They know they didn't have anything on Miguel Estrada.
It was a double standard.
Absolutely right. Roberts was treated like all other nominees during the Reagan years, Bush 1 years, and the Clinton years. He was not asked to give his opinions on future issues that might come before the Circuit Court for the District of Columbia.
Because Miguel Estrada answered the same way basically as all the other people who had passed in prior years, they held that against him. The big phony issue was knowing that the Solicitor General's Office did not give the most privileged, private documents in that department without making that department unworkable.
That is right. They did treat Roberts differently, no question about it. They gave him a rough time, too. Miguel Estrada is in a league of his own in the way he was mistreated, but Roberts was mistreated, too. Roberts sits on the Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia after having been unanimously approved here.
Let's talk about how important that is. We have had 40 rollcall votes on the floor. You talk about delays. You talk about fouling up this body. We have had 40 rollcall votes on people who got unanimously confirmed. Can you imagine what it takes to go through 40 rollcall votes? It slows down the Senate like you can't believe, and muscles up the Senate like you can't believe. It is all a big game to try and make this President not successful. But Miguel Estrada had to go through that as well.
And, by the way, was never applied to any nominee, to my knowledge, in the past. Miguel Estrada was singled out with a double standard for the sole purpose of defeating his nomination and getting him to withdraw.
Their gold standard.
Very few people even argue one case.
It shows the lengths they would go to on that side--at least the leaders on that side--to screw up a nomination of a very good person.
Take Janice Rogers Brown. She is a terrific African-American justice on the California Supreme Court. She wrote the majority of the majority opinions on that court last year, and yet they come here and say she is outside the mainstream. They are outside the mainstream when they make arguments such as that.
There is only one reason they are against Janice Rogers Brown and filibuster her: because she is an African-American woman who is conservative and pro-life. For these inside-the-beltway groups, that is their single issue.
I had friends on the other side tell me, when I asked, ``Why are you doing this,'' say, ``Well, the groups will score this as a vote, and then they will come against whoever votes that way in the next election.'' These guys don't have the guts to take on the groups.
Better than that. She got 76 percent of the vote. She was the top vote-getter among four supreme court nominees.
I think the Senator makes a very good point.
It certainly is. I went to one of my friends on the other side--and I won't mention the name because I don't think that would be proper--and I said: What did you think of Janice Rogers Brown? His answer was: She's terrific--which she was in front of the committee. Yet every Democrat went against her in committee and I think cited horrendously bad arguments to do it.
They can point to 8 or 10 cases with which they didn't agree, but with which a lot of people do agree, and then they say she is outside the mainstream when she has tried hundreds of cases and decided, as a majority opinion writer, the most majority opinions in that court last year and I think in prior years as well.
It is really unseemly, and that is why we are so upset here. Let me tell you, if we continue down this course, we are going to severely harm the Federal judiciary and get only people who really are not only outside the mainstream, but are Milquetoast, who can't make a decision to save their lives. Once you get to the Federal bench, you have to be able to make tough decisions.
That is a frequent argument. I think the best illustration of that happens to be Bill Pryor.
They criticized him for cases he won before the Supreme Court, saying he is outside the mainstream because they disagreed with the cases. In fact, they think Rehnquist is out of the mainstream. They think Scalia is out of the mainstream. They certainly think Clarence Thomas is out of the mainstream because they want a single approach, a minority approach to everything that has to be liberal, and if you are not liberal, you are outside the mainstream, even though some of the greatest judges ever to sit on the Federal courts and Supreme Court were conservatives. Some of the great ones were liberals, too, but understood the role of judges.
Bill Pryor is getting savaged by the rightwing because he basically sued to have the chief justice removed for not following the rule of law.
That is absolutely correct. Just fast forward to this week. As the Atlanta Journal Constitution reported this week, Bill Pryor filed a pretrial brief asking the Alabama Court of the Judiciary to remove Judge Moore from the Alabama Supreme Court because of Moore's defiance of the Federal court order to remove the Ten Commandments display. Bill Pryor's brief stated, quoting from the Atlanta Journal Constitution article: Moore should be removed because ``he intentionally engaged in misconduct and because he remains unrepentant for his behavior.''
I could go on about Bill Pryor. During his hearing--a lengthy hearing--he was asked over and over by virtually every Democrat who showed up about his deeply held personal beliefs. He answered every question the way a judicial nominee should. Even though he had deeply held beliefs, he would obey the law.
I thank the Senator for his excellent questions.
Mr. President, I enjoyed the stirring remarks of my colleague. However, I think he completely ignores the fact that the filibuster rule did not even begin until 1917, and it did not come into fruition until the 1940s. Nevertheless, we have changed the rules in this body many times. But we are not asking for a change of the rules. We are asking for a recognition. There is a difference between the Executive Calendar, where the precise meaning of the Constitution is advise and consent under section 2, clause 2 of the Constitution, and the legislative calendar where we do have a right to filibuster. So that distinction needs to be made.
I yield 5 minutes to the distinguished Senator from Pennsylvania, and then I will be happy to take questions on this side.
I yield without losing my right to the floor a question of the Senator from----
I yield to the Senator from Colorado without losing my right to the floor.
I have laryngitis. What a time to have laryngitis. But that is the way it is. I apologize for my voice.
I sure do. The paper got it just right. I have seen three major editorials from the Chieftain and from the Rocky Mountain News calling the Democratic filibuster an irresponsible escalation of the judicial nominating war.
I agree with both. The Denver Post said ``a change in Senate procedure is long overdue.'' ``[T]here is no good reason to oppose a supermajority of the Senate that was not contemplated in the Constitution.''
They got it just right.
I yield to the distinguished Senator from Virginia without losing my right to the floor.
That is a good question because it seems as if our friends on the other side forget when they were in the majority and they had the Presidency and they all wanted votes up and down and all of a sudden they do not.
The Senator is right in pointing out these disparities. All of a sudden when the worm is turned, they do not want to live up to their own words. I am not sure that Senator Levin does not want to live up to his own words, but if he does want to live up to his own words, then he should not be voting with the Democrats. He should be voting for cloture.
Zero. Until this.
I will yield to the distinguished Senator from Virginia for a question and then I will yield to the distinguished Senator from Minnesota without losing my right to the floor.
The Senator will have his half hour in about 15 or 20 minutes.
That is the way I view it. I have to say this is a very dangerous thing the Democrats are doing for the first time in history. It has caused a tremendous amount of angst on everyone's part and awful partisanship because it has never been done before. It is time to move on.
I yield to the distinguished Senator from Minnesota.
I certainly do. That is what is behind this. I think the Senator points it out very well. So did George Will.
Not on my time.
About what? I did not hear the Senator.
I am not going to yield at this time to the distinguished Senator. I will yield to the distinguished Senator from Tennessee.
Yes.
That is right, in the history of the Senate. Absolutely, Will was right, because that same commentary was pointed out by Alexander Hamilton. He wrote in Federalist Paper 76 the Senate's role is to refuse nominations only for ``special and strong reasons'' having to do with ``unfit characters.'' That is not what our Democratic colleagues are doing. What they are doing here is denying up-and-down votes to very qualified people, who by their own gold standard, the American Bar Association, are proven to be qualified.
I believe it is abysmal that has happened. I think Senators have pointed out here this evening this is a very important debate that has to occur.
The American people need to know a militant minority, 45 Democrats, basically, is thwarting the will of the majority and taking away the dignity of an up-and-down vote to qualified judicial nominees by this President, which has never happened, once they hit the floor, which has never happened before.
In the Clinton years, all 377 judges were confirmed--only one was rejected, but he got an up-and-down vote, which is more than our people are getting.
I yield to the distinguished Senator from Tennessee, without losing my right to the floor.
Well, to be honest with you, it all comes down to abortion, according to some of my top Democrat friends. That has become a litmus test issue for Democrats because the inside-the-beltway groups the Democrats talk about do not want people on the courts who are pro- life, even though they are committed to upholding Roe v. Wade because that is the law of the land.
In the case of Judge Pickering, Judge Pickering was unanimously confirmed as a Federal district court judge in 1990. He has served well. He is one of the people who brought about racial conciliation in the State of Mississippi and was treated in a despicable fashion here.
In the case of Bill Pryor, I do not think anybody who looks at his record can say he will not uphold the law, no matter how much he disagrees with it, because that is what a judge will have to do.
That is right. If I recall it correctly, it had to do with partial-birth abortion, even though he hates partial-birth abortion, as anybody who looks at it carefully. It is a barbaric practice, at the very least. He upheld the law.
I do not know you can ask anything more of anybody than that. Plus, this is a fellow who graduated No. 1 in his class from Tulane University School of Law, who is very bright and was very candid and open with the committee, and yet being filibustered for no good reason. It really is unseemly.
The distinguished Senator raises some good points. There is no question the filibuster rule was despicably used during that time. But I still believe most of us would agree that rule XXII, the filibuster rule, can and should apply to the legislative calendar. We have a right to set our own rules through the legislative calendar. But the Executive Calendar is a calendar that is subject to our right to advise and consent, which under article II, section 2 is a majority vote, and it is being distorted by our friends on the other side.
I begin by commending my colleague from Indiana. That was an extraordinary speech. I hope that for a moment Senators on both sides of the aisle will stop and reflect on what he just said. I think it…
I begin by commending my colleague from Indiana. That was an extraordinary speech. I hope that for a moment Senators on both sides of the aisle will stop and reflect on what he just said. I think it was a challenge to everyone, as strongly as we feel about what we are debating tonight, the appointment of Federal judges; the Senator from Indiana is right. The people across America wonder why we are wasting the time of the Senate on issues that have no importance or relevance to their lives, and because they cannot understand us, they are estranged from us. They do not feel invested in this process, they do not feel a responsibility to vote; they, frankly, think we spend too much time in partisan posturing. The 30 hours of this debate are a classic example of that kind of partisan posture. That is unfortunate.
What the Senator hears in Indiana and I hear in Illinois and I daresay every Senator hears in their State--I have been going back to Illinois for 4 straight years in the month of August trying to tour the State, meeting with business and labor leaders and community leaders, to ask what is going on. For 4 straight years they told me the same thing: Senator, can you do anything about the cost of health insurance? It is killing us. It is killing my small business. It is killing my large business. My family is worried about coverage. What are you going to do in Washington about the cost of health insurance? I have to basically shrug my shoulder and say: I am sorry, that is not on our agenda. We have other things we debate in Washington, not the things you and your family worry about, that keep you up at night. This is a good example.
Would it not have been inspiring if we came together as Democrats and Republicans on the floor to talk for 30 hours about the future of health care in America, to speak to it in honest, nonpartisan fashion, to try to address some of the most controversial parts of it in a responsible, gentlemanly way?
That is what we are expected to do. That is not what this is about. This is about alerting FOX News to grind out their cameras at the entrance of the Senate to watch a parade of Senators come in--Senators who have now disappeared. This is about charts being made, night and day by Democrats and Republicans, to argue their case.
My people living back home in Springfield, IL, and Chicago, IL, I am sure, turned off C-SPAN a long, long time ago, if this is the best we can offer them. Sadly, that is all we are offering them.
We left the Veterans Administration appropriations bill--we could have finished it--for veterans hospitals and the millions of veterans across America because we did not have time; we had to start this never-ending 30-hour debate. We cannot entertain a motion made by the Senator from Indiana, a motion I made, as well, to try to do something about the 9 million unemployed Americans whose benefits are running out. We do not have time for that. We have time for this political debate.
That is unfortunate. It is distressing. I have given 21 years of my adult life to public service. I have never regretted a moment of it. I walked away from a law practice and never looked back. This is the most exciting and interesting thing I can think of to do with your life, to be involved in public service. I encourage everyone, regardless of your political stripe, to get involved. You will love the opportunity it gives you to help people. But, frankly, we are not seizing that opportunity or we would not be here tonight. We would not be here discussing a question about whether 168 or 172 judges is the right number.
Is this the best we can do? I think not. I think we can rise to a greater challenge but we have to put aside the partisanship.
I readily concede I have struck a few partisan blows and a few have been thrown my way. That is part of life in the Senate, I am sure, and life in the big leagues. But at the end of the day when it is all over, at the end of the year or end of the session, each of us would like to point back to something we did to improve the lives of the people we represent. What have we done to make the schools better? What have we done to deal with the economic uncertainty of middle-income families? What have we done to deal with the trade laws that are killing us in the Midwest and across the Nation?
I have been a proponent of free trade. It is almost impossible to defend at this moment in time. We are not enforcing our trade agreements. We have lost five or six manufacturers in Indiana and the same is true in Illinois. We
lost 3 million jobs across America. Frankly, many of those jobs will never come back. When we read headlines that say there are 120,000 new jobs in America, that is good news. But ask the hard question, are the jobs we created paying as much as the jobs we lost? If they were manufacturing jobs, the answer is pretty obvious. The answer is no, they are not. We are losing more and more good jobs. Instead of focusing on that as we should, on the things that people care about, we are spending our time in 30 hours of debate over four judges.
The senior Senator from Texas said earlier that the President has a constitutional right to appoint judges. I don't want to correct the Senator from Texas, but she is wrong. The President does not have a constitutional right to appoint judges. The President has a constitutional right to nominate judges. The judges are appointed through the advice and consent of the Senate. Therein lies the difference in our points of view. From the Republican side of the aisle, the President has a constitutional right to name the judges he wants. End of story. But the Constitution says otherwise. And it always has.
Even the most powerful and beloved President has to be held accountable to the people of America through the Senate, through the House, and that is why we are here tonight. At one moment in history when President Roosevelt had been reelected with the largest majority in the history of the United States, Franklin Roosevelt, he decided he had had his fill with the U.S. Supreme Court across the street and they were not treating him well and he came up with a scheme to pack the court, to add more Supreme Court Justices because they just were not ruling on his laws the way he wanted them to. He proposed that to an overwhelmingly Democratic Congress in the House and the Senate and ran into a firestorm of opposition from his own party.
President Franklin Roosevelt, as popular as he was, with the mandate he brought to office--and I will not reflect on this President's mandate in this discussion, but President FDR's mandate was substantial. He felt that he had a moment in history when he could change the Supreme Court. And this Senate, the Democrats in the Senate, said: No, we have to draw the line; this executive branch cannot control the judicial branch and we will stand in the path of a popular and beloved President. And they did. They stopped him.
That, to me, was an important moment in history--when Senators of the same political party said to a President, this Constitution created three branches of Government for good reason.
So tonight we are in a position where many are arguing that this Senate should step back and not assert its constitutional right to speak to the qualifications of judges. It will be a sad day if we allow that to occur.
Let me try to synthesize this into what it is about. It is not about the four judges or two more who might be added on Friday. It is about the next appointment to the Supreme Court across the street. That is the real story. There are a lot of good reasons we are here tonight but the real reason is the next Supreme Court vacancy and the belief on the Republican side of the aisle that if we can hold fast with our approach in stopping people unqualified, unfit, to serve on a Federal court, they will have a difficult time passing through a controversial nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court.
I think, in my heart of hearts, that is why we are here this evening. They are trying to smooth the road, prepare the way for that Supreme Court nominee from this President.
Now, let me give advice to my friends--and they are not likely to take it--on the Republican side. There is a way to avoid all that. Pick a man or a woman who is of such impeccable legal background, great credentials, the kind of person with the integrity that they will be above this kind of political debate. It can happen and it has happened.
In my State of Illinois, a State with two Senators from opposite political parties, we have not had one problem in filling the Federal judicial vacancies. We have done so, Democrat and Republican, with good men and women whom I am certain will serve this country well. I just gave the green light to a nominee who sits on our calendar, and I hope we will move quickly, Mark Philip, who was a clerk to Justice Antonin Scalia. I am a Democrat, approving a former clerk to Justice Scalia. I met him and trust him and I think he will be a great Federal district court judge.
That can happen again. But we have to move away from those who are ideological extremes. We have to move away from those who are lightning rods. We have to move to a center path, which most Americans expect of us.
Sadly, tonight, we are being told this Senate should not even ask questions of these nominees. That is wrong. We have a constitutional responsibility, a responsibility that must be met.
Some have said, incidentally, that ours are the first to ever filibuster nominees. In fact, the Senator from Pennsylvania said it is the first time in the history of the United States anyone has ever filibustered a judicial nominee. Well, this chart shows that is not correct. Abe Fortas of the Supreme Court, subject to cloture motion, filibuster; Stephen Breyer, First Circuit--I am going through the list--Rosemary Barkett, Eleventh Circuit; Lee Sarokin, Third Circuit; Marsha Berzon, Ninth Circuit; and Richard Paez, Ninth Circuit.
The fact is, there have been judges brought to the Senate floor who have been filibustered in the past. The fact is, most of those filibusters failed. The motion for cloture prevailed but the filibuster was on. On the four who are under contention this evening, the filibuster has succeeded. The motion for cloture has not been filed successfully. That is the difference. To say it has never happened before in our history is to defy the obvious. It certainly has happened before.
The point we are trying to make is it is not unreasonable to have 4 nominees out of 172 questioned, to be found lacking.
Let me close by saying, again I commend my colleague from Indiana because I think he put it in perspective. We all know it is true. We could be spending our time doing a lot more important things for America and a lot more important things for the people we represent than squabbling over four judges.
I am happy to yield.
It is false. It is clearly false. Justice Abe Fortas, 1968; Judge Stephen Breyer, 1990; Judge Rosemary Barkett, 1994; Judge Marsha Berzon, 2000; Judge Paez, 2000. And many others.
The fact is, for those who say there have never been filibusters by nominees, that is clearly not right.
That is accurate. As noted here, for Judge Breyer, twice. That is a clear example. On some of the others, there could have been more than one time, as well.
The point I would like to make to my friend from Nevada, we also know that under President Clinton, 63 of his nominees never got a hearing. They were never given a chance to come to the floor for this vote because the Republican-controlled Senate Judiciary Committee would not even give them a hearing.
It is customary for a Senator of a State, depending on the President's party, to be able to suggest to the White House a nominee to fill a vacancy on the Federal district judge and the Federal circuit court. That nominee is then given to the White House for approval and investigation, FBI background checks, the normal things. If the White House then clears that nominee, the name is sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee. A hearing is scheduled in the normal course where the person is brought before the committee. After the committee has done its investigation, questions are asked and then the person is brought for a vote and eventually finds their way to the floor.
Under the Clinton administration, after the nominee came out of the White House, 63 times, 20 percent of the President's nominees were stopped at that point and never brought to a hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee. So the argument that we have stopped four belies the reality that when we looked at the numbers from the Clinton administration, 20 percent, not 2 percent but 20 percent, of the judges never got their chance before the Judiciary Committee to even present their credentials and argue for their nomination.
I say to the Senator from Nevada, that is a sad reality. Frankly, this President is being treated far better than President Clinton. This Senate Judiciary Committee, under the leadership of Senator Patrick Leahy, a Democrat, approved 100 of President Bush's nominees, gave them hearings and moved them forward.
We tried in a bipartisan fashion to meet our constitutional responsibility. Only 4 times out of 172 have we said no. Only four. It is reasonable for us to stop and ask hard questions of nominees who are asking for lifetime appointments to some of the highest courts of the land.
That is correct. I say to the Senator from Nevada that there are some among those 168 about whom I have had misgivings. Many of them I voted for anyway, understanding this is the President's prerogative to nominate people for the Federal courts.
Going back to the point I made earlier, the President does not have a constitutional right to appoint Federal judges. He has the right to nominate them. Only with the advice and consent can they be appointed to the Federal judicial vacancies. Therein lies the real difference in the argument we brought forward this evening.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, it is my understanding that there is a rough sense between the Democratic and Republican sides that the next hour, at least on our schedule, had been designated, that the Republican…
Mr. President, it is my understanding that there is a rough sense between the Democratic and Republican sides that the next hour, at least on our schedule, had been designated, that the Republican time would take half an hour and the Democratic side half an hour. If there is a different point of view on that side, perhaps that could be expressed. Otherwise, we would go forward. If there is not, then what I would like to do at this time is yield 5 minutes to the Senator from Idaho.
Mr. President, I yield 5 minutes to the Senator from Virginia.
Mr. President, I thank the gentleman for his comments, both on the status of our economy and the great economic growth that we are now enjoying, but also the last point about the importance of confirming judges.
I hope people around America are watching tonight so they will understand why we are talking about the importance of confirming judges nominated by the President to the Federal bench.
We have all heard the phrase, ``justice delayed is justice denied.'' The
reason that is a common phrase is because there is a lot of truth to it. What we are seeing around the country today is delay in justice because the Senate is denying the President a mere up-or-down vote on some of his nominees to the bench.
While it is possible for minority members, along with some in the majority, to defeat a judge on an up-or-down vote, that has only happened one time, a few years ago, since I have been in the Senate.
The judges who are being denied confirmation would all pass with a majority vote, but the minority is holding them up through the mechanism of the filibuster. I will have more to say about that mechanism in a moment.
The key point the Senator from Virginia made was that it is important we confirm these judges, as important as many of our other functions.
Let us reflect for a moment. The Senate was given some very unique responsibilities by the Framers of our Constitution. Among those unique responsibilities is the sole ability to ratify treaties and confirm nominations of the President. Advice and consent of the Senate is the way the Constitution refers to it.
The House of Representatives, with all of the great responsibilities of that body, does not have this authority. This is alone the job of the Senate, and it is a job that the Senate, throughout its entire history, has taken very seriously. Never, in the history of the Senate, has there been a successful filibuster of a nominee to the bench by the President. That is what is so striking, what is so important, what is so significant, about the activity of the minority party during the course of the last couple of years, and it is why we are here tonight talking about this and trying to move America to move our Democratic colleagues to recognize that it is only fair to provide an up-or-down vote for these candidates. That is all we are asking.
We have talked about the fairness to the nominees themselves. Miguel Estrada, one of the most competent attorneys in the country, after more than 2 years, finally withdrew his name from consideration because he had to move on with his career. We could talk about the fairness to these nominees of having to languish for months, for years, without even the courtesy of an up-or-down vote. We could talk to the fairness of the President. We could talk to the fairness of the majority in the Senate.
What I want to address briefly is the fairness to the American people in denying justice by the delay in filling vacancies, vacancies which are emergency vacancies.
What is an emergency vacancy? An emergency vacancy is one which has been determined by the Judicial Conference, which is a nonpartisan entity that acts as the principal policymaking body for the administration of the U.S. courts, that there are so many cases per judge in a particular circuit or district that an emergency exists; there are not enough judges to take care of the cases in any reasonable timeframe, as a result of which litigants suffer.
Perhaps the clearest way to make this point is, every schoolchild knows that the Constitution of the United States guarantees a criminal defendant a speedy trial, but they cannot get a speedy trial if there is no judge. So what happens is that all of the other litigants in the courts have to go to the back of the line and stay there until all of the criminal defendants have had their speedy trial.
In some cases, that means the civil cases languish for 3, 4, 5, 6 years. That is justice denied in the case of those litigants whose justice has been delayed.
What are these judicial emergencies? There are 12 judicial emergencies on the circuit court of appeals including the Ninth Circuit, the Fifth Circuit, the Sixth Circuit, and the Fourth Circuit. Democrats are obstructing nominees for every one of those circuits. For all three of the nominations who have already been filibustered-- Priscilla Owen, nominated to fill one of the two Fifth Circuit judicial emergencies; Charles Pickering to fill one of the Fifth Circuit judicial emergencies; and Bill Pryor, nominated to fill an Eleventh Circuit judicial emergency--in each case, the filibuster is preventing us from filling a seat which has been declared a judicial emergency.
This is not some theoretical exercise. This is a problem that has to be dealt with, and the Senate is falling down in its responsibility to fill these emergencies.
Democrats have also threatened to filibuster other nominees who have been named to fill judicial emergencies in other circuits, by name, Carolyn Kuhl, who I would like to speak about a little later, nominated to fill a Ninth Circuit judicial emergency, Henry Saad for the Sixth Circuit, Susan Neilson for the Sixth Circuit, Richard Griffin for the Sixth Circuit, David McKeague for the Sixth Circuit, and Claude Allen to fill a judicial emergency in the Fourth Circuit.
The cost of judicial vacancies to litigants in civil rights cases not being able to vindicate their civil rights in commercial disputes, in contract disputes, in regulatory cases involving Federal regulations, in every kind of case one can mention, there are cases languishing and litigants who are not being given their rights because there are not sufficient judges to hear their cases.
I mentioned the Ninth Circuit. That is the circuit in which my home State of Arizona is located. I am very familiar with the delays in that circuit. It is hurting the economies of our States. It is hurting the rights of litigants in our States. I will mention a couple of details to make the point.
The Ninth Circuit is the largest circuit in the country. It hears appeals from California, Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Washington, Oregon, Alaska, and Hawaii. There are over 5,200 cases pending in the Ninth Circuit. It has the largest civil docket in the Nation, more than 1,500 cases. Since early 2001, cases filed in the district court of the Ninth Circuit and that make their way through the court of appeals take longer to resolve than they did 2 years ago. In 2001, it took 30 months for a case to go from original filing to a final decision on appeal. By June 2003, it took 31 months. This 1-month increase in delay may seem small but the delay adds up across the circuit. There are more than 4,100 cases in the Ninth Circuit affected by this delay.
That means there are more than 123,000 extra days that have been spent by both parties waiting for a decision. It takes 5 months longer to resolve a case in the Ninth Circuit than the national average of courts of appeal, 31 months versus 36 months. That is what has affected my State and other States in the United States Court of Appeals. The filibuster that has been conducted by the Democrats is responsible for the inability to fill these vacancies. Not just vacancies, but judicial emergencies.
The last point I make before yielding time, if the Senator from Alabama is still here and would like to speak briefly, to answer a question that has been asked of me by constituents in Arizona. They remember the movie ``Mr. Smith Goes to Washington'' with Jimmy Stewart. A couple of them have read in the history books about the great filibuster Strom Thurmond conducted over 24 hours. They asked me, if the Democrats are filibustering these judges, why can't you make them talk all night? The answer to that question is, that is not the nature of a modern filibuster. When Jimmy Stewart and Strom Thurmond were speaking that long, they were trying to hold the floor, as our colleague from Nevada did a couple of nights ago when I think he spoke over 8\1/2\ hours. He did not want to give up the floor because he did not want business to be conducted.
In the case of Strom Thurmond and Jimmy Stewart, in the movie, they did not dare give up the floor because they were a one-man band for their cause. They may have had one or two colleagues with them, but basically they were it. They knew as soon as they gave up the floor, the leader would say: I ask unanimous consent we now vote on the matter they were arguing about. They would object and say, I object, and under Senate rules that is enough. It only takes one person to object to go to the next stage. The next stage is filing a cloture motion and then a vote occurs. If 60 Senators say, ``We are ready to vote,'' you take the vote on whatever matter it is. In this case, it would be the nomination of these judicial nominees. They might pass by 51 votes, but you cannot take the vote until 60 Senators agree.
That is the rule that applies on the legislative calendar. Up until now no one thought it would be a rule that would be abused with respect to the Executive Calendar, the calendar on which the judicial nominees are considered.
The Democrats have decided to seek to apply that 60-vote rule so if more than 40 of them vote no to take a vote, we would not have the 60 votes necessary to take that vote and the majority rule would never be permitted to prevail. That is the way it has been for the last several months. We have taken a cloture vote several times and each time there are 44, 45 Democrats who vote against cloture. They vote against taking the final vote. That means there may be 55 or 56 on the other side with some Democrat support, obviously, willing to take the vote. But we cannot get that number up to 60.
Up until now, in the interpretation that has prevailed, we cannot take the final vote which would pass for all of these nominees; 51 votes would be secured for every one of the nominees that have been filibustered. That is why we cannot make someone talk all night. If our colleagues on the Democrat side wished, they could have one person on the floor all night tonight and simply object to our request to go to these votes. But they would not have to talk if they did not want to.
I am pleased they are joining in this debate so we can actually have a discussion about these candidates. In that sense, I guess we have forced an all-night discussion. It is a discussion that should have occurred a long time ago. It is a useful discussion, but it is not a discussion at the end of the day that I suspect will change any of their minds, as a result of which, as long as we adhere to the 60-vote rule that has always been the rule in the past, we cannot get to a vote where the majority would be able to prevail. That is what the Senate rules are.
On Friday, we will have a vote to change the rules. That vote requires a two-thirds majority to pass. It is unlikely that will occur, either.
That is the state of play right now. That is why, to answer the question, ``Can you make somebody talk all night,'' the answer is no, not if they have 40 friends, because if they have 40 friends, all they have to do is vote ``no'' when you have a cloture vote and you cannot go on to your final vote. That rule may sound arcane, but I also say on legislative matters, it has been used by both parties to defeat legislation that did not have a 60-vote majority. It is a right Senators have always felt important, for important matters to require 60 votes. To pass a treaty, it takes two-thirds. The Constitution explicitly spells that out. But to confirm a judge, the Constitution has no supermajority requirement.
There are a lot of people who believe the real intent of the Framers was that a simple majority should apply. Perhaps one day that issue will be tested. Until then, we are with the proposition that as long as any Senator objects, it takes 60 votes to get to a final vote in which a simple majority would prevail. As of right now, that is what is being applied in the case of these judicial nominees.
The important point for Americans to understand is the minority has thwarted the will of the majority; that the consequences are significant for the country; that emergency judicial vacancies are not being filled; and while this is unfair to nominees themselves, it is even more unfair to the American people because the judicial vacancies remain vacant.
It is a solemn responsibility of the Senate to act on the President's nominees. We are not fulfilling that responsibility. It is for that reason the Republican majority decided to take this time tonight and tomorrow to try to bring this matter to the attention of the American people to urge our colleagues to reconsider their position in opposition to even taking a vote on these nominees so eventually we can get to the point where we can simply have an up-or-down vote on the nominees President Bush has made for these important positions.
I reserve the balance of the time allotted to the Republican side during this hour. If there is another Republican wishing to speak, I am happy to recognize that person. If not, I am happy to yield the floor to colleagues on the Democrat side for whatever time is remaining and pick that up a little bit later.
I yield the floor.
Will the Senator yield? Would my colleague from Utah yield for a question? We have had some misstatements on the floor about how many filibusters we have had. I said, we have had some misstatements…
Will the Senator yield?
Would my colleague from Utah yield for a question?
We have had some misstatements on the floor about how many filibusters we have had.
I said, we have had some misstatements repeatedly by the Senator from Virginia and the Senator from Minnesota about how many have been filibustered. There have been a bunch who have been filibustered, it is just that we happened to succeed. Isn't that correct?
I thank the Chair.
Mr. President, I listened to the debate, and I would say basically, kindly, it is just a repetition of arguments we have heard over and over again. A little less kindly, sound and fury signifying nothing.
I tried to ask some questions of the other side a few minutes ago and was rebuffed. It is no wonder because we are not having a coming together here. We are not having an elucidation. What we are having is a rehash of arguments we have heard over and over again.
It is not going to change anything, I say to my colleagues. It is not going to change a thing. There is only one way to change things, and that is for the President and the other side to follow the Constitution and take the words ``advise and consent'' seriously. If they think we can be bludgeoned, if they think more talk radio makes a difference, it is not going to make a difference. In fact, I would argue to my colleagues, this debate is helping us because the hard-right media, the talk radio, and the others don't mention this fact.
This chart is worth 30 hours of palaver, of gibberish. The Wall Street
Journal today has an editorial with the pictures of the six. Do they mention how many have been approved? They don't dare. They have had editorial after editorial and some of them criticize me. I write letters, and they don't publish them. You would think if they are going to do a whole editorial being critical of someone, they would give them the courtesy of publishing a letter. They are not interested in the debate of facts. No.
At least we are getting a chance to show this. One picture is worth a thousand words; one chart is equal to all the talk we have heard. Nothing will change that.
This is actually going to help our side. It is backfiring. I know many of you on the other side didn't really want to do this, but I guess I have to say to those of you who argued for it, thanks.
I heard from a constituent earlier tonight. They were watching the debate. I said: Did you know about 168 to 4? No. Most people don't because the big storm on this has come from a small narrow band on the hard right. We know the other side has to pay attention to them. They accuse us of being subject to beltway liberal groups. There are groups on both sides. They both feel as passionately.
I don't know why one group is any better than the other, but the group on that side has made this an issue. They just can't stand the fact that four have been rejected--four.
I begin by saying, better be careful about what you wish for because this at least is an even airing of the facts. What I would like this to be is a real debate. I would like us to ask each other questions. I would like us to challenge each other's assumptions and misstatements. But it is obviously not happening. Obviously not at all.
I will be happy to yield for a question. I give the Senator from Texas the courtesy I was not given.
Yes, reclaiming my time, that is exactly the point. I haven't gotten up to this chart, but I will go to it now.
Let me please answer my colleague's question. The bottom line is the other side has said--and in the chart of the Senator from Pennsylvania, he was careful. He said ``successfully filibustered, none.'' Then when it was repeated by many of the other colleagues, they said there has never been a filibuster.
As my good colleague from Nevada pointed out, there have been filibusters. Here are some of the judges who have been filibustered.
Don't claim there has never been a filibuster. In fact, I would ask anyone on the other side, when you filibustered just 3 years ago, did anybody object and say the Constitution is being defiled? Judge Berzon was filibustered in 2000. Judge Paez was filibustered in 2000. Judge Sarokin was filibustered in 1994.
I didn't hear the outcries from the Senator from Pennsylvania or others that filibuster is constitutionally wrong. Oh, no. Oh, no. So the one difference----
Let me finish--the one difference--and then I will be happy to yield for a question--is this. We succeeded. Do you know why we succeeded? I will tell you why. Because President Clinton made an effort to nominate moderate judges, by and large; because President Clinton did far more of the advise-and-consent process than President Bush, and President Clinton was able to persuade 15 or 20 Members from the other side to finally vote for these judges.
We have had no advice, meaning consultation. I am consulted in New York, and we have filled every vacancy. On the main court of appeals nominees, there is no advise, and that means there isn't consent.
I would argue this to my good friend from Texas: No President has chosen judges through an ideological prism more than President Bush. He said it when he ran, to his credit. He was going to appoint judges in the mold of Scalia and Thomas, two of the most conservative judges we have. Some of them are to the right of Scalia and Thomas. Clearly, Justice Brown is. I believe Miguel Estrada was. He has appointed judges ideologically. Then we are supposed to not challenge that ideology? It is two-faced. It is hypocritical.
Most of President Clinton's nominees--not all, but most--were not legal aid lawyers or ACLU attorneys. They were partners in law firms; they were prosecutors. Anyone who has followed this knows President Clinton decided to nominate, by and large, decidedly moderate judges. That is why the filibusters were not successful.
Our filibusters are successful, frankly, not because of any of us. It is because President Bush has decided to nominate people from the hard right so that he gives us no choice. Nothing would please me more--and I am one of the leaders in this--nothing would please me more than for Counsel Gonzales to call some of us in and say: How do we come to some kind of comity? Guess what, the same thing that happened in New York and a few other States will happen nationally.
Will most of the judges be far more conservative than me? Yes. Will many of the judges disagree with my view on choice or affirmative action or anything else? Yes. But at least we will feel they will interpret the law, not make law.
As my good friends know on the other side, the Constitution requires interpretation of the law, and ideologues, far left or far right--I don't like far-left judges, either--want to make law because they feel they are so right and the country is so wrong, and so they try to make law.
The Founding Fathers in their wisdom--I will yield in a minute, and maybe the Senator would ask the others on their time to yield to us as well. Then we can get some debate here and maybe make a little progress instead of just talking past one another.
The bottom line is this: We are defending the Constitution. We are saying there should be some balance. President Bush didn't win by a landslide. This Senate is not 62 to 38 or 70 to 30. This country is narrowly divided, and that means when laws are made, they tend to move to the middle. The prescription drug law is an example right now. But judges don't have to move to the middle. Once they are appointed, they are there for life, and they have virtually absolute power over cases. All we have is the constraints within their own heads.
My good, learned friend from Texas knows that in the ``Federalist Papers,'' Alexander Hamilton said ideology should play a role. My good friend from Texas--he is a student of history--knows one of the first nominees of George Washington, John Rutledge, was rejected because of his views on the Jay Treaty. My good friend knows in that Senate that rejected John Rutledge were a good number of the Founding Fathers. So this is not new. This is not made up. In fact, what is new is the view on the other side that if they don't get their whole way, they want to change the rules. If there had been for 20 years protests from many of my colleagues who sat in those seats in 2000 and 2000 and 1994 and 1994 when there were filibusters, maybe we could feel there was some genuine feeling here, some genuine fidelity. Instead, I would argue most of those who study logic know that things can be made; that the weakest arguments are outcome determinant. In other words, you look for the outcome you want and then you make the argument. That, I would argue, with all due respect, is what my colleagues are doing.
The bottom line is filibusters were not an abomination to the Constitution when President Clinton nominated. And, by the way, in the inverse case, holding back judges from even getting a vote in the Judiciary Committee was perfectly OK. That didn't unbalance the Constitution.
What my colleagues have done is taken the result they want, which is 172 to 0, and then come up with an argument that all of a sudden filibusters are bad. Blocking judges can't be bad because look at all these judges the other side blocked and didn't even
allow to come up for a vote. So it can't be that blocking judges is wrong. But it also can't be that filibusters are wrong because they did them in recent history. They just didn't succeed.
Now they have this twisted logic that only a successful filibuster is bad. That doesn't make much sense. I am sure my good colleague from Alabama wishes his filibuster had succeeded. He felt it passionately. He felt Judge Berzon and Judge Paez were too far over, maybe.
I will be happy to yield since I mentioned the Senator's name.
Let me reclaim my time.
I simply say to my colleague----
Thank you, Mr. President.
What I said before was, and I say it again, I did not hear an outcry about filibustering being wrong or being unconstitutional or being evil when these judges came up. I didn't see people get on the floor for 30 hours. There were four of them in the last 6 years. I didn't even hear people get on the floor for 3 hours and take up time to say why filibustering is bad.
Do you know why they say it is bad now? Because we have succeeded. Again, why have we succeeded? Because President Bush has changed the way people are appointed to the judiciary. He has nominated judges through an ideological prism to a far greater extent than any President in history.
I say to my colleagues, do you want to get it to be 172 to 0? Tell the President to sit down with us, to advise, to come to some compromise, and then you will probably get 172 to 0. But as long as this process continues where there is no advise and consent, as long as this process continues where certain judges who believe decisions that have been discredited 50 and 100 years ago should be law, we have no alternative but to do what we are doing.
I will be happy to yield to my colleague for a question.
I say to my colleague, most definitely, because, first, not only do these people have a job, but they shouldn't be on the bench.
More than once.
I say to my colleague, it would be an excellent idea. This debate, as I mentioned earlier, is not going to accomplish a thing. In fact, if it accomplishes anything, since we haven't had the media drumbeat on our side the way the others have, it is going to help us; it is going to get this very fact out. Why not have a debate on something we haven't debated, such as minimum wage, such as health care, such as energy policy, instead of having two people decide energy policy. Nobody knows what the conference report will be. Let's have a debate about that.
Here we are repeating over and over and over and over again the arguments that have been made and made and made.
The bottom line, I say to my good colleague from Nevada, is there are 100, 200, 300 better ways to spend 30 hours in the Senate than redebate these issues. If this is frustration on the other side because 4 of the 172 have been blocked, the solution is not to repeat the same arguments which we regard as specious. The solution is to come to the middle and compromise and talk to us, as we have done in certain States.
I say this to my colleagues: Stop using outcome-determinative arguments. Filibusters are fine when you do them. Only when we do them successfully are they no good. And blocking judges? That is just fine. You blocked so many more than we have. This argument is like trying to thread a needle: Blocking judges is OK; filibustering is OK; only successful filibustering is unconstitutional.
I doubt many legal scholars of any political persuasion would be able to sustain the contradictions in my friends' arguments from across the aisle.
The bottom line is simple: We believe advise and consent really means what it says.
We believe keeping judges in the mainstream is within what the Founding Fathers wished us to do. I will have more to say in the next hour.
Will my colleague yield for a question?
Mr. President, I ask the time of the half hour allotted to this side be divided between myself and Senator Dodd and that I may proceed for 15 minutes. Mr. President, what I wish the majority would be…
Mr. President, I ask the time of the half hour allotted to this side be divided between myself and Senator Dodd and that I may proceed for 15 minutes.
Mr. President, what I wish the majority would be allowing tonight is consideration of legislation that addresses the loss of over 3 million jobs in this country during the last few
years, most of them manufacturing jobs.
What I wish the majority would be allowing us to do tonight is to consider legislation to extend the unemployment benefits to those Americans who have lost their jobs in this recession, the way we have extended unemployment benefits in previous downturns.
Those needs of the American people and a dozen other needs are what we ought to be spending our time on tonight and every day until those issues, and many other critical issues, are addressed.
Instead, those on the other side of the aisle decided to spend 30 hours rehashing the reasons that 4 out of the 172 of President Bush's judicial nominees have not been confirmed by the Senate. That is their right, but it is wrong.
In my home State of Michigan, the unemployment rate is 7.4 percent. In fact, Michigan has lost and continues to lose more manufacturing jobs than almost any other State in the Nation. Mr. President, 2.5 million of the 3.3 million jobs which the U.S. economy has lost since January 1, 2001, were in manufacturing. We lost over 160,000 of those jobs in Michigan alone. Other States face large job losses, but what we should be doing is helping people who lost jobs, acting to stop the currency manipulation by China, Japan, and other countries, and the one-way street in trade which has been such a large part of the loss of jobs in this country.
The first act of this Congress last January was to extend unemployment benefits through the end of this year because Congress did not act last year. That made the 2002 holiday season mighty grim for those workers whose benefits had expired. Current law provides 13 weeks of additional Federal aid to laid-off workers who have exhausted their 26 weeks of regular State benefits. However, this administration has shown no interest in either extending the deadline for the program or authorizing new benefits. The trust fund that is to be used for unemployment benefits currently has over $20 billion in it. Why this administration balks at extending unemployment benefits is beyond me since that is what the money in that fund is for.
I, along with a number of our colleagues, propose we extend the December 31 deadline for another 6 months so newly unemployed workers can receive Federal assistance, but also making available an additional 13 weeks of Federal unemployment benefits for a total of 26 weeks. That is what we have done in prior recessions. We responded during the 1974 recession. Federal benefits were extended to 29 weeks.
In the 1981 recession, Congress extended benefits to 26 weeks. In the 1990 recession, 26 weeks were provided, 33 weeks to States with high unemployment.
While the unemployment numbers released last week were somewhat of an improvement, in terms of manufacturing jobs, that loss continues, and the long-term economic forecast continues to be pessimistic.
On this track, this administration will be the first administration to lose private sector jobs since Herbert Hoover.
In one moment I am going to propound a unanimous consent request that I know my Republican colleagues will want to hear, and I want to alert them of the fact I will be propounding that request in a moment. I hope our Republican colleagues will give us consent to take up unemployment insurance extension legislation this evening. Perhaps then this 30-hour exercise will be fruitful.
I think I have alerted the Republicans that we would be making this unanimous consent request.
Unanimous Consent Request--S. 1853
I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to legislative session; that the Finance Committee be discharged from further consideration of S. 1853, which is a bill to extend unemployment insurance benefits for displaced workers; that the Senate proceed to its immediate consideration; that the bill be read a third time and passed; and that the motion to reconsider be laid on the table.
Mr. President, since the majority has now determined we will spend 30 hours of the time of the Senate rehashing 4 of the 172 judicial nominations that haven't been confirmed, I want to address what is an even deeper issue than the majority's effort to weaken and water down the role of the Senate in exercising its advice-and-consent responsibility.
That even more fundamental issue is our Nation's historic and constitutional system of checks and balances. Those checks and balances are an integral part of the unique design of our founding document in restraining the potential excesses and extremes of the executive branch. We share the obligation and responsibility with the judicial branch.
Our rules in the Senate are aimed at restraining the potential abuse of the rights of the minority by the majority within the legislative branch itself.
In June of this year, Robert Caro, the eminent Pulitzer Prize winning historian and author of ``Master of the Senate,'' his great biography of former President and Senate majority leader Lyndon Johnson, wrote to our Senate Rules Committee addressing this subject and quoting from his book. Here is what he said:
. . . in creating this new nation, its Founding Fathers,
the Framers of its Constitution, gave its legislature . . .
not only its own powers, specified and sweeping . . . but
also the powers designed to make the Congress independent of
the President and to restrain and act as a check on his
authority, [including the] power to approve his appointments,
even the appointments he made within his own Administration .
. . and . . . the power to approve Presidential appointments
was given to the Senate alone; a President could nominate and
appoint ambassadors, Supreme Court Justices, and other
officers of the United States, but only ``with the advice and
consent of the Senate.''
Robert Caro goes on to say:
The Framers wanted to check and restrain not only the
people's rulers, but also the possibility that the majority
will be used in Madison's words ``to oppress the minority.''
The Framers, he [Madison] said, established the Senate as the
body ``first to protect the people against their
rulers; secondly to protect the people against the
transient impressions into which they themselves might be
led . . . The use of the Senate is to consist in its
proceeding with more coolness, with more system. . . .
One of the historical tools for the protection of the minority which is developed in the Senate from its earliest days is the principle of extended debate. The exercise of this right of Senators, particularly when it is used to block actions which the majority fervently wishes to take, is embodied in our Senate rule that you must have a supermajority of 60 percent of the Senate on matters where there is strong opposition.
Filibusters have played an important role in moderating action in the Senate. It is widely recognized the Senate is a less partisan place-- you may not be able to discern that tonight, but generally this is a less partisan place than the other body in our Congress or virtually any other democratically elected legislative body anywhere in the world.
As Senator Byrd said in his series of scholarly addresses on the floor of the Senate about Senate history:
Arguments against filibusters have largely centered around
the principle that the majority should rule in a democratic
society. The very existence of the Senate, however, embodies
an equally valid tenet in American democracy: the principle
that minorities have rights.
Senator Byrd goes on to say in his study:
The most important argument supporting extended debate in
the Senate, and even the right to filibuster, is the system
of checks and balances. The Senate operates as the balance
wheel in that system, because it provides the greatest check
against an all powerful executive through the privilege that
Senators have to discuss without hindrance what they please
for as long as they please . . . Without the potential for
filibusters, that power to check a Senate majority or an
imperial presidency would be destroyed. It is a power too
sacred to be trifled with.
Lyndon Baines Johnson said in 1949:
. . . If I should have the opportunity to send into the
countries behind the iron curtain one freedom and only one, I
know what my choice would be . . . I would send those nations
the right of unlimited debate in their legislative chambers.
If we now, in haste and irritation, shut off this freedom,
we shall be cutting off the most vital safeguard which
minorities possess against the tyranny of momentary
majorities.
In May of 1994, when the Republican minority blocked Senator Clinton's nomination of Sam Brown to be ambassador, one of our Republican colleagues said the following:
In considering the nomination of Mr. Samuel W. Brown to be
the Ambassador to CSCE, I have reflected on the latitude
which ought to be accorded the President in making this
decision for the ambassadorship, reflecting as well on the
constitutional responsibility of the Senate for advice and
consent as a check. . . . . I am troubled by a situation
where the only pressure point Republicans have in the U.S.
Government is on cloture. Once cloture is obtained, there are
more than enough votes on the other side of the aisle to
cover the day. While the House is not involved in this
matter, the House is overwhelmingly Democratic; there is a
Democrat in the White House. The only place Republicans can
assert any effective, decisive action is by stopping somebody
from coming up. We have 44 votes, and we have more than
enough, if there is unity among the Republicans, to do that.
I think Mr. Brown's nomination and the responsibilities at
the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe are
sufficiently important to preclude his nomination.
The filibuster succeeded in blocking this nomination.
There are many reasons to at least consider modification to the Senate rules regarding the procedures for ending debate, the process we call cloture. Those rules have been modified a number of times before, but one of the reasons to consider modifying our rules is not the reason which is motivating our current majority in the Senate: irritation with the fact that only 98 percent of President Bush's judicial nominees have been confirmed by the Senate. That irritation that a substantial minority of Senators would stand in the way of getting their way 100 percent of the time has led to this 30-hour talkathon and their apparent desire to amend the Senate rules to let them get their way 100 percent of the time.
We find ourselves tonight debating not whether unemployment insurance should be extended for Americans who have lost their jobs, not how to create more jobs in our economy, not how to better provide for the education of our children, or to strengthen our homeland security, or reduce the cost and increase the availability of prescription drugs, but, rather, listening to the re-argument of the case for the 4 nominees out of 172 nominees the Senate has not confirmed.
They want a 100 percent confirmation success record, and they appear to be willing to throw over the very essence of the Senate and its check-and-balance role to accomplish it. The Constitution says the President shall nominate, and, by and with the consent of the Senate, shall appoint ambassadors and judges.
William Maclay, one of the first two Senators from Pennsylvania, wrote the following:
Whoever attends strictly to the Constitution of the United
States will readily observe that the part assigned to the
Senate was an important one, no less than that of being the
great check, the regulator and corrector, or, if I may so
speak, the balance of this Government. . . . . The
approbation of the Senate was certainly meant to guard
against the mistakes of the President in his appointments to
office [and] the depriving power should be the same as the
appointing power.
I thank the Chair, and I yield the floor to my friend from Connecticut.
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Mr. President, I begin by thanking my colleague from Michigan for his comments. I intend to share some similar thoughts this evening. First of all, let me begin by stating my own views about this…
Mr. President, I begin by thanking my colleague from Michigan for his comments. I intend to share some similar thoughts this evening.
First of all, let me begin by stating my own views about this process this evening and note--some have chosen to use the word anger--but I rise more in sadness.
We are gathered to engage in this--I do not know what it is properly called--I guess a filibuster. It is unique in that the majority is conducting a filibuster. Normally, a filibuster, for those who are interested in how this works, is conducted by a minority within a minority, but we find ourselves this evening a few short days away from the end of this particular session with a tremendous amount of unfinished business, and we are spending the next 30 hours--or 26 hours, whatever is left--on this particular debate and discussion, which I suppose has some value in the mind of some. As far as this Member is concerned, I regret in some ways even addressing the matters before us this evening. The better approach might have been to protect the rights of the minority but not to engage in this debate.
There may be four votes that will occur on Friday. Three of them involve individuals who are seeking appointment to the Federal judiciary. With all due respect to these particular nominees, putting aside one's views or whether they are for or against them, history will probably little note nor record for any great length of time who they were. That is not in any way to suggest they are not worthy individuals, but in the passage of time, these nominations will not register terribly significantly in the history of the debates of this great Chamber.
I arrived as an employee of the Senate about the age of 17 when I sat on these steps. Lyndon Johnson was the majority leader of the Senate. There was Everett Dirksen and Senator McClellan. It was a sea of giants who served in this body. I tried to imagine this evening whether or not they might proceed in a debate like we are having, but I cannot imagine them doing so, quite candidly.
I am afraid we are diminishing dramatically the incredible historic role of this institution by this process. When I think of all the matters that deserve our attention, when I think of all of the Herculean debates that have occurred in this Chamber throughout the 217-year history of our country, some of the great debates deciding who we were as a society--I sat on that step over there and listened to the all-night debates on civil rights in the early 1960s. I listened to southerners argue vehemently on behalf of their position regarding States rights. They were incredible debates. Never once in all of that process that I watched as a child sitting out there did I ever hear anyone suggest we ought to change the rules of the Senate.
Even among those who were outraged that there were those who were arguing about denying a substantial minority of citizens of this country the right to participate freely in the democratic institutions of America, never once did anyone suggest we ought to somehow curtail the right of a minority to be heard in debate, extended debate. Never once. Yet here we are tonight, having an extended debate over three or four judicial nominations. We may be asked on Friday to cast a ballot about amending the rules of the Senate to fundamentally change what has been a central ingredient of why this institution has been as celebrated and honored throughout the 217-year history of this country. That I find rather appalling, that we would gather at this hour with all of the other issues in front of us.
I spent 2 hours yesterday at Walter Reed Hospital. I took my 2-year- old daughter out to visit with the young men there, many of whom are missing limbs. I saw several of my colleagues out there, by the way. Sam Brownback was out there. I went to spend a quiet couple of hours to express to these young men my great admiration for what they had done for their country.
I would like to think they might think something larger of this institution other than that we would engage in a discussion and debate tonight about three or four judicial nominations. Other of my colleagues have made comments about the numbers that have been approved and not approved. I am not a member of the Judiciary Committee. I have heard my colleagues extol the virtues of these nominees. I have heard others excoriate them. I will leave that debate for others. The vote I am most worried about is the possible fourth vote that may occur on Friday, and that is whether we are going to change the nature of this institution because some of us are disappointed about some outcomes of votes. I would hope whatever else ensues or passes over these next 30 or 40 hours that when it comes to that vote, maybe there will be those who will get up and defend this institution.
It is inappropriate for me to do so, but I will note the fact that there are those watching this debate this evening in this Chamber who are of a younger generation. They are students, I suspect, in some way wanting to participate or witness what some have tried to describe as an historic event. I would hope they take note of the arguments in debate about what is important, why the Founders created this institution, why we are not a unicameral body, as some State legislatures--why
we are a bicameral body, why it is there is down this corridor a House of Representatives at that end of the building and a Senate at this end. What are the fundamental distinctions between these two branches of one House? Why are we different? Why do we exist? What did the Framers have in mind when they created this institution? It is this very debate that gives justice, gives rationale to the existence of the Senate.
One needs only to go back to the Federalist papers, and as I look around this Chamber there are the forebears of those who sit in these seats who made the most eloquent arguments on behalf of the notion, of the idea, of having extended debate and the right and power to amend. Those are the two central ingredients which make this institution so unique.
When we begin to erode those very powers, then the very justification for this institution begins to diminish. We end up creating nothing more, potentially, than a mere image of the body that is at the other end of this hall.
I gave some remarks going back a number of weeks ago in front of the Rules Committee. I am the ranking Democrat of the Rules Committee. As such, I bear a responsibility, along with my colleague from Mississippi, who is the chairman of the committee, to consider such matters. I have great respect for the majority leader, but I would hope as we discuss the idea of amending rule XXII, that we would keep in mind what the Framers had in mind when it came to nominations, particularly nominations of a life tenure.
It is one thing to be talking about nominations during the duration of a given administration, but with judicial nominations it is for life. Depending on how young that person may be, an Federal judicial appointment can go on for decades. And so the Framers, given the experience they had come through, with the tyranny of a king, desired to create a system whereby the third coequal branch of government would have powers delineated between the executive branch to appoint and the legislative branch to approve, to provide its advice and consent.
If the ability of this institution to thoroughly exercise that right of advice and consent is destroyed, then we run the risk of creating a judicial branch, a coequal, that becomes nothing more than the hand servant of the executive. That is what the Founders worried about. It is what Senator Rutledge of South Carolina argued for when he spoke eloquently about the importance of keeping an independent judiciary.
In fact, for many weeks, during the constitutional convention, they argued the President ought to have no rights when it came to judicial nominations, that that right ought to be exclusively contained in the Senate of the United States. As a result of compromise, it was ultimately decided that the power to nominate individuals should reside in the executive, and the power to approve should remain here, thus guaranteeing, to the extent possible, an independent judiciary.
What is being suggested by the fourth vote we may be asked to cast on Friday is that we undermine that very principle which has survived for 217 years. I would hope with a resounding vote, both Democrats and Republicans, whatever strong feelings there may be about these three or four nominees, or whatever the number is, that we would not allow this institution to be diminished, caught up in the passions of these nominations.
History will not record nor remember who these people are, but if we undermine this institution's ability to do what our Founders asked us to do, then history will record forever our shortsightedness.
I regret in a sense having to engage in this debate. I was stunned to learn that in addition to this 30 hours of ``circusry'' going on here, and the three votes that will occur on Friday, there may be a serious effort to vote on whether this institution should give up its right to be able to have extended debate on judicial nominations.
This institution and its history deserve more. The fact that the Senator from Michigan and I have to arise at 10 at night to argue about something as fundamental as a rule change in the Senate and to be asked to vote on it with maybe 5 minutes of deliberation before that ballot is cast on Friday is incredible to this Member. It is incredible we would have to do this.
Does not anyone care about being here? We are only temporary stewards. My colleagues and I are just guaranteed a short amount of time to be a part of this institution. We do not own this. We bear an historical responsibility to those who came before, but an even greater one to those who come afterward, to see to it we maintain the order and the ideals embodied in the creation of this institution. That we would relegate a fundamental change in the rules of the Senate to a debate occurring between 10 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 a.m. in the morning, with a vote to that may be cast on Friday without further deliberation, I find stunning in its dimensions.
This is a matter that deserves far more deliberation and thought, whatever one's views may be on these nominations. To find ourselves, with all of these other issues that are in front of us, to have to defend the Senate in the wee hours of the morning about a rule that has sustained us as an institution, is something I regret deeply.
I hope my colleagues, whatever their passions may be about Miguel Estrada, Priscilla Owen, William Pryor, and Charles Pickering--I do not know these individuals. I presume they are good people, whatever differences we may have, as I am sure there have been people who have been nominated in previous administrations who are also good people who were rejected because the majority today disagreed with them. I am sorry that happens to people, but unfortunately, that is one of the aspects of a process such as we have, as imperfect as it is.
The idea that our passions are so wrapped up in these individuals that we are willing to squander the rules of the Senate is disturbing. We should always know that it may only be a short time before roles may be reversed. This party in the minority may be the party of the majority in the future. And in the future, the party of the President may, of course, be different. I would hope we would never suggest changing the rules of the Senate because we are momentarily disappointed that certain individuals, whatever contributions they may have made in their lives and to their communities, are so deserving that they warrant changing the rules of the Senate because they are not getting a position they seek. I hope we have not come to that.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, parliamentary inquiry: Are we now starting 30 minutes of time on this side of the aisle? I thank the Chair. Tonight the Senate is engaging in a proceeding to call the attention of the…
Mr. President, parliamentary inquiry: Are we now starting 30 minutes of time on this side of the aisle?
I thank the Chair.
Tonight the Senate is engaging in a proceeding to call the attention of the American people to a very serious matter which exists on the confirmation of Federal judges. It is not a matter which occurs just when there has been a Republican President, but it has occurred also when there has been a President of the Democratic party, when the Republicans controlled the Senate. It has gone back at least to 1987, during the second 2 years of President Reagan's administration.
When the Senator from Illinois calls this theater, he may be right, but it is factual theater, and it is worth the time of the Senate for the American people to focus on this important issue.
It is now a little after 8 o'clock Eastern standard time. Frequently, the Senate Chamber is dark at this time. It is true we could be conducting other business, but there are many days when the Senate has tarried. For example, on Monday, the day before yesterday, when there had been a longstanding expectation that the Senate would not be in session because Veterans Day is traditionally not a day in session, but we came back specially to try to finish our work by the projected date of November 21, unexpectedly we were greeted with a 10-hour filibuster by Senator Reid on the other side of the aisle. He has a right to do that--he is a Senator--under our rules.
It doesn't lie in the mouth of somebody to say we are spending time where we could have been working very hard on the appropriations process. I do hope we finish that process. I have been an appropriator for my 23 years in the Senate, and we should move to complete that work as promptly as possible.
But the subject matter tonight is the confirmation process, and it is a very serious subject. When President Reagan was in office, during the first 6 years where the Republican Party controlled the Senate, President Reagan secured confirmation of 82 percent of his district and circuit court nominees. In 1987 and 1988, when the Democrats were in control, that percentage dropped from 82 percent to slightly above 63 percent. When President George H.W. Bush was in office, all 4 years had the Senate in the control of the Democrats. The Senate confirmed slightly more than 62 percent of President Bush's nominees, and 54 percent of his nominees to both circuit and district courts were still pending in the Senate when his term ended.
President Clinton had about the same experience. In 1993 and 1994, there was an average of 79 percent of his district and circuit court nominees confirmed when his party controlled the Senate. For President Clinton's remaining 6 years, the percentage dropped to 54\1/2\ percent. So that the business of having the President of one party stymied or reduced in effectiveness on confirmation when the Senate is controlled by the other party has been really an apportionment of blame pretty much equally between Democrats and Republicans during the course of the Reagan, first Bush, and Clinton administrations.
The matter has come to a substantial decline, when, for the first time in the history of the Republic, some 216 years, there has been a filibuster of circuit court nominees.
I think it is important to note that we are not seeking tonight to break a filibuster. That would occur when we would seek to have those who were objecting to the judges continue to talk and talk until they ran out of energy or effort and stopped talking so that we could come to a vote. That was what happened in the filibusters on civil rights legislation in the 1960s.
The last time there was a filibuster in the Senate was 1987 when the subject was campaign finance reform. Senator
Byrd was the leader of the Democrats. Senator Dole, the leader of the Republicans, called all of us into the cloakroom behind us in the Senate Chamber at about 2 o'clock one morning and said: I would like all Republican Senators to stay off the floor. The reason Senator Dole asked everyone to stay off the floor was to compel the party in power, the Democrats, to maintain a quorum of 51 Senators because if there are not 51 Senators present, then any Senator may suggest the absence of a quorum, and the Senate conducts no further business.
When Republican Senators, including Arlen Specter, absented ourselves from the floor at Senator Dole's request, Senator Byrd, the leader of the Democrats, countered with a motion to arrest absent Senators. Sergeant at Arms Henry Giugni was then armed with warrants of arrest and started to patrol the halls, and the first Senator he found was Senator Lowell Weicker.
Sergeant at Arms Henry Giugni was a little fellow, about 5 foot 6 inches, 150 pounds. Senator Weicker was a big guy--still is--about 6 foot 4 inches, 240 pounds. This was at about 3:30 in the morning. Sergeant at Arms Giugni decided not to arrest Senator Weicker. I think he made a good judgment. Then he started to go around and knock on Senators' doors.
Senator Packwood foolishly answered his door. Senator Packwood was then carried feet first into the Senate Chamber. This is a true story. You don't get many out of Washington, but this is a true story. That incident attracted a great deal of attention. C-SPAN became the channel of choice instead of Jay Leno.
In having this proceeding, it is more accurately called a marathon than a filibuster because it is not a filibuster. Republicans are doing most of the talking. We seek to attract the attention of the American people to what is going on in the judicial system.
We have at the present time judicial emergencies in four of the circuit courts of appeals in the United States: the Fourth Circuit, the Fifth Circuit, the Sixth Circuit, and the Ninth Circuit. When these judicial emergencies occur, people are denied their day in court, cases languish, the matters are not decided, and the fact of life is that justice delayed is justice denied.
Without burdening the record unduly, it is worth noting that in the Sixth Circuit where there is a judicial emergency, a 50-percent vacancy rate on that court, a death penalty case has been pending for more than 8 years. A plaintiff in a civil case on a job discrimination suit trying to get a job had to wait some 15 months before the case came up. That individual died before the case was ever heard.
The ultimate answer, I suggest, is that cooler heads are going to have to prevail, and we are going to have to establish a principle where it applies regardless of what party controls the White House or what party controls the Senate.
Three years ago, I proposed a judicial protocol to establish a timetable that 60 days after the President submitted a nomination to the Judiciary Committee, there had to be a hearing; 30 days thereafter, there had to be action by the Judiciary Committee on the nomination; 30 days later, the matter had to be brought to the floor of the Senate. Those times could be extended on cause shown by the chairman of the committee with notice to the ranking member or by the majority leader with notice to the minority leader. But those time parameters should be established.
If there were to be a strictly party-line vote in the Judiciary Committee, then that matter ought to be advanced to the Senate floor even without having the customary majority vote to bring it to the floor.
One of the grave problems which may confront the Senate is what is going to happen next when there is a Supreme Court vacancy. The filibusters conducted up until the present time constitute an effort to elevate the confirmation process which under the Senate rules calls for 51 votes, or a majority, to 60 votes which it takes to end a filibuster.
For those who may not know what a filibuster is, that is when one party keeps talking and talking and talking endlessly. But that may be brought to a close under the rules of the Senate with 60 Senators voting to cut off debate. That then leaves 100 more hours to debate, plenty of time even after cloture, even after debate is ended or limited, before the matter comes to a vote.
It does not require a Nostradamus to predict or to understand that the current approach on imposing an ideological test is a precursor for the Supreme Court of the United States. When the Senate is constituted as it is at the present time, it is easy to project that we will find a Supreme Court nominee, who does not satisfy the standards of the other party, subjected to a filibuster and to have a vacancy on the Court. What we are moving toward is deadlock.
Right now, there still remains an aura of some civility in this Chamber, notwithstanding our disagreements on the tactics that one side or the other may use in the Senate. We know that the next vote is the most important vote. Notwithstanding the rancor of the arguments, we do understand that we are here to conduct the business of the people of the United States. The judicial system is limping along--still in motion but limping along.
We face a grave potential problem. If the current course of conduct continues so that when we have a nominee for the Supreme Court of the United States, we have this deadlock, and then with so many 5-to-4 decisions by the Supreme Court deciding the cutting-edge questions in our society, we may look to 4-to-4 decisions, and that means no ruling by the Supreme Court of the United States.
One additional thought. Senator Santorum and I use in Pennsylvania a judicial nominating panel under an arrangement where the President has three nominees and the Democrats have one nominee. During the 24-year period from the time President Nixon was elected until the time President Reagan was elected, Republicans controlled the White House for 20 of those 24 years. It seemed to me it was an undue balance of judicial nominees without having the Democrats with any nominees in the district courts, so an arrangement was made when Senator Heinz and I were the Senators, carried on by Senator Santorum and myself, to allow the party out of power, the Democrats, to have one nominee out of three for the President--one for the party out of power. That has had a very salutary effect in bringing a little bipartisanship into the process.
I do not suggest that for the Supreme Court. I do not press it for the court of appeals. But I think it is an idea worth considering for the U.S. district courts.
In conclusion--the two most popular words of any speech--it is my hope that something constructive will come out of this marathon. It is my hope that there will be some attention attracted to it. When the Senator from Illinois characterizes this as theater, I don't think that is especially derogatory because it is fact theater. The American people would be well advised to watch this theater than some of that which is on the national networks tonight. This is real. Those sitcoms go on and on and are repetitious. More important than the factual theater is that we are on a vital issue.
I hope the Senators hear from the American people. I hope the American people tell us what they would like to have done: Whether you would like to have this kind of projected stalemate where nominees wait endlessly and where it takes 60 votes, a supermajority, to cut off debate and bring it to a vote, or whether you would like us to follow the constitutional mandate of 51 votes in confirmation so that these judges may be confirmed, may take their places to see that justice is done in an equitable way within a reasonable time period.
I thank the Chair and yield the floor.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to legislative session and the Finance Committee be discharged from further consideration of S. 1853, a bill to extend unemployment…
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the Senate proceed to legislative session and the Finance Committee be discharged from further consideration of S. 1853, a bill to extend unemployment insurance benefits for displaced workers; that the Senate proceed to its immediate consideration; the bill be read a third time and passed, and the motion to reconsider be laid upon the table.
Mr. President, this is an unfortunate debate, and I regret that all of us are here this evening. This debate will do nothing to speed the confirmation of judges about which this session has been called to consider. It will do nothing for the economy, for health care, for education, to protect the environment, or to advance the interests of our Nation's security.
It will, however, at least in small part, bring this august body, about which we care so much, to additional disrepute with the American people, making us look ineffectual and irrelevant.
In some respects, the Senate is being reduced to something close to a farce. It is becoming rapidly not the world's greatest deliberative body but instead the world's greatest Kabuki theater, a place where speeches are given to which very few people listen, no minds are changed, and votes are then held with complete predictability of results.
The search for principled compromise, which has always been a long and honorable part, distinguishing this body from other legislative bodies, has been abandoned in favor of sterile, ideological warfare, satisfying to only the most fervent of partisans. After this debate, I suspect that the far right will be satisfied, I suspect that the far left will be satisfied, and that the rest of the American people will be left scratching their heads, wondering, what on Earth are they doing?
I am reminded of nothing quite so much as some lines from Shakespeare when he characterized another instance as: Great sound and fury that signifyeth nothing.
That is tonight's debate: Sterile, empty, barren of results.
This debate, unfortunately, is a microcosm of everything the American people have come to not like about both the Congress and Washington, DC, something that is all too often all process and partisanship, with no progress on matters of substance and importance to the American people.
Too often the American people view Washington as totally self- absorbed, indifferent to their real concerns, and ineffectual in accomplishing much of value on the things that do matter in their daily lives: Health care, jobs, education for our children and grandchildren.
We must stop this cycle of constant recrimination, a process in which the minority obstructs to gain power and then turns around and complains about obstruction once power has been obtained. It makes us all look bad.
If hypocrisy had a monetary value, we could easily erase the Federal deficit because of debates such as the one we are engaged in tonight.
What is this all about? What are the facts that the American people deserve to know? Is it true that judges are being obstructed solely because of their partisan affiliation? That obviously cannot be the case. One hundred and sixty-eight of President Bush's judicial nominees have been confirmed. I assume that all of them, if not almost all of them, are good card-carrying Republicans or he would not have nominated them. Obviously, there cannot be some stonewall to object to Republicans being appointed to the Federal judiciary. This simply is not the case.
Are judges being rejected up to a point based solely upon ideological concerns? This also cannot possibly be the case. Of these 168 judges who have been confirmed, I assume that all, if not almost all, are in fact fairly conservative jurists, or hold out the prospect of being fairly conservative jurists. Otherwise, they would not have been nominated by this President.
So up to a point, it is obvious that conservatives are not being denied their place upon the Federal judiciary. This is all about power, the balance of power between the executive and legislative branches and whether the advise and consent function should be abolished whenever the Senate is controlled by the party of the President. It is all about the balance of power between the minority and the majority caucuses in this Senate and whether the right to debate should be limited in the case of judicial nominees, unlike any other business taken up by this body.
It is also about tipping the balance of power within the Federal judiciary and setting the stage for a Supreme Court vacancy to be filled by someone of even the most extreme ideological conviction and views.
Is that possibly what the Constitution had in mind when it established the right of advise and consent in this Senate? Is that something for which we should abrogate the right to unlimited debate in this Senate, selecting judicial nominees in exclusion to all other topics in this regard? Of course it is not.
We are ignoring the issues this evening that are of most importance to the balance of the American people. When I go home, I hear great talk about the economy and job losses. In the last 3 years, we in the State of Indiana have lost approximately one out of every six of our manufacturing jobs. One hundred fifty-nine thousand jobs, nonfarm jobs, have been lost during this period of time. That is what I hear people talking about. Small business men wonder how they are going to compete in the global economy today. Large business men and women wonder how they are going to make ends meet, particularly with the skyrocketing cost of health care. Many people ask how we are going to compete with China, India, and other countries that all too often seek to abuse the rules of international trade to seek unfair economic advantage. Those are the subjects we should be debating tonight.
Those are the topics that are on the minds of Hoosiers to whom I talk. Very rarely am I asked about vacancies in the Federal judiciary.
When I was returning from Indiana just last evening, one of the security guards, a gentleman who looked somewhat advanced in his years, called out to me as I was going through security, saying: Senator, what about the Medicare drug benefit? Is something going to get passed?
I said: I hope so.
He said: Well, it probably will not be structured the way it ought to be anyway.
I said: Well, I hope not. We are going to go back and see if we cannot hammer out a reasonable compromise.
I see some of my colleagues, including Senator Grassley, who are laboring mightily toward that very end, and I salute him for that. That is what we should be debating tonight, how to reconcile our differences on providing drug coverage to senior citizens who are asking about it; how to make health care available to the American people in a way that is accessible and affordable. That is what is on the minds of Hoosiers to whom I talk. That is what we should be debating this evening in this body.
What about our education standards and what about providing our children and grandchildren with access to quality affordable education? When I think about the economy of the future, more than anything else it is going to require advanced levels of education,
skill, and know-how. We are going to prepare my young sons and the rest of our children and grandchildren to have a better standard of living in a prosperous economy. It is going to be based not upon how strong they are but upon how knowledgeable they are, how well trained they are, how skilled they are. That is going to enable us to build a better economy. We are not debating that tonight.
At no point, in my recollection, have we set aside 30 hours to debate quality health care. At no point, in my recollection, have we set aside 30 hours to debate the economy or what we are going to do to create quality jobs. At no point, in my experience in the Senate, have we set aside 30 hours to talk about what we can do to debate quality education in the way we are setting aside these 30 uninterrupted hours in the wee hours of the morning. This is a clear example of misplaced priorities.
I hope this Senate will extricate itself from the morass into which we have sunk and begin to rehabilitate ourselves in the eyes of our countrymen and women. I hope we can once again begin to address the great issues that are of concern to the American people, that press all around us--what our country can do to be more prosperous, more just and more free. Above all, I hope that we as Senators can remember why we are here, and that is not to wage war upon one another but instead to once again renew the struggle against the ancient enemies of man: Ignorance, poverty, disease. That is why we are here, not sterile ideological debates.
I hope we can learn from this experience so that we will not have to repeat it. I hope we can focus on making progress, not dividing this body over the country. This aisle that separates the chairs, Republicans on one side and Democrats upon the other, gives us the opportunity to build bridges of reconciliation and understanding, forging principled compromise which has always been the hallmark of this institution. We have strayed from this heritage for too long. It is a tradition to which we must return if we are to once again recapture the confidence of the American people.
The final thing I will say is that we had an election in Indiana for our mayors this last Tuesday, a week ago yesterday. Something on the order of 20 percent of the people of my State turned out to vote for our mayors. When I had the privilege of being elected to this body in 1998, about 36 percent of the eligible voters in my State took the time to go to the polls. That is barely one out of three. In the closest Presidential election in the history of our country 2 years ago, decided finally by the Supreme Court, barely half of the American people felt connected enough to their institutions of self-governance to take even the most elementary step of citizenship--going to the polls to register their preference.
What has happened to our democracy? What has happened when 20 percent or 36 percent or a bare majority feel invested enough in the cause of shaping their own destiny to take the time to participate in our elections? If we are going to renew our democracy, if we are going to lead this country to meet the great challenges of our time, if there is one thing I am absolutely certain, it is that it will take all of us, each and every one of us from every ethnic group, racial group, gender, and walk of life.
Too many people have become disillusioned. Too many cynical, too many skeptical whether this body and their government can make a difference anymore. Events such as this debate tonight do not help.
We need to get back to the business at hand, putting before the American people an agenda of hope and opportunity so we can once again reenlist them in the cause of making this the greatest democracy known to man. That, at the end of the day, is what has brought us here. I suggest that is the business to which we must once again return.
I yield the floor.
We cannot hear you. Mr. President, first of all, I want to lay it on the record that Carl Levin, the senior Senator from Michigan, is not inconsistent in any way. We all know what happened to Carl…
We cannot hear you.
Mr. President, first of all, I want to lay it on the record that Carl Levin, the senior Senator from Michigan, is not inconsistent in any way. We all know what happened to Carl Levin and the Michigan delegation is the fact that there were no hearings on the judges he wanted--no hearings.
That is the reason some 20 percent of the Clinton nominees never made it. They refused to hold hearings. Carl Levin would have welcomed the procedure we are going through because if it had gotten here, and there had been an attempt to filibuster, cloture would have been invoked.
Carl Levin, I say to my friend, the junior Senator from Virginia, is not and has not been inconsistent in any way.
I want to refer to this. We have to understand what we are talking about here. Mr. President, 168 judges have been approved; 4 have been disapproved. For people to continually come on this floor, as if history facts have no bearing on what they are talking about--they believe, on the other side, if they keep saying it long enough, that there have never been filibusters before--that people will believe it.
I show everyone this New York Times headline of September 25, 1968. Headline: ``Critics of Fortas Begin Filibuster, Citing `Property'.'' ``Griffin Attack Lasts 3 Hours. . . .''
Of course, we know that was a filibuster. Senator Byrd participated in it, as we recall. I say to my friends on the other side of the aisle, please do not say this is the first time there has been a filibuster, because it is not true. It is not true.
I also want to refer to the next chart, something that is important to the American people. What do I think we should be dealing with? During the time President Bush has been President, we have lost more than 3 million
jobs in the private sector. I think that is fairly significant.
Also what we should be talking about is my next chart to show what the President of the United States and his administration have done to create jobs in America.
Here is what the President has done to create jobs. Can everyone see this chart? In fact, we can turn it around. It is the same on the other side, isn't it? Let's see what is on the other side. Yes, the same thing. This is what the President has done to create jobs: nothing.
He has lost 3 million jobs. That is what we should be talking about here tonight, not the fact this is the first filibuster we have ever had in the history of the country. You can say it once, twice, 1,000 times--it is not true. Other judges have been filibustered and we have had attempts to invoke cloture. It has been successful sometimes; sometimes it has not been successful.
Let's look at this next chart. It is interesting we are spending 30 hours talking about things we should not be talking about. We are talking about judicial vacancies, which are at the lowest rate in almost 15 years. What we should be talking about are those things that are going up, not the thing that is going down. We should be talking about the 44 million Americans who tonight will go to bed with no health insurance. That is what we should be talking about. We should also be concerned about the millions of Americans who are underinsured.
Mr. President, 44 million people have no health insurance, and we are here spending our time lamenting about the 4 people who want job increases; that is, they want to get better jobs. Miguel Estrada, let's not shed too many tears for him. He makes a half a million dollars a year. I think we should be talking about the people who have no health insurance, about the people who have lost jobs in this administration-- the 9-plus million people who are unemployed, as we speak. Why can't we spend that time, that is, 30 hours dealing with issues that are important to the American people?
We also know, in addition to having 44 million people uninsured, that during the last 3 years those people who are poor in America have increased in numbers. The numbers have ballooned. We have the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer, and we are squeezing the middle class so it is getting smaller and smaller. Wouldn't it be nice if we talk about poor people? I recognize they do not have lobbyists. Maybe they do not have Gucci shoes and these big limousines, but they still deserve our time.
The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer. Shouldn't we spend part of this 30 hours talking about them? The unemployed: We have talked about that issue. I have talked about it tonight on more than one occasion. But the American people have to recognize that during the administration of George Bush the unemployment rolls have gone up.
The national debt: What has happened to the national debt during the last 3 years? It has gone up, way up. It is interesting to note that during the last 3 years of the Clinton administration, we were spending less money than we were taking in. We were actually paying down the national debt. We were being criticized for paying it down too fast: Be careful; you can't do that.
Well, whoever heard that term really took it in spades because the fact of the matter is, we are now increasing the national debt. This year's budget deficit will be the highest in the history of our great country.
Everything that is going up we are not talking about. We are talking about people who have jobs, and they lost an opportunity to get a promotion.
I ask unanimous consent that the Senate now return to legislative session and proceed to the consideration of Calendar No. 3, S. 224, the bill to increase the minimum wage, that the bill be read a third time, passed, and the motion to reconsider be laid on the table.
I am not surprised. I am not surprised. We have the audacity on this side of the aisle to ask that the minimum wage be increased from $5.15 to something more. Why, these people who draw minimum wage, think about it, if they work 40 hours a week, 52 weeks a year, and don't get any time off for vacation, they can make the grand sum, working a whole year, of $10,700. What pigs. They want to get that much money?
I say we should recognize the people drawing minimum wage are not a bunch of high school kids working in a fast food chain. The fact of the matter is 60 percent of the people drawing minimum wage are women. For the majority of those women, that is the only money they get for them and their families. I cannot imagine that we have had such a difficult time bringing up something so important to the American people, the minimum wage, to increase it from $5.15 an hour, maybe increasing it $1, maybe increasing it $1.50.
I know that is pushing the envelope a lot to think this body would take up something as unimportant as people getting an increase in the minimum wage. No. What we should do is worry about four people, four people, one of whom makes a half a million dollars a year downtown. Then we can also worry about other people, those other three who, between them, make about a half a million dollars.
I have no understanding in my heart how the majority can continually deny us the opportunity to do something about the minimum wage.
Remember, the judicial vacancies are at their lowest level in almost 15 years. While we are here talking all night about judges, 44 million people, as I have indicated earlier, will go to sleep tonight with no health insurance, none, and millions of others have insurance that is not very good.
Nine million, almost 10 million people will go to bed tonight wondering if tomorrow they will finally be able to find a job-- recognizing that the average person who loses a job in America today is out of work for 5 months. That is the average, 5 months. And it does not matter. It does not matter what strata we are talking about. People in America have trouble finding jobs. The average is 5 months.
We have tried earlier today, through a unanimous consent request, to spend some of these 30 hours talking about having an extension of unemployment benefits. No.
We have asked tonight to increase the minimum wage, to debate that. No.
I think it pretty well describes what is going on here today.
This is an issue that people think if they talk about how unfair we are, that, yes, what we have done here is so bad--we have approved only 98 percent of the President's requests to become judges. Only 98 percent. If we had it up to 99 percent, would we only be here for 15 hours?
I think this is a travesty. I say that without any question. Others have referred to it as a carnival and a circus. Whatever it is, the unemployed, those people who are poor, those people who have no health insurance are not getting their time in the Senate.
Who is getting time? Four people: Estrada, Owen, Pickering, and Pryor. That is not fair.
I yield to the Senator from New York.
Will the Senator yield for a question?
Does my friend from New York support the unanimous consent requests--plural--that have been entered today on the record and rejected by the majority, first of all to extend up employment benefits? Does the Senator from New York believe we would be better advised to go forward on something like that than on these four people who do have a job?
I ask another question. Does the Senator also agree that rather than going through 30 hours of this--first of all, with all due respect, everybody, including me, everything that has been said so far tonight in these 5 hours has already been said.
And I am sure for the next 25 hours, there will still be nothing new. Having said that, I ask my friend from New York, does he think it would be a good idea that the unanimous consent requests I proffered where I asked to do something about the minimum wage right here on the Senate floor tonight, does the Senator think that would be a good idea to help the American people?
I wish the Senator from Michigan, Mr. Levin, were still on the floor. In his arguments, he cited a quote from Lyndon Baines Johnson as to what would be the best gift that could be given, I believe he…
I wish the Senator from Michigan, Mr. Levin, were still on the floor. In his arguments, he cited a quote from Lyndon Baines Johnson as to what would be the best gift that could be given, I believe he said, to the Soviet Union or those behind the Iron Curtain. He thought the best gift would be unlimited debate.
I could think of a lot of other things you would want to give people who are repressed than unlimited debate. Maybe freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of religious beliefs, private property rights, due process, equal protection of the law, maybe even the right to bear arms so they can overthrow the dictatorship.
Unlimited debate--that does not strike me as what is needed in a democracy. What one wants is adherence to the Constitution, accountability and responsible action by those who are elected by the people. And we want fairness, which is being denied here, without potential for filibustering.
This is what Senator Levin said that President Johnson said: ``If I should have the opportunity to send into countries behind the iron curtain one freedom, and only one, my choice would be to send those nations the right of unlimited debate in their legislative chambers.''
I expect they could have had all sorts of unlimited debate but what one wants is adherence to our U.S. Constitution.
Let me share with our distinguished chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Senator Hatch, some words that have been said recently: Judgeships are currently vacant, causing undue delays in justice for citizens served by the court. The candidates for these vacancies deserve to have an up-or-down vote on their nominations. The Senate should not be playing politics with the Federal judiciary.
Guess who said that? Senator Carl Levin in a press release on May 24, 2000.
Then Senator Levin said, on October 3, 2000, in the Congressional Record: I believe the Nation as a whole deserves to have these nominees and other nominees awaiting hearings and votes acted on by this Senate, as well. I believe it is also unfair. Perhaps this is the most important of all to the people who await justice in their courts.
Senator Levin said that on October 3, 2000.
Then Senator Levin also said that leadership had a responsibility to advise and at least vote on judicial nominees.
And parallel to the debates we are having on several of the judges this evening that will go on through tomorrow and into the morning on Friday, he said: Two of the women who we are focusing on today are from Michigan. They are nominees for the court of appeals. The truth of the matter is that the leadership of the Senate has the responsibility to do what the Constitution says we should do which is to advise and at least vote on whether or not to consent to the nomination of nominees for these courts.
That was September 14, 2000, 3 years ago. I wish that Senator Levin were still on the floor so I could ask him whether he was right in 2000, saying the Constitution demanded and required Senators to act and vote on nominees. Or does he really believe that the most important responsibility is for endless debate?
I say to the Senator from Utah, Mr. Hatch, what we have seen is stalling and more stalling and more stalling. They can debate endlessly, but at the end of every debate, at the end of every examination, of everyone's qualifications and capabilities, and whether Miguel Estrada, Priscilla Owen, or any other of the nominees, ultimately the responsibility is, as Senator Levin said 3 years ago, it is our responsibility to act, to vote. The Constitution demands it. Accountability to our constituents and our respective States demands it. And fairness should not continue to be denied to these many nominees because
of the obstruction and also the very inconsistent statements that have been made this year compared to past years.
I ask the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, would you find these statements to be prior inconsistent statements which call into question the desirability of having endless debates in the Senate or in the committee, especially after the committee has decided on a majority vote to report out, favorably, a judicial nominee?
I have a followup question. In view of our friend from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and his articulate, passionate statement, Senator Santorum, out of the thousands and thousands of nominations, how many have been filibustered? Zero, is that not correct?
Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Arizona. We have heard some comments about we ought to be talking about jobs and the economy. On this side of the aisle, we are always looking at ways to make our tax laws, our regulatory policies, and our legal system more conducive to more jobs with more investment in this country.
We have heard this evening all sorts of excuses and justifications for filibustering. For example, we heard mentioned earlier by the Senator from Michigan, Mr. Levin, a citation as justification from Lyndon Johnson who said: ``If I should have the opportunity to send into countries behind the iron curtain one freedom and only one, my choice would be to send those nations the right of unlimited debate in their legislative chambers,'' to which my view was, gosh, there are a lot more important rights, such as freedom of expression, freedom of religion, property rights, due process under the rule of law.
When we get to the rule of law and how important that is for the credibility in this country, whether it is people in this country or outside of America to take a risk and invest in this country, the fair adjudication and administration of laws is very important. It is vitally important that we have judges on the courts so that if there are contractual disputes, or if property is being taken, or if there is a dispute, it is as expeditiously handled and decided rather than being delayed because of insufficient judges.
In many of these circuits, we have judicial emergencies. In fact, it is a fundamental principle of the American judicial system that justice should be blind, that people can get a fair hearing regardless of who they are, where they come from, or what they look like. Surely, nominees to the Federal bench deserve the same rights to a fair hearing as any of us.
Our sense of what is right for the country tells us that the most political among us realize that it is imperative that our courts are in working order. Common sense tells us that many of America's highest courtrooms do not have judges to run them and as a result the legal system cannot function.
When it is said that the economy is somehow not doing as well as it should, all of us, on this side of the aisle, President Bush and his Cabinet, are working to make sure that our economy gets stronger and more jobs are created. In fact, the gross domestic product is the best in nearly 20 years. We had negative growth in 2001, obviously because of a variety of factors, including, of course, the terrorist attacks. The gross domestic product has grown every quarter since the passage of the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of June of 2001.
It grew our economy by a 7.2-percent annual rate the third quarter of this year. This was the fastest pace of growth since 1984, almost 20 years ago. Employment continues to make gains. Payrolls increased by 126,000 new jobs, net new jobs, in October. The stock market continues to grow. That means more money for people's nest eggs, for their security and retirement.
Business is reacting favorably to tax relief and corresponding economic growth, where businesses are growing, thereby providing more jobs. We also find an increase in disposal household income, where mothers and fathers have more money so they are spending it on their children, which is great for those who are selling whatever products or services that they are purchasing, as well as whoever is packaging, transporting, fabricating, assembling, or manufacturing what they are purchasing.
Dividend relief also is leading to billions of new dividends distributed to shareholders. All of this is going on now. It also is important, though, that we have judges and the fair administration of the rule of law in the laws that we pass.
We cannot have activist judges. Activist judges create uncertainty. Businesses want to know what the laws will be so they can make those strategic long-term decisions. To have judges coming up with activist inventions of new laws that were not written or adopted by the legislative branch is dangerous for security, jobs, and investment in this country.
To put a fine point on judges, look at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. Ask those affected every day by the decisions by our Federal appellate courts whether confirming circuit court nominees is important.
The people of California almost had their constitution gutted by a three-judge panel in the Ninth Circuit only to have a larger panel of the same circuit reinstate their constitutionally authorized gubernatorial recall election. I think it is pretty important who sits on the Ninth Circuit.
I am sure those in circuits where, for example, schoolchildren in Montana, Nevada, Arizona, and Idaho, who cannot say the Pledge of Allegiance because of leftwing activist judges in that circuit, who say that if one person takes offense at some other revering our flag, then the pledge is unconstitutional, would say these judges do matter.
They matter in our everyday lives. They matter in our schools. They matter in our businesses. Let's put in judges who will interpret the law, not invent it.
I am not surprised because what we are about tonight is not the issues families care about. We are about a political script. Senator Reid of Nevada read to us this all-points bulletin that was sent…
I am not surprised because what we are about tonight is not the issues families care about. We are about a political script. Senator Reid of Nevada read to us this all-points bulletin that was sent out to the Senators saying: Be sure and get over here exactly at 6 o'clock. It said: The Fox News channel is really excited about this marathon. Britt Hume at 6 would love to open with all of our 51 Senators walking on to the floor. The producer wants to know, will we walk in exactly at 6:02 when the show starts so they can get it live to open Britt Hume's show, or, if not, can we give them an exact time for the walk-in?
That is what this is about: It is about theater. The theater we are witnessing tonight is one where, frankly, the curtain should come down. We ought to start talking about things people really care about across America. I can tell you, it is not about 4 judges out of 172. We have approved for this President 168 of his nominees. I think it is a new record. I do not think any President in that brief a period of time has had 168 nominees approved. Lest you believe the Democrats dragged their feet, we approved 100 of these judges during the 17 months Pat Leahy was chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. The remaining 68 came through under Republican Chairman Hatch. I think there has been a concerted and conscientious effort to give the President
his nominees. Then, of course, there were 4 who were not approved--168 to 4. So 98 percent of this President's nominees have been approved. By any reasonable standard, this President is doing very well. Most people would agree, except for the 51 Senators on the other side of the aisle. They believe unless the President gets every nominee, this is a miscarriage of justice.
Sadly, though, they are ignoring the obvious. The obvious is the Constitution of the United States gives this Senate the authority to say yes or no, to advise and consent. Article II, section 2: Advice and consent of the Senate. Some of these Republican Senators would like to see this phrase go away and make their argument at least a little plausible, but it is a fact. We have the authority under the Constitution we swear to uphold to make these decisions; and we have made them.
Of course, not only is the Constitution on our side, but the rules of the Senate are on our side. It reminds me in law school, they told you early in a trial advocacy course--and this a cliche, I know--they used to say: If you have the law on your side in your trial, beat on the law. If you have the facts on your side, beat on the facts. But if you do not have the law or the facts on your side, beat on the table. That is what is happening in this 30-hour marathon. Our Republican colleagues are beating on the table. The law is not on their side.
The Constitution says we have the authority to say no. We have said no 4 times out of 172 opportunities. It is constitutional to do so. Are the facts on our side? Are we being unfair to stop 4 judges, approving 168 and stopping 4? I do not think so.
Frankly, if you look at the record of the Republicans in control of this same committee with a Democratic President, you will find some 63 nominees were never given the decency of a hearing. They never had a chance to even appear and introduce themselves to the committee. The decision was made by the Republican leadership, with a Democratic President, not to even let them in the building.
I have been through this. Three of my nominees that happened to. Do you know what it consisted of? If any one Republican Senator objected to any nominee, end of story. They effectively had a filibuster by one Senator. They stopped these nominees in their tracks.
I can recall going to Senator John Ashcroft, our Attorney General, with one extraordinarily talented nominee, and pleading with him, after the man had waited for a year for a hearing, pleading with him to at least meet the man. Let him come before the committee. No way. The answer was no. End of story. End of nomination.
That was the treatment accorded to three judges from my State during the short period of time when I was here and President Clinton was President, as the Republicans ruled the Senate Judiciary Committee.
I lost 3 nominees. Did I rally my Democratic colleagues: ``Let's all get together and hold our breath and turn blue for 30 hours because I have lost 3 nominees''? No. Maybe I could have. Maybe I should have. But I did not. I understood it. I thought it was fundamentally unfair, and I still do.
What we have done to these four nominees is not unfair. Each and every single one of them has had a hearing. Each and every one of them has been able to come to the committee and present their credentials. That never happened to 63 nominees offered by President Clinton.
This President has a pretty good batting average when it comes to the Senate: 98 percent of his nominees have gotten through. But for the 2 percent, we are meeting this evening.
I might add here, if you take a look at the issues at hand, the Senator from Nevada raised an interesting one. Almost without fail, the majority of the 168 nominees were all members of this Federalist Society. It sounds like a secret handshake society. It is something else. I am not sure exactly what it is. I will tell you why I am not sure.
I do know this. If you are an aspiring law student who one day wants to be a Republican nominee for a judgeship, my recommendation to you is to join the Federalist Society today and do not miss a meeting because, frankly, that is a requirement if you are going to make it into the ranks of judges in the future.
What is it about this society? I don't know. But if you scratch the DNA of all these Republican nominees, you are going to find that Federalist Society chromosome. It is in every one of them. Time and again, I have said to these nominees: What is the Federalist Society? What does it mean to you? Some people say it is a rather extreme organization that views the law and the Constitution in a manner that most Americans do not. But when I ask these nominees--I can remember a Professor Viet Dinh of Georgetown Law School where I went to school many years ago. I said: You belong to the Federalist Society. Why? He said: Because I get a free lunch in Chinatown once a month.
Well, I think it is more than that. If you go to their Web site and ask the Federalist Society what they believe, what they put on their Web site is they talk about how we have lost control of the law and the liberals are taking over--all the stuff you expect. Then when you ask each of these nominees: Well, do you agree with that? ``Oh, no,''--with one exception: Mr. Pryor. William Pryor of Alabama says, yes, he does agree with it. If you got to know Mr. Pryor, you would understand he is rather unabashed in his political beliefs.
The fact of the matter is, the nominees we are receiving from the White House are not mainstream nominees. Sadly, of the 168 we have approved, many could be challenged as outside the mainstream, and that is not what America is looking for.
President Clinton knew if he sent up a real liberal, someone who, frankly, had the credentials of the left, he did not stand a chance before Senator Orrin Hatch's Judiciary Committee. We would strive to find people with extraordinary legal credentials, people who really have made a difference in terms of their practice of law and what they have done; and they, too, suffered before that same committee.
This President has no qualms. The people he sends to us, whether it is Miguel Estrada or whether it is William Pryor or Priscilla Owen, each and every one of them have come back--Charles Pickering--with credentials that just do not pass the middle-of-the-road test.
Why are we doing this for 30 hours? Let's lay it on the line. This memo from Fox News tells you why we are here. We are here to grind raw meat for the Republican rightwing, so television networks like the fair and balanced Fox News network can rail on for days and weeks about this 30-hour tribute to the Republican point of view, so the radio talk show hosts, who blather on every single day from the right, will have much more to talk about. And instead of dealing with real issues, paying for the Veterans' Administration, so we can get that done, and meet our obligations, taking care of the unemployed across America, so they can feed their families and avoid bankruptcy, we do not have time for that. Our time has to be focused and dedicated to this debate.
I will say to my colleagues in the Senate, I think my friends on the Republican side will have to agree with this: Though they do not like the outcome of the four judges we have talked about here, we have given the nominees, even when Senator Leahy was chairman, ample opportunity to explain who they are and what they stand for. I think what we have asked for is reasonable.
What we ask of every judicial nominee, from a Democrat or Republican President, is really basic. They have to be people who are honest, of high integrity. They have to understand the law. They should be people who do not come to this job with an ax to grind. That is not too much to ask. Four have failed that test; 168 have been approved.
Mr. President, I want to focus on a chart that was displayed earlier by the Senator from New York where he proudly displayed the numbers 168 to 4. I think it is important we ask the question: what is…
Mr. President, I want to focus on a chart that was displayed earlier by the Senator from New York where he proudly displayed the numbers 168 to 4. I think it is important we ask the question: what is that chart designed to prove?
On one hand, our colleagues on the other side of the aisle in the Judiciary Committee and here in the Chamber rail against the President's judicial nominees, calling them out of the mainstream and, even worse, mean-spirited, right wing. But if, in fact, our colleagues on the other side of the aisle have voted to confirm 168 of President
Bush's nominees, it refutes that allegation because they have to agree that at least 168 of those nominees met their definition of mainstream.
I would like to associate myself with the outstanding comments of the Senator from Kentucky, the assistant majority leader, Mr. McConnell. I wonder what their definition of mainstream truly is.
The second number of 4 is a number they want to be congratulated for blocking. I submit that just because you observe a stop sign 168 times and comply with the law, you are not to be rewarded for running that stop sign four times. It is still a violation of law, and you are still likely to get a ticket from the police officer.
This is more than just about breaking the law. This is about violating our Constitution, the fundamental law of this Nation.
We know really, rather than 168 to 4, the true number we ought to be focusing on is 0 to 4, and let me explain.
From 1789 to 2002--that is, for all of our Nation's history up until this year--the number of filibusters against judicial nominees of a President was--you guessed it--zero. But this year alone, because of this tactic that our colleagues have devised, to deny a bipartisan majority of this body its right under the Constitution to vote up or down on a judicial nominee, this number is 4.
So rather than 168 to 4--and as I explained, I think that repudiates and flies in the face of some of their arguments about President Bush's judicial nominees, and I deny that they are to be congratulated for unconstitutionally obstructing only 4. The real number we ought to be focusing on, and I hope the American people are focusing on, is zero to four because never, ever, in the history of this Republic has a minority in the Senate denied the right of the majority the vote up or down on judicial nominees. It is just not right. It is not fair. It has resulted in a degradation and a downward spiral in the judicial confirmation process of which no one should be proud.
I submit that four unconstitutional filibusters of these distinguished nominees is four filibusters too many. If we want to look at maybe a little bit of a history lesson, as this chart demonstrates, when Franklin Delano Roosevelt was President of the United States, 4,473 laws were enacted, 4 civil rights laws were filibustered--hardly something to be proud of. But I guess if our colleagues across the aisle are proud of their four, the argument would be that the people who filibustered these civil rights laws during FDR's term ought to be proud of that number.
When President Truman was in office, 3,414 laws were passed, 3 civil rights laws were filibustered. Is that something to be proud of? What our colleagues across the aisle say, because 3,414 laws were passed and only 3 were filibustered, that these folks who filibustered those three civil rights laws ought to be congratulated. I think not.
Then when President Lyndon Baines Johnson was in office, 1,931 laws were enacted, 3 civil rights laws were filibustered. To this hall of shame, I would add the 168 to 4, which is nothing to be proud of; it is something to be ashamed of.
Unfortunately, some people have lost their sense of shame in this process, which has become so degraded and so destructive. Indeed, I submit that the filibusters we have of the President's nominees are an abuse of the process. How can they justly claim that a 60-vote requirement to close off debate can somehow trump the Constitution?
As we have heard before on this floor, everyone knows, who has studied the Constitution, that there are supermajority requirements for certain things, and they are stated in the Constitution: To ratify a treaty or to pass a constitutional amendment, the Constitution is very clear that it requires a supermajority. Everything else requires majority rule.
Indeed, majority rule is fundamental to the democratic form of government. Majority rules: We fight our best fight; we make our best argument. Then we have a vote up or down. If we lose, well, we come back to fight another day. We try to persuade others that we were right and the majority was wrong. That is what our form of government is all about; not denying a majority their right, as stated in the Constitution, to let majority rule.
Believe it or not, that is what is happening and that is the reason we are standing here tonight trying to let the American people know that a terrible abuse of this process is occurring and an abuse of the Constitution, indeed a violation of the Constitution, is occurring. It is a disgrace. It is nothing to be proud of.
The other thing I would point out in the few minutes I have remaining, before I turn the floor over to the senior Senator from Texas, is this process is not only abusing the Constitution and creating a downward spiral in the judicial confirmation process that is very destructive of relationships in this institution, of our ability to get things done, it has made it too partisan, too bitter, too angry, and it is destructive.
I would also point out that the tactics that are being used against some of these nominees are despicable. Unless we stand up and repudiate the tactics of some of those who are opposing the fine nominees of President Bush, such as Janice Rogers Brown, I believe those who have joined cause with them in opposing this fine nominee ought to examine their conscience. I think they ought to reconsider their tactics. I think they ought to reconsider whom they associate with, whom they are joining cause with to tear down some of the fine nominees of this President, such as Janice Rogers Brown.
This is a cartoon that was posted on The Black Commentator on September 4, 2003, with President Bush, a racist caricature of Janice Rogers Brown with Justice Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Secretary of State, and Condoleezza Rice standing there. The caption says: ``Welcome to the Federal bench, Ms. Clarence--I mean, Ms. Rogers Brown. You'll fit right in.''
It is easy to see why this process has gone downhill and needs a wake-up call from all of us, because we need a fresh start. We need to disavow tactics such as this. Those who are opposing Justice Brown and other nominees should not be proud of that association any more than they claim to be proud of an unconstitutional filibuster of four of these nominees, including Justice Brown, because if, in fact, we do not get a fresh start, we do not have a clean break with this destructive process, if we do not quit tearing down people who want nothing more than to offer themselves to the American people by serving in positions of honor, such as Federal judges, who will answer the call? If they know that answering the call of public service means that they are going to have their reputation destroyed, they are going to be besmirched, they are going to be painted into a caricature that bears no resemblance to who they really are, who will answer the call? We will all be poorer for it.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, Senator Hatch will be on the floor shortly. Before he gets here, I want to talk about one of the nominees who we will be voting on, once again, with cloture votes on Friday. That is…
Mr. President, Senator Hatch will be on the floor shortly. Before he gets here, I want to talk about one of the nominees who we will be voting on, once again, with cloture votes on Friday. That is Justice Priscilla Owen. Justice Priscilla Owen has had a vote in the Senate. She has had four or five votes in the Senate.
If we were adhering to the Constitution of the United States, she would be sitting on the Fifth Circuit today. There are three vacancies on the Fifth Circuit. They need to fill their bench. She should be sitting there because she has gotten more than 51 votes. But Priscilla Owen is not sitting on the Federal bench today because we have a new standard that has been put in place for the first time since 1789. Last year, we started having a 60-vote standard for Federal judges.
So Priscilla Owen, although she has repeatedly and every time, gotten over the required 51 percent, is not sitting on the Federal bench today. No. Instead, this very qualified supreme court justice of the State of Texas is doing her job, doing it very well, serving as a supreme court justice in the State of Texas, even though she has gotten the requisite number of votes on repeated occasions to be confirmed as a Federal judge by the standards of this Congress from 1789 until 2002, until the rules were changed because we are now filibustering Federal judge nominees.
Priscilla Owen was endorsed by every newspaper in Texas when she ran for reelection. Priscilla Owen made the highest grade--the highest grade--on the bar exam when she took it. She graduated at the top of her class from Baylor Law School. She has had an exemplary record both as a supreme court justice for the State of Texas and as a practicing lawyer. She is experienced. She is qualified. She was rendered qualified by the ABA system, the committee, and she has been endorsed by Democrats and Republicans throughout Texas. She has been endorsed by Democratic supreme court justices with whom she served on the Supreme Court of Texas.
The former chief justice of the supreme court, a Democrat, named John R. Hill, who also was a Democrat attorney general in the State of Texas--a very fine one, a very respected lawyerNOTICE
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in Texas; supreme court chief justice and attorney general of our State--said Priscilla Owen is unqualifiedly the best we could have for this court. She is a person who ought to be on the Federal court.
In fact, he came up here and tried to meet with Democratic Senators to talk about how qualified she is. That Priscilla Owen is not sitting on the Fifth Circuit today is a tragedy, and it is not right.
She is not the only one who has been asked to meet this higher standard. Look at Miguel Estrada, who came to our country as a boy and did not even speak English, who studied so hard that he was able to go to Columbia and become a Phi Beta Kappa, and then to Harvard Law School, where he graduated, again in the top of his class.
Miguel Estrada, the American dream; Miguel Estrada, who sat here since May of 2001, who got the requisite number of votes to be confirmed for the DC Circuit--well over 51--time and time and time again, but he is not sitting on the DC Circuit. He finally said: I can't take this anymore. I have to get on with my life. In September, he said: Take my name off the list.
Why? Why have we set a higher bar for Priscilla Owen and Miguel Estrada--these two perfectly qualified people, with great academic standing, with great records, with experience, everything you would want on the Federal bench?
What are we going to do to the people who would ask for Federal benches in the future? I am very concerned that after watching this process so many of them are going to say: Please, don't throw me in that briar patch.
So, Mr. President, I do not think we should change the Constitution of the United States without going through the process of a constitutional amendment. Have we had a vote on the floor that got a two-thirds majority saying that we will have a 60-vote requirement for confirming Federal judges? Have we done that? That is the process for amending the Constitution of the United States.
But I do not think that since I have been here I have seen a vote that would say: No, it is not a 51-vote margin; it is 60. No, Mr. President, we have not had that vote. But, in fact, the amendment to the Constitution is being put forward without going through the process. Because we now have six people nominated to the circuit court bench who are having to meet a higher standard than 51. And that is not right.
To date, our President, President Bush, has had 63 percent of his nominees to the circuit court confirmed. The previous three Presidents have had 91 percent of their circuit court judges confirmed by this time in their terms.
So I am going to turn the floor over to the distinguished chairman of the Judiciary Committee who has done a wonderful job trying to get these nominations through the process. He has done a magnificent job in trying to bring these great nominees to the floor.
But we are standing here tonight because this is a constitutional issue, and it is important. It is important that these good people, who have submitted themselves for this process to be confirmed as Federal circuit judges, be able to, with dignity, have a vote up or down with the same standard that we have had since 1789; and that is a 51-vote margin.
Thank you, Mr. President. I yield the floor.
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Will the Senator yield for a question? I notice my friend's voice from Utah is cracking a bit, and I thought I might give him a moment's relief by asking him a question or two. I would ask the…
Will the Senator yield for a question?
I notice my friend's voice from Utah is cracking a bit, and I thought I might give him a moment's relief by asking him a question or two.
I would ask the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, was it not the case that the current DC Circuit Judge John Roberts and nominee Miguel Estrada were nominated on the same day in May of 2001?
I would ask my friend from Utah, is it not true that the rationale for defeating Miguel Estrada given by the other side was that either he or the Justice Department or both of them refused to turn over the working papers that he had produced during his period as a lawyer in the Solicitor's Office of the Justice Department?
Right. Was it also not the case, I ask my friend from Utah, that every single living Solicitor, who are either current or former Solicitors, the majority of which are Democrats, concurred with the Justice Department's position that these working papers should not be turned over?
People such as Seth Waxman and Archibald Cox?
All concurred?
All concurred that these types of working papers should not be turned over?
Is it not the case, I ask my friend from Utah, that both John Roberts and Miguel Estrada worked in the Solicitor's Office?
The same two gentlemen we just discussed, who were nominated on the same day back in May of 2001, by President Bush, for the very same court?
Nominated to the same court, the same experience in the Solicitor's Office. And is it not the case, I say to my friend from Utah, that John Roberts was passed out of committee and subsequently confirmed on a voice vote in the Senate?
He certainly had to wait a while, did he not?
Is it not the case that you had two nominees nominated on the same day, to the same court, having had the same experience in the Solicitor's Office, and one nominee was rejected because internal papers in the Solicitor's Office were requested and not turned over, and no such request for the same kind of office papers were made of now Judge Roberts?
So the request was made for certain papers of one nominee and the precise same papers of the other nominee were not requested?
Let me ask my friend from Utah, is there any conceivable basis for such disparate treatment for the same two people, nominated for the very same court on the very same day, going through the very same Judiciary Committee? Can the Senator from Utah think of any rational reason for this kind of disparate treatment?
But the stated reason, I would say to my friend from Utah, you just confirmed a moment ago. The stated reason for not confirming Miguel Estrada was that he would not turn over these papers or the administration would not turn over these papers.
That was the stated reason.
So I say to my friend from Utah, what we have is a situation where a white male nominee, to the very same court, with the very same experience, was treated one way and a Hispanic-American nominee, nominated to the very same court, on the very same day, was treated differently?
It sounds to this Senator, I wonder if the chairman concurs, that there was a sort of rule created and applied to Miguel Estrada----
That was not applied to John Roberts, two nominees considered for the same court at the same time.
Which is why, I say to my friend, they didn't ask for those papers on John Roberts.
So I say to my friend from Utah, and I will conclude with this, the practical result of that is this immigrant who came to the United States as a teenager, speaking broken English, realized the American dream, went to undergraduate and law school, was a star student, argued 15 cases before the Supreme Court, was denied an opportunity to get an up-or-down vote on the Senate floor by the creation of a standard that was not applied at the very same time to another nominee who was not a minority.
They were having a hard time, I say to the chairman, trying to find some basis upon which to defeat this guy. He was unanimously well qualified by the ABA, right?
He argued 15 cases before the Supreme Court.
He received outstanding recommendations from everyone with whom he worked. They were having a real struggle, weren't they, I say to my friend, the chairman, trying to find some basis upon which to reject this truly outstanding nominee.
Isn't it true, I ask my friend from Utah, in California where the justice to whom you just referred serves on the supreme court, you have to stand periodically for continuation?
You can be rejected. Is it not true she got three- fourths of the votes?
This is in that bastion of conservatism, California.
This nominee who was called outside the mainstream-- outside the mainstream--gets about three-fourths of the vote in that bastion of conservatism--California--and the other side suggests she is somehow unacceptably conservative? That is absurd on its face, I argue to my friend.
Isn't it also true, I say to my friend, the chairman, that one of the arguments used on some of the nominees is because they have certain personal beliefs, that they won't uphold the law? Has that been an argument frequently made?
Which is what I was going to ask my friend, the chairman.
This is the same Bill Pryor who is currently standing up against the Alabama chief justice.
Who has been defying a court order by refusing to remove the Ten Commandments from a public building. It is very unpopular in Alabama to be against that guy.
A classic example of following the law and not his own personal beliefs; is that not correct?
I object.
I object. Mr. President, how much time is left in the first section for the majority? Mr. President, in response to a number of things that have been said, first of all, I want to correct Senator…
I object.
Mr. President, how much time is left in the first section for the majority?
Mr. President, in response to a number of things that have been said, first of all, I want to correct Senator Durbin. I think he misspoke when he said the Senate has said no to these nominees. What the Senate has said no to is an up-or-down vote. They have denied these nominees a vote. In
each case, these nominees have proven they have a majority of the Senators in this body ready and willing to confirm them, if they are given the up-and-down vote. The systematic use of the filibuster that is occurring now has never before occurred in the history of this Senate.
As to the Constitution, I will just point out article II, section 2, quoted by the Senator--this is what it says--the President ``shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors [and] judges. . . .''
Historically, this body has felt that constitutional language meant treaties required a supermajority, two-thirds vote, and judges would be confirmed by a majority vote, and that is what we have done.
I would just like to ask--I was going to ask Senator Reid early, the distinguished assistant Democratic leader--name one position taken by the Federalist Society that is extreme. He will not be able to give you one of those, and neither would Senator Durbin. This is a society of people who meet and discuss ideas. For example, they have had, in recent weeks, Senator Schumer's chief counsel speaking to the Federalist Society, as has Cass Sunstein, Marcia Greenberger, Laurence Tribe--three of the architects of the Democratic strategy for changing the ground rules of nominating judges.
This is really odd for me. I know Senator Durbin said he has some legislation he would like to offer. Maybe he should have offered it Monday when the assistant majority leader was talking 10 hours down here about rabbits and cactus in Nevada and his book. That was all very interesting, but why weren't we doing any work then? I did not hear any complaints then when we were not passing legislation. That would have been an outstanding opportunity, I submit, to move forward.
Let me just say one thing about where we are on nominations. President Clinton had 377 judges confirmed. One judge was voted down on an up-or-down vote on this floor, a majority voted no--only one. When he left office, there were 41 judges pending and unconfirmed--only 41. President Clinton personally withdrew the nominations of 18. That is how they get 60.
When former President Bush left office, under Democrat control of the Senate, as Republicans were under Clinton, he had 54 nominees left unconfirmed. The record of the Republican Senate under President Clinton was superior under any standard of confirmations to that of the Democrats.
I believe we need to remember those numbers. We need to remember the Republicans rejected consistently the use of the filibuster. It was discussed by people. They said: Why don't we filibuster? Senator Hatch and others would say: We do not filibuster judges. This is why you do not filibuster judges. We never filibustered judges. In fact, one nominee I felt strongly about, whom I voted against, I voted for cloture to bring that nominee up for a vote to overcome a hold that was on the nominee.
My colleagues complain about the Federalist Society. They say they are extreme. They take no extreme positions whatsoever. They are a society that believes in the rule of law and they discuss those issues in free and open debate. But they have moved forward here such as Marsha Berzon and Ruth Bader Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.
ACLU members, American Civil Liberties Union members--do you want to know what their stated positions are on a lot of issues? They oppose steadfastly the death penalty. They openly support partial-birth abortion. They are consistently hostile to law enforcement. They oppose pornography laws, all pornography laws, in fact, even child pornography laws. They favor legalization of drugs.
We have confirmed a lot of ACLU members, as the Senator knows. They have stated positions that are contrary to the mainstream of American thought--no doubt whatsoever.
Somebody such as Attorney General Bill Pryor, who has a record of following the law to the letter, whether he agrees with it or not, is castigated because he makes a talk to the Federalist Society. It is suggested that is an extreme thing for him to do and it is not correct.
Mr. President, I yield back the time.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, I have spent a fair amount of time on the floor tonight listening. I am a freshman on the Judiciary Committee. There are a great many things Senators can do. They can speak…
Mr. President, I have spent a fair amount of time on the floor tonight listening. I am a freshman on the Judiciary Committee. There are a great many things Senators can do. They can speak flamboyantly, they can speak articulately, they make history, but they cannot rewrite history.
I heard a few phrases tonight that were trying to rewrite a little of the history. So I thought for a few moments I would read from a letter from the Senator who was there for the Abe Fortas debate, not a filibuster but a debate, a cloture vote. We are trying to say tonight that cloture votes are somehow filibusters. Well, my goodness, what an interesting term of art. Most importantly, what an interesting play of words.
Filibusters are nonstop speaking. Cloture votes are simply to gain the majority necessary, a supermajority, to continue the work of the Senate. Now, those are the rules of the Senate.
Let me read a letter that came to us from Robert Griffin, Republican Senator from Michigan. He writes to the Honorable John Cornyn, chairman of the Subcommittee on the Constitution:
Dear Mr. Chairman: An Associated Press piece which appeared
yesterday in many of the Sunday newspapers (copy attached)
speculated that Chief Justice Rehnquist and/or Justice
O'Connor might retire this year or next, and concluded with
this comment: Presidents have not had much success in
appointing Supreme Court justices in election years. . . .
The last person to try it was Lyndon Johnson in 1968, when he
failed to elevate Justice Abe Fortas to replace Chief Justice
Earl Warren. Republicans filibustered the nomination and
Johnson backed off.
That is what the article in the paper said. Here are the facts from a Senator who was on the floor at the time debating the Abe Fortas nomination. He goes on:
Whether intended or not, the inference read by many would
be: Since the Republicans filibustered to block Justice
Fortas from becoming Chief Justice, it must be all
right for Democrats to filibuster to keep President Bush's
nominees off the appellate courts. Having been on the scene
in 1968, and having participated in the debate, I see a
number of very important differences between what happened
then and the situation that confronts the Senate today.
First of all, four days of debate on a nomination for Chief
Justice is hardly a filibuster.
He goes on to speak of the remarks that he gave in closing out that debate.
When is a filibuster, Mr. President? . . . There have been
no dilatory quorum calls or other dilatory tactics employed.
The speakers who have taken the floor have addressed
themselves to the subject before the Senate, and a most
interesting and useful discussion has been recorded in the
Congressional Record.
Those who are considering invocation of cloture at this
early stage on such a controversial, complex matter should
keep in mind that Senate debate last year on the investment
tax credit bill lasted 5 weeks--
In other words, Senate leadership is now considering imposing a cloture vote on the debate that has gone on for 4 days. Nothing was said about a filibuster. So we go on, and he speaks about that. Then he says:
While a few Senators, individually, might have contemplated
the use of the filibuster, there was no Republican Party
position that it should be employed. Indeed, Republican
leader of the Senate, Everett Dirksen, publicly expressed his
support for the Fortas nomination shortly after the President
announced his choice. Opposition in 1968 to the Fortas
nomination was not partisan. Some Republicans supported
Fortas; and some Democrats opposed him.
Then he goes on to speak about the cloture vote. There were 45 in favor of the motion and 43 against.
What happened the next day, when the President, a Democrat President, could see he simply did not have bipartisan support on the floor for a majority, 50 plus 1? He pulled the Abe Fortas nomination. There was no filibuster. There was simply a cloture vote.
Now, it is a term of art that is trying to be finely defined tonight and finely written. When is a filibuster a filibuster? When is a cloture a cloture? Well, my colleagues cannot use the Abe Fortas example as a filibuster because simply this Senator will never allow other Senators to rewrite history. History is what it is at the time it is recorded and the Congressional Record clearly demonstrates----
I will not yield at this time.
It is simply a fact recorded in the Congressional Record, so spoken by Robert P. Griffin, then the Senator from Michigan, who was there debating the cloture.
Mr. President, if I could ask the Senator a question. Maybe he could help me understand something I am having a difficult time understanding. I had the privilege of serving as a law clerk in the…
Mr. President, if I could ask the Senator a question. Maybe he could help me understand something I am having a difficult time understanding.
I had the privilege of serving as a law clerk in the 1960s to the Honorable John Minor Wisdom on the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals. Judge Wisdom was among the four Republican-appointed judges who presided over the peaceful desegregation of the South. I have lived in the South and grown up in the South and know something about what those years were like.
I have been mystified, since I am not a member of the Judiciary Committee, by the treatment of Judge Pickering of Mississippi and Attorney General Bill Pryor of Alabama. I do not know Judge Pickering. I have met him briefly only twice. My staff and I studied his record. I have heard insinuations and words that were carefully chosen by the other side to suggest he was guilty of not being sensitive on racial issues. Yet when I looked into his record, I discovered, quite to the contrary. He had been living in Laurel, MS. In 1967, just to cite one example, he had testified in public against the leader of the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan, which were the closest thing we had to terrorists in the United States of America in the last half century--an act of courage.
So here is a man who throughout his whole life was far out front on issues of race relations. He was living in an area where it was hard to do, and he had not been quiet, he had not been backward, he had been far out front of his neighbors on issues of race relations.
Then I learn about Mr. Pryor, the Attorney General of Alabama, and I realize in hearing Senator Sessions talk that he, too, was a law clerk to Judge Wisdom, the great civil rights judge in the South. I hear it said Mr. Pryor is somehow insensitive to racial and other matters.
Yet looking into his record, I learned he is at the moment seeking to oust the chief judge of Alabama in the case involving the chief judge's failure to obey a Federal court order to remove the Ten Commandments from the State Supreme Court, that the State Attorney General of Alabama wrote all the football players and coaches in Alabama to say they could not pray before football games because the law did not allow it, that he wrote to the district attorneys telling them they could not enforce a law against abortion, that he took a case all the way to the United States Supreme Court that was against the Republican party to which he belonged. It seemed to me here is a man who I recall Judge Wisdom talking about as a wonderfully talented young man. The judge was very proud of him. Here he has this record of upholding the law when it would be enormously unpopular in Alabama and certainly must be against his own views.
What is it about these two southerners, the latter one, the editor in chief of the Tulane Law Review, a law clerk to Judge Wisdom, this distinguished person; and then Judge Pickering, who was a leader for civil rights, endorsed by former Governor William Winter, the Democrat, endorsed by Frank Hunger, Al Gore's brother-in-law. What is it about the other side that will not allow us to have an up-or-down vote on those two southerners who have been nominated by the President to be a judge?
May I ask the chairman, did he not, as Attorney General of Alabama, advise the local district attorneys they could not enforce a law passed by the Alabama State legislature----
Because it would be in violation of a Supreme Court decision?
I wonder if the chairman remembers--I have heard a lot of talk tonight about what a great protection of minority rights the filibuster is.
I am trying to think back to the 1950s and the 1960s. How many rights of African Americans in the South were protected by the filibuster in the 1950s?
In the 1960s? How long was civil rights legislation held up in this very body by the filibuster? What was it that caused the cloture rules to be changed so now it takes 60 to override instead of 67? It was the Nation's anger about the filibuster, denying equal rights for African Americans in the South in the United States.
What is so great about the filibuster in terms of protecting the rights of minorities and individuals if it delayed progress on civil rights for so long in this country?
Mr. President, I want to respond directly to the comments made by the Senator from Connecticut. I too sit on the Rules Committee and I take a responsibility here, being a steward, as the Senator from…
Mr. President, I want to respond directly to the comments made by the Senator from Connecticut. I too sit on the Rules Committee and I take a responsibility here, being a steward, as the Senator from Connecticut said, a temporary steward of this place. One would think, if they listened to the comments of the Senator from Connecticut, that what the Republicans are trying to do is change the rules.
I have a chart of the last 11 Presidents since the ``filibuster rule'' has been around: 2,372 judicial nominations confirmed, zero filibustered.
Who is changing the rules? This is a wonderful world we have: That left is right, right is left, up is down, in is out.
The rules have been changed by practice. They hold up a chart 168 to 4. This states 2,372 to nothing. Never been done. Walk through these Halls. Stand in this Chamber. If the walls could speak of the great debates, the intense,
partisan, vicious debates that occurred in this Chamber, fights that have occurred on the floor of the Senate because of the passions of the moment, so firmly believing that what you were fighting for was right.
But not once, not one time did they put that passion for that short- term partisan or political or policy game in front of the sacred constitutional process that governs this country.
What does that constitutional process dictate in the case of judicial nominations? Look at the precedent my friends. Look at the precedent. No filibusters. Because the Constitution says that it is a majority vote. In spite of the rancor, in spite of the partisanship and the stakes so high so many times in our country's history, they always had the perspective because, yes, I say to the Senator from Connecticut, they knew they were temporary stewards. They took that responsibility seriously so they did not corrupt the rules.
Why are we changing the rules? We are not trying to change the rules. We are trying to bring back the rules that have been in this country for 214 years. We are trying to change the rules? We are not being good temporary stewards? Me thinks thou doest protest too much. We are simply trying to set this Senate back to the days the Senator from Connecticut recalls as a boy, when giants did stroll this Senate, where big matters were at stake, but they put the integrity of the process, the integrity of the Senate because we are a country of laws and rules and constitutions. We do not twist them and corrupt them to meet the short-term political needs that some interest group off the Hill was pleading for you to do.
That is what is happening here. That is what occurs here, and will occur, unfortunately, if we do not have a change of heart by a number of people on the other side of the aisle again on Friday so the 98- percent button that I see and the 168 to 4 will now be 168 to 6 and then 168 to 7 and then to 8 and then to who knows? Because once we corrupt the system, once we twist the rules to meet our partisan end, there is no end other than a complete debasement of what this Senate has stood for 2,372 times before.
I yield the floor.
Mr. President, first, may I thank the distinguished chairman of the Judiciary Committee. I thank the Presiding Officer and I thank the distinguished chairman of our Judiciary Committee. I say to my…
Mr. President, first, may I thank the distinguished chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
I thank the Presiding Officer and I thank the distinguished chairman of our Judiciary Committee.
I say to my colleague from Virginia how proud we are to be from the Commonwealth of Virginia from whence so many Framers of the Constitution came. I compliment you on your remarks tonight. I am privileged to serve with you because you represent, in my judgment, all the fine things about the Commonwealth. I try, in my humble way these 25 years, to do the same.
The Senator referred to this Constitution. The question I have to our distinguished chairman is very simple. I want to go back to the hot summer of 1787, when 55 individuals had gathered from the Colonies to work from May 25 to September 17 to frame this precious document. It was a long, hot summer. Tireless trips from their homes to Philadelphia. As a consequence, today, our form of government is the oldest continuously functioning government on Earth today. I have been challenged on it. But almost every other government in existence at the time this Constitution was written have fallen into the dustbin of history. Someone challenged me about Switzerland. Yes, Napoleon crossed the Alps and ceased that government for a period of time. This is a government that has continued to function.
As the delegates emerged on the final day, September 17, Ben Franklin walked down the steps and was met by a reporter. I thought of that little history tonight when a reporter asked me, what is it that you are doing tonight in the Senate? Mr. Franklin answered that question on September 17, 1787. He said to that reporter: We have given you a Republic, if you can keep it.
This Constitution explicitly gives to the President of the United States the power to appoint the judges. In Section 2, it explicitly gives to the Senate, not the Congress, but to the Senate, the responsibility of advice and consent.
Three coequal branches of the Government and the judiciary perform that critical function of keeping the power of each of the other two, executive and legislative, in balance. That is what we are doing tonight. I ask the distinguished chairman, are we not, in the immortal words of Ben Franklin, here tonight for one sole purpose, to keep our Republic?
Mr. President, just to get an understanding, after that 2 minutes 20 seconds, then it goes to the Democratic side for 30 minutes and then back to the Republican side? Is that the way it is? Mr.…
Mr. President, just to get an understanding, after that 2 minutes 20 seconds, then it goes to the Democratic side for 30 minutes and then back to the Republican side? Is that the way it is?
Mr. President, in the 2 minutes that I have, I say I think the junior Senator from Texas made a very important point and that is the importance of the delicate balance of powers that was put in our Constitution. I think it is important that we do not say, well, 98 percent of the time we adhere to the Constitution. We need to adhere to the Constitution 100 percent of the time.
The Constitution has always said, from its beginning, that we would have a majority required to confirm the judicial nominees of the President. Now, this is by implication, because when the Constitution meant to have a supermajority, it so stated. We have always had a majority, and that is what, by its silence, the advise and consent part of the Constitution has required for judicial nominees, until last year.
In fact, I think the President is losing his constitutional right to appoint Federal judges. I think this whole situation is going to deter good people from offering themselves for the bench,
and the judiciary must have good people if we are going to keep that very strong separation of powers with three separate but equal branches of Government.
In his first 2 years of office, President Bush was able to get 53 percent of his circuit court judges confirmed. The previous three Presidents each had 91 percent in the first 2 years of their office in the very important circuit court judge appointments.
Now, the circuit court, of course, is the next step below the Supreme Court. So a 53 percent record in the first 2 years is something that I think should not be accepted. It is very important that we try to get votes on these judges.
Mr. President, I thank the distinguished chair of the Judiciary Committee, the Senator from Utah, for yielding. I have a question that reflects upon the implications, changing the constitutional…
Mr. President, I thank the distinguished chair of the Judiciary Committee, the Senator from Utah, for yielding. I have a question that reflects upon the implications, changing the constitutional standard. The Senator from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania noted that of the past 11 Presidents' judicial nominees, 2,372 were confirmed, zero filibuster. The President was elected and he has served his responsibilities on the part of his office; we have our responsibility. I take it that the Senator from Utah would say part of those responsibilities in the Constitution give us the opportunity to vote, a majority vote to confirm or deny the confirmation of judges.
The question I have concerns a comment that appeared in a Minnesota paper. Like the Senator from Colorado, Minnesota papers have commented on this problem. There was a column by George Will, a nationally syndicated columnist, that appeared in the Duluth News Tribune. He said the following, and I ask the Senator from Utah whether he would agree with this statement: If the Senate rules, exploited by an anticonstitutional minority, are allowed to trump the Constitution's test and two centuries of practice, the Senate's power to consent to judicial nominations will have become a Senate right to require a 60- vote supermajority for confirmations by thus nullifying the President's power to shape the judiciary, the Democratic Party will yield a Presidential power without having won a Presidential election. Would the Senator from Utah agree with this statement?
Will the Senator, if I could just follow up--so the record is clear----
It is clear, in the history of this great Republic, the Senate has not denied a confirmation of a circuit court nominee by filibuster?
I thank the Senator.
Will the Senator yield? I ask the Senator, through the Chair, there have been statements made by the majority, for weeks, months, that never ever in the history of the country has there been a…
Will the Senator yield?
I ask the Senator, through the Chair, there have been statements made by the majority, for weeks, months, that never ever in the history of the country has there been a filibuster conducted regarding a Federal judge. Would the Senator again state whether or not those statements regarding filibusters of Federal judges having never been held is true or false?
Another question I ask my friend from Illinois, through the Chair, what I have heard the Senator state tonight is that on numerous occasions--in fact, the chart that is behind you indicates this--that there would be numerous occasions going back to at least 1968, there have been filibuster after filibuster, and sometimes they have tried to invoke cloture on more than one occasion; is that true?
Will the Senator yield for a question that I ask through the Chair?
The Senator from Illinois is a member of the Judiciary Committee. Would you explain to the people watching this--whatever it is--would you explain to the people how a person gets to the Senate floor to be nominated for a judge? How do they
get here? What is the process? Explain to the people of the country what you mean when you say someone never had a hearing.
Will the Senator answer this question?
I direct the question through the Chair to my friend from Illinois. The number 168 on the chart behind you, does that represent 168 people who have been nominated by President Bush who are now serving in the Federal judiciary who have lifetime appointments?
When the majority uses their time, the half hour will be divided in whichever way the Senator from Michigan, Mr. Levin, and the Senator on the other side wishes to divide 30 minutes.
I thank the fine Senator from Utah. I thank the fine Senator from Utah for yielding. Many papers in the State of Colorado have expressed a concern that we are not voting on judicial nominees, along…
I thank the fine Senator from Utah.
I thank the fine Senator from Utah for yielding.
Many papers in the State of Colorado have expressed a concern that we are not voting on judicial nominees, along with many papers throughout the country. I have three papers that expressed a view. I would like to have the chairman respond to the comments made in these three papers.
Many people throughout Colorado wonder what the impact might be on having a filibuster and how that will affect the Federal judiciary. Many of them live in the great city of Pueblo. In fact, the Pueblo Chieftain observed, ``some liberals are trying to create a second legislative body,'' referring to the judiciary, ``that will pass measures which they cannot get passed because they're often opposed by a majority of Americans.'' The paper fears this will lead to ``a serious erosion of the separation of powers.''
Does the Senator from Utah share those concerns?
That is correct. I thank the chairman for responding to those comments made in those three major papers in the State of Colorado.
We do need to move on for a vote. They express the view of many in Colorado. I thank the chairman for giving me an opportunity to ask the question.
Will the Senator yield for a question? Did the Senator know that although the Senator from Alabama strongly opposed Berzon and Paez and voted against both those nominees, that there were holds on…
Will the Senator yield for a question?
Did the Senator know that although the Senator from Alabama strongly opposed Berzon and Paez and voted against both those nominees, that there were holds on those nominees, and the Republican leader, Trent Lott, moved for cloture to move the nominations forward, and this Senator, as did Trent Lott, voted for cloture to bring an up- or-down vote and voted against the nomination although we----
That is not the kind of filibuster we have going on today.
Bill Text
Latest available legislative text
[Congressional Bills 108th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
[S. 1853 Introduced in Senate (IS)]
108th CONGRESS
1st Session
S. 1853
To provide extended unemployment benefits to displaced workers.
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IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
November 12, 2003
Mr. Kennedy (for himself, Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Daschle, Mr. Durbin, Mrs.
Murray, Ms. Cantwell, Mr. Sarbanes, Mr. Levin, Mr. Bingaman, Mr.
Schumer, Mr. Baucus, Mr. Reed, Mr. Rockefeller, and Mr. Kerry)
introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the
Committee on Finance
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A BILL
To provide extended unemployment benefits to displaced workers.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.
(a) Short Title.--This Act may be cited as the ``Unemployment
Compensation Extension Act''.
(b) Table of Contents.--The table of contents for this Act is as
follows:
Sec. 1. Short title; table of contents.
TITLE I--TEMPORARY EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION
Sec. 101. References.
Sec. 102. Extension of the Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation
Act of 2002.
Sec. 103. Entitlement to additional weeks of temporary extended
unemployment compensation.
Sec. 104. TEUC-X trigger fix.
TITLE II--RAILROAD UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
Sec. 201. Temporary increase in extended unemployment benefits under
the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act.
TITLE I--TEMPORARY EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION
SEC. 101. REFERENCES.
Except as otherwise expressly provided, whenever in this title an
amendment is expressed in terms of an amendment to a section or other
provision, the reference shall be considered to be made to a section or
other provision of the Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation Act
of 2002 (Public Law 107-147; 26 U.S.C. 3304 note).
SEC. 102. EXTENSION OF THE TEMPORARY EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION
ACT OF 2002.
(a) Six-Month Extension of Program.--Section 208 is amended to read
as follows:
``SEC. 208. APPLICABILITY.
``(a) In General.--Subject to subsection (b), an agreement entered
into under this title shall apply to weeks of unemployment--
``(1) beginning after the date on which such agreement is
entered into; and
``(2) ending before July 1, 2004.
``(b) Transition.--In the case of an individual who is receiving
temporary extended unemployment compensation for the week which
immediately precedes the first day of the week that includes July 1,
2004, temporary extended unemployment compensation shall continue to be
payable to such individual for any week thereafter from the account
from which such individual received compensation for the week
immediately preceding that termination date. No compensation shall be
payable by reason of the preceding sentence for any week beginning
after December 31, 2004.''.
(b) Effective Date.--The amendment made by this section shall take
effect as if included in the enactment of the Temporary Extended
Unemployment Compensation Act of 2002 (Public Law 107-147; 26 U.S.C.
3304 note).
SEC. 103. ENTITLEMENT TO ADDITIONAL WEEKS OF TEMPORARY EXTENDED
UNEMPLOYMENT COMPENSATION.
(a) Weeks of TEUC Amounts.--Paragraph (1) of section 203(b) is
amended to read as follows:
``(1) In general.--The amount established in an account
under subsection (a) shall be equal to 26 times the
individual's weekly benefit amount for the benefit year.''.
(b) Weeks of TEUC-X Amounts.--Section 203(c)(1) is amended by
striking ``an amount equal to the amount originally established in such
account (as determined under subsection (b)(1))'' and inserting ``7
times the individual's weekly benefit amount for the benefit year''.
(c) Effective Date.--
(1) In general.--The amendments made by this section--
(A) shall take effect as if included in the
enactment of the Temporary Extended Unemployment
Compensation Act of 2002 (Public Law 107-147; 26 U.S.C.
3304 note); but
(B) shall apply only with respect to weeks of
unemployment beginning on or after the date of
enactment of this Act, subject to paragraph (2).
(2) Special rules.--In the case of an individual for whom a
temporary extended unemployment compensation account was
established before the date of enactment of this Act, the
Temporary Extended Unemployment Compensation Act of 2002 (as
amended by this title) shall be applied subject to the
following:
(A) Any amounts deposited in the individual's
temporary extended unemployment compensation account by
reason of section 203(c) of such Act (commonly known as
``TEUC-X amounts'') before the date of enactment of
this Act shall be treated as amounts deposited by
reason of section 203(b) of such Act (commonly known as
``TEUC amounts''), as amended by subsection (a).
(B) For purposes of determining whether the
individual is eligible for any TEUC-X amounts under
such Act, as amended by this title--
(i) any determination made under section
203(c) of such Act before the application of
the amendments made by this title shall be
disregarded; and
(ii) any such determination shall instead
be made by applying section 203(c) of such Act,
as amended by this title--
(I) as of the time that all amounts
established in such account in
accordance with section 203(b) of such
Act (as amended by this title, and
including any amounts described in
subparagraph (A)) are in fact
exhausted, except that
(II) if such individual's account
was both augmented by and exhausted of
all TEUC-X amounts before the date of
enactment of this Act, such
determination shall be made as if
exhaustion (as described in section
203(c)(1) of such Act) had not occurred
until such date of enactment.
SEC. 104. TEUC-X TRIGGER FIX.
Section 203(c)(2)(B) is amended to read as follows:
``(B) such a period would then be in effect for
such State under such Act if--
``(i) section 203(d) of such Act were
applied as if it had been amended by striking
`5' each place it appears and inserting `4';
and
``(ii) with respect to weeks of
unemployment beginning on or after the date of
enactment of this clause--
``(I) paragraph (1)(A) of such
section 203(d) did not apply; and
``(II) clause (ii) of section
203(f)(1)(A) of such Act did not
apply.''.
TITLE II--RAILROAD UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE
SEC. 201. TEMPORARY INCREASE IN EXTENDED UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS UNDER
THE RAILROAD UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE ACT.
Section 2(c)(2) of the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act (45
U.S.C. 352(c)(2)) is amended by adding at the end the following:
``(D) Temporary increase in extended unemployment
benefits.--
``(i) Employees with 10 or more years of
service.--Subject to clause (iii), in the case
of an employee who has 10 or more years of
service (as so defined), with respect to
extended unemployment benefits--
``(I) subparagraph (A) shall be
applied by substituting ``130 days of
unemployment'' for ``65 days of
unemployment''; and
``(II) subparagraph (B) shall be
applied by inserting ``(or, in the case
of unemployment benefits, 13
consecutive 14-day periods'' after ``7
consecutive 14-day periods''.
``(ii) Employees with less than 10 years of
service.--Subject to clause (iii), in the case
of an employee who has less than 10 years of
service (as so defined), with respect to
extended unemployment benefits, this paragraph
shall apply to such an employee in the same
manner as this paragraph would apply to an
employee described in clause (i) if such clause
had not been enacted.
``(iii) Application.--The provisions of
clauses (i) and (ii) shall apply to an employee
who received normal benefits for days of
unemployment under this Act during the period
beginning on July 1, 2002, and ending before
July 1, 2004.''.
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