Continuity in Representation Act of 2005
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Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 61.
March 19, 2005
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Introduced in House
February 16, 2005
Referred to the House Committee on House Administration.
February 16, 2005
Mr. Ney asked unanimous consent that the Committee on House Administration have until midnight on Feb. 24 to file a report on H.R. 841. Agreed to without objection.
February 17, 2005
Committee Consideration and Mark-up Session Held.
February 17, 2005
Ordered to be Reported (Amended) by Voice Vote.
February 17, 2005
Reported (Amended) by the Committee on 109-8, Part I.
February 24, 2005
Referred sequentially to the House Committee on the Judiciary for a period ending not later than Feb. 24, 2005.
February 24, 2005
Placed on the Union Calendar, Calendar No. 3.
February 24, 2005
Rules Committee Resolution H. Res. 125 Reported to House. Rule provides for consideration of H.R. 841 with 1 hour of general debate. Previous question shall be considered as ordered without intervening motions except motion to recommit with or without instructions. Measure will be considered read. Specified amendments are in order.
March 1, 2005 • 8:04 PM
Rule H. Res. 125 passed House.
March 3, 2005 • 11:13 AM
Considered under the provisions of rule H. Res. 125. (consideration: CR H953-970; text of measure as reported in House: CR H959)
March 3, 2005 • 11:14 AM
Rule provides for consideration of H.R. 841 with 1 hour of general debate. Previous question shall be considered as ordered without intervening motions except motion to recommit with or without instructions. Measure will be considered read. Specified amendments are in order.
March 3, 2005 • 11:14 AM
House resolved itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union pursuant to H. Res. 125 and Rule XVIII.
March 3, 2005 • 11:16 AM
The Speaker designated the Honorable Steven C. LaTourette to act as Chairman of the Committee.
March 3, 2005 • 11:16 AM
GENERAL DEBATE - The Committee of the Whole proceeded with 60 minutes of general debate on H.R. 841.
March 3, 2005 • 11:16 AM
DEBATE - Pursuant to the provisions of H. Res. 125, the Committee of the Whole proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the Ney amendment.
March 3, 2005 • 12:02 PM
DEBATE - Pursuant to the provisions of H. Res. 125, the Committee of the Whole proceeded with 15 minutes of debate on the Millender-McDonald amendment.
March 3, 2005 • 12:12 PM
POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS - At the conclusion of debate on the Millender-McDonald amendment, the Chair put the question on adoption of the amendment and by voice vote, announced that the noes had prevailed. Ms. Millender-McDonald demanded a recorded vote and pursuant to the rule, further proceedings on the question of adoption of the amendment were postponed until later in the legislative day.
March 3, 2005 • 12:35 PM
DEBATE - Pursuant to the provisions of H. Res. 125, the Committee of the Whole proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the Jackson-Lee (TX) amendment.
March 3, 2005 • 12:37 PM
POSTPONED PROCEEDINGS - At the conclusion of debate on the Jackson-Lee (TX) amendment, the Chair put the question on adoption of the amendment and by voice vote, announced that the noes had prevailed. Ms. Jackson-Lee (TX) demanded a recorded vote and pursuant to the rule, further proceedings on the question of adoption of the amendment were postponed until later in the legislative day.
March 3, 2005 • 12:45 PM
UNFINISHED BUSINESS - The Chair announced that the unfinished business was the question of adoption of amendments which had been debated earlier and on which further proceedings had been postponed.
March 3, 2005 • 12:46 PM
Mr. Baird moved to strike the enacting clause.
March 3, 2005 • 1:23 PM
Floor summary: DEBATE - The Committee of the Whole proceeded with 10 minutes of debate on the motion to strike the enacting clause.
March 3, 2005 • 1:23 PM
Motion to strike the enacting clause withdrawn.
March 3, 2005 • 1:29 PM
The House rose from the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union to report H.R. 841.
March 3, 2005 • 1:29 PM
The previous question was ordered pursuant to the rule.
March 3, 2005 • 1:30 PM
The House adopted the amendment in the nature of a substitute as agreed to by the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union.
March 3, 2005 • 1:30 PM
Mr. Conyers moved to recommit with instructions to House Administration. (consideration: CR H967-969)
March 3, 2005 • 1:31 PM
DEBATE - The House proceeded with ten minutes of debate on the Conyers motion to recommit with instructions. The instructions contained in the motion seek to require the bill to be reported back to the House with an amendment which adds a new paragraph with provisions for minimum required voting systems and poll workers in polling places used in special elections.
March 3, 2005 • 1:31 PM
The previous question on the motion to recommit with instructions was ordered without objection.
March 3, 2005 • 1:43 PM
On motion to recommit with instructions Failed by recorded vote: 196 - 223 (Roll no. 51).
March 3, 2005 • 2:01 PM
On passage. Passed by voice vote.
March 3, 2005 • 2:01 PM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table without objection.
March 3, 2005 • 2:02 PM
PROCEEDINGS VACATED - By unanimous consent, the proceedings by which the motion to reconsider was laid on the table were vacated and the Chair restated the question on adoption of the bill. Subsequently, Ms. Millender-McDonald demanded a recorded vote on the question of passage of the bill.
March 3, 2005 • 2:10 PM
Passed/agreed to in House: On passage Passed by recorded vote: 329 - 68 (Roll no. 52).
March 3, 2005 • 2:39 PM
On passage Passed by recorded vote: 329 - 68 (Roll no. 52).
March 3, 2005 • 2:39 PM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
March 3, 2005 • 2:39 PM
The title of the measure was amended. Agreed to without objection.
March 3, 2005 • 2:40 PM
Received in the Senate.
March 8, 2005
Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time.
March 17, 2005
Read the second time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 61.
March 19, 2005
Voting History
4 votes recorded • Roll call available
HOUSE
Roll Call AvailableMarch 3, 2005 at 2:41 PM
On Passage
Majority required: 1/2 (50%)
329 - 68
HOUSE
Roll Call AvailableMarch 3, 2005 at 2:04 PM
On Motion to Recommit with Instructions
Majority required: 1/2 (50%)
196 - 223
HOUSE
Roll Call AvailableMarch 3, 2005 at 1:25 PM
On Agreeing to the Amendment
Majority required: 1/2 (50%)
183 - 239
Floor Debate
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Floor Debate
18 membersWhat members said about H.R. 841 on the floor
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, the legislation that we are going to be considering today deals with a very, very serious issue, the possibility actually of a…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, the legislation that we are going to be considering today deals with a very, very serious issue, the possibility actually of a tragic attack that would result in the death of a significant number of our colleagues in the House. Though I think it is safe to say that none of us are eager to consider this issue, the events of September 11, 2001, forced this House to consider the ramifications of a successful terrorist attack against this body. On that fateful day, the enemies of freedom clearly targeted the pillars of our Nation. The terrorists attacked the World Trade Center which represented our economic freedom. They attacked the Pentagon which represents our military strength. And, by all accounts, Flight 93 was targeted either at the White House or at this building, both symbols of our form of democratic government and of our freedoms.
In fact, only the heroic actions, the unbelievable bravery of those brave passengers on Flight 93 prevented that particular plane, that particular flight, from reaching its intended target.
And so, Mr. Chairman, we begin to think about the unthinkable, to do our duty and to plan for every eventuality. H.R. 841, the Continuity in Representation Act, provides a very reasonable, very well thought-out mechanism for the reconstitution of the House of Representatives in the event of such a tragedy. The sponsor of the bill, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner), as well as the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier) and the
gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Ney) are to be commended for their great commitment and dedication in crafting this bill and bringing it to the floor today. The Congress must ensure that the government remains strong and stable during and following a terrorist attack, and this legislation would accomplish that goal.
Mr. Chairman, all the other branches of government already have contingency plans in place. In the case of a vacancy, the President would be replaced quickly by the existing line of succession. The courts would be replaced quickly by presidential appointment. The Senate would be reconstituted very quickly through gubernatorial appointment as is outlined in the 17th amendment. Only the House would be unable to function quickly in a time of national emergency.
The Continuity in Representation Act would correct this problem by requiring States to hold special elections to fill vacancies in the House of Representatives not later than 49 days after the vacancy is announced by the Speaker of this House in the extraordinary circumstances that vacancies in representation from the States exceed 100. Mr. Chairman, as we grapple with this issue, we must remind ourselves that the U.S. House of Representatives is the people's House. For the entirety of our national existence, Members of the House have been directly elected by the people. Article 1, section 2 of our Constitution states: ``When vacancies happen in the representation from any State, the executive authority thereof shall issue writs of elections to fill such vacancies.'' The key word here is ``elections.'' No event should be reason enough to change this historic and constitutional constant.
The bill under consideration today allows us to remain true to the course charted for us by our Founding Fathers. There have been a number of suggested alternatives to the proposal in this legislation. Some have called for perhaps temporary appointment of the Members of Congress in such an emergency either through gubernatorial appointment like that in the Senate, or even by a sitting Member naming a successor to take the seat in the event of that Member's death.
Any of these ideas would require a constitutional amendment, which would be a change from both tradition and constitutional mandate which expressly calls again for the direct election of Members of the House of Representatives. Concerns have also been expressed regarding the requirement that special elections be completed within 49 days of the Speaker's announcement of 100 existing vacancies in the House would be difficult.
Mr. Chairman, before I came to Congress actually, I was honored to serve as Michigan's Secretary of State for 8 years with a principal responsibility of serving as that State's chief election official, so this is an area that I do have some expertise in. Some have argued and will argue that more time is necessary, but I disagree.
Under this legislation, States would have the option, let me repeat, the option, of eliminating the primary election and permitting political parties recognized by State law to choose their candidates. In turn, this would eliminate the petition requirements and the verification process that accompanies it. Additionally, it is important for us to remember that the U.S. Representative position would really be the only one on the ballot which would dramatically ease printing, programming and testing.
Furthermore, Mr. Chairman, the passage of the Help America Vote Act of 2002, HAVA as we commonly call it, has helped to prepare local election officials more than ever to conduct special elections. HAVA is granting Federal dollars to the States in historic proportions, quite frankly, dollars that they are using to eliminate antiquated election equipment and purchasing new state-of-the-art equipment. States have either constructed or are moving very quickly toward construction of statewide computerized voter registration files, similar to the one that we built in Michigan several years ago. Technology actually allows for these lists to be updated daily so that a clean, up-to-date file can be printed out literally any day of the year anytime, and provided to the polling sites. Obviously this is a fantastic election tool for any election, but particularly so for an expedited election.
Also, States are now moving toward uniformity of voting systems in their precincts. Uniformity of election equipment in a State will enable vendors to always have a camera ready template of the ballot, and then all they literally have to do is fill in the names of the nominees for U.S. Representative and go to print. Having a uniform system will eliminate confusion amongst poll workers and further ease election preparation.
H.R. 841 also protects the ability of military personnel and overseas citizens to participate in a special election by requiring that absentee ballots be transmitted to such voters within 15 days of the Speaker's announcement and that such absentee ballots be counted if they are received not later than 45 days after the State transmits them.
In fact, even now the Department of Defense, the DOD, is moving towards a program where service men and women stationed overseas can actually download their ballots via the Internet.
Some will make the argument, again, that 49 days is simply not enough time for the States to prepare. To that argument, I would simply point out that some States today already have requirements that special elections be held in much less time than the 49-day period. So I believe that argument is obviously moot.
Mr. Chairman, I certainly do not intend to imply that this would be a simple task. There is no question there is lots of hard work. Regardless, it has been my observation and my personal experience that the fine men and women who administer our elections always rise to the occasion to complete the required work on time. I have no doubts that they would do so in a time of national emergency.
While I hope, Mr. Chairman, that we never have to face this situation, we must nonetheless prepare for it. Clearly it is incumbent on us to find a solution to this issue which honors the wishes and the wisdom of the Founding Fathers that the House of Representatives remain the people's House.
Mr. Chairman, it has been said that the price of freedom is remaining ever vigilant. I believe passing H.R. 841 is a step in showing the enemies of freedom that America is remaining ever vigilant. Similar legislation received over 300 votes in the last Congress, and I would, again, ask my colleagues for their strong bipartisan support of this legislation.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I have no further requests for time, and I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I continue to reserve my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, the Continuity in Representation Act provides a process to ensure that our democratic government remains stable and orderly during a possible time of great instability. In addition, it preserves the unique status of the House of Representatives by continuing the tradition and the constitutional mandate that every Member of this body must be elected by his or her constituents. In such a time of crisis, the people of this Nation must have a voice in the critical decisions that are being made. This legislation ensures that that will be the case.
The time limit of 49 days that this bill lays out is more than adequate, Mr. Chairman. In fact, a survey of election officials confirmed that this is a realistic time frame, and I will tell you as a former elections official myself, I concur with those findings.
Furthermore, several States already have laws in place that require special elections to be conducted in a shorter period of time than the 49-day limit that this legislation requires. It is a short enough period that the House is reconstituted quickly and loses none of its authority, and, at the same time, it is a long enough period for fair elections to be conducted.
When this issue was before the 108th Congress, Mr. Chairman, the House acted in an overwhelmingly bipartisan fashion and approved the Continuity in Representation Act by a more than three-to-one margin. In fact, H.R. 841 that we consider today has improved on the previous bill by addressing the following reservations that some Members of the House and some of the States had regarding that bill.
First, the special election privilege is extended now to Delegates and Resident Commissioners so that they could be replaced just as quickly as Members.
Second, the legislation explicitly gives States any method that they choose to selects the candidates for special elections. Certainly as an advocate of States' rights, this provision was extremely important to both myself and many of us here in this Chamber.
Finally, the time limit for special elections to be completed has been extended to 49 days from the time of the Speaker's announcement that over 100 vacancies exist. This gives local and State officials 7 full weeks to select candidates, to print ballots and to fully execute those special elections.
With these changes I am hopeful that the bipartisan support for this legislation will be even greater today than it has been in the past. Mr. Speaker, this is not simply a bill about elections or the best way to replace Members of Congress. Mr. Chairman, this bill is about the strength of our Nation. It is about our ability to secure the homeland, and it does that by ensuring that our democratically elected government is able to respond in the face of an urgent threat.
Homeland security is not a Republican issue. It is not a Democratic issue. This is an issue that affects every single American, Mr. Chairman; and the Congress should act in the interest of America and of democracy.
I urge all of my colleagues to join me in supporting H.R. 841, and I look forward very much to supporting and passing this important and historic legislation.
I yield back the balance of my time, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, the amendment proposed by the gentlewoman from California, while certainly a very well-intentioned amendment, is completely unnecessary and, I believe, would severely weaken this bill.
While this amendment would only increase the time limit in which to conduct the special election by 11 days, more than the limit provided for in H.R. 841, it would weaken the power of Congress in a significant way. According to the War Powers Act, when the
President has put our Armed Forces into action, Congress must act within 60 days to either approve or to disapprove the use of those troops. Following an attack in which over 100 Members of Congress have been killed, it is quite likely that a military response would be required.
If Congress is not reconstituted within this 60-day period, it would lose its ability to either affirm or disapprove of the executive's use of military actions and, thus, the power of the legislative branch would be diminished. The amendment by the gentlewoman would prevent Congress from acting in this situation. H.R. 841, as it stands, would allow for Congress to reconstitute and to act on such an important matter.
Another argument against this amendment, Mr. Chairman, is that while it is not only dangerous, again it is completely unnecessary. A survey of election officials, as I mentioned earlier, shows that 49 days is a reasonable period of time in which to conduct a special election. And as a former chief elections officer of the State of Michigan, I agree with that assessment. As the legislation currently stands, States would have the option, and let me reiterate again, the States have the option of eliminating the primary election and permitting political parties recognized by State law to choose those candidates.
In turn, this would eliminate the petition requirements, and the verification process that accompanies it. Additionally, it is again very important to remember that the U.S. Representative position would really be the only race on the ballot. Again, dramatically easy printing, programming, and testing.
Furthermore, Mr. Chairman, the passage of the Help America Vote Act of 2002, HAVA, as it is commonly called, has helped prepare election officials more than ever to conduct such a special election. HAVA is granting Federal dollars to the States in historic proportions, dollars that are being used to eliminate antiquated election equipment, and the States are purchasing new state-of-the-art equipment. States have either constructed or are moving towards construction of statewide, computerized voter registration files, similar, as I mentioned, to the one we built in Michigan several years ago.
Technology is allowing these lists to be updated literally daily, so that a clean up-to-date file can be printed out any date of the year and provided to every polling site. Again, a fantastic election tool for any election, but particularly so in this case for an expedited election.
Also, States are rapidly moving towards a uniform system of voting machines. Uniformity of election equipment in a State will enable vendors to always have a camera-ready template on the ballot, and then all they have to do is just fill in the name of the nominees for U.S. Representative and go to print. Having a uniform system will eliminate confusion amongst poll workers and further ease election preparation.
Finally, Mr. Chairman, some States already prescribe that special elections be conducted in a period of time even shorter than this. The gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner) mentioned the Virginia experience; Minnesota, I believe, requires a 30- or 35-day limit as well. All of this goes to prove that the amendment is completely unnecessary. The only thing that this amendment would effectively do is extend the time period for which some parts of the Nation would not be represented in this body, in the United States House of Representatives. And there is never a good reason to do that, Mr. Chairman.
While it is true that State and local officials must have sufficient time to conduct elections, it is imperative that they be completed as quickly as possible so that there is some semblance of continuity in representation. There should not be any unnecessary delay to this process.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner), the distinguished chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary,
who has been a driving force in bringing this legislation to the floor today.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
As I have listened to the debate, I feel more strongly than ever that this amendment would severely weaken the impact of H.R. 841. I urge my colleagues to reject the Millender-McDonald amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the motion to recommit.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The language in the motion to recommit is very similar to the language in the Help America Vote Act legislation, HAVA, as it is commonly called, that legislation being H.R. 533. In fact, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers) is not the only Member who has proposed comprehensive election reform. A number of other bills have been introduced by Members on both sides of the aisle proposing amendments to the HAVA bill.
The Committee on House Administration has scheduled hearings on these issues, including in the State of Ohio I would say, and we will be considering all of these bills in due course.
Today is not the time nor is it the place to be debating election reform issues. We are here to provide for continuity and representation of this House and the American people. So let us focus on what needs to be done to provide for expedited special elections so that we can have a functioning House as soon as possible if there is a horrible, catastrophic attack.
Let us leave these other issues for a later day when they can be debated in the proper context.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Hastert), the Speaker of the House.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time. I want to begin by congratulating him on his superb service on the Committee on Rules. This is obviously a very important issue to him. He…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me time. I want to begin by congratulating him on his superb service on the Committee on Rules.
This is obviously a very important issue to him. He joined the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner) and me, along with former Secretary of State Candice Miller and our distinguished colleagues, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Chabot), the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Paul), and the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Bartlett), in co-sponsoring this legislation.
As a former Secretary of State, the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Cole) understands how important this issue is for us to address.
I also want to express appreciation to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle. In the last Congress, while it has not happened in this Congress, I was very pleased that the distinguished ranking minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers), joined as a cosponsor of this legislation, as well as my good friend and colleague, the gentleman from California (Mr. Berman). And it is my hope that we will be able to move ahead in a bipartisan way dealing with this very, very important institutional issue.
We all remember September 11 of 2001. My judgment has often been questioned because I was the last human being to walk out of this building on September 11 of 2001, and probably correctly. I did not think anyone would attack it. And I will say that when I left the building on September 11, 2001, I did so when one of the great Capitol Hill policemen said to me that there was a plane headed towards this building, and we all know now that that is the plane that went down with those very courageous passengers in Pennsylvania.
When we think back on September 11th, obviously it was one of the darkest days in the history of our republic, and it has led us to spend a great deal of time thinking about the unthinkable. Because of September 11th, we have had to ponder things that we would never even possibly consider because of the fact that we had not seen that kind of attack on U.S. soil. But since that time, the Speaker of the House has really stepped up to the plate and done a wide range of things that are designed to ensure that the people's House and, in fact, we hope both Houses of Congress, are able to continue to function.
If you recall on September 11th, late that afternoon, when Members of both Houses of Congress, both political parties, stood on the east front of the Capitol singing God Bless America. The reason that Members stood on the east front of the Capitol was to let the American people and to let anyone know who would want to do us in, that we, as a Nation, are strong, and this institution, the greatest deliberative body known to man, was continuing to function.
So beginning almost immediately after the attacks of September 11th, the Speaker took a number of steps that were designed to maintain the continuity of this great institution. He established the ability to adjourn to an alternative place and to declare an emergency recess. He established the ability to effect a joint leadership recall from a period of adjournment through designees, and the requirement that the Speaker submit to the
Clerk of the House a list of designees to act in the case of a vacancy in the Office of the Speaker. And, Mr. Speaker, we all know that at the beginning of this 109th Congress, we included in our opening day rules package the provisions that allow the House to establish a quorum, which could be lowered if we go through a litany of roll call votes that would determine that many Members had been incapacitated and could not actually show up to work here.
I think it is important to note that we provided a number of protections in the use of that rule, including several that have been suggested by the Members of the other side of the aisle. And I have to add, Mr. Speaker, that the Speaker of the House and the minority leader, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), have personally engaged and spent time talking about this very important issue. And it is my hope that we will, at the end of the day, end up with, as I said, a bipartisan compromise.
Some of those recommendations that came from Members of the minority on this issue: Extended roll calls lasting days at a time and excluding any time in recess so that Members can contact the House and let us know that they can come to vote. The availability of the motion to adjourn at any time. The nonpartisan advice of the Sergeant at Arms, the Capitol physician, and the medical and emergency personnel about the state of the membership of this body. And, Mr. Speaker, at the recommendation of the minority, consultation with the minority leader, in accordance with the traditional relationship between the Speaker and the minority leader.
And, finally, it is very important for us to remember that, as I just alluded to, that we have a bicameral legislature. The United States House of Representatives does not operate unilaterally, so there will always be a check on any action taken under the mass incapacitation quorum provision.
What I have been discussing, Mr. Speaker, answers how we will do the people's work if a terrorist attack incapacitates large numbers of us. Now, the Continuity in Representation Act of 2005, which we are considering here today, deals with how we will replenish the House if terrorists kill large numbers of our Members. This legislation calls for special elections to be held within 45 days following such a catastrophe.
The gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings) has just alluded to something, and while I know we do not enjoy the strong support of the minority on this, we have made a step in that we are going to have a manager's amendment made in order that would allow us to move in the direction of what it is that the minority wants, and that is allowing for 49 days, which would be a full 7 weeks.
Let me say that this legislation addresses a number of very important matters and it incorporates a number of suggestions made, again by Members on the other side of the aisle. They include more than doubling the amount of time for the special elections to occur from 21 days to 45 days. And again we are going even further, to a full 7 weeks.
Protecting overseas military and absentee voters so that they receive additional time in which to return ballots. And I want to thank, particularly, the distinguished ranking minority member of the Committee on Armed Services, the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton), for his fine work in that area and his commitment to ensure that we address the issue of military and overseas voters.
Protecting civil and voter rights. You will recall when we considered this legislation, which at the end of the day drew large bipartisan support in the 108th Congress, we were able to address the concerns that were raised by the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Watt) at the end of the day when we were debating the legislation, and that is included in this. Again, that is a recommendation that came from the minority.
We allow States to have primaries and other options for selection of candidates for the special election so long as the general elections are completed within that period of time, which would be 49 days, excluding districts from the 49-day special election requirement if they already have either a general or special election scheduled, and including the four delegates and the resident commissioner of Puerto Rico within the provisions of the bill.
Now, I mentioned the large bipartisan support. Last year, this legislation passed the House by a vote of 306 to 97. I believe that we need to continue working in a strong bipartisan manner to move this bill through the House and get it to the other body just as expeditiously as possible. In that spirit, I anticipate that we will amend the rule, as I said, to move under this manager's amendment from 45 to 49 days. Again, our attempt to continue to work and address very, very correct concerns that are emerging from the minority.
I also have to say that on this rule itself we are very happy to have made in order the amendment of my colleague and neighbor, the very distinguished gentlewoman from California (Ms. Millender-McDonald), who has offered an amendment calling for 60 days. I also want to congratulate her, Mr. Speaker, on her new assignment as the ranking minority member of the Committee on Administration. She is working closely with the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Ney) I know, and with the gentlewoman from Michigan (Mrs. Miller), who is going to be managing this legislation, and so we look forward to seeing what I hope is, again, a good bipartisan work product.
I want to talk now, if I can, Mr. Speaker, about how this bill protects what I feel is a very, very key part of our responsibility here: Our representation. When I was an undergraduate at Claremont McKenna College, I had a professor who pounded the Federalist Papers into me. I remember my mentor and the importance of the Constitutional Convention, and the great Connecticut Compromise of July 16 of 1787. And I remember that date because we convened the Congress in Philadelphia to mark the bicentennial of the Connecticut Compromise back on July 16 of 1987.
Of course, the Federalists have been so important in explaining and justifying the actions of the framers as they put the Constitution together. We all know that James Madison was the Father of our Constitution, as well as having been President of the United States, he, as a matter of fact, was a member of the first Committee on Rules. And a relative of mine served on that Committee on Rules at the founding.
Madison wrote extensively about this institution, the House of Representatives in Federalists 52 through 57. And one of the things I believe is very important for us to note is that Madison talked about the absolutely critical importance of this institution being elected.
Now, Mr. Speaker, we all know that the 435 of us who serve as Members of the House of Representatives are the only Federal officials who must be elected before we can serve. In the other body, the United States Senate, people are appointed by their governors if vacancies take place. And we all know from the example of President Ford, one can be appointed to serve as Vice President and President of the United States without having been elected. But no one has ever served in the people's House, this body, without having first been elected. And I think it is important to note that Madison made it clear when he was talking especially about this institution, as he said in Federalist No. 53, ``where elections end, tyranny begins.''
Mr. Speaker, as I said, we are the only Federal office where no one has served here without having first been elected, and I think that is something we need to do everything we can to maintain.
In Federalist 52 Madison wrote: ``It is essential to liberty that the government in general should have a common interest with the people, so it is particularly essential that the branch of it under consideration should have an immediate dependence on and an intimate sympathy with the people. Frequent elections are unquestionably the only policy by which this dependence and sympathy can be effectively secured.''
He went on in Federalist 57 and wrote: ``Who are to be the electors of the Federal representatives? Not the rich more than the poor, not the learned more than the ignorant, not the haughty heirs of distinguished names more than the humble sons of
obscurity and unpropitious fortune. The electors are to be the great body of the people of the United States.''
And, Mr. Speaker, Madison rejected the idea that appointment of Members is acceptable to the American public. He said, and I quote: ``The right of suffrage is certainly one of the fundamental articles of democratic government and ought not be regulated by the legislature. A gradual abridgement of this right has been the mode in which aristocracies have been built on the ruin of popular forms.''
I think it is very important for us to understand that there have been times in our Nation's history where we have faced greater difficulty than the difficulty that we face today, or even greater difficulty than we faced following September 11 of 2001, and that was the Civil War. If we think back to that time of the Civil War, we have to remember that this Capitol was surrounded by troops who were threatening the very being of our Republic. Yet President Lincoln proceeded with elections, understanding how critically important they are for our Republic's survival.
And, of course, we have the newest example of self-determination in the world. The brave people of Iraq recently tasted freedom and the joy of elections. What happened? We had many people saying those elections could not take place. Why? Because there was a great deal of tension. We saw terrorist attacks, and we continue to see that in Iraq. But we know that despite the bombs and the snipers and the fear of death, people exercised that very important right to self-determination. Having faced down aristocracy and tyranny, they knew just how important elections would be for them. We too are a democracy borne out of facing down aristocracy and tyranny ourselves, and we should never forget that for one moment.
Mr. Speaker, I am convinced that as we look at the struggles taking place in Iraq today, that building and reinforcing democratic institutions is crucial for the safety, security, and happiness of a nation's people, whether it is the people of Iraq or the people of the United States of America. That is why when we looked at some of the other options to provide for our continuity as an institution, such as the stand-in appointments provision that the House overwhelmingly defeated last year, we should ask what we lose if we, for one moment, give up on elections.
Some have said that this is different; that we will be dealing with a national emergency. And I say that elections are particularly important during a time of a national emergency. We should not have stand-ins or successors from a list in our back pockets passing laws, declaring war, or suspending habeas corpus. I believe that when we take this very, very unique institution, the people's House, where no one has served without having first been elected, and move away from elections, that we threaten the very basis of our strength as a democratic Nation.
Thus as we look at the very tough challenge of how to preserve our democracy in the face of catastrophe, this legislation is the most responsible way to continue the legitimacy of our government. If we look at the tragic loss of more than 100 Members, the idea of having the States hold special elections in that period of time is something that is doable. People will unite and will remove all obstacles in conducting elections.
Think about it, Mr. Speaker. In the time of a horrible tragedy, feeding and clothing one's family, making sure the roof is over their head, and then playing a role in picking one's leaders, that is all part of the process of rebuilding. And it can be done in a relatively short period of time.
My colleague (Ms. Millender-McDonald) and I represent the State of California. A year and a half ago in our home State, we went through a special election--recently, going through an unprecedented situation. We had the recall of a Governor and an election that took place in 55 days. It was not a single congressional district of 650,000 people with two or three candidates. That race had 135 candidates on the ballot, and they were running among a populace of 35 million people. And I am happy to say that that election came off without a hitch. And I should parenthetically say I am happy with the outcome as well, Mr. Speaker.
Let me close by saying that I think it is very important for us to realize again what James Madison was telling us when he said ``When elections end, tyranny begins.'' We should do everything we possibly can to make sure that we keep this House's very, very precious election process.
This rule allows for consideration of measures that address that. It is a very fair rule that again gives the ranking minority member an opportunity to have her proposal considered. I do oppose that proposal because I believe that the notion of moving to 49 days will allow us to work this out very well. And I again thank my colleagues, the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Ney) and the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner) and others, who have worked long and hard on this.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. First, let me congratulate the gentlewoman from Michigan in joining our committee, the Committee on House Administration. She is quite an…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
First, let me congratulate the gentlewoman from Michigan in joining our committee, the Committee on House Administration. She is quite an addition to the committee and we congratulate her.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to H.R. 841 in its current form. While the bill number has changed since last year, the core problems in this legislation remain the same as in last year's bill, H.R. 2844. H.R. 841 is unworkable, unfair and undemocratic. It restricts the franchise and inhibits public participation in the expedited special elections it would create, an especially unfortunate development following so closely after the serious problems revealed in the aftermath of the 2004 elections.
This bill is part of a series of actions by the majority over the last 2 years as advertised in addressing problems of congressional continuity. The stated objective of the legislation is to override State laws in order to hold expedited special elections within 45 days of a catastrophe which may leave more than 100 vacancies in the Chamber. While this goal is laudable, the bill defines a problem, creates an unfunded mandate, but then provides no solution. This legislation dumps the problem onto the States to produce something called an ``election'' within 45 days, but without the political and democratic substance we associate with campaigns for the House of Representatives.
I want to stress that H.R. 841 has no partisan content. It is simply inadequate to the task of reconstituting the House in a truly democratic fashion. Members on our side of the aisle were split almost down the middle last
April in the vote on this legislation because they felt pressured to do something. But the majority voted for it virtually lockstep when not even its principal sponsors could explain how the bill was actually supposed to work. The Senate, not surprisingly, never acted on it. So here we go again.
H.R. 841 contains a wish list of provisions which would set impractical deadlines, ignore the rights of candidates to run and of voters to participate in elections, and create confusion in the aftermath of a national catastrophe when the country needs the stability of established constitutional processes and the legitimacy of the rule of law.
Let us look at some of the specifics of this bill. Among the principal flaws of this legislation are the time frame is much too short for the conducting of special elections in many States. Even States whose present laws contemplate 45 days may not cope in the aftermath of an unknown future crisis which could affect our infrastructure and communications systems nationwide. The House last year rejected a proposal for 75 days in which to conduct these elections. This year, I will offer a compromise amendment proposing 60 days, which is not a magic solution, either, but which at least provides valuable additional flexibility to the States.
The bill represents an unfunded mandate. While States could conduct special elections to fill vacancies even without this bill, it eliminates their flexibility in the scheduling of elections, in the format of the elections and in the costs of elections.
There is insufficient time for voter registration for those wishing to participate in an unscheduled, sudden election for the House. New voters would be blocked out of the system. Why should we prevent full public participation when a Congress, seeking to renew itself, needs the legitimacy which an open democratic system provides?
The bill provides no mechanism for candidates to qualify for the ballot in States which require petition gathering or other potentially time-consuming measures intended to assess the public support and credibility of potential candidates. States are expected to develop some faster method to accomplish these central goals of qualifying candidates to run very early before the bill's trigger is pulled or risk missing the deadline. So which should it be?
This bill assumes that there are instant candidates out there who, upon learning of a vacancy, will decide to run without full consultation with family and friends, or with their potential parties and relevant interest groups and who can instantly arrange financing and instantly have an infrastructure in place to negotiate the campaign finance laws. These steps are extraordinarily difficult even in normal circumstances. Are candidates who can make instant decisions to run and instantly finance their campaigns representative of the full range of political talent of America? More importantly, are they the people we want to give a head start in gaining seats in the House? I do not think we want that, Mr. Chairman.
This bill also allows insufficient time to conduct primary elections in the many States which allow them for special elections. Last year's bill originally banned primaries entirely, but the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Ney) improved this bill during our committee markup by removing the prohibition on primaries. Nevertheless, the 45-day scheme would still effectively block them in many States.
This bill still allows insufficient time to send, receive and count absentee ballots, even in those States which will not use primaries. Those most likely to face exclusion include Americans abroad and our military personnel stationed and fighting overseas.
Mr. Chairman, this bill contains no mechanism to activate its own provisions in the event the entire House membership is wiped out. If so, what happens next?
H.R. 841 deals with a practical catastrophe and a partial one, but becomes useless in the event of a total catastrophe. It was suggested on the House floor last year that in the circumstances that the entire House was wiped out, it would be up to the people to come together and make the determination as to the rebuilding process and how it begins. Really? Then how? Is it not the responsibility of Congress to anticipate and find solutions to problems when it enacts laws and not to rely on some vague national town meeting if the bill fails to work? Should we not be settling this issue right now right here in the legislation before us?
The 45-day provision in the bill allows insufficient time to assemble the infrastructure of elections necessary to manage elections competently and fairly. Even in elections, under the best of circumstances, there are inevitably problems with voter registration lists, voting with provisional ballots, transmitting, receiving, and counting absentee ballots, reserving polling places and staffing the polls with voting machines and election workers.
After a catastrophe we can add a potential breakdown in communication systems and other infrastructure, including transportation, along with the potential inability to order voting machines and ballots. Forty- five days is simply not enough time in many States to conduct special elections, especially after a national catastrophe.
Mr. Chairman, this bill represents the wrong choices of values in a democracy. It creates an artificial election timetable aimed at simply creating a result, and that is just Members of the House. The American people deserve real choices, emergency or not.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 30 seconds.
To respond to the gentleman's comments about California, it does show that we do need beyond 45 days to hold a special election, such as in the case of our late friend, Representative Bob Matsui. And also I refer to the committees that were convened to preserve our institution, and it aligns many States where the vacancy days for holding elections were not fewer than 74 days. So those are the number of days that are important that we need to adhere to.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Zoe Lofgren).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, this bill is not a bill that will work. You have heard it from several Members. This bill is unfair and is undemocratic. It has also been shown it is too short a time to conduct special elections in many States. It is insufficient time for voter registration and for those who want to participate in this unscheduled election. New voters will be blocked out of the system entirely. Is this what we want, given the last election of 2004? I think not.
This bill simply represents the wrong choices of values in a democracy. This bill should be voted down.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment in lieu of amendment No. 1.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 5 minutes.
Mr. Chairman, this compromise amendment would change the overall deadline to conduct expedited special elections under extraordinary circumstances to 60 days instead of the 49 which we just voted on.
I urge Members to support 60 days because it is a more practical and realistic deadline, places less burden on the States, and still accomplishes the bill's goals to expedite special elections in a large number of States.
A 60-day deadline would allow more time for States to attempt to implement the election law restructuring, whatever that might be, and require to comply with the bill's goals.
It would also allow some States more options if they wish to preserve their primary elections which at the insistence of the minority are no longer explicitly prohibited by this version of the legislation. But while primaries may no longer be barred, 49 days to hold both a primary and a special election is still a high bar to meet.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to read from a letter that was presented by Kevin Kennedy, the executive director to the State Elections Board of Wisconsin, the State which the author of the bill comes from. And he states in portions of the letter: ``62 days is the minimum time necessary to ensure proper mechanical operation of an expedited special election, consistent with democratic integrity, and offering of all voters the opportunity of a meaningful opportunity to vote.''
This is what I am speaking about in my amendment. The principle 49 days is really not enough time; and so, therefore, the bill is really flawed because it decrees that the elections will occur 49 days after the Speaker's announcement. But having said that, what would happen next?
How States which would have to reduce their preexisting time frame for special elections could actually accomplish this is the great unknown. Would it require States' enactments, States' constitutional amendments, popular referenda in some States?
I do not know the answers and the bill's sponsors surely do not know the answers. But 60 days at least provides some additional flexibility in the hands of the decision-makers who must grapple with the jig-saw puzzle of demands the bill places upon them. Sixty days is not a magic bullet any more than 49 days is; but experience as well as decades spent as candidates running for public office teaches us to err on the side of flexibility, especially at a time of potential national crisis.
This amendment is an effort to find common ground after the House rejected a 75-day time frame offered last year by the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. Larson). My 60-day amendment also conforms to the recommendations of the Election Center, which represents the Nation's voting registration and election officials and administrators at the city, township, county and State levels. Proponents seeking a truncated time frame for this legislation have often, misleadingly, cited Doug Williams, Executive Director of the Election Center, which, once again, represents the Nation's voting registration and election officials and administrators at the city, township, and State levels, but he has not endorsed this bill, and he has said that 45 days is still too short and that a time frame closer to 60 days would provide States a greater assurance of success. State and local election officials at election process forums over the last 2 years have raised questions about the time frame as well.
In testimony prepared before the Committee on House Administration on September 19, 2003, Mr. Lewis framed the debate as follows: ``What is an election? Is it a date-certain event so that voters can vote? Or is it more than that? Is an election in American democracy really a process that includes time for the identification of candidates, the ability of candidates to mount a campaign, to raise funds, to attract supporters, to inform the voters of what their choices are between the individual contestants, and then going to the polls to make that choice? The point is this: If it is only an event, then we can structure an event in a short time frame and carry out the event as flawlessly as possible. If, however, you define it in the broadest possible terms, then you have to allow the process time to work.''
Mr. Chairman, I agree that elections are a process which implement democracy.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Rhode Island (Mr. Langevin), a former Secretary of State.
(Mr. LANGEVIN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, how much time do I have remaining?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Brown), who is also a former Secretary of State.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
In this book we have, the first ``Report of the Continuity of Government Commission,'' in that it outlined an election in Michigan, Michigan's Third Congressional District where the vacancy occurred in 1993, and the time that was allotted for that election was 178 days, which brought us the distinguished gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Ehlers) who is part of our committee.
Mr. Chairman, in returning to the testimony of Mr. Doug Lewis, executive director of Election Center, after polling election officials from around the country, he summarized the results: ``While the responses indicated a variety of dates ranging from the shortest time period of 35 days after determination of who the candidates will be to a period of 4 months, it appears that election administrators feel that they can conduct an election with as few as 45 days. However, the election officials would be far more confident
that the interest of democracy would be best served by having up to 60 days to get the elections organized and held. Each additional day beyond the 45 day minimum time frame creates greater confidence in the process.''
Mr. Chairman, I prefer to come down on the side of the interest of democracy, and my instincts after campaigns for local, State, and Federal office tell me 49 days is simply too short.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of the Jackson-Lee amendment. A portion of the gentlewoman's amendment seeks to provide an expedited appeals process to the United States District Court for matters arising out of the special election process. We have been talking about this 44, 45, 49-day deadline for special State elections, and it already places significant constraints on the electoral process and on the citizens represented due to its brevity.
Taking away the right of an appeal to United States District Court would excessively curtail the procedural due process rights enjoyed by citizens. I support the gentlewoman's amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of H.R. 841, the Continuity of Representation Act of 2005. On September 11, 2001, the fourth hijacked plane…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of H.R. 841, the Continuity of Representation Act of 2005.
On September 11, 2001, the fourth hijacked plane was headed toward the Nation's capital. Had it not been for the heroic actions of the passengers of United Flight 93 who forced the plane down over Pennsylvania, Congress's ability to serve the American people may have been severely disrupted.
Currently, there is no mechanism to quickly replace House Members by special election. During the last Congress, the House acted in an overwhelmingly bipartisan fashion to address this deficiency by passing the predecessor of this year's bill by a larger than three to one margin. Unfortunately, the bill was never brought up in the other body because of the objections of one or more anonymous Members of that Chamber. Consequently, the guarantee of the right to elected representation following a catastrophic incident has yet been unnecessarily imperiled.
The legislation before us again today will preserve the people's constitutional right to directly elected representation by providing for the expedited special election of new Members within 49 days of the Speaker's announcement that there are more than 100 House vacancies. The House, unique among all branches and bodies of the entire Federal Government, is rooted in the principle of direct elections, and that principle must be preserved. Current Federal law allows the Presidency and the Senate to consist of entirely the unelected in certain circumstances. Without an elected House, the entire Federal Government could be run and laws could be written without a single branch directly representing the popular will.
Congress has the clear authority to enact the Continuity in Representation Act under article I, section 4 of the Constitution, which allows Congress, at any time by law, to make or alter State election laws. Consistent with the right to chosen representation, the Founders explicitly considered Congress's power to require expedited special elections as the solution to potential discontinuity in government in extraordinary situations. As Alexander Hamilton wrote, the Constitution gives the Congress ``a right to interpose'' its special election rules on the States ``whenever extraordinary circumstances might render that interposition necessary to its safety.'' The Supreme Court has unanimously approved such clear congressional authority.
Members from both parties have a significant stake in the operation of
the House following a terrorist incident, and I am pleased that the legislation before us today is appropriately a product of bipartisan cooperation and input. For example, I worked with the gentleman from Missouri (Mr. Skelton), ranking member of the Committee on Armed Services, to craft provisions that govern absentee ballots cast by members of the Armed Forces, and overseas voters, whose ballots would be counted if they are received within 45 days after the State transmits them.
Further, I have worked with the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers), ranking member of the Committee on the Judiciary, to add a provision that all Federal laws governing the administration of elections for Federal office are explicitly preserved.
During the Committee on House Administration's markup of the bill, a substitute amendment offered by the gentleman from Ohio (Chairman Ney) was adopted, which includes further changes that directly respond to concerns expressed by the minority. First, the current bill continues to allow States the option of having special election candidates selected by parties within 10 days, but would also authorize the States to select such candidates by any other method including primaries provided such method will ensure the State will hold the special election within the 45-day period.
Second, the bill considered today includes a provision that will allow seats left vacant by delegates and resident commissioners to also be filled by special election pursuant to the bill's requirements.
While some take the pessimistic view of the resiliency of the electoral process following an attack on the Nation's capital, I have a different view. I have no doubt that the boundless spirit of the American people will ensure that democracy prevails even in the most pressing conditions.
What I have heard from the opponents of this bill is that they say, well, we cannot have an election put together so quickly. The gentlewoman from Michigan (Mrs. Miller), I think, has made it quite clear that from her experience as Michigan's Secretary of State and chief election officer that we will be able to do that. And I point out that what this bill does is to ensure the prompt filling of vacant seats in States that have long special election processes.
Virginia is able to fill vacancies in its general assembly by special election within 12 days after the vacancy occurs provided the Governor calls a special election. If Virginia makes that apply to vacancies in the House of Representatives, we are going to have a full Virginia delegation sitting in this Chamber or elsewhere legislating while the States that decide that they want to have more debates and keep the seats vacant will end up sitting unrepresented here.
What this bill does is that it speeds up the process in the slow States, the ones that have lengthy special election processes, including the gentlewoman from California's own State.
The one seat in the House of Representatives that is vacant today is that occupied by our beloved colleague, the late Bob Matsui. He died on January 1. That was 63 days ago, and his seat is still unfilled. There is an election next week to fill the vacancy. But if no candidate in that election gets more than 50 percent of the vote, then we will wait until May 3 to find out who the new Representative from Sacramento, California is.
And what this bill will do is to make sure that California will have a full delegation as quickly as possible, notwithstanding the current State law, while other States fill their delegations up and those Representatives-elect will come to Congress and be seated and be functioning immediately after their election.
Let us make sure that every State as quickly as possible can have adequate representation. Let us pass this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, the primary opposition to this legislation comes from people who have favored a constitutional amendment to provide for the appointment of substitute Representatives should there be a catastrophe that wipes out a significant part or all of the House of Representatives.
I believe last year, the House of Representatives laid that proposition to rest. We did have a full debate on the floor of the constitutional amendment that both the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) and the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) supported. It only got 63 votes. Twenty votes are necessary for the two-thirds majority necessary to propose amendments to the Constitution on any subject, and I believe that the House of Representatives at that time clearly and emphatically spoke in favor of maintaining elections as the only way one could enter the House of Representatives, the people's House.
So now we hear that the 49 days that are proposed in this bill are too short to be able to organize a proper election in a time of crisis. I do not think that is correct. During the Second World War, Great Britain was under attack constantly by the German Air Force, and even during the war they were able to hold special elections to fill vacancies in the House of Commons within 42 days. Democracy prevailed because the people of Great Britain insisted that it do so, and those elections worked and those people who were elected entered the House of Commons with a mandate from the people.
This bill will work just as well in a time of crisis as a way of repopulating the House. We are not going to have appointed Representatives. The constitutional amendment has been overwhelmingly rejected here. So the responsible thing to do is to speed up the special election process, particularly in those States like California where it takes forever to fill a vacancy so that the States can have full representation as quickly as possible.
Pass the bill.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to make three points.
First, under the 60-day time frame proposed by the gentlewoman's amendment, the time under the War Powers Act for Congress to make a decision following an attack will have expired and, consequently, less than the full House will make the important decisions relative to under what circumstances American troops will be committed overseas. Under the 49-day time limit, that problem will not exist because the House will be reconstituted and repopulated before the War Powers Act limitation expires.
Secondly, the purpose of this bill is to require special elections to be held in those States with slower special election processes, to be held as quickly as possible within the 49-day period. The gentlewoman from California has read parts of the letter that Mr. Kennedy, who is the Executive Director of the Wisconsin Elections Board has written. I would respond to that simply by saying if Virginia repopulates the House, or its delegation to the House within 12 days and it takes at least 62 days for Wisconsin to do so, 50 days will elapse, or almost 2 months will elapse while Wisconsin has either a reduced or no delegation in the House, but the House keeps on legislating. And that is not fair to the people of my State, and it is not fair to the people of the other States, including the gentlewoman from California's own State that have relatively slow special election procedures.
So that is why this bill is here, is to speed up the process by which States can fill up their delegations to the House so that they will be fully represented when important decisions are made. And should this bill go down and the slow States continue to be really slow, then their delegations will either be nonexistent or have a relatively few number of Members.
Now, the final point I would like to make is that we have heard everybody who is against this bill say that this is too fast and too slow. Well, to speed up the process of repopulating the House, quicker than when special elections can be held, will require a constitutional amendment. We did debate a constitutional amendment and it was defeated by a vote of 63 ayes to 350-plus noes. This House is firmly on record against an appointment procedure however it is done.
So now we have to figure out how to make the special election procedure occur as quickly as possible and yet maintain fairness. The 49 days required under this bill is the way to do it to get people here to make important decisions under the War Powers Act. Sixty days or a longer period of time simply will not cut it. Defeat the amendment and pass the bill.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentlewoman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gentlewoman yielding.
The membership has been preparing for the debate on this bill with the amendment made in order under the rule. The gentlewoman now wants to submit a new amendment. I do not think that is fair to the membership who have prepared debate on the bill; so the answer is no.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I urge the committee to defeat this amendment, just as it did last year when the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee) brought it up. The issue is very simple. We want elections. Her amendment wants lawsuits. The way she has phrased her amendment for the lawsuits is that anybody can sue, not just the Governor, to determine whether or not a vacancy actually exists. And also, there is an appeals process in the gentlewoman's amendment that would allow the appeals to be dragged out indefinitely.
When there is a catastrophe that wipes out a significant number of Members of the House, it is in the interest of the public to fill those vacancies as quickly as possible through a fair election. We should not allow anybody to tie up an election call in the courts forever and ever and ever simply because their candidate might not be in a proper position to win the election.
So let us have the people decide when these vacancies will be filled and who will fill them. Let us not allow endless litigation at a time of national catastrophe. Elections can bring people together. They will result in new Representatives coming with mandates rather than having the frustration of lawsuits that go on interminably.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, the fatal flaw in this amendment is it does not extend the 49 days under which the election is required to be held under the provisions of this bill.
So the more time we spend in court, the less time the election officials have to be able to organize the election, print the ballots, mail the ballots to absentee voters at home and overseas and get them back in time to be counted.
We have heard an awful lot saying, well, the time frame is just too compact in order to run a fair election. What the gentlewoman's amendment does is that it makes it more compact because every day and every week that is spent tied up in the courts is going to be that much less time for the election machinery to operate.
This is a question very simply of lawsuits versus elections. If you want more lawsuits, vote yes. If you want a quicker and fairer election, vote no. I urge a ``no'' vote.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I thank my distinguished colleague, and I appreciate his leadership on this issue. The gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) spoke eloquently about the need for the Rohrabacher/…
Mr. Chairman, I thank my distinguished colleague, and I appreciate his leadership on this issue. The gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) spoke eloquently about the need for the Rohrabacher/ Baird amendment; and I would like to address it briefly, if I may.
Madison is quoted on this topic, but let me quote Madison from Federalist 47. He said: ``The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elected, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.''
Now, I would like, if I may, to ask my colleagues, before we pass this appropriations bill with legislative language in it alleging to maintain continuity, to maybe address a couple of questions, before my colleagues vote on this, and I will yield time. Not for a filibuster, but just to address some questions.
How will we, given Madison's concern, maintain checks and balances during the 49-day period until we have the special elections? I would be happy to yield 30 seconds to anyone who plans to vote for this bill to address that question.
I yield to the gentleman from Illinois.
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, the fact is this Congress took a number of very important actions, as the distinguished gentleman from Illinois knows, during that same time period. Let me ask this: If what the gentleman is saying is that we are not going to do anything, the executive branch has all the control, then how do we not just define Madison's very definition of tyranny? And if that is the case, are we not with this bill promoting tyranny in this country?
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, I would beg to differ, and the gentleman, I think, is inaccurate historically.
Mr. Chairman, I do not have it on the top of my head, my friend; but I can say that it is much faster than 7 weeks. I would assert, furthermore, that if the gentleman's assertion is that we do not need the United States Congress post a catastrophic attack, I think you are making a mistake and doing a disservice. If that is what you are voting for, then let us be honest with the American public, as apparently the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary has been.
We are voting with this bill to allow martial law, and I think that is a grave mistake.
Let me continue, if I may, and ask a few other questions. How many millions of Americans are you willing to leave without representation as article I, section 8 responsibility such as declarations of war, appropriations of funds, et cetera, are made? How many millions of Americans is the gentleman willing to leave without representation?
Okay. So we do not have that answer.
Let me ask this question: under the bill, the section that is proposed, I have yet to figure out what happens to this body.
Mr. Chairman, I would suggest that with these questions remaining, we should not be passing this legislation in the manner in which we are. We need a full and open and extensive debate on this.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I want to revisit this issue, and I want to clarify a couple of things. The opponents of a real continuity solution have asserted that the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) and I would take away the right to election. Nothing could be further from the truth. We believe we need real elections, not hasty elections, not elections in which the candidates are chosen by the party, but elections in which there is time for deliberation, elections in which there is time for overseas people to vote, elections in which we can have real candidates, real debate, real primaries, et cetera.
So we all agree that we should have real elections; that is the ideal. But the question is, should we have a Congress in the interim?
I have heard the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary point out that in the days post-9/11 it was an elected Congress, not an appointed Congress, that made decisions. He is absolutely right, because we had a Congress. My colleague from Illinois will recall that, in fact, the PATRIOT Act was passed during that 7-week interregnum; and interregnum may be the proper word because if we do not have a Congress, we would have effectively a monarchy or an appointed administration.
Let me raise a couple of other points. Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution, as we all know, details a host of functions of this Congress. I have yet to hear how those functions get carried out during this 7-week period, save for the apparent explanations that the Congress does not have anything to do, and the Constitution Subcommittee chair's explanation that we will have marshal law.
I for one did not run for this seat to bequeath marshal law as our legacy if we are eliminated by terrorists. People on the other side of this argument have said, oh, if we have anything but a direct election, the terrorists have won. I personally consider marshal law a substantial victory for the terrorists, a substantial victory.
Far preferable would be some mechanism in which the terrorists and the rest of the world could see the Congress of the United States reconvening with legitimacy and with distinguished statesmen from both sides of the aisle to conduct the people's business until such time as we had really elections.
It has been argued that we need to do this statutory fix because constitutional amendments take time. Yes, they do. But the Constitution did not say if it is going to take you too long to amend the Constitution, do it by House rule.
At the start of this Congress, the first order of business was to pass the House rules. The second order of business was to pass a rule that was unconstitutional. Sorry. The first order of business was to swear an oath to uphold the Constitution. The second order was to pass a rule that was patently unconstitutional. By that I mean we passed a rule that essentially says a quorum can be one or two people. The first order of business of the first Congress of the United States was to adjourn for lack of a quorum.
Now, the distinguished gentlemen from California (Mr. Dreier) likes to quote Madison. So do I. Madison was present in that first Congress. He was a Member.
He supported movements to adjourn because they lacked a quorum. And yet this body says, well, gee, you know, it takes too long to amend the Constitution, so let us do things unconstitutionally at a time of national crisis.
This is not the way to go about it. The gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston) was right. The gentleman earlier spent some time talking about horse manure. I think we need to spend more time on constitutional issues than we spend on horse manure, but we have not. In this Congress we have spent so much time debating so many things of much less importance, and it is fair enough to say that my amendment did not pass. I respect that. That is what this process is about.
But, here is what you have not said, that myself and the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) put forward a rules proposal that would have allowed multiple solutions to this to be debated. Multiple amendments. We could have had a serious and open and extensive debate. I have to tell you, when I talk to my colleagues and I ask them these questions, how many constituents are you willing to leave, how many millions of Americans with no representation at all, no representation, during a time of national crisis; how willing are you to have a Cabinet member serve as President, with no checks and balances, Secretary of Agriculture, Health and Human Services. Most Americans do not even know these folks.
If you are so concerned about elected representation, are you not equally concerned about an unelected President with no checks and balances? I certainly am.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of the time.
Mr. Chairman, it is a perverse reasoning that suggests that having no representation here at all somehow provides you better representation than to have someone appointed by the person you last elected.
You are trying to say that we do not have a Democratic Republic if the elected representatives from other States can have a vote equal to someone from your State. I believe the best way to have a Republic is to have representation from all of the constituents.
If that means temporary appointments, so be it. Finally, we have heard so many times one distinguished scholar quoted, and he is indeed a distinguished scholar. But let me point out to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier) as he well knows, the bipartisan 9/11 Commission, which included Newt Gingrich, Tom Foley, Alan Simpson, Lloyd Cutler, a host of other scholars, has rejected essentially the proposal by the distinguished gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner), and has concluded with great reluctance that we do indeed need a mechanism to amend the Constitution so that whatever mechanism is arrived at is constitutionally valid.
I would weigh the weight of their testimony and their objectivity and their bipartisanship against one single individual that you continually quote.
Major Votes in the U.S. House of Representatives, September 11-October
26, 2001
September 13, 2001. H.R. 2884, Victims of Terrorism Relief
Act of 2001. The bill exempted individuals killed in the 9/11
terrorist attacks, or who die as a result of injuries
suffered in those attacks, from paying federal income tax in
the year of their death.
September 13, 2001. H.R. 2882, Expedite Public Safety
Office Benefits. This bill directed the Justice Department to
expedite the benefit payment process for the public safety
officers (and their families) that were killed or suffered
catastrophic injuries sustained in the line of duty in
connection with the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11.
September 14, 2001. H.R. 2888, 2001 Emergency Supplemental
Appropriations Act for Recovery from and Response to
Terrorist Attacks on the United States. The bill appropriated
$40 billion in emergency funds to pay for the costs of
recovery from the 9/11 terrorist attacks and to counter,
investigate and prosecute terrorist activities.
September 14, 2001. H.J. RES. 64, Authorization of Force.
The resolution authorized the president to use ``all
necessary and appropriate force against those nations,
organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized,
committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on
Sept. 11, 2001.''
September 21, 2001. H.R. 2904, Military Construction
Appropriations for FY 2002. The bill appropriates $10.5
billion for military construction programs in FY 2002.
September 21, 2001. H.R. 2926, Air Transportation Safety
and System Stabilization Act. This bill provided $15 billion
in assistance to the U.S. airline industry to help stabilize
the financial condition of the industry in the wake of the
terrorist attacks on Sept. 11--$5 billion in immediate cash
assistance and $10 billion in loan guarantees.
September 24, 2001. H.J. RES. 65, Continuing Appropriations
for FY 2002.
September 25, 2001. H.R. 2586, Department of Defense
Authorization for Fiscal Year 2002.
September 25, 2001. H.R. 2944, District of Columbia
Appropriations for Fiscal Year 2002.
October 5, 2001. H.R. 2646, Farm Security Act.
October 11, 2001. H.R. 3061, Labor-HHS-Education
Appropriations for Fiscal Year 2002.
October 12, 2001. H.R. 2975, PATRIOT Act.
October 17, 2001. H.R. 3004, Financial Anti-Terrorism Act.
The bill gives the Treasury Department new powers to combat
money laundering by imposing additional record-keeping
requirements and by restricting or banning dealings with
suspect foreign financial entities.
October 17, 2001. H.R. 2904, Military Construction
Appropriations for FY 2002.
October 17, 2001. H.R. 2217, Interior and Related Agencies
Appropriations for FY 2002.
October 23, 2001. H.R. 3160, Bioterrorism Enforcement Act
of 2001. The bill established criminal penalties for the
unsafe or illegal possession or transfer of certain
biological agents and toxins--including anthrax--and it
required the Health and Human Services Department (HHS) to
develop new regulations governing the possession and use of
those substances.
October 24, 2001. H.R. 3090, Tax Incentives for Economic
Recovery. The measure provided business and individual tax
cuts totaling $99.5 billion in 2002 and $159.4 billion over
10 years.
October 24, 2001. H.R. 3162, USA PATRIOT Act Conference
Report.
October 25, 2001. H.J. RES. 70, Continuing Appropriations
for FY 2002.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
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Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Cole) for the time. This is the first rule of which I hope are many that the gentleman…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Cole) for the time. This is the first rule of which I hope are many that the gentleman and I are managing together. He has already been welcomed to the committee, so I extend those same warm welcomes to him for managing this measure.
Mr. Speaker, I rise today in opposition to this closed rule which limits debate on how this body should operate if it experiences mass causality. This is an issue of grave importance to the American people and the integrity of that democracy in times of dire crisis.
The decision of the majority to place any restrictions on this body prohibiting Members from offering amendments and freely debating the subject is not responsible.
The terrorist attacks of September 11 changed the way that we as a country operate. In turn, Congress has rightfully committed itself to creating policy that protects Americans from future attacks, though I question how successful we have been in our actions. September 11 also presented us with a challenge to consider continuity in the House during a worst-case scenario. In examining such a grim situation, we must foresee what will be needed to regain stability and reassure the American people and the world that our government is going about business as usual.
While I believe that the underlying legislation is an honest attempt to address the concerns which I just raised, the discussion surrounding the issue has been, as one constitutional scholar wrote, embarrassingly partisan. Even more, the product of 3 years of discussion on the issue that the majority is bringing to the floor is incomplete, unrealistic, and fails to consider the implications of changing statute when we should be amending the United States Constitution.
The underlying legislation requires the States to hold special elections within 45 days in the case of extraordinary circumstances. This is a problematic requirement. When the Committee on House Administration took testimony from State and local election officials, it was told that 45 days is not enough time to pull off a primary and general election. Election officials noted that mailing ballots to absentee, overseas, and military voters for a primary and general election and then waiting for their return would alone take more than 45 days. This does not include the time that it takes to print and process ballots.
Should this time period be adopted, it would undoubtedly result in the disenfranchisement of millions, including
seniors who vote absentee, our diplomatic corps, and our men and women serving in our Armed Forces.
The majority finally agreed with Democrats and local election officials yesterday that 45 days is not enough time to conduct these critical elections. Late last night we were informed that my friends on the Republican side are now seeking to amend the rule so that they may offer a manager's amendment which will increase the time elections must be conducted from 45 to 49 days. Four days, Mr. Speaker. What can you realistically do in 4 more days?
This is more of a cosmetic and convenient change than substantive. It still sets up a process that will lead to the selection of Members of Congress who are potentially not the real choice of the citizenry. All of this is happening at the same time my friends in the majority have blocked Democratic Members from offering three different amendments to the bill, all of which were germane and all of which were turned in on time. It seems to me that we operate under two rules in the House of Representatives: one for them and one for us.
Later today, Democrats will offer an amendment lengthening the special election period from 45 to 60 days. Our proposal provides elections officials with a more realistic solution to a daunting task most likely overshadowed by grief and angst. I hope that Members of this body will place the integrity of our democracy above petty politics and vote to adopt the Millender-McDonald amendment.
Additionally, the continuity-in-government commission has recommended a different approach. It has suggested that States create lists of possible appointments to seats vacated due to mass causality to ensure that the House can continue to operate while States move forward with their own special elections process. These temporary appointments would serve until States are able to elect representatives in accordance to their own laws.
This is a fair approach and one which should be considered on equal footing as the underlying legislation. Yet, when our colleague, the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird), offered this proposal in the 108th Congress, as a footnote, the gentleman from Washington's (Mr. Baird) wife is about to deliver their child and he might not get here. We are hoping that he does. But he certainly has been a stalwart leader in the effort to do what is necessary to preserve the integrity of this body. When he introduced this proposal, Republicans sought to embarrass him and the commission's ideas for which he was fighting. They set up a vote in the way that it was impossible for the proposal to be given its due consideration. In my view, it was cutthroat politics, and we should not allow for those kind of actions.
Incomplete as it is, the underlying legislation also fails to consider mass causality where the Speaker is a victim and is unable to trigger special elections. It does not address how the House quorum rules will work in the case of mass House vacancies. Perhaps most importantly, the underlying legislation could potentially leave our country without an effective or legitimate legislative branch for the first 6 weeks following a disaster.
Think about it this way: in the first 6 weeks following September 11, the House, this House, authorized the President to use force against terrorists and appropriated $40 billion to address the emergencies in New York and at the Pentagon. If the underlying legislation is dropped, the legitimacy of actions taken by a shorthanded Congress, most likely during a time of war, would always be in question. For me, this scenario is unacceptable.
Regardless of the House's decisions today, States and voters must ultimately approve this process through a constitutional amendment. It took less than 14 months to approve each of the 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st, 23rd, and 26th amendments respectively. Anyone who suggests that the constitutional amendment process takes years, in my view, is incorrect.
Throughout history, when constitutional amendments have been needed, States and voters have responded. I suspect that they will respond similarly in this case.
All of these concerns underscore the need for this body to consider this legislation in an open and much larger discussion on the continuity of our government during times of mass causality. The effects of our hastiness today may not be felt while any of us are alive, but at some point in the future our successors and our States will be trapped by poor decisions we might make today.
I urge my colleagues to oppose this closed rule.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I have great respect for the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), and I know that he knows that the 17th amendment of the United States Constitution speaks to continuity.
I also know that he knows that the Congress, for purposes of preserving our institutions, allowed for the development of a continuity-of-government commission. On that commission a significant number of outstanding individuals from America, a broad cross-section of them, came up with the notion that it was critical that we have a constitutional amendment to go forward. Let me name some of the people that were on that commission: Lloyd Cutler; Alan Simpson; Philip Chase Bobbitt; Kenneth Duberstein; Tom Foley, former Speaker of the House; Robert Michel, minority leader; Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House; Nicholas B. Katzenbach; Jamie Gorelick; Robert Katzmann; Kweisi Mfume; Lynn Martin; Donna Shalala; and their senior counselors were Norman Orenstein and Thomas Mann.
What they said in the very preamble of their document is the following: We held two public meetings where we heard testimony from experts, and in the course of our investigation, we explored a wide range of options short of a constitutional amendment to ameliorate or solve these problems.
The commissioners, all of those persons that I just identified, shared distaste for frivolous or unnecessary amendments to the Constitution. Unfortunately, because the Constitution dictates the way that vacancies are to be filled in the House and Senate, there is no way to establish a procedure to quickly fill mass vacancies without a constitutional amendment. No less authorities than Robert Michel and Newt Gingrich and Tom Foley and Lloyd Cutler, folks who have studied the Constitution, actively came to that conclusion. I tend to share their view.
And the chairman of the Committee on Rules spoke of James Madison. No greater or eminent scholar that laid the foundation perhaps, other than Jefferson, dealt with all of the issues that they contemplated in their time. But I wonder if Mr. Madison would deem it fair that the House operates with closed rules rather than open rules. We had a vote on whether or not there should be an open rule in this important process for America, and we had an amendment offered by a distinguished Member of this body, the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Sabo), requiring States to offer same-day voter registration for special elections held in accordance with this bill. Seems reasonable that people would be scattered and other things on their minds in a crisis such as we had experienced on 9/11.
My colleague from New York (Mr. Nadler), who lost more people than all of us combined in the 9/11 tragedy, offered a measure to prohibit deceiving any person as to the time, place, or eligibility requirements of special elections held in accordance with this bill.
And the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Conyers), the ranking member of the Committee on the Judiciary, offered an amendment that would require States to equally and fairly distribute election personnel and equipment when it conducts the special elections contemplated in this bill. All three of those civil rights measures went down the tube with the closed rule.
When we open up this institution, we will be able to address matters in a
more meaningful way so that the minority can have their amendments contemplated in good kind.
I end by saying that Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institution, who was one of the lead authors of the continuity commission's report, stated in front of the Committee on House Administration the following: ``The inability to swiftly constitute the House and Senate would deprive the country of a fully functioning first branch of government at a time of grave national crisis. Unable to achieve a quorum, or relying on a questionable quorum interpretation allowing a small minority, possibly a handful of surviving Members to act for the full Chamber, Congress would be unable to legitimately elect a new Speaker or confirm a new Vice President, both critical links in Presidential succession.
They will be unable to declare war, appropriate funds, pass legislation needed to deal with the attack, confirm Supreme Court and Cabinet appointments, oversee an executive branch possibly run by someone largely unknown to the country, and reassure a stunned Nation that their constitutional democracy is alive and well.''
Constitutional democracy, not statutory democracy as we are offering here today.
Mr. Madison offered the 17th amendment to the United States Constitution that has held well through the years with reference to continuity, and we owe no less responsibility to those Founders to be mindful of our responsibilities in that regard by offering up to the American people an appropriate constitutional amendment to be debated and decided by the people of this great country.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time. My good colleague from California raised the exact and critical point. The question is, what happens during those 45 days? We will…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time.
My good colleague from California raised the exact and critical point. The question is, what happens during those 45 days? We will need to support elections. There is not a single Member of this House who has not supported some form of general election, a special election, to replace the Members at some point. But during that 45 days, what happens?
The Chair of the Constitution Subcommittee says this is what happens: martial law. We do not know who would fill the vacancy of the Presidency, but we do know that the Succession Act most likely suggests it would be an unelected person.
The sponsors of the bill before us today insist, and I think rightfully so, on the importance of elections. But to then say that during a 45-day period we would have none of the checks and balances so fundamental to our Constitution, none of the separation of powers, and that the Presidency would be filled by an unelected member of the Cabinet who not a single member of this country, not a single citizen, voted to fill that position, and that that person would have no checks and balances from Congress for a period of 45 days I find extraordinary. I find it inconsistent. I find it illogical, and, frankly, I find it dangerous.
The gentleman from Wisconsin refused earlier to yield time, but I was going to ask him, if Virginia has those elections in a shorter time period, they should be commended for that. So now we have a situation in the Congress where the Virginia delegation has sent their Members here, but many other States do not have Members here. Do they at that point elect a Speaker of the House in the absence of other Members? And then three more States elect their representatives, temporary replacements, or full replacements at that point. They come in. Do they elect a new Speaker? And if that happens, who becomes the President under the Succession Act?
This bill does not address that question. This bill responds to real threats with fantasies. It responds with the fantasy, first of all, that a lot of people will still survive; but we have no guarantee of that. It responds with the fantasy that those who do survive will do the right thing. We are here having this debate, we have debates every day, because people differ on what the right thing is to do.
I have been in very traumatic situations with people in severe car wrecks and mountain climbing accidents. My experience has not been that crisis imbues universal sagacity and fairness. It has not been that. People respond in extraordinary ways, and we must preserve an institution that has the deliberative body and the checks and balances to meet those challenges.
Many of our States are going increasingly to mail-in ballots. We in this body were effectively disabled by an anthrax attack not long after September 11. I would ask my dear friends, will you conduct this election in 45 days if there is anthrax in the mail and still preserve the franchise of the American people? How will you do that? You have no answer to that question.
I find it extraordinary, frankly, that while saying you do not want to amend the Constitution, we began this very Congress by amending the Constitution through the rule, by undermining the principle that a quorum is 50 percent of the body and instead saying it is however many people survive. And if that rule applies, who will designate it, who will implement it? The Speaker, or the Speaker's designee? Again, not an elected person, as you say is so critical and I believe is critical, but a temporary appointee, frankly, who not a single other Member of this body knows who they are. So we not only have an unelected person, we have an unknown person who will convene this body, and who, by the way, could conceivably convene it for their own election to then become the President of the United States under the Succession Act.
You have refused steadfastly to debate this real issue broadly. You had a mock debate in the Committee on the Judiciary in which the distinguished chairman presented my bill without allowing me the courtesy or dignity to defend it myself. And on that, you proudly say you defend democracy. Sir, I think you dissemble in that regard.
Here is the fundamental question for us, my friends, and it is this: The American people are watching television and an announcement comes on and says the Congress has been destroyed in a nuclear attack, the President and Vice President are killed and the Supreme Court is dead and thousands of our citizens in this town are.
What happens next? Under your bill, 45 days of chaos. Apparently, according to the Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution chairman, 45 days of marshal law, rule of this country by an unelected President with no checks and balances. Or an alternative, an alternative which says quite simply that the people have entrusted the Representatives they send here to make profound decisions, war, taxation, a host of other things, and those Representatives would have the power under the bill of the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) bill or mine to designate temporary successors, temporary, only until we can have a real election.
The American people, in one scenario, are told we do not know who is going to run the country, we have no Representatives; where in another you will have temporary Representatives carrying your interests to this great body while we deliberate and have real elections. That is the choice.
You are making the wrong choice today if you think you have solved this problem.
Mr. Chairman, I want to thank my good friend from California (Mr. Rohrabacher). I will always remember that day, as we all will. His point is well taken.
I understand there is good intent behind the bill before us today and the amendment, but it is not enough. It simply is not. It leaves our country vulnerable for 45 days and that is too long.
The distinguished chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary made some comments recently that suggested that somehow terrorists would oppose this bill and by some implication would favor the bill the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) and I have put forward because it seems to support their autocratic views of government. Nothing could be further from the truth.
In fact, what our bill would do is tell the terrorists, you could come on a single day and set off a nuclear weapon in this town and kill every single Member of us; and though we would be missed, the very next day the Congress would be up and functioning with every single State, every single district having full representation by statesmen and stateswomen at a time of national crisis.
That is what the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) and I are trying to do. We are trying to tell the terrorists, you can kill all of us as individuals, but you will not defeat this institution. You will not defeat the principle of representation. You will not
defeat the principles of checks and balances. You will not impose martial law.
Here is the irony. If terrorists hit us today when we finally vote on this, let us suppose a few Democrats do not make it over here. You are leaving this country vulnerable to change in power. If the terrorists were to strike your conference retreat where the President speaks to the Republican House and Senate Members and kill hundreds of House and Senate Members on the Republican side, the Democrats at that point claim the majority. The Democrats at that point elect a Speaker of the House. I am a Democrat, for goodness sakes; but that is not the way to leave our country vulnerable.
You are leaving your own party, you are leaving the will of the people through their elections vulnerable. If we have temporary replacements, you immediately reconstitute the House; you immediately ensure representation; you assure that you maintain the balance of political power; and you do it in an orderly, structured way with no chaos, in a way that is constitutionally valid by definition.
What you have proposed is not necessarily constitutionally valid. It leaves the terrorists able to change our system of government. It depends on a fantasy immediate or quick election. It does not allow really qualified people necessarily to get here and act in time. There are so many things you have left undone.
You are going to try to say that at the start of this year we have solved this problem; let us go home.
You have not solved the problem, and it is a doggone disgrace, and it is a danger to this country.
The other day a gentleman testified before the Committee on the Budget and said this: ``The lack of preparation for continuity, for true continuity invites attack.''
You are inviting attack. Not preventing attack.
Mr. Chairman, I offer a preferential motion.
Mr. Chairman, I rise to make two fundamental points before we proceed to vote on this. The two points are these: This resolution does not solve the real problem and it may create more problems than it purports to solve, and we have to understand that.
It does not solve the problem for this reason: By leaving us without a Congress for 45 days, we essentially impose the opportunity for the executive branch to exert marshal law, and that is not what the Framers of this country had in mind.
This bill, if we do not provide some mechanism for prompt replacement other than this bill, will leave this country governed by an unelected executive, a cabinet member most likely who not a single American elected to that office.
Furthermore, it has a host of problems. It does not address the possibility that one delegation will elect its Representatives more promptly than another. They will come to this body, choose one of its members as Speaker. That person could move on to become the President. Then another delegation comes in, et cetera.
You are essentially leaving this country without a House of Representatives, without checks and balances, without separation of powers, for at least 45 days, assuming an election can be held in 45 days and assuming that the terrorists through an anthrax attack, like they subjected this very Capitol to, will not somehow undermine that ability.
This is reality. We have seen the reality here. We saw those airplanes hit the buildings, we saw the anthrax, and yet we are not truly acting to solve this.
Mr. Chairman, I yield to my distinguished friend, the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher).
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, let me make two final points: One, the majority party must understand this: If you are at a Republican Conference retreat and terrorists should strike you and kill the President and Vice President and significant numbers of your side of the aisle, the Democrats under your proposed law will obtain the majority, will elect a Speaker of the House, and that person will then become the President of the United States of America. You are leaving this country vulnerable to that. You must not do it. You must not.
This matter must be taken seriously. It deserves full debate. Whether it is the proposal of the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) and mine or others, we should commit to having this full House seriously consider this. If we do not and we are not fortunate, history will not look kindly upon the jeopardy in which we have left this great Nation.
Vote no on this bill and insist on true debate on true continuity of Congress in a responsible way that protects the balance of power, assures real succession to the presidency, and, most importantly, assures that your constituents will have representation at a time when our Nation may well go to nuclear war, institute a draft, appropriate trillions of dollars, suspend habeas corpus and impose marshal law. You do not want that. But if you stop at this bill, you leave this Nation vulnerable.
Mr. Chairman, if there is no one to speak in opposition, I ask unanimous consent to withdraw my preferential motion.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 10 minutes. Mr. Chairman, I know this seems a strange thing to say on a bill as small as the bill to fund the congressional budget, but I honestly believe, because of the…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 10 minutes.
Mr. Chairman, I know this seems a strange thing to say on a bill as small as the bill to fund the congressional budget, but I honestly believe, because of the attachment of the proposal for the continuity of Congress, that this bill is by far the worst bill to come to the floor in this session of Congress.
I believe that that continuity of representation provision attached to this bill is an assault on constitutional government. I believe it is an assault on checks and balances. It is an assault on the rule of law. It is an invitation to one-man rule and dictatorship. I think it is profoundly misguided, profoundly misgotten, and I think a profound disservice is done in not having months and months of hearings with constitutional scholars before such a drastic proposal is brought before the House.
I think there is a very good reason that the Senate has not taken it up. It is because it is a turkey of a proposal. It could leave us literally with 75 and 80 percent of the congressional districts in this country unrepresented in a time of crisis, at a time of terrorist attack, and unrepresented in the halls of Congress, and I think that is a bad way to do business.
What I would like to do now is to talk about another problem in this bill. That is the Congressional Visitors Center. I really believe that the Congressional Visitors Center has been mismanaged in such spectacular fashion that it is really sort of a metaphor for the way that the entire Federal budget deficit has been mismanaged, and let me explain what I mean.
This project originally started as a $95 million project to have a modest expansion of the Capitol, to give tourists an opportunity to come in and see a movie about what the Congress was all about before they visited the Capitol. But the security assault on this Capitol and 9/11 has, in my view, been used as an excuse to expand this operation. We have also had other efforts from the Library of Congress and other institutions to further expand this proposition; and so as a result, today, this project is a $500 million-plus project. It is more than a year behind schedule, and I think it is wasting taxpayers' money and wasting an opportunity that we had to provide much-needed usable space for the Congress at the same time.
What is happening out on the East Front is that over 2 acres of underground space is being added to the Capitol. Some of that is being added for purposes of a visitors center and some of the other space is being added for the purpose of expanding space under control of the Senate and the House to do their work.
We all know that this Congress needs more working space. In my view, the number one need of the Congress for working space is the need for additional rooms for conference committees between the Senate and the House because most of our hearings, especially on the Committee on Appropriations. When I came here, they were held behind closed doors. The press was not in, the public was not in. So there was plenty of room for a few people to get behind closed doors and work out deals and that is not the way government is supposed to work today.
Today, when we have a conference committee, the press has a right to be there. We need our staffs there, and the public has the right to be there, too. We have no real room in the Capitol for that kind of facility.
This is an opportunity to create that kind of room. Instead, what has happened? Instead, the only appreciable room of any quality in the new House space is what is called the House hearing room, but in plain language, that room is really a media center. That is going to be where the press focuses whenever there is a hearing in that room because it will have all of the creature comforts for the press. That room will have ample room for one hearing, one presentation, and whoever runs the Congress will be able to decide what subject it is that gets that attention. If you are trying to hold another public hearing on another subject in the Capitol, you are going to be stuck in tiny rooms that are worthless in terms of public access.
When I visited the visitors center, I asked the Architect why, with these vaulted ceilings that you have set aside for this hearing room, why could you not simply reduce the height of those rooms and at least provide two rooms of approximately the same size so that we had enough overflow room for the committees to do our work and to have conference committees? I have yet to get an answer from the Architect's office.
That is my problem. My problem is that with all of this space being created, much of it is not usable for the purpose that we need it used for.
Then we come to the other portion of the add-on, which is the portion devoted to the visitors center. Originally, that visitors center was supposed to have two media theaters so that the public could come in, see a short film about the Congress, and then be on its way.
Here is the problem. We have those two small orientation theaters, but in addition to that, we have this huge congressional auditorium, which is going to seat 450-plus people. I asked the Architect, and this is a vaulted theater, I asked why do we need another theater in the Capitol? What I was told by the Architect is, ``Well, you can bring in large constituency groups.'' I would like to know how many Members of the House have ever brought 500 people into the Capitol. I do not think there are going to be many people would raise their hands.
The second thing the Architect told me is that, ``Well, we need a place for where the House of Representatives can meet when the House Chamber is being remodeled.''
That I found a might strange, because we have just redecorated the Committee on Ways and Means room in the Longworth Building. That room was originally created to serve as an alternative meeting place for the House of Representatives when we had to repair this Chamber. So we have already got a spare room.
In addition, we have another spare room I cannot talk about because it is classified, but it is being built off campus somewhere. So in essence we will have three spare rooms. I do not know how much the off- campus room is costing the taxpayers or how much the Committee on Ways and Means room cost the taxpayers, but this room is going to cost a bundle.
I keep asking ``What is the real purpose for this room?'' You finally go back 10 years and look at the original plans, what do we find out. We find out that this was originally included in the plans at the request of the Library of Congress because they wanted another theater to show movies and give presentations. That might be nice for them to have, but this project is already 400 percent over original cost. I do not think it makes any sense. I think this is the last chance that we are going to have to reconfigure this center so we have some additional working space instead of the Taj Mahal show space we are going to have.
Another thing I do not like, we have been told we are likely to have three congressional seals in the new visitors center. Those seals, I have been told, will cost up to a million bucks. Does any Member really want to take the political heat when taxpayers find out that somebody is talking about spending $1 million on three congressional seals? Do Members remember the Cain that was raised when marble floors were put in four of our elevators in the Capitol? Does anybody have any memory? I would like to think so, but I guess not.
Mr. Chairman, I consider myself to be an institutional man. I usually support this piece of legislation; but out of frustration, I am not going to support it today because I think this Capitol Visitors Center, when it is finally built, is going to draw flies in terms of bad stories about waste of taxpayer money, misuse of space, and we are going to wind up not having enough room for the principal function of government. If this is, indeed, supposed to be a working Capitol, then we ought to be able to do better than this floor plan.
I really believe this package has been brought to us by staff who do not really understand how committees work and do not really understand the principal needs of this institution. This is the last time we are going to have a chance to repair this package and
make it more usable for the 100 years at least that it will be used. I urge Members to vote against this bill so we can start over.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Moran).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 1 minute.
I want to simply say I congratulate the gentleman from California. I agree with the gentleman from California. I would be perfectly willing to vote for this proposition today if we had a constitutional amendment going at the same time, so that the solution in this bill would be only a temporary solution until we got a real one.
Without the Rohrabacher approach, or something similar, and I happen to prefer the one he introduced in the last Congress, but without something like that, we guarantee that we can have the President governing with literally a handful of people in the Congress. We could have hundreds of districts with no representation whatsoever. That is not continuity. That is chaos. That is martial law. That is one-man rule.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Oregon (Mr. Blumenauer).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 10 seconds to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of the time.
Mr. Chairman, with respect to the Congressional Visitors Center, we are not saying there should not be one; all we are saying is that the one that is being proposed is screwed up and spectacularly wasteful and needs to be changed.
With respect to the assertion of my friend from Illinois that we do not have to worry about not having a Congress for 45 days because there will not be anything for Members of Congress to do, all I can tell my colleague is, if that is the case, then I wonder why it is that the gentleman from Florida (Chairman Bill Young) and I negotiated a $20 billion supplemental appropriation just a few days after 9/11; and I wonder why it is we were sitting in the office of the gentleman from Illinois (Speaker Hastert) until 12:30 at night hammering out differences with people on the Senate side who did not agree with what we had done; and why it is that the President made a commitment of $10 billion to New York; and why we had to spend a lot of time backing him up.
I would also remind the gentleman we had a debate on the House floor when the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure tried to slip into that bill an extra $10 billion appropriation for the airlines.
There was plenty for us to do after 9/11; and thank God, in contrast to the proposition being set out today, thank God that then we had a Congress around to do it.
If you want to vote for a situation in which we can have no Congress whatsoever for 45 days, then by all means vote for this provision. If you do not, if you think we ought to have some kind of balance and check on the Presidency during that period by having somebody here to do the Nation's business, then my colleagues will reconsider and listen to what the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) and the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) have to say.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, just one point. We did that 3 days after 9/ 11, 3 days.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Moran).
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, I want to inquire of the distinguished gentleman from Wisconsin (Chairman Sensenbrenner), I…
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I want to inquire of the distinguished gentleman from Wisconsin (Chairman Sensenbrenner), I have an amendment in the nature of a substitute. In the spirit of collegiality, I realize that we have a rule, but I gained a sense that the Committee on House Administration would be supportive of this substitute which would only allow an added 5 days for an appeal from 2 days, less than a week. I would inquire of the chairman of the Committee on the Judiciary, would the gentleman allow that to move forward by unanimous consent? If the gentleman would answer with just a yes or no whether we would be able to move forward with this substitute, I would be delighted to work with the chairman.
I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
Reclaiming my time, I think they would have followed the gentleman's lead, but I thank the gentleman very much.
Let me move forward with the amendment before us. This is my very point. I encourage my colleagues, both Republicans and Democrats, to look very carefully at the Jackson-Lee amendment, and I ask for their support.
This is the problem we have here today, and that is the continuity and the preservation of this historic and honorable institution, the Members of the United States Congress, really should be a bipartisan process. I am disappointed we are not, even in time of death and tragedy, terrorism, that we cannot find in our hearts and in our intellectual minds the ability to be collegial and to work in an very informed and thoughtful way.
This particular amendment is very succinct, and I ask my colleagues to give it considerable thought and vote for it. One, the amendment has the expansion of the ability of an aggrieved party to file suit for either declaratory or injunctive relief from just 2 days to 5 days. This is a question to answer the needs of the Secretaries of State and the States that when this crisis occurs, that all of them have the procedures in place to be able to fulfill our democratic calling.
This is not a constitutional amendment. I wish it were. But since we are doing this by statute, why not give the opportunity for there to be enough open view and transparency for this to occur?
Number 2 of this amendment is a provision for an expedited appeals process to the United States District Court for matters rising out of the special election process because a 45-day deadline for special State election already places significant constraints on the electoral process and on the citizens represented due to its brevity, taking away the right to an appeal to the U.S. District Court. This gives an expedited appeal.
In addition, this provides for an expansion of the right to sue for declaratory judgment beyond the Governor, but to citizens and classes of citizens.
Mr. Chairman, the gravity of the matter of reconstituting the House of Representatives in the face of catastrophe requires the fullest debate possible. However, due to the fact that a structured rule was reported out of Committee, this body is relegated to saving this severely flawed legislation by way of the only two amendments made in order last Tuesday--those of my colleague, the distinguished Ranking Member of the House Administration Committee and the Jackson-Lee Amendment. The Jackson-Lee Amendment has three essential components which propose to preserve the rights of the States, the voters, and of the spirit of democracy:
The first portion of this amendment, Jackson-Lee #1, reads as follows:
In section 26(b)(4)(B)(i) of the Revised Statutes of the
United States, as proposed to be added by the bill, strike
``2 days'' and insert ``5 days.''
This change would amend the section of the bill that deals with the time in which a person(s) may file a lawsuit arising out of the Speaker of the House's announcement of vacancies in the House of Representatives in excess of 100. This change would amend paragraph (4), subparagraph (B)(i) and expand the ability of an aggrieved party to file suit for either declaratory or injunctive party to file suit for either declaratory or injunctive relief from just two (2) days to five (5) days.
Because not every State has a Capital Beltway or even a superhighway system, and because information travels at a different rate in every location, it is important that we establish a fair standard for a filing rule that affects every State in the country. The principle of procedural due process dictates that every citizen of each State have a realistic opportunity to obtain legal relief through our Judicial Branch.
The second portion of this proposal speaks even more to the issue of due process for all citizens. Its text reads as follows:
In section 26(b)(4)(B)(iii) of the Revised Statues of the
United States, as proposed to be added by the bill, insert
after ``the action'' the following: ``(taking into account an
opportunity for an expedited appeal of the initial
decision).''.
Because the 45-day deadline for special State elections already places significant constraints on the electoral process and on the citizens represented due to its brevity, taking away the right to an appeal from the U.S. District Court would excessively curtail the procedural due process rights enjoyed by citizens. Given that the time in which a Federal judge has to compose an order disposing of these matters is provided in this bill, an equally expeditious appeals process should be provided so as to maintain consistency with the U.S. Constitution and the commitment to both the 5th and 14th Amendments.
Thirdly, the amendment reads as follows:
In section 26(b)(4)(B)(iv) of the Revised Statutes of the
United States, as proposed to be added by the bill, insert
after ``vacant'' the following: ``any citizen of the district
or any group of citizens of the State.''.
This proposal is very important to protect the interests of all citizens in the various congressional districts in the midst of party politics as well as the certification of classes in legal actions. As the bill is drafted, Section 2, paragraph (4), subparagraph (iv) would confer the right to sue in the event of a vacancy announcement by the Speaker of the House
solely to the ``executive authority,'' in the case of Texas, the Governor. Such overly restrictive language almost certainly threatens to deprive the citizens of a right that they should enjoy in the event that the Governor chooses not to participate in a suit for declaratory or injunctive relief pursuant to a vacancy announcement made by the Speaker of the House. In order to protect the rights of every person who truly has an interest in a call for a special election under this Act, this provision must be amended to allow citizens and classes of citizens to sue for relief.
Mr. Chairman, I ask that my colleagues support the voters of each State, the framework of the U.S. Constitution, and the spirit of democracy by supporting the Jackson-Lee Amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, do I have the right to close?
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 45 seconds.
Mr. Chairman, this is about chaos and confusion. There is no definition of how the announcement will go out to the people beyond the beltway. A mere extending from 2 days to 5 days to make sure that Americans, even in crisis, have due process and democracy and justice is not too much to ask. I would indulge and beg my colleagues to realize all this does is simply allow for the people of America in crisis to be represented and to be responded to.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Millender-McDonald), the ranking member of the Committee on House Administration.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time, and thank the gentlewoman for her support.
Again, the idea of this amendment, in the judicial review aspect, one, there is no definitive information about how the information will be disseminated to our States and to citizens in a 2-day period if crisis is occurring, if a terrorist act has occurred. My amendment gives an additional 5 days to guarantee that that notice be given.
In addition, the other aspects of the legislation provides for an expedited time frame. It does not in any way cause a sufficient delay that would not allow us to restore this body to its ability to do business on behalf of the American people. Continuity, tragedy, all equal bipartisanship. I would ask my colleagues to look at this amendment and all it does provide, the enhanced due process. And I think we would not want the terrorists to believe that because of a terrorist act that we have lost our sense of judgment, the Constitution and due process.
After 9/11, we went to New York to show that we are not afraid of the terrorists. I believe we should show that we are not afraid of them by upholding the Constitution and due process on behalf of the American people. Vote for the Jackson-Lee amendment. I ask my colleagues to vote for this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I might consume. The legislative branch bill, Mr. Chairman, provides for $2.870 billion, an increase of only 1.7 percent over the fiscal year 2005. The bill…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I might consume.
The legislative branch bill, Mr. Chairman, provides for $2.870 billion, an increase of only 1.7 percent over the fiscal year 2005. The bill represents a $270 million reduction from the budget request.
Mr. Chairman, although we did not agree on every item on this bill, we worked very closely with the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) to produce a bipartisan bill for the legislative branch. I want to thank all the committee members for their contributions in putting this bill together.
While small in size, this is the bill that funds the work of the Congress, and it is a bill that we all can be very proud of.
The bill includes funding for the operations of the House and several joint items, the Capitol Police, the Compliance Board, the Congressional Budget Office, the Architect of the Capitol, the Library of Congress, the Government Printing Office, the General Accountability Office, and the Open World Leadership Program.
There will be no reductions in the current workforce.
The bill provides for all personnel cost-of-living increases and all other pay-related costs.
The bill also was reported out of the full committee on a voice vote.
The Capitol Visitor Center is funded at the cost-to-complete level of $36.9 million. The bill does not include funding for CVC operating expenses.
The bill establishes an Inspector General for the Capitol Police. The bill terminates the mounted horse unit and transfers the horses and equipment to the U.S. Park Service.
As part of an amendment in the full committee, I offered, and the committee adopted, the Continuity in Representation Act at the Speaker's request. This bill has passed the House twice, and just recently, the vote in March was 329 to 68.
Mr. Chairman, this is a good bill and one that benefits the entire legislative branch. Ultimately, this is the bill that reflects the work of the House. We are all in this together, Mr. Chairman, and because of that, I feel very strongly that this legislation should have the support of the entire House.
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Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 7 minutes to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. LaHood).
(Mr. LaHOOD asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
I appreciate very much the gentleman having this colloquy with me and raising this important issue. As we have discussed, the smoking policy in the House office buildings is under the jurisdiction of the House Office Building Commission. That commission is made up of leaders on both sides of the aisle; and, frankly, I am very hesitant to interfere with their responsibility or their work. But I think it is very important that the gentleman is raising this issue today, and I am happy to have this discussion with him.
I would be very happy to join with the gentleman in that discussion. I think I probably will discuss it with my wife as well; but in the meantime, you and I work together on the committee, and I am happy to work with you on almost any issue you might raise.
Mr. Chairman, I am happy to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Peterson).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Price).
If the gentleman will yield, I would be pleased to do so.
Mr. Chairman, let me tell the gentleman that I am very appreciative of his interest in the institution's history. As he is aware, the Speaker controls the placement of plaques on the House side of the Capitol. Their placement is very restricted, and we attempt to achieve recognition of events and places normally through other means.
The Capitol Visitors Center is being designed to provide our visitors with a much fuller understanding and history of the House and Senate. Included in the CVC is a 16,000 square-foot exhibit hall. In this exhibit hall, the architectural and legislative history of the institution are highlighted.
As part of the currently proposed CVC exhibits are detailed sections on the history of the Capitol and included in this is the fact that when the Capitol was originally built, it was used for more than legislative meetings. It was commonly used as the community center for the citizens of Washington, D.C. During that time, there were few places for meetings or church services. Thus, it is correct that such religious services were held here.
All these facts are included in the CVC exhibits, and I would encourage that the education of citizens be pursued in this venue so that a more complete history beyond a plaque can be presented.
There have been, and I very much appreciate the gentleman's interest in this matter. He and I will be pursuing it as we go forward in the months and, indeed, the years ahead.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher).
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I must say I understand the points that the gentleman is making. I believe he has a constitutional amendment that proposes an alternative approach. I must say the Speaker has been most concerned, and he asked me to put this in this bill, because a constitutional amendment takes so long to accomplish. We could be out there for Lord knows how long if it is ever accomplished. In the meantime, he has a proposal that will go forward and will be altered significantly as we go forward in order to expedite the process. That is what the Speaker is asking us to do here.
Mr. Chairman, if the gentleman would yield further, he does have a constitutional amendment proposed. He knows how long and how risky constitutional proposals are. They hardly ever happen. And, therefore, the Speaker wants to make sure this proposal goes forward, and that is what we are suggesting.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Mica).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston).
Mr. Chairman, I rise to yield time to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier); but before doing so, I just want to mention that the previous speaker had a constitutional amendment regarding the issue of continuity in the last Congress, and on that constitutional amendment the vote was 63 yeas and 353 nays. To say the least, the constitutional approach is difficult.
Mr. Chairman, I am glad to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of the time.
Mr. Chairman, it was not my intention to speak in these closing moments.
I yield to the gentleman from Wisconsin.
Mr. Chairman, reclaiming my time, I think it is important for the public to know that all of us are concerned about continuity of government in the event of a tragedy. We certainly would not be having this discussion if it had not been for 9/11.
But, indeed, there are differences in the approach that one might take. Some prefer a constitutional amendment; and yet we have tried that on more than one occasion. We have had the debate, and very few in this House have supported that proposition. So the Speaker has asked us to go forward with an idea that will be worked on carefully between now and the time we finish our work with the Senate.
But from that point forward, let me talk a bit about the Capitol Visitors Center. My colleague, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), and I, early on in this Congress, were not active supporters of a CVC. But, indeed, his leadership and my leadership, at a higher pay grade, made a different decision; so we are carrying forward their work in this process.
I have looked at the visitors center very carefully. It is rather a fabulous addition to the Capitol, the greatest addition that has been made in this century, I believe. Indeed, within the mix of that, while I might change some things, I prefer not to suggest what the details ought to be that the Architect moves forward with. I am critical of the Architect; but in the meantime, I am not one. Therefore, we are going to add this major change whereby visitors can enter the Capitol, and it will have a very significant piece of our future history in the Capitol complex. It is going to be a fabulous addition. Indeed, it will be a very high-quality addition that we will all be proud of, but I think it would be a mistake for me to try to be the architect between now and then.
So with that, Mr. Chairman, this has been a very interesting debate about the work of the people's House. I am very happy to participate in this with my friend, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey).
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise to claim the time in opposition to the amendment, and I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) control 2\1/2\ minutes of that time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in support of H.R. 2985 the Legislative Branch Appropriations for fiscal year 2006. However, I find it truly unfortunate that these Appropriations were consistently…
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in support of H.R. 2985 the Legislative Branch Appropriations for fiscal year 2006. However, I find it truly unfortunate that these Appropriations were consistently under-funded because of the tight budget due to the massive tax cuts given to the richest Americans. These Bush Administration tax cuts have created gaps in so many programs and these Legislative Branch Appropriations are no different.
The total funding for this legislation is $2.87 billion which is only 2% more than current levels and $270 million (9%) less than requested by the various legislative offices and agencies. This bill appropriates $1.1 billion for operations of the House of Representatives which is only $13 million (1%) more than current funding and $35 million (3%) less than requested. It is unfortunate that these Appropriations are so tight, when the cost of operating the House of Representatives is in fact getting higher. These costs are becoming higher because the needs of our constituencies are becoming greater. With these unfortunate budget cuts in place it will be our constituents who suffer. Regardless of these cuts, Congress will continue to function properly and we will serve our constituents proudly, but these cuts in our funding undermine our efforts.
In addition to insufficient funding to the House of Representatives, the greatest deficiencies can be found in the legislative branch agencies that directly or indirectly support Congressional operations. This funding is only $32.6 million (2%) more than current levels and a staggering $234.8 million (12%) less than requested. Funding for the Capitol Police, who are entrusted with protecting the Capitol Complex and all those who work and visit here actually received $2 million (1%) less than in FY 2005, and $50.4 million (17%) less than requested in this Appropriation. The Architect of the Capitol who have worked so hard in the last year to make the Capitol Complex more accessible to visitors received only $317.3 million, $16.7 million (6%) more than current funding but a full $123.6 million (28%) less than requested. The Government Printing Office (GPO) which serves the demanding printing needs of hundreds of legislators every year received only $122.6 million which is $2.8 million (2%) more than current funding but $8.5 million (6%) less than requested. Indeed, even the Library of Congress, the resource for Members and staff to conduct research and the institution meant to be our nation's greatest repository of reading materials, even their
funding was cut in this Appropriation. The Library of Congress received $543 million, about equal to the FY 2005 level but $47.8 million (8%) less than requested. It is sad to see these legislative branch agencies, which work so hard and diligently to support the work of Congress, have their funding needs not met. Again, these agencies will continue to support Congress and they will do their jobs well, but these cuts in funding can only lessen their effectiveness.
However, the issue that has me most concerned about this Appropriation is the language of H.R. 841, which would require states to hold special elections within 49 days of the Speaker declaring that more than 100 vacancies exist in the House. First of all, this language has no business being in this Appropriations measure, it clearly legislates on what is supposed to be a spending bill. Truly, the other side of the aisle is trying to sneak in a piece of legislation within this Appropriation in order to force its passage upon the Senate. Furthermore, this language within this bill threatens to weaken the electoral process, to disenfranchise overseas, disabled, and lower- income voters and thereby reduce individual rights. The more expedited the process of replacing the members of the House and the smaller body constituted is, the less legitimacy it will have. Unless the House constitutes members from all 50 States and through a full, fair, and transparent process, this body will lack qualities that make it truly ``representative.''
Despite my objections with certain provisions of this legislation I will vote in favor of this Appropriation because it serves the needs of our Congress. However, I hope that soon our economic and budgeting practices would change so that we are not forced to make so many cuts in vital areas. I also hope that in the future we do not use these Appropriations bills as a way to further our legislative agendas. It is my sincere hope that the institution of Congress, which was made to serve the needs of the people, will continue to be effective no matter the obstacle.
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in strong support of my colleague Mr. Baird's amendment to H.R. 2985 the Legislative Branch Appropriations for fiscal year 2006. The Baird amendment would strike the language of H.R. 841, which would require states to hold special elections within 49 days of the Speaker declaring that more than 100 vacancies exist in the House. First of all, this language has no business being in this Appropriations measure, it clearly legislates on what is supposed to be a spending bill. Truly, the other side of the aisle is trying to sneak in a piece of legislation within this Appropriation in order to force its passage upon the Senate.
Furthermore, this language within this bill threatens to weaken the electoral process, to disenfranchise overseas, disabled, and lower- income voters and thereby reduce individual rights. The more expedited the process of replacing the members of the House and the smaller the body constituted is, the less legitimacy it will have. Unless the House constitutes members from all 50 States and through a full, fair, and transparent process, this body will lack qualities that make it truly ``representative.''
Forty-nine days is simply not enough time for a state to hold the most free and fair elections. Special elections on average, take four months. In the event of a catastrophic disaster, elections should be held on an expedited time schedule. The pillars of what makes American democracy unique, however, should not be toppled in the pursuit to do so. True democracy dictates that every eligible woman or man has the right to run for office and to vote freely and under fair circumstances. Under the guidelines of this language, this would not be possible. Many states would have to forgo party primaries and the system would lend itself to the wealthiest and most well-known candidates' ability to run virtually unopposed. All debate of the candidates' platforms or characters would be nearly muted, and in effect, Americans would vote ``in the blind.''
Significant disenfranchisement will likely occur in the unrealistic time frame that the language of H.R. 841 offers in this Appropriations measure. There would be no way to mail out and receive absentee ballots in time. Overseas Americans, including those in the military, would not have a realistic chance to vote. Yes, the legislation ostensibly offers military and overseas voters an opportunity to be heard, but 15 days simply are not enough. There is something unseemly about denying our men and women of the military the right to vote in the most consequential elections imaginable, when we would be replacing perhaps the entire House. Logistically, many states would not have sufficient time for voter registration. It would be difficult to even print the ballots in the time allotted under this Act. There are only a few ballot printing companies in this country and a limited supply of ballot-appropriate paper stock. In the case of electronic voting, programs must be written, and even under ideal circumstances, not all the technical glitches have been sufficiently worked out to assure voter privacy or the fidelity of the system.
The language of H.R. 841 in this bill proposes to make the issue of state elections a ``federal question.'' However, just because this issue would become federalized does not mean that we should frustrate the essential elements of democracy.The processes of establishing the eligibility of state candidates, voter registration, voter freedom of choice, and equal access to voting under the Civil Rights Act must be preserved--even in the face of a catastrophe. Democracy should not be abandoned simply because our leadership may have to suddenly change.
Clearly, this language does not belong in this Appropriations bill, nor does it serve the best interest of the American people. I urge all my colleagues to support the Baird amendment and remove this improper language from the Legislative Appropriations bill.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to H.R. 841, and I regret the partisan flavor that seems to have become part of this debate. Mr. Chairman, this bill offers a solution to a crisis, to a problem…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to H.R. 841, and I regret the partisan flavor that seems to have become part of this debate.
Mr. Chairman, this bill offers a solution to a crisis, to a problem that we face, to a challenge that we face, but it is a solution that will not work. I plead with my fellow Republicans to listen to the arguments that have just been made and to determine for themselves whether or not this legislation will do the job that it claims it is intended to do.
I looked at it with an open heart and an open mind and find that I agree with the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) that at a time when we need it the most, this bill will leave us in limbo, without leadership, and it will make America vulnerable at a time when we need leadership the most.
I oppose this legislation. This bill focuses on the continuity of the election process rather than the continuity of Congress. The people who wrote this bill got their priorities all mixed up as to what the purpose of this was supposed to be.
Mr. Chairman, the time frame in this bill of 45 days is both too long and too short. Forty-five days is too long to reconstruct the House of Representatives in a time of crisis when decisions need to be made immediately, so in that 45 days, when we are the most vulnerable, this legislation would leave America the most vulnerable.
But 45 days is also too short a period to preserve the democratic representation that we have heard about, because, yes, you could have elections, but it does not allow time for primary elections. So who are those elections going to be all about? Under this law, party bosses rather than party voters will choose the candidates; thus, they will choose the Representatives. This is hollow, a very hollow approach to democracy, suggesting that this would permit people to be elected, when in fact it will be the party bosses that will be deciding who the voters will have a chance to vote on.
The gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) and I have introduced a bipartisan constitutional amendment that solves the problems that H.R. 841 attempts to address, and it does this without the inevitable limitations of trying to fix a constitutional problem with a simple statute.
House Joint Resolution 26 provides for the immediate replacement of both deceased and incapacitated Members by alternates, who become acting Representatives only until a new Representative is elected. Just as the Vice President of the United States is elected as part of a ticket with the President, alternate Representatives would go on the ballot and be elected as a ticket with their Representative so that in times of crisis, there would be immediate representation for the United States Congress and for the people throughout our country.
H.J. Res. 26 thus solves the constitutional problem that a statute such as H.R. 841 cannot. It provides for both the continuity of Congress and for the continuity of representation for every district in the country, even if only one Representative dies or is in incapacitated. Under our alternative, thus no district would ever be without representation.
H.R. 841, on the other hand, does nothing to address incapacity, and in the case of death, allows as many as 99 districts at a time to go without representation for months.
Under H.J. Res. 26, Acting Representatives would be every bit as much elected officials as the Vice President is, yet would serve only until a new Representative is elected under the fully democratic procedures used by States today. Thus the Rohrabacher-Baird amendment not only solves all the continuity problems, but also preserves the principle that only elected officials may cast a vote in the House of Representatives.
Mr. Chairman, although I oppose the bill before us, the Rohrabacher- Baird amendment is something that can be supported even by those who vote for the bill. I ask my colleagues for their support and co- sponsorship of H.J. Res. 26.
On 9/11 we lived through a crisis that at times seemed bizarre and even surreal. Many otherwise competent leaders were in a state of shock and at one moment when we gathered on the Capitol steps to send a message to the American people, Representative Baird and I realized more was needed and began singing God Bless America. All our colleagues joined in. That was the message the American people needed.
Today let's do what is needed for the American people at a time of maximum crisis.
Mr. Chairman, I would ask my fellow Republicans, please give this serious consideration. This is too important an issue to think about in terms of party politics. This is a time of crisis, when American people will be counting on us to do our best and to set up something that will work in a time of crisis.
I claim the time for the opposition.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I oppose this amendment because it does not correct the fundamental flaw of H.R. 841, which is leaving the United States of America at a time of its worst crisis, its worst potential crisis that you can imagine, it leaves the American people in the lurch, leaves them without representative government and without representation in the Congress for 7 weeks. According to this amendment, there will be no representation for the American people at a time when our government needs leadership.
On 9/11 we lived through a crisis which at times seemed bizarre and even surreal. Many otherwise competent leaders were in a state of shock and at that moment, on 9/11, did not necessarily know or were incapable of doing exactly what the right thing was.
Many of us gathered at the Capitol on that fateful day; we gathered on the steps to back up our leadership. The purpose was to send a message to the American people. Representative Barrett and I realized, once a very short message had been given by our leaders, that the message was not adequate enough. And let me note that on that day, that time of crisis when we were all in confusion, standing on the Capitol about ready to break up, Representative Barrett and I looked at each other in our eyes and said this is not enough. We are going to start singing God bless America right now. And it was Representative Barrett and myself that started leading that singing and were joined in by our colleagues.
Let me note that that was the message the American people needed to hear of unity and God bless America at this time.
Let us today do what is needed for the American people at the time of the next crisis. What is happening is we are being offered an alternative that will leave them in the lurch, leave them wanting at the time of maximum crisis. If we do believe in God bless America, let us join in now with the partisan flavor of this debate and do what is right to make sure our people are prepared if our country is ever attacked like this again.
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird).
Mr. Chairman, I am asking my fellow Republicans to please look at what we are about to do. This solution that we are being offered will not work and will leave the American people vulnerable at a time of maximum crisis.
This is one of the most important votes that we are going to have. What is going to happen in the future if we put this solution in place and there is a crisis? For 45 days after the death or incapacitation of these Members, we will have no government. We will basically be left to marshal law or anything else.
There is an alternative. The people who have written this bill basically have come up with a continuity of elections instead of a continuity of Congress, and they have good motives, but the fact is it will not work. It will create a huge crisis for America at the moment that it needs to have something laid down for them, something solid on which to rely upon at a time of crisis. So, please look at this.
There is an alternative. We did not have to do this by statute. We can do this by constitutional amendment. The gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) and I have a constitutional amendment which will do that.
So, again, let us not leave a void, which this bill does, for the future Americans who will face the crisis of a generation and leave them in the lurch.
Mr. Chairman, first of all, I want to extend thanks to the chairman of the full Committee on Appropriations, the gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis). By this time next week, we will have completed…
Mr. Chairman, first of all, I want to extend thanks to the chairman of the full Committee on Appropriations, the gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis). By this time next week, we will have completed all of the appropriation bills. This is a history-making event in the House of Representatives. I have been here for 11 years; and for the 11 years I have been here, I do not know of another time when we have completed all of our appropriation bills going right up to the July 4 recess break.
That is in large part due to the cooperation that the chairman received from the ranking member, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), but in large part also from the leadership exhibited by the chairman of the full committee. He set a very, very high bar, a high standard, and all of the subcommittee chairs comported with that; and we will have sent to the Senate all of our appropriation bills as of a week from today or a week from tomorrow. That is an accomplishment that should not go unnoticed, and I compliment the gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis) and the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) for their leadership and also the subcommittee chairmen for that kind of goal setting and then meeting those goals.
Secondly, this is an important bill. This is the legislative branch bill. This is the bill where we say to all of the people, and I personally say to all of the people around the Capitol campus, thank you for the good work you do. The clerks, the people taking down our words here, the Congressional Record that will be printed overnight, the Parliamentarians who do such good work in directing the proceedings of the House, all of the Capitol Hill police who stand guard 24-7 and protect the Capitol, the attending physician's office who keep us all healthy, the people who work in the cloakrooms, the people who help us write bills, the people at CRS who help us make sure that we get the words correct and get them done correctly in the bills that we prepare and take a lot of credit for.
The folks who work at the Library of Congress. The most magnificent facility on the Capitol campus is the Library of Congress. I hate to say it, but it is even more magnificent than this building, but the Library of Congress is a magnificent facility. Members have an opportunity to take full advantage of many of the books there and research that can be done. The Botanical Gardens is also a part of our campus. This is the bill that funds all of that.
This is Congress' opportunity to say thank you to all of the people who work around here. It includes the lawyers who make sure that we do things correctly, and all of the people who work hard day and night to keep this building open, keep Members on the right track, and make sure that the things we do are done by the book.
So I pay my compliments to all of the people who make this magnificent facility that we call the United States Capitol the great place that it is, where we make the laws and have the debates and have the opportunity to represent the people from all over the country. We could not do it without this bill, without the funding in this bill, and we could not do it without the people who provide all of the services, and are very dedicated, many of whom work late hours to keep this place going. I want to take my hat off to those folks.
I want to say a word about the visitors center. I want to say this: it is a done deal. The leadership decided several years we needed a visitors center. Has it been done all correctly? No. And the points that the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) makes are correct points. A lot of the work that has been done has been done by direction of staff of the principals. The principals really have not been that involved. They said they wanted a visitors center, and then they allowed the staff over the last 4 or 5 years to give direction. The architects have had many masters on this visitors center, unfortunately.
But it is going to be built, and it is going to be a magnificent opportunity for people to have good shelter and safety. And after 9/11, we do not want people standing outside, we do not want people standing in inclement weather, and there will be an opportunity for people to get a little bit of history before they enter the Capitol. To say we should throw the whole bill out because of the visitors center does not make sense.
I also want to say something about a subject I have felt very strongly about for the last few years, thank the architect and the chief operating officer and others for helping me with this, and that is the development of a staff health fitness center. It is under way in the Rayburn garage. It is for the staff around here who work long hours. There will be a health fitness center that they will be able to take advantage of, to stay healthy and be able to exercise, to have an opportunity to do the same thing that all of the Members have the opportunity to do. I am grateful that we are finally getting that kind of opportunity for our staff to be able to make this happen.
With respect to the provision that was put in the bill having to do with respect to what do we do around here if another disaster happens, if the Members are injured or killed in some kind of an attack, there has to be something that guides the direction of the House in the event that something happens. The Speaker decided in order to get this moving and in order to get the Senate to go along with something, it had to be included in a bill, and it was put in this bill. It was put in, really, to get something done, to make something happen, to have some provision in the event that something happens.
It is probably not the best way to do it, but maybe it will end up to be the most efficient way to do it, to get the Senate finally to come around and sit down and talk to us about what do we do if something happens around here and how do we account for succession.
The Constitution calls for elections, not appointment. When there is a vacancy, there has to be an election. That is the way we get Members to congregate in this House. That is the way it should be.
My point is the idea that this was included and is some sort of nonessential thing, it is essential that we have a provision in the law that allows us to account for a situation in the event that Members need to be replaced. That is really the reason it was put in.
It is a part of the process here. If we want to get things moving, this is one of the ways to do it. It is not unprecedented. We have included other provisions in bills before to try and get some compromise with the Senate. I congratulate the Speaker for trying to get something done on this. If it does not happen here, it probably will not happen. We need to have this provision in the law.
I ask every Member to consider the good work that goes on around here, the fact that this is the bill that funds all of this. This is the bill that takes care of all of the work that we do around here. It is a good bill. My compliments go to the gentleman from California (Mr. Lewis) and the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) and the work of the staff people that made it possible for this bill to come to the floor today.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I will address it in this way: I was here on 9/11, as the gentleman was. There is absolutely nothing for the Members of Congress to do. That is the answer to the gentleman's question. The whole thing was taken over by the administration. There is not going to be anything for any Member of Congress, any major decisions to be made during that period of time. We do not need to be around here.
Mr. Chairman, we were all meandering around here trying to figure out what to do, trying to figure out how to get our phones working. All of the major legislation that was created was created long after the period of time that the gentleman is talking about.
If the gentleman will further yield, what is the time frame?
I was going to respond to the gentleman's other questions.
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Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 125 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 125 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
General Leave
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks on this resolution.
Mr. Speaker, on March 1, the Committee on Rules met and granted a structured rule for H.R. 841, the Continuity in Representation Act of 2005. I believe this is a fair rule that allows for a full discussion of the relevant points pertaining to the legislation before us.
Mr. Speaker, H.R. 841 is an important step forward in addressing what are critical shortcomings in America's plan for the continuity of this House in the event of an unexpected disaster or attack.
While I was not a Member of Congress on September 11, 2001, I was in an office directly across LaFayette Park from the White House. Like all Americans, I remember that day in detail. One of the most significant memories I have is the bipartisan response to the tragedy where Members stood on the steps of the Capitol and let it be known to the world that our government would continue to operate.
Mr. Speaker, the response of Congress to 9/11 should never be forgotten. It was a sign to the world that America was strong, that it would persevere and that we would go forward as a Nation. The underlying legislation today does the exact same thing. It takes an important step to ensure the preservation of our Republic and the continuity of our government under the most trying of circumstances.
Mr. Speaker, very simply, this legislation ensures a continuity of operations for the House of Representatives. In the event that more than 100 Members of Congress are killed, the Speaker may announce that ``exceptional circumstances'' exist and thereby trigger expedited special elections that must occur within 7 full weeks, thus ensuring the continuity of the House of Representatives.
Mr. Speaker, this legislation should not be very divisive based on the fact that a similar measure passed the House by a substantial bipartisan margin of 365 to 97 in the last session of Congress. This legislation ensures the continuity of the people's House. It ensures that the House will still be an elected body chosen by the American public just as the Founders intended.
With that said, let us talk about what the bill is not. It is not an election law bill. It is a continuity bill.
Mr. Speaker, you may well hear many Members describe various provisions today in the context of Federal election law. These measures may have genuine merit. However, they are not relevant to this legislation. Personally, I firmly believe that most Members would agree with me when I suggest that election law should remain essentially a local issue. This is where it resides historically, and this is where it should continue to reside.
Mr. Speaker, we have a clear decision before us today. We can either be responsible in preparing for what we all hope never occurs, or we can engage in pointless bickering over election laws that are historically controlled by the localities. Just a few years ago almost all Members would have viewed a tragedy like September 11 as an unthinkable event, and that is precisely the point. We cannot predict tomorrow. What we do know, however, is that we are engaged in a real, genuine, and taxing global war on terror. This is a generational war and one that will not disappear over night.
Mr. Speaker, simply put, this legislation is about the security and continuity of America's governing institutions. It is an issue of critical importance in establishing an orderly response should the unthinkable occur again.
The legislative history of this bill is clear. This bill originated in direct response to the events of September 11. It is a continuity- in-government bill, not an election reform measure. To confuse the former with the latter by encumbering this bill with extraneous issues would be to lose sight of the fundamental purpose of the legislation. Our job here is to ensure the continuity of the House of Representatives, not reform a state-based electoral process with Federal legislation.
During my time as Secretary of State in Oklahoma, the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building occurred. At that time such an event was considered unthinkable in the United States. That incident and the larger tragedy of 9/11 are a sober warning that we should prepare for the unexpected before it occurs. H.R. 841 is an important part of that preparation, and it also is a tangible sign to terrorists that they will never intimidate this country, change the nature of this House as the elected representatives of the American people, or keep our government from facing any challenges it may face in the future.
Mr. Speaker, let us wait no longer. Let us move forward. And to that end, I would urge all Members to support this rule and the underlying bill.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the gentleman for his kind words and I look forward to working with him as we move ahead and I learn from him as I already have in the context of the deliberations of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
In closing, I would like to say I believe the debate has been an excellent discussion underlining many of the substantive concerns of both sides of a complex issue. But let us make one thing clear, this bill is about America's security and the way that Congress will deal with a catastrophe of unprecedented proportions. To ignore this basic fact is to ignore the warnings of history and the tragedy of September 11.
Mr. Speaker, today others have placed this debate in the context of election laws and constitutional issues. I appreciate their concerns, but this is not what this legislation is about. It is about establishing an orderly procedure to ensure the continuity of the House in the aftermath of a catastrophic event. The potential for this was underlined by what occurred on September 11. We cannot ignore those facts or ignore the realities and dangers of a changed international and geopolitical environment. To do so would be irresponsible.
Amendment Offered by Mr. Cole of Oklahoma
Mr. Speaker, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Speaker, I want to take this opportunity to briefly describe this amendment before going further.
This amendment makes in order another amendment to take one more step toward satisfying the concerns of the minority and the Senate by extending the time limits by which States can hold elections. It is a short extension, but useful in that it allows States to phase their election plans over 7 even weeks. To that end I would urge my colleagues to support this fair rule and the underlying legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and move the previous question on the amendment and on the resolution.
The previous question was ordered.
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 334 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 334 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Matsui), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only.
(Mr. LINCOLN DIAZ-BALART of Florida asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, H. Res. 334 is a structured rule that provides for the consideration of H.R. 2985, the fiscal year 2006 Legislative Branch Appropriations Act, as well as five amendments. The rule provides for one hour of general debate equally divided and controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member on the Committee on Appropriations. It also provides for one motion to recommit with or without instructions.
Mr. Speaker, the legislation before us today appropriates $2.87 billion for the operations of the legislative branch of government. The bill is fiscally sound and includes a modest 1.7 percent increase from the last fiscal year. It provides over a billion dollars for the operation of this House of Representatives.
This includes funds for Members' representational allowances, leadership, and committee offices. These funds will help our Members fulfill their duties to legislate, represent their constituencies, and oversee the executive branch. These funds are very important in that they provide for that possibility, which is constitutionally mandated, Mr. Speaker, oversight of the executive branch. The Constitution grants Congress broad powers that include the oversight power. This includes getting to know what the executive branch is doing, how programs are being administered, by whom and at what cost, and whether officials are obeying the law and complying with legislative intent.
For the Capitol Police, the bill appropriates over $239 million. Also included is an Inspector General for the Capitol Police to help them with their financial management.
The bill also includes an important piece of legislation, H.R. 841, the Continuity in Representation Act of 2005. As we all know, on September 11, 2001, Flight 93 was headed toward Washington, D.C. If it were not for the truly heroic acts of the passengers on that flight, we could have been facing a situation where Congress would not have been able to function.
We have to do everything possible, Mr. Speaker, to prevent this from being a possibility even in the future. H.R. 841 would accelerate elections in case of a terrorist attack on the House of Representatives, in case such a terrorist attack left the House with over 100 vacancies. It provides for the expedited special election of new Members to fill seats left vacant in extraordinary circumstances.
The House of Representatives passed this bill earlier this year by an overwhelming bipartisan margin of 329-68. In the 108th Congress, the House passed a similar bill, H.R. 2844, by a vote of 306-97. However, each time the Senate has failed to consider this vital piece of legislation. I think it is time that we have legislation that can handle such a horrible possibility and does not leave our constitutional duty to legislate and oversee in limbo.
Mr. Speaker, H.R. 2985 was introduced by Chairman Lewis and reported out of the Appropriations Committee on June 20 by voice vote. It is a good bill, essential to our continued ability to legislate, to our power of oversight, and to the continuity of our government. I would like to thank the chairman and the ranking member of the Appropriations Committee for their leadership on this important issue, as well as the subcommittee. I urge my colleagues to support both the rule and the underlying legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
This is an eminently fair rule. With regard to the issue of the continuity of government, twice before legislation has been brought to the floor on that issue, and there has been an extensive debate. So we certainly feel that the House has had a sufficient and very fair opportunity to consider this issue. In addition, as I stated before, the legislation we are bringing to the floor today includes H.R. 841, the Continuity in Representation Act of 2005, that is very specific on this issue. One of the great leaders in the House on the issue of making certain that even in a time, God forbid, of great crisis again in the Nation and specifically in the Congress, the Congress can function, is the chairman of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, I yield such time as he may consume to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier), chairman of the Committee on Rules.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
We are bringing forth a very important appropriations bill today, with an issue that has received a tremendous amount of discussion and study and debate and actually has been voted on twice in overwhelming fashions by this House favorably. The last time, in the 108th Congress, the measure on the continuity of government, specifically of this House, which is included in the underlying legislation, had passed with 329 favorable votes and only 68 negative votes. Mr. Speaker, 122 of our friends on the other side of the aisle voted for this piece of legislation.
By the way, the rule, Mr. Speaker, by which we bring forth this legislation, also is permitting, as an amendment, a motion to strike that legislation by the distinguished gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird). His alternative was debated previously in this Congress and received 63 votes; and we are, as I say, we are permitting him, under this rule, to strike, if he has the provision on the continuity of the House. So we are bringing this legislation forth in a very fair way.
In addition to the very important legislation which is included that has to do with, as we have heard debate about today, that has to do with continuity of this House in case of an emergency, the underlying legislation also provides for the funding of the legislative branch of government, and it does so in an efficient and effective way, and in a way which I think deserves the support of the entire membership of this House.
So, Mr. Speaker, I ask for the support of our colleagues for the rule and the underlying legislation being brought forth by the rule.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman from California for yielding me this time. Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule. Regrettably, although the Rules Committee apparently found it in order…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman from California for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the rule. Regrettably, although the Rules Committee apparently found it in order to allow in the continuity of Congress aspect, it did not make in order an amendment that I offered to establish a special commission, a committee, to investigate the awarding and carrying out of contracts to conduct activities in Afghanistan and Iraq. This amendment is critical toward ensuring that we effectively exercise our congressional oversight responsibilities.
Congress has already appropriated some $277 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and that does not include the $45 billion in so-called bridge funding which was part of the defense appropriations bill which passed the House on Monday. We have
repeatedly and rightfully recognized that we have to meet the operational, technical, and equipment needs of our troops that are stationed over in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is paramount.
However, the fact of the matter is that when it comes to ensuring that those funds that we have appropriated for that purpose are properly managed and monitored, Congress has been largely silent.
I am heartened the gentleman from Connecticut's (Mr. Shays) subcommittee held a hearing yesterday, and I am heartened that the Committee on Armed Services held a hearing in a subcommittee back in 2004. But that is not nearly the amount of activity this Congress should be taking. We must do much better. Every single dollar that is wasted or lost in Iraq and Afghanistan because of mismanagement or fraud in contracting is one less dollar that can go to protect our troops, one less dollar for body armor, and one less dollar for protective equipment that can save lives.
To that point, on Monday the Boston Globe cited the Marine Corps Inspector General's report and reported that the estimated 30,000 Marines in Iraq need twice as many heavy machine guns, more fully protected armored vehicles, and more communications equipment to operate in a region the size of Utah.
One of the functions of this select committee that is proposed would be to see that our soldiers are properly equipped to carry out their mission. In fact, the original Truman Committee that was put in place during World War II is believed to have saved thousands of lives as the result of its success in cutting through the bureaucracy and making sure that effective weapons and other war supplies were not a part of the problem in that enterprise. The bottom line in this Congress, however, is that we have not lived up to our oversight responsibilities. We have abdicated them. We have relied on the administration to perform that role for us, and they have not done it, and we have shunned our responsibilities.
Here is their most recent record: In March and early April, we learned that the Pentagon auditors found that $212 million was paid to Kuwaiti and Turkish subcontractors for fuel that the Pentagon auditors concluded was exorbitantly priced. Halliburton then passed those payments on to the taxpayer. In late April, according to the Washington Post, the Government Accountability Office found that officials from the Departments of Defense and Interior who were charged with overseeing a contract to provide interrogators at Abu Ghraib ``did not fully carry out their roles and responsibilities, the contractor was allowed to play a role in the procurement process normally performed by the government.''
In May, the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction found that out of $119.9 million allocated for rebuilding projects, $96.6 million could not be sufficiently documented or fully accounted for at all.
In June, a Committee on Government Reform report, prepared by the gentleman from California's (Mr. Waxman) staff, cited an instance of $600 million in cash being shipped from Baghdad to four regions in Iraq to allow commanders flexibility to fund local reconstruction projects. An audit of one of the four regions found that more than 80 percent of the funds could not be properly accounted for and that over $7 million was simply missing.
A pattern exists here, whether it is revenues from the Iraqi oil sales or whether it is funds from the pockets of the American taxpayers. We are not taking our responsibility, and flagrant lack of contractor and bureaucratic accountability is taking place under our eyes. If we do not sufficiently account for these measures and have vigorous congressional oversight, how can we assure that our troops are going to get sufficient protection and that our taxpayers' interests will be protected?
My colleagues know that this is not the first time that we have had this amendment on the floor. They have now had at least four opportunities to stand up and be accountable to the American taxpayer, to make sure that our troops are protected. In every instance it has been essentially a party-line vote, with only two Members of the majority standing up for the rights of the taxpayer and the rights of our troops in this instance.
It is difficult to fathom that tomorrow this majority is going to bring on the floor of this House a bill for Health and Human Services and Education where they are going to cut to the bone, saying that there is no money. There will be less money for Pell grants for kids that want to go to college. There will be less money for elementary and secondary schools. We will fall further behind in our commitments to No Child Left Behind. We will not fund appropriate health care costs, like health clinics. We will not even fund the President's own commitment to high school reform and to community colleges. All, ostensibly, because there is no money. And yet the majority in this Congress refuses to do the oversight on over almost $300 billion where we know there have been flagrant abuses.
We need to do the right thing in this Congress. This is time for us to take the previous question, defeat it, make sure that this amendment comes on the floor. We will give them yet another opportunity to show that this House will live up to its responsibilities and protect the integrity of this fine institution.
I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on the previous question.
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to support H.R. 841, the Continuity in Representation Act, introduced by my distinguished colleague, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner. H.R. 841…
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to support H.R. 841, the Continuity in Representation Act, introduced by my distinguished colleague, House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner. H.R. 841 provides a practical and constitutional way to ensure that the House of Representatives can continue to operate in the event that more than 100 Members are killed, H.R. 841 thus protects the people's right to choose their Representatives at the time when such a right may be most important, while ensuring continuity of the legislative branch.
Article I section 2 of the United States Constitution grants State governors the authority to hold special elections to fill vacancies in the House of Representatives. Article I, section 4 of the Constitution gives Congress the authority to designate the time, place and manner of such special elections if States should fail to act expeditiously following a national emergency. Alexander Hamilton, who played a major role in the drafting and ratification of the United States Constitution, characterized authority over Federal elections as shared between the States and Congress, with neither being able to control the process entirety. H.R. 841 exercises Congress's power to regulate the time, place and manner of elections by requiring the holding of special elections within 45 days after the Speaker or Acting Speaker declares 100 Members of the House have been killed.
I have no doubt that the people of the States are quite competent to hold elections in a timely fashion. After all, it is in each State's interest to ensure it has adequate elected representation in Washington. The version of H.R. 841 before Congress today was drafted with input from State elections commissioners to make sure it sets realistic goals and will not unduly burden State governments.
I am disappointed that some of my colleagues reject the sensible approach of H.R. 841 and instead support amending the Constitution to allow appointed Members to serve in this body. Allowing appointed Members to serve in ``the people's house'' will fundamentally alter the nature of this institution and sever the people's most direct connection with their government.
Even with the direct election of Senators, the fact that Members of the House are elected every 2 years while Senators run for statewide office every 6 years means that Members of the House of Representatives are still more accountable to the people than members of any other part of the Federal Government. Appointed Members of Congress simply cannot be truly representative. James Madison and Alexander Hamilton eloquently made this point in Federalist 52:
As it is essential to liberty that the government in
general should have a common
interest with the people, so it is particularly essential
that the branch of it under consideration should have an
immediate dependence on, and an intimate sympathy with, the
people. Frequent elections are unquestionably the only policy
by which this dependence and sympathy can be effectively
secured.
Mr. Chairman, there are those who say that the power of appointment is necessary in order to preserve checks and balances and thus prevent an abuse of executive power during a time of crisis. Of course, I agree that it is very important to carefully guard our constitutional liberties in times of crisis and that an over-centralization of power in the executive branch is one of the most serious dangers to that liberty. However, Mr. Chairman, during a time of crisis it is all the more important to have Representatives accountable to the people. Otherwise, the citizenry has no check on the inevitable tendency of government to infringe on the people's liberties at such a time. I would remind my colleagues that the only reason we are considering reexamining provisions of the PATRIOT Act is because of public concerns that this act gives up excessive liberty for a phantom security. Appointed officials would not be as responsive to public concerns.
Supporters of amending the Constitution claim that the appointment power will be necessary in the event of an emergency and that the appointed Representatives will only be temporary. However, the laws passed by these ``temporary'' Representatives will be permanent.
Mr. Chairman, this country has faced the possibility of threats to the continuity of this body several times in our history. Yet no one suggested removing the people's right to vote for Members of Congress. For example, the British in the War of 1812 attacked the city of Washington, yet nobody suggested the States could not address the lack of a quorum in the House of Representatives through elections. During the Civil War, the neighboring State of Virginia, where today many Capitol Hill staffers reside and many Members stay while Congress is in session, was actively involved in hostilities against the United States Government. Yet, Abraham Lincoln never suggested that non-elected persons serve in the House. Adopting any of the proposals to deny the people the ability to choose their own Representatives would let the terrorists know that they can succeed in altering our republican institutions. I hope all my colleagues who are considering rejecting H.R. 841 in favor of a constitutional amendment will question the wisdom of handing terrorists a preemptive victory over republican government.
As noted above, the Framers gave Congress all the tools it needs to address problems of mass vacancies in the House without compromising this institution's primary function as a representative body. In fact, as Hamilton explains in Federalist 59, the ``time, place, and manner'' clause was specifically designed to address the kind of extraordinary circumstances imagined by those who support amending the Constitution.
In conclusion, I urge my colleagues to support H.R. 841, the Continuity in Representation Act, which ensures an elected Congress can continue to operate in the event of an emergency. This is what the drafters of the Constitution intended. Furthermore, passage of H.R. 841 sends a strong message to terrorists that they cannot alter our republican government.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the distinguished gentleman from California, the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, for yielding me this time; and I want to congratulate him on the fine work that he…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the distinguished gentleman from California, the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, for yielding me this time; and I want to congratulate him on the fine work that he has done, not only on this legislation, but on all of the appropriations bills.
We have debated this issue, Mr. Chairman. We debated this issue in the 108th Congress. We have had three markups on this issue, two in the Committee on House Administration, one in the Committee on the Judiciary, and we had 122 Democrats who joined with us in support of a responsible piece of legislation which, in fact, encourages the Madisonian vision of an elected people's House.
Now, I heard my friend from Wisconsin talk about the fact that if we are going to pass this legislation, he would support it if we went ahead with a constitutional amendment. It was the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Appropriations who just said we had that debate. Sixty-three Members of this House chose to support a constitutional amendment. The only reason that we are here at this moment having this debate is that the other body has refused, last year and since March of this year, to proceed with acting on this House's housekeeping
matter. It is a housekeeping matter for the House of Representatives to maintain the process of elections.
Now, I think that if we look at the debate that we have had, if we look at the fact that we have continued since September 11 of 2001 to focus on a wide range of matters that impact this institution and the challenge that we never faced in our history, I believe that having this very important legislation that was passed by a margin of 329 in this Congress, 329 to 68, that including it now in the legislative appropriations bill is the most appropriate way to deal with it.
We chose in the Committee on Rules to allow the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) to have an opportunity to strike this measure; and in just a few minutes, we are going to, once again, have a vote on whether or not we allow the process of elections to go ahead.
Now, it is very true, it is very true that it would be difficult, it would be messy, it would be ugly; but Walter Dellinger, the former Solicitor General, a great constitutional scholar from Duke University, made it very clear in his testimony before the Committee on Rules, when we talked about this issue, that he would prefer to see a House of Representatives that is comprised of fewer Members that are actually elected by the people than would be appointed.
Now, my friend from Washington State talks about the fact that these appointed people would be running our country and we would not have elected people. Under the constitutional amendment that my friend supports, we could see this institution, the people's House, consist of individuals who are appointed making decisions over those who are elected; and I think that is counter to the entire intention that was put forward by the Framers of our Constitution.
So when this comes up, I am going to urge a ``no'' vote on the Baird amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I seek the time in opposition.
Mr. Chairman, I would like to begin by yielding 2 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Sensenbrenner), the distinguished chairman of the Judiciary Committee, with whom I have been very pleased to work on this issue really since September 11, 2001.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of the time.
Mr. Chairman, James Madison said the problems of democracy are solved with more democracy. Now, we regularly talk about the fact that the worst, the worst attack on our soil, was what took place on September 11, 2001.
And it is very true that that is the case for what has happened in modern times. But I would like to remind my colleagues that the Civil War was a very tough time for the United States of America. In fact, the Battle of Antietam saw Southern troops get within miles of this Capitol.
The President of the United States, Abraham Lincoln, made a very firm decision at that point: Proceed with elections. He felt it very important that the American people have an opportunity to participate through elections.
Now, when we think of the unthinkable, a tragic attack which would be launched against the United States of America, what is it that the people would do? Well, obviously, one would think about feeding and clothing their family, ensuring that they have a roof over their head.
And, Mr. Chairman, a very important part of coming together following a tragedy is the important role of choosing one's leaders. Now, I do not believe that appointed Members should be making the decision in the people's House. Yes, they can do that as Members of the other body. Yes, that can even happen for the Chief Executive of the country.
But in the people's House, no one has ever served here in our more than 200-year history without having first been elected. And this notion of creating a scenario whereby people could serve in the people's House without having first been elected is anathema to the entire basis on which the United States of America was founded.
We would have to deal with a crisis, but we would come up with a compromise. Forty-nine days is the amount of time during which people could come together and hold elections and have their representative, that is why we are called representatives, their representative could come here and have the chance to serve.
It is very clear to me that the House of Representatives has, as has been said, spoken. Sixty-three Members of 435 voted in favor of our proceeding with a constitutional amendment. Sixty-three Members for a constitutional amendment. We know that it takes a two-thirds vote. We found that out earlier today. And obviously that is not what the people's House wants.
And so, Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues to reject the Baird amendment, and create an opportunity for us to let the other body act on a House provision which is so vitally important to the deliberative nature of this great body.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend for yielding me this time and thank him for his very strong commitment to this institution and our country. That is really what this legislation is all about. The…
Mr. Speaker, I thank my friend for yielding me this time and thank him for his very strong commitment to this institution and our country. That is really what this legislation is all about. The legislative branch appropriations bill is about the funding for the first branch of government. People often do not focus attention on the realization that article 1 of the U.S. Constitution is in fact the first branch, and we have a very important constitutional responsibility, and that is what this legislation is all about.
As we looked at addressing this rule, it is a very fair and balanced rule which makes in order five amendments, makes in order amendments that will allow for the opportunity to address a wide range of issues that we obviously have a responsibility to address institutionally.
One of the amendments that we chose to make in order is an amendment that was offered by our friend, the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird). I believe it important that he again have an opportunity to address an issue that, frankly, has already been addressed by this institution. It has to do with the question of the continuity of Congress. As we sit here, I was just in a meeting with the Attorney General a few minutes ago, Mr. Speaker, and we were talking about September 11 and the PATRIOT Act and the challenges with which we contend on a regular basis, and one of the great tragic challenges that we do not even like to ponder is what would happen if there were to be an attack that would hit this building and that would see the loss of large numbers of Members of the people's House, the United States House of Representatives.
We passed, with nearly every Republican and 122 Democrats supporting, legislation that we call the Continuity of Congress legislation. It calls for special elections to be held on an expedited basis in the districts, where, when we have seen in excess of 100 Members of the United States House of Representatives killed, it would kick into place the structure that would allow for those special elections to take place in those States across the country that have been impacted.
Again, we do not like to think about this, we do not like to think about the possibility of this kind of attack, but we have a responsibility. We have a responsibility to this institution, to the Constitution, and to the American people to do just that. So what we have done is we have said, hold these elections, plan for these elections, and then the United States House of Representatives will remain exactly what it was envisaged as by James Madison, the Father of our Constitution.
He is the author, wrote the Constitution, and spent a great deal of time thinking about these issues. And one of the things that he was very careful about was in realizing that every single Federal office that exists can see someone attain that office by appointment. We all know that in the other body, the United States Senate, the body of the States, if a vacancy occurs, if someone resigns, if they are killed, pass away, whatever, if there is a vacancy, the Governors of States make those appointments.
We all learned in 1973 with the resignation of Spiro Agnew as Vice President that the then-minority leader in the House of Representatives, Gerald Ford, was, by appointment, made Vice President, and then when the resignation of President Nixon took place in 1974, Gerald Ford became President of the United States, having never had a single vote cast for him by the American people other than confirmation in the United States Senate.
The House of Representatives is the only Federal office where you must be elected by the people to serve. That is why this Madisonian vision of making sure that this is the body of the people was maintained. That is what the legislation that we have passed again with a very strong bipartisan vote here is designed to accomplish.
Unfortunately, since March, we have seen this legislation languish in the Senate, and we have not been able to have the kind of success that we believe is important to get what is a House issue addressed. It is not even a Senate issue. It is an issue for the House of Representatives. So what we have done is we have decided that the Appropriations Committee in its great wisdom include this continuity of Congress legislation with the legislative branch appropriations bill. I believe that in so doing, when we pass this bill to the Senate, we will have a chance to put into place very, very important continuity legislation for this institution.
The gentleman from Washington (Mr. Baird) sees it differently. He would like to amend the U.S. Constitution, an amendment to the Constitution that would call for Members of the House of Representatives to serve here in a way that is other than an elective capacity. They would be appointed to serve here. I just think that that goes clearly against James Madison's vision for this institution, and I hope very much that we are able to maintain the language that has passed again with strong bipartisan support and is included in this.
But there will be an amendment that is offered by the gentleman from Washington to strike that, and I am going to urge my colleagues to oppose that amendment that he will be offering.
Again, if you look at the level of funding that we have for the legislative branch appropriations bill, it is actually lower than was requested by the President in his budget. So this is a very fiscally responsible bill. I believe that it is a correct measure for us to take. I urge support of this rule, it makes a number of amendments in order, and support of the bill itself.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time. A few moments ago, the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules was here, and I want to begin by expressing my appreciation…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this time.
A few moments ago, the distinguished chairman of the Committee on Rules was here, and I want to begin by expressing my appreciation that my amendment will be made in order to extract what I believe is an inappropriate clause inserted by the majority. The gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey), I think, articulated the issue well. It is true that we had a vote in this Congress already on the issue of the continuity of the Congress, but it is also true that there was not a hearing on various opportunities to solve this problem. Essentially one version of the bill was brought forward without adequate hearing. I was present at the markup of my own bill. The distinguished chair of the Committee on the Judiciary did not allow me to even speak to my own bill, though he mischaracterized it.
Now, what the majority is doing is taking what is clearly legislative, and it is consequential legislation; let us be clear about this. What they are doing is taking legislation that provides for how we would replace this very body. Many of us, myself, the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher), and others, tried to get this body, tried to get the leadership to say that we would have an open debate on multiple proposals, multiple proposals, with full amendments and full debate by this entire body. We are now years post-September 11. This body still does not have an adequate plan to ensure that every person in this country will have representation if this body is eliminated. Indeed, this body is fully willing, according to the clause in this legislation today and appropriately placed in this legislation, to allow the executive branch to function completely unfettered.
I have to say to the distinguished gentleman from California, the chair of the Committee on Rules said I was contrary to Madison. Possibly so, in some ways; but I would warrant that he is even more contrary because Mr. Madison was absolutely clear that the fundamental principles of checks and balances are a core of this great Republic. The legislation being proposed by the majority would undermine that principle of checks and balances.
More importantly still, the average American needs to understand that this body is considering legislation which would prohibit them from having representation in the Congress and prohibit the Congress from having a check on the executive at a time of national crisis, and that is disastrous. If Members care about this body, if they believe in the principles of checks and balances, they should reject this clause, support the Baird amendment. They should insist not that we ram this through on an inappropriate appropriations bill, where it should not belong, but that we have a full and open debate with our colleagues from the other body.
I have to tell the Members that when I go home and talk to my constituents, and I would ask the Members to do this: Ask their constituents if they are comfortable, knowing that three or four people could serve as the House of Representatives under the rules we passed, which I believe are blatantly unconstitutional, if they believe that three or four people should be able to elect a Speaker of the House, that that person should then become the President of the United States, could declare martial law with absolutely no checks and no representation of hundreds of millions of Americans at the time that happens.
This is irresponsible. Madison and Jefferson and the rest would be spinning in their graves if they knew what you are up to here.
It is not just about germaneness, but that reason alone should cause Members to support the Baird amendment.
A matter of this importance should not be attached to an appropriations bill as a way to try to jam it through the Senate. It simply should not be.
Mr. Speaker, we owe it to posterity, we owe it to this institution to solve this problem, to solve it properly, and this amendment that I have introduced would at least prevent us from doing something bad. First, do no harm.
My friend, the gentleman from California, is wrong when he suggests that we are contrary to Madison.
Let me underscore the agenda here. The chairman of the Subcommittee on the Constitution of the Committee on the Judiciary of the United States House of Representatives said on this matter, we are going to have martial law anyway, we are going to have martial law anyway, so we do not need continuity provisions.
If that is your agenda, be straight with the American people. If that is the agenda, let us go home now. If that is the agenda, to believe that when our Nation has been attacked, we are going to leave the American people without representation, without a House of Representatives, with the Senate functioning without a House because they can be replaced more promptly, with an unelected President, probably a cabinet member serving, if you believe we would solve this problem, you are kidding yourselves. You can kid yourselves, but history will not look kindly upon this body if we have shirked our obligation. And passage of this legislation today with this provision in it is an insult to the Framers and an insult to the principles of representative democracy.
Vote ``no'' on the bill; vote ``yes'' on the Baird amendment.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Florida for yielding me this time, and I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Ms. MATSUI asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Florida for yielding me this time, and I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Ms. MATSUI asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, we are here to debate the rule governing the debate for the fiscal year 2006 legislative branch appropriations measure. Through this bill, we will fund the operations for our institution and the many supporting bodies that we rely upon, such as the Library of Congress, the Government Accountability Office, and the Congressional Budget Office.
While I will ultimately support the underlying bill, I would first like to address a few aspects of the rule about which I have serious concerns, specifically, the committee's addition of legislative language providing for the continuity of Congress. One of the results of September 11, and we all agree, is that we need a mechanism to allow States to replace Members of Congress in the event of a major disaster. However, adding continuity language in the manner we are today is inappropriate.
While I am pleased that the Rules Committee voted to allow debate on the Baird amendment to remove this language from the bill, I am disappointed that this language was included in the bill at all. Legislation that will have a major impact on the representation of the American people, as this language unquestionably will, should be completely and thoroughly debated in an atmosphere conducive to debate. This proposal should be addressed in the same way any other authorizing legislation would be and as it was when the House passed this measure earlier this year in a stand-alone bill.
But the Republican leadership has decided otherwise, and I raise the question that if we are to discuss this weighty issue today, why then would the Rules Committee not allow an amendment by the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney) which would set up a select committee to look into contracting abuses in the Iraq war? To date, $9 billion is missing or unaccounted for in appropriated funds for the Iraq war. This is an issue of equal significance, especially as we consider the tight budget constraints Congress faces.
Regardless of how one would vote on the amendment itself, this idea deserves the same consideration and debate as the continuity of Congress measure. I am disappointed that this amendment was not made in order as well.
Mr. Speaker, I look forward to resuming the debate on the issue of the continuity of Congress.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Washington State (Mr. Baird).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Speaker, I will be asking Members to vote ``no'' on the previous question. If the previous question is defeated, I will offer an amendment to allow the House to consider the Tierney amendment on the Truman Commission that got defeated in the Committee on Rules last night by a straight party-line vote.
I ask unanimous consent that the text of the amendment be printed in the Congressional Record immediately prior to the vote on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, the Tierney amendment will establish a select committee to investigate the awarding and carrying out of war- related contracts in Afghanistan and Iraq. In 1941, with the United States engaged in a major military buildup as part of World War II, Senator Harry Truman, a Democrat from Missouri, became aware of widespread stories of contractor mismanagement in military contracts and created a committee to investigate such spending.
Since 2003, there have been many examples of the misuse of American taxpayer dollars and Iraqi contracting. Nearly $9 billion on money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to the Special Inspector General for Iraqi Reconstruction. Ensuring vigilant oversight of
taxpayer dollars should not be a partisan issue. The Truman Committee was created while Democrats controlled the White House, the House, and the Senate. We owe it to American taxpayers and to our brave soldiers to oversee how the billions of taxpayer dollars are being spent in Iraq and Afghanistan. A new Truman Committee would allow us to get the facts on U.S. contracting in both military and reconstruction activities and to fix whatever problems exist.
As always, Members should know that a ``no'' vote on the previous question will not stop consideration of the legislative branch appropriation bill. A ``no'' vote will allow the House to create a much-needed select committee to investigate government contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan. But a ``yes'' vote on the previous question will prevent the House from establishing this important select committee.
Again, vote ``no'' on the previous question.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I object to the vote on the ground that a quorum is not present and make the point of order that a quorum is not present.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from California for yielding me this time. I wanted to speak on this bill and in support of this bill. As a former chairman of the Legislative Branch Subcommittee,…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentleman from California for yielding me this time.
I wanted to speak on this bill and in support of this bill. As a former chairman of the Legislative Branch Subcommittee, I had the honor of serving as the chairman, along with the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Moran) as ranking member, and during our period of time, holding the gavel for this, we did a lot of reforms, and I think we worked very closely with groups that are well used but underappreciated, such as the Office of Compliance or the Library of Congress or the Government Printing Office. We tried to work with these agencies and come up with some reforms that we thought were helpful, and ideas, and we worked for them.
I wanted to say to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) we did a lot of work on the Capitol Visitors Center. I think we had a lot of good suggestions. Many of those suggestions were adopted by the House in our bill, but unfortunately as the bill progressed through the Chambers and got on the other side, the other body insisted on doing things which we thought could have addressed some of the concerns which he has raised today.
So I want to say the House is on record as trying to get a grip on the Capitol Visitors Center, unfortunately without the cooperation of the Senate.
Another group that we have had a lot of, I will say, growing pains with is the Capitol Hill Police. There are a lot of concerns about making the Capitol campus a fortress. As we walk up here with the eighth grade class from home to be greeted by officers with machine guns on the House steps, it is a little much; and this is something that we have a good discussion about on a Member-to-Member basis, how much security should we have?
The Chief of Police has suggested in the past, several times, that we build a wall all around the Capitol, to which, on a bipartisan basis, we have rejected the notion; and yet a wall is not just made out of bricks and mortars but can, in fact, be made out of human beings, and I think to some degree we do have that boundary right now.
And that is why it is perplexing to me that the Chief of Police would insist on a mounted horse unit, a unit which the House had decided was not cost efficient in the past and had cut out. This year the bill does not fund the horse mounted unit, and I think that it should remain that way. I know that there is going to be an amendment to restore it, but if we look at the strategic plan of the Capitol Hill Police, they do not even mention their own horse mounted unit. In fact, to quote the GAO report, it says: ``Upon review of the draft United States Capitol Hill Police Strategic Plan for FY 2004 to 2008, and the United States Capitol Threat Assessment, it is unclear how the horse mounted unit supports the Capitol Hill Police strategic mission or how the horse mounted unit would be deployed against threats to the Capitol, because there is no mention of the horse mounted unit in the documents.''
The point is that if the Capitol Hill Police feel that the horses are so important, why are they not mentioning it in their strategic plan? Last year during the debate on this, it was suggested they are better for crowd control. But we do not have crowd control problems here at the Capitol. We do not have demonstrations. We do not have rock concerts. We do not have large masses of people who are coming out to watch or participate in an exhibit. We do have lines of people. We do have lots of people, but mounted police are used best on queuing up large groups of people and pushing back crowds, and that is a threat that we just frankly do not have.
But what is the cost of this? Their budget calls for $145,000, they say, and we get free rent. But they do not mention that the stable for these horses is 20 miles away from the United States Capitol and that each day not only do the horses have to commute, and Members know what stress that must be on the horses because, good gosh, we have to put up for that, and I do not remember the horses being allowed to get on the Metro system.
But in addition to the horses having to commute, so does the manure. That is right. We have a gigantic pooper-scooper program for the mounted horses, that not only do they come here commuting like the rest of us, but then somebody has to follow behind them, I guess with a baggy from Safeway, as they do in the neighborhoods down in Alexandria. But they have to haul manure off campus at a cost, Mr. Chairman, of $53,000 a year. And for what? To keep some guys on horses in a very tight, small area. This is not acres and acres of land that goes all the way to the Washington Monument. This is a confined area called the United States Capitol.
This is just one of the reforms that this House has gone on record of supporting. This bill does support it now. I think that we should pass the bill as it has been passed by the committee.
I do want to say one other thing. I am supporting the bill. I do think that the committee has done a good job on continuing a lot of the reforms that are in it.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the ranking member of the Committee on Appropriations for yielding me this time, but most particularly for his leadership. The gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) made several…
Mr. Chairman, I thank the ranking member of the Committee on Appropriations for yielding me this time, but most particularly for his leadership.
The gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) made several points. Some of them were consistent with the comments of the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. LaHood) that there are a lot of good things about this institution and the facilities that we fund.
But the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey) pointed out some of the concerns that many of us share over the Capitol Visitors Center. I share those concerns as well, having been the ranking member of the legislative branch subcommittee before it was incorporated in the full committee. We raised these, the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Kingston), and I.
It is not meant to be argumentative, but we have created a situation where
the Capitol Visitors Center is going to create some substantial problems in the future. We have a facility that is going to cost well over what was originally estimated. The original estimate was $165 million. We are now over half a billion dollars. We were going to try to get private money. It is all Federal money now, of course. We were going to have it ready for the January 2005 inauguration. Obviously, we are way behind schedule; but that happens in a lot of construction projects.
We recognize this is going to be completed, and there will be a number of things that we will be proud to show. But some of these situations are going to cause more problems than they are worth. For example, we are creating an enormous capacity for visitors. One would think that would be a good thing, but what is going to wind up happening, they are going to be given a virtual tour of the Capitol. The reason for that is we have the capacity for twice as many people to come into that Capitol Visitors Center as can ever come into the Capitol itself.
Now, do you want to be the Member who tells your constituents, after traveling from any place in the United States, and for many of them it takes a whole day to get here, they stay here, they are all excited and they get to the Capitol Visitors Center and want to go to the Capitol and you have to tell them well, actually, there is no room?
Half of the people coming into the Capitol Visitors Center are probably going to have to be informed there is no room in the actual Capitol for you to be able to make a visit today. That is a substantial problem. I think we should have figured that out. I am glad we have capacity; but, again, is it consistent with our real objective, which is to enable all our constituents to see the U.S. Capitol itself?
The taxpayer is paying for this. A lot of the decisions have really not been made by the Members as much as staff, I have to say. It is not the staff of the appropriations subcommittee that has made those decisions, but we have got some major concerns. I think they are well- founded concerns.
I want to raise one now, though, that is not a matter of legislation, but it is one that has been brought to my attention as cochair of the Congressional Prevention Coalition. We have tried to do some things to address public health concerns.
One of them is in regard to smoking. We have a ban on smoking in all Federal buildings but we exempt congressional office spaces. I do not want to change that necessarily, I can understand why there is an exemption in place, but we have a particular problem with the Rayburn cafeteria.
With that, I would like to enter into a colloquy with the chairman of the full committee on this because I do think we need to address it. In the Rayburn cafeteria, the main dining room is overflowing with patrons generally every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday; and so those patrons are forced to spill over into the designated smoking area. The same thing happens when we close the main cafeteria for receptions and special events. Because that main designated area is the only place available on that floor for smoking, it gets pretty asphyxiating according to many of the staff who have contacted me. I think we need to address it because some of these people have real serious health problems in terms of their breathing capabilities; some have asthma and other related problems. They just cannot deal with all of that smoke and they do not have any choice to avoid it given the situation that frequently occurs.
I yield to the chairman of the full committee to see if he has some suggestions in how we could alleviate this problem for the nonsmokers.
I thank the chairman and I thank the interest of Ms. Johnson, the lead staff for the committee on legislative branch issues. Would the chairman be willing to make sure that this gets raised to the appropriate people so we could address it in a constructive way?
I appreciate the gentleman's suggestion. I think we will pursue it in that manner rather than trying to find some legislative solution.
Mr. Speaker, I will be voting against this rule. I will be voting against the previous question on the rule. I will be voting against the bill itself. I will wait until debate on the bill in order to…
Mr. Speaker, I will be voting against this rule. I will be voting against the previous question on the rule. I will be voting against the bill itself. I will wait until debate on the bill in order to explain my vote on the latter.
But let me simply say two things with respect to the rule. The leadership of this House, the Republican leadership of this House, has chosen to insist that their continuity of Congress proposal, which is a totally unrelated matter, be added to the appropriation bill to finance the operations of the Congress. Our committee gave this all of about 10 minutes of consideration. No alternatives were presented. And what that means is that the House Republican leadership is insisting that a bill which the House has already passed once be passed again, because the Senate has declined to take up the bill that the House sent over in the first place.
I think they were wise not to take that bill up. I am in a distinct minority on this proposition. But what this proposition does is to say that, within 45 days of the Speaker's determining that 100 or more vacancies exist in the House, that he will call a special election.
A couple of problems with that. Number one, that means that a national election is left to the discretion of and to the timing selected by the Speaker. I do not think that is appropriate. Secondly, it means that for that 45-day period, if there are 100 vacancies in the House because of death and destruction associated with an attack, for instance, it means that those 100 districts would be unrepresented at a time when the most crucial decisions affecting the continuation of the Republic would be made. I do not think that is a good idea either.
If we are going to be forced to vote on any of those propositions, then, even though I am a Democrat, I much prefer the alternative presented by the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher), a Republican. The alternative that he presented in the last session of Congress would have provided that each and every year when we are elected, we also have to supply a list of persons whom we feel are most qualified to take our place if something happens and we are killed by such a disastrous attack. I would submit to the Members that it is far more appropriate to have someone who is revealed ahead of time to be the person of choice in case a tragedy like that happened. I would suggest that is a far healthier situation than to have a situation in which a district was unrepresented for 45 days.
The gentleman from California (Mr. Dreier) suggested that it was important to maintain the distinction the House has that one must be elected in order to serve in this body. Well, obviously I would much prefer to have an elected person representing my district, but an appointed official is preferable to no one at all. And yet that is
what we are stuck with under this misbegotten attachment that the House leadership is insisting that we add to this bill in a power play. So that is one reason I oppose this rule.
The second reason is that the Committee on Rules steadfastly refused to make in order the creation of a Truman-like committee to review waste and fraud in the war in Iraq. When Franklin Roosevelt was running this country, Harry Truman was appointed to lead a congressional review committee. Truman held 430 hearings. He issued 51 reports. A Democratic Congress investigating the activities in a Democratic administration. It was good for the Democratic Party. It was good for the Republican Party. It was good for the Republic. A lot of money was saved. A lot of chicanery was exposed and corrected.
But here we have horror story after horror story of waste, incompetence, fraud, theft in Iraq, all of the taxpayers' money. And yet what does this Congress do? Virtually zip in terms of the oversight that it is providing on these matters.
I think this Congress is derelict in its duty by not appointing such a committee. And for that reason alone, I think we ought to vote ``no'' on the previous question so we can change the rule so we can at least provide some protection for the taxpayers' money.
Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
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Calendar No. 61
109th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 841
_______________________________________________________________________
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
March 8, 2005
Received
March 17, 2005
Read the first time
March 19, 2005
Read the second time and placed on the calendar
_______________________________________________________________________
AN ACT
To require States to hold special elections to fill vacancies in the
House of Representatives not later than 49 days after the vacancy is
announced by the Speaker of the House of Representatives in
extraordinary circumstances, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``Continuity in Representation Act of
2005''.
SEC. 2. REQUIRING SPECIAL ELECTIONS TO BE HELD TO FILL VACANCIES IN THE
HOUSE IN EXTRAORDINARY CIRCUMSTANCES.
Section 26 of the Revised Statutes of the United States (2 U.S.C.
8) is amended--
(1) by striking ``The time'' and inserting ``(a) In
General.--Except as provided in subsection (b), the time''; and
(2) by adding at the end the following new subsection:
``(b) Special Rules in Extraordinary Circumstances.--
``(1) In general.--In extraordinary circumstances, the
executive authority of any State in which a vacancy exists in
its representation in the House of Representatives shall issue
a writ of election to fill such vacancy by special election.
``(2) Timing of special election.--A special election held
under this subsection to fill a vacancy shall take place not
later than 49 days after the Speaker of the House of
Representatives announces that the vacancy exists, unless,
during the 75-day period which begins on the date of the
announcement of the vacancy--
``(A) a regularly scheduled general election for
the office involved is to be held; or
``(B) another special election for the office
involved is to be held, pursuant to a writ for a
special election issued by the chief executive of the
State prior to the date of the announcement of the
vacancy.
``(3) Nominations by parties.--If a special election is to
be held under this subsection, the determination of the
candidates who will run in such election shall be made--
``(A) by nominations made not later than 10 days
after the Speaker announces that the vacancy exists by
the political parties of the State that are authorized
by State law to nominate candidates for the election;
or
``(B) by any other method the State considers
appropriate, including holding primary elections, that
will ensure that the State will hold the special
election within the deadline required under paragraph
(2).
``(4) Extraordinary circumstances.--
``(A) In general.--In this subsection,
`extraordinary circumstances' occur when the Speaker of
the House of Representatives announces that vacancies
in the representation from the States in the House
exceed 100.
``(B) Judicial review.--If any action is brought
for declaratory or injunctive relief to challenge an
announcement made under subparagraph (A), the following
rules shall apply:
``(i) Not later than 2 days after the
announcement, the action shall be filed in the
United States District Court having
jurisdiction in the district of the Member of
the House of Representatives whose seat has
been announced to be vacant and shall be heard
by a 3-judge court convened pursuant to section
2284 of title 28, United States Code.
``(ii) A copy of the complaint shall be
delivered promptly to the Clerk of the House of
Representatives.
``(iii) A final decision in the action
shall be made within 3 days of the filing of
such action and shall not be reviewable.
``(iv) The executive authority of the State
that contains the district of the Member of the
House of Representatives whose seat has been
announced to be vacant shall have the right to
intervene either in support of or opposition to
the position of a party to the case regarding
the announcement of such vacancy.
``(5) Protecting ability of absent military and overseas
voters to participate in special elections.--
``(A) Deadline for transmittal of absentee
ballots.--In conducting a special election held under
this subsection to fill a vacancy in its
representation, the State shall ensure to the greatest
extent practicable (including through the use of
electronic means) that absentee ballots for the
election are transmitted to absent uniformed services
voters and overseas voters (as such terms are defined
in the Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting
Act) not later than 15 days after the Speaker of the
House of Representatives announces that the vacancy
exists.
``(B) Period for ballot transit time.--
Notwithstanding the deadlines referred to in paragraphs
(2) and (3), in the case of an individual who is an
absent uniformed services voter or an overseas voter
(as such terms are defined in the Uniformed and
Overseas Citizens Absentee Voting Act), a State shall
accept and process any otherwise valid ballot or other
election material from the voter so long as the ballot
or other material is received by the appropriate State
election official not later than 45 days after the
State transmits the ballot or other material to the
voter.
``(6) Application to district of columbia and
territories.--This subsection shall apply--
``(A) to a Delegate or Resident Commissioner to the
Congress in the same manner as it applies to a Member
of the House of Representatives; and
``(B) to the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth
of Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, and the United
States Virgin Islands in the same manner as it applies
to a State, except that a vacancy in the representation
from any such jurisdiction in the House shall not be
taken into account by the Speaker in determining
whether vacancies in the representation from the States
in the House exceed 100 for purposes of paragraph
(4)(A).
``(7) Rule of construction regarding federal election
laws.--Nothing in this subsection may be construed to affect
the application to special elections under this subsection of
any Federal law governing the administration of elections for
Federal office (including any law providing for the enforcement
of any such law), including, but not limited to, the following:
``(A) The Voting Rights Act of 1965 (42 U.S.C. 1973
et seq.), as amended.
``(B) The Voting Accessibility for the Elderly and
Handicapped Act (42 U.S.C. 1973ee et seq.), as amended.
``(C) The Uniformed and Overseas Citizens Absentee
Voting Act (42 U.S.C. 1973ff et seq.), as amended.
``(D) The National Voter Registration Act of 1993
(42 U.S.C. 1973gg et seq.), as amended.
``(E) The Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990
(42 U.S.C. 12101 et seq.), as amended.
``(F) The Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (29 U.S.C. 701
et seq.), as amended.
``(G) The Help America Vote Act of 2002 (42 U.S.C.
15301 et seq.), as amended.''.
Passed the House of Representatives March 3, 2005.
Attest:
JEFF TRANDAHL,
Clerk.
Calendar No. 61
109th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 841
_______________________________________________________________________
AN ACT
To require States to hold special elections to fill vacancies in the
House of Representatives not later than 49 days after the vacancy is
announced by the Speaker of the House of Representatives in
extraordinary circumstances, and for other purposes.
_______________________________________________________________________
March 19, 2005
Read the second time and placed on calendar