Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 27) to enhance the workforce investment system of the Nation by strengthening one-stop career centers, providing for more effective governance arrangements, promoting access to a more comprehensive array of employment, training, and related services, establishing a targeted approach to serving youth, and improving performance accountability, and for other purposes.
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Mr. Chairman, the question is when is the Congress going to stop letting American businesses and workers down? It is time to roll up our sleeves and chart a path to economic freedom. It is time to…
Mr. Chairman, the question is when is the Congress going to stop letting American businesses and workers down? It is time to roll up our sleeves and chart a path to economic freedom. It is time to govern.
Today the Republicans again ask us to consider a bill with provisions that will make its mark by missing the mark. It inflates government bureaucracy and deflates workers' opportunity. American business needs the best, most qualified workers on earth, but this bill does nothing to reach that goal.
Workers, especially the working poor, need a credible realistic road to economic freedom. This bill is a dead end. Our workforce is in trouble. The ``L.A. Times,'' which I will enter into the Record an article from the ``L.A. Times,'' recently reported that the volatility of income for the working poor has doubled in recent years. Income among the working poor now fluctuates by as much as 50 percent annually. One cannot buy a home with a wild fluctuation like that. One cannot plan for their children's college education with income swings like that, and they are lucky to put food on the table.
Mr. Chairman, we need to rethink the systems we have in place to help workers and employers maximize productivity and profitability. We continue to pursue open trade to open our domestic market to foreign competition, but we are not employing the same vigor toward pursuing the means to ensure that our workforce can compete and be the best trained and equipped in the world. This issue, investing in our workforce, transcends social and economic status.
I represent the 7th District of Washington, Seattle, where the economy is driven by manufacturing as well as by innovation and the service industry. Everyone in these industries is competing for their jobs against someone overseas. Making the proper investments and systems to helping the working poor obtain access to job training and education is even more important.
The so-called Personal Reemployment Accounts compel, compel, unemployed workers to take the first job they can get and forego current job training opportunities. Instead of economic independence, this bill produces economic surrender. We can do better.
We ought to significantly invest in continuing education training programs for people in industries that are challenged by global competition. Furthermore, we ought to seriously consider wage insurance. This would enable the working poor to move into jobs that may begin by paying a little less but have greater opportunities for wage growth and economic stability down the road. This bill, even without the bad provisions such as Personal Reemployment Accounts and the provisions that allow workplace discrimination based on religion, does nothing to meet the new challenges that workers and businesses that rely on them face in the new global economy.
The question again, Mr. Chairman, is when will you tell your chairman to start taking these responsibilities seriously rather than playing politics, as we are here today, putting the same bill before us that we have put here before, we know it is not going anywhere, it is a waste of time, and it does nothing for the workers? This is not even an election year.
[From the Los Angeles Times, Dec. 12, 2004]
The Poor Have More Things Today--Including Wild Income Swings
(By Peter G. Gosselin)
``The poor are not like everyone else,'' social critic
Michael Harrington wrote in the 1962 bestseller ``The Other
America,'' which helped shape President Johnson's War on
Poverty.
``They are a different kind of people,'' he declared.
``They think and feel differently; they look upon a different
America than the middle class.''
How then to account for Elvira Rojas?
The 36-year-old Salvadoran-born dishwasher and her partner,
warehouse worker Jose Maldanado, make barely enough to stay
above the official poverty line--$18,810 last year for a
family of four. But by working two, sometimes three, jobs
between them, they are grabbing at middle-class dreams.
Rojas and Maldanado live in a two-room apartment in
Hawthorne but have china settings for 16 tucked in a wooden
hutch. Their two young daughters receive health coverage
through Medi-Cal but get many of their clothes at Robinsons-
May.
The family struggles to meet its monthly bills but has
taken on a mountain of credit card debt. They have used
plastic to buy a large-screen TV and other luxuries but have
also relied on it to cover bare necessities such as rent and
emergency-room visits.
``That's why I'm really poor even though I work so hard,''
Rojas said with a rueful laugh.
Some see circumstances like Rojas' as testament to the
economic strides that America has made over the last
generation, rather than a reflection of its failures.
``We've won the War on Poverty,'' asserted Robert Rector,
an influential analyst with the Heritage Foundation, a
conservative Washington think tank. ``We've basically
eliminated widespread material deprivation.''
But if deprivation is no longer as big a problem, that
hardly means all is well. In many ways, Rojas is the new face
of the working poor, suffering not so much from a dearth of
possessions as from a cavalcade of chaos--pay cuts and
eviction notices, car troubles and medical crises--that
rattles her finances and nudges her family toward the
economic brink.
In this way, Rojas and millions like her are not--as
Harrington described them--fundamentally different from most
other Americans; they are remarkably similar.
Indeed, today's working poor are experiencing an extreme
version of the economic turbulence that is rocking families
across the income spectrum. And the cause, no matter people's
means, is the same: a quarter-
century-long shift of economic risk by business and
government onto working families.
Protections that Americans, especially poor ones, once
relied on to buffer them from economic setbacks--affordable
housing, stable jobs with good benefits, union membership and
the backstop of cash welfare--have shriveled or been
eliminated. These losses have been only partially offset by
an expansion of programs such as the earned-income tax credit
for the working poor and publicly provided healthcare.
For the most part, the poor have been left to cope on their
own, scrambling from one fragile employment arrangement to
the next, doubling up on housing and borrowing heavily.
``Families up and down the income distribution are bearing
more economic risk than they did 25 or 30 years ago,'' said
Johns Hopkins University economist Robert A. Moffitt. ``But
the increase has been especially dramatic among the working
poor.''
As a result, their earnings are jumping around like never
before.
During the early 1970s, the inflation-adjusted incomes of
most families in the bottom fifth of the economy bounced up
and down no more than 25% a year. By the beginning of this
decade, those annual fluctuations had doubled to as much as
50%, according to statistics generated by the Los Angeles
Times in conjunction with Moffitt and researchers at several
other major universities.
For a family with an income at the 20th percentile--or
roughly $23,000 a year in inflation-adjusted terms--that has
meant recent annual swings of as much as $12,000. Twenty-five
years ago, those swings tended to be no more than $4,300.
The Times' figures are based on the Panel Study of Income
Dynamics, a database funded by the National Science
Foundation and run by the University of Michigan. In contrast
to most economic indicators, which involve taking random
samples of different Americans at different times and
comparing the results, the panel study has followed the same
5,000 nationally representative families and their offshoots
for nearly 40 years.
In supplementing conventional statistics with the panel-
study data, the newspaper has sought to explain why Americans
in rising numbers report being less financially secure, even
as the nation has grown richer overall.
In a nutshell, The Times has found that behind the upward
march of most economic averages are increasingly frequent
instances of financial setback and hardship for a large swath
of the population. Even those in the top-10 percent bracket--
making well over $100,000 a year--have seen their incomes
grow more volatile and therefore prone to steep dives.
But for the country's 20 million working-poor families, the
findings are particularly sobering: They now run the risk of
seeing their incomes slashed by half in any given year.
That's almost double the volatility experienced by families
in the middle of the economic spectrum, the newspaper's
findings show.
``The only way to improve your life if you're poor is to be
very prudent and make very, very few mistakes like getting
fired or splurging and ending up with a lot of debt,'' said
Christopher Jencks, a Harvard University authority on
poverty. ``Most people aren't that prudent.''
Finding a Foothold
Elvira Rojas headed for the U.S. at age 21 in search of two
things that were in short supply in her native EI Salvador:
peace and prosperity.
Combatants in that country's bloody civil war engaged in
firefights outside her family's home in Acajutla, and
Maldanado had received death threats because of his role as a
former military man. In addition, Rojas discovered that the
only job she could get with her high school diploma from El
Instituto Nacional was at the local fish-packing plant.
The pair arrived in L.A. in May 1989. She quickly found
work cleaning houses with two of Maldanado's aunts. He landed
a job at a Hawthorne dry-cleaning plant. Between them, they
made about $200 a week.
But with the average rent on a one-bedroom apartment in the
city then running about $600, they could not afford a first
foothold in their new country--a place of their own to live.
``I felt bad in the beginning because I had nothing,'' Rojas
said. ``I wanted to go home.''
With nowhere else to turn, they moved in with one of
Maldanado's aunts, her five children and four cousins in a
two-bedroom house on Firmona Avenue in Hawthorne. They slept
on the kitchen floor.
As the couple began to make more money, they moved into a
succession of other apartments. Each was a little larger than
the last but still crammed with relatives.
Rojas and Maldanado had few alternatives. During their
first years, they were effectively excluded from Federal rent
subsidies or State help because they were illegal immigrants.
In 1991, the two gained legal status under a program that
allowed people fleeing war in their homelands to be counted
as refugees. But their new standing was thrown into question
in 1994, when California voters approved Proposition 187. The
initiative was designed to cut off state assistance to
undocumented immigrants, but many legal ones interpreted the
measure as a blanket ban aimed at them too.
Rojas, for one, took no chances; she never applied for
housing assistance--or almost any other kind of aid--although
it appears from her Social Security records and tax returns
that she would have qualified. ``I didn't want to be a burden
on the government,'' she explained.
It's probably just as well. By the mid-1990s, the state and
federal governments were winding down most of a six-decade-
long drive to help poor families meet their housing needs.
That effort had begun under President Franklin D. Roosevelt,
who decried the conditions gripping America. ``I see one-
third of a nation ill-housed, ill-clad, ill-nourished,'' he
said in 1937.
In the years that followed, a booming private sector
largely solved the food and clothing problems. And a
combination of financial market innovations and federal power
applied through a battery of agencies--the Veterans
Administration, the Federal Housing Administration, Fannie
Mae and Freddie Mac--greatly expanded home ownership,
especially among the middle class. But that still left what
to do for poor families, most of whom could afford only to
rent.
Washington's first answer was to have the government build
and run housing projects. Some worked. But many degenerated
into vertical ghettos, victimized by disastrous design,
racial and economic segregation, drugs and crime.
In 1974, President Nixon and Congress turned to another
solution: the Section 8 program. Instead of putting up
buildings itself, the government would subsidize private
developers to construct housing and give poor families
vouchers to rent apartments in the open market. But developer
subsidies produced cost overruns and political scandals in
the 1980s and were largely phased out.
That left only the vouchers, which recently have been cut
back. In all, the amount of money that Congress and the
president have authorized to be spent on housing assistance
has plunged by nearly two-thirds in the last 25 years, from
an inflation-adjusted $82 billion in 1978 to $29 billion last
year.
Washington's latest answer has been more laissez-faire:
offer tax breaks for the creation of low-income housing but
otherwise leave it to the marketplace to decide how much gets
built. In hot housing markets such as Southern California's,
little has.
``We've produced tens of thousands of units recently, but
the well's been dry for so long we should have been producing
hundreds of thousands,'' said Jan Breidenbach, executive
director of the Southern California Assn. of Non-Profit
Housing, which represents many of the region's developers of
low-income housing.
In the absence of substantial government help--and with
housing prices soaring beyond the reach of even the middle
class--most working-poor families have been left to fend
for themselves.
By 1997, Rojas and Maldanado thought they had succeeded in
doing that. He was making $5,800 a year at the dry-cleaning
plant. She was making more than $12,000 dashing between a
part-time job at an airline linen service on Prairie Avenue
in Hawthorne and a temporary position with Kelly Services,
packing magazines, perfume and shampoo in samplers for
direct-market mailings.
In the fall of that year, the couple, with another of
Maldanado's aunts and her children, moved into a white stucco
bungalow on Burin Avenue in Inglewood, not far from Los
Angeles International Airport.
Although the house sagged in the middle and had drainage
problems, it featured two kitchens and two living rooms,
plenty of space for each family. The place cost Rojas and
Maldanado $550 a month. That was more than 30% of their
earnings, a level the government considers the outer limit of
affordable, but it was still something they could bear.
The bungalow ``felt good because there were not so many of
us,'' Rojas said. ``It was the most room I've ever had.'' The
following year, the two families celebrated Christmas by
stringing sparkling lights along the structure's faded blue
eaves and inviting neighbors for a party.
Heading West for Work
Albert Grimes arrived in Los Angeles a few years before
Elvira Rojas did, similarly hungry to start over.
He came from Cleveland, where his family was a pillar of
the African American community. His father, ``Big Joe''
Grimes, had returned home from World War II and used the GI
Bill to buy a house. He opened a barbershop, founded a youth
marching band called B.J.'s Raiders and became a kingmaker of
sorts in Cleveland politics.
Albert's uncle, Walter Dicks, ran the municipal workers
union and helped the younger Grimes find a job right out of
high school on a city sanitation truck. It paid about
$15,000, equal to about $30,000 in today's dollars.
But Albert was laid off during one of Cleveland's periodic
fiscal crises. In 1985, at the age of 29, he left home and
headed West. He had no trouble finding work with one of Los
Angeles' big employers.
For most of the postwar era, working Americans could count
on big business even more than big government to provide
safeguards against economic risk. In a reverse of the current
passion for temps, outsourcing and lean workforces, corporate
America felt it had a civic duty to offer full-time jobs with
good wages and solid benefits, even to those like Grimes with
no college education.
``Steady, year-round employment is so right from the
standpoint of the employer, so right from the standpoint of
the workers and so right for the country as a whole . . .
that it is hard to see why we manufacturers have not made
more progress in its application,'' Procter & Gamble Co.
President Richard Deupree told a 1948 audience.
As the decades passed, Los Angeles became the hub of the
nation's aerospace industry; a second home to U.S.
automakers, after Detroit; and a major financial center.
Among the region's largest employers: Lockheed Corp.,
McDonnell Douglas Corp., General Motors Corp., Goodyear Tire
& Rubber Co., First Interstate Bank and Security Pacific
Bank.
By the late 1970s, the typical L.A. County workplace had
nearly 30% more employees than the U.S. average, according to
government statistics--a situation that translated into a
high level of economic security.
``There is a close correlation between firm size,
employment stability and generous compensation,'' said UCLA
economist Sanford Jacoby, who has written extensively about
the new risks that working people face. ``Big firms
underwrote the creation of America's--and Southern
California's--blue-collar middle class.''
As for Grimes, he found his way to Sears, Roebuck & Co.'s
massive warehouse at Olympic Boulevard and Soto Street, where
he was hired as a merchandise handler represented by the
Teamsters. He did well for himself there. His Social Security
records show that his income rose steadily--from $12,000 in
1987 to $20,000 in 1990 (or nearly $28,000 in today's terms).
On top of that, his health care was covered.
But in 1992, Sears stumbled, the result of a failed
strategy to sell everything from socks to stocks. Grimes,
then on leave with a bad back, soon found himself out of a
job.
It was a particularly bad time to be without work. The
combination of recession and steep cuts in defense spending,
brought on by the end of the Cold War, walloped Southern
California. Unremitting pressure from low-cost foreign
producers and wage competition from new immigrants such as
Rojas took a severe toll on unskilled workers like Grimes.
Any chance that he would be rehired by Sears soon
evaporated when the company's warehouse and adjacent store
were damaged in the L.A. riots. The warehouse was eventually
shuttered.
By the time the region bounced back, the nature of
employment had changed. Gone were many of the corporate
giants that had delivered a generation of blue-collar
security. In their place were tens of thousands of relatively
small employers whose job-generating capacity is now
regularly praised by the nation's leaders but whose
instability, often-low wages and meager benefits are less
remarked upon.
Government figures show that the average size of a
workplace shrank by 18% nationally between its late-1970s
peak and last year. The slide was even steeper in L.A.
County, with the average size of a workplace plunging 50% to
10 workers. This trend, according to Jacoby, ``is one of the
most important and least appreciated reasons why so many
people are having a tough time making a go of it today.''
For several years, Grimes all but vanished from the regular
economy. He, his chronically ill girlfriend and the couple's
young son lived off a mix of workers' compensation,
disability payments and her welfare checks.
In 1995, he resurfaced, this time as a security guard and--
befitting the U.S. economy's free-market transformation--a
self-employed entrepreneur. ``I set myself up as a
corporation,'' he said proudly.
With the help of a friend, Grimes persuaded a string of
businesses in a run-down neighborhood along Bixel Street near
downtown to hire him.
For three years, he watched over a dental office, a parking
garage, a liquor store and a methadone clinic. His earnings
climbed from $5,600 when he launched his venture to more than
$27,000 two years later. He bought himself a used Pontiac
Grand Am, a washer and dryer and a Rent-A-Center living room
set.
Then in 1998, he found out how risky the life of an
entrepreneur can be: The city bought up the properties along
Bixel Street to make way for the Staples Center.
The businesses that employed Grimes closed. Demolition
crews flattened the buildings and, along with them, Grimes'
income. His earnings that year went clear to zero.
High Hopes
As Grimes' world caved in on him once more, Rojas'
prospects were looking up.
She was still shuttling between her jobs at the airline
laundry service and as a packer of sundries when one of
Maldanado's cousins told her that the dishwashing department
at the Wyndham Hotel on Century Boulevard near LAX was hiring
for the 4-to-midnight shift.
The full-time position paid more than $7 an hour and,
because the workers were represented by Hotel Employees and
Restaurant Employees Local 814, it came with holidays and
family health insurance. The latter would prove particularly
important when Rojas suffered a miscarriage in 2001, and her
health plan picked up the tab for more than $5,000.
Rojas saw the job as a turning point. Until then, virtually
everything she had in her life had belonged to her in-laws.
``If we used dishes,'' she remembered, ``they were theirs. If
we watched TV, it was theirs.''
But all that would change when she went to the Wyndham. ``I
knew at that point I would have my own things,'' she said.
By 1998, as Rojas and Maldanado's income more than doubled
to $26,000 ($30,500 in today's dollars), the couple began
assembling the pieces of a middle-class life.
Rojas bought china by Royal Prestige. She purchased a hutch
from Levitz Furniture in which to display the dishes. She and
Maldanado acquired a couch, a bed and a dining table. They
shelled out for two large-screen TVs and signed up for
satellite-dish service.
They bought a 1987 Plymouth Sundance to go with their aging
blue Toyota Camry. And they traveled.
``We would go to Las Vegas and Disneyland,'' Maldanado
recalled. ``We had more money to spend.''
When the first of the couple's two daughters was born the
following year, Rojas was so eager for her to be part of the
fabric of America that she resisted entreaties to name her
Maria after five of Maldanado's aunts, and instead gave her
the name Katherine. She would make a similar choice when
their second child was born last May, rejecting Maldanado's
suggestion of Elvira in favor of Melane.
The new job let Rojas dream about owning a house where, she
said, ``my daughters can have their own rooms'' and ``maybe
one day I can take care of my grandchildren if I have some.''
Meanwhile, any thought of returning to Central America
faded away. ``Here,'' said Rojas, ``my family will go a lot
farther than in El Salvador.''
In the summer of 2000, the Wyndham's owners announced that
they were closing the hotel for renovations. Rojas remembers
hearing ominous rumblings that more would change than the
color of the lobby--something about the parking attendants'
jobs being contracted out.
But she was not worried. To tide her over during the
shutdown, Local 814 had steered her to a job at a unionized
Burger King at LAX. The fast-food outlet offered a wage-and-
benefit package almost as good as what she was making at the
Wyndham.
About a year after it had closed, the hotel on Century
Boulevard reopened. Only now, the sign outside read
``Radisson.'' The Wyndham name wasn't the only thing that was
gone either. So too was the union--part of a broader trend
sweeping corporate America for more than two decades. Unions,
which represented 17 percent of the nation's private-sector
workforce in the early 1980s, counted only 8 percent as
members by last year.
Rojas could have her dishwashing job back. But instead of
$8.89 an hour, her top wage at the Wyndham, she said, she'd
be pulling down only $7.50 at the Radisson, with no employer-
paid family health insurance. She signed on anyway and, to
make ends meet, kept her job at Burger King as well.
It was hard running between two jobs again, but the
family's income finally seemed to be stabilizing. As it
turned out, their financial roller-coaster ride had only just
begun.
Shrinking Welfare
For the poor, the most dramatic of all the safety-net cuts
that the government has engineered in the last 25 years came
in 1996.
That's when a Republican-controlled Congress passed and
President Clinton signed the Personal Responsibility and Work
Opportunity Reconciliation Act, overhauling the nation's
cash welfare system.
The law sought to push people off the dole and into work.
In doing so, it essentially reversed the poverty-fighting
strategy that Washington had pursued since the 1960s in which
poor Americans were promised a certain minimal standard of
living. By last year, the law had reduced the nation's
welfare rolls by 3 million families, or one-half, and had
sliced inflation--adjusted welfare spending by about $10
billion, or one-third.
These numbers, though, are about all the experts can agree
on. Advocates have hailed the measure as a spectacular
success, saying it has increased the incomes of many poor
people while triggering a steep drop in poverty among black
children. Critics have denounced it as a failure, saying that
many people are poorer today than they were before the law
was changed.
For its part, Grimes' household has remained largely
unaffected by the law's ``work first'' requirements. That's
because California has maintained relatively generous
benefits and because Grimes' domestic partner, Jacqueline
Harvey, has a chronic intestinal disease and is exempt from
work requirements. She has thus continued to collect benefits
off and on from the state's cash welfare program, CalWORKs.
She now receives $583 a month.
But Grimes, in the meantime, has been staggered by another,
lesser-known element of the 1996 act--a significant
toughening of child-support enforcement rules. This part of
the law built on other efforts undertaken since the 1970s to
go after absentee parents and compel them to help finance
their kids' upbringings.
Grimes and Harvey's son, Albert Jr., was born in 1988. Nine
years later, when the elder Grimes applied for custody of a
nephew, the Los Angeles County district attorney's office
sued him for child support for Albert Jr. The D.A. took
action even though Grimes, Harvey and their son had always
lived together and, they and several relatives say, Grimes
always helped raise the boy.
Nonetheless, Grimes declined to challenge the county, which
won a court judgment
against him. Grimes said he thought that he had to go along
with the support order to obtain custody of his nephew and to
ensure that Harvey would continue receiving publicly funded
healthcare. It's also unclear whether counting Grimes as a
parent in the house would have jeopardized the size of
Harvey's welfare checks.
Whether a mix-up or not, the effect on Grimes' finances has
been devastating. California courts not only have imposed
high monthly support payments--often unrelated to a parent's
ability to comply--but also have added interest at a 10
percent annual clip to past-due amounts.
A recent study commissioned by the state found that past-
due child-support payments in California have soared to
almost $17 billion from $2.5 billion in the last decade. Most
of that money, moreover, is earmarked for state coffers--not
for the children who need support.
``The system was largely about welfare-cost recovery, not
helping families,'' said Curtis L. Child, who stepped down
recently as head of the state Department of Child
Support Services, which was created in 2000 to remove
enforcement power from county district attorneys and
restructure the system. ``In imposing these huge judgments
on fathers, we're confronting these men with an awful
choice: Go underground, which is just what child-support
enforcement was intended to stop, or let themselves be
financially ruined.''
In August 1997, Grimes was ordered to start sending the
county $173 a month in current payments, plus an additional
amount for past-due support totaling $4,900. When he fell
behind after his Bixel Street business collapsed in 1998, the
past-due total began to swell. It now tops $8,000.
Plastic Safety Net
In one great clap, the 9/11 terrorists brought down the
twin towers in New York, shattered Americans' sense of
security and shoved Elvira Rojas down the economic ladder.
It took her five days to reach Burger King after the police
and military sealed off the airport in the wake of the
September 2001 attacks. When she finally was allowed in,
Rojas found that her manager had cut her shift to just four
hours. Within a couple of weeks, she was laid off.
Things were little better at the nearly deserted Radisson.
Rojas' hours there were reduced to practically nothing.
Over the next 15 months, Rojas grabbed whatever hours she
could get at the hotel and worked a second job ironing
clothes at Hermosa Cleaners in Hermosa Beach. It was a tough
schedule even before she got pregnant in 2002. And still it
was not enough to keep her family's income from sliding
almost 20% from its 1998 high to less than $22,000.
So she and Maldanado turned to what has become one of the
few reliable safety nets left for many poor Americans: their
credit cards.
In May 2002, Rojas was rushed to the emergency room at
Robert F. Kennedy Medical Center in Hawthorne, where she
suffered a second miscarriage. This time, with only minimal
health insurance from the hotel, she said she had to put
$2,000 of her $4,000 medical bill onto her MasterCard.
``I didn't have the money otherwise,'' she said.
As the credit card industry emerged in the late 1950s and
'60s, some expressed concern that even well-provisioned
middle-class families would be unable to resist the lure of
instant credit. Betty Furness, President Johnson's consumer
affairs advisor, warned that credit cards were ``modern
traps'' that would turn Americans into ``hopeless addicts.''
But over the last 25 years, card issuers have not let up in
pushing their products. Instead, they have reached out for
ever more low-income households.
Federal Reserve figures show that among families in the
bottom fifth of the economy, the percentage of households
with credit cards has soared from 11% in the late 1970s
to almost 40%. Their average balance on those cards has
climbed, in inflation-adjusted terms, from about $825 to
more than $2,000.
Some analysts applaud the greater availability of credit.
Gregory Elliehausen, of the Credit Research Center at
Georgetown University, said the spread of cards and other
kinds of lending was part of a sweeping ``democratization of
finance'' that has allowed poor families to operate more
efficiently by, for example, buying decent cars to get to
work.
Economists Dirk Krueger of the University of Pennsylvania
and Fabrizio Perri, a New York University professor now on
sabbatical at the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, say
families of all incomes increasingly rely on loans, rather
than on business and government safety nets, in times of
trouble. They borrow their way through the bad patches and
pay off their debts in flush periods.
The problem comes when there are no flush periods.
Some of the items purchased on Rojas' and Maldanado's
credit cards can seem frivolous or extravagant--the TVs, for
example, or a $150 set of sepia-toned studio photographs of
Katherine and her mom dressed in feather boas and gowns. But
most of the charges appear to fit the definition of safety-
net spending.
Beyond the emergency room charge, there was $130 for a new
fuel pump for Rojas' Toyota and $170 to repair the power
steering. There was $300 at the start of September to cover
rent and a $1,000 cash advance that Rojas said went to help a
brother bring his wife to the U.S. from El Salvador.
Chipping away at what's due on their cards is virtually
impossible. That's in large part because the interest the two
are charged is about double what a typical middle-class
borrower faces. By the time they cover that, there is little
left to reduce the balance.
Although the stated interest on the couple's most heavily
used cards, a pair of Direct Merchants Bank MasterCards,
ranges from 20.49% to 31.99%, a review of recent bills
indicates that they are consistently charged close to the
higher amount. (The Minnetonka, Minn., bank recently was
ordered by federal regulators to pay $3.2 million in
penalties for ``downselling''--offering low pre-approved
rates and then moving customers to higher-rate accounts
without fully disclosing the switch. It is not clear that
this happened to Rojas and Maldanado.)
Rojas and Maldanado now owe $14,592 on their four credit
cards--a burden that financial experts say is appropriate for
a household making about $100,000, but not one like theirs.
Falling Behind
In the spring of 2000, two years after Grimes' Bixel Street
business failed, he found a job as a security guard five
blocks away at Ernst & Young Plaza.
For a while after the September 2001 terrorist attacks, the
building's owners and tenants treated Grimes and his co-
workers with newfound respect. Managers listened to his
suggestions about how to improve safety at the 41-story
structure.
He was promoted to ``lobby ambassador,'' a sort of informal
emissary to the building, and then to lobby supervisor. His
annual earnings climbed back above $20,000, and he began to
imagine himself becoming a director of security.
``My goal was to have a facility of my own,'' Grimes said.
``I thought I should have a situation where I'm in control.''
But for most of the last year, Grimes has been anything but
in control.
In February, after a dispute with their landlord, he and
his family were evicted from their apartment on Fedora
Street, where they had lived for several years. All that he
was able to save from the place were three mattresses, two
chairs and a Sony PlayStation.
By April, he had run through several thousand dollars
paying for a $90-a-night motel room while he looked for a new
apartment. He and Harvey eventually rented a two-room
Hollywood walk-up for $875 a month, or more than 40% of their
combined income. Before long, he fell behind again on his
court-ordered child-support payments.
In July, things took another turn for the worse. After a
series of clashes with his boss, Grimes was ordered out of
the Ernst & Young tower and told he would be reassigned.
Instead, he quit. For the time being, he is working for the
Service Employees International Union on a campaign to
organize security guards in the city's high-rise offices.
Grimes is determined to recover from the latest round of
reverses. He dreams about what his father had--a house, a
secure job--and is convinced he'll fare as well someday.
``I'm trying,'' Grimes said, ``to get back to what he had.''
Another Eviction
A month after Grimes was forced out of the Ernst & Young
tower, Rojas and her family were evicted from the Burin
Avenue bungalow where they had lived for seven years. A
developer is preparing to raze the place and put in half-
million-dollar townhouses.
It's not clear how long they could have afforded to stay
there anyway. A week before they moved, Maldanado was laid
off from the dry-cleaning plant to make way, he said, for new
immigrants who were willing to work for less. He has since
gotten a new job, packing items at a warehouse, for minimum
wage.
The family's new apartment is so small that the bedroom is
a single mass of mattresses and cribs. The hutch and couches
fill the living room to overflowing. And the cabinets in the
kitchenette are so stuffed that Rojas must store her supply
of infant formula in her car trunk.
But the couple has plans--to turn around the slide in their
income, to look for a house, to make sure that the girls
continue all the way through school. ``I don't want them
to be struggling like us,'' Maldanado said.
Rojas is making other plans as well. Soon after arriving in
the U.S., she took out a loan to finance her future at the
Inglewood Park Cemetery. She now owns two plots at the
cemetery's Mausoleum of the Golden West, and recently signed
papers to pay $82.79 a month for the next five years to buy
two more. By the time Rojas is finished, she will have spent
more than $12,000 in total. But she's convinced it's worth
it.
``Now if I die, I won't have to worry about my funeral,''
she said. ``I won't leave my family with a financial
burden.''
The Source of the Statistics and How They Were Analyzed
The Times used the Panel Study of Income Dynamics for its
analysis of family income volatility.
The panel study has followed a nationally representative
sample of about 5,000 families and their offshoots for nearly
40 years and is the most comprehensive publicly available
income and earnings database in the world. It is run by the
University of Michigan and principally underwritten by the
National
Science Foundation. The families' identities are kept
confidential.
The Times employed techniques for gauging income volatility
that were developed by economists Robert A. Moffitt of Johns
Hopkins University and Peter Gottschalk of Boston College.
The Times also consulted with Yale University political
scientist Jacob S. Hacker, who has conducted his own analysis
of income volatility among households in the panel study and
has published results linking it to economic risk.
The Times employed two Johns Hopkins graduate students,
Xiaoguo Hu and Anubha Dhasmana, to help generate the data.
Moffitt guided them and advised the newspaper.
The Times' analysis looked at five-year increments from
1970 to 2000 and examined the annual fluctuations in each
family's income.
For example, for a family whose income rose by $5,000 over
a five-year span, the paper examined the journey from the
lower number to the higher: Did the change occur in steady
$1,000 annual increases? Or did the family's income take a
big jump in one year and plunge in another?
The Times' basic finding is that the fluctuations in annual
income that individual families have experienced have grown
larger over the last three decades.
Based on the panel-study sample, The Times estimated the
annual income swings, up or down, for 68% of all U.S.
families--those who did not have the most extreme
fluctuations. As a result, the newspaper's conclusions don't
rest on cases outside the mainstream: the movie star whose
career dries up overnight, say, or the hourly worker who
wins the lottery.
To zero in on working families, The Times focused on men
and women 25 to 64 years old whose households had some
income. To analyze the working poor, the paper ranked
families by their average income during each five-year
period. It then concentrated on those in the bottom one-fifth
of income earners and especially those right at the 20th
percentile.
The average annual income of panel-study families at the
20th percentile is close to the government's official poverty
line for a family of four most years.
The analysis looked at pretax income of all family members
from all sources, including workplace earnings; investments;
public transfers such as jobless benefits, food stamps and
cash welfare; and private transfers such as inheritances.
All amounts were adjusted for inflation, expressed in 2003
dollars.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. McGOVERN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Utah (Mr. Bishop) for…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. McGOVERN asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Utah (Mr. Bishop) for yielding me the customary 30 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, here we go again. The 109th Congress convened 2 months ago. The Committee on Rules has reported eight rules, including the one we are considering today. None of these rules, not a single one, has been open. The Republican majority is zero for eight on open rules. It is an abysmal record and just continues to prove how out of touch with America, and with the democratic process, this leadership really is.
I oppose this rule and I oppose this bill. The Republican leadership seems to think that the job picture in this country is rosy, but they could not be more wrong. They seem to think jobs are popping out of the woodwork, but it is clear our workers need job training assistance in order to compete in the 21st century workplace.
When we think that the Republican leadership cannot be any more out of touch with the challenges facing working Americans, they bring the Job Training Improvement Act of 2005 to the floor today.
Let us look at the facts. Every day over 85,000 people in this country lose their jobs. Under this administration's watch, the Nation has lost 2.8 million jobs, and 4.3 million formerly middle class Americans have been pushed into poverty. President Bush's failed economic policies have produced a 5.2 percent unemployment rate.
Let us be clear. This slightly lower unemployment rate does not signal a rebounding labor market. In addition to the 8 million Americans who are currently unemployed, there are 5 million unemployed workers who want to work but have given up looking for jobs simply because there are no jobs out there for them. Beyond that, there are 4.5 million people who have accepted low-wage, part-time work simply because they cannot find full-time employment in this weak economy. The real unemployment rate would skyrocket to 9.3 percent by merely including these workers.
And not only are millions of American workers looking for jobs, but the long-term unemployment rate, workers who have been jobless for 6 months or more, is the highest in more than 20 years. Despite these startling statistics, this administration has continued to resist efforts to extend unemployment benefits for the 3.5 million workers who have exhausted their coverage.
The Republicans have mismanaged this economy, and American workers are paying the price through lower pay, reduced benefits, and in too many cases job loss. As if this were not enough, the Republican leadership is trying to enact broad, sweeping changes to the Workforce Investment Act. This bill will do nothing to create new jobs, reduce the number of unemployed people in this country, or sufficiently training workers for jobs. Frankly, this bill is a slap in the face to American workers. Contrary to what we will hear from the Republican leadership, the Job Training Improvement Act will actually make it harder for the unemployed to obtain employment and reemployment training.
Specifically, H.R. 27 would eliminate the employment services system, a program which provides critical job assistance to those unemployed workers hardest hit with the job loss of recent years. In my home State of Massachusetts, this program provides services to nearly 165,000 jobseekers each year, and it has successfully helped 75 percent of them retain employment in less than 6 months.
In addition, this bill block grants adult and dislocated worker funding streams. It allows States to use funds from the Disability and Veteran Employment and Adult Learning Programs to fund expenses at the Workforce Investment Act's centers. The result of this provision will be more bureaucracy and less training for the disabled and veterans.
Given all of the rhetoric that we hear about supporting our troops and providing for our veterans, we should find this provision particularly disturbing. We should be doing everything we can to help veterans find employment instead of slashing the disability and veteran employment and adult learning programs.
Additionally, the bill eliminates existing protections and safeguards against low quality and potentially fraudulent job training providers and permits States to allow these providers to receive Federal funding. It caps at 30 percent the use of funds for services targeting low- income youth, those considered most likely to drop out of school.
If that were not bad enough, this bill also abandons a core principle of our Constitution by repealing civil rights protections written into current law.
Twenty-one years ago, then-Senator Dan Quayle sponsored legislation that provided civil rights protections against religious-based employment discrimination in programs that receive Federal funding. These protections were extended to secular as well as religious organizations. President Reagan signed that bill into law. It is not every day that I praise Dan Quayle, but the nondiscrimination provision he offered is good policy which has served us well. This provision received strong bipartisan support when the Workforce Reinvestment Act was reauthorized in 1998.
However, the Job Training Investment Act shreds these protections by allowing religious organizations to receive Federal funding for job- training activities and social services while also employing religious- based discriminatory practices. In other words, this bill would allow a religious organization that discriminates based on religion, like a Bob Jones University, to get taxpayer money and use that Federal funding to legally discriminate on religious grounds when hiring staff to carry out the job training programs and services in this bill.
But let me be clear, the right of churches, synagogues, mosques and other religious organizations to remain free from government intervention has long been protected under the law, and I am sure my colleagues join me in support of this protection. Congress has always exempted faith-based organizations from antidiscrimination provisions in programs funded by their own money, and we are not proposing that a church or synagogue or mosque be forbidden from using religious criteria in deciding who to hire as a minister or rabbi or imam.
However, that same church, synagogue or mosque should not be permitted to apply for and receive Federal funding for job training and then, as written in this bill, be exempted from Federal civil rights protections. Faith-based institutions should be required, like all other recipients of Federal funds, to adhere to basic civil rights laws, and I cannot even begin to count the number of institutions that have contacted my office in the last few days asking to be held to those same standards.
Last night in the Committee on Rules, I heard my colleagues, the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott) and the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings) talk about a return to discrimination practices that forced these men and millions of other African Americans to drink from separate drinking fountains and eat at separate lunch counters from white Americans.
How can anyone justify abandoning one of our Nation's most fundamental principles? How can Members believe this is the right position for Congress to advocate? How can Members believe this provision is moral? I certainly cannot find it in myself to do so. This provision is offensive, it is ugly, it is wrong, it is unacceptable. But beyond that, Mr. Speaker, I believe it is unconstitutional and unAmerican.
The gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott) will offer an amendment to strike this offensive provision from the bill. I hope that my colleagues will join me in voting for the Scott amendment. It is important that we oppose discrimination at every turn, and this is an important vote.
Mr. Speaker, many Democrats offered several high-quality amendments in the Committee on Rules yesterday. Unfortunately, the majority has continued to stifle the democratic process by denying common sense amendments to this bill.
Just because the Republican leadership allowed the Scott amendment to be considered on the floor today does not make this a good rule. Once again, let me remind my colleagues and the American people watching at home that the Republicans have not reported one single open rule this year.
Mr. Speaker, this is an unfair rule, poor policy-making and a bad bill. It is truly a tragedy when a Nation that prides itself on democracy and equality considers and will most likely pass a bill that would permit employment discrimination in federally-funded programs. It is a slippery slope from here on out, and I fear this may just be the beginning. I urge this House to defeat the rule and vote against the bill.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I would just reiterate that what we believe is that taxpayer money should not be used by faith-based organizations to discriminate against people based on religion. What we feel is that this provision in this bill is offensive and it turns the clock backwards on civil rights.
Mr. Speaker, I include for printing in the Record a letter opposing this bill signed by 67 religious organizations and civil rights organizations that have great concerns not only with the provision on religious-based employment discrimination but on a whole series of other provisions.
February 28, 2005.
Dear Representative: The undersigned organizations are
writing to urge you to vote against H.R. 27, the Job Training
Improvement Act, unless it is modified to address the
concerns outlined in this letter; and to oppose any effort to
expand the block grant authority in the bill along the lines
of the Administration's ``WIA Plus'' proposal.
H.R. 27 fails to make meaningful improvements to the
Workforce Investment Act (WIA) that would enhance the
training and career opportunities of unemployed workers.
Instead, the legislation would eliminate the dislocated
worker training program, undermine state rapid response
systems, end the federal-state labor exchange system, roll
back protections against religious discrimination in hiring
by job training providers, and potentially undermine the
stability of other important programs.
In particular, we are concerned about the following
provisions in H.R. 27:
New Block Grant
H.R. 27 consolidates into a single block grant the WIA
adult and dislocated worker programs with the Wagner-Peyser
employment service program and reemployment services for
unemployment insurance recipients. In doing so, it will
eliminate job training assistance specifically targeted to
workers dislocated by off shoring and other economic changes,
pit different types of workers against each other, and lead
to future funding reductions. The block grant also eliminates
the statewide job service, which provides a uniform statewide
system for matching employers and jobseekers, replacing it
with a multiplicity of localized programs that would have no
incentive or ability to cooperate and function as a
comprehensive labor exchange system. Eliminating the
employment service, which is financed with revenue from the
unemployment insurance (UI) trust fund, breaks the connection
between the unemployment insurance program and undermines the
UI ``work test,'' which ensures that UI recipients return to
work as quickly as possible.
Infrastructure and Core Services Funding
A principal criticism of WIA has been the substantial
decline in actual training compared to its predecessor, the
Job Training Partnership Act. While there are various reasons
for the reduction in training, including the sequence of
services requirement in current law, the use of WIA resources
by local boards and operators to build new one-stop
facilities and bureaucracies, without any limitation, has
contributed substantially to the decline in training. This is
despite the fact that many WIA partner programs also
contribute operating funds to one-stop operations.
H.R. 27 gives governors even broader discretion to transfer
additional resources from the WIA partner programs to pay for
WIA infrastructure and core services costs--without any
assurance that more training would result. These programs
include the vocational rehabilitation program, veterans
employment programs, adult education, the Perkins post
secondary career and technical education programs,
unemployment insurance, trade adjustment assistance,
Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), and, if they
are partners, employment and training programs under the food
stamp and housing programs, programs for individuals with
disabilities carried out by state agencies, including state
Medicaid agencies, and even child support enforcement. By
relying on funding transfers from these programs to
guarantee resources for WIA infrastructure and core
services, H.R. 27 will disrupt and weaken services
provided by these non-WIA programs, which also will face
substantial pressures for funding reductions in the next
few years.
The infrastructure and related provisions start the
commingling of funds from these non-WIA programs. In doing
so, they transform the original one-stop idea of a better-
coordinated workforce system into a mechanism for reducing
resources for and block granting these programs in the
future. A more effective and simple solution to ensuring
adequate training services would be to require that a certain
percentage of WIA funds be used for training as provided in
previous job training programs and to create a separate WIA
funding stream for one-stop operations, if necessary.
Personal Reemployment Accounts
H.R. 27 includes permanent and unlimited authority for the
Secretary to conduct ``personal reemployment account'' (PRA)
demonstratious even though the Department of Labor recently
initiated a PRA demonstration without strong interest among
the states. Although nine states could have participated,
only seven are doing so.
Since this demonstration already is in process, we see no
justification for this provision and can only surmise that it
is an attempt to implement PRAs more broadly, despite a lack
of Congressional support for a full-scale program in the
past.
Unlike current WIA training programs, the PRAs would limit
the cost of training that an unemployment insurance recipient
can receive and would bar that individual from WIA training
services for a year after the PRA account is established.
This is the wrong way to go. With long-term unemployment at
historically high levels, there is a much greater need for
continued unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed
who have found it so difficult to become reemployed.
Religious-Based Employment Discrimination
H.R. 27 repeals longstanding civil rights protections that
prohibit religious-based employment discrimination by job
training providers. These protections have been included in
job training programs, which received bipartisan support,
since 1982. At no time have the civil rights provisions
prohibited religious organizations from effective
participation in federal job training programs. This rollback
of civil rights protections is especially incongruous in a
program designed to provide employment and career
opportunities in an evenhanded manner and should be rejected.
WIA Plus Proposal
The Administration has proposed giving Governors authority
to merge five additional programs into the WIA block grant.
The proposal would eliminate specialized assistance to
unemployed, disabled and homeless veterans, critical job
training services for workers under the Trade Adjustment
Assistance Act whose jobs have been outsourced or lost to
foreign competition, and specialized counseling and
customized help for people with disabilities through state
vocational rehabilitation agencies. These individuals would
have to compete with each other for a declining share of
resources without the protections and requirements under
current law. Furthermore, the proposal abrogates
accountability for the expenditure of federal taxpayer
dollars by eliminating program reporting requirements. We
strongly urge you to oppose any effort to adopt this
misguided plan.
In summary, H.R. 27 strays far from the appropriate mission
for federal job training programs of enhancing training
opportunities for workers and providing skilled workers for
employers. We strongly urge you to oppose this legislation
unless amendments are adopted to delete the block grant, PRA
demonstration and religious-based discrimination provisions
and to modify the infrastructure provisions as recommended.
American Association of People with Disabilities.
American Civil Liberties Union.
American Counseling Association.
American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE).
American Federation of Labor-Congress of Industrial
Organizations (AFL-CIO).
American Federation of State, County and Municipal
Employees (AFSCME).
American Federation of Teachers (AFT).
American Humanist Association.
American Jewish Congress.
American Psychological Association.
American RehabACTion Network.
Americans for Democratic Action (ADA).
Americans for Religious Liberty.
Americans United for Separation of Church and State (AU).
Association for Career and Technical Education.
Baptist Joint Committee.
Brain Injury Association of America.
Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Training.
Campaign for America's Future.
Center for Community Change.
Communications Workers of America (CWA).
Council of State Administrators for Vocational
Rehabilitation (CSAVR).
Easter Seals.
Equal Partners in Faith.
Goodwill Industries.
Institute for America's Future.
Interfaith Alliance.
International Association of Machinists and Aerospace
Workers.
International Brotherhood of Teamsters.
International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.
National Advocacy Center of the Sisters of the Good
Shepherd.
National Alliance For Partnerships in Equity.
National Association of State Directors of Career Technical
Education Consortium.
National Association of State Head Injury Administrators.
National Council of Jewish Women.
National Education Association.
National Employment Law Project.
National Head Start Association.
National Immigration Law Center.
National Law Center on Homelessness & Poverty.
National League of Cities.
National Organization for Women.
National Rehabilitation Association (NRA).
National WIC Association.
National Women's Law Center.
NETWORK, A National Catholic Social Justice Lobby.
OMB Watch.
Paralyzed Veterans of America.
Patient Alliance for Neuroendocrineimmune Disorders;
Organization for Research and Advocacy.
Plumbers and Pipe Fitters Union.
Professional Employees Department, AFL-CIO.
Protestants for the Common Good.
Service Employees International Union (SEIU).
The Arc of the U.S..
United Cerebral Palsy.
Unitarian Universalist Service Committee.
United Auto Workers (UAW).
United Church of Christ Justice and Witness Ministries.
United Mineworkers of America.
United Steelworkers of America.
USAction.
Welfare Law Center.
Wider Opportunities for Women.
Women Employed.
Women Work! The National Network for Women's Employment.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I would just say to the gentleman who just spoke that we believe that there are many religious organizations, many faith-based organizations that do incredible work, and they will still be able to do incredible work. What we object to, quite frankly, is the use of taxpayers' money to basically subsidize discrimination. It is not just a concern that those of us who are speaking here have; I submitted a list of close to 70 civil rights and religious organizations that have objections to this provision, including the African American Ministers in Action; American Jewish Committee; the American Jewish Congress; Americans for Religious Liberty; the Anti-Defamation League; the Baptist Joint Committee; Central Conference of American Rabbis; Episcopal Church, USA; the General Board of Church and Society of the United Methodist Church; the National Advocacy Center of the Sisters of the Good Shepherd; National Council of Jewish Women; NETWORK, a national Catholic social justice lobby; Presbyterian Church USA; Protestants For the Common Good; Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism; Texas Faith Network; the Interfaith Alliance; Union for Reform Judaism; United Universalist Association of Congregations; United Church of Christ Justice & Witness Ministries. They go on and on and on. This is a concern that many of the faith-based organizations all across this country share with us.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Puerto Rico (Mr. Fortuno). Mr. Chairman, will the gentlewoman yield? Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the gentlewoman for yielding. I pledge to work…
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Puerto Rico (Mr. Fortuno).
Mr. Chairman, will the gentlewoman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the gentlewoman for yielding. I pledge to work with her and other interested members of the New York delegation during conference on this legislation to identify and remedy any governance problems which New York may have under this bill. However, it is not clear that the language that the gentlewoman offered in committee that is included in S. 9 fixes the problem in New York and could have other unintended consequences in New York and other States.
So my goal is to ensure that the mandatory partners contribute to the cost of the one-stop infrastructure without causing constitutional problems for States. And as I suggested, I will continue to work with the gentlewoman to achieve this.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, what we have before us is the Reauthorization of the Workforce Investment Act. It was first passed in 1998. These one-stop centers that have been created all over the country to help the people gain skills and to increase their skills are a critical part of what we need to do if we are going to have a successful economy over the next 10, 20 and even 50 years.
What we have done in this reauthorization is tried to make these one- stop centers work even better. We believe that by consolidating the three separate funding streams, three different sets of employees, three different sets of books, we can gain more flexibility for the local workforce boards and thereby freeing up more dollars to be used to actually train workers.
We believe strongly that the youth services money here ought to be directed for the most part to out of school youth, a population that is vastly underserved and we do that in this bill. We also believe that faith-based providers, especially in large urban centers, can provide a very necessary outreach to help those who are really needy have an opportunity to get the kind of training and retraining they need to become productive members of our society.
I think what we have here is a very good bill. And while my friends on the other side of the aisle have some disagreement, I think all of us understand that by and large, this is a good program, that the bill before us is worth the support of my colleagues and I would ask them to do that.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the gentleman's amendment and yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, the amendment that is being offered by my friend, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Kildee), would strike all of the positive reforms for youth that are included in H.R. 27. Under current law, funds for the WIA youth program are spread too thinly, as they fund programs that both serve in-school and out-of-school youth.
In the White House, the Disadvantaged Youth Task Force has proposed targeted Federal youth training funds to serve the most in need and to reduce the duplication of services amongst Federal programs. There are a large number of programs today designed to deal with in-school, at- risk children, and there is really only one program in WIA that is targeted at out-of-school youth.
What we tried to do in this bill was to strike a balance by requiring that 70 percent of the youth program funds go to out-of-school youth, a population that is by and large ignored and that I think these funds ought to be targeted to. We do allow the local workforce boards to use up to 30 percent of their programs for in-school youth; but there are other programs, a half a dozen other programs, targeted at these at- risk children who are in school.
So as a way of trying to bring more synergy to an effort to help out- of-school youth, I think the language we have in the bill strikes the right balance.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume just to correct the record.
The gentlewoman who just spoke says that we eliminated a preference for veterans in this bill. The fact is that there is a preference for veterans written into the law. That has not changed at all.
Secondly, the gentlewoman said there are block grants in the underlying bill. There are no block grants. As a matter of fact, the targeting of funds to the local workforce boards in this bill is more structured than it is today under current law, so that at least 75 percent of the funds available back to the States must go to the local workforce investment boards.
Lastly, the gentlewoman said that we have discrimination in this bill. I would just remind the gentlewoman that when our predecessors wrote the 1964 Civil Rights Act, they recognized in title VII that religious organizations ought to be protected in their hiring so that they would not be required to hire anybody that shows up, but could, if they wanted to, only hire those people within their faith.
Now, if people want to disagree with title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, they certainly have that right. They may go to the Committee on the Judiciary and change that law, but let us not try to do it in this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Price), a member of the committee).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 30 seconds, the balance of my time, to my friend, the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney), who I know has been pressed for time.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment offered by the gentleman from Virginia.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. The amendment by my friend from Virginia would actually work against the neediest citizens in our local communities. Faith-based organizations such as churches, synagogues and other
faith-based charities are a central part of the fabric of local communities across America. Many of these faith-based institutions provide assistance to the hardest-to-serve individuals because they often go where others will not and serve those others prefer not to serve, and go out of the way to meet people where they are rather than where we would want them to be.
President Bush noted yesterday at a speech that one of the key reasons why many faith-based groups are so effective is the commitment to serve that is grounded in the shared values and religious identity of their volunteers and their employees. In other words, effectiveness happens because people who share faith show up to help a particular organization based on that faith to succeed.
I agree with President Bush that many faith-based organizations can make a vital contribution to Federal assistance programs. Yet this amendment would deny faith-based institutions their rights, under the historic 1964 Civil Rights Act. Considering the proven track record of faith-based providers in meeting the needs of our citizens, why would we want to deny them the opportunity to help in Federal job training efforts?
Unfortunately, in some Federal laws, these faith-based organizations have been stripped of their hiring rights and must relinquish their civil liberties if they choose to participate in Federal service initiatives.
The landmark 1964 Civil Rights Act explicitly protects the rights of religious organizations to take religion into account into their hiring practices. In fact, the Civil Rights Act made clear that when faith- based organizations hire employees on a religious basis, it is an exercise of the organization's civil liberties and not discrimination under Federal law.
Those organizations willing to serve their communities by participating in Federal programs should not be forced to compromise their religious liberties in order to serve those in need. The U.S. Supreme Court in 1987 upheld the rights of faith-based institutions and held that it was constitutional for these groups to take religion into account when making hiring decisions.
Former Democrat President Bill Clinton himself signed four laws explicitly allowing faith-based groups to staff on a religious basis when they receive Federal funds. Those laws are the 1996 Welfare Reform Law, the 1998 Community Services Block Grant Act, the 2000 Community Renewal Tax Relief Act, and the 2000 Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Act.
President Bush has worked tirelessly to remove the barriers that needlessly discourage faith-based groups from bringing their talents and compassion to Federal initiatives that help Americans in need. And just yesterday, again, he called on Congress to send him the same language protecting religious hiring that President Clinton signed on four other occasions.
The underlying bill answers the President's call and takes advantage of the positive role that faith-based institutions play in our communities in serving those who are most in need. We should not be denying faith-based providers the opportunity to serve the neediest of our citizens. And I urge my colleagues to vote no on the Scott amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 30 seconds. Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act explicitly says that religious organizations in their hiring can hire people of their own faith. Period. That is what it says. It does not say whether you take Federal money or you do not take Federal money. It says that a religious organization can take religion into account in terms of their hiring. Period.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Souder).
(Mr. SOUDER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from North Carolina (Ms. Foxx).
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Louisiana (Mr. Jindal).
Mr. Chairman, I think it is important that we keep our eye on the target here. The bill before us seeks to help Americans who need job training services or retraining services to help them have an opportunity to participate and succeed in the economy of the 21st century. The question is how best do we deliver those services.
Under the Workforce Investment Act, we set up these one-stop centers all over the country. They have in fact been wildly successful. But we also know that there are pockets of poverty, pockets of people in very dire straits, that are not going to come walking into a one-stop shop. We also know that there are organizations out there that as part of their faith, part of the mission of their faith, go out and help those in need.
Now, what we are trying to do is to make sure that these services get to the people that they need. So in this bill we include protections for those faith-based organizations who may want to participate in this program, give them the opportunity to do that without, without giving up their rights under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
It is a very simple question that we are down to here. My friends on the other side of the aisle, by and large, want to say if you take one Federal dollar in the pursuit of helping others under this program, you have to give up your rights under the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That is the whole point here.
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Mr. Chairman, so the debate here boils down to one of two issues, you believe that if these faith-based organizations want to participate in these programs that they have to give up their rights under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
We believe and the majority of this House has believed on a number of occasions as we have had this vote, that faith-based organizations who want to help the neediest of the needy should in fact be able to have their rights under the 1964 Civil Rights Act. It is just as simple as that.
So I would ask my colleagues as they look at this bill and look at this amendment to support the work that we have done, to allow these groups to participate. They do good work. There is no reason why that they cannot partner with the Federal Government to help us in our effort to help the neediest of the needy, and to help improve the prospects for job training and retraining to help all Americans participate in the 21st century economy and give them a chance to succeed at the American dream.
Mr. Chairman, I ask my colleagues to vote against the Scott amendment.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to the motion to recommit.
Mr. Speaker, let us tell the truth about what has happened in job creation in America. Over the last 17 months, 2.7 million new jobs have been created in America. Our economy is strong and our economy is getting stronger. If we look at the underlying bill that we have before us, veterans have a preference to services above all others.
What the gentleman from Michigan proposes here is a brand new program similar to a trade adjustment program that provides up to 2 years of unemployment-type benefits and provides unlimited access to training. But the fact is that unemployed workers have access today, people coming back from Iraq who are unemployed have access to services, and those who may have their jobs lost through outsourcing have, in fact, access to services.
But what also happens under the gentleman's amendment is that they get a preference in this bill. The gentleman creates a new preference here above other types of people who may have lost their jobs. The underlying bill, in fact, will provide more services to more unemployed workers and workers who want to increase their skills who may not be unemployed.
But when we look at this, this is a new program. This is an authorization. There is no appropriation. We all know it will probably take 2 to 5 years for this type of program to be implemented. The fact is I think it is a cruel hoax on those who may be unemployed, who may fall into one of these categories to think that they are going to be eligible for unemployment-type assistance or be eligible for unlimited
training when, in fact, there is no appropriation and the fact is the program will take years to implement.
I urge my colleagues to vote against the motion to recommit and support the underlying bill.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 126 and ask for its immediate consideration. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30…
Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call up House Resolution 126 and ask for its immediate consideration.
Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. McGovern), pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purposes of debate only.
Mr. Speaker, House Resolution 126 is a structured rule providing for 1 hour of general debate equally divided between the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce. The rule makes in order only those amendments printed in the Committee on Rules report, and for the time specified in the report. And finally, the rule provides for one motion to recommit with or without instructions.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to stand before the House today in strong support of this rule and support of the underlying resolution legislation, H.R. 27, the Job Training Improvement Act of 2005. The gentleman from Ohio (Chairman Boehner) and the gentleman from California (Subcommittee Chairman McKeon) and the committee members from both sides of the aisle are to be commended for their diligence and hard work in putting together a comprehensive measure reauthorizing vital job training programs while, at the same time, providing for improvements of those programs aimed at providing greater flexibility, accountability, targeting Federal dollars where they will be most effective and where there is the highest demonstrated need.
Mr. Speaker, my favorite movie of all time has always been ``Inherit the Wind.'' I still think it is Spencer Tracy's greatest role. But in that he, playing the character of Henry Drummond, talks about the other main character, Matthew Harrison Brady, who was a well intentioned, yet flawed, character. And in talking about his death, Drummond says of Brady, a giant once lived in that body. But Matt Brady got lost because he was looking for God too high and up too far away.
Federal Government is a lot like Matt Brady. We are well intentioned, the greatest of desire to serve; but we oftentimes get lost and allow too many people to fall through cracks and harm people because we try to solve problems from too high up and administer programs from too far away.
From this isolated Hall, we often concoct specific standards that fail people who have the needs but do not fit our preconceived standards. Last Wednesday in my district at a town meeting, I met a young lady by the name of Micaela, who offered me also this five-page letter of her efforts and her concerns. She is in need of vocational rehabilitation services, but does not quite fit our standards we have designed.
In her letter she said in her years of trying to receive services that she was told she had too many disabilities, too few disabilities. You could not visually see her disability. She was too young, too old, and too rare of a circumstance. You name it, she had heard it. And she has also been basically told that I am not worth helping, hiring, or even listening to.
Oftentimes the Federal Government, in fact, not oftentimes. The Federal Government's only advantage is that of uniformity. By definition we can deal with people only as objects on a factory conveyor belt designed to meet the Federal factory specifications.
But if we truly believe that people are each individuals, that they have a spark of divinity, that individual needs are there that require individualized
help, then we do not need uniformity. What we need is creativity, efficiency, and caring; and that can only be done effectively on the State levels, which is why this particular bill has gone from several years ago, 63 programs, has now taken three funding streams and tried to bring it into one so they could help individual people by trying to apply 70 percent of the funding that has been given to students to those who have been unserved and out of school, to create a demonstration project for personal reemployment accounts to meet individual needs to be addressed by that individual, and to present the President's community college program and tie them all together to give local governments the ability to work with individuals so that Micaela here does not slip through the crack by definition.
Prior to coming to Congress, I had the opportunity, like many of you, of serving in the State legislature, and I was a teacher for a long time. In that position, or those positions, I witnessed firsthand the years of oftentimes Federal programs and mandates shoved on States, on local school districts, on local units of governments with this one- size-fits-all uniform approach. What was often, too often, left out were, quite frankly, the bona fide local needs. A uniform Federal approach stifles innovation with the heavy hand of Federal regulations and professionalism.
The philosophy behind H.R. 27, therefore, is to give Governors as the chief political officer of the States the flexibility over job training programs to promote economic development and jobs based upon local needs, and that way, the States become responsive to employment and to job markets.
Recently, I attended a community college, a community technical college in my district. And I was amazed at the benefits I saw of partnerships with local private industry, government contractors, and local employers coming together. In their diesel program, to find the kinds of materials that were provided by the industry, they have to get hands-on experience for first-rate technicians. And in program after program in that particular college, I saw, through innovation and hard work, the community college has been able to leverage the State and Federal dollars and to attract private contributions for equipment and training that met the need of training qualified workers in the high- tech future.
Vocational rehabilitation services in State after State does the same thing. But these type partnerships are not just allowed in this bill. They are encouraged under this legislation, which is vital in helping provide workers for the competition of the 21st century.
H.R. 27 is strongly supported by a coalition of community colleges which authorizes $250 million for community-based job training grants to strengthen the role of those communities' colleges and to promote the United States' full workforce potential.
We face a 21st-century challenge in an ever-changing technology and the aging American workforce. We must provide States, local workforce boards, Governors flexibility to fit real people with real skills for real jobs. And they vary in need from State to State. We must allow them the opportunity to work together as they see fit to help people like Micaela.
I further support H.R. 27 because it targets Federal funds to groups of youths who are presently underserved, because it provides for individual self-help efforts.
I would like to point out also that H.R. 27 builds upon legislation passed in the 108th Congress, namely H.R. 1261, the Workforce Reinvestment and Adult Education Act of 2003, which was passed by this House.
There may be some who would oppose this bill because it respects both the letter and the spirit of existing law. If there is a problem with existing law, this is not the proper venue for that discussion.
Let us not, in the debate over the rule or the bill, lose focus and lose sight of our goal, which is to help the Micaelas of this Nation who need services, which are and will continue to be distributed fairly without precondition.
It is significant that we not confuse services rendered with the desire of some to sanitize and regulate legally diverse practices, reaffirmed in a rare moment of sanity by the courts, which do not impact the rendering of those employment services. Others beside sanctioned-government programs care and help and are effective, and we ought to forget the old pattern of confrontation and pointless attacks on groups that we see as different; we should join for the common goal of helping people.
Mr. Speaker, this is a good rule, supporting a bill that has been discussed and amended in committee through regular order. The rule allows for three specific amendments to focus discussion on key elements of the proposal. I am looking forward to riveting debate on this bill, with the realization our goal is to help the Micaelas of this world who have been hurt because there have been programs which are too high, too far away, and forgot our purpose of helping real people. I urge adoption of the rule.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Chairman Boehner).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 8 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Ehlers).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
May I respond simply to the arguments about our veterans because they are so important to us. Let me reiterate that H.R. 27 does not harm worker-retaining programs for veterans. Not one dollar from this account comes that is meant to help veterans with their training. The programs that we already have in place, specifically the Disabled Veterans' Outreach Program, the Local Veterans Employment Representative Program, the Vocational Rehabilitation Program, already are required to contribute to the infrastructure of these one-stop career center programs. Any money that would come to the one-stop center would be coming out of their administrative funds, not from the money going directly to the training of veterans. That is an area that was specifically covered in this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
In closing, my friends on the other side have had numerous objections to provisions in H.R. 27. They have a right to do so and I expect it will be warmly discussed in the ensuing discussion of the bill itself. I believe strongly in the ability of our States, Governors, local boards, workforce boards, to be creative and innovative. There is no omniscient power that we have here. People can think for themselves in other parts of this country. And the essence of our government demands that we give them the opportunity to succeed without the benevolent help of the Federal Government.
Our job, might I remind my colleagues, is to make sure the Micaelas of the world never slip through the cracks. I believe, and I have confidence in the ability of local governments to be creative and effective, and I think so does H.R. 27. What we have today is a confusing patchwork of employment, training services. The duplication of those reduces the amount of money we get to use to help Micaelas. Many amendments that we will be discussing
on the floor have also been discussed in committee. A lot of other amendments were heard in the committee. This was fully discussed in committee and voted upon.
May I just, in closing, ask us not to lose sight that the goal is service and how to provide training for people which is given without any precondition. Hiring practices that are protected by existing law are that, protected by existing law. If we feel there is a problem with that, then we should attack the existing law, and there are venues to do that. This is not the venue in this particular bill. Faith-based institutions out there, which are not rich, are still nevertheless effective. They care. They have the same goal as we do. Our goal should be to try to join hands to help all the Micaelas in the world solve the problem of employment, retraining, and servicing, not to try to change our friends in other particular ways but to join together on a common front, in a common effort, to help people, not to harm people.
Mr. Speaker, in closing, I urge adoption of the rule and the underlying legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I move the previous question on the resolution.
The previous question was ordered.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, as we stand here today we continue to see significant progress toward greater economic opportunity and prosperity across the…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, as we stand here today we continue to see significant progress toward greater economic opportunity and prosperity across the country. More than 2.7 million new jobs have been created over the last 17 months, and the unemployment rate has fallen to 5.2 percent, the lowest level since September 2001. Our economy is strong and it is getting stronger.
The backbone of a strong economy is a well-trained and highly skilled workforce, and it is absolutely critical for workers to have the education and skills necessary to adapt to new opportunities and to move into higher wages.
Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan agreed with this view when he testified before the Committee on Education and the Workforce last year. The chairman said, ``We need to increase our efforts to ensure that as many of our citizens as possible have the opportunity to capture the benefits of the changing economy. One critical element in creating that opportunity is the provision of rigorous education and ongoing training to all members of our society.''
Chairman Greenspan this morning testified before Congress and talked about the need to do a better job with our education system and better training and retraining of American workers.
The bill before us, the Job Training Improvement Act, would achieve this objective by strengthening the Nation's job training system. In 1998, Congress established a system of one-stop career centers aimed at providing one convenient central location to offer job training and related employment services. While these reforms have been generally successful, the Workforce Investment Act system is still hampered by bureaucracy and duplication that prevents it from being as effective as it could be for workers and their families.
Our bill includes a number of reforms aimed at strengthening our job training system and better engaging the business community to improve job training services.
Our bill includes a number of reforms. First, requiring State and local workforce investment boards to ensure the job training programs reflect the employment needs in local areas. Secondly, allowing training for currently employed workers so employees can upgrade their skills and avoid layoffs. Third, encouraging the highest caliber providers, including community colleges, to offer training through the one-stop system, and leveraging other public and private resources to increase training and opportunities.
The bill also includes other important reforms. First, it consolidates the three adult WIA training programs, giving States and local communities greater flexibility and enabling more job seekers to be served with no reduction in services.
In addition, it targets 70 percent of the youth grant funds to out- of-school youth, an underserved population that faces significant challenges in finding meaningful employment.
The bill includes a proposal passed by the House last year introduced by the gentleman from Nevada (Mr. Porter) to create personal reemployment accounts of up to $3,000 to help unemployed Americans purchase job training and other employment-related services, such as child care, transportation services and housing assistance, giving them the flexibility they need in order to gain meaningful employment. In addition, it includes the President's community college proposal to strengthen the partnership between local businesses, community colleges, and the local one-stop delivery system.
Later today, we will consider an amendment from my colleague from Virginia to strip the faith-based provisions from this bill, an amendment that would deny faith-based providers their rights under the historic 1964 Civil Rights Act. When we considered this bill in committee, we twice rejected it on a bipartisan basis, and I urge all Members to vote against it today. The 1964 Civil Rights Act made clear that when faith-based groups hire employees on a religious basis, it can exercise the group's civil rights liberties and not discriminate under Federal law. In 1987, the Supreme Court unanimously upheld this right.
As my colleagues can see from the chart that I have next to me, former President Bill Clinton signed four laws allowing faith-based groups to staff on a religious basis when they receive those Federal funds. Those four laws are the 1996 welfare reform law; the 1998 Community Services Block Grant Act; the 2000 Community Renewal Tax Relief Act; and the 2000 Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration Act, all allowing faith-based providers to preserve their rights under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Our Nation's faith-based institutions have a proven track record in meeting the training and counseling needs of
our citizens. Why would we want to deny them the opportunity to help in Federal job training efforts? President Bush repeated this call to empower faith-based providers both during his State of the Union address and again yesterday. I can think of no better place to start than to protect the rights of faith-based groups who are willing to lend a helping hand in providing job training and other critical social services to the most needy of our citizens.
I want to thank the gentleman from California (Mr. McKeon) for his work in putting this bill together, a bill that is supported by a broad and diverse coalition of groups, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the National Association of Counties, the National Association of Workforce Boards, the National Workforce Association, the Coalition to Preserve Religious Freedom and the Salvation Army, amongst others.
We are part of a dynamic economy that is constantly creating new and different types of jobs, so the knowledge and skills of each job seeker is absolutely critical in determining their success or failure. If we are going to help them succeed, then strengthening our job training programs is essential. The bill, I believe, accomplishes that goal.
Unfortunately, the only plan that my colleagues on the other side have put forward to address the needs of American workers is the status quo. Their plan fails to reduce duplication and inefficiency, it fails to give States and local communities more flexibility, and it fails to take advantage of the positive role that faith-based institutions play in our communities and the success they have in providing critical social services to those most in need.
Mr. Chairman, the status quo is no plan at all. I ask my colleagues to support the underlying bill.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I am pleased to yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. McKeon), the author of the bill, the chairman of the Subcommittee on 21st Century Competitiveness.
Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Chairman, I want to thank the gentleman from Texas for raising this issue. Data on young adults participating in adult education programs is important information for our committee as well as for the adult education programs and for school districts to keep in mind as we work to raise our high school completion rates. And it is my understanding that this is information that the Department already collects but has not been a focus in program reporting.
Mr. Chairman, again I want to thank the gentleman for his work on this issue. I will continue to work with him and the Department to ensure that we have the necessary information to carefully monitor the participation of high school-aged students in adult education programs.
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Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. I urge the body to adopt this rule and to pass the bill. I will be addressing just one particular topic which has been controversial in…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. I urge the body to adopt this rule and to pass the bill.
I will be addressing just one particular topic which has been controversial in committee discussions and will be the subject of an amendment later on, and that is turning the clock back on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and changing what it says. Those who are opposed to this bill on that ground believe that somehow it is wrong to allow religious institutions to receive Federal funds for programs that benefit the public at large, are not restricted to people of particular faith but are operated by organizations that are religiously based.
I have listened carefully to the debate in the committee. We have had this same debate several times in committee. I have yet to understand precisely what the objections are, but it seems that opponents are afraid of two things: one, that this provision in the bill somehow will allow these organizations to discriminate on other grounds in their hiring, which is, first, contrary to the Civil Rights Act, and second, I would say religious organizations are the least likely to discriminate on the basis of race or any of the other forbidden categories.
The other objection appears to be that somehow these churches are going to use this Federal money to try to proselytize, to get people in these programs and then they will say, okay, now isn't this wonderful, you should join this church.
I would like to say, that is also not true. It just does not happen. I can speak from my personal experience. When my wife and I moved to Grand Rapids, Michigan, in 1966 to take on a new position, we looked for a church. In fact, we spent 3 months trying out different churches, looking, trying to find a certain something: we wanted a church in the inner city because we wanted to be able to contribute to solving the problems of the city of Grand Rapids, particularly in the inner city.
And so we joined Eastern Avenue Christian Reformed Church because of its location and because of the attitude of its people. They worked very hard in the community. As an example, they established a community center. There was none at that time either federally funded, State funded, or city funded. The church stepped in and started it. It was on the top story of a ramshackle building which housed a small convenience store in the lower floor. It grew slowly at first, but then took off. Today it is a large community center, one of the best, if not the best, in the city. They purchased a school which was being abandoned, filled up that
school, and they now have just successfully completed a $2.5 million capital drive to add on to their facilities and improve them.
Our church started that. We did have and still largely do have religious restrictions on the hiring of individuals, but the facility serves all people in that community. It has brought in medical care workers of all faiths to work and provide medical care and dental care for the recipients in that community.
We started a housing program which turned into the Inner City Christian Federation, and we spun off this organization as well as Baxter Community Center, but they are still largely faith-based organizations. ICCF, the Inner City Christian Federation, developed housing programs, and they had built many houses before Habitat for Humanity started in our community; but ICCF has built and remodeled more houses than almost any organization within the city that I am aware of. Again, it is faith-based. The employees are hired partially on the basis of their faith and their commitment to serving in the inner city and often work for less pay than they could get elsewhere.
Our church, not our individual congregation, but our denomination started a mental health institution, Pine Rest, years ago because the people of our church and of our community were not getting adequate mental care. Today it is one of the largest mental health hospitals in our Nation. It serves many people of different faiths and of no faith, but it is a faith-based institution because their treatment modalities are based, to a large extent, on our beliefs about the nature of people and their interaction with each other. It has been very successful. It has received millions upon millions of dollars of aid from the Federal Government, from the State through community mental health funds and from the local community.
No one has ever said a word about this, that using Federal money for this is improper. The reason is simply that Pine Rest provides services that really are unequaled anywhere else. And so they have received Federal dollars through Medicaid and through Medicare, and State dollars through community mental health. It is an outstanding operation.
Then, finally, something we have ongoing in our church right now. Every Saturday, I wish you could visit our church; you would see people of all races, all colors, all faiths walking in the church basement which we have stocked with food that we have collected from different stores, warehouses and so forth: produce, baked goods, and many different types of perishable food.
We have purchased a truck to go around and collect this on Fridays. And Saturday morning anyone from that city can walk in with no test of their faith, no means test, they can just walk in and say, I need some groceries, and they go through the line. We charge them roughly 10 cents on the dollar because we think it is a good thing for them to feel they have bought something; but a family of four can buy a week's worth of groceries for about $10. That is a good deal. It is staffed by people from our church and from other churches, and it is a very successful operation. If we adopt the Scott amendment, which we will be discussing later, we simply could not do that.
There is one other factor here as well, and that is every church that I am aware of does not have a surplus of money. The people that they hire have to do many different jobs. That is true in our church as well. We have hired individuals who work in the church. Those individuals not only operate programs such as the food program, or getting community centers started, but they also have duties within the church and by necessity, and clearly within the intent of the Civil Rights Act, they are performing religious duties. A church cannot go out and afford to hire a different person to run each different program. You have to be multifaceted to be on the staff of a church, and that is precisely what we have in our church.
For these reasons, and many others I could enumerate, I urge the Congress to pass this rule and this bill, and to defeat the Scott amendment, so that churches and faith-based organizations of other sorts can continue to do their good work for the people of this country without fear of their programs being damaged because they would have to hire additional personnel who do not have a faith compatible with the organization.
I believe the system as we have it now, and have had it since the 1964 Civil Rights Act, has worked, it has worked well, and I urge that we keep it that way and not adopt the Scott amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the amendment offered by my colleague the Ranking Member of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Mr. Scott along with Ms. Woolsey, Mr. Van Hollen, Mr. Frank, Mr.…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the amendment offered by my colleague the Ranking Member of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Mr. Scott along with Ms. Woolsey, Mr. Van Hollen, Mr. Frank, Mr. Edwards, and Mr. Nadler, to the base bill, H.R. 27. As I stated with respect to the rule, H. Res. 126, the party-line vote of 220-204 that we saw in the 108th Congress on the debate of the then H.R. 1261 should evidence the need for the most open debate over the deficiencies that lie within the provisions on the floor. The need for debate arises from disagreement. As representatives of the United States Congress, we all have a duty to fully debate the issues on behalf of our constituents. A restricted rule precludes that opportunity.
I support the Scott-Woolsey-VanHollen-Frank-Edwards-Nadler amendment to H.R. 27 to remove the provision allowing religious discrimination in employment from the underlying bill. A base bill purportedly designed to improve the opportunity to achieve adequate employment is no place to encourage discrimination. In fact, there is no place for religious discrimination in American law just as there should be no place in America for that kind of backwards thinking.
H.R. 27, in its current state, erodes fundamental civil rights protections for the unemployed and the underemployed by exempting faith-based organizations from compliance with the current non- discrimination law. Presently, under our country's existing laws, in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, employing institutions using private funds were exempt from employment discrimination protections. However, WIA programs are federally funded and as such do not fall under the jurisdiction of the Title VII statute. Simply put: Public funds are not allowed to be used to encourage religious discrimination in employment and that should not change.
Each of my colleagues should understand that without this important amendment, we are advocating the notion that one's ability to provide employment to those who are in need is contingent on the religious institution to which the individual belongs. What if anything is accomplished by attempting to create religious hierarchies in the workplace? What benefit does that provide the employer? None. And thus the language allowing religious discrimination should be stricken from the bill. As should all language that does not add to the well being of job-seekers or employment services.
The Founding Fathers of this country found it necessary to say that no one should be unfairly judged or discriminated against on the basis of their religion. This Congress should do no less. We should not create law that does harm. We should not encourage discrimination of any kind, religious or otherwise.
Surely, this country prides itself on its diversity and its willingness to open its doors to people of different religions, races, and ethnic backgrounds. Yet on the floor of the people's House we are faced with an attempt by the Republicans to create a monolithic sub- culture within our employment training programs. Despite the rhetoric on the other side of the aisle, H.R. 27 as it currently reads will not only result in the loss of jobs for applicants who do not identify with their prospective employer's religious beliefs but more importantly it will cause the loss of quality workers.
The Scott-Woolsey-Van Hollen-Frank-Edwards-Nadler amendment will effectively retain civil rights protections for individuals who seek employment or employment training. This amendment simply retains their freedom of religious choice and their freedom not to be discriminated against due to their religion. This amendment adds nothing to the law rather it maintains current law. Without the addition of this proposal, however, the body elected to serve all of the people of this country will have endorsed employment discrimination with federal dollars. We simply cannot allow this to happen. We must do everything we can to preserve the fundamentals of Head Start. I urge my colleagues to vote to ensure that our job programs are not muddied and degraded by the promotion of religious discrimination. Therefore, I stand in full support of this amendment and I urge my colleagues to do the same.
Mr. Chairman, I rise to support the Tierney amendment, and I thank the distinguished gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Kildee) for yielding me this time and also for his leadership. I also want to thank the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney) for his leadership. I know he was very thoughtful in this amendment.
Particularly when we talk about these programs, what comes to mind, and I heard the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Kildee) be so eloquent in the Committee on Rules about the effectiveness and the importance of a training program, number one, for the new jobs of the 21st century. I am reminded of the fact that I spent a good part of my time as a locally elected official on the Houston City Council promoting the job training programs of our community that came down through the workforce board commissions in Texas.
When you eliminate summer jobs, you are literally undermining the opportunities for inner-city and rural youth to move to the next level of opportunity. You are extinguishing the right and the exposure that they have for career preparation. You go into these youth training programs and you look at the smiles on the faces of individuals who have come from experiences where there was no work, where their families are unemployed, and where there is no hope and opportunity.
I am very disappointed, in addition, to the cut in youth programs, and the fact that we are now getting rid of the veterans' preference for job training, actually cutting funds. What an outrage. With a million people having served in Afghanistan and Iraq; with the devastation of the impact of those returning veterans, with their emotional problems and injuries, and now we are suggesting to them that they are not worthy of a job preference.
Let me also say that when you block-grant these dollars, you block- grant job training away. That is what this program does; and in particular, it sends away this opportunity.
My last point is that I might beg to differ with the chairman of this particular distinguished committee. There is discrimination in this bill. And, frankly, I think we should follow the Kildee model, who said that he knew a priest in Detroit who had a job training program who made sure that there was no discrimination, whether someone is a Muslim, whether they are Jewish or Catholic or Protestant. A program that is based upon religion and allows someone to deny you the opportunity for a job or a training position under the auspices of being a particular faith and being in charge of that particular program is discrimination under title VII in the 1964 Civil Rights Bill or under any discrimination law that has been passed in America and that exists today.
Frankly, I believe this bill, even in its presence on the floor of the House, should go no further than this House; and I ask my colleagues to support the Tierney amendment, but to oppose the underlying bill.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. Mr. Chairman I yield myself 1 minute and 15 seconds. Mr. Chairman, I made a previous statement on this amendment during the consideration of the rule, so let me…
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman I yield myself 1 minute and 15 seconds.
Mr. Chairman, I made a previous statement on this amendment during the consideration of the rule, so let me just say that this amendment is offered along with my colleagues, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Woolsey), the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Van Hollen), the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Frank), the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards) and the gentleman from New York (Mr. Nadler) in order to preserve and maintain civil rights protections as they currently appear in job training law.
Current law prohibits sponsors of job training programs from discriminating in hiring based on race or religion. This amendment will keep the law the way it has been since 1965. We have heard some comments about title VII. Title VII gives the religious organization an exemption to discriminate with its own money. It was never intended to apply to Federal money.
In any event, there has been no discrimination in job training programs with Federal money, whether it is faith-based sponsored or otherwise since 1965.
Speakers have suggested that religious organizations have barriers to participation. They do not say what the barrier is. The barrier is that you cannot discriminate in employment with the Federal money. Any program that can get funded under this new language in the bill could be funded anyway under the traditional funding, no discrimination, if the sponsor would agree not to discriminate in employment. That has been the rule since 1965.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Woolsey), a cosponsor of the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Van Hollen), a cosponsor of the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Frank), a cosponsor of the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, we are revisiting the civil rights laws. There has been no discrimination since 1965, and that is exactly what we are revisiting.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. George Miller), the ranking member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Nadler), a cosponsor of the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. Grijalva).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews).
(Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself 2 minutes.
Mr. Chairman, we keep hearing that we are discriminating against religious organizations in terms of participation in government contracts. That is not true. The fact is that they can participate. When you talk about a barrier, say what the barrier is. The barrier is, there is a level playing field; you cannot discriminate.
We have also heard a lot about the 1964 Civil Rights Act. What has not been said is since 1965 there has been a specific prohibition against discrimination in Federal contracts. You have not been able to discriminate in a job training program since 1965. In fact, for defense contracts, you have not been able to discriminate since 1941.
We also heard, Mr. Chairman, about the hiring for Planned Parenthood, I believe, and what your position is on abortion or gun control or something. In the 1960s, Mr. Chairman, we passed civil rights laws to respond to our sorry history of bigotry, and we designated specific protected classes where you could not discriminate in employment, race, color, creed, national origin and sex; and you cannot discriminate against those protected classes.
There is a difference between telling somebody they cannot get a job because I do not like your position on gun control and we do not hire blacks or Jews. Race and religion are protected classes; positions on gun control and abortion are not, and there is a difference.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 6 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, this amendment does not propose any new initiative. The adoption of this amendment will simply keep the law the way it has been in job training programs since 1965.
Much has been said about court cases. None of those court cases involved Federal money. They involve church money and what the church can do with its church money; and whether it is religious or secular activities, it is still the church's money, not Federal money.
Since 1965 there has been no discrimination with Federal money, at least until these faith-based initiatives came along. In fact, since 1941 there has been no discrimination in defense contracts, without exception. So if you want to sell the Army some rifles, if you discriminate in employment, the Army will not buy those rifles from you.
Mr. Chairman, a lot has been said about the Clinton administration. Let me say I will be introducing into the Record statements made at the signing of those bills outlining the interpretation of the Clinton administration, outlining why there would be no discrimination in employment under the Clinton administration, notwithstanding the language in those various bills.
There has been no discrimination against faith-based organizations. Speakers have suggested that they cannot get contracts. The fact of the matter is that they can get contracts. In fact, anybody that can get funded under the underlying bill could be funded if the organization would simply agree not to discriminate in employment.
In 1964, a gentleman during the debate on the floor said in terms of whether or not you can get the money,
``Stop the discrimination, get the money; continue the discrimination, do not get the money.''
That is what we are talking about here. Telling somebody that they are not qualified for a federally paid-for job because of religion is wrong. Adopt my amendment and we will keep the law the way it has been since 1965.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I have a point of order.
If it is true that they cannot discriminate with the Federal money, but can discriminate with the church money, is the statement that the gentleman mentioned, true or not?
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time. Mr. Speaker, we have heard a lot about the amendment I will be offering. I will be offering it in conjunction with the gentlewoman from California…
I thank the gentleman for yielding me this time.
Mr. Speaker, we have heard a lot about the amendment I will be offering. I will be offering it in conjunction with the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Woolsey), the gentleman from Maryland (Mr. Van Hollen), the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Frank), the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Edwards), and the gentleman from New York (Mr. Nadler) in order to preserve and maintain civil rights protections as they currently appear in the job training laws. Current law prohibits sponsors of job training programs from discriminating based on race or religion, and that policy goes back decades. For decades, our country has prohibited discrimination in hiring with Federal funds.
In 1941, President Roosevelt ordered a prohibition against discrimination in all defense contracts. In other words, since 1941, our national policy has been that even if you can build better and cheaper rifles, the Army will not buy them from you if you discriminate in employment. The Civil Rights Act passed in 1964, and it prohibited discrimination; but it included an exception for religious organizations, but that exception was limited to the context of the religious organizations using their own money. In 1965, President Johnson banned discrimination in all government contracts without exception.
In job training programs specifically, this Congress passed in 1982 the Job Training Partnership Act with bipartisan support. In that Act, Congress included a nondiscrimination clause without exception, and that remains the statutory requirement in job training requirement programs today. That policy will change and discrimination will be allowed if my amendment is not adopted.
So let us be clear. This is not a debate about religious organizations having the right to participate in job training programs. They already do. As the current law stands, and my amendment would keep that law intact, Catholic, Jewish, Lutheran, Baptist, and other religious organizations already get hundreds of millions dollars today to run job training and other federally funded programs. Religious organizations do not need Section 129 in the
bill to sponsor federally funded job training programs. They need that section in order to discriminate in hiring with Federal dollars. My amendment would delete Section 129 and maintain the law against discrimination.
Moreover, Mr. Speaker, when the government refuses to prohibit discrimination based on religion, it cannot effectively enforce laws against discrimination based on race or national origin. Many churches are all virtually white; others virtually all black. So if they restrict hiring based on their religious organization, they can effectively discriminate based on race. And if we do not enforce discrimination laws in Federal contracts with secular programs, where is our moral authority to tell private employers who may be devoutly religious that they cannot discriminate with their private money?
Mr. Speaker, for 40 years, if an employer had a problem hiring the best qualified applicant because of discrimination based on race or religion, that employer had a problem because the weight of the Federal Government was behind the victim of discrimination. The underlying, without my amendment, proposes to shift the weight of the Federal Government from supporting the victim of discrimination to supporting some so-called right to discriminate with Federal funds. That is a profound change in civil rights protection.
Mr. Speaker, we have heard the majority try to defend the discrimination with misleading and poll-tested rhetoric. For example, I read in a Dear Colleague that the bill is one that would ``restore hiring protections for faith-based organizations participating in federal job training programs.'' Mr. Speaker, Section 129 does not restore anything. People have not been able to discriminate in Federal contracts since 1965 and specifically not in any job training program since 1982. If anything is being restored, it is the ugly practice of discrimination that existed before the 1960s.
The Dear Colleague went on to say that Congress needs to ``continue to uphold the basic civil right of America's religious organizations to hire the staff they judge to be best qualified to carry out their programs and missions when they provide job training assistance.'' Mr. Speaker, the language fails to say that they can hire whoever they want to promote their religious missions with the church money. But with the Federal money, they have got to hire the best qualified for the Federal mission the tax dollars were appropriated to promote without discrimination. Funds appropriated under this bill are not gifts or grants to churches. They are contracts for government services, and we should honor the tradition begun in 1941, which prohibits discrimination.
And, finally, Mr. Speaker, Dear Colleague talks about barriers that exist to prevent faith-based organizations from fully participating in government-sponsored programs, but it does not say what the barrier is. In fact, the only barrier is one cannot discriminate. Any program that can get funded under the underlying bill could be funded without Section 129 if the sponsoring organization would agree not to discriminate in employment. As a representative said during the debate on the Civil Rights Act of 1964, he said, ``Stop the discrimination, get the money; continue the discrimination, do not get the money.''
Employment discrimination is ugly. We can put lipstick on a pick, but we cannot pass it off as a beauty queen, and we cannot dress up ``we do not hire Catholics and Jews'' with poll-tested semantics and euphemisms and pass it off as anything other than ugly discrimination.
Mr. Speaker, religious organizations actively supported the Civil Rights Act 40 years ago. Today they support the nondiscrimination provision in the Workforce Investment Act the way it is and they oppose Section 129.
Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to oppose the bill unless traditional civil rights protections are included.
Mr. Chairman, I want to further elaborate on the last point in this amendment's attack on religious liberty in the United States, that in fact the interpretation in the Presiding Bishop v. Amos, the…
Mr. Chairman, I want to further elaborate on the last point in this amendment's attack on religious liberty in the United States, that in fact the interpretation in the Presiding Bishop v. Amos, the Supreme Court unanimously upheld the language permitting religious organizations to staff on a religious basis in matters concerning employment when they receive Federal funds, in a unanimous decision.
Finding that the exemption did not violate the establishment clause, the Supreme Court has made it clear that it is ``a permissible legislative purpose to alleviate significant governmental interference with the ability of religious organizations to define and carry out their religious missions.''
Even where the content of their activities is secular, in the sense that activities do not include religious teaching, proselytizing, or worship, and it is very important for everybody to understand, we all agree you cannot have prayer, you cannot proselytize, you cannot use government funds for anything but a secular purpose in job training, Justice Brennan, hardly a conservative, said that even if a religious organization is providing job training, which would be a secular thing, it is likely to be infused with a religious purpose. In other words, the motivation of the individuals probably is religious.
He also recognized that churches and other religious entities ``often regard the provision of such services as a means of fulfilling religious duty and of providing an example of the way of life a church seeks to foster.'' He is perhaps one of the greatest liberal justices of all time. And then he recognized that preserving the title VII protections when religious organizations engage in social services is a necessary element of religious freedom.
This attempt to redefine the Supreme Court in today's debate is unfortunate. It is, in my opinion, bigotry against many religious people in the United States who would like to provide assistance to the poor, who would like to leverage their funds, their volunteer time, their churches, but are being told that even though they accept everybody in, even though they cannot proselytize with it, that they are not welcome to participate, they are going to have their liberties taken away.
For example, a case we often hear, well, they can set up a 501(c)3 or not have that reach, but Catholic Charities, an organization that historically has taken funds and it is often held up, the California Supreme Court just said that because Catholic Charities offers secular services to clients and does not directly preach Catholic values, it is therefore not a religious organization. Therefore, the court ruled that Catholic Charities must provide services contrary to their religious principles.
Furthermore, as we take the logical extension of this which we are dealing with in whether we provide buses and computers to private schools and which will certainly come up in education bills in front of our committee, one of the questions is, if those funds run through the bishop's office, does in fact the reach of the funds that go for buses and for computers, which the court has ruled a computer does not do the proselytizing, the software does the proselytizing, will this reach back in because the governance of Catholic Charities ultimately comes back to the bishop's office?
Court rulings are increasingly tilting that direction because we have falsely interpreted what is religious liberty in the United States and that we have to make it clear in these bills which, as the chairman has pointed out, have passed this House multiple times, the President of the United States in many of these was not President Bush pushing a faith-based initiative, but President Clinton. And as the Member from Maryland has pointed out, he did not enthusiastically say this was going to be upheld; but the fact is over the objections of many on his side, he supported it.
Former Vice President Gore has said specifically that religious organizations should not have to change their religious character in order to participate. What does religious character mean? It means that if you are an Orthodox Jewish group and you are going to serve everybody in your community, that you get to be an Orthodox Jewish group; if you are an evangelical group that believes in the resurrection of Jesus Christ, that people who represent your organization should share that belief; if you are a Muslim group, that people who represent that group should share that.
The fundamental question here is, and through my Subcommittee on Criminal Justice and Human Services we held eight hearings across the United States and we had a great debate in every region of the country, but many organizations came forth, whether they were Muslim, Jewish or Christian in some form, and said, we cannot compromise the nature of our faith if you are going to make us change our hiring practices.
So what we are saying, by trying to take away their religious liberty, if they want to provide secular services, that we are discriminating and changing policy contrary to what President Clinton has supported, contrary to what President Bush has supported, contrary to the different nominees of both parties; and it will be a sad day if this Congress after bipartisan efforts for the last 5 to 8 years to push this type of legislation to allow these faith-based groups at the table would go backwards and say, you are no longer welcome, you are not invited to help anymore, you are off the table.
I believe that the Members, and I know one argument is that we had these debates in the middle of the night, I believe Members actually looked at those bills and they knew what they were voting for, and I hope they will not flip-flop today.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Pitts).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Price), a member of the Committee on Education and the Workforce.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposition to this bill. This bill is nearly identical to the WIA bill that passed this House last Congress on…
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposition to this bill. This bill is nearly identical to the WIA bill that passed this House last Congress on a near party-line vote. It was a bad bill then, and it remains a bad bill now.
H.R. 27 represents a missed opportunity to ensure that more, not less, job training happens for the millions who are unemployed or looking to upgrade their skills. This legislation fails to increase the amount of actual training services that will be provided to unemployed, dislocated, and underemployed workers. Instead, this legislation focuses on moving around and changing the bureaucratic elements of WIA without focusing on getting more resources to the consumers of these programs.
H.R. 27 is largely the same proposal backed by the administration for the past 2 years. Just a few weeks ago, President Bush spoke to individuals in Omaha, Nebraska. There he met a woman in her late 50s who is a mother of three children. She told him that presently she was working three jobs to ensure she could provide for her family. The President's response was the following, and I quote exactly: ``Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.''
What insensitivity. Is this the attitude of this administration when it comes to the challenges of working adults and families? I think this quote from the President speaks for itself. It will go down in history with Marie Antoinette's famous quote: ``Let them eat cake.''
Mr. Chairman, this bill is not going to help this mother of three or the millions of Americans seeking job training. This bill is objectionable for four primary reasons.
First, the bill block-grants the adult worker, dislocated worker, and employment service program. This effectively repeals the Wagner-Peyser Act and the employment service, the national program used to match job seekers with employment opportunities. Termination of the employment service will translate into higher unemployment and less jobs.
The elimination of the employment service and Wagner-Peyser marks another example of the Republican majority terminating a New Deal program. Wagner-Peyser was first enacted in June of 1933 in the first term of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It is shameful that we are eliminating a 70-year-old program that has helped so many achieve and maintain work. In my hometown of Flint, Michigan, we had two parts of the unemployment office, one where you applied for the unemployment benefits and the other where you went in and were seeking a job and they would put the unemployed and an employer together. That would be decimated by this bill.
Second, H.R. 27 allows Governors to siphon off resources currently providing veterans, adult learners, and individuals with disabilities with critical services. Instead of helping vulnerable and needy individuals, these resources would fund infrastructure costs of the one-stop centers. Many of these individuals have nowhere else to turn to receive help, and this bill would exacerbate this problem.
H.R. 27 requires programs which provide these critical services to give up resources, but it also takes away any say over how they are allocated or used. They no longer will have a voice on the local boards. We should not be taking funds from these programs. These lost resources will translate into disruptions and lost opportunities to people who presently rely on these services. We should provide a separate source of funding for these one-stop centers.
Third, the bill allows discrimination in hiring based on religion with WIA funds. The bill turns back the clock on decades of civil rights protections in our job training programs. This is simply wrong. Focus Hope in Detroit, Michigan, is one of the best, if not the best, job training program in the State of Michigan. Focus Hope was run until his death by Father William Cunningham, a classmate of mine in the seminary. He trained thousands of people in inner-city Detroit as a Catholic priest assigned by his bishop there, and he did not care whether those who were training people to run a lathe, to do engineering or whatever it was, he did not care whether they were Catholic, whether they were Protestant, whether they were Morman, Muslim or had no faith at all. All he cared was they knew how to teach what they were teaching. That was a very important and effective program. He did not need to discriminate to carry out his duties. I strongly urge Members to support the Scott amendment today that will be offered later during debate to remedy this major shortcoming in this legislation.
Finally, Mr. Chairman, H.R. 27 creates personal reemployment accounts which voucherize the job training system and cuts individuals off from other training services. The money they do not spend to get a job, they can keep and use for any purpose. Workers do not need a bribe to get back to work. Research on similar schemes have proven that PRAs are not an effective means of providing job training.
Mr. Chairman, this bill does not respond to the needs of underemployed and unemployed individuals. It misses an opportunity to improve our job training system. I urge Members to join me in opposing passage of this legislation.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentleman from Washington (Mr. McDermott).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Andrews).
(Mr. ANDREWS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hinojosa).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentlewoman from Washington, D.C. (Ms. Norton).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Woolsey).
(Ms. WOOLSEY asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, back in 1998, Congress enacted the Workforce Investment Act, which established a system for a one-stop career centers aimed at providing one convenient central location to offer job…
Mr. Chairman, back in 1998, Congress enacted the Workforce Investment Act, which established a system for a one-stop career centers aimed at providing one convenient central location to offer job training and other employment-related services.
While these reforms have largely been a success, the system is still hampered by inefficiency, duplication, and unnecessary bureaucracy. The bill that we are approving today aims to strengthen training services for job seekers accomplishes these goals in several ways: Particularly by streamlining bureaucracy and eliminating duplication; consolidating the three adult WIA training programs, giving States and local communities greater flexibility, and enabling more job seekers to be served with no reduction in services; removing arbitrary barriers that prevent individuals from accessing job training services immediately; strengthening partnerships between local businesses, communities colleges and the local one-stop delivery system; enhancing vocational rehabilitation to help individuals with disabilities; and improving allocation and literacy for adults to ensure they gain the knowledge and skills necessary to find employment, including language proficiency.
I want to thank the chairman on the committee for adopting two amendments I have introduced to enhance further employability of the limited English proficient calculation by providing necessary skills, training and English language instruction. I believe this will help tremendously, especially the Hispanic populations throughout the country.
I believe that the backbone of a strong economy and a strong society is a well-trained and highly-skilled workforce. The bill on the floor today is an excellent source to achieve that goal. This bill includes a number of reforms aimed at strengthening our Nation's job training system and better engaging the business community to improve job training services.
It accomplishes this by requiring State and local workforce investment boards to ensure the job training programs reflect the employment needs in local areas; also allowing training for currently employed workers so employers can upgrade workers' skills and avoid layoffs; encouraging the highest caliber providers, including community colleges, to offer training through the one-stop system; leveraging other public and private resources to increase training opportunities; and increasing connections to economic development programs.
The bill reauthorizes the Rehabilitation Act of 1993, the primary Federal program designed to assist individuals with disabilities to prepare for, obtain and retain employment to live independently; and furthermore, it includes transition services for students with disabilities moving from secondary education into post-secondary activities that can only be determined as a possible alternative to address the needs of those in special needs.
I am convinced that H.R. 27 is a valuable tool to achieve that goal we all have set our minds to. And that is none other than creating a better and strong economy and society that will be prepared to compete in a changing and demanding new world that rises as we speak.
Mr. Chairman, the discussion today is really about protecting the mission of those religious organizations that some of the Members here are proposing that we regulate even further in spite of the wonderful job they are doing to work with our social ills. It is also about preserving the strength and integrity of religious organizations that engage in this type of social work. It is not a license we are looking for to impose particular religious beliefs, but a guarantee to protect the administrative integrity that is part of each religious group that engages in this type of work.
Faith-based and community-based organizations are far better suited than a government bureaucracy to address these issues and produce results. Key to their success is a unifying roll they often play in their communities, as well as their proximity to individuals and communities in need.
This is especially true, I must say, of the Hispanic American population. Hispanic Americans traditionally, in following their traditional values and beliefs, often turn to faith-based and community organizations for help. By channeling social services through these organizations, we can avoid losing members of this community in our society.
However, what some today are trying to do here is essentially trying to tell them whom they can hire and whom they cannot hire. I know of different programs actually as we speak here in Washington, D.C. I have a group of six or seven ministers from the northwestern part of Puerto Rico that are visiting with us today, and they have been doing, for a number of years, a wonderful job in terms of working with our younger population. No one from Washington, I repeat, no one from Washington, has a right to tell them whom they can hire and whom they cannot hire. When a faith-based group hires employees on a religious basis, they are exercising their civil liberties. No one from Washington will take that away from them. If denied the right to staff their programs on a religious basis, employees of religious organizations not sharing the religious organization's faith could end up suing to tear down religious art or symbols and perhaps even its religious sounding name.
What is really happening here is there are some people who do not believe that these organizations should be performing the job they are performing.
I ask everyone here to oppose the amendment that has been introduced.
Mr. Chairman, this debate is about one question that each Member and each American should ask himself or herself. This is the question: Should any American citizen have to pass someone else's private…
Mr. Chairman, this debate is about one question that each Member and each American should ask himself or herself. This is the question: Should any American citizen have to pass someone else's private religious test to qualify for a tax-funded job? I think the vast majority of Americans would answer that question, absolutely not.
Should the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Boehner), who is the author of this bill, have to come to me if I get a $5 million job computer training grant from the Federal Government under this bill, should the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Boehner) have to come to me and answer a 20- point religious questionnaire? Should the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Boehner) have to say whether or not he believes in Jesus Christ, whether or not he believes in evolution, whether or not he believes in the literal interpretation of the New Testament?
I do not think the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Boehner) should have to answer those kinds of questions to me as a recipient of a $5 million job training grant. And without the Scott amendment, that is exactly what could happen under this bill.
For those who oppose the Scott amendment, let me say what you are endorsing. You are saying it is okay for a church associated with Bob Jones University, at least based on its past philosophy, it can take a $1 million job training grant and pay for a sign that says, No Jews Or Catholics Need Apply Here For a Federally Funded Job. Do you really think that is right?
What the opponents of the Scott amendment are saying is that the members of a white church who received a $1 million job training grant can say to an African American applicant, You do not belong to our church. Even though you are totally qualified for this federally funded job, we are not going to hire you.
What this bill would say, without the Scott amendment, is that someone could say to a single mom trying to find a job in our religious faith, We do not believe single mothers should work, so we are not going to hire you, even though you are fully qualified for this job.
Religious discrimination is wrong. To subsidize it in the year 2005 I find unbelievable. It is unbelievable that on the very day American soldiers are risking their lives in Iraq, and perhaps some have given their lives today in Iraq to give the Iraqis religious freedom, we are debating a bill on the floor of this House that would say an American citizen can be denied a federally funded, tax-funded job for simply one reason, the exercise of your religious faith.
Religious freedom is not just any freedom; it is the first freedom. It is the first freedom enunciated in the Bill of Rights. It is the freedom upon which all other freedoms we cherish in this country are built.
The Founding Fathers thought so much about that freedom, about religious freedom, they put in the first 16 words of the first amendment these words: ``Congress shall pass no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.''
If saying that someone has to lose a job to support his or her family because they are exercising their own deeply-felt religious faith, if that is not prohibiting the free exercise of religion, what is? If saying we are going to take away your ability to put food on the table for your children and a job that is paid for by taxpayers, to say that you cannot have that job because you do not pass my private religious test, if that is not prohibiting the free exercise of religion, what is?
The ninth commandment warns people to not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Yet repeatedly I have heard on this floor those say on this side of the floor that supporters of the Scott amendment are opposed to faith-based groups being involved in providing social services.
I would suggest perhaps they should not only preach the Ten Commandments; perhaps they should exercise and practice the ninth commandment, because to make that argument is to suggest that the Baptist Joint Committee, the American Jewish Committee, and numerous other religious groups are somehow opposing faith-based groups' involvement in Federal social service programs. You know that argument is simply not correct.
This amendment, the Scott amendment, is about one question and one question alone: Should any American citizen have to pass another American citizen's private religious test to qualify for a federally funded job? I hope the Members of this House will respect the Founding Fathers and the first amendment and the views of the vast majority of American citizens and say, no, you should not be denied a tax-funded job because of the exercise of your religious faith.
I urge Members on both sides of the aisle to put partisanship and politics aside. Vote for religious freedom. Vote for the Scott amendment.
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Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Ms. VELAZQUEZ asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.) Mr. Chairman, for many…
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Ms. VELAZQUEZ asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, for many unemployed workers, starting a small company provides opportunities for career growth and financial success. But the lack of access to capital prevents many entrepreneurs from starting their own business. The Small Business Administration's 7(a) loan program is a critical source of capital for small businesses, providing 30 percent of all long-term loans to U.S. entrepreneurs.
Despite the success of the 7(a) loan program, the Bush administration has repeatedly underfunded it, implemented a series of caps, imposed burdensome restrictions, and shut down the entire program. In the latest attack on October 1, the President doubled the fees that small businesses must pay to receive a 7(a) loan.
These new up-front fees are limiting the number of small businesses that can afford 7(a) loans. For a loan of $150,000, an entrepreneur must now pay nearly $3,000 in up-front fees, a significant cost for someone trying to start a company. These higher costs have significantly reduced small business use of the 7(a) program, as loan volume has decreased by $500 million since the new fees were implemented. The impact has been so great that this January the SBA made fewer loans than when the administration shut down the entire program last January.
President Bush was wrong when he increased the burden entrepreneurs face in accessing capital. This amendment acknowledges the shortsightedness of that decision. It affirms that new fees on 7(a) loans are hurting small businesses and demonstrates congressional support for using Federal funding to cover the cost of these fees.
A vote for this amendment is a vote against the Bush administration's policy raising the fees on 7(a) loans. It is a vote for our Nation's up-and-coming small business owners.
I have serious reservations about Personal Reemployment Accounts, as they will place severe limits on the amount of training an unemployed worker can receive. However, if Congress is going to establish Personal Reemployment Accounts, then we should provide entrepreneurs with the opportunity to use these resources to secure the capital needed to start small businesses. Unemployed workers should be allowed to use these funds in their accounts to pay for the cost of the 7(a) loan fees, and that is exactly what my amendment will do.
Given President Bush's commitment to creating an ownership society, I am surprised there are not more provisions in this bill to help unemployed workers own small businesses. The goal here is help reduce high unemployment, create a strong workforce, and boost our economy. This cannot be achieved without
a stronger commitment to our Nation's entrepreneurs. After all, it was laid-off managers launching their own small businesses that turned our economy around during the last recession.
We need a revival of entrepreneurship in this country that will spur more job creation and grow our economy. To do this, we must take advantage of every opportunity to ensure that capital is accessible and affordable for all start-up small business owners, and we must make it clear that President Bush is failing our Nation's entrepreneurs. This amendment is one of those opportunities, and I urge my colleagues to support it.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself the balance of my time.
On October 1, the Bush administration effectively implemented a tax on U.S. entrepreneurship. By doubling the fees on 7-A loans, the Bush administration has severely limited access to critical source of capital for our Nation's small businesses.
I want to be on record, and I want every Member in this House to be on record about the fact that last July, an amendment to the CJS appropriations that would have protected the 7-A program was approved with strong support. The House was on record then, and we should continue to be on record for the small business community.
This amendment sends a message that Congress is not willing to accept the recent policy decisions of the Bush administration to further burden U.S. entrepreneurs. They are our job creators. They drive our economy and they deserve our support.
Our goal is to fully repeal the freeze on the 7-A loans. While this amendment will not change the fee structure, it will help entrepreneurs afford this vital source of capital. So I therefore urge my colleagues to support this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I object.
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of H.R. 27 and thank the gentleman from Ohio for his leadership in bringing this bill to the floor, the Job Training Improvement Act of 2005, which I introduced…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong support of H.R. 27 and thank the gentleman from Ohio for his leadership in bringing this bill to the floor, the Job Training Improvement Act of 2005, which I introduced to strengthen and reauthorize the Nation's job training system as well as adult education and vocational rehabilitation programs. Job training programs must be responsive to the needs of the workforce and improving them is critical. In today's knowledge-based economy, we need to equip Americans with the skills they need to find a new or better job and quickly return to the workforce.
One of the hallmarks of WIA is that in order to encourage the development of comprehensive systems that improve services to both employers and job seekers, local services are provided through a one- stop delivery system. The one-stop centers serve as the front line in helping job seekers return to the workforce. At the one-stop centers,
assistance ranges from core services such as job search and placement assistance, access to job listings and an initial assessment of skills and needs, to intensive services such as comprehensive assessments and case management and, if needed, occupational skills training.
Over the last 3 years, I have met with local workforce development leaders, businesses, the administration, researchers, and others to examine how we can improve our Federal job training system. While the Workforce Investment Act of 1998 made dramatic reforms to the Nation's workforce system, I learned that further refinements were necessary to ensure State and local officials have the flexibility they need to effectively target resources toward the unique needs of their communities.
The Job Training Improvement Act builds upon WIA to make it more demand-driven and flexible while reducing unnecessary duplication and inefficiency. H.R. 27 will help strengthen and improve the Nation's locally driven, business-led workforce investment system to help States and localities ensure workers get the training they need to find good jobs.
For example, the bill streamlines the current WIA funding in order to provide more efficient and results-oriented services and programs by combining the adult, dislocated, and employment service funding streams into one funding stream. This will eliminate duplication in service delivery and administrative functions that remain in the system, improving services for individuals.
The bill also ensures the financial contribution of the mandatory partners in the one-stop centers while at the same time it increases the service integration among the partner programs. This will improve access to services through the one-stop delivery system for special populations, such as individuals with disabilities.
In order to ensure greater responsiveness to local area needs and strengthen the private sector's role, the bill simplifies the local and State governance processes. One-stop partner programs will no longer be required to have a seat on the local boards. This will provide for greater representation and influence by local business representatives. Currently, they are frequently frustrated that they are not able to connect with or access resources from the local boards.
Mr. Chairman, I had a couple of my good friends, constituents in my district, that lost their jobs in the defense industry. They came up and thanked me for the help they received from WIA. They were able to get vouchers. One of them went on to become a school teacher, one a worker in the computer industry. This bill works. The new bill that we are passing today will make it better, more efficient and help the people to really get the services they need so we can continue to have the job growth that we have been enjoying the last few months here in the country. I support this strongly.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. Osborne), a member of the committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Regula).
(Mr. REGULA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Nevada (Mr. Porter), a member of the committee, vice chairman of the subcommittee.
Mr. Chairman, I am happy to yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Price), a new member of the committee.
(Mr. PRICE of Georgia asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. McCarthy). Mr. Chairman, I yield two minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Holt). Mr. Chairman, how much time do I have…
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. McCarthy).
Mr. Chairman, I yield two minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Holt).
Mr. Chairman, how much time do I have remaining?
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
In summary, I urge a no vote on this bill. In 1998, the gentleman from California (Mr. McKeon) who is a very good friend of mine, we will always remain friends, we have great respect for one another, we wrote a very good bill in 1998, WIA, and I hope we would do likewise this time; but I find myself unable to support this bill.
The bill, among other things, I do not mean to be harsh, but among other things, encapsulates President Bush's response to the woman in Omaha who told him that she was presently working three jobs to ensure that she could provide for her family. And the President responded, ``Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.''
Mr. Chairman, we can do better than that.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I offer an amendment as a designee of the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, current law requires that services be provided to both in-school youth and out-of-school youth. Nothing in the Act prevents States from spending all of youth funds on out-of-school youths. In fact, as many as 17 States spend more than 30 percent on out-of-school programs. The majority of States are challenged by current out-of- school requirements.
Eliminating services for in-school youth cuts funding for programs designed to keep youths in school, to develop workforce skills, to prepare for post-secondary education, and provide after school and summer opportunities.
H.R. 27 limits the business community's ability to work with schools and prepare emerging workforces. In many communities, you have that cooperation between the business community and the schools.
H.R. 27 restricts services for rural youths. Many rural in-school programs provide workforce development and on-school support service for students who are at risk for dropping out. I think it is very, very important that we maintain the in-school youth program, and that is the purpose for me offering this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. Jackson-Lee).
Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Tierney), the author of the amendment.
Mr. Speaker, I offer a motion to recommit.
Yes, I am, Mr. Speaker, in its current form.
Mr. Speaker, my motion to recommit is simple. It provides extra assistance to workers whose jobs have been outsourced and veterans who are returning from conflicts overseas.
Mr. Speaker, half a million jobs have been outsourced over the past 3 years. An additional 830,000 jobs are expected to be outsourced in 2005 and 3.3 million by 2015. Up to 6 million jobs may be sent overseas in the next 10 years. These statistics represent lost jobs for American workers. Fewer jobs means that American workers will struggle to provide for their families and fall further into debt. The administration has turned a deaf ear to the needs of these workers. American workers who lose their jobs due to outsourcing need significant assistance and resources to obtain new employment. This motion would provide this help.
Likewise, many veterans returning from the conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq may need skills and training to obtain or retain their jobs. Reservists who have spent a year or more overseas have put their careers on hold to serve our country. This amendment would provide the help they need.
Mr. Speaker, I urge Members who want to help our veterans and those who have lost their jobs to outsourcing to support this motion.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from South Dakota (Ms. Herseth).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from Connecticut (Ms. DeLauro).
Mr. Speaker, I urge support for this motion which will address a very urgent problem.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I demand a recorded vote.
Mr. Chairman, I very much appreciate the gentleman yielding me this time. Mr. Chairman, there are many problems with this bill. I choose to focus on the Scott amendment because it involves a matter…
Mr. Chairman, I very much appreciate the gentleman yielding me this time.
Mr. Chairman, there are many problems with this bill. I choose to focus on the Scott amendment because it involves a matter in what I think I can safely say is my personal confidence.
I have heard title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act called out here repeatedly. It was my great privilege to enforce
title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act as Chair of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, and I have an obligation to step forward to plead with my friends on the other side to make this a bipartisan bill, because its chances of becoming so at least on this matter should be great.
In fact, it is such a good idea to have faith-based organizations involved in the programs of the Federal Government that we have been doing it for decades with billions of dollars to show for it. There may be some ways, I will be the first to say, there are some ways in which this could be strengthened and expanded. But I do not know whose idea it was to allow religious organizations to discriminate. I do not think it could possibly have been the idea of the faith-based communities themselves. I do not believe that churches and synagogues and mosques are stepping forward to say, Even though we have an extraordinary ability to hire only our own folks, we want to make sure we use public dollars to hire only our co-religious partners.
If the language is kept as it is, we will have the first nullification, the first repeal, of civil rights laws since they were initially passed 40 years ago. To our credit, we have steadily built those laws into legislation that came after it, and, yes, into the Workforce Investment Act. We are required to do that. Title VI requires us to do that, the 14th amendment requires us to do that. It required us to do so when the Workforce Investment Act was passed, and it requires us to do so now.
Essentially what the bill states now is that you can hire only Lutherans or Muslims with your own money, and you can hire only Catholics and Jews with the people's money. That is a huge departure from everything that is built into title VII.
I was Chair of the agency and brought forward religious discrimination guidelines. We worked very hard to strengthen the law against religious discrimination and went the extra mile because of the free exercise clause. Thus, today religious organizations, a church or synagogue, for example, can do what no union or business can do. It cannot only use its money to hire its religious members in religious positions; it can use its own money to hire even their own members in secular positions. This is the maximum in religious freedom that is allowed under the Constitution.
Now, if you want to take on public responsibilities, I cannot understand why anybody would say you would not want to spend that money in accordance with the public responsibility in each and every respect. That is how it has always been done. Why the departure now?
If you want public dollars, do so in accordance with public law. That law requires no discrimination on the basis of race, sex, or religion. It would be a horrible setback to now come forward and say that you can in fact discriminate on the basis of religion, of all things. And that is what you would be doing, because, as everybody knows, race and religious identity track one another very, very closely.
Today, when black people go to Catholic Charities or to Lutheran Services they see people of every race and color working there. And do you know what? I have not heard these organizations and the many other faith-based organizations complain that in order to serve my African American community, they sometimes reach out and find black people who are not Catholic and who are not Lutheran, because they do not ask what they are.
We have resisted pressures in this House for repeal of affirmative action, for repeal of goals. Surely we can resist the role back to the bad old days of religious discrimination and a violation of title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
Mr. Speaker, I congratulate the gentleman from Utah (Mr. Bishop) as a new member of the Committee on Rules for his work today on his first rule that he is bringing to the floor of the House. Today we…
Mr. Speaker, I congratulate the gentleman from Utah (Mr. Bishop) as a new member of the Committee on Rules for his work today on his first rule that he is bringing to the floor of the House.
Today we are considering a rule that would allow for consideration of the reauthorization of the Workforce Investment Act. The Workforce Investment Act, enacted in 1998, brought together some 60 Federal job- training and retraining programs, and put them together and we created these one-stop shops all across America. They are intended to be able to provide training and retraining for American workers who are out of work or workers who simply want to improve their skills so they can move up the economic ladder.
By and large, these one-stop shops have worked very well, but as we reauthorize this law, it is our obligation to take a look at what is working, what could work better, and as we bring this reauthorization forward, there are some important changes that we are bringing to the floor with it.
Mr. Speaker, we want to provide more flexibility for the local workforce boards to do their work by consolidating the funding stream. We want to ensure that more of the funding that is available for this Act goes down to the local county boards, or, in some cases, multiple county jurisdictions. In this bill, we also renew the vocational programs for those who have disabilities, an important part of our workforce.
I think all of us know if we are going to be successful in the 21st century, that America has to do a better job of training and retraining our workforce. The days of going to work for one employer and being there for most of your career are, by and large, over. People are going to change jobs multiple times during their career, and we have to have available to them the kinds of services where they can improve their skills to take that new job of tomorrow.
The reauthorization program that we have today, I think is a good one. There is one amendment that we will debate that we have had considerable debate on over the last several years in this Congress and considered in the committee twice during the markup of this bill. It is on the faith-based language. Members are going to hear an awful lot about it today, but let me give the parameters.
The 1964 Civil Rights Act, the landmark legislation which prevented discrimination in America, allowed for one exception in hiring and that exception was granted to religious organizations where we grant them an exemption if they wished to only hire people
of their own faith. That is the law. It has been the law since 1964.
We believe that faith-based providers who may want to offer services, job training services or retraining services, ought not to be denied their rights under the 1964 Civil Rights Act just because they want to help the neediest of the needy and help the poor improve their skills and get a job.
This is a great debate which has gone on for several years. We allow faith-based providers in this bill to provide services without giving up their protections in the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Some believe, and it is certainly their right to have a different opinion, believe that faith-based organizations, even though they have this right, ought to be forced to give it up in order to take Federal funds to help the poorest of the poor.
Now I would argue those who really do believe that is the case ought to go back and amend the 1964 Civil Rights Act, title 7, and not try to do it in this bill. But this provision, and again, we will have ample time to debate it later, I think this provision helps organizations who want to go out and help the needy in their community. It gives them the tools to do it without having to set up a new organization, or denies them the ability and the rights that they have under the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
I think that we have a fair rule before us. I think it will provide for a very meaningful debate today on this reauthorization. I would urge my colleagues to support it.
Mr. Chairman, the history is ambiguous. Courts have been on both sides. The principle is what is involved. We are told that if we adopt this amendment, we are denying the liberty to religious…
Mr. Chairman, the history is ambiguous. Courts have been on both sides. The principle is what is involved. We are told that if we adopt this amendment, we are denying the liberty to religious organizations. The liberty that is being asked, frankly I am disappointed to hear this asserted, and I think the greatest denigration of religious organizations coming forward here are those who are saying this: there are religious groups in this country who are eager to help people in need, but if they get Federal tax dollars to help people in need and they are forced to associate with heathens and unbelievers and infidels, then they will be driven away.
What is so terrible about saying to the Orthodox Jews in Brooklyn who were cited, you want to help the people in Brooklyn, the people you want to help will be black and Hispanic, they will be white and poor and Jewish and Christian, if you really want to help them, on your own, whatever you want to do, you can do. But if you want all of those people in Brooklyn who paid Federal taxes, if you want a share of their Federal taxes to run a program to help them, God forbid, I guess you mean this literally, God forbid you should have to hire one of them.
Martin Luther King said, and it is sadly still true, that one of the most segregated times in America is the hour of worship. So understand that when you empower the religious groups to discriminate based on religion, you will also de facto empower some segregation. Those Orthodox Jewish groups in Brooklyn will hire very few
black people in Brooklyn. And if in fact you have a policy that says all the money is going to go in these areas to the religious groups, then what about people who are not religious? The Constitution says you should not discriminate against them. You may not think much of them, but you should not be discriminating against them, but they cannot ever get a job.
And you talk about message. I love this message. What we are going to be saying if you win here in the House of Representatives is, attention all Shiites, do not hire Sunnis. That is your principle. Apparently, we are going to be encouraging the people in Iraq with Iraqi Government money or American Government money, a lot of it is going to Iraq, do you really think you want to send that message to the Shiites that when they try to rebuild their country they should not hire Sunnis?
And what are you saying? That there is something somehow so corrosive about associating with someone of a different religion that it disables you from doing good? What kind of motivation do you impute to these people? You want to do good, but you should not have to associate with one of those people. By the way, even you acknowledge that the people being served have to be of all religions. So this religious purity that apparently is so essential has already been dissolved.
But here is the point: we are being asked to say to Americans, yes, you will pay taxes for this; but the taxes you pay, you are not eligible for a job because you believe in the wrong God. Or you believe in God in the wrong way. You believe in the wrong denomination. Or you do not believe. Again, what are you saying? Is it really the case that religious organizations, that they are somehow so angry towards outsiders, that they feel so unclean that they cannot help people in need if they have to associate with people who are otherwise perfectly qualified, who believe in the mission of this entity, but they do not share the same religion?
I hope we will not so characterize religious people as being so narrow and so biased towards people not of their own religion that they cannot even work with them in this common cause to which you say they are committed.
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 27, the Job Training Improvement Act of 2005, and I certainly applaud the gentleman from California (Chairman McKeon) and the gentleman from Ohio…
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in strong support of H.R. 27, the Job Training Improvement Act of 2005, and I certainly applaud the gentleman from California (Chairman McKeon) and the gentleman from Ohio (Chairman Boehner) for their tireless efforts in bringing this important legislation to the floor today.
As an original cosponsor of this legislation, there are many provisions that will increase the ability of our Nation's workers to achieve greater stability in our ever-changing workforce. I would like to mention one aspect of the bill which I am particularly proud of, the inclusion of Personal Reemployment Accounts as an allowable usage of funds under the pilot and demonstration projects of the Greater Workforce Investment Act.
PRAs will provide American workers who are seeking employment added flexibility to seek the customized training and support services that they need and deserve to expand their career opportunities. As my community of southern Nevada experienced in the wake of September 11, our economy proved to be very vulnerable. As my community rebounded from this blow, Nevadans sought help in adjusting to the realities of the workforce. Those Nevadans who suffered the woes of unemployment sought additional training and support as they sought to increase their career opportunities.
Mr. Chairman, I know that PRAs would have provided my constituents with a valuable option in seeking these services. In fact, many constituents have told me they are excited to have this opportunity in case there is another emergency at some point in time. In fact, one young girl, Lucy, wanted to make sure that there was ample education dollars available; and I assured her there would be.
Besides providing for an individualized approach to reemployment, the PRAs provide an added bonus. Individuals are able to retain the remainder of their account after they return to the workforce. These funds can be used for continued training and support.
As Americans return to work, they continue to face hardships until the benefits of employment become manifest. PRAs can help ease this transition.
Mr. Chairman, I will include for the Record a letter from Deputy Secretary of Labor Steven Law demonstrating the administration's continued support of the PRA program.
Mr. Chairman, I urge all of my colleagues to support this important legislation. As our workforce continues to engage the ever-changing economy which we are part of, this reauthorization will provide American workers with the tools they need and deserve to improve their career opportunities. I recommend final passage of the Job Training Improvement Act of 2005.
Mr. Chairman, I include for the Record the letter referred to earlier from Steven J. Law, Deputy Secretary of Labor.
Department of Labor,
Deputy Secretary of Labor,
Washington, DC, March 2, 2005.
Hon. Jon Porter,
House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Congressman Porter: I would like to thank you for your
invaluable and effective advocacy of Personal Reemployment
Accounts (PRAs). Like you we believe that PRAs will provide
thousands of Americans seeking reemployment with a new and
more flexible means to seek customized training that leads
quickly to expanded career opportunities.
We are enthusiastic about the launch of PRA demonstration
projects in seven states. We are confident that this
important pilot program will prove the value of PRAs and,
with enactment of your legislation, even more Americans will
have access to PRAs.
We look forward to working with you, Chairman Boehner, and
Chairman McKeon on this innovative plan to help workers in
transition. Thank you again for your leadership on this
initiative.
Sincerely,
Steven J. Law.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the offered amendment. It seems to me in our country right now we have an all-out assault on faith-based groups. Just this week, a court in my home State of…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the offered amendment. It seems to me in our country right now we have an all-out assault on faith-based groups. Just this week, a court in my home State of Louisiana ruled that school boards were prohibited from having voluntary school board member-led prayers to begin their meetings. Now, this very Chamber, the Supreme Court, and many government entities begin their proceedings with a prayer; and along that line I see nothing wrong with us inviting faith-based groups to be partners with the government in training tomorrow's workforce.
To me, this debate should be about one and only one thing, and that is how do we provide the most effective training for our future workers? Nobody here is arguing that we should have an unlevel playing field. Nobody here is arguing for favoritism for faith-based groups. Rather, we are simply saying, let us level the playing field. Let us invite those who are motivated by faith to help us to train displaced workers, to train tomorrow's workforce.
In my home State of Louisiana, faith-based groups have done a wonderful thing. They have provided health care to those who needed it; they have provided education, housing and shelter to those whose needed it the most.
What is next? If you extend the logic of this amendment, what might be next might be those Catholic hospitals not being able to accept Medicare patients. What might be next might be the Baptist hospitals not being allowed to participate in our State's Medicaid program.
We are not asking for special treatment. All we are saying is let us build on a bipartisan precedent, a precedent set in the Civil Rights Act, a precedent reaffirmed under President Clinton under four different bills. Let us build on that bipartisan precedent of opening the doors and allowing faith-based groups to participate as equal partners.
People of faith pay taxes as well in this country. We are not arguing for special treatment; we are just arguing for a level playing field.
Four different times this Congress saw fit to open those doors to faith-based groups. Four different times President Clinton signed into law four different measures designed to protect the interests and rights of faith-based groups.
Today this bill that we are going to approve later on the floor today simply takes another step forward. It simply says to the faith-based community, we will not discriminate against you. We will not require you to give up your employment rights guaranteed or granted to you by the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
To quote Members from the other side, Senator Kerry and Senator Clinton, those that have stood before for freedom and plurality, they themselves say, Senator Clinton in her own words says, ``There is no contradiction between support for faith-based initiatives and upholding our constitutional principles.'' Senator Kerry says, ``I know there are some that say that the first amendment means faith-based organizations can't help government. I've never accepted that. I think they are wrong.''
In this instance, I find myself in agreement with both Senator Kerry and Senator Clinton. The first amendment is not designed to protect government, not designed to protect us from faith; it is rather designed to separate church and State. It is, rather, designed to protect faith from government, not the other way around.
So I think we need to stop closing the door to people of faith. We need to stop discriminating against those groups that are motivated by their religious beliefs to help the weakest in society. I rise in opposition to this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in opposition to H.R. 27, the so-called Job Training Improvement Act of 2005. Today's bill has nothing to do with improving job training for our workforce--far from it.…
Mr. Chairman, I rise today in opposition to H.R. 27, the so-called Job Training Improvement Act of 2005.
Today's bill has nothing to do with improving job training for our workforce--far from it. Instead, this bill actually weakens worker protections, opens the door to hiring discrimination, and dismantles the employment service program that helps unemployed workers find jobs.
Apparently the Republicans haven't monitored the weak job market numbers. How else can you explain being so cruel and unfair as to pull the rug out on our nation's unemployed?
Let me remind my Republican colleagues that there are still fewer jobs available in America than when President Bush came to office. Inflation is still growing faster than the average earnings of workers--a fact that is particularly true for low-skilled and low- income workers.
Confronted with such evidence, this Congress should be doing everything we can to bolster workforce investment. Yet, this Republican bill cuts employment and re-employment services at the time they are needed most. It underfunds the Employment Service, Adult, and Dislocated Worker programs by consolidating them into a single block grant. This puts a greater financial burden directly on the states, exacerbating their budget deficits and perversely triggering layoffs among the very state employees who administer these programs. Yet, much worse, it forces unemployed workers and welfare recipients to fight it out for a share of these limited funds.
To add insult to injury, the Republicans give states the right to waive basic worker protections that allow employees to seek redress when they've been treated unfairly. They even allow religious organizations to engage in hiring discrimination in an unholy attempt to turn back a half-century of progress in preventing workplace discrimination.
Current law prohibits employers participating in federal job training programs from discriminating based on race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age disability, or political affiliation or belief. The Republican bill would allow the taxpayer dollars that pay for these job-training programs to go to religious organizations that blatantly discriminate in hiring based on religious beliefs. What next? Will the next Bush initiative include allowing discrimination based on race, sexual orientation or political affiliation?
The vital civil rights provision barring federally-funded religious discrimination has never been controversial and has never been a partisan issue. In fact, the provision was first included in the federal job training legislation that former Senator Dan Quayle sponsored. It passed through a committee chaired by Senator Orrin Hatch and was signed by President Ronald Reagan.
Throughout its 23-year history, this civil rights provision has not been an obstacle to the participation of religiously affiliated organizations in federal job training programs. Currently, many religious organizations participate in the federal programs and comply with the same civil rights protections that apply to other employers.
But suddenly, under the leadership of the White House, we are being asked to forget the principle of equal opportunity on which our country was founded.
Now is not the time to be rolling back civil rights protections and it certainly isn't the time to be short-changing the unemployed.
Congress ought to be creating solutions to make it easier for folks to find jobs, not more difficult. This Republican bill is clearly not a solution.
I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on H.R. 27.
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the opportunity to speak again on this, and I am astounded, frankly, at the level of misinformation that is coming from the other side. I think it is important to look at…
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the opportunity to speak again on this, and I am astounded, frankly, at the level of misinformation that is coming from the other side.
I think it is important to look at the bill specifically as it defines youth. The definition of youth has changed.
The age for when an individual is considered a youth has changed. Currently it is 14 to 21 years. In the bill, it would change it from 16 to 24 years. What that means is that we have more individuals out of school, out of school, who require assistance. And that is one of the reasons the provision is in the bill to change it, so that more individuals out of school will have greater opportunity to access those monies.
It is also important to appreciate this is a Department of Labor program. The Department of Education has a phenomenal number of programs eligible for in-school youth that really dwarfs the amount of money for the out-of-school individuals, 15 to 1 by my count. Some of those programs are title I grants to improve education for the disadvantaged, neglected and delinquent grants to local educational agencies, 21st Century Learning Centers, Safe and Drug-free Schools and community State grants, Bilingual Education Instructional Services, Dropout Prevention Grants, and on and on and on, Striving Readers Grant and Vocational Technical Education.
In summary, no one, no one is decreasing the amount of money to in- school youth for the concerns and the issues that they have. What we are doing is making it so that this bill addresses those individuals that are most in need.
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the opportunity once again to speak on this, and I urge my colleagues to oppose this amendment. The misunderstandings and confusion and frankly the hyperbole is phenomenal coming out of the other side. No one, no one, is encouraging faith-based institutions to discriminate with the language in this bill.
Sometimes I think it is helpful to go back to the original language. We have had a lot of reference to title VII of the Civil Rights Acts of 1964. What it says specifically is ``This subchapter shall not apply to an employer with respect to the employment of,'' et cetera. It does not say anything about the source of the money. Nothing. There is no mention of the source.
There has been some discussion about previous language that many Members on the other side of the aisle have adopted in previous bills, four pieces of legislation under the Clinton administration. President Clinton himself said that no discrimination with employment in the bills that were adopted, and we have heard about them, the welfare reform, the community renewal tax relief, Community
Services Block Grant, substance abuse. The gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Scott) himself said that there has been no discrimination since 1965.
Well, the exact identical language in this bill was in those. If there is this incredible occurrence that is happening out there with this remarkable discrimination, where are the examples under those bills? Where are the examples of discrimination under those bills that have exactly the same language as this bill that we are promoting here?
I urge my colleagues to oppose this and to be certain, to be certain, there is no intent or desire on anybody on this side of the aisle to encourage discrimination by faith-based institutions.
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Massachusetts for yielding me this time, and I rise to oppose this rule to H.R. 27, the Workforce Investment Act. The gentleman from Ohio, the chairman of the…
Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Massachusetts for yielding me this time, and I rise to oppose this rule to H.R. 27, the Workforce Investment Act. The gentleman from Ohio, the chairman of the committee on which I serve, is correct. The Workforce Investment Act has been successful. The renewal that is proposed to us today, however, is a step backwards; and we will hear a great deal about that.
There were amendments that were proposed that have not been made in order. These amendments would have created a separate authorization for infrastructure funding for one-stop centers, would have struck the provisions regarding personal reemployment accounts. There was an amendment that would have struck the provisions to consolidate the funding of adult, dislocated worker and employment service; and an amendment that I would like to address at this moment that I offered that would have increased the authorization by $750 million for job training programs under the Workforce Investment Act.
Between fiscal year 2002 and fiscal year 2006, Mr. Speaker, funding for the Workforce Investment Act has been reduced by three-quarters of a billion dollars. This is for a program that works. But the funding has been reduced. My amendment would have restored this funding. However, the Committee on Rules did not see fit to accept the amendment. At a time when there are 7.7 million people unemployed, not counting those who have fallen off the rolls, 4.5 million working part- time because they cannot find a full-time job that they need, we should be doing more. Through the one-stop delivery system, job seekers have access to labor market information, job counseling, and job training to help them get back on their feet.
Back in 1998 when this bill, this program, was first passed, David Broder wrote an article. He said: When Senator Paul Wellstone walked off the floor arm in arm with Senator Mike DeWine of Ohio, bipartisan I should point out, Paul Wellstone said, ``Mike, this may not be the lead story on the network news, but it's a good piece of work.'' Well, indeed it was not the lead story on the network news.
David Broder reports, It was hard to find a trace of their bill. The news at that time was overwhelmed, overtaken by scandals. But as says Broder, In communities less consumed by scandal than Washington, the impact of the measure that DeWine and Wellstone and others had fashioned may be felt in real lives long after the memories of the scandals have faded. In a dynamic economy where technological changes and market shifts are forcing layoffs of some people even as other jobs are being created, the key is to equip workers with needed skills and then link them efficiently to the vacancies.
That is what this legislation is intended to do. It should be authorized at a greater amount. Said Broder back then, The workers will never know the names of the legislators, but they are in their debt.
Unfortunately, the workers who do not get to take advantage of this program because it is underfunded will never know what they have missed, and we have let them down. We should oppose this rule, Mr. Speaker.
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[Congressional Bills 109th Congress]
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[H. Res. 126 Engrossed in House (EH)]
In the House of Representatives, U.S.,
March 2, 2005.
Resolved, That at any time after the adoption of this resolution the Speaker
may, pursuant to clause 2(b) of rule XVIII, declare the House resolved into the
Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union for consideration of the
bill (H.R. 27) to enhance the workforce investment system of the Nation by
strengthening one-stop career centers, providing for more effective governance
arrangements, promoting access to a more comprehensive array of employment,
training, and related services, establishing a targeted approach to serving
youth, and improving performance accountability, and for other purposes. The
first reading of the bill shall be dispensed with. General debate shall be
confined to the bill and shall not exceed one hour equally divided and
controlled by the chairman and ranking minority member of the Committee on
Education and the Workforce. After general debate the bill shall be considered
for amendment under the five-minute rule. It shall be in order to consider as an
original bill for the purpose of amendment under the five-minute rule the
amendment in the nature of a substitute recommended by the Committee on
Education and the Workforce now printed in the bill. The committee amendment in
the nature of a substitute shall be considered as read. No amendment to the
committee amendment in the nature of a substitute shall be in order except those
printed in the report of the Committee on Rules accompanying this resolution.
Each such amendment may be offered only in the order printed in the report, may
be offered only by a Member designated in the report, shall be considered as
read, shall be debatable for the time specified in the report equally divided
and controlled by the proponent and an opponent, shall not be subject to
amendment, and shall not be subject to a demand for division of the question in
the House or in the Committee of the Whole. All points of order against such
amendments are waived. At the conclusion of consideration of the bill for
amendment the Committee shall rise and report the bill to the House with such
amendments as may have been adopted. Any Member may demand a separate vote in
the House on any amendment adopted in the Committee of the Whole to the bill or
to the committee amendment in the nature of a substitute. The previous question
shall be considered as ordered on the bill and amendments thereto to final
passage without intervening motion except one motion to recommit with or without
instructions.
Attest:
Clerk.