There is 7\1/2\ minutes remaining in opposition? There is story after story for everything in this country. The problem is, if we start funding all the stories, we will run out of money and tax our…
There is 7\1/2\ minutes remaining in opposition?
There is story after story for everything in this country. The problem is, if we start funding all the stories, we will run out of money and tax our kids so they cannot afford it and tax ourselves so we cannot afford it.
The issue is setting priorities. The President has suggested a priority in the area of CDBGs. I suspect this Congress is not going to accept that priority, but it should function within the caps that have been set in order to decide whether it chooses that priority.
This is a reasonable approach, to set a cap and then say to the Appropriations Committee, you decide whether CDBGs make more sense than some other program that would compete for the same amount of money.
I will not vote for either of these amendments, but if I had to vote for one or the other, I would be more inclined to vote for the one from the Senator from Minnesota because he does not impact caps and takes it out of something called 800 which is the general operation of the Government which means basically a cut to IRS and other operating accounts within the Government.
I don't think that should be the way we should approach this. We should, rather, allow the Appropriations Committee to make decisions on this and we should not be arbitrarily in the Senate reallocating money from IRS over to the CDBG Program on the basis of anything, including stories.
I understood the Senator from Maryland wanted a couple of minutes.
I yield the Senator 2 minutes.
Madam President, I thank the Senator from Maryland.
I yield back the remainder of my time.
Madam President, I rise in opposition.
How much time would the Senator need?
Madam President, I yield the Senator 2 minutes.
Madam President, a lot of folks around here talk about budget reform, and this is budget reform in that it returns us to the days when the President was treated essentially this way, back under President Clinton, under President Bush the first. I think it is important to know what the issue is.
The issue is not defense spending, because the proposed budget point of order and the Presidential involvement does not apply to defense spending. So with regard to the supplemental that is coming at us, the majority of which is defense spending, it does not affect that. It is nondefense areas where basically emergency designations are used to avoid the cap.
The cap is the enforcement mechanism on the discretionary side. There are going to be instances where we are going to have to go through the cap because there are legitimate emergencies--hurricanes, the tsunami. But the simple fact is, there are also instances where we have used the emergency designation, such as for oyster farming, where maybe they were not quite emergencies, and yet they allowed the cap to be avoided for that spending item.
This tries to put some balance back into the process of when we are going to have domestic emergencies and when we are not, and making sure the President is part of that process, which has traditionally been the way we did it around here. So I think it is reasonable change.
I understand the chairman and the ranking member of the Appropriations Committee are concerned because it may well impact them, although I suspect with this President they will be able to work out an understanding that they will agree on. But I do think it is an enforcement mechanism that is appropriate at this time.
Madam President, do I have any time left?
I yield that back.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that following this debate which has just been completed, the following times be allocated specifically for Members to offer their amendments; provided further, that if the Senator is not here during the allocated time, the clock run against the time reserved for the amendment.
I send a list of those allocations to the desk.
Madam President, the Senator from Massachusetts is correct. Money does not solve the problem of education. If it did, the city of Washington would have the finest schools and the best academic experience in the country instead of the worst. The students regrettably score at the bottom of the Nation year in and year out. Yet on a per capita basis, more money is spent per child here in Washington than any place else in America: $12,000 a year per child. I congratulate the present Mayor for trying to address the issue through creating choice within the school system. But that is a fact. Money does not necessarily solve education problems.
However, in the area of money, this Presidency has done a dramatically better job than the prior President in his commitment to increasing education dollars. Since coming into office, President Bush's increase in education exceeds that of President Clinton by 33 percent. His increase in funding for title I exceeds that of President Clinton by 52 percent. His increase in IDEA funding exceeds that of President Clinton by 75 percent. His increase in funding of No Child Left Behind exceeds President Clinton's areas in approximately the same programs by 46 percent. In this budget proposal, the President has proposed adding another $500 million in IDEA, $600 million in title I, $1 billion in No Child Left Behind, and half a billion dollars into Pell grants.
In addition, this budget itself sets up the process for significant increases in funding in the Pell grant area so that we can get to a $4,150 grant next year. And if we follow the proposal of this budget, we will get to a $5,100 grant for people who use Pell grants and go to college for 4 years and complete their schooling.
In addition, we put in $5.5 billion, approximately, in order to reauthorize the Higher Education Act. And yes, it is paid for in large part, but it is paid for by basically ratcheting down on lenders. I suspect the Senator from Massachusetts will be comfortable with many of the pay-fors which Senator Enzi comes up with in committee. So the education commitment of this administration has been extraordinarily strong, and this budget puts forth some very creative and unique ideas for going forward on that aggressive approach.
This amendment is not the way to proceed. The Senator from Massachusetts has never been a wilting violet on the concept of increasing taxes. This amendment reinforces that fine track record as it increases taxes by $10.9 billion. In fact, the entire other side of the aisle has not been much in the way of wilting violets on the issue of increasing taxes.
So far we have had approximately seven amendments that we have accounted for. I think there are a lot more floating around here that we have not yet accounted for that had they been passed or if they are passed--four of them were, fortunately, defeated--would have added $47 billion. That doesn't count this $10 billion. So we are up to almost $60 billion of new taxes that has been proposed so far. I suspect that number is understated because I think we are missing five or six amendments that had been suggested in the last few hours late last evening.
So there is no question but there is a philosophy on the other side which this side is trying not to subscribe to, which is that you just raise taxes and you spend more money and that solves the problem. That doesn't solve the problem. The problem is that we have to set priorities, and within those priorities, some programs of the Federal Government should be funded more aggressively than others.
What the President has suggested specifically is that the core educational initiatives of the Federal Government--No Child Left Behind, title I, special education, Pell grant, higher education--will be funded extremely aggressively. The Congress may not decide to choose to follow that course of action, but at least we should go forward with the concept that we are going to set the priorities within a budget that we can afford and not break that budget and raise taxes on the American people.
Therefore, I oppose this amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. President, I yield to the Senator from Montana for the purpose of a colloquy.
Mr. President, I appreciate the question of the Senator from Montana. Yes, the Senator's understanding is correct. We took great care to assure that this budget resolution was constructed to provide the Agriculture Committee with the flexibility needed to achieve a reduction in the deficit while ensuring continued support for programs that provide a critical safety net for farmers and ranchers, promote conservation, and reduce hunger.
Yes, the Senator is correct. I believe the House budget resolution proposes reducing mandatory spending for agriculture by $5.3 billion over the next 5 years. I add that the President's budget proposed to reduce mandatory program spending for agriculture by nearly $9 billion.
Mr. President, I will state that the Senator from Montana has been extremely persuasive. We started out with a budget number in this budget that essentially tracked the President's number in agriculture. But as a result of listening to the Senator from Montana and the Senator from Georgia, chairman of the Agriculture Committee, we have backed that number down rather dramatically from the original request of $9 billion by the President's $2.8 billion. And we have, as the Senator from Montana noted, at the request of the Senator from Georgia, given maximum flexibility to the Agriculture Committee so that they can reach that number. Remember, that is a 5-year number, not a 1- year number; the $2.8 billion is spent over 5 years. They can reach that number however it is deemed best in looking at it through the lens of the Agriculture Committee, where the real expertise resides.
I thank the Senator from Montana for his very constructive effort in this area. I assure the people of Montana he has certainly held their interests and put their interests first and aggressively pursued it.
I yield the balance of our time to the Senator from Georgia.
To quote President Reagan: The only thing in this city that has eternal life is a Federal program.
COPS is the No. 1 poster child for that statement. Why is the COPS Program being wound down? Because when it was started, it was supposed to end after 3 years.
That was the agreement. When President Clinton offered this proposal, which I supported, which I funded--I happened to chair the subcommittee that funded this proposal--the understanding was it would be a 3-year program. The cities and towns would come in, they would get their police officers approved, and then after 3 years those police officers would be off the Federal payroll, on the local payroll, and when we got to 100,000 police officers, the program would end. In the year 2000, we got to 100,000 police officers; in the year 2001, we got to 110,000 police officers--and the program goes on and on.
There was an agreement 2 years ago that we would only fund those officers who were sort of the end of the line--in rural communities, essentially--and then we would terminate the program the way it was supposed to be originally terminated. That has not happened, either.
Finally, the President, living up to the commitment of President Clinton, has said: Enough is enough. The program did what it was supposed to do, it put over 100,000 police officers on the street. As a result of doing that, it has succeeded. Let's declare victory relative to this program because it accomplished what it was supposed to accomplish--it added 110,000 or 120,000 officers, I guess, in the end-- and let's take these funds which were being used here and move them to another account, specifically accounts which are going to be more focused on a targeted response--primarily to the threat of terrorism-- versus a general response.
The police officers, obviously, have a terrorism role, but they have a lot broader portfolio when they walk on that street, from moving- vehicle crimes to, obviously, violent crimes to drug crimes. But the dollars that were being spent on the COPS Program have been moved over, essentially to homeland defense and other accounts, the purpose of which is to get the Federal role together in an area where we have a priority, which is fighting terrorism.
The officers who were put on the street by this program are theoretically still on the street because the communities that use this program to basically gear these officers up--I think we paid 75 percent the first year, 55 percent the second year, 25 percent the third year, and then it goes on the community's payroll, that officer's salary-- those officers are still out there, one presumes.
It is just extremely ironic that there would be such an outcry to keep a program that the prior administration fully expected and put forward as a program that was going to be focused on getting 100,000 police officers on the street, and when it accomplished that it would terminate. It accomplished that and more, and it should be terminated.
So I hope maybe we could prove President Reagan wrong once. He has been right on just about everything he ever did as a President, but maybe we could just prove him wrong once--I'm sure it would make the other side happy--by showing all programs are not eternal in this city and we can terminate one--the COPS Program.
I yield the remainder of my time on this amendment, then, and we will move on to the next amendment, which I guess is Senator Feinstein's.
Amendment No. 188