National Guard and Reservists Debt Relief Act of 2008
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Became Public Law No: 110-438.
October 20, 2008
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Introduced in Senate
June 25, 2008
Sponsor introductory remarks on measure. (CR S6166)
June 25, 2008
Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary. (text of measure as introduced: CR S6166-6167)
June 25, 2008
Committee on the Judiciary. Ordered to be reported with an amendment favorably.
September 11, 2008
Committee on the Judiciary. Reported by Senator Leahy with an amendment. Without written report.
September 15, 2008
Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 963.
September 15, 2008
Passed Senate with an amendment by Unanimous Consent. (consideration: CR S10186-10187; text as passed in Senate: CR S10186-10187)
September 30, 2008
Message on Senate action sent to the House.
October 1, 2008
Received in the House.
October 2, 2008 • 12:10 PM
Held at the desk.
October 2, 2008 • 12:11 PM
Mr. Conyers moved to suspend the rules and pass the bill.
October 2, 2008 • 12:28 PM
Considered under suspension of the rules. (consideration: CR H10648-10653; text of measure as introduced: CR H10648-10649)
October 2, 2008 • 12:29 PM
DEBATE - The House proceeded with forty minutes of debate on S. 3197.
October 2, 2008 • 12:29 PM
At the conclusion of debate, the Yeas and Nays were demanded and ordered. Pursuant to the provisions of clause 8, rule XX, the Chair announced that further proceedings on the motion would be postponed.
October 2, 2008 • 1:13 PM
Considered as unfinished business. (consideration: CR H10806-10807)
October 3, 2008 • 1:28 PM
Passed/agreed to in House: On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 411 - 0 (Roll no. 682).(text: CR 10/2/2008 H10648-10649)
October 3, 2008 • 1:34 PM
On motion to suspend the rules and pass the bill Agreed to by the Yeas and Nays: (2/3 required): 411 - 0 (Roll no. 682). (text: CR 10/2/2008 H10648-10649)
October 3, 2008 • 1:34 PM
Motion to reconsider laid on the table Agreed to without objection.
October 3, 2008 • 1:34 PM
Cleared for White House.
October 3, 2008
Presented to President.
October 9, 2008
Signed by President.
October 20, 2008
Became Public Law No: 110-438.
October 20, 2008
Voting History
1 vote recorded • Roll call available
Floor Debate
22 membersWhat members said about S. 3197 on the floor
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Floor Debate
22 membersWhat members said about S. 3197 on the floor
Madam Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 1525, I call up from the Speaker's table the bill (H.R. 1424) to amend section 712 of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, section 2705 of…
Madam Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 1525, I call up from the Speaker's table the bill (H.R. 1424) to amend section 712 of the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, section 2705 of the Public Health Service Act, and section 9812 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require equity in the provision of mental health and substance-related disorder benefits under group health plans, and offer the motion at the desk.
Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members have 5 legislative days within which to revise and extend their remarks on this legislation and add extraneous material thereon.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Madam Speaker, we have limited time here, and I want to explain to the Members that I will be devoting most of my time to colloquy with Members who have serious concerns about this bill.
I believe this bill has a great deal more in it in a number of areas, including in particular avoiding foreclosures, than people have recognized. I at this point will insert into the Record under General Leave a letter from the American Banker, in which Sheila Bair, who is one of the best regulators we have ever had, who has been using her authority over the mortgages she inherited through the IndyMac failure to really provide foreclosure relief, and she says in this: ``The provision would allow the Treasury Department to provide credit guarantees and enhancements on whole loans.'' Ms. Bair said in an interview Thursday, ``They can have so much bigger bang for their buck.'' She asked us to put this in. We put it in. It may be obscure, but it in and of itself will lead to a great deal of help for people with mortgages.
What I will be doing, Madam Speaker, during this debate is yielding time for colloquies to Members who are seeking clarification of points in the bill, many of them involving what is very powerful language, although not everything we would have liked, to mitigate foreclosures. I will say that I have spoken to the people at the Department of Treasury, including yesterday morning the Secretary himself, and I will be making commitments today about how we believe this bill will be interpreted, and I will be making no commitments that I have not explained to the Treasury, that the staff of the Financial Services Committee which has done such wonderful work has not discussed with the Treasury. So we will be, as I said, working with Members to clarify some parts of this bill because I do not think it is fully appreciated that it has a good deal more in it for the foreclosure issue and some other issues than has been recognized.
[From American Banker, Oct. 3, 2008]
Bair: How to Get More Bang for Bailout Buck
(By Rob Blackwell)
Washington.--Of all the provisions in the bill designed to
stabilize the financial markets, one of its most potent is
not getting enough attention, according to Federal Deposit
Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair.
The provision would allow the Treasury Department to
provide credit guarantees and enhancements on whole loans. If
it were used, it would allow the government to increase
modifications and stabilize home prices at a much smaller
cost than buying the loans themselves, Ms. Bair said in an
interview Thursday.
``They can have so much bigger bang for their buck,'' she
said. ``You don't have an initial cash outlay, you can leave
them in the private sector, you can do the servicing in the
private sector, and you can condition them on some type of
modification protocol, which would get the mortgages
restructured faster.''
The provision, a single sentence in the 451-page bill, has
attracted little attention from analysts and industry
representatives. Instead, they have focused on the crux of
the bill, which would allow the Treasury to buy and hold up
to $700 billion of troubled assets.
The bill would give the Treasury secretary the power to
``use loan guarantees and credit enhancements to facilitate
loan modifications to prevent avoidable foreclosures.''
How that would work remains unclear. In theory, the
Treasury could guarantee certain types of loans--option
adjustable-rate mortgages, for example--and require lenders
that want to use the insurance to engage in loan
modifications first. If the reworked loan performed, the
government would never be involved, but if the loan later
defaulted, the government would take a certain amount of the
loss.
Though she is supportive of the $700 billion buyout
facility, Ms. Bair said the provision, added at the behest of
the FDIC, could provide a critical alternative.
``It will be another tool they have in their toolkit, and
it will be cheaper,'' she said. ``You can provide credit
support to $100 billion worth of mortgages with no up-front
cash outlay. The exposure would be less than buying those
mortgages directly.''
During her two-year tenure, the FDIC has moved from the
background to the forefront of the housing crisis. In the
past week alone it has handled the largest failure of all
time--the $309 billion-asset Washington Mutual Inc.--with no
cost to the government. It also invoked the systemic risk
exception for the first time in the agency's history to
facilitate a deal to sell most of Wachovia Corp. to Citigroup
Inc.
Ms. Bair said regulators had no choice but to use the
exception, which was created in 1991 and required the
approval of the Federal Reserve Board and the Treasury.
``We all felt that preventive action was needed,'' she
said. ``It was a potential failure, driven primarily by
market confidence issues.''
Ms. Bair has also been working to help pass the bailout
bill. After the House unexpectedly defeated the legislation
Monday, lawmakers scrambled for provisions to bring more
Republicans on board. The most notable addition would
increase deposit insurance to $250,000 per depositor per
institution.
That provision would reassure nervous depositors that the
banking system is stable, Ms. Bair said, and it gets to the
heart of the problem: a lack of confidence among consumers,
bankers, and businesses.
``Raising the deposit insurance limit to $250,000 is
designed to address that problem
of public confidence,'' she said. ``Expanding that safety net
for a period of time, I think, will help with the Main Street
depositor and also provide help for banks.''
The coverage hike would take effect immediately and would
expire Dec. 31, 2009. The bill explicitly says banks should
not face a premium hike as a result. Analysts argue that
Congress would have to make the higher limit permanent. Ms.
Bair would not take a position, except to say the FDIC should
have the power to raise premiums if the increase becomes
permanent.
``It's a question for Congress,'' she said. ``It could be
destabilizing if they lift it in 2009, but the trade-off
would be that banks would have to start paying premiums.''
Overall, she said, she hopes the legislation will help ease
fears among financial institutions, some of which have become
worried about lending to each other.
``There is a confidence issue,'' Ms. Bair said.
``Originally, liquidity issues were tied to capital adequacy.
Now I think liquidity issues are tied to just uncertainty. .
. . We are asking Main Street to have confidence in the
banking system. Well, I would ask the banks to have
confidence in the banking system and lend to each other.''
She said a freeze on credit is only making the situation
worse.
``We acknowledge that some individual banks have
challenges, but overall they still have strong capital, and
they've built up their loan loss reserves,'' she said. ``We
shouldn't be freezing up and panicking.''
Though some have argued the bailout bill does not go to the
heart of the issue, Ms. Bair was unequivocal in saying she
thought the buyout facility would help the situation.
``The reason for the liquidity issue is you have an asset
on the balance sheet where the cash flow suggests one
valuation, but if you have to sell it, you will be taking a
steep loss because the market is seizing up,'' she said. ``So
we will be providing a vehicle for moving those assets off
balance sheet for a price other than a rock-bottom distressed
price. We are capable of letting the government hold the
asset for a while before it's sold which will help ease
downward pressure on asset valuations. It absolutely should
help.''
But she acknowledged some concern that the legislation did
not do enough to help struggling borrowers.
Ms. Bair was at the forefront last year in warning that
lenders and servicers needed to systematically lock in low,
starter rates so that borrowers could continue making their
mortgage payments on time. More defaults would lead to
increased foreclosures, which would cause further
deterioration in the housing market. Few took her advice, and
the housing market continued to sink.
If more lenders had modified loans, she said the situation
would still be bad, but not as dramatic.
``We were going to have these problems no matter what, but
I do think it would be less of an impact,'' she said.
But Ms. Bair said she did not understand why Congress is
not doing more to assist borrowers in the bailout
legislation. Lawmakers debated forcing more servicers to
engage in systematic modifications, but ultimately did not do
so.
``I don't understand it,'' she said. ``The borrowers here
that are losing their houses have been this politically
powerless group. From the get go, politically, for whatever
reason, they were put in a category of they got over their
head and were an unsympathetic group to deal with. That is
not the case with all of them.''
I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Virginia (Mr. Moran) for the purpose of a colloquy.
Will the gentleman yield?
I can affirm that. As the gentleman knows, the Treasury Department is in agreement with this, and we should be clear, this is one of the things that this House and the Senate added to the bill, the authority to buy equity. It is not simply buying up the assets, it is to buy equity, and to buy equity in a way that the Federal Government will able to benefit if there is an appreciation.
I thank the gentleman for this important clarification. He is absolutely right.
In implementing the powers provided for in the Emergency
Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, it is the intent of
Congress that Treasury should use Troubled Asset Relief
Program (TARP) resources to fund capital infusion and asset
purchase approaches alone or in conjunction with each other
to enable financial institutions to begin providing credit
again, and to do so in ways that minimize the burden on
taxpayers and have maximum economic recovery impact. Where
the legislation speaks of ``assets'', that term is intended
to include capital instruments of an institution such as
common and preferred stock, subordinated and senior debt, and
equity rights. Also, it is the intent of this legislation
that TARP resources should be used in coordination with
regulatory agencies and their responsibilities under prompt-
corrective-action and least-cost resolution statutes.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to one of our leading attorneys in the House, who, representing the State of California, has a particular knowledge about much of what we are trying to do in this bill in the foreclosure area, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Zoe Lofgren).
Madam Speaker, ever mindful of the danger that George Bush will lead us down the road to socialism, we will be monitoring this very closely.
I now yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Marshall).
Madam Speaker, I yield for a unanimous consent request to a gentleman from Ohio who has been very seriously engaged on this issue.
(Mr. KUCINICH asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
I yield 2 minutes to a member of the Committee on Financial Services, who has been very much concerned with the question of foreclosure, the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Scott).
If the gentleman would yield back to me briefly, I thank him very much. He has been working hard on this, and has also not just professed this in general, but has made some specific suggestions.
Of the four points, two will take separate legislation, and I will work with the gentleman because I am in agreement with him on them, in concept. Two of them, however, are, I believe, able to be accomplished in this bill. I have spoken to the Secretary of the Treasury and, I believe, working together with the gentleman, we can make sure.
Let me just say specifically. Asset managers to support loan modifications will be very important for this success. The bill encourages the Treasury to consider the FDIC, which has been superlative in this regard, to play this role. Also, Treasury, under this bill, can buy virtually any mortgage asset, and we direct them to coordinate with the other agencies, like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and the Federal Home Loan Banks, and to maximize modifications through the program we just adopted.
I yield the gentleman 30 additional seconds.
We will expect the Secretary to use both direct assets and design--to provide special considerations for assets where HOPE for Homeowners or other programs have been used. In other words, we are directing the Treasurer to use his authority to maximize, exactly as the gentleman has proposed. We will continue to press the Secretary, and I believe we don't have to press too hard. He is ready to do this. And we will work with the gentleman on the other issues.
I will yield myself 15 seconds to say that the gentleman can tell his brother-in-law, Hank Aaron, he hit .500 today, and that's pretty good in any league.
Madam Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from Illinois (Mr. Davis) for the purpose of making a unanimous consent request.
(Mr. DAVIS of Illinois asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
I now yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Dingell), the chairman of the Commerce Committee, very knowledgeable in these subjects.
If the gentleman will yield, yes, it is. And I believe, as he and I have discussed, that the danger to the purchase of automobiles is one of the great ones that we face here, and it is an important reason for moving this bill. Yes, I very much agree with what he just said.
If the gentleman would yield, I would say absolutely, because this is one which would have a double positive effect: It would help with the credit crisis, and it would help one of our most important industries in the United States from facing difficulties.
Madam Speaker, the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. Perlmutter) has been one of the hardest working members of our committee, and I yield him 2 minutes.
If the gentleman will yield, the answer is yes. The bill fully authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to do that, and I and others, including the gentleman from Colorado, will be working to make sure that he does, and I have every intention to believe that they intend to.
Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to my colleague, the gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Neal) from the Ways and Means Committee.
If the gentleman will yield, I agree completely. It would be a distortion of the clear meaning of this provision, widely supported, to do anything else but, and we will work to make sure that happens.
I now yield 1 minute to the Chair of the Capital Markets Subcommittee, who has been very carefully watching this situation, the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Kanjorski).
I now yield 1 minute to the chairman of the Appropriations Committee, the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Obey).
Madam Speaker, I would note that one of those whose names would be listed is John McCain, who voted for this bill in the Senate. So Mr. McCain's name would be at the head of that list of the 20.
I now yield 1 minute to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Nadler).
Madam Speaker, I am glad to yield 2 minutes to our newest member, the gentlewoman from Maryland (Ms. Edwards).
If the gentlewoman will yield, the answer is, absolutely. And I can tell you that I have spoken to the Treasury, to the
Secretary, to tell him that it is very important; that many Members will be voting for this bill only with the understanding that he will use that authority. And I believe he accepts that fact and will act on it.
If the gentlewoman would yield again, I thank her for prodding us because thanks in part to her efforts, this is going to be the best we can do. And I appreciate that.
I yield for a unanimous consent request to the gentleman from Texas, a member of our committee, very much concerned with improving economic literacy, Mr. Hinojosa.
(Mr. HINOJOSA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
I now yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from Ohio (Ms. Kaptur), a former member of the committee who deserted us for better things.
I yield 1 minute to a member of the committee, the gentlewoman from Wisconsin (Ms. Moore).
I now yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Waters), the Chair of the Housing Subcommittee, who has done as much as anyone in this House to try to stave off the foreclosure crisis.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to an alumna of our committee who has been a dedicated defender of working class people, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Lee).
Madam Speaker, no Member of Congress in my memory has worked harder and more constructively to improve and pass a bill than the majority whip has.
I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Clyburn).
Madam Speaker, I think I have the honor of speaking on behalf of the body in wishing our friend well.
I now yield for a unanimous request consent to the gentleman from California (Mr. Baca).
(Mr. BACA asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Madam Speaker, I yield for a unanimous consent request to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Fattah).
(Mr. FATTAH asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Madam Speaker, I now yield 1 minute to the gentlewoman from New York (Mrs. Maloney), a member of the committee.
And I will take 10 seconds to say, yes, I understand that this is not everything that needs to be done. We will be back next year to do some serious surgery on the financial structure. But at this point, we have the EMT function. There's an emergency, and we have to avert serious harm. This is step one.
Step two will be the serious work that we will do to prevent this from occurring.
(Mrs. Maloney asked and was given permission to revise and extend her remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I'm happy that the House is able to complete today the Congress' consideration of this bipartisan legislation. As we have stated at every turn,…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I'm happy that the House is able to complete today the Congress' consideration of this bipartisan legislation. As we have stated at every turn, Republicans strongly support the mission and appreciate the sacrifice of our dedicated Reservists and Guardsmen. We continue to agree that Reservists and Guardsmen who are plunged into bankruptcy by the demands of their service should be given a helping hand under the Bankruptcy Code.
Earlier this session, Judiciary Committee Republicans labored long and hard to achieve a workable compromise that would help these willing warriors. The merger issue for us was simple--that the bill respond to bankruptcies attributable to a Reservist's or Guardsman's service. The Senate has returned a bill to us that preserves the balance that we struck. The Senate has added one amendment, but it is technical in nature and was sought by the Administrative Office of the United States courts.
I urge all Members to support the passage of this legislation, and I look forward to the bill's implementation as law. I also look forward to the results 2 years from now of the GAO study contained in the bill. This study will tell us for sure whether Reservists and Guardsmen are using the relief granted by the bill when it is their service that leads to bankruptcy--not other factors. With this study in hand, when the bill reaches its 3-year sunset, we will know for sure whether it's being abused in cases lacking the necessary link to service. If it is being abused, we will be able to address that abuse at the time that reauthorization is considered.
In light of these considerations, I'm pleased to support passage of the bill.
I would also like to thank others who have worked on this bill, in particular Congressman Rohrabacher from California. I made, as the chairman of the Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law that has oversight of the Bankruptcy Act, a promise that we would reconsider this bill that was done some years ago. Mr. Rohrabacher has done an amazing job, given leadership and determination to bring this bill to where it is today and, by doing so, has redeemed my promise and his and that of many other people.
I reserve the balance of my time.
I thank the gentlelady.
The American people are enraged by this bailout, or rescue as we're now calling it, and I think justifiably so. And they ought to be enraged that the real cause here--or the real cause of what I think should be the rage is that this has been done in a way that has been mandated, directed, expected that we would respond without much involvement. The rage of the American people reminds me of a bull often goes after the cape rather than goring the toreador. And what we need to do here, I think--I hope the American people recognize the opportunity to demand a transparent government.
There was no reason why the administration couldn't have made its three-page proposal available not as a legislative demand but as an outline of what the discussions should have been. There is no reason why we here in Congress have not done an open rule and had a debate on this. We could easily have taken this measure, debated it openly, amended it, adjusted it, and done things that make some sense.
Now the problem as I see the bailout--and the gentlelady and I have talked about this at some length--is that it pumps liquidity into banks and takes paper. That paper we hope is good. We hope it will be more valuable than what we have spent on it.
I thank the gentlelady. We have plenty of time on my side. If the gentlelady would like to yield back temporarily, I would be happy to use my time to talk about that point.
I thank the gentlelady, and if she wishes to remain, perhaps we can have a colloquy at some point.
Let me make a couple of points. We have had a long and intense discussion about what we can do to help solve, not the problem of the banks with their toxic loans which we hope we will buy at a reasonable price in a reverse auction, but what we do on the other side of this problem, which is homeowners who can't afford the loans that they got on property that was often misappraised or appraised fraudulently and therefore left in a box without being able to pay, with mortgages that are resetting at higher interest rates, sometimes with higher balances because of the way the mortgages were arranged.
So how do we help Americans stay in their homes in a reasonable fashion? And we've talked about bankruptcy as one way to do that.
Now in the bill that we did not pass here in the House recently, the Secretary had wide authority. I'm expecting that authority to be continued; and what I would hope is that the Secretary will not just put $700 billion into paper which may or may not be useful, but also something like $50 billion or $100 billion into funds that are intended to help people stay in their homes by creating the opportunity to buy mortgages at a discount, then renegotiate those mortgages with the people who are in those homes or others, and thereby avoid the downward spiral of housing costs.
I don't know that we're going to be able to do much with bankruptcy if this bill that passed the Senate passes the House today, I don't know that we're going to be able to deal with it. But I think that we ought to demand as the House that the Secretary recognize that this is not just a matter of buying paper and saving banks, but it's rather a matter of keeping a downward spiral on housing prices from continuing so that Americans can maintain the value on their homes, can keep their homes, and we can get this economic crisis behind us and perhaps even save some money.
I recognize the gentlelady is standing there. I would be happy to yield to her.
Reclaiming my time, I thank the gentlelady. The nice thing about being clear in your principles is that it's possible to negotiate and come up with compromises that work. It's been a pleasure to work with the gentlelady and also the chairman of the full committee who is also here with us, Mr. Conyers. It's not possible to be farther apart on the political spectrum than I think Mr. Conyers and I are, but we have had a very pleasant, and I think profitable, working relationship on many issues where because of his clear principles, and I hope my clear principles, we've been able to reach compromise.
Going back to what the gentlelady was saying, I fervently hope that I will not be part of any further negotiations on bankruptcy. I hope that we solve this problem today or tomorrow, I suppose, and then make the American people more safe by us being out of town and then letting the next year's crop of people come back and deal with the issue.
Let me just reiterate a couple of things the gentlelady has said. $2.1 trillion of subprime and Alt-A loans are in trouble. If we don't do something about that, those loans, as they fail--to the degree that they fail, and many are likely to fail--are likely to draw down to create a suction that will pull down the prices of all the other houses in America, creating chaos in our market.
It's imperative that the Secretary recognize his authority under, I think, the current language, and make it clear that he intends to do something not just about the paper because, as the gentlelady has pointed out, we don't own all of the fractions of the interests in these mortgages, and therefore we don't have the ability, by pumping money into paper, to solve the underlying problem. You have to do that in another way. And certainly where you have a second or a third, there is no ability by the Treasury, under the current program, to deal with that suction on prices.
So I am hoping that the Secretary of the Treasury will today make it clear that he intends to use part of this bailout money for which he has I think the discretion. I think it is important that he be clear that he has that discretion, that he intends to use the money that way so we can create a floor not just under the banks but also under the prices of our homes.
With that, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I noted earlier that the gentleman from California (Mr. Rohrabacher) had worked diligently on this bill, and I talked about his intelligence and determination and the fact that he has redeemed his promise and mine by bringing this bill to the floor today. I would like to yield as much time to him as he may consume.
Will the gentleman yield?
Thank you.
We're now at a point where we're going to be voting very quickly on this bill. I think you heard the colloquy between the gentlelady from California and myself. I'm wondering if the gentleman can be satisfied if the Secretary takes a position publicly that he is going to use some of this bailout money under the discretion that he's given in the bill to do what I suggested earlier, which is, to put money into funds that would buy mortgages and keep people in their homes. Is that the kind of thing that we can do--
Recognizing the gentleman's limited time, we have I think more time on our side, and I would be happy to yield some to Mr. Conyers if he would like more.
Would the gentleman yield for a colloquy on this issue?
Mr. Speaker, I would yield 2 minutes to the gentleman at this point.
The problem we're facing, or course, is the urgency of what's going on. And the gentleman has heard my concern with the failure of the administration to have this aired transparently; but that said, we do have some urgency. If the Secretary is very clear in what he says, can we move forward, as opposed to, say, amending the Senate's bill--which will come over to us--and then sending it back to the Senate for further votes. Personally, I don't think that that is likely to happen; it's your leadership that will control the Rules Committee. But I suspect that we're not going to get the perfect here with the good, that is, a commitment by the Secretary that is clear and open and patent.
Would that serve to resolve the gentleman's concerns?
Mr. Kucinich, if you would like to continue, we don't disagree, and I think by having a further colloquy, I think we actually can come to an understanding.
As I understand your concern, the Secretary does not have the ability--or it would be difficult for him to buy up all the fractionated interests in any given mortgage, and therefore, he is incapable, in his current position--unless he does something remarkable and spends more money than we intend him to spend, he can't provide relief on individual mortgages.
What I'm suggesting the Secretary has the authority to do is to put money into private funds that can then go to the servicing agent of a nonperforming loan, where the person is in an anti-deficiency State, or otherwise can walk away from that loan without recourse to the bank. At that point, the servicing agent has the ability to sell a mortgage, or a package of mortgages. In that event, what I suggest is that if the Secretary will pump some significant resources into the private sector to buy mortgages from servicing agents, and from banks and others, in a market where we are having deterioration of prices, that would tend, dramatically, to solve the problem. It goes a long way toward, I think, the gentleman's concerns.
Reclaiming my time, let me just say the gentlelady is absolutely accurate in her portrayal of the problem. Let me just clarify one thing, because a lot of people listening to us today don't understand what a reset is.
You have mortgages that are at a fixed rate which will then pop up to a market rate in the future. It is that pop up that is a problem. If you have a mortgagee who is behind in his payments, he may be able to stay in the mortgage when it goes up, but he may not be able to afford it. If he's behind, he can't refinance. He's stuck in a world where he can't get out of that mortgage, and the market will drive him. And the bank that wants him to renegotiate can't do it because of the fractionated ownership of that mortgage.
Reclaiming my time, I thank the gentlelady because she has made exactly the point. What we're trying to do here is avoid the collapsing values of houses.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself so much time as I may consume, and it won't be much. Madam Speaker, a little over 20 years ago, I made my first speech on the floor of the House of Representatives.…
Madam Speaker, I yield myself so much time as I may consume, and it won't be much.
Madam Speaker, a little over 20 years ago, I made my first speech on the floor of the House of Representatives. Today could very well be my last speech on the floor of the House. I hope it's not. I hope we come back in a lame duck session to consider pending trade legislation, but this could be my last speech. And I had a real stemwinder prepared, Madam Speaker, but unfortunately, we only have 15 minutes of time that Ways and Means controls, and I have many more speakers than I have time.
So, with the Speaker's indulgence, I will submit my remarks for the Record.
Madam Speaker, on May 5, 1988, during Floor debate on a defense authorization bill, I rose as a freshman Member to address this House for the very first time, urging my colleagues to support an amendment in the name of fiscal responsibility. My very first words on the Floor that day warned of the dangers of the growing national debt. Over the two decades since, I've made scores of speeches and cast more than 11,000 votes in this historic chamber, representing the hardworking taxpayers of Louisiana to the best of my ability.
While I certainly hope we can return in November to complete action on our unfinished trade agenda, Madam Speaker, I rise today for what may be my final Floor speech as a Member of this body. As someone who has spent his entire career fighting for smaller government, freer markets, and greater economic liberty for all Americans, it is sadly ironic that I speak today in favor of a plan that, on its surface, appears to run counter to those principles.
Indeed, Madam Speaker, this proposal seems to undermine the very foundations of capitalism, upending the economic incentives that drive entrepreneurial risk-taking. In America, we rightly celebrate our freedom to succeed in economic ventures. But in America, we're also supposed to be free to fail in those ventures, without expectation of a bailout from fellow taxpayers.
By rushing in with $700 billion in taxpayer dollars to address the current crisis, I fear we are greatly increasing the moral hazard associated with economic risk-taking. I resent the level of government interference in the private market we see in this bill, and I hope it does not set a precedent that Congress follows in the future.
Despite my grave concerns about this proposal, Madam Speaker, the weight of the evidence says we need to act--not to bail out the Wall Street titans, but instead to stabilize the credit markets upon which Main Street depends.
Over recent weeks, I have listened carefully to experts on all sides of this issue, to constituents with a variety of strongly-held views, and to the voice of the U.S. Senate, which passed this emergency plan on Wednesday by a 74-25 vote. On balance, I am convinced that the Treasury Secretary needs to have appropriate authority to halt our Nation's slide into what could become a profound and extended economic downturn. If that were to occur and our financial markets were to collapse, I believe it could open the door to even more government interference in the private marketplace and to even less economic freedom for all Americans.
We must not let that happen. The stakes are simply too high, and the risks to our economy, and our freedoms, are just too great. The circumstances are exigent, Madam Speaker, and, in my judgment, we need to act now.
In addition to three tax provisions contained in the financial rescue portion of the bill--provisions dealing with the treatment of executive compensation, capital losses incurred by banks holding preferred stock in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the tax exclusion for forgiven debt on home mortgages--the bill before us also includes the Senate's comprehensive tax extenders package. This is a positive development, Madam Speaker, because the Senate's tax package provides more than $107 billion in net tax relief to U.S. families and businesses.
With enactment of this bill, we will finally resolve the tax dispute that has divided Republicans and Democrats for the entirety of the 110th Congress, delaying action on the AMT patch and other tax extenders, including a variety of energy-related tax incentives.
Over the past 2 years, Republicans have insisted that we should not have to raise taxes to prevent the tax increases that would result from the scheduled expiration of existing tax law. Democrats, meanwhile, have insisted that the House's paygo rules require us to find offsets for extensions of expired or expiring tax law.
This comprehensive package--previously approved as a free-standing bill by the other body by an overwhelming vote of 93 to 2--represents a bipartisan compromise, much like the financial rescue plan to which it has been attached. It contains extenders provisions that are not fully offset--as many Democrats would prefer--but contains more offsets than many Republicans would like, including some on domestic oil and gas producers that I find particularly troubling.
It is certainly not a perfect package, Madam Speaker, but with adjournment looming, it is the only package that can pass both chambers and actually be enacted into law.
Specifically, this package will protect millions of middle-class taxpayers from falling victim to the AMT in 2008. It provides more than $48 billion in tax relief by extending through
2009 various expired and expiring provisions affecting U.S. families and businesses. And it contains an $18 billion package of energy- related tax incentives, including the creation of a new tax credit for plug-in electric vehicles.
The package also contains a set of disaster-related tax relief provisions, including both nationwide tax relief and targeted tax relief for the victims of this summer's Midwestern storms and for victims of Hurricane Ike in Louisiana and Texas. Finally, the Senate's comprehensive tax package contains several non-tax provisions of significant interest to many Members on both sides of the aisle, including mental health parity and a reauthorization of the Secure Rural Schools program.
All in all, this is a good, bipartisan package of tax proposals, Madam Speaker, and I think its inclusion improves the overall financial rescue package before us by providing important tax relief to our nation's families and businesses at a critical time for our economy.
So today, I will cast my vote for this economic stabilization plan, sobered by the reality that our failure to act could have unprecedented, catastrophic consequences for our country and the economic freedoms for which I've long fought as a Member of this great institution.
I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished minority whip, Mr. Blunt of Missouri.
I yield the gentleman an additional 30 seconds.
Madam Speaker, I want to first say how much I appreciate the very kind words of the gentleman from New York and appreciate very much the opportunity to have worked with him over the last couple of years. He has been more than gracious to me and to all the members of the committee, and so his words were heartfelt, and I very much appreciate them.
With that, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Coble).
Madam Speaker, it's a pleasure to yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Michigan, the ranking member on the Health Subcommittee of the Ways and Means Committee, Mr. Camp.
Madam Speaker, may I inquire as to the remaining time on each side.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from California, a member of the Ways and Means Committee, Mr. Nunes.
I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Tennessee, a distinguished Member of this House, Mr. Wamp.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Texas, a member of the Ways and Means Committee, Mr. Brady.
Madam Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, I yield myself the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, the bill before us today, certainly the tax portion of the bill today, represents a compromise. These extensions of expiring provisions of the Tax Code have been bandied about here in the House back, over in the Senate, back and forth all year long, including the patch on the alternative minimum tax. I'm gratified that we were able to come together to present the tax extenders in this package because I believe very strongly in the overwhelming majority of those provisions. I think they're good, sound tax policy. Members of this House have voted for all of them many times over.
So, Madam Speaker, I encourage a ``yea'' vote on this bill, especially for the tax extenders.
I rise in opposition to this bill. The public is being led to believe that Congress has reconsidered its position because we have before us a better bill than we had a few days ago. It is the same…
I rise in opposition to this bill.
The public is being led to believe that Congress has reconsidered its position because we have before us a better bill than we had a few days ago. It is the same bill plus hundreds of new pages for hundreds of millions of tax breaks. What does this have to do with the troubles of Wall Street?
Driven by fear we are moving quickly to pass a bill, which may produce a temporary uptick for the market but nothing for millions of homeowners whose misfortunes are at the center of our economic woes. People do not have money to pay their mortgages. After this passes, they will still not have money to pay their mortgages. People will still lose their homes while Wall Street is bailed out.
The central flaw of this bill is that there are no stronger protections for homeowners and no changes in the language to ensure that the secretary has the authority to compel mortgage servicers to modify the terms of mortgages. And there are no stronger regulatory changes to fix the circumstances that allowed this to happen.
We should have created a mechanism for our Government to take a controlling interest in mortgage-backed securities and use our power to work out a new deal for the homeowners. We could have done this. We should have done this. But we didn't.
Now millions of Americans will face the threat of foreclosure without any help. And the numbers will soon rise for a number of reasons. Not only because of the Alt-A, jumbo mortgages which will soon be reset at higher interest rates, but because the London Interbank Offered Rate (LIBOR) is pushing up rates on adjustable mortgages and more than half of the U.S. adjustable mortgage rates are tied to LIBOR. Homeowner defaults will grow in significant numbers. Let's see if Congress will be as quick to help homeowners on Main Street as they were to help speculators on Wall Street.
Now the Government will have to borrow $700 billion from banks, with interest, to give banks a $700 billion bailout, and in return the taxpayers get $700 billion in toxic debt. The Senate ``improved'' the bailout by giving tax breaks to people in foreclosure. People in foreclosure need help paying their mortgage, they do not seek tax breaks.
Across our Nation, foreclosures continue to devastate our communities, people are losing their jobs, and the prices of necessities are skyrocketing. This legislation, just like the one we defeated last week, will do nothing to solve the problems plaguing American families or help them to get out from underneath the oppressive debt they have been forced to take on.
Unfortunately, there has been no discussion of the underlying debt- based economy and the role of our monetary system in facilitating the redistribution of wealth upwards.
It is not as though we had no choice but to pass the bill before us. We could have done this differently. We could have demanded language in the legislation that would have empowered the Treasury to compel mortgage servicers to rework the terms of mortgage loans so homeowners could avoid foreclosure. We could have put regulatory structures in place to protect investors. We could have stopped the speculators.
This bill represents an utter failure of the democratic process. It represents the triumph of special interest over the triumph of the public interest. It represents the inability of Government to defend the public interest in the face of great pressure from financial interests. We could have recognized the power of Government to prime the pump of the economy to get money flowing through out society by creating jobs, health care, and major investments in green energy. What a lost opportunity! What a moment of transition away from democracy and towards domination of America by global economic interests.
Years ago, in a Cleveland neighborhood, I saw a hand-scrawled sign above a cash register in a delicatessen. The sign said: ``In God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash.'' The sign above the Speaker's rostrum reads ``In God We Trust,'' but today we are paying the cash to Wall Street.
It is not as if we had no other choice but to pass this bill.
[From Ohio.com, Oct. 3, 2008]
Foreclosure Victim, 90, Apparently Shoots Self
(By Phil Trexler)
At the age of 90, Addie Polk found herself in foreclosure
this week, about to be forced from the home she's lived in
for nearly 40 years.
So, with a gun in her hand, the Akron widow apparently shot
herself in the chest Wednesday afternoon as deputies were
knocking on her door with eviction papers in hand.
While a nation reels in financial crisis from years of
mortgage abuse, Polk is recovering at Akron General Medical
Center, awaiting word on where she will live when she's
released.
Meanwhile, city leaders say Polk has become Akron's
``poster child'' for victims of predatory lenders.
``I think this is a case where we need to step in and help
this lady if she is so desperate to shoot herself because she
can't pay her mortgage,'' Akron Councilman Marco Sommerville
said.
Court records show Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent
mortgage just four years ago for $45,620 with a Countrywide
Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls. She took out a line of
credit that same day for $11,380.
Her La Croix Avenue home was appraised by Summit County in
2004 at $31,230.
The Countrywide branch did not return a call for comment
Thursday.
Polk essentially owed the same $45,000 when the Federal
National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae) filed for
foreclosure on her home in 2007. Fannie Mae assumed the
mortgage from Countrywide.
Following foreclosure this year, Polk's six-room, 101-year-
old home was bought by Fannie Mae at sheriffs auction for
$28,000.
Her house now belongs to the lender.
Summit County sheriffs deputies say Polk ignored multiple
notes and letters leading up to Wednesday's eviction. She
also ignored the foreclosure action filed in court.
It wasn't until Tuesday that she called the sheriffs office
in disbelief. The next day was eviction day.
``I'm positive she believed the deputies were going to come
in, clean out the house and set her and her things on the
curb, because they did that decades ago. But that's not what
happens nowadays,'' sheriffs Lt. Kandy Fatheree said.
``I'm sure she had to be thinking back to the Great
Depression when people were set out on the street. She had to
be scared to death.''
Deputies Dave Bailey, Jason Beam and Don Fatheree went to
the home about 1 p.m. Wednesday to meet with a Fannie Mae
representative and escort Polk from the house. They said they
had no idea the woman was 90 years old.
The deputies' knocks were unanswered, and they were about
to leave because the Fannie Mae representative failed to
show. Then, they heard a banging noise coming from the home's
second floor.
Next-door neighbor Robert Dillon heard it, too. More bangs
followed.
Dillon borrowed a neighbor's ladder and climbed through
Polk's second-floor bathroom window and walked into her
bedroom. She was lying on her side, a gun next to her on the
bed.
``I'm thinking to myself, `Why does Mrs. Polk got a gun?'
'' Dillon said. ``After looking around, I touched her
shoulder and saw the blood and I said, `Shucks, she done shot
herself.' ''
Dillon, 62, shouted to the deputies, who alerted Akron EMS.
Polk apparently shot herself more than once with a small-
caliber handgun, police said.
Polk and her late husband, Robert, a Goodrich retiree,
moved into the home in 1970. He died in 1995, but Polk
continued to live independently, but alone, still driving her
late model Chevrolet to the grocery store and church.
She appeared to be struggling financially, Dillon said, but
he said she never spoke of the foreclosure action looming for
more than a year.
She had no children of her own and few visitors, he said.
``She didn't need no help. She got around good,'' he said.
It is unclear how Polk used the loan money. Dillon said he
didn't notice any work being done on the property, and
deputies said her front porch was soft from years of neglect.
``Where'd the money go?'' Dillon asked.
Sommerville said he is working with the city and the county
to assist Polk with housing, once she is released from the
hospital.
He said the city has been awarded more than $8 million in
federal grants in the wake of the mortgage crisis to help
cope with the crush.
Sommerville said Polk's fate humanizes the problem for the
rich and poor. And he urged those facing foreclosure to seek
assistance through various local and county agencies.
``It's a sad situation,'' he said. ``She's the poster child
for this foreclosure crisis we are facing.''
Mr. President, I rise today to introduce the Harmful Algal Bloom and Hypoxia Amendments Act of 2008. This bill would enhance the research programs established in the Harmful Algal Blooms and Hypoxia…
Mr. President, I rise today to introduce the Harmful Algal Bloom and Hypoxia Amendments Act of 2008. This bill would enhance the research programs established in the Harmful Algal Blooms and Hypoxia Research and Control Act of 1998 and reauthorized in 2004, which have greatly enhanced our ability to predict outbreaks of harmful algal blooms and the extent of hypoxic zones. But knowing when outbreaks will occur is only half the battle. By funding additional research into mitigation and prevention of HABs and hypoxia, and by enabling communities to develop response strategies to more effectively reduce their effects on our coastal communities, this legislation would take the next critical steps to reducing the social and economic impacts of these potentially disastrous outbreaks.
I am proud to continue my leadership on this important issue and I particularly want to thank my counterpart on this key piece of legislation, Senator Bill Nelson. My partnership with Senator Breaux on the first two harmful algal bloom bills proved extremely fruitful, and I am pleased that the Gulf of Mexico--whose coastal residents are severely impacted by both harmful algal blooms, also known as HABs, and hypoxia--will continue to be so well represented as this program moves into the future. I also want to thank the bill's additional co- sponsors, Senators Cantwell, Kerry, Vitter, Voinovich, Boxer and Levin for their vital contributions. We all represent coastal States directly affected by harmful algal blooms and hypoxia, and we see first hand the ecological and economic damage caused by these events.
In New England blooms of Alexandrium algae, more commonly known as ``red tide'', can cause shellfish to accumulate toxins that when consumed by humans lead to paralytic shellfish poisoning (PSP), a potentially fatal neurological disorder. Therefore, when levels of Alexandrium reach dangerous levels, our fishery managers are forced to close shellfish beds that provide hundreds of jobs and add millions of dollars to our regional economy. Red tide outbreaks--which occur in various forms not just in the northeast, but along thousands of miles of U.S. coastline--have increased dramatically in the Gulf of Maine in the last 20 years, with major blooms occurring almost every year.
In 2005, the most severe red tide since 1972 blanketed the New England coast from Martha's Vineyard to Downeast Maine, resulting in extensive commercial and recreational shellfish harvesting closures lasting several months at the peak of the seafood harvesting season. In a peer-reviewed study, economists found that the 2005 event caused over $2.4 million in lost landings of shellfish in the State of Maine alone, and more than $10 million throughout New England.
In May of this year, scientists once more predicted an abundance of Alexandrium off the New England coast, marking the onset of yet another severe harmful algal bloom in the area. Just yesterday, Maine's Department of Marine Resources announced the closure of additional shellfish beds covering many areas from Cutler east to the Canadian border, and today the Food and Drug Administration asked the National Marine Fisheries Service to issue a closure of a section of Federal waters near George's Bank to the harvest of ocean quahogs and surf clams.
Still, while this year's bloom has tracked the pattern of the 2005 event, thanks to previous investments in HAB programs, localized testing has led to fewer closures. Unlike 2005 when nearly the entire coast of Massachusetts and much of Maine was declared off-limits to shell fishermen, in this year's bloom, some unaffected areas remain open despite being directly adjacent to contaminated beds. These detailed forecasting and testing measures will greatly reduce the economic impact such outbreaks impose on our coastal communities, and is directly attributable to the efforts authorized in previous HAB legislation.
Mr. President, while we have made great strides in bloom prediction and monitoring, it is clear that these problems have not gone away, but rather increased in magnitude. Harmful algal blooms remain prevalent nationwide, and areas of hypoxia, also known as ``dead zones'', are now occurring with increasing frequency. Within a dead zone, oxygen levels plummet to the point at which they can no longer sustain life, driving out animals that can move, and killing those that cannot. The most infamous dead zone occurs annually in the Gulf of Mexico, off the shores of Louisiana. In 2007, researchers there predicted the biggest hypoxic zone ever recorded, covering more than 8,500 square miles. Dead zones are also occurring with increasing frequency in more areas than ever before, including off the coasts of Oregon and Texas.
The amendments contained in this legislation would enhance the Nation's ability to predict, monitor, and ultimately control harmful algal blooms and hypoxia. Understanding when these blooms will occur is vital, but the time has come to take this program to the next level--to determine not just when an outbreak will occur, but how to reduce its intensity or prevent its occurrence all together. This bill would build on NOAA's successes in research and forecasting by creating a program to mitigate and control HAB outbreaks.
This bill also recognizes the need to enhance coordination among State and local resource managers--those on the front lines who must make the decisions to close beaches or shellfish beds. Their decisions are critical to protecting human health, but can also impose significant economic impacts. The bill would mandate creation of Regional Research and Action Plans that would identify baseline research, possible State and local government actions to prepare for and mitigate the impacts of HABs, and establish outreach strategies to ensure the public is
informed of the dangers these events can present. A regional focus on these issues will ensure a more effective and efficient response to future events.
Mr. President, if enacted, this critical reauthorization would greatly enhance our Nation's ability to predict, monitor, mitigate, and control outbreaks of HABs and hypoxia. Over half the U.S. population resides in coastal regions, and we must do all in our power to safeguard their health and the health of the marine environment. The existing Harmful Algal Bloom and Hypoxia Program has done a laudable job to date, and this authorization will allow them to expand their scope and provide greater benefits to the Nation as a whole. I thank my cosponsors again for their efforts in developing this vital legislation.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the bill be printed in the Record.
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Madam Speaker, today is a historic day in the United States Congress as the President has called on us to meet the challenge of the failure of the mortgage market, and our failure to do that would…
Madam Speaker, today is a historic day in the United States Congress as the President has called on us to meet the challenge of the failure of the mortgage market, and our failure to do that would not only cause a crisis in the United States but throughout the world.
Seven hundred billion dollars we've asked to expose the taxpayers to from an administration that all I've heard in the last 8 years is that we have to keep government out of the free market, that government and regulations would strangle our economy.
And the fact is that in such a short period of time, had it not been for Barney Frank and people on the other side of the aisle in trying to do the best we can, we leave here with a heavy conscience that if we do nothing then the sacrifice will be felt by employees, their thrift accounts, their savings accounts, and small businesses.
So, in a sense, we have a political gun at our heads that we can't afford to say that we know better, and so most of us have agreed that Secretary Paulson and economists have given us fair warning.
Now, that's enough and it's complicated enough, but then we have had the threat of tax bills that expire at the end of the year. Companies that have relied on tax credits, individuals who relied on it, expire. And four times we sent energy bills to the other body, and four times they've ignored it.
Included in these bills, of course, has always been disaster relief, and all of us believe these people should get it; mental health parity, which God knows all of us that have any sensitivity recognize that this inequity has to be taken care of; and of course, the alternative minimum tax, that no Member in this House or the other body can ever explain to taxpayers why this over $60 billion burden should fall on their shoulders because the Congress didn't think far enough ahead in order to adjust this tax for inflation.
And so in a sense, Madam Speaker, we're being told that the burden would fall on 25 million people by the Senate, by our constituents and the country and entire world, by the administration if we don't have this $700 billion rescue bill. And I just hope and pray that sometime historically we might be able to regain the power that we used to have in the House, introduce bills, have hearings, and fully understand what we're doing rather than having to yield to the threat of disaster, whether it's fiscal or whether it's tax liability.
I see John Tanner walking on the floor, and I do want to say that he's an outstanding member of our committee. He's been talking about the deficit for a long time, and his contribution to this package, I'd like to point out, has made him a proud member of our committee and the Congress.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that I be allowed to say farewell to my friend Jim McCrery without having it attributed to the allotted time.
I had no idea that we would be coming back here and I would have this opportunity, but for some of us being Members of Congress, and especially members of the Ways and Means Committee, it has been a special privilege.
This historic committee, however, has had its ups and downs with partisanship, the likes of which we had not seen on the committee or in the House of Representatives.
I hardly knew Jim McCrery during the years he was on the committee because the other side was dominated by one personality, but as soon as things changed and I had the opportunity to meet and talk with him as the ranking member, I not only found a scholar and a gentleman, but I found someone who loved his country and Congress more than he loved the partisanship.
It wasn't as though we have been able to resolve many of the crises that exist in our committee, but the one thing that he did do, and it will continue after he leaves us, is to create a climate where we had a degree of respect for each other and especially when we needed that respect, when we disagree and our parties disagree.
His legacy, even though he leaves, will continue to know that in this House no matter how frank we are politically, we still can be civil. We still can get things done, and even when we're not successful, we can work in such a manner that other people following us would know that we can disagree without being disagreeable.
So, Jim, I speak for all of the Democrats on the committee, for the tone, for your congeniality, for your humor, for the wisdom that you contributed, and I know that it's been awkward for your party and mine at times to do the things that we wanted to do. We started off dealing with the Secretary Treasurer and we promised him we'd do the world. Unfortunately, we didn't check with our leadership on a lot of things that we thought we could do.
But we will continue to do that, and I do hope that the lessons that you taught so many of us will continue long after you're gone.
Madam Speaker, at this time, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished chairman of the Health Subcommittee, who's worked hard on the overall bill before us today, Chairman Pete Stark from California.
Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to Mr. Neal, an outstanding member of the Ways and Means Committee who has done a great job for all of us.
Madam Speaker, there is no one in this House that cares more about the tax burden that we're putting on the next generation and the children that follow than the gentleman from Tennessee (Mr. Tanner). He has made a great contribution in improving this bill, and he continues to be a watchdog of the deficit that this administration has taken us in.
I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman.
(Mr. TANNER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
At this time, I yield 1 minute to Mr. Blumenauer of Oregon, one of the outstanding members of our committee, the Ways and Means Committee.
Madam Speaker, Mr. John Lewis is a subcommittee chairman on the Ways and Means Committee and sometimes described as ``the conscience of the Congress.'' I regret I only have 1 minute to yield to him at this time.
Madam Speaker, I would like to yield to Mr. Kind of Wisconsin for 1\1/2\ minutes.
Madam Speaker, at this time, to Mr. Pascrell from New Jersey, a great member of the Ways and Means Committee, I would like to yield 1\1/2\ minutes.
Madam Speaker, at the Speaker's request, I would like to yield 1 minute to Mr. Sherman of California.
Madam Speaker, I would like to yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Crowley).
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this bill. It is obviously important that we make sure that any of our armed servicemembers who have suffered a financial loss because of…
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this bill. It is obviously important that we make sure that any of our armed servicemembers who have suffered a financial loss because of their service have access to relief through the bankruptcy courts. That's the least we can do to assist these fine men and women.
But I rise also to say that there are other things that are not yet before us in the bankruptcy arena that we, I believe, are gaining some bipartisan support for.
Many of us have expressed concern that lacking in the recovery package that we will be voting on tomorrow is any provision that deals with the primary mortgage, mortgage on a primary residence, that might be one of many tools to deal with the underlying crisis that has created this worldwide economic instability.
I would have preferred that such a measure be in the recovery package, but it is not essential that the measure be part of the package. It is possible to move such a measure separately.
We were here earlier in the week. I complimented my colleague from Utah saying that it was unlikely we would be on the floor together again because he is not returning, but here we are. And I would just like to compliment him for the hard work and discussions that he has put in behind the scenes over the last several weeks to see if disagreements can be resolved and if parties can come together in the interest of the country. I can't say that we have accomplished that yet, but I think that we have an opportunity, and I actually am quite optimistic that we will be successful in that effort that would be very important for our country.
I see the gentleman standing there. I wonder if I could yield to him, if he wishes to make a comment.
I wonder, I did yield, but we have other speakers. So I wonder if--and we can have this further discussion--but whether on the mortgage, primary residence mortgage issue, you think there is further opportunity to make progress between Republicans and Democrats, conservatives, and nonconservatives?
I will do so because I don't want to take advantage of the chairman's yielding me unlimited time when there are other speakers.
But I would just say in the discussions that we have had that have been
very honest and very practical--and I think totally bipartisan, I would even say nonpartisan--trying to find common ground in the interest of the American people in this. I have a sense of optimism that we can do something important on the mortgage bankruptcy issue aside from this recovery package that is coming.
Having said that, I will yield back to the chairman of the committee, and perhaps Mr. Cannon will use some of his time to further explore this.
Thank you for yielding.
I would just note that in fact in the rescue package there is a provision requiring the Secretary to renegotiate loans and that will actually, I think, be of tremendous value in dealing with the foreclosure crisis that we face when the government owns the whole mortgage, all of the mortgage. But because securities are being purchased because the credit markets are frozen, we won't necessarily own all of the mortgages in every case. And half of the subprimes have second and third mortgages that will be able to defeat any effort to renegotiate.
So I think that moving a narrowly crafted, for-subprime-only primary residence mortgage measure either later in this Congress or early next might be something that could avoid the $2.1 trillion in mortgages that are set to reset and certainly are at risk of default in the next 18 months.
I am just stating here today, I think we have an opportunity to accomplish that working across the aisle and working across ideological barriers because really we're all in the same place. We want Americans to be safe and secure in their homes. If they are able to meet their obligations, we should go the extra mile to allow them to do that.
I just want to say once again how much I have appreciated working with you, Congressman Cannon, over these years. And I said this earlier this week, but if you look at your voting record, you've got one of the most conservative voting records in this Congress, and as I mentioned, I do not. But that has never prevented us from working together to find solutions for the American people.
I really think you're a remarkable legislator, someone whom I respect a great deal, and I thank you for your service to our country.
If I may, I think the Secretary has the authority to acquire all mortgages. We fear that he may not. I frankly think if the Secretary--or his successor, starting in January-- were to make that a priority, we would solve more of this problem than if it was just done in the natural course of events. I personally believe we need another remedy that I pledge to try and move separately from this package having to do with the bankruptcy primary residence mortgage issue that we have discussed at tremendous length.
If the gentleman would yield, as we both know, because we were on the same conference call with one of the foremost authorities in the United States on this subject, the expectation is, in the natural course of events, that about 20 percent of the acquisition of securities would result in owning all of the rights in order to do a negotiation.
So when you look at the entire package, it's not what we want, but it's not nothing either. I mean, if you could actually renegotiate 20 percent of the reset, it would have a market impact. What you're suggesting, I think, makes sense. And I think, also, that the bill that's coming back would allow the Secretary to actually do what you have suggested because there is that discretion in the measure.
If we did what you've suggested, if the experts are correct that we will have 20 percent of all ownership to renegotiate as provided for in the bill, we're still going to need an additional tool which we're not going to get in this bill, but to do a narrow carve-out for the subprime markets to be able to--for judicial intervention for those areas that we cannot get the rights for.
I thank the gentleman for yielding.
If the gentleman would yield.
If I may, I'm glad you did that explanation. And for people listening who don't have a subprime, it's going to affect them as well. Because if you have a prime mortgage but every neighbor in your entire neighborhood has had their property values collapse, your property value is also going to collapse. So this is everybody.
Mr. President, I rise today to introduce legislation that will address an ongoing problem that adversely affects local communities and coastal areas around my home State of Florida and across coastal…
Mr. President, I rise today to introduce legislation that will address an ongoing problem that adversely affects local communities and coastal areas around my home State of Florida and across coastal States nationwide.
Today, Senator Snowe and I, along with Senators Cantwell, Kerry, Vitter, Levin, Voinovich, Boxer, Cardin, and Mikulski, are introducing a bill that would reauthorize and enhance the Harmful Algal Bloom and Hypoxia Research and Control Act, HABHRCA, which was enacted in 1998 and reauthorized 4 years ago. This act has enabled critical monitoring, forecasting, and research activities that have greatly improved our understanding and prediction of harmful algal blooms, nuisance blooms like red drift, and low-oxygen or hypoxia events that plague our estuaries and coastal waters.
While the accomplishments made to date through HABHRCA are certainly valuable and to be commended, more work lies ahead. In Florida, harmful algal blooms, including red tides, and frequent red drift events continue to occur along our coasts.
According to experts from Mote Marine Laboratory in Sarasota, most of Florida's red tides are caused by a microscopic algae called Karenia brevis, which creates blooms that can last for months and cover hundreds of square miles. What makes this organism so harmful are the toxins it produces. These toxins can kill fish, birds, and other marine animals. For humans, the toxins trigger respiratory problems, eye and skin irritation, and shellfish poisoning when the toxins accumulate in oysters and clams. When these blooms die, the decomposing algae strip oxygen from the water column. These hypoxic conditions deprive fish, manatees, and other animal species of the oxygen they need to survive.
A particularly devastating and intense red tide struck the Florida gulf coast in the summer of 2005, causing widespread animal deaths and public health and economic problems. The St.
Petersburg/Clearwater Area Convention and Visitors Bureau estimated upwards of $240 million in losses for the Tampa region as a result of this bloom.
Scientists have told us that red tides are a lot like hurricanes complex but natural phenomena that can have profound impacts on our environment and society. Although we may not be able to stop this natural process, we can do more to predict it and take actions to minimize its impacts on our citizens and natural resources.
While red drift algae lack the toxins associated with red tide, they can nonetheless cause enormous problems along Florida's beaches. We have had numerous red drift events in Florida over the last few years. In March 2007, some witnesses described clumps of red drift algae the size of hay bales floating on the surface of the Gulf of Mexico, and washing onshore from Fort Myers to Anna Maria Island. Scientists have also been looking into whether nutrients from the decomposing algae may feed subsequent blooms, keeping local waters in a terrible cycle.
Other algal blooms are impairing waterways and causing social and economic problems in my state. Earlier this month, a water treatment plant on the Caloosahatchee River in Lee County had to be closed temporarily due to a bloom of blue-green algae.
It is clear that harmful algal blooms and hypoxia events can have devastating impacts on water and air quality, aquatic species, wildlife, and beach conditions, which in turn affect public health, commercial and recreational fishing, tourism, and related businesses in our coastal communities. The question becomes, what can we do to stop this? If we can't stop these events, how can we better plan for them and take steps to minimize the impacts?
We have learned from scientists and researchers, many of whom were funded by HABHRCA-authorized programs, that some harmful algal blooms and red drift events can be triggered by excess nutrients from upland areas that wash into rivers and are delivered to the coast. Because this problem often crosses political and geographic boundaries, we must pursue solutions that are regional in nature and bring together expertise from all levels of government, from academia, and from other outside groups who have a stake in keeping our coastal waters healthy, clean, and productive.
Senator Snowe and I have worked together to craft a bill that will not only continue critical research on harmful algal blooms and hypoxia, but help address some of these pressing needs that exist on every coast--from the Atlantic and Gulf of Mexico, to the Pacific and the Great Lakes. Our bill will help integrate and improve coordination among the government's programs that study and monitor these events. The bill would also improve how regional, state, and local needs are considered when prioritizing research grants and developing related products. Most importantly, this bill would focus new resources on translating research results into tools and products that state and local governments can use to help prevent, respond to, and mitigate the impacts of these events.
Although we have made significant progress in identifying some of the causes and consequences of harmful algal blooms and hypoxia since 1998, much work remains to find solutions that minimize the occurrence of these events and that enable our coastal communities to become resilient to the impacts. This legislation to amend and reauthorize the Harmful Algal Blooms and Hypoxia Act represents an important step toward realizing those goals.
In closing, I would like to recognize Senator Snowe for her leadership on this issue. As the sponsor of both the original legislation in 1998 and the 2004 amendments, her expertise on harmful algal blooms and the impacts of these events on her constituents has proved invaluable as we developed the measure before us today. I look forward to working with Senator Snowe, in her role as ranking member of the Oceans, Atmosphere, Fisheries, and Coast Guard Subcommittee of the Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee, as well as with Chairman Cantwell and the other members of our subcommittee, to debate this important legislation.
I certainly will. I thank the gentleman for his generosity with the time, and thank my colleagues on both sides of the aisle for their support of S. 3197, which will help those who served this…
I certainly will.
I thank the gentleman for his generosity with the time, and thank my colleagues on both sides of the aisle for their support of S. 3197, which will help those who served this country save their home and save what they work a lifetime for.
It is very poignant that we could come to this bill at this moment, when we understand the importance of helping those who have served this country save their homes.
Because, actually, it does lead to that larger question because we are all in tune now with the fact that millions of Americans--including those who serve this country--through no fault of their own are finding their homes at risk, millions of Americans. And unfortunately, despite the best efforts of people on both sides of the aisle, the House will have delivered to it a bill from the Senate that does not directly address that question. Because unless this country takes a controlling interest, unless the Secretary of the Treasury would take a controlling interest in these mortgage-backed securities so they can negotiate on behalf of the homeowners to reduce their exposure to losing their home, this bill will be for naught.
Let's keep in mind that a central premise of the American Dream is owning a home. We understand that for our soldiers, and we should do something here. And we also need to understand that all over this country there are people who are watching these debates and wondering, are we going to do something to help them save their home? Because that's what we ought to be doing. And the way that we can do it, Mr. Chairman, is that instead of taking a strategy that assumes that the trickle is going to get down from the top by giving $700 billion to Wall Street, we instead focus on creating a solution for the homeowners and know that then the money will begin to percolate up to the banks and back to Wall Street instead of assuming the government gives the money to Wall Street, goes to the banks, and it gets to the people. Not under the bill that the Senate is sending over here.
So, while we want to do everything we can for our soldiers--and we should--we need to understand that looming here is one of the biggest challenges we've seen in American history to the concept of homeownership: Home is core, home is central, home relates to everything that we're all about. But home is in jeopardy here in the United States of America. Millions of mortgages are headed towards default. Millions of Americans are in danger of losing their home. And this Wall Street bailout, unfortunately, does not address it.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I sent a letter over to our Speaker yesterday pointing this out to her, telling her that we need to create a change that will enable the Secretary of the Treasury to focus in on this and to give him the ability to get a controlling interest in these mortgage-backed securities because, as has been pointed out by my colleagues, we don't have that right now. And unless you address that, all this is going to be for naught. You might see the market go up for a day if the House passes the bill, but you know what's going to happen: You're still going to see millions of Americans losing their homes.
Of course I would yield to my friend.
Taking back my time, the bill has language which might be discretionary, but we in the House understand the difference between something that's discretionary and mandatory. And we also know that the way the bill is structured, unless you have a controlling interest in these mortgage pools, there's no way you can do anything because then you have to talk with 20, 30 other interests in order to be able to come to resolution. That's not going to happen.
So we need to be real about this; and, unfortunately, that isn't always the case in our Congress. And when we get real about it and connect to people's aspirations to save their homes with a real solid legislative structure to deliver on that, then the American people and then our economy can celebrate the wisdom of the Congress. Right now, that jury is still out.
I yield to my friend.
I would.
Mr. Speaker, may I inquire as to how much time I have remaining?
To my good friend from Utah, the clarity of the Secretary will not trump the language of the legislation. And the language of the legislation does not permit him to be able to have an effective role in saving people's homes. It talks about encouraging, it talks about ``may do,'' but it is not mandatory. And he doesn't have the additional power because there is no mechanism in there to give us a controlling interest so that we can actually create a fix.
I yield to the gentlelady from California.
Reclaiming my time, and thanking the gentlelady and the gentleman, I would say that the legislation doesn't fix the problem; that is the central point. It doesn't empower the Secretary to be able to get controlling interest of the mortgage-backed
securities. And that is the central flaw of the policies that we're pursuing. And millions of Americans who are in danger of losing their homes are not going to be helped.
I want to conclude by thanking Mr. Cannon for his service to the United States Congress.
And that's all I need.
When you look at the difference in the debate here, hear these words, ``we may save the world ``or ``we shall save the world''; ``we may save people's homes'' or ``we shall save their homes.'' I want a bill that says ``we shall save their homes.'' And that's not what the bill is that we're being sent by the Senate.
I thank the gentleman for yielding, Madam Speaker. I'm glad we're here at this work today. I do think that the bill has improved and the situation has clarified from Monday. We need to come together.…
I thank the gentleman for yielding, Madam Speaker.
I'm glad we're here at this work today. I do think that the bill has improved and the situation has clarified from Monday. We need to come together. We need to get this work done. It's incredibly important. It seems to me that two significant things have happened: one, the changes in the bill that others will talk about and I will talk about a little bit; and two, the changes at the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Accounting Standards Board that have set forth a new way to evaluate these assets that are causing so much trouble in the marketplace.
Now, where I live, nobody talks about illiquid assets. They talk about mortgages. They talk about how to pay the bills. They talk about whether they can borrow money or not, and at the end of the day, Madam Speaker, that's what this bill is about.
It's not about Wall Street. It's about Main Street. It's not a bailout. It's a situation where American taxpayers are going to invest money in a way that ensures they have a return. I think with the work we've done here, we've not only ensured that they're likely is never likely to be a question of return, but beyond that, if at the end of 5 years taxpayers would appear have lost any money, the President will propose and Congress will act on a set of recommendations that go back to the agencies that participated and say we're going to recover whatever was lost.
This is a chance where American taxpayers are investing in their own future. This is an opportunity where people are helping stabilize a market. We saw a bank purchase this week where it looked like the government would have to be part of the purchase, but after the government came in and said here's how we're going to work to stabilize the situation, suddenly there's a market and suddenly that purchase is much different than it would have been without government participation.
This bill allows that kind of stabilization. This bill protects taxpayers. This bill has every known oversight mechanism ever conceived of by government in it now. None of those were asked for initially by the administration but they're all there now, a special Inspector General, a board that sets policy, a congressional oversight group, GAO with special authority, ultimate transparency.
This is a bill the taxpayers can look at and say this is well beyond the proposal that came to the Congress. It has a transparency. It has the oversight. It has the guarantees that taxpayers should ask for, but it also has lots of options, options that weren't in the original proposal, not just to loan money, not just to purchase mortgages and other securities, but to set up an insurance plan so if that's one of the things that would make more sense in certain areas it can be used.
It's a critical moment.
I'd like to put in the Record, Madam Speaker, a letter I received from the Secretary of the Treasury talking about the rules and regulations that they will pursue that will assure that eligible financial institutions must be established and regulated to have significant operations in the United States. It's not talking about foreign banks. Also requiring that--in the letter that they will set up rules and regulations so that people participating in this program won't benefit from this program.
Department of the Treasury,
Washington, DC, October 2, 2008.
Hon. Roy Blunt,
House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Blunt: I am writing regarding the Emergency
Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.
The Act requires that eligible financial institutions must
be established and regulated and have significant operations
in the United States. Furthermore, it is the intention of the
Department of the Treasury that all mortgages or mortgage-
related assets purchased in the Troubled Asset Relief Program
will be based on or related to properties in the United
States.
The Act requires the Department of the Treasury to prevent
unjust enrichment of financial institutions selling troubled
assets into the Troubled Asset Relief Program, including
preventing the sale of a troubled asset to the Treasury at a
higher price than what the seller paid to purchase the asset.
The Act specifies a single exemption for troubled assets
acquired in a merger or acquisition or a purchase of assets
from a financial institution that is established and
regulated in the United States and that is in
conservatorship, receivership or bankruptcy. The Department
of the Treasury believes this exemption is important to
encouraging healthy institutions to pursue acquisitions of
struggling institutions. Such acquisitions help to protect
depositors, taxpayers and the financial system.
The Department of the Treasury will issue regulations or
guidelines necessary to address and manage or to prohibit
conflicts of interest that may arise in connection with the
administration and execution of the authorities provided
under the Act as soon as practicable after the date of
enactment.
Sincerely,
Henry M. Paulson, Jr.
Mr. President, I rise today with my colleague Senator Dodd to introduce a bill that will have a tremendous impact on millions of young adults in America who will suffer from mental illness in their…
Mr. President, I rise today with my colleague Senator Dodd to introduce a bill that will have a tremendous impact on millions of young adults in America who will suffer from mental illness in their lifetime. The Healthy Transition Act of 2008 is an important bill and I look forward to its passage.
Senator Dodd has been an ardent champion for children, and as the Sponsor of the Garrett Lee Smith Memorial Act in 2004 and the bill to reauthorize the successful grant program again last year, it has been an honor to work with him to ensure our Nation's youth and their mental health needs are not forgotten.
I want to begin by thanking my colleague Representative Pete Stark for working with me on this important issue and for joining me in requesting a report by the Government Accountability Office,GAO last year on the barriers facing youth with serious mental health disorders as they age into adulthood. It has been a pleasure to work with him on drafting legislation that we will introduce today as I know he shares a passion for improving the lives of our children and young adults.
This time in a young person's life is so difficult with the pressures of being independent, finding a first job, going to college and really discovering who you are. For so many of our Nation's youth this time is made so much more difficult by their struggle with mental illness. My son Garrett struggled with his transition to adulthood and in his ability to access the help he needed during this critical time. These young adults deserve our attention, our support and our compassion.
Finally, I want to thank the many stakeholders and advocates that have put so much time and dedication into working with us to introduce this bill, the Healthy Transition Act of 2008. They include the National Alliance on Mental Illness, the Children's Defense Fund, the National Federation of Families for Children's Mental Health, the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law, and the American Psychological Association, just to name a few.
The findings of the GAO report that Congressman Stark and I requested, tells us that at least 2.4 million young adults aged 18-26 had a mental illness in 2006. We know that this number could be greatly understated as it does not count young adults who are institutionalized, incarcerated or homeless--all of which are groups that are known to have higher rates of mental illness.
These young people have such tremendous challenges that cause them to demonstrate lower rates of high school graduation and college attendance than their peers who do not suffer from mental illness. They also have lower propensity to find employment and remain stable in their communities. In my home State of Oregon, this transition-age population was found to be 80 percent less likely than any other population in the State with mental health needs to receive services.
However, from this report, and the work innovative States are doing to support our young people, we know that we can do a better job of helping these youth. We can do better at ensuring they can remain stable in their communities, that they can live healthy lives, and that they can prosper as adults.
The bill that Senator Dodd, Representative Stark and I are introducing today will support States that want to do better for our Nation's young adults with mental illness. As the GAO found, too often services are not directed at this population or young adults are shoved into a system that was designed for a different age group with different needs.
Our bill, the Healthy Transition Act of 2008, will provide grants to States to first develop statewide coordination plans to assist adolescents and young adults with a serious mental health disorder to acquire the skills and resources they need to make a healthy transition to adulthood. After this plan has been submitted and evaluated by SAMHSA, States may then compete for a second round of grants to help them implement the plan that they have made.
Lastly, this bill will develop a Committee of Federal Partners that will coordinate service programs that assist adolescents and young adults with mental illness at the federal level and provide technical assistance to States as they implement their plans. They also will report to Congress on their activities so that we can ensure they are doing their best to make sure these vulnerable young adults get the help and support they need.
This is such a critical time in a person's life and I look forward to continuing to work with my colleagues to make sure it is as healthy and positive an experience as it can be. I look forward to working with my colleagues to ensure its passage. I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to support the bill.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the bill be printed in the Record.
I thank the gentleman for yielding. Madam Speaker, everybody in this Chamber knows the right political vote on this package. The easy thing to do is vote ``no'' and hope the bill passes. Every Member…
I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Madam Speaker, everybody in this Chamber knows the right political vote on this package. The easy thing to do is vote ``no'' and hope the bill passes. Every Member knows there is no political upside to supporting this legislation.
It's also easy to say that something must be done--but something else. Well, we all have our own preferred
plans, Madam Speaker. The only problem is none of them get 218 votes.
I know my colleagues on both sides of the aisle are struggling to do the right thing. Lyndon Johnson used to say, ``Doing the right thing isn't hard; knowing the right thing to do is.'' This is certainly one of those occasions, Madam Speaker. But I am convinced unless we act, the stock market will take a nose dive, economic activity will freeze, credit markets will dry up, people will lose their jobs.
The real question is: Are we willing to gamble the jobs, the life savings, the retirement accounts, the homes and the businesses of the people we represent? Are we willing to risk the global, political, and social turmoil that will come if we have a prolonged recession or depression in the United States? Frankly, Madam Speaker, I am not.
Madam Speaker, everyone in this room knows the right ``political'' vote on this package. The easy thing to do is to vote no and hope the bill passes. Every member knows there is no political upside in supporting this bill.
It is also easy to say, ``something must be done--but not this.'' We all have our own schemes. Certainly I have my own five-point ``Tom Cole plan.'' I would suspend mark-to-market accounting rules, purchase preferred stock in institutions to protect the taxpayer, institute a private insurance program, limit executive compensation in companies that get Federal help, and raise the FDIC insured bank deposits from $100,000 to $250,000. There is only one problem with my plan, Madam Speaker, it cannot get 218 votes in this Chamber.
Madam Speaker, I know that my colleagues on both sides of this issue want to do ``the right thing.'' However, as Lyndon Johnson used to say, ``doing the right thing isn't hard, knowing the right thing to do is.'' I have struggled over whether passing this bill is the right thing to do. I do know that if it fails the stock market will take a nose dive, credit will freeze up and economic activity will grind to a halt. Some believe in time the markets will stabilize and correct themselves. I hope they are right.
The real question is are we willing to gamble the jobs, life savings, retirement accounts, the homes and the businesses of the people we represent? And are we willing to risk the global political and social turmoil that will surely occur if there is a severe and prolonged recession or depression in the United States? Frankly, Madam Speaker, I am not.
Madam Speaker, I am from Oklahoma, a state that has had more than its share of economic hardship over the years. My grandparents and parents lived through the Great Depression. They dealt with the hard times at home and the wars abroad that it spawned. My family and I lived through the 1980s when a banking and real estate collapse devastated Oklahoma's economy. I saw my State's per capita income fall from 98 percent to 79 percent of the national average. I saw hundreds of banks close, thousands of businesses fail, and countless families lose their life's savings. I do not intend to let that happen again for the sake of political popularity, ideological purity, or legislative perfection.
Madam Speaker, passing this bill is no substitute for long to structural reforms, appropriate legislative oversight, and the establishment of suitable levels of accountability and transparency in our financial markets. Those are issues we must confront in the next Congress. However, inaction in the face of the current turmoil in the markets is not an acceptable option. In fact, it is a huge gamble.
Madam Speaker, I know I will be haunted by this vote for the rest of my political life. I know I will have to explain it again and again to my friends. And I will be forced to defend it in every election against my opponents. And I know, having made this vote, I will have to make other tough votes to reform our economic and political systems. However that is far better than the lost jobs, the foreclosed homes, the depleted savings, the broken businesses, the devastated lives, and the dangerous world that I believe will be the consequences of a failure to act.
Madam Speaker, I will vote for this bill not because I wish to, but because I have to for the good of the people I represent. I trust that each of my colleagues will cast their vote in the same spirit, and I truly believe they will. There are no good choices here--but positive action is the right choice.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of S. 3197. I am pleased that we are finally about to provide this benefit to our veterans, but I am troubled that it has taken us so long to do so. On April 14,…
Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of S. 3197.
I am pleased that we are finally about to provide this benefit to our veterans, but I am troubled that it has taken us so long to do so. On April 14, 2005, the House considered S. 256, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, which was a much-needed and very responsible reform. Then in the minority, my colleague Ms. Schakowsky introduced a motion to recommit so that the bill would allow a targeted exemption from our stricter means test for those National Guard and Reservists who had been called up after 9/11.
At the time of the floor debate, I was told by the Republican floor manager that the Schakowsky motion was redundant, that there was already such protection for our National Guard and Reservists under the Servicemembers Civil Relief Act. Because of this, I voted against the motion, and it failed on a party-line vote, 200 yeas to 229 nays.
I soon found out, however, that I and other Republican Members had been misinformed, apparently to prevent the then-minority from having any legislative success. When I found out there was no adequate protection for our returning Reservists and Guardsmen, I pledged to work with my colleague, Ms. Schakowsky, to make it right.
Subsequently, I introduced legislation to amend the bankruptcy law. This measure, of course, isn't costing any--well, maybe it costs a few, but probably not any Federal dollars--new Federal dollars. There is no big spending involved in this. There is no massive appropriation needed. All it is is a consideration for these people who have risked their lives for us and are coming home. But my party couldn't get itself to provide consideration for our homecoming heroes, even though there wasn't a major cost involved. Thus my legislation didn't ever get to the floor.
In the meantime, party control of the House changed, and Ms. Schakowsky and I have been working diligently to get this legislation to the floor and get it passed into law. The Senate passed the bill by unanimous consent on Tuesday, and we are now considering this bill under suspension, which means it's pretty well recognized that this has widespread support, and it should have been voted on and accepted a long time ago.
S. 3197, introduced by Senator Durbin in the Senate, has bettered the bill in several ways. Often, it will take several months for a servicemember to gain an understanding of his or her financial situation after returning home. So this bill expands the time of eligibility to a year and a half after the servicemember has been released from active duty.
And because more information is needed, this bill requires the Comptroller General to study and report to Congress on the number of Reservists in the Armed Forces and National Guard members who will be using this exemption and the number of servicemembers who are substantially or materially involved in bankruptcy cases because of their service.
I encourage my colleagues who voted ``no'' on the motion to recommit 3 years ago to vote in favor of this legislation today. This bill is not a wedge to reopen the bankruptcy rules. Rather, it is a narrow, targeted change modeled after existing exemptions for disabled veterans who are America's heroes. This is targeted at those American heroes throughout our country who are called up for deployment and are now returning home.
This bill will ensure that America's heroes throughout our country, who have often been called up for deployment, and these deployments have been far longer than they ever initially thought they would ever be called up for, this bill is intended that they will not pay a high personal cost for their absence and their willingness to step forward and defend our country.
As my colleague, Ms. Schakowsky, put it, these servicemembers have put their lives and livelihood on the line for us, and we owe them a great debt. This is one way that we can show our deep appreciation for the service that these people have given to us, protecting our families and the service they've provided our country.
Now is the time for us to repay that debt in a very bipartisan way, which should have been in play on this floor in this House all along; and when it wasn't 3 years ago, Ms. Schakowsky and I have finally made up for that bit of partisanship at the expense of our homecoming heroes that happened over 3 years ago.
So, today, I ask my colleagues to join Ms. Schakowsky and myself. I thank all of those involved who helped us along the way, and I ask my colleagues to support this measure.
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Madam Speaker, there's much not to like in this bill and there's a lot to be angry about how we got here, and if this passes, our job will not be done. We will have further efforts that will be…
Madam Speaker, there's much not to like in this bill and there's a lot to be angry about how we got here, and if this passes, our job will not be done. We will have further efforts that will be required, especially to stabilize the housing market.
I chair the California Democratic Delegation. I want to share with Members the communications we have received from California's Governor and the Treasurer of the State of California.
The Governor tells us, and this is a quote, ``It is daunting that California, the eighth largest economy in the world, cannot obtain financing in the normal course of its business to bridge our annual lag between expenditures and revenues. This means that California may soon be forced to delay payments for critical services, such as teachers, law enforcement, and nursing homes. The same thing would happen to California cities and counties.''
Our Treasurer, Bill Lockyer, has told us, ``For 10 days, State and local governments have been closed out of credit markets--long-term and short-term--in spite of the fact they represent no default risk and provide a good tax return to investors.'' He says, ``Without prompt Federal action to address the economic crisis, we may have no market access. That means the State's cash reserves will be exhausted near the end of October. Payments for teachers' salaries, nursing homes, law enforcement, and every other State-funded service would stop or be significantly delayed. California's 5,000 cities, counties, school districts, and special districts would face the same fate.''
There is a $7 billion revenue anticipation note that the State needs to float to meet cash flow needs, and they cannot sell those revenue anticipation notes because of the credit freeze.
Folks, what this means is that the State of California, the eighth largest economy in the world, will not be able to meet payroll by the end of this month unless we take action to unfreeze these credit markets. I wanted to make sure that every Californian and, really, every American knew.
State Capitol,
Sacramento, CA, October 2, 2008.
Hon. Henry M. Paulson, Jr.
Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, DC.
Dear Mr. Secretary, First of all, let me commend you for
your leadership to enact emergency economic stabilization
legislation. This credit crisis has the power to grind the
U.S. economy to a halt if swift and decisive action is not
taken immediately. The federal rescue package is not a
bailout of Wall Street tycoons--it is a lifeboat for millions
of Americans whose life savings, businesses, retirement plans
and jobs are at stake. I have communicated this message to
the entire California Congressional delegation and will
continue to press for passage of an emergency rescue plan.
Like many other states, California is feeling the enormous
effects of this crisis on our economy. California's economy
is dynamic and resilient, but also uniquely sensitive to
national and international economic conditions and
fluctuations in the financial markets. The credit crisis has
frozen investment and commerce, forcing businesses and
families to stop purchasing goods and services. This has
resulted in tens of thousands of lost jobs and billions of
dollars in lost tax revenue to the state.
Most immediately, California and a number of other state
and local governments are experiencing the lack of liquidity
in the credit markets firsthand. Many states and local
governments have been unable to secure financing for bond
offerings and for routine cash flow used to make critical
payments to schools, local governments and law enforcement.
While some states may be able to absorb a delay or obtain
high-interest financing through private banks, California is
so large that our short-term cash flow needs exceed the
entire budget of some states. We expect to issue $7 billion
in Revenue Anticipation Notes for short term cash flow
purposes in a matter of days.
Absent a clear resolution to this financial crisis that
restores confidence and liquidity to the credit markets,
California and other states may be unable to obtain the
necessary level of financing to maintain government
operations and may be forced to turn to the Federal Treasury
for short-term financing.
The economic fallout from this national credit crisis
continues to drain state tax coffers, making it even more
difficult to weather the continuation of frozen credit
markets for any length of time. I will continue to do all I
can to encourage passage of the emergency rescue plan.
Sincerely,
Arnold Schwarzenegger,
Governor.
Mr. President, I am pleased to introduce today, along with my colleague from the House, Rep. Rahm Emanuel, an important and noncontroversial bill designed to increase the percentage of eligible…
Mr. President, I am pleased to introduce today, along with my colleague from the House, Rep. Rahm Emanuel, an important and noncontroversial bill designed to increase the percentage of eligible families that claim the Earned Income Tax Credit, or EITC, every year.
The bill is endorsed by the Service Employees International Union, SEIU, Wal-Mart, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, the Citizens for Tax Justice, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, Corporate Voices for Working Families, the College and University Professional Association for Human Resources, TJ Maxx, Kindred Healthcare, and Cintas.
Even in these tough economic times, Wal-Mart is still the nation's top private employer, and they place a huge emphasis on keeping their business costs low. If they are taking such a lead role on this bill, it should send a strong signal to the business community and to Republicans that it is a good idea and that the cost burden on business is next to nothing.
The EITC is a hugely important and popular program for working families. Started under President Ford after President Nixon advanced a similar program, and expanded under virtually every President since, the EITC sends a message that if you work hard and play by the rules, you shouldn't live in poverty.
I know the program isn't perfect, but it's the best tax tool we have for helping working families make ends meet. Combined with the recent increase in the minimum wage that Democrats pushed through the Congress, the EITC is improving the lives of million of families.
For tax year 2006, more than $44 billion in benefits were distributed to more than 22.4 million American families. That shows what a success the program is.
As one of the most populous states, with millions of working families of modest means, the numbers for New York State by itself are impressive. In 2006, nearly 1.5 million New York families took advantage of the EITC, claiming $2.8 billion in benefits. That's an average of $1,867 per family. But if the estimates from the Government Accountability Office are right and 25 percent of eligible families do not file for the credit, that's almost 500,000 families in my state who are missing out.
At an average EITC benefit of nearly $1,900, that means that more than $900 million could be going back into the pockets of New Yorkers-- without a single change in the law--if we could find a way to reach these families. It could represent a second stimulus package for 500,000 working families as large as the one we passed earlier this year--and all eligible families have to do is ask for it.
With gasoline costing over $4 a gallon, and health care and tuition costs on the rise, if we can get an average of $1,900 into the pockets of 500,000 New York families, or 7.5 million people nationally--that's an opportunity we can't pass up.
Since these families are eligible for the credit under current law, it's not a policy that has to be scored or ``paid for'' under the PAYGO rules, because current law assumes these benefits will be paid. I can't imagine anyone objecting to this bill.
The Emanuel/Schumer legislation simply requires that employers notify their workers of their potential eligibility for the EITC when they send out the annual W-2 wage notice. To satisfy the notice requirement, employers would provide either a copy of IRS Notice 797, which explains how one qualifies for the EITC, or a separate written notice that is described in the language of the bill.
For those that might be concerned about the cost to business, our bill exempts firms with less than 25 employees.
This is a bill that is such common-sense, and represents such little cost to business, and offers such a large potential benefit to so many families, that it's something that we ought to be able to pass unanimously before the end of the year.
Rep. Emanuel and I sent a letter to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson today about the bill. Even though the Bush Administration is nearing its end, the goals of this legislation could be accomplished via regulation or executive order, and I urge the Administration to take such action and render the bill moot. Rep. Emanuel and I would be happy not to have to pass this bill. Otherwise, we will push it and hope to pass it with broad bipartisan support by year's end. With unions and major employers both supporting the bill, there really should be no objection.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the text of the bill and a letter of support be printed in the Record.
I thank the gentleman for yielding to me and for his support on this legislation. I rise to proudly support S. 3197, the National Guard and Reservists Debt Relief Act. This legislation is the Senate…
I thank the gentleman for yielding to me and for his support on this legislation.
I rise to proudly support S. 3197, the National Guard and Reservists Debt Relief Act. This legislation is the Senate companion to H.R. 4044, legislation that I authored, along with my friend and colleague, Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, which passed the House unanimously on June 23. S. 3197 was introduced by my very good friend and colleague from Illinois, Senator Dick Durbin.
Since 9/11, more than 460,000 Reservists and Guardsmen have been called to active duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. These men and women have left their families and their jobs to selflessly serve their country, often with little or no notice to get their finances in order. Many servicemembers are small business owners who have to put their businesses on hold while they serve their country, and some are forced to sacrifice those businesses altogether. And, of course, some may face losing their homes when they return because of their financial distress.
Many servicemembers face unexpected extended tours of 15 months or longer, leaving them with almost no way to prepare financially.
S. 3197 would simply allow National Guard and Reservists to file for bankruptcy without the burden of the means test that assesses their eligibility for bankruptcy protection. H.R. 4044 allows members of the National Guard and Reservists to file for chapter
7 bankruptcy without the added paperwork burden and obstacles of the means test.
This is why: when veterans face the means test, it has a particularly adverse impact on them. That is because the combat pay of soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan is often higher than their salaries at home, and they have fewer expenses overseas, if any. The problem is when they return home, these individuals return to face lower incomes and higher expenses, and because the means test factors in a person's income and expenses for the 6-month period preceding the bankruptcy filing, a veteran's income is artificially inflated and their expenses seem disproportionately low. As a result, they risk failing the means test and facing chapter 11 or 13.
This bill is narrowly drafted to apply to servicemembers who have served in the Armed Forces for more than 90 days since 9/11 and would grant them an exemption from the test for up to a year and a half after they return home. The legislation also requires a GAO report that will help us quantify the hardships our veterans face when they return home by tracking how many apply for bankruptcy protection.
With unemployment at the highest levels in 7 years and the credit crisis and recession squeezing the budgets of families across the country, we must give these returning heroes any relief we can. Eighteen percent of veterans recently back from tours of duty are unemployed. Twenty-five percent of those who have been able to find work earn less than $22,000 a year. There are currently 1,500 veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan who are homeless. And thousands of veterans return from the war with physical and mental injuries which make returning to work difficult or impossible. We should all be outraged at those statistics.
Simply put, the men and women who have risked their lives to protect us deserve protection from us in return. These selfless individuals should not face harsh bankruptcy procedure if they are in financial distress when they return home. When the changes to the bankruptcy law were made in 2005, Congress exempted disabled veterans from the means test. It is time to include the Guard and Reserves as well.
The legislation that we're considering once again today is virtually identical to the one we passed unanimously, with minor, five-word, technical, clarifying corrections added during consideration in the Senate Judiciary Committee; and like H.R. 4044, the bill passed the Senate with unanimous support. I urge its support in the House once again today so we can send it to the President for his signature.
I'd like to thank Chairman Conyers, again, for working with me to pass this legislation, as well as Subcommittee Chairwoman Linda Sanchez for her commitment to this bill. And I want to thank the staff on both sides of the aisle who helped, particularly my legislative director, Daniel Penchina. And, again, I thank my colleague, Congressman Rohrabacher, who has been a formidable and effective partner in moving this legislation through the House this year.
Mr. Chairman, thank you for all of the work that you have done. I'm angered, frustrated, and sad, but I believe that we've got to do the responsible thing. Therefore, I'm going to support the bill.…
Mr. Chairman, thank you for all of the work that you have done. I'm angered, frustrated, and sad, but I believe that we've got to do the responsible thing. Therefore, I'm going to support the bill.
Madam Speaker, today, I find myself frustrated, angry and sad. Predatory lending and
greed are at the root of the current financial storm our Nation is facing. I voted against the bailout bill on Monday because I believe it did not do enough to provide direct relief to families that are facing foreclosure, and have been victimized by these practices.
Over the past few days, I have fought vigorously to include stronger foreclosure mitigation provisions in a revised bill. Many of my colleagues joined me in an effort to include language from my bill H.R. 4135, The Family Foreclosure Rescue Corporation Act, in any revised rescue plan. This language would keep more families in their homes.
While I believe today's bill still does not do enough to protect struggling homeowners, I am pleased that it does include critical improvements in the areas of oversight and accountability. This bill does a better job of protecting America's taxpayers, and ensuring their investment is not squandered.
But sadly, our economy is now in turmoil. We find ourselves in a state of quicksand, and we are sinking fast. We cannot delay action any longer. I will vote for this bill today. Not because it solves all our problems, but because I do not have a choice.
If the credit crunch is allowed to continue, the consequences for the Inland Empire will be disastrous. In my district, too many families are facing the possibility of being homeless. Credit unions and big banks have limited their lending, and as a result families are at a greater risk of losing their homes, their jobs and their opportunities for success.
Car loans have dried up, and some dealerships have closed and been forced to layoff workers. Student loan companies across the Nation have shut down or stopped participating in Federal student aid programs.
And now, to make matters worse, we have received word that California needs a $7 billion emergency loan from the Government, in order to keep funding day-to-day operations. The consequences of doing nothing are too dire to imagine.
Without immediate Federal action, California will be unable to sell voter-approved bonds for highway construction, schools, housing or water projects. And because of the extreme delay in passing the state budget, California's cash reserves would be exhausted by the end of October without this loan. This means that payments for teachers' salaries, nursing homes, law enforcement and every other State-funded service would stop or be significantly delayed. This must not be allowed to happen.
Ultimately, today's bill is about providing confidence in our markets and stabilizing our economy. We must do this if we are to protect our jobs at home, stop further outsourcing, and ensure our society has access to the credit it needs to run.
The market dropped on Monday because of a lack of confidence. Because of predatory lending and the complete lack of regulation we have seen from the Bush administration in the last 8 years, Wall Street has been allowed to run amok--and because of that the American people have suffered.
I am voting for this bill today to restore that confidence. But we must come back and work on a more comprehensive package that will provide the assistance America's working families need to survive in these difficult economic times. I have received a commitment from the House Financial Services Committee that hearings will be held next February to examine my bill, the Family Foreclosure Rescue Corporation, and move it forward in the legislative process.
The Bush administration and the rubber stamp Republicans in Congress are responsible for the lack of leadership and effective government oversight that caused this crisis, but we all must work together to get America back on track. I am confident that with a change of leadership, we will stabilize our Nation's financial markets and keep America's working families safe and secure.
Madam Speaker, I rise today in support of S. 3197, the ``National Guard and Reservists Debt Relief Act of 2008.'' This bill is important because it liberalizes the debt relief standard for those…
Madam Speaker, I rise today in support of S. 3197, the ``National Guard and Reservists Debt Relief Act of 2008.'' This bill is important because it liberalizes the debt relief standard for those persons who are most deserving, our nation's heroes that serve in the National Guard.
This bill is important because the President has made it more difficult for people to claim bankruptcy. Specifically, the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005 (2005 Bankruptcy Act) was signed into law by President George W. Bush on April 20, 2005. The 2005 Bankruptcy Act is the most comprehensive overhaul of bankruptcy law in more than 25 years. The 2005 Bankruptcy Act makes particular changes to the consumer bankruptcy. The changes to consumer bankruptcy included, among other things, the establishment of a means testing mechanism to determine a debtor's ability to repay debts. Under this test, a chapter 7 bankruptcy case is presumed to be an abuse if it appears that the debtor has income in excess of certain thresholds.
S. 3197 would exempt certain qualifying reserve component members of the Armed Services and National Guard members from the means test's presumption of abuse. This bill responds to the fact that some who serve in the National Guard and the Reserves encounter financial difficulties and that they should not be subject to the additional proof requirements of the means test.
Members of the armed services, National Guard, and reservists find themselves in a precarious economic situation. Before they are deployed they have stable employment and they expect a set amount of money. However, deployment brings with it change in livelihood and lifestyle. When a spouse is deployed, the spouse that remains behind must now work, find baby sitters, and are subject to a myriad of life-altering financial changes. Sometimes houses have to be sold and deployment can cause all sorts of financial hardships. Simply put, the armed services, National Guard, and reservists should not be penalized.
I cosponsored the House version of this bill H.R. 4044, and I urge my colleagues to support it. This bill makes sense because often armed services personnel and reservists receive high compensation when they are away on hazardous tours or combat zones. However, when these individuals return, their income is not as high. Therefore, it is unfair to subject these individuals to the means test. Simply, the means test is whether the person has the means to pay his or her debts. Hazard pay and temporary high pay for combat work is not necessarily a good indicator of person's means or ability to pay. These individuals are serving our country and have legitimate financial concerns. I do not believe that they should be penalized. I believe we should help our armed services personnel for giving so much to fight for and protect this country. The least we can do is help them.
I firmly believe that we should celebrate our National Guard and reservists, and I remain committed, as a Member of Congress, to ensuring that we demonstrate our respect for them. The National Guard and reservists have kept their promise to serve our Nation; they have willingly risked their lives to protect the country we all love.
As the great British leader Winston Churchill famously stated, ``Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.''
We must always remember the debt that we owe our National Guard and reservists that are willing to lie down their lives for us and render the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom and security. Our gratitude must continue to be unwavering.
In the words of President John F. Kennedy, ``As we express our gratitude, we must never forget that the highest appreciation is not to utter words, but to live by them.'' It is not simply enough to sing the praises of our Nation's great veterans; I firmly believe that we must demonstrate by our actions how proud we are of our American heroes.
I urge my colleagues to support this bill.
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Barrett). Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Cole). Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to…
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Barrett).
Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Cole).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to gentleman from Texas (Mr. Hensarling).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlelady from Illinois (Mrs. Biggert).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Garrett).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Gary G. Miller).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. Shays).
Madam Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Pence).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Wisconsin (Mr. Ryan).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. LaTourette).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Barton), who is ranking member of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
(Mr. BARTON of Texas asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Madam Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from Colorado (Mrs. Musgrave).
I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
Madam Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Paul).
(Mr. PAUL asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Madam Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from California (Mr. Daniel E. Lungren).
Madam Speaker, I yield myself 2 minutes.
Madam Speaker, ladies and gentlemen of the House, Thomas Paine on December 23, 1776, said, ``These are times that try men's souls.''
What was a problem at one time on Wall Street has become a problem for Main Street. What was a problem for this Congress and financial experts has become a problem for America.
As late as last night, Mr. LaTourette, Mr. Latham, and I were at the Rules Committee for 2\1/2\ minutes urging the Rules Committee to only appropriate $250 billion, an enormous amount; yet they turned down our request. I want to thank my Republican colleagues on the Rules Committee for voting ``yes.''
Our amendment said we would come back in November and we would give careful consideration to this. And if we needed more, if the program was working--and believe you me, it's been announced that it won't start for another 15 days whether we pass this bill today or tomorrow or the day after. And we could have all judged by then how it was working.
But that's past. And today is today. And I will be voting today for this bill because it's about the pensioner and his retirement check, it's about the small businessman and his ability to buy materials or make a payroll, and it's about that student, either in school or having to leave school, or that student preparing for school.
Whatever the problem was before, however you disagree with certain parts of this bill, our only choice is ``yes'' or ``no.'' And when a problem becomes an American problem, and it is, then it is time for Congress to take decisive action.
I will be voting ``yes'' on this bill; not a perfect bill, but a bill that I am not willing to pass up because I'm not willing to risk capitalism and a decline into socialism if our financial markets and our economy collapses.
Madam Speaker, I am proud at this time to yield 1 minute to my friend from Mississippi (Mr. Pickering), who will express not only his views but mine.
Madam Speaker, if we had approved the legislation on Monday, we would not have been able to pass the tax extenders package, which includes business and energy tax extenders. The AMT patch, we all…
Madam Speaker, if we had approved the legislation on Monday, we would not have been able to pass the tax extenders package, which includes business and energy tax extenders. The AMT patch, we all worked hard on that across the aisle, whether you wanted to pay for it or not was the debate, and the additional disaster assistance as well as mental health parity. I think these are important.
Alexander Hamilton, my idol, was very clear that there are immutable principles of moral obligation. Monday I voted ``no,'' and I know that the enemy of the good is the perfect. But since Monday we have improved certain parts of the bill. And there is some junk in this bill. There are no two ways about it. But that is not unique on this bill.
So to help the American people, I am now supporting today's financial package. And it's really the McCrery-Rangel team that got me to this point.
You guys have worked closely together. You are a good model and example for what we should be doing.
I pray that I'm doing the right thing. I believe so in my heart. God bless this country. We will prevail.
Madam Speaker, the legislation we have before us today arises at a vital time when Americans are suffering under a rapidly failing financial market and collapsing housing market.
My ``no'' vote on Monday was among one of the most difficult votes I have had to cast in my 12 years as a Member of Congress.
My goal in Congress has always been to fight for the best interest of ordinary Americans--to fight for the American worker, the American small business owner, the people who make up the heart and soul of our nation.
I thought of them when I voted ``no'' on Monday because that bill fell short of helping those people who are suffering the most from this financial crisis.
Today, I stand before you far from assured that this legislation is a s good as it can be but understanding that we cannot stand back and allow our financial markets, credit markets, housing market, pension plans, and small businesses to collapse under the weight of the errors made by Wall Street.
Lead by Speaker Pelosi and Chairman Frank we have taken an inadequate 2\1/2\ page proposal and developed a more substantial bipartisan piece of legislation which we present today.
I support the addition of the increase to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, FDIC. It is exactly the type of bottomup, community approach we need to put liquidity back in to Wall Street.
Furthermore, if we had approved the bill on Monday we would not have been able to pass this tax extenders package that includes business and energy tax extenders, an AMT patch, additional disaster assistance as well as mental health parity.
I am certainly disappointed that these provisions are not paid for but it would be unconscionable to allow the American people to suffer without this tax relief.
Today's bill is not perfect but we have done what we needed to do for the American people. In truth if you gave every Member of Congress a chance to draft a proposal to address this crisis we would have 435 bills in front of us today--the enemy of the good is the perfect.
Since Monday we have improved this bill to help the American people and therefore I am supporting today's financial rescue package. I urge all my colleagues from both sides of the aisle to vote ``yes'' on Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the Senate bill (S. 3197) to amend title 11, United States Code, to exempt for a limited period, from the application of the means-test presumption…
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and pass the Senate bill (S. 3197) to amend title 11, United States Code, to exempt for a limited period, from the application of the means-test presumption of abuse under chapter 7, qualifying members of reserve components of the Armed Forces and members of the National Guard who, after September 11, 2001, are called to active duty or to perform a homeland defense activity for not less than 90 days.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on S. 3197.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The consumer bankruptcy overhaul signed into law 3 years ago adds a means test that presumes a debtor is abusing the law if he or she has income that exceeds a modest threshold, and thereby forces the debtor into a multiyear repayment plan.
This bill, S. 3197, excepts qualifying National Guard and Reserve members from that presumption of abuse. We have the gentlewoman from Illinois (Ms. Schakowsky) to thank for this.
With half a million members of the National Guard and Reserve called to Iraq and Afghanistan since 9/11, many serving multiple tours of duty, the financial toll on their families has been severe.
It's estimated that up to 26 percent of National Guard members deployed experience money problems as a direct result. And so the measure before us makes an exception-to-the-means test presumption of abuse for National Guard and Reserve members who serve 90 days since September 11, 2001, and for a year and a half after they leave service. I'm heartened to know that we now have the opportunity to provide this modest but important relief to these brave men and women in the service.
I also commend Ranking Member Lamar Smith of Texas who has helped make this a bipartisan endeavor.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to recognize the Chair of the California delegation, Zoe Lofgren, for as much time as she needs.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the author of this bill, Jan Schakowsky, who is a sterling member of the Energy and Commerce Committee, as much time as she may consume.
Mr. Speaker, how much time remains?
I yield now 7 minutes to the distinguished gentleman from Ohio, a Member not always heard on the floor, Dennis Kucinich.
Will the gentleman yield to me briefly?
We keep saying that the gentleman from Utah is on the floor for the last time, but the last time always becomes one more time.
I want him specifically remembered for the cooperation and leadership he gave in the committee and on the floor in terms of broadband legislation, the credit card interchange consideration, the very complex issues of immigration, on literally all of the civil liberties issues that have come before us, and Internet gambling. He's given us his attention and helpfulness. We appreciate it so very, very much, Chris.
I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 15 seconds to the gentleman from Ohio.
Mr. Speaker, I yield the balance of my time to the gentleman from Indianapolis, Indiana, Mr. Andre Carson.
Madam Speaker, I rise to say I absolutely support free market principles. I have no interest in bailing out Wall Street. I think that we need to reduce the size of government, and I believe that…
Madam Speaker, I rise to say I absolutely support free market principles. I have no interest in bailing out Wall Street. I think that we need to reduce the size of government, and I believe that government intervention should not occur.
But this is not a normal situation. I have not seen anything like this. I wasn't around during the Great Depression, but having read about it, I have not seen anything like this in our financial services industry since then.
Banks are not lending to banks, and if banks don't lend to banks, the access to credit in the private sector really is going to dry up, because if they won't lend to each other, they are not going to want to lend to the private sector.
Small businesses in this country are starting to hurt now. I spoke to a friend I have known for over 30 years who is a contractor who works for a very large company, and the company doesn't know right now, the employees, that many are going to get laid off, because their lines of credit have been dramatically reduced, and without credit in this country, it is going to have an impact on businesses, and if businesses are impacted, they are not the bad people, they are the ones who provide jobs in this country.
This bill, I will say, is not perfect, but there are not many options we have today, and the last thing we can afford to do is do nothing and let the system start to crumble.
Small people, I say ``small'' because they are not business people, they are trying to work for a living, and I take the word ``small'' back, average people out there who are just working for a living and trying to make ends meet, supporting their families and paying their bills, they are the ones that are going to get hurt. This is not to bail out a bunch of fat cats on Wall Street. The people who made their money two or three years ago, they made their money. You can't impact that. We can change things in the future to change the law to make sure people are protected and their investments are protected and people don't take advantage of the system, and that has to happen.
Now, this bill has grown in size, but much of it has to do with tax extenders. It is not pork. When you are talking about allowing child tax credits to continue, like we have in the past, the alternative minimum tax patch to continue, research and development tax credit, teacher expense deductions, those things have been added to this bill and the bill has absolutely grown in size.
But let's not lose the focus on what we are trying to do here today. The thing we are trying to do is stabilize the economy, not bail out individual businesses; make sure the economy can continue to run, people can work and businesses can operate. That is why I am rising in support of this bill and ask for an ``aye'' vote.
Madam Speaker, I rise in favor of the Senate amendments. I rise in support of the bailout proposal before us, and I do not voice my support without some trepidation. However, I feel that the state of…
Madam Speaker, I rise in favor of the Senate amendments.
I rise in support of the bailout proposal before us, and I do not voice my support without some trepidation. However, I feel that the state of our economy is such that we have no logical and prudent choice except to act and to do so now.
Like many people across America, I am not happy about using public money to benefit the robber barons on Wall Street. Therefore, I am pleased to see the high level of independent oversight contained in this package. I know that many people are saying that there is no real help for home owners, for people facing foreclosure, and for those who have already lost their homes and/or their life savings. Therefore, I am pleased to note that this package provides for loan modifications which state concretely that when:
1. The government owns the entire loan.
2. The Secretary of the Treasury and other agencies [FDIC, Federal Reserve, FHFA, GSE's] must:
A. coordinate efforts to gain ownership and control.
B. create a Government-wide plan to maximize loan modifications.
I. Government has a partial interest
The Secretary must:
1. Work with services to modify loans under Hope for Homeowners programs now strengthened to: (a) Allow homeowners to refinance before reset, (b) provide flexibility on
loan-to value-ration, and (c) speed up waivers for second mortgage holders.
2. The Secretary must also fund support to services to ensure the ability to do loan modifications, i.e., loans to cover capital advances.
II. Government has no ownership interest
1. Will offer loan guarantees to induce mortgage holders to make substantial loan modifications.
2. Applies to loans that may not be eligible for other Government refinancing programs.
III. Tenant Protections
1. The Secretary where permissible shall permit bona-fide tenants current in their rent to remain in their homes.
2. The interagency plan for maximizing loan modifications must include protecting Federal, State, and local rental subsidies and ensuring that any loan must take into account the need for operating subsidies.
Madam Speaker, I know that there has been and continues to be a great deal of talk about sweeteners. Well I use Equal, and I am ecstatic to note that in this package, serious consideration is being given to the concept of mental health parity.
If there is a sweetener which would have influenced my position and my vote, this is it. No, this is not a perfect bill and I am sure that some people on Wall Street will benefit; but I do believe that more people on Main Street will feel safer and more secure that their investments are being protected, that their homes and insurance policies will be saved and their children's futures will be more secure. I vote ``yes.''
Madam Speaker, I thank the chairman for yielding me this time and for his tireless work. I want to thank Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr., for associating himself with my remarks this morning. Madam…
Madam Speaker, I thank the chairman for yielding me this time and for his tireless work.
I want to thank Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr., for associating himself with my remarks this morning.
Madam Speaker, I think we need to be honest about the bill before us. It is a bailout. We should be honest with how we got here: reckless deregulation policies and greed. We should be honest about the fact that we don't know that this is the appropriate economic strategy. Some economists say yes; some economists say no. But I must be honest about the fact that I can't afford to risk the consequences of inaction based on what I know today.
I spoke with our California treasurer this week, and he assured me that people will suffer greater pain, including cuts to critical State- funded social services, county services, and schools, if we don't do something to stop this hemorrhaging. That is why I will vote for this bill today.
As a former small business owner, I know access to credit will make or break your business. Without it, people will lose jobs. We will not magically turn the economy around, reverse the rise in unemployment, or end this recession which we are in now. We must be honest about that.
But I must err on the side of caution so our seniors can have some confidence that their pensions are safe. And I hope that we will be able to prevent this financial crisis from exacting an even bigger toll on the everyday lives of our constituents.
Congressman Jackson and I will continue to fight for regulatory reform and a direct economic stimulus package that we fought to be included in this bill. We must have bankruptcy reform and a moratorium on foreclosures. But I am glad to say that our fight has helped slow this bill down. Thanks to our Speaker's leadership, we have a bill today to extend unemployment compensation insurance on the floor. That is the least we can do for those in need on Main Street. I urge the other body to take it up immediately.
As Senator Obama said, there will be a time to punish those who set this fire, but now is the moment for us to come together and put the fire out. Congressman Jackson and I join him in that effort and we will vote for this flawed but necessary legislation. It is a very difficult vote for both of us, but I must do everything I can to stop this bleeding in the lives of people living from paycheck to paycheck, that is if they have a paycheck.
I am really confident that this is the right vote, but I know that it is not the popular vote. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have to thank Congresswoman Maxine Waters for her leadership in trying to make some sense out of this foreclosure mess. Hopefully we will stop the bleeding, but I know that we have a lot of work to do.
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S.3197
One Hundred Tenth Congress
of the
United States of America
AT THE SECOND SESSION
Begun and held at the City of Washington on Thursday,
the third day of January, two thousand and eight
An Act
A bill to amend title 11, United States Code, to exempt for a limited
period, from the application of the means-test presumption of abuse
under chapter 7, qualifying members of reserve components of the Armed
Forces and members of the National Guard who, after September 11, 2001,
are called to active duty or to perform a homeland defense activity for
not less than 90 days.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the ``National Guard and Reservists Debt
Relief Act of 2008''.
SEC. 2. AMENDMENTS.
Section 707(b)(2)(D) of title 11, United States Code, is amended--
(1) in clauses (i) and (ii)--
(A) by indenting the left margin of such clauses 2 ems to
the right, and
(B) by redesignating such clauses as subclauses (I) and
(II), respectively,
(2) by striking ``testing, if the debtor is a disabled
veteran'' and inserting the following:
``testing--
``(i) if the debtor is a disabled veteran'',
(3) by striking the period at the end and inserting ``; or'',
and
(4) by adding at the end the following:
``(ii) with respect to the debtor, while the debtor is--
``(I) on, and during the 540-day period beginning
immediately after the debtor is released from, a period of
active duty (as defined in section 101(d)(1) of title 10) of
not less than 90 days; or
``(II) performing, and during the 540-day period beginning
immediately after the debtor is no longer performing, a
homeland defense activity (as defined in section 901(1) of
title 32) performed for a period of not less than 90 days;
if after September 11, 2001, the debtor while a member of a reserve
component of the Armed Forces or a member of the National Guard,
was called to such active duty or performed such homeland defense
activity.''.
SEC. 3. GAO STUDY.
(a) Comptroller General Study.--Not later than 2 years after the
effective date of this Act, the Comptroller General shall complete and
transmit to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the
President pro tempore of the Senate, a study of the use and the effects
of the provisions of law amended (and as amended) by this Act. Such
study shall address, at a minimum--
(1) whether and to what degree members of reserve components of
the Armed Forces and members of the National Guard avail themselves
of the benefits of such provisions,
(2) whether and to what degree such members are debtors in
cases under title 11 of the United States Code that are
substantially related to service that qualifies such members for
the benefits of such provisions,
(3) whether and to what degree such members are debtors in
cases under such title that are materially related to such service,
and
(4) the effects that the use by such members of section
707(b)(2)(D) of such title, as amended by this Act, has on the
bankruptcy system, creditors, and the debt-incurrence practices of
such members.
(b) Factors.--For purposes of subsection (a)--
(1) a case shall be considered to be substantially related to
the service of a member of a reserve component of the Armed Forces
or a member of the National Guard that qualifies such member for
the benefits of the provisions of law amended (and as amended) by
this Act if more than 33 percent of the aggregate amount of the
debts in such case is incurred as a direct or indirect result of
such service,
(2) a case shall be considered to be materially related to the
service of a member of a reserve component of the Armed Forces or a
member of the National Guard that qualifies such member for the
benefits of such provisions if more than 10 percent of the
aggregate amount of the debts in such case is incurred as a direct
or indirect result of such service, and
(3) the term ``effects'' means--
(A) with respect to the bankruptcy system and creditors--
(i) the number of cases under title 11 of the United
States Code in which members of reserve components of the
Armed Forces and members of the National Guard avail
themselves of the benefits of such provisions,
(ii) the aggregate amount of debt in such cases,
(iii) the aggregate amount of debt of such members
discharged in cases under chapter 7 of such title,
(iv) the aggregate amount of debt of such members in
cases under chapter 7 of such title as of the time such
cases are converted to cases under chapter 13 of such
title,
(v) the amount of resources expended by the bankruptcy
courts and by the bankruptcy trustees, stated separately,
in cases under title 11 of the United States Code in which
such members avail themselves of the benefits of such
provisions, and
(vi) whether and to what extent there is any indicia of
abuse or potential abuse of such provisions, and
(B) with respect to debt-incurrence practices--
(i) any increase in the average levels of debt incurred
by such members before, during, or after such service,
(ii) any indicia of changes in debt-incurrence
practices adopted by such members in anticipation of
benefitting from such provisions in any potential case
under such title; and
(iii) any indicia of abuse or potential abuse of such
provisions reflected in the debt-incurrence of such
members.
SEC. 4. EFFECTIVE DATE; APPLICATION OF AMENDMENTS.
(a) Effective Date.--Except as provided in subsection (b), this Act
and the amendments made by this Act shall take effect 60 days after the
date of enactment of this Act.
(b) Application of Amendments.--The amendments made by this Act
shall apply only with respect to cases commenced under title 11 of the
United States Code in the 3-year period beginning on the effective date
of this Act.
Speaker of the House of Representatives.
Vice President of the United States and
President of the Senate.