Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time. Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume. So let's talk about the navigator…
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
So let's talk about the navigator program. They enroll less than 1 percent today, less than 1 percent.
Wall Street Journal reported an investigation that one grantee took in $200,000 to enroll a grand total of 1 person; and they found the top 10 most expensive navigators collected 2.77 million taxpayer dollars, 2.77, Mr. Chairman.
Do you know how many people they signed up? 314.
They want to add $25 million more on top of the $62,500,000 in grants. We are talking about less than 1 percent.
Meanwhile, while they are talking about oh, we have got to educate people about all their options, then they put a gag rule in here that says, can't talk to you about short-term duration plans. Oh, no, we can't educate about that choice. No, you can't know about that. No, we are going to stop that. Oh, and you can't know about association health plan options either. It might be better for you and your family and actually be more affordable. No, no, no, because that is not our Federal decision here. They decide, and they don't want you to even know. So navigators can't talk about those things. That is gagged in this law.
The amazing thing we never hear about is the good work of the Trump administration and the economy as it has taken off. And I say that in the context that we have seen the lowest unemployment rates for virtually every American and group of Americans; whether it is African Americans, Hispanic Americans, you name it, we are seeing, the lowest rates, in some cases, since they began keeping track of unemployment.
So the economy is doing really well. Over 3 percent GDP growth the first quarter.
So what has that meant for insurance?
We have heard the constant, unrelenting attacks; you might as well use impeachment here at some point probably today.
Look, the number of Americans in employer health coverage has increased by more than 2.5 million since President Trump took office. Two-and-one-half million more Americans aren't having to get their healthcare through the government and taxpayers. They are getting it through a job and their employer.
In fact, today, there is a greater percentage of Americans in employer health coverage since Trump took office than any time since 2000, any time since 2000.
See, there is another way to provide healthcare and that is through a job.
Now, I know those who support a full Federal takeover of everybody's health insurance don't like to hear that because, see, they don't think that employers should offer health insurance. They think only the government knows best. And so their Medicare for All plan, which would cause great delays in access to care, drive up costs, you would pay more; but it would take away your health insurance. If you get it from your employer, or if you get it from your union, or if you are a senior on Medicare and you have a Medicare advantage policy, that goes away too. Veterans with TRICARE? Democrats' Medicare for All program, that is gone, too.
It is kind of ironic to talk about how wonderful the Affordable Care Act is working for Americans, who, by the way, tell me: ``Look, I am getting stuck with the highest deductibles and premiums I have ever seen. I can't afford it.''
We had an example from Grand Island, Nebraska, last week. A 60-year- old couple makes $70,000 a year. They were paying $38,000 in premiums and $11,000 in deductibles.
That is affordable insurance? I don't think so.
That is why we think States should have the ability to experiment and regulate plans at the State level, as they did under ObamaCare.
All that talk about junk plans and all that, by the way, those were approved under ObamaCare. Those were allowed under ObamaCare. Trump just allowed them to be there longer. But because he changed something, there is this automatic partisan response.
I think we all ought to come together here. I have fought my entire legislative career in Oregon and here to make healthcare more affordable.
The underlying drug bills, there is no light between us, none, between Republicans and Democrats. Those bills came out of committee unanimously.
The only reason we are having this fight on the floor today is because somewhere along the way, the political operatives, Mr. Chairman, decided to bolt these two unrelated sets of bills together. They knew it would be kind of a poison pill and kind of fun to watch Republicans squirm on the floor. That is why we are here.
The ObamaCare bills we are voting on today just dump more money into programs that investigations have shown are filled with fraud and abuse. How can you justify putting another $25 million into a program where the top 10 most expensive navigators collected $2.77 million and signed up a grand total of 314 people? Who in their right mind in private business, Mr. Chairman, would make that kind of investment?
The Las Vegas Review-Journal said, after reading that, ``The navigator scheme is a make-work government jobs program rife with corruption and highly susceptible to scam artists.''
Mr. Chairman, my time has expired. I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chair, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Carter), America's only pharmacist in the U.S. House of Representatives and a distinguished gentleman from the Energy and Commerce Committee.
Mr. Chair, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the comments of my friend from Georgia, a distinguished member of the Energy and Commerce Committee.
We really have come to rely upon Mr. Carter for his guidance, especially on areas related to pharmacies and trying to get the costs of prescription drugs down for consumers. We are all about that.
We worked together in the last Congress to empower the FDA to get more generics to market sooner so we have more competition. That was a bipartisan bill.
That is the way we operated in the last Congress, Mr. Chairman, as Republicans and Democrats. I led the committee, and we revamped everything at the FDA in generics, on medical device approvals, and on pharmaceuticals so we could benefit the patient first.
We brought those bills to the floor unanimously. We didn't mess around with them and package them up with poison pills. We said: Let's go legislate, and let's get this done. And they did. They got done. They got into law, signed by President Trump.
And guess what? Last year, the FDA approved more generics in one year than at any time in its history. So we did do things, led by Republicans in the House, the Republican leader of the Senate, and President Trump, joining with Democrats, just as we have attempted to do on the drug bills before us today.
We are in full agreement. Stop the bad behaviors, get competition into the market, and bring down costs of drugs. But we also believe we should make sure Americans have choices that are
more affordable when it comes to their insurance.
Democrats voted for ObamaCare. They blocked every amendment we had as Republicans at the time that was legislated. Remember, the former Speaker, now Speaker again, said you have to pass it so you can find out what is in it. It is kind of an odd way to legislate, but, anyway, here we are.
By the way, the short-term plans they call junk plans on that side, Mr. Chairman, those short-term plans are the same ones we are debating today, except all President Trump did is say you can have them a little longer, because guess what? For some people, it is the only affordable health insurance they have access to in their States.
They are regulated by the States. They are not unregulated. States can do all kinds of things. We should empower them to do things to make insurance more affordable.
Unlike my friends on the other side, Mr. Chairman, they want to gag the navigators so they can't even tell them about alternatives that may actually benefit them and be more affordable.
The plans that the other side of the aisle is railing against today, Mr. Chairman, are plans that are very much like the ones that were approved under President Obama and ObamaCare. It is just that President Trump said you can have them for longer if they work for you. But the States can come in and say, no, no.
My State says just 3 months. That is it. Boom. Other States say 30 days. Some States say none at all.
Mr. Chairman, I am not going to oppose this amendment, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I seek time in opposition to the gentlewoman's amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentlewoman from Pennsylvania for her amendment. We are not going to object to the amendment. The exchanges already do a lot of this reporting, and more information is better than less.
Now, I want to talk about these short-term, State-regulated, limited duration insurance policies because I think I have got a chart here, and we
will put it in the Record that there are 27 of our States, Mr. Chairman--27--that have decided that short-term plans are good for their people to be able to take advantage of. There are States from Alaska to Wyoming, from Kansas to Iowa, to Idaho and Pennsylvania where you can go up to 364 days.
Now, there are 12 other States that have said, you know: We want to limit these to 6 months. That includes places like Colorado and Arizona and Nevada and Oklahoma, North Dakota.
Then there are eight States, Mr. Chairman, that said: No, we want 3 months. We think that is all we need in places like Oregon, Hawaii, or New Mexico.
Then there are four States--California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York--that said: No, we are just not going to allow any of these options in our State.
Guess what. That is federalism. They get that right.
Now, I know my friends on the other side of the aisle would like to take away that ability for these short-term duration, State-regulated plans and remove options from consumers, and I don't think that is the way to go. It is an honest disagreement here that we have, Mr. Chairman, between the parties.
I have seen a lot of innovation come out of my home State of Oregon. I was meeting with one of our former Governors, John Kitzhaber, this morning, talking about the effect of the coordinated care organizations, and they have been able to actually bend the cost curve and improve access to delivery of care by having the flexibility, in some cases through waivers, to bring providers together, match them up with patients, and deliver care more efficiently and more effectively and with better outcomes. That should be what we are debating today: How do we get to better outcomes?
We should also be debating how we get healthcare costs down, Mr. Chairman. We are doing a bit of that with the drug bills.
It is unfortunate. It didn't have to be this way that they got made into partisan issues, because there is no partisan divide on those bills. It is the fact that, you know, bailing out some of these programs in ObamaCare that are so expensive.
When it costs $2.40 per enrollee for agents and brokers to assist in enrollment and $767 if you spent $62.5 million in grants and they enrolled 81,000 individuals, it averages out, just a rough average, to over $700, why would we pour more money into the navigators that cost 700 bucks and then say: Oh, by the way, these agents and brokers can't do anything to keep them out of this?
The Trump administration actually expanded the authority for the agents and brokers to be involved, leveraging that private-sector help, and do you know what? They support 3,660,000 health plan enrollments. That is 42 percent of the plan enrollments in 2018 on the Federal platform exchanges--42 percent. Mr. Chairman, navigators do 1 percent. And my friends on the other side of the aisle want to keep dumping more and more money into the navigator program that, as I pointed out earlier, we found all kinds of wasteful spending in.
So there is really an issue about spending. We know the results. We know there is a much better way to do this.
So, Mr. Chairman, I am not going to oppose this particular amendment. It is fine, and more information is better than less.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I seek time in opposition to the gentleman's amendment.
Mr. Chairman, it is interesting; the prior amendment that passed added $25 million more to this navigator program. For the plan year 2017, navigators received a total of $62.5 million in grants and yet only enrolled 81,426 individuals. That is less than 1 percent of the total enrollees.
You see, the issue here isn't whether we should or shouldn't enroll more people. The issue is who is most efficient with the taxpayer or private-sector dollar to do that.
We keep pouring more and more money into this navigator program and we know there is all this, well, I guess I am going to call it waste. I don't know if it is fraud.
But holy smokes, as I have said before, one grantee, according to The Wall Street Journal, took in $200,000 and enrolled one person--one person. You want to have a Government Accountability Office report and investigation, let's look at the underlying program and how in the heck that could happen.
And then they also found the top 10 expensive navigators collected $2.77 million and signed up 314.
These aren't my numbers. These are The Wall Street Journal investigative reporters. You know, in the press, these are facts, which caused the Las Vegas Review-Journal to editorialize that: ``The navigator scheme is a make-work government jobs program rife with corruption and highly susceptible to scam artists. It's a slush fund for progressive constituent groups.''
Not my words, that is the press. I have a journalism degree. I have a great respect for the press and what they write. I don't always agree with them.
But, look, when you take these independent reviews and you look at what is happening there, CMS reported that 17 of those navigators enrolled fewer than 100 people at an average cost of $5,000 per enrollee--$5,000. $5,000. And my friends on the other side of the aisle want to shovel more money into that program. I think that is the height of fiscal irresponsibility.
See, for $2.7 million, if we put that into community health centers, Mr. Chairman, do you know how many people we could cover? We could take care of 20,000 patients, according to one estimate--20,000.
Health centers are really, really important to me and my constituents. We have 63 different places in my district, which is bigger than eight States east of the Mississippi, Mr. Chairman, where people get their healthcare in our communities. We have to reauthorize this year, by the end of September, our community health centers.
Now, when I was chairman, we did that at a record level because they deliver record good healthcare. We have had no plan yet to figure out how to pay for that, but you are going dump $25 million more into this navigator program. Why don't we put it into actual healthcare?
We reauthorized the Children's Health Insurance Program under Republicans and fully funded it for a decade. The longest that had ever been done was 5 years, and, unfortunately, most of my friends on the other side of the aisle voted repeatedly against doing that for a whole host of reasons, but they voted ``no.'' In Oregon, we have 122,700 children and expectant moms that rely on CHIP, SCHIP, partnership with the State for their health insurance.
So there are a lot of things we can invest in with the proceeds from the savings from the drug bills, but investing in the navigator program? $5,000 per enrollee?
There are 100 navigators, that is all they did? One for 200,000, enrolled one person? I mean, come on. There has got to be a better way to not spend the taxpayers' money than that.
And so I think you look at the incredible growth in men and women working in America, getting better paying jobs, bigger paychecks and healthcare, 2.5 million since President Trump took office, and Republicans put progrowth policies into the Tax Code, progrowth regulatory policies into the bureaucracy.
Jobs are coming up. The biggest issue I run into with employers now is not overregulation; it is: Where do I find more people to work?
So we need to look at job training. We need to work at available workforce. But this, this amendment, I think, is, frankly, from my perspective--with all due respect, GAO doesn't need to waste their time on this nor the taxpayer's money, and especially after $25 million more was just signed up in addition to--what?--$63 million, roughly, an enormous amount of money into a program that I think has a lot of problems. And the editorial writers at the Review-Journal said, ``highly susceptible to scam artists,'' ``slush fund for progressive constituent groups.'' So I oppose the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.