Madam President, let me say how thankful I am that Senator Dodd has worked with us to get my amendment to a vote. I know how hard he has been working on this bill and how precious floor time is during this debate. Last week I proposed an…
Madam President, let me say how thankful I am that Senator Dodd has worked with us to get my amendment to a vote. I know how hard he has been working on this bill and how precious floor time is during this debate.
Last week I proposed an amendment with Senator Schumer and Senator Bill Nelson to reform our Nation's credit rating industry. Today I am thrilled to announce that Senators Grassley, Kaufman, Durbin, Harkin, Klobuchar, Levin, Wyden, and Begich have joined as cosponsors. Senator Grassley, of course, is the ranking member of the Finance Committee and a senior member of the Budget Committee. Senator Levin led the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations which revealed some of the credit rating industry's worst abuses. Senator Kaufman has also been a leading critic of the rating agencies, pointing out how these agencies kept AAA ratings ``rolling off the assembly,'' despite consistent and increasing indications that they were totally unwarranted. Senators Durbin, Harkin, and Klobuchar have long established themselves as strong voices on behalf of consumers.
Over 20 of my colleagues have now cosponsored my amendment, including senior members of the Senate Finance and Banking Committees. Since I have filed this amendment, I have come to the floor several times to explain the different aspects of it. Now that this amendment will be up for a vote, I wish to step back and summarize. To underscore the scope of this problem, I want to explain how this amendment is a simple investor-based solution to the problem. Here it is in a nutshell.
There is a staggering conflict of interest affecting the credit rating industry. The way it works now, issuers of securities are paying for the credit ratings. They shop around for their ratings, selecting those agencies that tend to offer them the best ratings and threatening to stay away from rating agencies that are too tough on them. Because of this, the credit rating agencies are issuing ratings that are orders of magnitude higher than they should be. We know this from the record. We know from the PSI release of e-mails that this was the case. This conflict of interest has cost American investors and pensioners billions of dollars because supposedly risk-free investments have failed or been downgraded to junk status.
My amendment will correct that conflict of interest by having an independent third party assign the credit rating agency that conducts the initial rating for newly issued complex financial problems. My amendment puts investors in charge, not the government.
Let's take this from the top. Right now, when a bank issues a product, it gets a credit rating--it gets a couple credit ratings before they will sell their product. But the problem is, they don't get their rating from an independent agency. They don't get it from someone who has a real interest in being accurate. Rather, issuing banks currently get their credit ratings from rating agencies they hire, and they pay them upwards of $1 million per transaction.
Now, you do not have to be Adam Smith to guess what has happened. As with any other financial transaction, the issuers--the buyers of credit ratings--shopped around for ratings. When they would go to a credit rating agency, and the credit rating agency did not give them the rating they wanted, they would not hire them the next time. So the credit rating agencies responded in kind. They changed their algorithms for rating the products when the ratings they produced were too low, and, thus, they repeatedly overrated terrible securities.
This is not a hypothetical. The Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, Senator Levin's committee, uncovered pages upon pages of e-mails confirming this is exactly what happens. But I think the numbers explain it the best, and we know this. Of all the subprime mortgage-backed securities issued in 2006 and 2007 that received a AAA rating, over 90 percent have since been downgraded to junk status.
Credit rating agencies will counter that the downgrading of AAA bonds to junk status occurred because of the unpredictable collapse of the housing market. Two points here: The e-mails that were released in the investigation by the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations showed that the credit rating agency knew what was happening. Here is an e- mail from 2006. This is from one of the Standard & Poor's executives:
[T]his is like another banking crisis potentially looming!!
There was an executive who said they wished they could go public with the loss figures they were seeing--this is in 2006--but that ``may be too much of a powder keg.'' And there are e-mails where they were saying: We better increase the ratings so we keep getting business.
These were the guys who got it. Admittedly, there were guys who did not get it in the credit rating agencies. But there is an old Upton Sinclair quote, which is: You can't get a man to understand something that his salary depends on him not understanding.
So there is this inherent conflict of interest, which is, if I give a good rating to these subprime mortgage-backed securities, I am going to make a lot of money; there is a lot of money here; my salary depends on my not getting what is happening. That all emanates from the conflict of interest. That is what I am going after. That is why they either ignored what they were seeing in 2006, or, if they got it, they did not say anything about it. So some were maybe less than completely getting it, and others who got it were corrupt. It was all for the same reason: because of this conflict of interest.
These downgrades did not just result in major losses to Wall Street. They resulted in multibillion-dollar losses to millions of Americans, especially pension holders. CalPERS, which 1\1/2\ million Californians rely on for their pensions and health benefits, lost $1 billion. Pensioners in Ohio lost $\1/2\ billion. The same story is repeated all across the country.
This was people's retirement money. This was not people buying yachts. This was not people staying a night at the Waldorf. This was their retirement money. So this was the problem, the conflict of interest.
Let me tell you how our amendment addresses this problem. My amendment would call for a new clearinghouse, regulated by the SEC, to assign issuers to a credit rating agency that will give them their first rating on complex financial products. They would be assigned. That means an issuer will no longer be able to shop around for a rating. They will not be able to pressure a rating agency into giving a good score in exchange for future business. Over time, the clearinghouse will monitor the ratings these agencies give out and refine its method of assignments. It can reward agencies that are more accurate and give fewer assignments to those that are less accurate. It will incentivize accuracy. Imagine that. In doing so, it will give smaller agencies a chance to get into the action.
Standard & Poor's and Moody's and Fitch do about, what, 94 percent of the business. The other agencies will get a chance because what will be rewarded is accuracy.
By making these simple changes--and it is a very simple change; it is a third party--the amendment will eliminate the fundamental conflict of interest at the core--at the core--of this problem.
Some people are going to tell you this is a government takeover of the credit rating industry. That is patently, 100 percent false. The clearinghouse will not issue a single rating. The clearinghouse is not going to tell credit rating agencies how to determine their ratings. In fact, every single rating an agency gives after being assigned a security will have a disclaimer that says, ``This is not a government- approved rating.''
Moreover, the clearinghouse will be run by investors such as managers of pension funds and managers of university endowments. OK. There is not a single seat on this board that would be reserved for a government official. Moreover, while the initial board members are to be named by the SEC, after the initial appointments, the board itself will choose its future members. There will be a representative from the rating agencies, there will be a representative from the banks, but a majority will be investors. This makes sense. We will be putting people in charge who are the people who are actually buying the securities, and who pay the price when the securities prove to be significantly overrated.
So let me repeat that. We are putting the buyers of securities--not the government--in charge. OK.
The clearinghouse will be an independent, self-regulatory organization that operates with oversight from the SEC, just like the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority or FINRA.
Finally, this board will not act as an intermediary for every credit rating issued. It will only assign an agency to do the initial rating-- the first rating an issuer receives. The issuer is then free to seek as many other credit ratings as it wants from whomever it wants, as most issuers currently do.
I am merely proposing that at least one rating--the initial rating-- from an issuer be free from the conflicts of interest inherent in an issuer-pays system. This initial rating will then serve as a check against any possible inflation in subsequent ratings.
You may also have heard there are alternative proposals that would eliminate any requirement of reliance upon a credit rating issued by an NRSRO. Senator LeMieux, my good colleague from Florida, will be offering a side-by-side to this amendment. Now, my only problem with this is, this approach ignores the reality that ratings will, by necessity, continue and will always play a role in our economy. Investors will still rely on them even if the statutes do not mandate it.
I believe Senator LeMieux's approach does absolutely nothing to tackle the conflicts of interest or address the current oligopoly, both of which would surely persist under this approach, especially the conflicts of interest.
There is nothing in Senator LeMieux's approach that I understand is contradictory at all to what I am doing. So if a Member would like to vote for Senator LeMieux's side-by-side, it would be fine. You have to determine for yourself the value of that. I am just saying it does not get at the heart of the matter, which is the conflict of interest: the issuer actually paying the rating agency for the rating.
With the help of Senators Schumer and Nelson, I have crafted a measure that is not liberal or conservative. It is not moderate. It is not on any spectrum. It just makes sense. It is common sense. This is like the solving of forum shopping in courts. It is an elegant solution. I can say that because I did not think of it. Some professors in academia thought of it, and I guess the chief economist at Patton Boggs. It is just a simple, elegant idea. So it is not conservative; it is not liberal. It is just common sense.
That is why Senator Wicker has embraced this amendment. Senator Grassley has embraced this amendment. It is just plain common sense. That is why Senators Levin, Johnson, Murray, Durbin, Whitehouse, Brown, Merkley, Bingaman, Lautenberg, Shaheen, Casey, Sanders, Kaufman, Harkin, Klobuchar, Wyden, and Begich also support the amendment.
That is why Americans for Financial Reform support it. That is why the Consumers Union supports it; the Teamsters, the National Association of Consumer Advocates, Public Citizen, SEIU, and a number of other national organizations stand behind this amendment.
That is why, as I said, leading economists in academia and private industry support this amendment. In fact, as I was saying, the chief economist at Patton Boggs, Dr. David Raboy, who first developed a similar proposal, is squarely behind this amendment. Of course he would be; he developed it.
That is why independent, smaller rating agencies have come out in support of this amendment. That is why this amendment cannot wait.
I urge colleagues on both sides of the aisle to vote in favor of this amendment.
I thank you, Madam President.
I believe my good colleague from Florida has a side-by-side which, as I say, in no way conflicts--I do not believe--with this amendment. I yield the floor.