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Mr. President, first I wish to thank my colleague from Arizona for not just his remarks during the last few minutes but for his service here. I think everyone on our side knows the Senator from Arizona has strongly felt views, many times…
Mr. President, first I wish to thank my colleague from Arizona for not just his remarks during the last few minutes but for his service here. I think everyone on our side knows the Senator from Arizona has strongly felt views, many times different than many of ours, but that they are sincere, they are heartfelt, they are honorable, and that they are not ``political,'' and I very much appreciate that.
Let me say a few things, though, about these rules changes. The overwhelming fact that hovers over this Chamber is that it is broken. Nobody disagrees with that. The Senate is broken. This great, wonderful institution that has had such a legendary history--perhaps the greatest legislative body the world has ever seen--is dysfunctional. None of us disputes that. We have to start from there. How do we change it so it is no longer dysfunctional?
My colleague the Republican leader says, Well, it is personalities or it is character or whatever. That explanation doesn't wash. The amount of good character in this body is probably no different--no more, no less--than the amount of good character in previous Senates that were far more functional. I would argue that good character is pretty high. By and large, we respect our colleagues as individuals and as Senators on both sides of the aisle and across the aisle. So it is an easy way out to say, Change character. I guess when one says ``change character,'' they mean change their character. The bottom line is that the Senate is broken and we cannot maintain the status quo.
I wish to quote my great colleague from Michigan Senator Stabenow--I hope she won't mind--from a meeting we had this morning. She talked about a constituent she had who said, When are you going to change the rules? The constituent said, You sound like somebody who has suffered from spousal
abuse and keeps suffering from it and suffering from it and suffering from it and says they can't change it. Of course that person can change it and of course we can change things.
What we are trying to do on this side is come up with some changes that will make the Senate flow better but, at the same time, preserve the essential character of the Senate. If we were to propose a rules change that would say we need 51 votes for everything, we would be no more, no less, than the House of Representatives. There are some on our side, frankly--I think my colleague from Iowa at one point--who have argued, Let's move the number down to 55. We are not doing that. The rules changes we are entertaining are done with preserving the character of the Senate and making sure an individual Senator's rights are protected and that the rights of the minority are protected and the place is not stampeded by majority votes. In the House, they can have a majority of one and still pretty much get their way. In the Senate that wouldn't happen, even if we had 55 or 58 or even 60 Senators with the changes we have proposed.
So let's look at them. There have been attempts to not change the rules but, rather, to sort of come to some degree of comity between the parties. I know because under Leader Reid's direction, I was involved, and under Senator McConnell's direction, Senator Alexander was involved. Two years ago, when there was an attempt to do rules changes, it was particularly Senator Alexander, for whom I have enormous respect in the same way I have respect for Senator Kyl, who proposed that instead of changing the rules we try to work things out better. There is a basic rule here in the Senate which is that the majority gets to propose the agenda. That is an enormous privilege and an enormous advantage. We get to set the agenda in the committees and on the floor. But the minority has the right to offer amendments which either poke holes in what we have proposed or even talk about other subjects because we don't have a rule, as they do in the House, where just about everything has to be germane. So Senator Alexander and I attempted to do that. We said, on the one hand Republicans will not block motions to proceed, and let us go forward and debate bills, and on the other hand we would allow a reasonable amount of amendments--germane and some not germane--to the bills that came up.
Well, obviously, it failed early on in the Senate. The basic gentleman's agreement didn't work. It is our view the agreement fell apart when our colleagues on the other side of the aisle said they will not allow the President's nominee for the CFPB, the Consumer Financial Protection Board, to move forward. She will now join us in the Senate and discuss rules changes, in one of the ways that history works in strange ways now. So we said we would allow some amendments. They said, No, we are not letting her come up, period. That was against the spirit, at least, of the agreement. I am sure if my colleague from Tennessee were here, he might have a different interpretation, but at least that is ours. But the overall point is the so-called gentleman's agreement fell apart early in the Senate, never to be resurrected.
It is our belief on our side that we should allow amendments from the other side, but they should not be abused. There should not be 50 of them. They should not talk about everything under the Sun. Yes, there can be some nongermane amendments--we understand what those are all about--but it shouldn't be a piling on. It is our view, frankly, that the goal of many of the other side was simply to obstruct whatever happened here, to show that the government didn't work, in hopes that there would be an electoral advantage to that argument and people would change the Senate majority. Well, it didn't happen. So now there is a new opportunity.
Our colleagues on the other side say the only reason we filibuster is because you guys fill the tree. Well, let's look at the numbers. In the last Senate--in this Senate up until now--there have been 19 tree fillings by Leader Reid. There have been 110 cloture motions. That is 6 to 1, a little less than 6 to 1, more than 5 to 1, less than 6 to 1. So, clearly, the filibuster--the use of the motion to proceed to prevent us from getting on a bill unless it has 60 votes--has far exceeded the number of times the leader has filled the tree. It has been done on things that aren't even amendable, including judges, appointments. There couldn't be objections that we wouldn't allow amendments on those things. You can't amend: Let's have half the judge be nominated to the sixth circuit or let's have the Assistant Secretary of State only have these powers. That doesn't happen. So even on those things, there have been filibusters. We asked right now--I think there are about 20 judges pending--to move them. No, we are going to filibuster. Yesterday, a sportsmen's bill, which has a lot of dissension on our side and probably has more agreement on the other side than this side, was filibustered. This goes on and on and on.
So the rules changes we are proposing will not prevent the minority from exercising its rights, from being able to offer amendments, and, in fact, from filibustering. The goal here is simple: Use the filibuster sparingly, not 110 times in a session of Congress. Even in the days of the great southern barons and the civil rights debates where the people from the South regarded filibuster as their only weapon to stop something they strongly--in my opinion very wrongly-- disagreed with, it was used a handful of times only on the major debates of the time. Now the filibuster is used for everything, including district court judges, offering small, minor amendments.
What we basically want to do, as some have proposed, led by the Senator from Oregon, Mr. Merkley, and the Senator from New Mexico, Mr. Udall, is say, If a Member wants to have a filibuster, they have to talk; they can't just have one person get up and say ``I object'' and then we need 60 votes or the bill doesn't come up. What will that do? In my opinion, that restores the proper balance to the Senate. If a Member has to talk--not just one person but everybody who is against it--a Member is only going to be able to sustain that filibuster on major issues. No doubt the other side would have had the ability to sustain--even if we went 24 hours, 7 days a week--they would have enough passion and enough enthusiasm and enough bodies that they would filibuster the health care bill. Probably they would do the same on Supreme Court Justices, as would we if we were in the minority, if we vehemently disagreed with a proposal. But if a Member has to be on the floor and actually filibuster as opposed to just invoking the rules, they will use it sparingly because they cannot sustain it for every amendment or every minor bill or, frankly, for bills that have a large amount of support. We know there is a small number of our colleagues who are much more focused on offering their own amendments or stopping the whole Senate. We can name them from the other side of the aisle. But under this rule, they would have to get more support than just four or five people to do it over and over, and it wouldn't happen. So then the filibuster would be used as it should be. We are not saying no to filibustering. We are not suggesting going back to 51 and simple majority rule. It would be used on major issues where there is a real division and a lot of passion and strong feeling and conviction as opposed to simply trying to block everything and tie this place in a knot.
When filibusters would decline and there would be no motions to proceed that would be debatable, what would happen? I guarantee my colleagues on the other side of the aisle that more amendments would be allowed to be offered because we wouldn't be in this tit-for-tat situation. Would we have unlimited amendments? No. Would it be that every time we have a bill we have to debate a passion of a single Senator from a single State over and over and over? No. But would there be plenty of amendments and would the minority not being able to filibuster most bills have sort of high ground, whomever that minority is, that amendments should be offered? Absolutely.
The bottom line: We cannot do nothing. There is too much at stake in our Nation to have the Senate paralyzed once again. The House is a partisan body. It passes a lot of things in a very partisan way. The Senate must still be the cooling saucer envisioned by the Founding Fathers, by George Washington and James Madison. There must
be the ability where the ``passions of the people'' cool in this government, and it resides in the Senate. The changes we have proposed continue that tradition but prevent--mitigate strongly against, if not totally prevent--paralysis, which is where we are right now.
Remember: 110 cloture motions. And that will happen again in the next session, the next Congress, in the Senate, if we don't do something to change it. The idea, once again, of just blaming this person or that person is not seeing the larger problem that needs change and correction. The proposals that I believe this side will make--and we haven't yet discussed them in our caucus--will return the Senate to the way it was envisioned by the Founding Fathers: a body where minority rights have much greater strength than the majority, but a body where bipartisan compromise is encouraged, not discouraged.
So to my colleague from Arizona I say: We are open to suggestions, but suggestions that say ``you just change your ways'' we would say back aren't going to reduce the gridlock. I believe Senator Alexander and I and Senator McConnell and Senator Reid, when we proposed this gentlemen's compromise 2 years ago and didn't change the rules, all had the best of intentions, but it failed. We have our reason for why it failed and they may have another, but it is indisputable that it failed. We have to look at something new. I hope my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, if they don't agree with the proposals we are likely to make, will have their own suggestions but suggestions that go beyond just change the personalities, change the individuals, whatever.
In conclusion, this is a wonderful body. I have served in it for 14 years. I respect it, I revere it, and I still love, with all the dysfunction, coming to work Monday morning, which is a test for me in life. But our country has so many issues and so many problems and needs the Senate to lead and needs a Senate that is not paralyzed in gridlock. Without changing the rules, I fear we will have a repeat of the last 2 years, where each side blames the other and nothing gets done.
With that, I yield the floor. I know we have several colleagues on the Senate floor who want to speak.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.