Mr. President, I was recently approached, along with my colleague Senator Shelby and leaders of the House Financial Services Committee, by the Chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Sheila Bair, with a request to increase…
Mr. President, I was recently approached, along with my colleague Senator Shelby and leaders of the House Financial Services Committee, by the Chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Sheila Bair, with a request to increase the FDIC's borrowing authority from Treasury from the current $30 billion to $100 billion, for use by the FDIC's Deposit Insurance Fund, and for temporary additional borrowing authority to weather the economic crisis.
The FDIC's Deposit Insurance Fund, DIF, absorbs losses that result from the Corporation's obligation to protect insured deposits when FDIC-insured financial institutions fail. Insured financial institutions pay premiums that support the DIF and under current law those premiums can be increased to cover any losses to the fund. At the end of the third quarter of last year, the fund held approximately $35 billion.
Legislation to substantially and permanently increase this borrowing authority has already passed the House, as part of the TARP legislation passed in January. A scaled back version of it was also incorporated into financial services legislation ordered reported by the House Financial Services Committee earlier this week. Treasury Secretary Geithner and Chairman Bernanke of the Federal Reserve Board have also recently written to me underscoring their support for this request.
Since the FDIC's borrowing authority was last increased in 1991, the asset size of banks has tripled. Even more important, the financial system is under considerable stress, and the level of thrift and bank failures has been rising. This line of credit is designed strictly to serve as a backstop to cover potential losses to the Deposit Insurance Fund.
Though this statutory borrowing authority has historically never been tapped, and Chairman Bair has made clear she does not anticipate doing so, I agree with Chairman Bair, Secretary Geithner and Chairman Bernanke that under current economic circumstances such an increase in borrowing authority is both prudent and necessary. While the current fund has substantial reserves, it is important that we increase this line of borrowing authority so that the FDIC has the funds available which might be needed to meet its obligations to protect insured depositors and to reassure the public that the government continues to stand firmly behind the FDIC's insurance guarantee.
I had intended to try to incorporate a provision to increase FDIC borrowing authority into the Economic Recovery legislation, with certain protections to
require concurrence from other federal officials--including ultimately the President--in exigent circumstances, and at least on a temporary basis. I sought to do this yesterday. Unfortunately, my Republican colleagues made clear that they would object to this proposal at this time. And, for this reason, I will not offer it today. However, I intend to work with them and those in the administration to craft a proposal that satisfies their concerns in order to ensure that the FDIC as the borrowing authority that it needs going forward.
I ask unanimous consent that copies of the letters from FDIC Chairman Bair, Treasury Secretary Geithner, and Fed Chairman Bernanke be printed in the Record. I will continue to work to ensure that the FDIC has sufficient borrowing authority going forward to deal with a wide range of contingencies.
Mr. President, I rise today to talk about an amendment, amendment No. 427, that Senators Bingaman, Isakson, and I offered to help mitigate the foreclosure crisis, which is at the root of our economic downturn. Currently, foreclosures are being filed at the rate of nearly 10,000 a day; one in six homeowners are underwater; and a recent study shows that U.S. homeowners lost a cumulative $3.3 trillion in home equity during 2008. Addressing the foreclosure crisis is key to restoring growth to the economy.
According to Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke, the most effective way to reduce foreclosures is to restore positive equity by writing down mortgage principal. In fact, the HOPE for Homeowners program requires principal write-down for participation.
Yet, under current tax law, most people who get loan modifications involving principal reductions would have to pay taxes on the amount of the loan forgiven. This is a significant barrier to people participating in effective loan modifications and a terrible burden to put on struggling families.
In 2007, the Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act provided a tax exemption for forgiven mortgage debt if that mortgage debt was used exclusively to purchase or substantially improve the home.
However, many homeowners, including a majority of subprime borrowers, did not get their current loans to buy a home. Rather, in many cases, they were steered by unscrupulous mortgage brokers into high-cost refinance loans with hidden features that they did not understand. In some cases, these funds were used to pay health care costs, educational or other expenses. Many of these borrowers are now delinquent and seeking loan modifications. Too many will end up in foreclosure.
These borrowers do not qualify for this current exemption. The threat of a large tax bill has dissuaded many homeowners from getting loan modifications.
In fact, in their 2008 Annual Report to Congress, the IRS National Taxpayer Advocate wrote ``[we] recommend that Congress pass legislation to make it easier for financially distressed taxpayers to exclude cancelled [forgiven debt] from gross income.''
This amendment, by eliminating the income tax on all forgiven mortgage debt, would remove a significant obstacle to loan modifications at a cost of $98 million over the next 10 years. This benefit would still expire, as it currently stands, at the end of 2012.
In addition, I urge the IRS to ease the burden of complying with the reporting requirements that taxpayers face when claiming this exclusion.
In its 2008 Annual Report to Congress, the IRS's Office of the National Taxpayer Advocate stated that current reporting requirements ``are so complex that many and probably most taxpayers who qualify to exclude [QPRI] from their gross income do not do so.'' QPRI or qualified principle residence indebtedness is the technical term the IRS uses for tax exempt forgiven mortgage debt. One way the IRS can ease this burden, is by allowing taxpayers claiming the exemption to calculate the fair market value based on the appraisal value of the originating loan, which should ease the tax filing burden on the millions of Americans who were tricked by predatory lenders. In addition, the IRS should simplify the reporting requirement to claim this tax exemption. Right now, taxpayers who claim the QPRI exclusion must file a form, Form 982, that is not well known, is not supported by most tax software programs or Volunteer Income Tax Assistance--VITA-- programs, and is extremely complicated. The IRS estimates that it takes the average business taxpayer 10 hours and 43 minutes to complete this form.
The goals of this amendment are both to expand the definition of QPRI to include home equity indebtedness and also to relieve taxpayers from the burden of filing any forms that they would not otherwise need to file but for receiving the benefit of the QPRI exclusion. Specifically, I urge the IRS to change Form 1099-C, used for all cancelled debts, not just mortgage debts, to include ``check boxes'' for lenders to check off when they are forgiving debt that is ``QPRI'' under the new definition. These check boxes--similar to the check box currently provided for debts discharged in bankruptcy should identify whether the taxpayer is receiving QPRI debt forgiveness and should indicate whether the taxpayer has lost their home, due to a foreclosure, short sale, or deed-in-lieu-of-foreclosure, or will continue to own the home as a result of a loan modification.
Check boxes that make clear whether the taxpayer has lost the home are important because a taxpayer should not be required to make adjustments to the tax basis of the home that they no longer live in. If the homeowner continues to live in their home and the appropriate box is checked, the Form 1099-C will provide the IRS with complete information about the basis adjustments that will be required due to the QPRI exclusion at the time of the property's sale or disposition. Thus, as in the case of bankruptcy, the Form 1099-C should provide the IRS with sufficient information so that the taxpayer will not be required to fill out a Form 982 or use the long form 1040 to claim the QPRI, and taxpayers who are exempt from filing tax returns will not have to file returns solely to claim this exclusion.
Reserving the right to object, is there some time in opposition to the amendment?
First, let me begin by thanking both of my colleagues from North Dakota and South Carolina for their interest in the subject matter.
Now, as I pointed out, 2 years ago tomorrow, I think it was, February 7, 2007, as the new chairman of the Banking Committee, I held my first hearings, and the first hearings were on the foreclosure crisis.
At that time, a fellow by the name of Eakes testified before the committee and predicted 2.2 million foreclosures in the country. He was scoffed at all across the country for having such an outrageous prediction.
In fact, the criticism was correct. It was an outrageous prediction, because it was not 2.2 million, it is now 8 million.
I see my friend from New Jersey, Bob Menendez, who was at that hearing 2 years ago today. And he predicted a tsunami, were his words-- I will never forget them--of how foreclosures were occurring in the country. And again, people laughed and ridiculed and suggested that we were somehow predicting things that were never going to happen.
We have all learned, painfully, the results. We are in the pickle we are in today because we didn't respond to the foreclosure crisis at the time. This is a major problem that deserves major attention. When we wrote the so-called TARP legislation in September, we required four things. I won't bother with the first three; they were accountability, taxpayer issues. One of the four points was to mitigate against foreclosures. We have learned, painfully over the last number of weeks, that virtually nothing was done about foreclosure mitigation with the original $350 billion tranche.
My concerns--and I appreciate immensely the effort we are finally getting some attention to this issue and looking for resources--are the following: One, I am not sure foreclosure mitigation ought to be a part of a stimulus package. You can make a case for doing something about foreclosures, but that is why we have the TARP program. It is not only the financial system. They are, of course, interrelated. It is not like there is a housing issue and a financial system at risk that are separate issues. They are the same issue, the foreclosure issue and the financial mess.
I am going to be offering shortly, along with Senators Reid and Martinez, legislation that requires that of the $310 to $350 billion in the second tranche, that $50 billion be dedicated to foreclosure mitigation because that was what the intention was originally. While I am attracted to the proposal made by Sheila Bair at FDIC--and I mention that in the amendment as one of the ideas, but there are a number of ideas. I say, respectfully, to both my good friends, Senators Graham and Conrad, as I read the amendment, it would require the adoption of the Sheila Bair approach. To me, that is worrisome because it is one idea but not the only idea, to allocate $20-some-odd billion to one idea at a time when we ought to be looking at various ideas that might actually work to mitigate foreclosures. She believes $25 billion would do 1.2. She thinks $50 would double that number to 2.2 or close to 3. We have a lot of numbers that get thrown around here.
My point is, it ought to be something we try not to congressionally mandate. We are good at a lot of things in the Congress, but when we start micromanaging ideas such as this, we get ourselves into trouble. That is why, hopefully, we have smart people out there who will consider ideas and manage them well. But up here, when you try to set accounting standards or rigidly determine a particular formulation, I get uneasy.
The amendment we will offer goes beyond foreclosure mitigation. We also clean up HOPE for Homeowners, which we all supported last summer-- almost all of us did--as a way to try and also deal with foreclosure mitigation. My concern would be that the adoption of this amendment would preclude the adoption of the second amendment. I, respectfully, suggest that what we have offered as our second amendment is a more comprehensive approach.
I have held 82 hearings. I see my friend from Kentucky, Senator Bunning, a member of the committee. We spent a lot of time over the last 2 years on these issues. We haven't all agreed every time on everything--but 82 hearings and meetings, a third of which were on this subject matter alone. I know we all respect each other for doing the jobs we try to do. But having spent this much time trying to figure out what is the best answer, it seems to me TARP resources ought to be used, stimulant money ought to be used for job creation. Not that I wouldn't like to have extra resources to deal with this. We ought to have a broad approach so we are not rigidly locked into a congressionally mandated formula.
I won't bother to address offsets. My colleagues are trying very hard to do what we all ought to do and that is to pay for various things. I will let others go down the list and whether they like or dislike the various offsets.
I ask unanimous consent for 1 additional minute.
I find myself sort of in an awkward position. I don't want to be in the position of disagreeing with trying to do something about foreclosure mitigation. But we end up doing this and the next and we get to 75 or in excess of $75 billion for this particular issue, we are getting excessive, it seems to me, without knowing whether a smaller amount might achieve the job. If we are mandating it with two provisions, then we are excluding resources that could be used for other things, including job creation, which is the debate about the stimulus package. My friend from North Dakota and I have talked about this privately, and I thank my colleagues for raising the issue. I truly have mixed emotions about this because I like what they are doing on the one hand, but I am concerned that as between the two choices-- the one Senators Martinez, Reid, and I will offer and this one--I think we offer a more comprehensive one, one that relies on greater flexibility and uses TARP money rather than stimulant money to achieve the result.
There is only in this sense. This bill has a specific requirement that a particular plan be adopted and funded with this proposal. I admire Sheila Bair's proposal, but we also recognize there are others. At the same time, if we are dealing with foreclosure mitigation but not getting that person who is probably in foreclosure because they may have lost a job, if we don't make it possible for them to get back to work because we minimize the resources in the stimulus, saving their home but not saving their job ends up with sort of a very mixed message.
Mr. President, I yield whatever time my colleague from New York would need.
Mr. President, this is, obviously, a discussion that has provoked a bit more discussion than I think any of us anticipated, and it is a worthwhile discussion. So I ask unanimous consent that there be an additional 10 minutes because I know there are several other Members who want to be heard on this amendment, and certainly my colleague from North Dakota may request some additional time as well. We may not use it all, but to give us enough time to flesh this out, if we can, I ask for 10 additional minutes.
Yes, equally divided. I do not know how much time we will need, but just to--and I will yield whatever time my colleague from New York needs. Two minutes.
Mr. President, first of all, acting now or acting later-- assuming we vote on this amendment offered by my friends from South Carolina and North Dakota, within minutes after that, I will be offering the amendment that would require that the $50 billion come out of the TARP money. I do not know what delay we are talking about.
We are promoting the same piece of legislation. The money has already been appropriated to deal TARP, so it is there. So the question is not about delaying one in favor of the other. The question is, Which pot do you want to draw from?
This is sort of a disconnect amendment. We were debating a stimulus package, I thought. Maybe we are not. I know there is some debate about that in the Chamber.
Mr. President, I yield to my colleague for a question.
Mr. President, I appreciate the remarks of my colleague. I only have 1 minute. I have not been directly involved in the Finance or Appropriations Committees, but I have listened to the debate over the last several days, and I think the debate is this: Is this bill a stimulus bill? If it is a stimulus bill, we are talking about job creation. Is it a foreclosure bill? Maybe we changed the debate. If it is a foreclosure debate, I thought I was on something else. So if we want to talk about putting people to work and simultaneously now we are going to take $23 billion out of the stimulus bill and put it in foreclosure mitigation, it seems to me this is a different debate.
I would just say to my colleagues as someone who has chairmanship with jurisdiction over TARP at this point: No, the money has not been allocated. In fact, we have the Secretary of the Treasury coming to our committee on Tuesday to describe exactly what their intentions are with the $310 billion to $350 billion, and I don't know what it is yet.
This much I will tell you. I went through all the debate and the discussion last fall with the previous administration, and we as a body said: We want you to do three or four things with that money, one of which is foreclosure mitigation. I got the commitments, all the handshakes, and not a nickel of it was spent on it. I am assuming this new crowd may be a bit different on that subject matter. But if you were to ask me whether I have a commitment that any of that $310 billion or $350 billion is going to be spent on housing, my answer is I don't know.
I have an amendment with Senator Martinez and Senator Reid in a minute that mandates that $50 billion go to foreclosure mitigation out of the TARP funds. No debate any longer, you have to do it. You know, burn me once, burn me twice--we all know the expression. So I am not going to run the risk
of watching another TARP come along and end up going to Citi and Bank of America and everyone else and nothing happening on foreclosure mitigation.
So it is a choice we have to make. We have a stimulus bill to do something about job creation. That is the debate over the last week. Many of my colleagues on the other side have raised issues about whether we are spending money to actually create jobs in the country. That is a legitimate debate. But you can't on the one hand complain about this bill because it doesn't create jobs and then offer a $24 billion amendment that doesn't do anything about jobs. It deals with foreclosure.
Now, if you are going to take $75 billion and dedicate it to a subject matter that can be handled with a lot less, that is a waste of money. So it is a matter of choices. We are bypassing each other. The debate is about stimulus.
Now, $16 billion, $17 billion of the money comes out of one fund for States. My colleagues ought to look at this. There is a lot of other spending. I am not going to pretend to understand this; I don't serve on the committee. I respect those who think some of this is unnecessary spending. But $17 billion going back to the States for job creation, I would remind my colleagues, is what they cut out of the bill if this amendment is adopted. I suspect the States all across this country may be counting on some of that for job creation, maybe not.
I ask unanimous consent for 1 additional minute.
Well, then 2 minutes.
We are going round and round on this, but I find this debate--again, I want to make the point that I am grateful to both of my colleagues for raising the issue of foreclosures in housing. I find myself somewhat at cross-purposes because, on the one hand I agree with what they are trying to do; on the other hand--I say this respectfully--I think we are undermining our cause by approaching it this way. We are diminishing the effect of the stimulus bill by doing something on housing, which is a legitimate issue but is not the subject of the debate of the underlying bill, and we are simultaneously potentially denying our opportunity to mandate that this new administration dedicate resources within the TARP to deal exactly with the underlying cause of the economic crisis.
So that is the real choice involved. Again, I say it is an awkward debate and argument. I know Senator Inouye and others wish to be heard on these appropriations issues and, particularly, I suspect the $16 billion to the States. I will let my colleagues make that case. I know Senator Inouye would like some time on that to address that issue. But that is the real point in a sense. I have listened to my colleagues say this bill is loaded up with things that don't effect job creation, and I would say, respectfully, by insisting upon foreclosure mitigation in this bill, it seems to me we are just contributing to the very arguments being made about the underlying criticism of the legislation.
I yield the floor.
I see my good friend from Arizona and my friend from Oregon. They have been patient. We debated my amendment already so I am just going to be very brief.
Senators Conrad and Graham and I were discussing the Conrad-Graham amendment. I talked about the alternative idea that I am proposing with Senator Martinez and Senator Reid of Nevada, and that is to acquire in this bill--I realize it doesn't relate to the funding in this bill--it would require that $50 billion of TARP money that will now be allocated be dedicated to foreclosure mitigation, including looking at the Sheila Baird FDIC proposal, but not exclusively so. Also, as a second part of that amendment, I suggest some alterations to the Hope For Homeowners Program that we think would make the program far more effective than it has been.
Despite the good intentions of its authors last summer, myself included, it has not produced anywhere near the results we desired. These were suggested by Treasury and others who thought it would help make it more attractive to those in foreclosure.
At the appropriate time, myself and Senators Martinez and Reid will offer this amendment. Again, I say to my good friend Senator Conrad and good friend Lindsey Graham, I respect the effort they are making. I don't think what they are talking about in the stimulus bill is justified when we can do it out of TARP, and the money that is being suggested should be more focused on stimulation and job creation.
For those reasons, I oppose the Conrad amendment. I remind my colleagues this amendment that Senator Martinez and I will be offering is the right approach for us to be taking regarding TARP funding, which was dedicated initially, at least in part, toward foreclosure mitigation. We are going to require it statutorily, lest there be any doubt in the minds of those managing the program what our congressional intention was when we passed it back late in October.
Mr. President, with that, I apologize for taking any time at all and yield the floor.