Expressing Sense Of Congress That Venezuela Should Support Strategies For Ensuring Secure Airport Facilities
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and agree to the concurrent resolution (H. Con. Res. 400) expressing the sense of Congress that the Government of Venezuela should actively support strategies for ensuring secure airport facilities…
Mr. Speaker, I move to suspend the rules and agree to the concurrent resolution (H. Con. Res. 400) expressing the sense of Congress that the Government of Venezuela should actively support strategies for ensuring secure airport facilities that meet international certifications to prevent trafficking of controlled substances, narcotics, and laundered money, as amended.
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that all Members may have 5 legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous material on the resolution under consideration.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Mack).
Mr. Speaker, before I yield to my vice chairman of the committee, Mr. Weller, let me just make a couple of points.
First of all, I have high regard for my Democrat friend from Massachusetts. He and I are friends. We have a strong disagreement on this issue.
Let me just make a couple of points.
First of all, we were told by the Venezuelan government and the DEA was told by the Venezuelan government that they were going to work to reach an agreement on this draft agreement some time ago. Then they asked for an extension to July 8. And we were going to bring this resolution to the floor some time ago, and we decided, okay, we will wait until July 8. My friend from Massachusetts and Mr. Meeks asked me to hold up on this. I think Mr. Meeks asked. I can't remember. Mr. Delahunt did. And we held the resolution until July 8. We pulled it off the calendar and held it until July 8.
July 8 came, and we were told by the DEA that they refused to sign it, and Hugo Chavez said that he was not going to give us a time frame within which he would even consider signing it. So they asked for more time, we gave them more time, and when the time came they refused to sign, it and they won't give us a date to sign it now.
Now we are not trying to embarrass the government of Venezuela, but they have done such things as accused our DEA agents, who are fighting the drug war for the people of this country, of being spies for the United States. They have done everything they can to hamper the DEA's operation down there. And there have been $100 million of cocaine that was confiscated at the Mexican airport that came from the Caracas Venezuela airport. And so we have not had any cooperation whatsoever.
I don't know much about what kind of publicity this is going to generate in Venezuela, but the fact of the matter is Mr. Chavez needs to be put on notice that the American people are not going to stand idly by and let Venezuela be a transit point for drugs into this country and killing American people.
Mr. Speaker, I will now yield to my colleague, Mr. Weller, for 2\1/2\ minutes.
Mr. Speaker, before I yield to my colleague from California, let me just take 1 minute.
First of all, when my colleague and good friend (Mr. Meeks) says that we have a delicate relationship with Venezuela, I would like to point out to him that President Chavez is in Tehran today. He is over there talking to the ayatollahs who he has invited to Venezuela. He has been buying thousands of AK-47s. He is trying to expand his military operation down there. He goes on television every Sunday for 5 hours, and he calls the President of the United States a donkey and other names.
So if you are talking about a delicate relationship being in jeopardy, let me just say the reason for the delicate relationship being in jeopardy is because Mr. Chavez is shooting off his mouth. I have met with him several times with you folks, and he always says he is going to tone down the rhetoric, and he never does.
Regarding the $100 million of cocaine that came out of Venezuela into the Mexican airport, we have talked to intelligence sources and they said there was no information coming from Venezuela about that shipment. They said that is totally false.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to my good friend from California (Mr. Royce) for 2 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, will the gentleman yield?
Mr. Speaker, in answer to your question, I do not think anything is going to accelerate this until Mr. Chavez decides what he wants to do, and Mr. Chavez was given, if the gentleman will let me finish, Mr. Chavez and you, my good friend, asked for us to give them an extension to July 8. We did that, and on July 8, they did not sign it, and they would not give us a date after that. You know that.
So what we are trying to do is point out to the United States and the Venezuelan people that they reneged on their commitment.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from California (Mr. Royce).
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I have listened to with great interest the rhetoric coming from the other side, and now I intend to get to the facts of the matter. So I hope my friend from Massachusetts will indulge me and listen to me as attentively as I have listened to him.
First of all, let me just show, we have here a map from the maritime authorities, the Joint Interagency Task Force, showing from January 1 to December 31, 2005, the number of maritime trips involving drug activity originating in Venezuela, and it is 385 times.
Suspected air activity from January 1 to December 31, 2005, again from the Joint Interagency Task Force, 137 trips involving drug trafficking originating in Venezuela.
Let me just go through some of the issues that are very, very important to this debate.
First of all, DEA agents in August 2005 were accused of being spies for the United States and not doing their job as DEA agents. The fact of the matter is that was not the case. Nobody has proven or really indicated with any degree of authority that our DEA agents are doing anything more than trying to interdict drugs coming into the United States.
We received credible reports that traffickers are paying Venezuelan airport authorities a percentage of the money and drugs transported through the Simon Bolivar International Airport. Furthermore, the government of Venezuela has not taken any steps, any at all, unilaterally to prosecute any corrupt airport officials.
There are estimates that as much as 2,000 kilograms of cocaine and 200 kilograms of heroin were seized at the Simon Bolivar International Airport over the last 12 months. There are almost estimates there are 10 times that amount of cocaine, perhaps 20 times that amount of heroin, could be smuggled through that airport.
Seizure statistics at the Simon Bolivar Airport are not produced by the Venezuelans. The Venezuelan government does not track those statistics. Information regarding any seizures at the airport were not shared by the Venezuelan government with the DEA last year.
On April 11, 2006, a commercial plane, which we talked about earlier, originating in Caracas was seized in Mexico carrying 5.6 tons, tons of cocaine with an estimated street value of $100 million. Counternarcotics experts who we consulted agreed a 5.6 ton load of cocaine is not a test run. We can only speculate how this route was exploited by traffickers previously, how many millions of dollars and hundreds of tons of cocaine came through that route. And we know, as I said, there were 137 trips on that route last year.
The Venezuelan government has claimed the interdiction in Mexico was the result of a Venezuelan tip-off. That is what they said. So we checked. We have received assurances from our intelligence sources and other intelligence sources that those claims are categorically false. The Mexican police and government found that when that plane landed. They were not tipped off by anybody in Venezuela. Quite the contrary. The belief is that the Venezuelan people who are working at the airport were involved in the transport of these drugs amounting to $100 billion.
It is widely reported that the government of Venezuela is providing safe haven and logistical support to members of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, FARC, the FARC guerrillas, which is designated as a foreign terrorist organization and was in 1997. And there is strong evidence that the Venezuelans are supporting the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, the FARC, with ammunition, safe houses, documentation, training, and weapons.
There is no formal mechanism to designate entities as drug trafficking organizations, but links between the FARC and drug trafficking were evident as far back as the mid to late 1980s, according to our State Department. It is precisely through this support for the FARC that we have estimates of as much as half of the Colombian cocaine moving to the United States and Europe as passing through Venezuela. Almost half of the cocaine coming into this country is coming through Venezuela.
You know, I have had the opportunity, with Mr. Delahunt and Mr. Meeks, to go down and meet with President Chavez in Venezuela, and at the U.N. in New York. He is a very engaging fellow. He is Clintonesque, if you will, in the way he meets people. He was very engaging. I was impressed with the fella. When we talked to him about toning down the rhetoric that would lead to a better relationship, or a relationship between Venezuela and the United States, he said he was going to do that. But he didn't.
Every week on television, for 5 hours, and I watched the tapes and I have listened to the translations, he maligns and beats up on not only the President but the Secretary of State. He says very demeaning things about Condoleezza Rice, our Secretary of State, and they are things that don't lead to any kind of a relationship between us and the Venezuelan leadership.
In addition to that, he is tied in very closely and he considers Fidel Castro, a Communist leader who wanted to revolutionize all of South America, he sent Che Guevara down there back in the 1980s to try to destroy any semblance of democracy throughout our hemisphere, and Che Guevara was killed. Now Chavez' mentor is Fidel Castro.
He is also tied in with Daniel Ortega and Mr. Morales of Bolivia, and all of these people want to move the South American continent to the left. And these are things we cannot tolerate. So the drug trafficking is only part of it.
Regarding Chavez' current trip, he is going to North Korea, he is going to Tehran, and he is meeting with what we consider the cabal of terrorists. He has also invited these people to visit him in Venezuela. In addition, as my colleague from California said a while ago, he is buying all kinds of military equipment, which really isn't necessary because there is no big threat to him down there, all kinds of military equipment to build up a huge military operation in South America and Venezuela.
We have got big problems down there. We want to talk to Mr. Chavez. We want to work with Mr. Chavez, but when we say to him we have an agreement that we have worked out, and his people hammered out the agreement with us, and he said he needed more time, until July 8, and you asked me for more time, Mr. Delahunt, we gave them more time, and when July 8 came, they would not sign the agreement nor would they give us a date certain when they would sign the agreement, and that is why this resolution is here on the floor tonight.
We want to have peace in our hemisphere. We want to work with all the presidents in our hemisphere, but we don't want revolution and we certainly don't want drugs coming through Venezuela into the United States damaging American women and children and hurting their families.
I will yield for one question, yes.
He is not going to North Korea?
He is not going to Tehran, either?
Reclaiming my time, and I just want to say this. If there is a problem that has evolved out
of this discussion tonight, it lays at the feet of Hugo Chavez. It lays at his feet. Because there was an agreement that was hammered out between his people and the DEA here in the United States. He asked for more time, we gave them more time. He wouldn't sign it nor would he give us a date certain when he would sign it.
How long do you wait? How long do you wait for drugs to continue to come into the United States before we get an agreement saying we are going to allow the DEA to do their job?
Well, I didn't yield any more time to my colleague, he just started talking. But that is okay, I have a high regard for him.
Let me just say once again that we have gone the extra mile on this agreement with Mr. Chavez. He wouldn't sign it, nor would he give us a date certain when he would sign it. We adhered to my colleague and others' requests to extend the time period, he wouldn't sign it, and that is why we have this resolution tonight.
I don't know how it is going to play in Caracas, all I can say is it is time we get an agreement, and the DEA needs to be able to do its job.
Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.