Mr. Speaker, as the ranking member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, I join with my colleagues. I want to thank the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Castro), who is a valued member of our committee, for his leadership on this critical…
Mr. Speaker, as the ranking member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, I join with my colleagues. I want to thank the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Castro), who is a valued member of our committee, for his leadership on this critical issue, and also the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Sires). I agree with everything that they have said heretofore about these draconian cuts.
I am here because I am rising to strongly reject the Trump Administration's draconian cuts to the International Affairs Budget. Now 2\1/2\ months into the Trump Administration, I find myself deeply troubled by the direction American foreign policy is heading on many fronts. I was particularly shocked when the White House released its fiscal year 2018 budget calling for a 31 percent cut to American diplomacy and development efforts.
In my view, cutting the International Affairs Budget by even a fraction of that amount would be devastating. We haven't seen many details, but a cut that drastic would surely mean that too many efforts and initiatives that do so much good would wind up on the chopping block.
Here is the bottom line: Slashing diplomacy and development puts American lives at risk. If we no longer have diplomacy and development tools to meet international challenges, what does that leave? It leaves the military.
Now, don't get me wrong. I have always supported a strong national defense, and I do support our military, and I do support giving them more money. But I also support using military force only as a measure of last resort. We should not send American servicemembers into harm's way unless we have exhausted every other option. If we are not investing in diplomacy and development, we aren't even giving these other options a chance.
We rely on diplomacy to resolve conflicts across negotiating tables at multilateral gatherings and in quiet corners so that we don't need to resolve them down the line on the battlefield. Our diplomats work to strengthen old alliances and build new bridges of friendship and shared understanding.
Just last week, the Foreign Affairs Committee held a hearing on the
Trump Administration's efforts to decimate our International Affairs Budget. In his testimony at the hearing, former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Nicholas Burns said that morale at the State Department is ``at its lowest point in my memory.''
It is deeply disturbing to hear that our diplomats, many of whom serve in dangerous places at high risk to themselves and their families, are so disheartened.
Of course it is not just former diplomats who reject these cuts. A recent letter signed by more than 120 retired generals and admirals to House and Senate leadership said: ``We urge you to ensure that resources for the International Affairs Budget keep pace with the growing global threats and opportunities we face. Now is not the time to retreat.''
Mr. Speaker, I include their letter in the Record in its entirety.
February 27, 2017.
Hon. Paul Ryan,
Speaker of the House,
House of Representatives.
Hon. Nancy Pelosi,
Minority Leader,
House of Representatives.
Hon. Mitch McConnell,
Majority Leader,
U.S. Senate.
Hon. Chuck Schumer,
Minority Leader,
U.S. Senate.
Dear Speaker Ryan, Minority Leader Pelosi, Majority Leader
McConnell, and Minority Leader Schumer: As you and your
colleagues address the federal budget for Fiscal Year 2018.
we write as retired three and four star flag and general
officers from all branches of the armed services to share our
strong conviction that elevating and strengthening diplomacy
and development alongside defense are critical to keeping
America safe.
We know from our service in uniform that many of the crises
our nation faces do not have military solutions alone--from
confronting violent extremist groups like ISIS in the Middle
East and North Africa to preventing pandemics like Ebola and
stabilizing weak and fragile states that can lead to greater
instability. There are 65 million displaced people today. the
most since World War II, with consequences including refugee
flows that are threatening America's strategic allies in
Israel, Jordan, Turkey, and Europe.
The State Department. USAID, Millennium Challenge
Corporation, Peace Corps and other development agencies are
critical to preventing conflict and reducing the need to put
our men and women in uniform in harm's way. As Secretary
James Mattis said while Commander of U.S. Central Command,
``If you don't fully fund the State Department, then I need
to buy more ammunition.'' The military will lead the fight
against terrorism on the battlefield, but it needs strong
civilian partners in the battle against the drivers of
extremism--lack of opportunity, insecurity, injustice, and
hopelessness.
We recognize that America's strategic investments in
diplomacy and development--like all of U.S. investments--must
be effective and accountable. Significant reforms have been
undertaken since 9/11, many of which have been embodied in
recent legislation in Congress with strong bipartisan
support--on human trafficking, the rights of women and girls.
trade and energy in Africa, wildlife trafficking. water. food
security. and transparency and accountability.
We urge you to ensure that resources for the International
Affairs Budget keep pace with the growing global threats and
opportunities we face. Now is not the time to retreat.
Sincerely,
1. General Keith B. Alexander, USA (Ret.), Director.
National Security Agency ('05-'14), Commander, U.S. Cyber
Command ('10-'14)
2. General John R. Allen, USMC (Ret.), Commander, NATO
International Security Force ('11-'13), Commander, U.S.
Forces-Afghanistan ('11-'13)
3. Lt. General Edward G. Anderson III, USA (Ret.), Vice
Commander, U.S. Element, North American Aerospace Defense
Command/Deputy, Commander, U.S. Northern Command ('02-'04)
4. Lt. General Thomas L. Baptiste, USAF (Ret.), Deputy
Chairman, NATO Military Committee ('04-'07)
5. Lt. General Ronald R. Blanck, USA (Ret.), Surgeon
General of the United States Army ('96-'00)
6. Lt. General H. Steven Blum, USA (Ret.), Deputy
Commander, U.S. North American Aerospace Defense Command and
U.S. Northern Command ('09-'10)
7. Lt. General Steven W. Boutelle, USA (Ret.), Chief
Information Officer and G6, United States Army ('03-'07)
8. Admiral Frank L. Bowman, USN (Ret.), Director, Naval
Nuclear Propulsion ('96-'04)
9. General Charles G. Boyd, USAF (Ret.), Deputy Commander
in Chief, U.S. European Command ('92-'95)
10. General Bryan Doug Brown, LISA (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Special Operations Command ('03-'07)
11. General Arthur E. Brown, Jr., USA (Ret.), Vice Chief of
Staff of the United States Amy ('87-'89)
12. Vice Admiral Michael Bucchi, USN (Ret.), Commander of
the United States Third Fleet ('00-'03)
13. Lt. General John H. Campbell, USAF (Ret.), Associate
Director of Central Intelligence for Military Support,
Central Intelligence Agency ('00-'03)
14. General Bruce Carlson, USAF (Ret.), Director, National
Reconnaissance Office ('09-'12)
15. General George W. Casey, Jr., USA (Ret.), Chief of
Staff of the United States Army ('07-'11)
16. Lt. General John G. Castellaw, USMC (Ret.), Deputy
Commandant for Programs and Resources ('07-'08)
17. Lt. General Dennis D. Cavin, USA (Ret.), Commander,
U.S. Army Accessions Command ('02-'04)
18. General Peter W. Chiarelli, USA (Ret.), Vice Chief of
Staff, U.S. Army ('08-'12)
19. Lt. General Daniel W. Christman, USA (Ret.),
Superintendent, United States Military Academy ('96-'01)
20. Lt. General George R. Christmas. USMC (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Staff for Manpower and Reserve Affairs ('94-'96)
21. Admiral Vern Clark, USN (Ret.), Chief of Naval
Operations ('00-'05)
22. Admiral Archie R. Clemins, USN (Ret.), Commander in
Chief, U.S. Pacific Fleet ('96-'99)
23. General Richard A. ``Dick'' Cody, USA (Ret.), Vice
Chief of Staff, United States Army ('04-'08)
24. Lt. General John B. Conaway, USAF (Ret.), Chief,
National Guard Bureau ('90-'93)
25. General James T. Conway, USMC (Ret.), Commandant, U.S.
Marine Corps ('06-'10)
26. General John D.W. Corley, USAF (Ret.), Commander, Air
Combat Command ('07-'09)
27. General Bantz J. Craddock, USA (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
European Command and NATO Supreme Allied Commander Europe
('06-'09)
28. Vice Admiral Lewis W. Crenshaw, Jr., USN (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Naval Operations for Resources, Requirements, and
Assessments ('04-'07)
29. Lt. General John ``Mark'' M. Curran, USA (Ret.), Deputy
Commanding General Futures, U.S. Army Training and Doctrine
Command ('03-'07)
30. General Terrence R. Dake, USMC (Ret.), Assistant
Commandant, U.S. Marine Corps ('98-'00)
31. Lt. General Robert R. Dierker, USAF (Ret.), Deputy
Commander, U.S. Pacific Command ('02-'04)
32. Admiral Kirkland H. Donald, USN (Ret.), Director, Naval
Nuclear Propulsion ('04-'12)
33. Lt. General James M. Dubik, USA (Ret.), Commander,
Multi National Security Transition Command and NATO Training
Mission-Iraq ('07-'08)
34. Lt. General Kenneth E. Eickmann, USAF (Ret.),
Commander, Aeronautical Systems Center, U.S. Air Force ('96-
'98)
35. Admiral William J. Fallon, USN (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Central Command ('07-'08)
36. Admiral Thomas B. Fargo, USN (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Pacific Command ('02-'05)
37. Admiral Mark P. Fitzgerald, USN (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Naval Forces Europe ('07-'10) and U.S. Naval Forces Africa
('09-'10)
38. General Ronald R. Fogleman, USAF (Ret.), Chief of Staff
of the United States Air Force ('94-'97)
39. Lt. General Benjamin C. Freakley, USA (Ret.),
Commander, U.S. Army Accessions Command ('07-'12)
40. Lt. General Robert G. Gard, Jr., USA (Ret.), President,
National Defense University ('77-'81)
41. Admiral Jonathan W. Greenert, USN (Ret.), Chief of
Naval Operations ('11-'15)
42. Lt. General Arthur J. Gregg, USA (Ret.), Army Deputy
Chief of Staff ('79-'81)
43. Lt. General Wallace C. Gregson, USMC (Ret.), Commanding
General, Marine Corps Forces Pacific and Marine Corps Forces
Central Command ('03-'05)
44. Vice Admiral Lee F. Gunn, USN (Ret.), Inspector
General, U.S. Navy ('97-'00)
45. General Michael W. Hagee, USMC (Ret.), Commandant, U.S.
Marine Corps ('O3-'06)
46. Lt. General Michael A. Hamel, USAF (Ret.), Commander,
Air Force Space and Missile Systems Center ('05-'08)
47. General John W. Handy, USAF (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Transportation Command and Commander, Air Mobility Command
('01-'05)
48. Admiral John C. Harvey, Jr., USN (Ret.), Commander,
U.S. Fleet Forces Command ('09-'12)
49. General Richard E. Hawley, USAF (Ret.), Commander, Air
Combat Command ('96-'99)
50. General Michael V. Hayden, USAF (Ret.), Director,
Central Intelligence Agency ('06-'09)
51. General Paul V. Hester, USAF (Ret.), Commander, Pacific
Air Forces. Air Component Commander for the U.S. Pacific
Command Commander ('04-'07)
52. General James T. Hill, USA (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Southern Command ('02-'04)
53. Admiral James R. Hogg. USN (Ret.), U.S. Military
Representative, NATO Military Committee ('88-'91)
54. Lt. General Walter S. Hogle Jr., USAF (Ret.),
Commander, 15th Air Force ('00-'01)
55. Lt. General Steven A. Hummer, USMC (Ret.), Deputy
Commander for Military Operations, U.S. Africa Command ('13-
'15)
56. Lt. General William E. Ingram, Jr.. USA (Ret.),
Director, U.S. Army National Guard ('11-'14)
57. General James L. Jamerson, USAF (Ret.), Deputy
Commander in Chief, U.S. European Command ('95-'98)
58. Lt. General Arlen D. Jameson, USAF (Ret.), Deputy
Commander in Chief, U.S. Strategic Command ('93-'96)
59. Admiral Gregory G. Johnson, USN (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Naval Forces Europe/Commander in Chief, Allied Forces
Southern Europe ('01-'04)
60. Admiral Jerome L. Johnson, USN (Ret.), Vice Chief of
Naval Operations ('90-'92)
61. Lt. General P. K. ``Ken'' Keen, USA (Ret.), Chief,
Office of the U.S. Defense Representative to Pakistan ('11-
'13)
62. Lt. General Richard L. Kelly, USMC (Ret.), Deputy
Commandant, Installations and Logistics ('02-'05)
63. Lt. General Claudia J. Kennedy, USA (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Staff for Army Intelligence ('97-'00)
64. General Paul J. Kem, USA (Ret.), Commanding General,
U.S. Army Materiel Command ('01-'04)
65. General William F. Kernan, USA (Ret.), Supreme Allied
Commander, Atlantic/Commander in Chief. U.S. Joint Forces
Command ('00-'02)
66. Lt. General Donald L. Kerrick, USA (Ret.), Deputy
National Security Advisor to The President of the United
States ('00-'01)
67. Lt. General Bruce B. Knutson, USMC (Ret.), Commanding
General, Marine Corp Combat Command ('00-'01)
68. Vice Admiral Albert H. Konetzni, Jr., USN (Ret.),
Deputy Conunander, U.S. Fleet Forces Command and U.S.
Atlantic Fleet ('01-'04)
69. General Charles Chandler Krulak, USMC (Ret.),
Commandant of the Marine Corps ('95-'99)
70. (Ret.), Lt. General William J. Lennox, Jr., USA
(Ret.), Superintendent, United States Military Academy ('01-
'06)
71. Vice Admiral Stephen F. Loftus, USN (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Naval Operations for Logistics ('90-'94)
72. General Lance W. Lord, USAF (Ret.), Commander, U.S. Air
Force Space Command ('02-'06)
73. Admiral James M. Loy, USCG (Ret.), Commandant, U.S.
Coast Guard ('98-'02)
74. Vice Admiral Joseph Maguire, USN (Ret.), Deputy
Director for Strategic Operational Planning, National
Counterterrorism Center ('07-'10)
75. Admiral Henry H. Mauz, Jr., USN (Ret.), Commander in
Chief, U.S. Atlantic Fleet ('92-'94)
76. Vice Admiral Justin D. McCarthy, SC, USN (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Naval Operations, Fleet Readiness, and Logistics
('04-'07)
77. Lt. General Dennis McCarthy, USMC (Ret.), Commander,
Marine Forces Reserve ('01-'05)
78. Vice Admiral John ``Mike'' M. McConnell, USN (Ret.),
Director of the National Security Agency ('92-'96)
79. General David D. McKiernan, USA (Ret.), Commander,
International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan ('08-
'09)
80. General Dan K. McNeill, USA, (Ret.), Commander,
International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan
('07-'08)
81. General Merrill A. McPeak, USAF (Ret.), Chief of Staff,
U.S. Air Force ('90-'94)
82. Lt. General Paul T. Mikolashek, USA (Ret.), Inspector
General, U.S. Army/Commanding General of the Third U.S. Army
Forces Central Command ('00-'02)
83. Vice Admiral Joseph S. Mobley, USN (Ret.), Commander,
Naval Air Force, U.S. Atlantic Fleet ('98-'01)
84. General Thomas R. Morgan, USMC (Ret.), Assistant
Commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps ('86-'88)
85. Lt. General Carol A. Mutter, USMC (Ret.), Deputy Chief
of Staff, Manpower and Reserve Affairs, Marine Corps ('96-
'98)
86. Admiral Robert J. Natter, USN (Ret.), Commander, Fleet
Forces Command/Commander, U.S. Atlantic Fleet ('00-'03)
87. General William L. Nyland, USMC (Ret.), Assistant
Commandant, U.S. Marine Corps ('02-'05)
88. Lt. General Tad J. Oelstrom, USAF (Ret.),
Superintendent, U.S. Air Force Academy ('97-'00)
89. Admiral Eric T. Olson, USN (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Special Operation Command ('07-'11)
90. Lt. General H. P. ``Pete'' Osman, USMC (Ret.),
Commanding General II MEF ('02-'04)
91. Lt. General Jeffrey W. Oster. USMC (Ret.), Deputy
Administrator and Chief Operating Officer, Coalition
Provisional Authority, Iraq '04), Deputy Commandant for
Programs and Resources, Headquarters Marine Corps ('98)
92. Admiral William A. Owens, USN (Ret.), Vice Chairman,
Joint Chiefs of Staff ('94-'96)
93. Lt. General Frank A. Panter, Jr., USMC (Ret.), Deputy
Commandant for Installations and Logistics ('09-'12)
94. Vice Admiral David Pekoske, USCG (Ret.), Vice
Commandant, U.S. Coast Guard ('09-'10)
95. General David H. Petraeus, USA (Ret.), Director,
Central Intelligence Agency ('11-'12); Commander, Coalition
Forces in Afghanistan ('10-'11) and Iraq ('07-'08)
96. Vice Admiral Carol M. Pottenger, USN (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Staff for Capability Development, NATO Allied
Command Transformation ('10-'13)
97. Admiral Joseph W. Prueher, USN (Ret.), Commander in
Chief, U.S. Pacific Command ('96-'99)
98. Lt. General Harry D. Raduege, Jr., USAF (Ret.),
Director, Defense Information Systems Agency/Commander, Joint
Task Force for Global Network Operations/Deputy Commander,
Global Network Operations and Defense, U.S. Strategic Command
Joint Forces Headquarters, Information Operations ('00-'05)
99. Vice Admiral Norman W. Ray, USN (Ret.), Deputy
Chairman, NATO Military Committee ('92-'95)
100. Lt. General John F. Regni, USAF (Ret.),
Superintendent, United States Air Force Academy ('05-'09)
101. General Victor ``Gene'' E. Renuart, USAF (Ret.),
Commander, North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S.
Northern Command ('07-'10)
102. General Robert W. RisCassi, USA (Ret.), Commander in
Chief, United Nations Command/Commander in Chief, Republic of
Korea/U.S. Combined Forces Command ('90-'93)
103. Lt. General Norman R. Seip, USAF (Ret.), Commander,
12th Air Force/Air Forces Southern ('06-'09)
104. General Henry H. Shelton, USA (Ret.), Chairman, Joint
Chiefs of Staff ('97-'01)
105. Admiral William D. Smith, USN (Ret.), U.S. Military
Representative, NATO Military Committee ('91-'93)
106. Admiral Leighton W. Smith, Jr., USN (Ret.), Commander
in Chief, U.S. Naval Forces Europe/Commander in Chief, Allied
Forces Southern Europe ('94-'96)
107. Lt. General James N. Soligan, USAF (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Staff for Transformation, Allied Command
Transformation ('06-'10)
108. Admiral James G. Stavridis, USN (Ret.), Commander,
U.S. European Command and NATO Supreme Allied Commander,
Europe ('09-'13)
109. Lt. General Martin R. Steele, USMC (Ret.), Deputy
Chief of Staff for Plans, Policies and Operations, U.S.
Marine Corps ('97-'99)
110. General Carl W. Stiner, USA (Ret.), Commander in
Chief, U.S. Special Operations Command ('90-'93)
111. Vice Admiral Edward M. Straw, USN (Ret.), Director,
Defense Logistics Agency ('92-'96)
112. Vice Admiral William D. Sullivan, USN (Ret.), U.S.
Military Representative to NATO Military Committee ('06-'09)
113. Lt. General William J. Troy, USA (Ret.), Director,
Army Staff ('10-'13)
114. Admiral Henry G. Ulrich, USN (Ret.), Commander, U.S.
Naval Forces Europe/Commander, Joint Forces Command Naples
('05-'08)
115. General Charles F. Wald, USAF (Ret.), Deputy
Commander, U.S. European Command ('02-'06)
116. General William S. Wallace, USA (Ret.), Commanding
General, U.S. Army Training and Doctrine Command ('05-'08)
117. Lt. General William ``Kip'' E. Ward, USA (Ret.),
Commander, U.S. Africa Command ('07-'11)
118. General Charles E. Wilhelm, USMC (Ret.), Commander,
U.S. Southern Command ('97-'00)
119. General Michael J. Williams, USMC (Ret.), Assistant
Commandant, U.S. Marine Corps ('00-'02)
120. General Ronald W. Yates, USAF (Ret.), Commander. Air
Force Materiel Command ('92-'95)
121. General Anthony C. Zinni, USMC (Ret.), Commander in
Chief, U.S. Central Command ('97-'00)
Mr. Speaker, in 2013, Secretary of Defense Mattis similarly said: ``If you don't fund the State Department fully, then I need to buy more ammunition ultimately. So I think it's a cost benefit ratio. The more that we put into the State Department's diplomacy, hopefully the less we have to put into a military budget as we deal with the outcome of an apparent American withdrawal from the international scene.''
That is from Secretary of Defense Mattis. I couldn't agree with him more.
Now, I believe that development helps to lift countries and communities up today so they can become strong partners on the global stage tomorrow. A lot of us think we have a moral obligation to help cure disease, improve access to education, and advance human rights. But even if it were not the right thing to do, it would be the smart thing to do because those efforts lead to greater stability, more responsive governments, and stronger rule of law--populations that share our values and priorities. Poverty and lack of opportunity, on the other hand, provide fertile ground for those who mean us harm.
All these efforts, by the way, cost cents on the dollar compared to military engagement. People think international affairs and foreign aid are a massive chunk of the Federal budget, but the chart right over here next to me shows how it actually stacks up: 1.4 percent. And we make that sliver of the pie even smaller. It will come back on us in spades. 1.4 percent of our Federal budget goes to all these programs.
The diseases we don't combat will reach our shores; the communities on which we turn or backs may be the next generation of people who mean us
harm; and the conflicts we fail to defuse may well grow into the wars we need to fight later at a much higher cost in terms of American blood and treasure. Just imagine having to tell the parents of a young American soldier that their son or daughter was killed in battle because we weren't willing to spend the tiny sums needed to prevent the conflict.
Finally, let me say that the American people don't want to see us slash diplomacy and development. In fact, recent data shows that 72 percent of Americans believe the country should play a leading global role. Nearly 6 in 10 believe funding levels at the State Department should stay the same or increase.
Fortunately, the Congress is a coequal branch of government. I want to the remind the executive branch of that. We in Congress decide how much to invest in our international affairs, not the White House.
For example, regardless of how this administration is playing footsie with Vladimir Putin, Congress will devote resources to push back against the Kremlin's efforts to spread disinformation and destabilize our allies, just like they did to the United States during last year's election campaign.
I am hopeful that, as we move forward with next year's spending bills, we continue to provide our diplomatic and development efforts the support they need and the support they have received under Republican and Democratic Presidents alike.
With the President's proposed cuts, I fear what message we are sending to the world. The United States is the global standard bearer for freedom, justice, and democracy. If we cede our role as a global leader, make no mistake, someone will step into the void. It could very well be another power that doesn't share our values or our interests. Think Russia or some country like that.
We cannot allow that to happen. I am committed to ensuring it doesn't, and I look forward to working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to firmly reject President Trump's cuts.
You are doing a fine job.
Mr. Speaker, I couldn't agree with him more. And, you know, it is especially interesting since, during the campaign, President Trump attacked the previous administration for not being strong enough, for not showing American presence. And now with this cut, with this proposed 31 percent cut, I couldn't think of anything that would make us weaker or make us unable to do what we need to do.
So I hope the President remembers what he said during the campaign and acts accordingly so that these massive cuts can be taken away.
Will the gentleman yield?
I would add that we give foreign aid, and it is good for those countries, but it is also good for us. It also helps us. If there is a drug problem in Central America, it inevitably comes up to our border.
If there is some problem with some developing country, say, we have a disease that could--Ebola or something like that, and we give money to help eradicate it, well, that will prevent Ebola from coming into the United States. So it is really a win-win situation.
Again, if we are going to be the leaders of the world, certainly of the free world, and we want other countries to follow our lead, well, if you are a leader, you have to lead. What we are doing is in our own best interests, not only just in the other countries' best interests.
I think it is important to say that. And it is important to, again, say, 1 percent--1.4 percent of our total budget is all the foreign aid and all the money that we give in terms of eradicating diseases, in terms of crime, in terms of everything that is actually very important to us as well. The American people think it is much higher, but it is not.
So if you take the President's slashing of it, it would virtually make all of this impossible to do. So it is a program that is a win-win situation.
Absolutely. Again, I want to reiterate that we are not the leaders of the world because we anointed ourselves. We are the leaders of the world because we provided leadership for all of these years, particularly after World War II, and it is important to engage with the world.
One of the gentlemen mentioned some of the things that the President said. You know, one of the things he did was he called NATO obsolete. That kind of talk worries me because it is our alliances that are the pillar of our foreign policy and the strength of the United States and our alliances which have worked so well since World War II.
So if we denigrate our alliances, and then we cut funding for all these programs that help various countries so we can be a leader by about a third, that doesn't say much for a robust foreign policy. You get to be a leader by acting like a leader, not by pulling away from the world.