Yes. I respectfully say I can do mine in probably 15 minutes. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the pending amendments be set aside for the purpose of considering an amendment. Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading…
Yes. I respectfully say I can do mine in probably 15 minutes.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that the pending amendments be set aside for the purpose of considering an amendment.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that reading of the amendment be dispensed with.
Mr. President, I want to make a couple of observations. I happen to be one of the very first Members of the Senate to go down after Katrina to Louisiana and Mississippi. In fact, actually, we went all the way from New Orleans to Alabama in a helicopter. The devastation that took place is incredible. It reminded me a little bit of the tornadoes we have seen in Oklahoma. The difference is a tornado normally will affect about 5 square miles as opposed to a couple thousand square miles.
I certainly wouldn't want anything that I say to imply that we are not deeply sympathetic to the problems of the people of Louisiana and Mississippi, and to a lesser degree in Alabama. But I have to observe, as I have been listening to this debate, that you can always pour more money on a problem. This is something we have seen in government forever.
The Senator from Montana outlined a lot of things on which we need to spend more money, as did many others over here. You can always do that. I would question whether it is the Federal Government's responsibility to take care of everything that happens when a disaster occurs. We didn't expect that in Oklahoma, and I don't think it should be expected. For one thing, we couldn't do it.
The other day, there was an op-ed piece by the senior Senator from Alaska, Mr. Ted Stevens. He talked about the 1964 earthquake and the devastation. He actually had to go out and repair his own house and do a lot of this work, and not even 10 percent of that was taken care of by the Federal Government. We have a mindset now that somehow the Federal Government has deep enough pockets to take care of all of these problems. Frankly, it is just not right.
It is not true. You can't have it. We are going to have to get a handle on this thing, and I want to help.
I can say them in a relatively short period of time. I have been working on a solution to this problem with an amendment for quite some time. I have actually wanted to offer it previously on appropriations bills. But to do that, I would have to initiate a program of negating paragraph 4 of rule XVI of the rules. I don't think that is appropriate. It has been done three times in the last couple of weeks by three of the Democrat Senators. I don't criticize them for it, but I think if I do this on the Republican side it would be the first time that procedure would have been exercised, and it would not be appropriate.
Last Thursday or Friday, toward the end of the week, I had a colloquy on the floor with Senator Frist, and we specifically discussed bringing up the amendment that I have in mind on the budget reconciliation bill. I am not
naive. It could be that there will be a budget point of order against it. It doesn't really make any difference. We are going to get a vote on this bill.
This is a very simple solution to a very complex problem. I understand a bill is going to be introduced which is going to eliminate all earmarks. That sounds real good. There is a big population out there that thinks this is going to solve the problem. But it doesn't solve the problem.
I mentioned this the other day when my junior Senator brought up a bill to do away with a bridge up in Alaska. I said: Look, you are looking at something where one of the few things that really works well in Washington is the way we handle the Transportation bill. What we do is determine by a formula that no one thinks is fair. Because you always want more in your own State, you take into consideration highway mortalities, the number of road miles, the donee status, and then you come up with a formula. That formula will allocate to the States an amount of money. This money, I might add, is money that has been paid in taxes at the pumps so that it goes to improving our transportation system. When you do this, if you send that to the States and they say, all right, you in the States determine the priorities that you have in the State of Florida, or in the State of New Hampshire, what do you think is the proper thing? That is either done by the elected representatives or by the local people.
In my State of Oklahoma, we have the transportation commission with eight commissioners in eight geographic areas of the State. They prioritize projects, and it is done very well.
With have earmarks to lock in these projects. That can be done, and these decisions are made locally.
There is a mentality in Washington that if a decision is not made in Washington, it is not a good decision. It is a little bit arrogant to say, Yes, the money has gone out to these States, but we in our wisdom do not think it should be spent on those projects that they think it should be spent on in this State--in this case, the State of Alaska, the well-known bridge, so-called Bridge to Nowhere, when, in fact, that bridge was a bridge that was for economic development, according to the Alaska Department of Transportation. They said out of 100 projects, that was No. 4 from the top because they want to develop that area and they cannot develop the area because people cannot get to the area. I am not sure whether I agree with that, but I don't care; that was their decision, not our decision in Washington to make.
If we were to pass a bill to eliminate all earmarks--it is not going to save money in the Transportation bill; almost all of that was below the line in formulas--all it would say is if you eliminate that earmark, then you are going to have to go back and decide what you want to spend that money on. The money is not going to be saved. The money is going to still go to some projects, but we will have dictated that from Washington, DC. I am not saying this critically, because some of my closest friends and good conservatives believe if you eliminate earmarks, you will resolve a problem. You are not going to resolve it.
But there is a way to do it. I have a very simple amendment that will do that. The White House has been looking at ways to cut unnecessary spending. The White House, to their credit, proposed a package of $2.3 billion in cuts. On October 24, 2005, Scott McClelland briefed the press regarding the White House's efforts, stating that certainly an area we have been looking at is rescinding spending increases, and congressional leadership has been looking at this for a long time.
There is a simple solution to this. I have a one-sentence amendment that I will offer to the reconciliation bill. A lot of people think you have to get long and involved verbiage before you can do something good. When I was in the House in 1994 on the issue that ended up being considered the greatest single reform in the history of the House of Representatives, that was my amendment. It was one sentence. You do not have to have long, complicated sentences.
I will read the one sentence that is in this amendment. I know one of the cosponsors of this is the Presiding Officer. It says:
Beginning with fiscal year 2007 and thereafter, all
nondefense nontrust fund discretionary spending shall not
exceed the previous fiscal year's levels without a two-thirds
vote.
Why a two-thirds vote? Something like Katrina comes along, something that is unanticipated, sure, two-thirds of the people may decide we should do something. That is not going to happen very often.
Let me be a little bit partisan because I have heard a statement--not a misquote but certainly taken out of context--one of the Republican Senators saying that all Senators are big spenders; they are all big spenders equally.
Frankly, that just is not right. Yet we do have a solution to this problem. I will show that spending is a partisan issue. This chart shows the Democrat amendments we have seen so far. I can update this. The bottom line is that it is $530 billion--half a trillion--for these Democrat amendments. They are from Senators Bingaman, Stabenow, Byrd, Akaka, Harkin, Kennedy, Dayton, Dorgan, Biden, Clinton. It goes on and on. These are amendments that were offered. These are amendments that were defeated--most of them. All the amendments were considered. If you add up all those amendments by the Democrats in this Senate, that is what you get--half a trillion. If you carry that out to the end of a 10-year period, it is over $1 trillion. Those are specific amendments offered.
We stood in the Senate a few minutes ago and listened to several Senators talk about how much more money we should be spending on these programs. We are going to hear it. I am sure tonight and tomorrow we will hear it. Nonetheless, that is a fact. My solution will not get into entitlements. That will be addressed with reconciliation. There are other ways of doing that.
Of course, right now the defense spending will have to stay up because we went down in our defense spending during the 1990s. We have to rebuild the military. We all understand. I believed the primary top functions that should be performed by Government would be national defense and infrastructure.
In the case of infrastructure, that is money people have paid. That is a moral issue. Most people believe that when they pay the high taxes at the pumps, somehow that will get into building roads and repairing roads. It should. Unfortunately, the highway trust fund has been robbed. The aviation trust fund and other trust funds have been robbed. They need to be kept intact.
However, this very simple solution is one that should pass this Senate. Because of a procedural vote, it might be a budget point of order and need 60 votes to pass. However, if you look at what many of my colleagues on the Democrat side have said--Senator Biden said specifically on more spending cuts:
If I had designed a deficit reduction plan, I would have
done it differently.
Senator Dorgan says that we need to provide spending cuts in a significant manner.
Senator Feingold says:
We also need to continue to cut spending in Federal
programs . . .
Senator Levin stated how we need to cut spending. The last thing he says in the 1993 reconciliation, the same thing we are talking about today:
Discretionary spending is frozen for 5 years.
He advocated freezing discretionary spending. That is exactly what my amendment does.
It says:
Beginning with fiscal year 2007 and thereafter, all
nondefense nontrust fund discretionary spending shall not
exceed the previous fiscal year's level without a two-thirds
of majority vote.
It is very simple, cut and dry, something that can pass. And there will be a vote on this, whether it is a procedural vote or a vote on the content. I hope those individuals who have a more complicated approach to this will recognize this is something that is doable.
I have had the unfortunate experience this year of trying to find every bill that comes up that is over either the budget or last year's spending, and I have opposed that because this is the only way we will get this back in order.
I recognize this is a time when we are going to have deficits. The American
people understand that. We do know we had a rebuilding job to do in the military. Then along came September 11, and we are in the middle of a war. We have to prosecute this war. Then Katrina and some of the other disasters have taken place. We recognize these are difficult times. This is one area in discretionary spending that we can do something.
I look forward to getting a vote on this.
Yes. I want to respond. I thought I had the floor.
Parliamentary inquiry, Mr. President: Do I have the floor?
All right. Well, let me do this. I think the Senator from Georgia wants to make a comment. I would like to yield to him. Then I would like to respond to the Senator from North Dakota.
Mr. President, I believe I have the floor.
Mr. President, I ask the Senator, would you like me to yield time to you? I am trying to finish this.
Mr. President, I yield to the Senator from Iowa.
Parliamentary inquiry.
I believe the pending amendment is the Inhofe amendment. If I may beg the indulgence of the Senator from Iowa, if I could go ahead and conclude my remarks on my amendment and respond to the Senator from North Dakota, he could go back on the reconciliation bill and finish his remarks.
I don't want to do it unless the Senator from Iowa agrees, because his remarks are excellent. If I could finish, it would be a matter of a couple minutes, and then you could get back on the reconciliation bill, if that would be acceptable to the Senator from Iowa.
Mr. President, let me go ahead and conclude.
First, I have a great deal of respect for the Senator from North Dakota, but I disagree with him. Let me point out a couple of things that I believe are not correct.
The Senator from North Dakota said a lot of these amendments were dealing with the same thing. They are not. If you look at them, each one has a subject matter. They are not dealing with the same thing. Secondly, he said they are offset. I would ask the Senator from North Dakota if he can name one that is offset. You can't because these are not offset. The budget analysts said all of these were not offset amendments. They were amendments that were offered, and they were offered by Democrats. And when you add up all the money that is in these amendments that they have offered--I believe most of these were rejected--it would have been an additional half-trillion dollars. It is very clear they are offered by the Democratic Senators.
I started off my remarks by saying we are in a unique situation now. Fortunately, the recession is behind us now. That is not a factor. But this President had to rebuild a military. Then 9/11 came. He had to get involved in a war. Then we had a couple of disasters that were almost unprecedented. I said at the beginning of my remarks, this is not something we can handle in 1 year or even maybe 2 years. But nonetheless, we have to do something specific to get into this thing and to get this thing done, and there is a way of doing it without overly complicating it. That is my amendment.
I would like to also respond to the Senator from North Dakota in his statement about tax cuts. I agree with the Senator from Iowa; they say over and over again that we want to have tax cuts, as if you are cutting revenues when this happens. There was a very great President of the United States that was elected in 1960. His name was John Kennedy. John Kennedy, in 1962, said--and these are his exact words; I don't have to read it because I memorized it: We have serious problems in this country. We are going to have to increase revenue. If you want to increase revenue, then you have to reduce marginal rates, and that will happen. He reduced marginal rates and, sure enough, the revenues did increase.
Then along came President Reagan in 1980. President Reagan started the 8-year period that had the greatest marginal rate tax cuts of any 8-year period in the history of America. If you take the total amount of money and add up the marginal tax rates in 1980, it was $244 billion. In 1990, it was $466 billion and almost doubled in that decade that was the greatest number of tax cuts in the history of this country. I know Democrats don't like to cut taxes. But you can increase revenue by cutting taxes, we have proven over and over again. It happened after World War I. It happened during the Kennedy administration. It happened during the Reagan administration, and it has already happened during the Bush 2 administration.
We can sit around and talk about these things. The bottom line is, if we want to do something about it, there is going to be a vote. You will have a chance to register your belief as to whether or not you want to do something about the deficit. It has already been suggested there will be a budget point of order. That is fine with me. That means there has to be 60, instead of a majority, to get it passed. At least at that time, when that vote takes place, the American people will know who in this Chamber is serious about reducing the deficit, about cutting spending.
With that, Mr. President, that is the argument I make on my amendment. I look forward to getting a vote at the appropriate time, whether it is a vote on my amendment or a vote on a budget point of order.
I yield the floor.
Up here.
Will the Senator yield? First of all, I did yield the floor. I don't have the floor anymore. But I am not going to be able to stay. I would like to respond to some of the things you have said as you progressed further. Would you yield to allow me to do so?
I appreciate that very much. First of all, I have been told by the budget analysts that, in fact, they were not offset. Some of them proposed tax increases. You could call that an offset. I don't. That is increasing taxes to do it.
We are getting off center from the purpose of my amendment. My amendment does something specifically that you can't argue against. You are either for or against it. As I look at these, these are specific amendments. It shows the amount, what the amendment does, and the years that would be affected. So it is true that that would be over a 5-year period because that is what the amendment was for. But if you take that on to the end of it----
You are yielding to me. Let me finish here. It would actually be over $1 trillion, if you carried it out to the end of a 10- year period. I understand what you are saying about 1 year, and that is fine.
These are all specific amendments.
Will the Senator yield?
Mr. President, I think the time has expired on our side. I am prepared to yield back. Things are getting a little redundant. I stand by this chart. I have a friendly disagreement with my good friend from North Dakota. I do agree that there are some offsets with tax increases. I do not consider that something that we should be embracing. There are still spending increases, budget increases, and we need to do something about it now.
I would say this: If the reverse were true, and if all of the amendments to increase the deficit came from the Republican side, I would still introduce this amendment.
I am going to yield back so that my friend from Florida can take up his amendment because he is next in line. But I would say this: Even if it were done on this side of the aisle as opposed to that side of the aisle, I would still say we have to do something for my 12 grandkids, and that is really get a handle on this.
My amendment is good. There are all kinds of people endorsing it. The National Taxpayer's Union is supporting my amendment. I am going to read it one more time and then I am going to yield back the remainder of my time and there will be a vote on it.
Beginning with fiscal year 2007 and thereafter, all
nondefense, non-trust-fund, discretionary spending shall not
exceed the previous fiscal year's levels . . . without a two-
thirds vote of Members duly chosen and sworn.
With that I yield back the remainder of my time.