I thank the gentleman from California for his leadership on these issues and for his continued leadership in bringing these discussions to the American people. I also look forward to hearing my friend from New York in what he has to say.…
I thank the gentleman from California for his leadership on these issues and for his continued leadership in bringing these discussions to the American people. I also look forward to hearing my friend from New York in what he has to say.
We have talked time and again about the importance of what we are trying to accomplish in this House with regard to protecting the Medicare program. I represent a district, as the gentleman well knows, that has 135,000 Medicare beneficiaries. It has, actually, the fourth- most Medicare beneficiaries of any congressional district in the country. So the people I represent have a very strong interest, as does every Member of this House, in making sure that Medicare is preserved, that it's protected, that it's strengthened, and that it is always going to be there, not just for those 135,000 beneficiaries who participate in the Medicare program today but for generations to come.
We are not going to stand here as Democrats or Republicans or as any political affiliation and say that everything is working perfectly and that nothing needs to be altered. The fact is, with regard to Medicare, one-third of the people who qualify for Medicare today use every penny that they have paid into the system over the course of their entire lifetimes within the first year of qualifying for Medicare because they have extremely high health care costs. That is something that we need to address, but you don't address that issue by slashing the program, by gutting Medicare, by taking advantage of those same people we are trying to help.
The fiscal cliff we are talking about is, therefore, a reason because Congress had an inability to come to an agreement on a long-term, fiscally sustainable economic policy, so we put this deadline in place--the first of the year, 16 days from today--when we'll have the situation in which the rates of all of the so-called ``Bush tax cuts,'' which were extended 2 years ago under President Obama, expire at every level, not just at that top bracket that we are talking about in the House.
I do support making sure that that top bracket reverts back to where it was during the Clinton administration or whatever we can negotiate for that group of people. But in doing so, we can't allow that same bracket for all of the taxpayers in the country to revert back because, for example, the lowest income bracket, currently 10 percent--the people who are working hard and playing by the rules, working Americans, working every day for their families--that bracket would go back up to 15 percent, which would be a 50 percent tax increase for the people who can least afford it if we do nothing, and everyone in between would see their tax rates go up.
So, while we continue to have the debate and the discussion about ``what happens to that top bracket?'' we have to understand that all of those income brackets go up--similarly, the estate tax, the alternative minimum tax, the capital gains rate, the child income tax credit, the Making Work Pay tax credit that was put into place a few years ago--all of these things either go away or revert back to a much higher level than they were before.
That coincides with the cuts that we're talking about, the draconian, across-the-board, haphazard cuts that were put in place specifically to spur action. Because they are so ominous and make such devastating cuts in programs, in tandem with the Bush tax cuts expiring, Congress would in no way allow that to happen at the same time. That's what the fiscal cliff is. It's both sides--the spending and the revenue situation. Then with regard to Medicare, that can't be allowed to be swept up in the hysteria that we are facing here in Congress.
We're going to talk more about this, but just leading it off, that's the crux of the discussion. We're going to talk about tax rates. We're going to talk in this discussion about infrastructure spending and the other investments that we can make as a Nation in the future of the country. But in doing so, we can't allow the most vulnerable in this country--135,000 of them live in my district, but all across the country, 40 million Medicare beneficiaries and the generations to come--we can't allow them to be the ones who pick up the bill for the decisions that are made here in haste as we approach the first of the year.
I wanted to supplement my friend from New York's comments about structurally deficient bridges.
I always, when I would have town hall meetings and I talked with my constituents about this issue, I always use the example, because people think, you know, there's better ways to spend money. We're overspending ourselves. We're in great debt. Let's just not do anything this year. Let's wait till next year. Maybe let's wait till the year after that.
I always use the example of, there are certain things that you can put off. And if you're a family, you might say, times are tough, we need to tighten our belt. Maybe I can't go to the movies tonight. Maybe I'm going to have chicken instead of steak. Maybe we're going to have to drive a certain type of car instead of the luxury vehicle that we were hoping to buy--whatever it might be, whatever the family circumstance.
However, no matter what type of house you live in, large or small, if you get a leak in the roof, you have to fix it because if you ignore that leak, it's not going to fix itself. It's not going to remain where it is today. It's going to be worse tomorrow, and it's going to be worse next week, until the roof collapses and you have a catastrophe on your hand.
Well, that's the state of our infrastructure in this country, and I think people get that. And the gentleman talked about the State of New York and the structurally deficient bridges that he has in western New York.
Well, in 2007, I was here, I know the gentleman from New York was here, when we had the terrible disaster in Minnesota, when the interstate bridge collapsed and the loss of life that occurred. And the Secretary of Transportation at the time came to the Transportation Committee. I believe the gentleman served on the Transportation Committee at that time also, and Secretary Peters came and talked about the state of disrepair of our Nation's bridges.
Now, we can talk about locks and dams and our aviation system and the state of our airports and a variety of other infrastructure needs in this country which are just as critical; but just roads and bridges, we were all given a list of the structurally deficient bridges in our districts and in our States.
And I'm embarrassed to say to the gentleman, Pennsylvania is in even worse shape than what he described New York to be. We in Pennsylvania have 6,000 structurally deficient bridges. In western Pennsylvania it's 1,000. And in just the district I represent, currently one out of 19 districts in Pennsylvania, just my district, 300 structurally deficient bridges.
And the structural sufficiency rating, as my colleagues understand, Mr. Speaker, is based upon a zero to 100 scale, 100 being brand new, sturdy, as good and strong as they can possibly be, zero being the bottom.
Well, I had several bridges on that list that the Secretary gave me that were single digits. I had one that was a two, believe it or not.
And I remember asking the question in the hearing, I'm not an engineer, I've never been that great in math, but it seems to me if you have a bridge that's a two on a zero to 100 scale, that doesn't sound very good. And should I, as a driver, or any of my constituents be concerned when they drive across that bridge?
What would be the recommendation from the Department of Transportation?
And the response that I got, after they conferred on how to address this question, they literally said, well, not if you drive across it once. But if that's your daily commute, and you drive across that bridge twice a day every day, you might want to find a different route.
Well, Mr. Speaker, that is not a good answer; but, unfortunately, that's the right answer. And at minimum, we should alert the public to the state of disrepair that our bridges are in so they can make intelligent and informed decisions.
But in the long term, the clear remedy to that situation, the solution is to invest in our infrastructure, to fix our roads and bridges because, yes, it puts people back to work, which is critically important.
The business impact, we transport goods all over the country by truck and by rail. We can talk about the state of disrepair in other transportation sectors too, but we benefit as a country.
But when you see the safety consequences and you think about the fact that we have bridges all across this country that are in such disrepair that they are in the single digits in structural sufficiency, that is a big problem, and that's why we need to invest in our infrastructure.
I wasn't sure if the gentleman was planning to transition into another topic as he draws to a close.
Very quickly, and then I will yield to Mr. Tonko directly, if that's okay, afterwards.
I wanted to bring to the attention of my colleagues and the American people we're talking about what can happen if you ignore infrastructure needs, we're talking about past examples and the potential for future examples of infrastructure problems all across this country and, yes, it's an investment that we need to make. Our roads and bridges, our locks and dams, our rail system, our aviation system as we talked about, our waterways, commerce, there's hundreds of billions of dollars of need. But we're also trying to remain internationally competitive, and we can't be internationally competitive if we have substandard infrastructure. And that just doesn't mean infrastructure that's in disrepair; that means upgrading and improving to adapt to modern technology.
I know as one example, I visited the Port of Miami a year or two ago. They're undergoing a multibillion-dollar project to redredge the port-- one of the largest ports in the United States--to accommodate the larger ships that are going to be able to come through the Panama Canal when the Panama Canal project is completed. If we don't do that in this country, if we don't continue to modernize and upgrade our infrastructure--not just prevent disasters from occurring, economically and through the physics of infrastructure disrepair, but upgrade and modernize our port system and our aviation system to be able to continue to compete internationally with the other countries that have modernized their port infrastructure, we're going to continue to fall behind and we're going to lose jobs; we're going to lose the economic impact. That's what we have to consider when we discuss the fiscal cliff as we started this discussion.
So with that said, I would yield to my good friend, Mr. Tonko.