Farm Bill And Nutrition
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank G.T. Thompson, my colleague from Pennsylvania, our subcommittee chairman on the Nutrition Subcommittee for his leadership. G.T. Thompson deeply feels about the condition that people have who may be living in…
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank G.T. Thompson, my colleague from Pennsylvania, our subcommittee chairman on the Nutrition Subcommittee for his leadership.
G.T. Thompson deeply feels about the condition that people have who may be living in poverty, who may be suffering from food insecurity for themselves and their family. And I say to Chairman Thompson that it has been a pleasure to serve for the last 15 months under his leadership on the Nutrition Subcommittee.
The reforms that we are seeking to implement in H.R. 2 in the SNAP program, in this 2018 farm bill, are truly intended to assist people out of dependency and into employment.
I have heard from so many employers throughout my district in the Catskills and Hudson Valley and in central New York that they have jobs available, but they simply can't find qualified people to meet those jobs and to fulfill those responsibilities.
In fact, this morning in the Budget Committee, we had the Director of the Congressional Budget Office before us, and one of the topics that was raised was the fact that there are very low workforce participation rates among able-bodied people between 18 and 65 in our Nation. And this is part of the problem that we have a workforce participation rate nationally of approximately 63 percent.
In a number of the counties that I represent in the 19th Congressional District in New York State, that workforce participation rate for able-bodied, employable people between 18 and 65 hovers at 60 percent or slightly below 60 percent. There are plenty of jobs that are there, but, unfortunately, people do not have the skills, the training, sometimes the work ethic, and the notion of what it means to get up and go to work every day and meet the need of that employer and customers of that employer.
So this is a real serious issue in our country. If we are going to deal with the looming fiscal crisis that we have for mandatory spending programs like Social Security and Medicare, for instance, we need to get more people in the workforce. We need to create more opportunities to give people a hand-up, and not simply a handout.
Now, one of the things that is truly important about this SNAP reform that Chairman Thompson and Chairman Conaway are leading the way in H.R. 2 on, in this 2018 farm bill, is that we are going to make it easier for people who are on the SNAP program to qualify for the program without having every nickel of any asset that they possibly have to count against their qualification.
So, for instance, this legislation will allow a family on SNAP to have a savings account of up to $2,000 without that counting against the asset test. Today, that simply isn't the case. So a family that might need money for fixing their car, or having their kids go to the orthodontist or the dentist, or some other kind of family emergency--to buy a washing machine, for instance--they are not even allowed under SNAP's asset test rules to have a $2,000 savings account. That is wrong, and it is simply an outmoded notion that we have precluded that.
The other thing that I think is very interesting in this proposal, in this reform proposal, is that we are going to raise the asset test on the value of an automobile from about $4,650 to $12,000. I represent a rural part of upstate New York. My district is larger than the State of Connecticut. Many times people have to drive 40, 50 miles one way to get to a job.
Well, we can't expect someone who is struggling with difficult economic circumstances for them or their family to be able to qualify for SNAP and have an asset of a vehicle--which they need
desperately to get to work every day--we can't have that asset limited to a $4,600 vehicle.
So this legislation which Chairman Thompson and Chairman Conaway are spearheading would raise that vehicle asset test up to $12,000. So these are logical, rational things. That asset test has been at $4,650 for many decades now. So these are the kinds of commonsense reforms that are contained within this proposal that I hope that our colleagues on the other side of the aisle will pay heed to and carefully study because we welcome their input in this.
But we also know that the American people are demanding that we have reform in these programs and that we encourage and we really bring the job opportunities and the job training counseling to people who are dependent. There are over 3 million people in the SNAP program today who are able-bodied adults, who are capable of working, between 18 and 59, who have no children at home. We know that, in today's economy, many, many parents and many Americans go into the workforce with minor children at home. They are out there working. They are out there pitching in trying to improve the lot for themselves and their families. There is absolutely no reason why an able-bodied adult with no children whatsoever should not be in a work program and should not be required to participate in a State-sanctioned, State-supervised employment counseling and training program.
So these are the things that we are trying to do: increase opportunity, obviously reduce fraud and people who might be benefiting from the program who might be working off the books somewhere but still qualifying for benefits. But that is not the main impetus here. The main impetus is: How are we going to create more opportunity for people who need a hand-up in the economic ladder?
Mr. Speaker, I want to thank Chairman Thompson so much for leading the way on this. We had numerous hearings and listening sessions, including one in my district in Schoharie County at SUNY Cobleskill. The overwhelming consensus in dealing with the Food Stamp program or SNAP program is that we need to keep it, we need to make sure that people who are on it and who are able to work have the opportunities and are certainly encouraged to move into the workforce.
Mr. Speaker, I include in the Record an article which I wrote in the Albany Times Union which appeared on April 9, 2018, about the SNAP reform and the need to include healthy measures for food but also enhanced work requirements.
[From the Albany Times Union, Apr. 9, 2018]
SNAP Must Include Work, Healthy Food Mandates
(By Rep. John Faso)
With over 42 million Americans--and over 2.8 million New
Yorkers--receiving critical nutrition assistance, it is a
self-evident fact that the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance
Program (SNAP) helps people in meaningful ways. SNAP reduces
hunger in low income households, and when it provides
benefits to families with children, it has been shown to
improve health outcomes for those children.
Like any program of this size, SNAP is not without flaws.
The program insufficiently promotes self-sufficiency; too
many recipients could be working, but are not.
There continues to be too much fraud and abuse in the
program, and the program also needs to be much more effective
in promoting proper nutrition. Congress will soon reauthorize
SNAP as part of the 2018 Farm Bill and now is the time to fix
the program.
Let's address these issues one at a time.
First, the program needs to better focus on encouraging and
helping non-working recipients find and retain employment.
While many receiving SNAP benefits do work--and others are
seniors, children or disabled, and therefore can't be
expected to work--a large group of those currently receiving
benefits are neither disabled nor employed. In 2016, there
were over 11 million non-disabled people aged 18 through 59
receiving SNAP, who aren't working.
A purpose of benefit programs such as SNAP should be to
help people gain self-sufficiency. We would be more
successful at reducing systemic hunger and poverty if states
required able-bodied adults to participate actively in
employment and training programs that put them on a path
toward stable employment.
Alternatively, if someone does not wish to participate,
they could actively self-select and unenroll from the
program. This approach was successful in increasing earnings
and reducing poverty in the wake of President Bill Clinton's
sweeping welfare reform in the 1990s, and it will work again
if applied to SNAP's current entitlement structure.
Second, fraud and the improper use of benefits is still too
rampant in the SNAP program. Only in Washington is losing
roughly $650 million per year due to fraud and failures in
program integrity considered a ``good job'' because it is a
small percentage of the total amount of taxpayer money spent.
That is still $650 million that is not being used as
intended, which is to feed families.
There must be zero tolerance when it comes to fraud and
abuse. Hiding income, failing to disclose assets, trafficking
benefits or utilizing unscrupulous food vendors are
activities we need to stop. Congress needs to allow state and
local officials who see this fraud right before their eyes to
pursue and penalize this activity.
Finally, the SNAP program is not doing enough to promote
nutrition and reduce childhood obesity. Obesity is an issue
for far too many American families and childhood obesity in
low-income families is growing. The program's title suggests
that it promotes healthy and nutritious food options but does
nothing to limit the ability to purchase products that no one
will argue are part of a healthy diet. Hundreds of millions
of dollars' worth of SNAP benefits are spent on sugary
beverages, and it's past time that Washington prohibits the
use of SNAP benefits to purchase soda. Every dollar not spent
on soda can go toward a healthier alternative. While some
will contend we are limiting choice for the poor, tax dollars
should only pay to encourage healthier choices.
At the same time, we should also fix some of the asset
tests for eligibility, such as allowing a recipient to have a
car worth over $12,000 instead of the $5,000 limit today. If
we expect someone to work, they need a reliable vehicle to
get to the job. We should also allow a recipient to have
savings up to $2,000, without affecting eligibility.
Over the next decade, SNAP benefits will total more than
$630 billion in taxpayer dollars. We must do more to ensure
that we assist able-bodied recipients in joining the job
market, while at the same time continuing to assist those for
whom nutrition assistance is a necessity.
John Faso, R-Kinderhook, represents the 19th Congressional
District.