Mr. President, I thank my colleague, the ranking member of the committee. I am privileged to serve on that committee with the senior Senator from the great State of Missouri. I would like to first make a few opening comments, if I might.…
Mr. President, I thank my colleague, the ranking member of the committee. I am privileged to serve on that committee with the senior Senator from the great State of Missouri.
I would like to first make a few opening comments, if I might.
Mr. President, first, I commend how well the distinguished Senator from Missouri has represented to this Chamber and its Members and, indeed, to all those in our Nation who are following this debate, how well he has represented a proper and balanced perspective and how a solution to the important questions that have been raised by all of us can be resolved.
In my own case, I have thought long and hard about this situation, and I would like to reflect on a bit of history. I was privileged to serve in the Department of Defense from the years 1969 to 1974 during the war in Vietnam. At the latter part of my service there, we originated the concept of the all-volunteer force. There was great skepticism as to whether this concept would work, and it was a high risk to abolish the draft and to enter into this concept of all volunteer, to be the only persons to be given the privilege of wearing the uniform of the United States of America in the branches of the Army, the Navy, the Air Force, and the Marines.
Fortunately, it was adopted by the President, eventually written into law by the Congress. That concept has worked. It is working at this very moment with brave young men and women all over the world. They are there because each of them raised their right hand and took the oath of office voluntarily.
I see a direct analogy to this question that is before this Chamber and, indeed, the Nation, the question of whether corporations, which although they did not raise their hand and volunteer, they have nonetheless volunteered comparably to the men and women in the Armed Forces.
The work product of their volunteering is every day saving and protecting the lives of our service personnel and, indeed, many others worldwide from the actions of terrorists and others who are trying to rip freedom away from our Nation and other nations.
So as we reach our decision on this issue, let's stop to think about the United States of America, while not written into the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, or otherwise, has throughout its history adopted a concept of voluntarism by its citizens, by its companies to step forward and take on serious problems that confront our Nation.
I see a direct analogy, I say to my distinguished colleague, and I stand steadfast with our committee which voted 13 to 2 to provide this framework which we hope will eventually become the law of the land, to give reasonable
protections to these companies that are part of the overall volunteer force, be they in uniform or corporations, working to protect our Nation.
Having said that, I say to my distinguished colleague, I think it is very important that we proceed to prepare a complete record for the scrutiny of all on these issues. I wish to suggest a question to my distinguished colleague.
All of us have heard a number of comments that more time is needed to study this issue, the issue of carrier liability, carriers being those companies that stepped up to work on behalf of the cause of freedom and preservation of our safety here at home. Hasn't the Intelligence Committee conducted a thorough and bipartisan review of the President's surveillance program? And hasn't the committee determined the providers acted in good faith?
For purposes of the record, I do not claim the credit. I was but one of many who worked on the concept of that great program. I found in this town, and as I know the Senator does likewise, the less credit you try and take, the more effective one can be in other tasks.
Mr. President, I thank my colleague. He said the committee ``concluded.'' It concluded by the manifestation of a vote of 13 to 2, so that an overwhelming majority of the committee, bipartisan, made this decision.
I think that is an important reference point.
Further, I say to my colleague, the committee's liability provision in the matters pending before this Senate today extends only to civil-- I underline civil--liability protection for those providers that allegedly assisted with the TSP program. Isn't this already a compromise from what the Director of the National Intelligence had initially requested of the Congress?
Mr. President, I thank my colleague for that because the DNI, Director McConnell, a former admiral--I knew him in the Navy going way back when I was there. As a matter of fact, as a point of reference, when I was Secretary, he was one of the junior officers who briefed me every morning at 7:30 on intelligence. But he has done an extraordinary job in presenting in a very fair and objective way the need for the revisions to this legislation which are reflected in the pending bill before the Senate as submitted by the committee.
I think the Senator has carefully delineated those portions which we resolved, as a committee, were essential and did not accept in full measure all his recommendations; am I not correct in that?
Again, Mr. President, I have to tell you, I was learning at a very young age and taking on responsibility in that critical period of history. I learned as much from him, if not more, than he did from me.
I have another question for my colleague. What consequences or risks are there if our private volunteer--I underline volunteer--participants by way of corporations are not given civil liability protection from the pending and ongoing lawsuits and perhaps others?
Mr. President, I thank my colleague. I think it is very important that we portray the risks that are associated with these endeavors taking place in the court system now. Again, I draw the attention of all colleagues to the thorough work done by this committee on which I am privileged to serve and the bipartisan manner in which we resolved these issues.
A question to my colleague: We heard some Members advocate substitution--in other words, a substituted solution--rather than a civil liability protection. Perhaps the Senator can address exactly what that substitution is and how, in his judgment, this would not be a means by which to resolve this very serious problem.
Mr. President, I thank my colleague. I would also add that there will be further chapters in the history of this country, and I cannot try to look that far into the future as to what those chapters may be when we, as a successor government to the one we now have in terms of our President, will be faced with another challenge and look to volunteers--volunteers--to solve this problem. This is going to be a landmark precedent for future Presidents as we address problems which could be assisted by the participation of the corporate world here in our United States.
A further question of my colleague. We have also heard some Members say the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court should decide whether the providers acted in good faith. Wouldn't this duplicate the bipartisan work of the Intelligence Committee?
Madam President, no objection.
I would just ask if it would be possible--and I see my distinguished colleague on the floor seeking recognition--may I have but a few minutes to conclude my remarks here with my good friend and the ranking member of the committee?
Madam President, last year, when the important legislation passed by the Senate Intelligence Committee came to the floor, I spoke about several elements in this bill. Specifically, I spoke about how the Intelligence Committee bill ensures that the intelligence gap that was closed by the Protect America Act in August remains sealed. I spoke about the important balance the Intelligence Committee bill strikes between protecting civil liberties and ensuring that our hard-working and dedicated intelligence professionals have the tools they need to protect this Nation--a point I cannot too strongly emphasize. I also highlighted one of the most important provisions of the bill: retroactive liability protection for carriers alleged to have assisted the Government with the terrorist surveillance program. I said in December that, based on the documents and testimony provided to our committee, I strongly believed the carriers that have participated in the program relied--I repeat, relied--upon our Government--that is, the executive branch of the Government of the United States--that their actions were legal and in the best interests of the security of America. Further, I stated that, in my opinion, these companies deserve and must be protected from costly and damaging litigation in our court system.
During the Senate's Christmas recess, I had additional time to further study this issue, as I have day after day, and gather additional information. That time to reflect and study and to deepen my knowledge on this issue has only reinforced my view that the carrier liability protections in the Intelligence Committee's bill are not only necessary but vital for the protection of our future national security.
One item in particular has played a key role in my thinking about this issue. It was a thoughtful opinion piece written by three gentlemen I know very well, former public servants, and I wish to say a few words about that, and then I will conclude my remarks.
Three individuals stepped forward to give their perspectives on this critical issue. The first was Benjamin Civiletti, U.S. Attorney General under President Jimmy Carter; the second was Dick Thornburgh, U.S. Attorney General under President George Herbert Walker Bush; and thirdly, Judge William Webster, known very well by almost all of us here in the Chamber, former Director of the CIA and former Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The article these fine public servants authored, titled ``Surveillance Sanity,'' appeared in the October 31, 2007, edition of the Wall Street Journal.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent to have printed in the Record a copy of that article following my remarks.
I wish to share some of the thoughts in that article with my colleagues.
First, regarding the Intelligence Committee's carefully crafted and limited liability protections, the three public servants said:
We agree with the committee. Dragging phone companies
through protracted litigation would not only be unfair, but
it would deter other companies and private citizens from
responding in terrorist emergencies whenever there may be
uncertainty or legal risk.
Our committee has heard testimony that without such protections, some companies believe they can no longer cooperate and assist our Government because they would risk hundreds of millions of dollars of their shareholders' money in protracted lawsuits. They have a fiduciary responsibility, those companies, to their shareholders. That is intrinsic in all of our corporate structures.
Second, the boards of directors of these companies have a fundamental obligation to those shareholders. On this issue, the three public servants wrote:
The government alone cannot protect us from the threats we
face today. We must have the help of all of our citizens.
There will be times when the lives of thousands of Americans
will depend on whether corporations such as airlines and
banks are willing to lend assistance. If we do not treat them
fairly when they respond to assurances from the highest
levels of the government that their help is legal and
essential for saving lives, then we will be radically
reducing our society's capacity to defend itself.
Moreover, I believe that companies which assisted the Government will not be treated fairly by the provision being offered by my Judiciary Committee colleagues to substitute the Government in currently pending lawsuits.
I strongly believe the substitution proposal is not an acceptable alternative to the Intelligence Committee's bill.
Additionally, if lawsuits are allowed to proceed, companies will still be forced to participate and provide evidence. The continuing damage in terms of business reputation and stock valuation even if the Government ultimately prevails, will surely be extremely harmful to the companies.
Further, the Government being substituted as the defendant in a trial opens up evidentiary problems regarding sources and methods which, if exposed, would hinder the ability of the intelligence community to intercept terrorist communications and those of our other enemies.
Finally, the last point I would like to raise relates to the right of individuals to file suit. Let me be clear--individuals who believe that the Government violated their civil liberties can pursue legal action against the Government--the Intelligence Committee's bill does nothing to limit that legal recourse.
This issue is underscored by the final quote I would like to share with you by Messrs. Civiletti, Thornburg, and Webster:
Whether the government has acted properly is a different
question from whether a private person has acted properly in
responding to the government's call for help. From
its earliest days, the common law recognized that when a
public official calls on a citizen to help protect the
community in an emergency, the person has a duty to help and
should be immune from being hauled into court unless it was
clear beyond doubt that the public official was acting
illegally. Because a private person cannot have all the
information necessary to assess the propriety of the
government's actions, he must be able to rely on officials
assurances about need and legality. Immunity is designed to
avoid the burden of protracted litigation, because the
prospect of such litigation itself is enough to deter
citizens from providing critically needed assistance.
Madam President--I agree with these distinguished gentlemen.
Bottom line, companies who participate in this program do so voluntarily to help America preserve its freedom and security. And that security will ensure for the very safety--both individually and collectively--of its citizens.
In closing, I would like to state that I have long supported the idea of ``an all-volunteer force'' for our military and I believe ``an all- volunteer force'' of citizens and businesses who do their part to protect our great Nation from harm is equally important.
Without this retroactive liability provision, I believe companies will no longer voluntarily participate. This will result in a degradation of America's ability to protect its citizens.
It is for these reasons that I urge my colleagues to support the Rockefeller-Bond substitute amendment to grant the men and women of the intelligence community the tools they need to protect our country.
Exhibit 1
[From The Wall Street Journal, Oct. 31, 2007]
Surveillance Sanity
(By Benjamin Civiletti, Dick Thornburgh and William Webster)
Following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001,
President Bush authorized the National Security Agency to
target al Qaeda communications into and out of the country.
Mr. Bush concluded that this was essential for protecting the
country, that using the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
would not permit the necessary speed and agility, and that he
had the constitutional power to authorize such surveillance
without court orders to defend the country.
Since the program became public in 2006, Congress has been
asserting appropriate oversight. Few of those who learned the
details of the program have criticized its necessity.
Instead, critics argued that if the president found FISA
inadequate, he should have gone to Congress and gotten the
changes necessary to allow the program to proceed under court
orders. That process is now underway. The administration has
brought the program under FISA, and the Senate Intelligence
Committee recently reported out a bill with a strong
bipartisan majority of 13-2, that would make the changes to
FISA needed for the program to continue. This bill is now
being considered by the Senate Judiciary Committee.
Public disclosure of the NSA program also brought a flood
of class-action lawsuits seeking to impose massive liability
on phone companies for allegedly answering the government's
call for help. The Intelligence Committee has reviewed the
program and has concluded that the companies deserve targeted
protection from these suits. The protection would extend only
to activities undertaken after 9/11 until the beginning of
2007, authorized by the president to defend the country from
further terrorist attack, and pursuant to written assurances
from the government that the activities were both authorized
by the president and legal.
We agree with the committee. Dragging phone companies
through protracted litigation would not only be unfair, but
it would deter other companies and private citizens from
responding in terrorist emergencies whenever there may be
uncertainty or legal risk.
The government alone cannot protect us from the threats we
face today. We must have the help of all our citizens. There
will be times when the lives of thousands of Americans will
depend on whether corporations such as airlines or banks are
willing to lend assistance. If we do not treat companies
fairly when they respond to assurances from the highest
levels of the government that their help is legal and
essential for saving lives, then we will be radically
reducing our society's capacity to defend itself.
This concern is particularly acute for our nation's
telecommunications companies. America's front line of defense
against terrorist attack is communications intelligence. When
Americans put their loved ones on planes, send their children
to school, or ride through tunnels and over bridges, they are
counting on the ``early warning'' system of communications
intelligence for their safety. Communications technology has
become so complex that our country needs the voluntary
cooperation of the companies. Without it, our intelligence
efforts will be gravely damaged.
Whether the government has acted properly is a different
question from whether a private person has acted properly in
responding to the government's call for help. From its
earliest days, the common law recognized that when a public
official calls on a citizen to help protect the community in
an emergency, the person has a duty to help and should be
immune from being hauled into court unless it was clear
beyond doubt that the public official was acting illegally.
Because a private person cannot have all the information
necessary to assess the propriety of the government's
actions, he must be able to rely on official assurances about
need and legality. Immunity is designed to avoid the burden
of protracted litigation, because the prospect of such
litigation itself is enough to deter citizens from providing
critically needed assistance.
As the Intelligence Committee found, the companies clearly
acted in ``good faith.'' The situation is one in which
immunity has traditionally been applied, and thus protection
from this litigation is justified.
First, the circumstances clearly showed that there was a
bona fide threat to ``national security.'' We had suffered
the most devastating attacks in our history, and Congress had
declared the attacks ``continue to pose an unusual and
extraordinary threat'' to the country. It would have been
entirely reasonable for the companies to credit government
representations that the nation faced grave and immediate
threat and that their help was needed to protect American
lives.
Second, the bill's protections only apply if assistance was
given in response to the president's personal authorization,
communicated in writing along with assurances of legality.
That is more than is required by FISA, which contains a safe-
harbor authorizing assistance based solely on a certification
by the attorney general, his designee, or a host of more
junior law enforcement officials that no warrant is required.
Third, the ultimate legal issue--whether the president was
acting within his constitutional powers--is not the kind of
question a private party can definitively determine. The
companies were not in a position to say that the government
was definitely wrong.
Prior to FISA's 1978 enactment, numerous federal courts
took it for granted that the president has constitutional
power to conduct warrantless surveillance to protect the
nation's security. In 2002, the FISA Court of Review, while
not dealing directly with the NSA program, stated that FISA
could not limit the president's constitutional powers. Given
this, it cannot be said that the companies acted in bad faith
in relying on the government's assurances of legality.
For hundreds of years our legal system has operated under
the premise that, in a public emergency, we want private
citizens to respond to the government's call for help unless
the citizen knows for sure that the government is acting
illegally. If Congress does not act now, it would be
basically saying that private citizens should only help when
they are absolutely certain that all the government's actions
are legal. Given the threats we face in today's world, this
would be a perilous policy.
Madam President, I yield the floor at this time.