I thank the gentleman from Michigan. We've heard about how important STEM visas are. And we don't want to debate the point; they're important. That's why when we have the real immigration debate, the debate that will result in the…
I thank the gentleman from Michigan.
We've heard about how important STEM visas are. And we don't want to debate the point; they're important. That's why when we have the real immigration debate, the debate that will result in the signature of the President, the debate that starts in January when Congress is sworn in, that's why we will have STEM visas in that bill.
So everyone agrees STEM visas are important; and if you didn't know this before the last election, I hope you know it now. The American people want us to fix our immigration system.
But the more important message I got from the election is that American people say that we can solve the immigration issue if Republicans and Democrats work together, put aside bitterness, come to the table in an honest manner. It's not enough to talk about lowering the rhetoric. If we do it in an honest manner, a transparent manner, we can solve the tough problems of immigration and put it at the top of our list.
We need to approach immigration as a faucet of America's past, present, and future, and solve the problems we have with our current immigration mess like adults: honestly and openly and in a bipartisan manner. We need to stop scoring cheap political points and playing games with immigration and start working together, not bringing bills without ever discussing and negotiating with the other side of the aisle. That's not the way to be comprehensive. This is why it is so disappointing that the majority has decided to undermine an area of bipartisan agreement on STEM visas by loading up the measure with provisions that are a slap in the face to the core values and the rich tradition of immigrants to the United States of America.
If you support this bill, you're saying that one group of immigrants is better than another, that one type of educated, degree-holding person and their work is more important than others. In order to give visas to those with Ph.D.s and master's degrees, Republicans make two demands. First, we take away visas and the only means of legal immigration from 50,000 people who may not have Ph.D.s and master's degrees. Talk about picking winners and losers. My dad, if he had been an immigrant from Ireland or Nigeria or Taiwan, would have been told, No, America is not for you under this bill, Mr. Gutierrez. It's like when they used to hang up signs in America saying, ``Help wanted. Irish need not apply.'' They were part of the diversity program today that they want to kill.
The second thing this bill requires is that we treat the families of those with Ph.D.s and master's degrees differently than we treat the families of those who don't have doctorates. If you have a master's or a Ph.D., we say, Please, come to America. Bring your wife, bring your husband, bring your kids. We'll give them all permission to work. Automatic work permits for spouses, no waiting for STEM-degree holders. But if you don't have a Ph.D. or a master's degree, we're going to take away your wife's ability to work legally. We may let her in 6 months earlier, but--
It's as though they said to my father, Let's check your education record, Mr. Gutierrez. Oh, no doctor before your name, no fancy initials, Mr. Gutierrez, after your name? Well, Mr. Gutierrez, you and the kids stay home. You can't work.
That is not America. There was no special line for Ph.D. and master's degree holders on Ellis Island. There was no asterisks on the Statue of Liberty that said IQ must be there in a higher standard. They are saying my father--and I resent it--was too stupid to make it, but he put two kids through college, and one in the House of Representatives.
Let's look at what we've debated here this morning. The truth is, as the gentleman from California so rightfully notes, this is something we can all agree on, and that is STEM visas to supply the need for that economic engine of our economy. That's not really the question here. The question is: At what cost do we allow this to happen? And what we are saying is it is almost as though November 6 came and went and my friends on the other side of the aisle just never listened to the verdict of the people. And what they said to us was, Stop picking winners and losers. Stop dividing and pitting one American against another.
How many countless occasions have we heard our friends on the other side of the aisle decry us for class warfare, and yet they come with a proposal here today, and we can use their very words: They want smart people; they want educated people; they want people that are going to add something to the economy. Well, let me just suggest that we, many of us in this Congress today, came from very humble roots.
And, yes, I resent the fact that people come before the well of the House to tout the virtues of their moms and dads and say, My mom worked really hard. She scrubbed pots; she stayed up; she mopped people's homes; she worked so hard. She had nothing left on her fingers so that I could get an education and I could come to the Congress of the United States. And yet they come and propose something that will deny other people that same opportunity to come here to work hard, to sweat and to toil
and to one day maybe send their son or daughter to the Congress of the United States.
We can find these speeches throughout the history of the Congress of the United States; but the difference today is that this side of the aisle wants to be honest and consistent with that story, that virtuous story of immigrants who have come here to sweat and to toil from all kinds. We don't want to go back to the day of ``Irish need not apply.'' We know the history of immigration in this country when they were saying, Well, not those people, not those that are not educated, not those that are hungry, not those that are famished, they should not come here. That's an old argument and we shouldn't be making it today, especially after the election that we just had.
All we're saying to the other side of the aisle is: Why is it that you couldn't sit down with this side of the aisle in a bipartisan manner? Because that's what people said during the election. They said, Listen, guys, we want you to settle down. We want you to work this out for the good of the American people.
I'm going to tell you why I believe you couldn't negotiate with us. Because you have to negotiate with NumbersUSA. Why don't we just say it. They're the party that's not here in the well of the House, but they're here in spirit and in the legislative policy that we are reiterating here today. You can't negotiate with us because you have to negotiate with the most extreme element of American society on immigration and not with those that want to bring about comprehensive immigration reform and reform in our immigration system.
And what is NumbersUSA? In short, NumbersUSA, a short, descriptive modifier should call it an immigration reduction organization.
So who did you negotiate with? The immigration reduction organization. And that's why you have to put up the visas, these visas that have allowed tens of thousands of people to come to this country and to work hard and to sweat and to toil and to make this a greater Nation for all of us.
Now, how does it reduce the numbers? It's simple. You know it and we know it. Every graduate, master's, and Ph.D. on an annual basis in the United States, what is the number? What is the number? That's the number we should be cognizant of here today. It's 29,000. Now it's 55,000 visas.
So why is it that we're offering 55,000 visas for 29,000 possible graduates? And wait a minute. That's if every graduate doesn't go back to their country. And we know many of them return to their countries to build those nations, and we want that to continue. We want them to come to the United States of America and go back to their country and foster democracy and goodwill. So many of them do that. But not all the 29,000 stay here. So what happens? You eliminate 50,000 visas. You say we're going to give you 55,000. You know you only can use 29,000. It's a net loss.
The people on the other side of the aisle keep telling us, Why don't they come through the legal way? Why don't they come through the legal way? Why do they always have to go under and around? They should come here legally because we're for legal immigration.
Today you're not for legal immigration because, in the end, you reduce the ability of people to come legally to the United States of America, and that is the Diversity program.
And lastly, let me just be very, very clear. When we look at this and we talk about the continent of Africa, we think it's important that every continent of the world be able to come here and contribute to the great Nation that is because that is the diversity and the greatest tradition of America: Ellis Island, bring me everyone from everywhere to sweat and to toil and to make America a greater Nation. But think about it a moment. Just do the math. If half of the 55,000 Diversity visas come from the continent of Africa, and there are only 29,000 total STEM, come on, just do the numbers and you can see why it is that on our side of the aisle.
Let's sit down. Let's have a hearing. Let's bring in the experts. Let's have a discussion and a debate. Let's work together. Let's sit back. But if we're going to move America forward, then we have to stop negotiating with those that want to keep us in the past, and that's NumbersUSA. It's NumbersUSA who said to you self-deportation should be the rule of law in America; S.B. 1070 is great and should be institutionalized in every State of the Union.
We rejected that this last election. In this last election, there was a referendum and there were those of us on one side that said to the American people, We want an immigration system that is fairer and sets aside the political bickering to the one side and allows us to fix our immigration system, and another that said, We want to stand in the past.
Let's work together to build a better future for all of us. I honestly and earnestly want that to happen, but I cannot in good conscience vote for a bill that offends my sense of fairness, that offends my sense of the great American tradition that is our immigration tradition.
Thank you so much.