If I might join in, it is enormously important we lay a good record as to what this is all about and why the Hyde amendment has been the law of our Nation for so long. It is important. Therefore, I direct a question to Senator Hatch.…
If I might join in, it is enormously important we lay a good record as to what this is all about and why the Hyde amendment has been the
law of our Nation for so long. It is important. Therefore, I direct a question to Senator Hatch.
Please, if you would, describe how the Hyde amendment works today.
That was an excellent explanation of what Hyde is about. It underscores why we are so upset about the unbelievable expansion that is going to occur if this Reid bill is passed. You mentioned the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program. Let me take a minute to talk about how that works because, again, I think it underscores the point we are making today. Let me give an example. The current Federal Employees Health Benefits Program does this. It has 250 participating health plans that do not cover abortion. Federal employees pay a share of the cost.
The Federal Government, through tax dollars collected, pays the balance. So it is a mixture of Federal employees' contributions through their paychecks and the Federal Government getting the money through tax dollars. Federal employees cannot opt for elective abortion coverage because taxpayer dollars are subsidizing the cost of their employee plan. You can see how we have tried to remain true to the distinction you talked about. As many have said during the debate, if it is good enough for Federal employees, then why isn't it good for the rest of the citizens?
I ask Senator Brownback, what is in the Reid bill that does not reflect the current Hyde language? And if I could maybe direct that to both of you or to Senator Hatch.
I say to Senator Hatch, I am glad you raised that issue. Yes, that is correct. Your understanding is correct. Women would be allowed to purchase separate elective abortion coverage with their own money.
I ask Senator Brownback, do you have a comment on that, or a question?
Let me just interject something here because I think this is a very important point to make, following up on what Senator Hatch just said. Some say that a person would never want to purchase a separate rider to cover abortion. It just would not happen, they say. But they misunderstand what the Stupak language actually allows.
Let me be clear about this. If a woman wants her health insurance plan to provide elective abortion services, she does have the choice to purchase a health insurance plan that provides that on the exchange. She just has to pay for it with her own money. Am I correct in that interpretation or have I misunderstood that?
Absolutely. As the Senator offers this explanation about a Catholic health care provider, it hits right to the heart of this issue. I most certainly agree with the Senator and I want him to know that many Nebraskans agree with him and agree with me on this issue.
I got a letter recently from a gentleman out in western Nebraska, from a little community called Ainsworth--a great area of our State. He wrote to me and said this:
I urge you to support freedom of conscience which protects
professionals from being forced to participate in abortion
and other anti-life practices, which include end-of-life
issues.
I had another constituent from Gretna, NE, more on the eastern side of our State, and this constituent wrote to me and said this:
I am also very disturbed to learn that health care workers
may be forced to act and speak contrary to their own
consciences. I find it shocking to believe that this is being
considered within a serious conversation/debate.
We are going to put up a chart. President Obama has weighed in on some of these issues. President Obama gave a speech to a joint session of Congress. We all remember that was on September 9 of this year. He said this:
And one more misunderstanding I want to clear up--under our
plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and
federal conscience laws will remain in place.
The President has gone on to state on multiple occasions that he would not support abortion in a health care bill. The President has stated that over and over. The President has also stated on multiple occasions--both as a candidate and as President--that it is his goal to lower the incidence of abortion. That is what he says, not what the Democrat-led Senate has done, though, relative to this bill, which he has embraced. And it is not what the leadership has done in this bill.
You see, my colleagues, I see this as a radical abortion approach, a radical piece of language. And you can go right to the bill itself, to pages 116 to 124 of this 2,074-page bill, and you can read it yourself.
I have to tell you, there is so much about this bill that is bad policy, but this is especially damaging. The President promised us he would not let it happen. Do the President and the Members of his party, who control the Senate, who wrote the bill behind closed doors, do they really believe abortion is health care? Why didn't they just strip this language out? Why didn't they adopt the Stupak language, which was voted upon in the House, the Stupak compromise? Why didn't they adopt that, knowing that 64 Democrats had signed on to that language?
What do you think about the President's commitment and his promise to us not to use Federal dollars to fund abortions? I say to Senator Brownback, I would like to hear his thoughts on that.
Absolutely. It absolutely makes sense. I say to Senator Hatch and Senator Brownback, one of the things that has been very remarkable to me--this bill just came out, as you know. It was behind closed doors for weeks and weeks and came out in the middle of the night, actually.
Madam President, pro-life groups weighed in on this bill immediately. For all of the complexity, for all of the definitions, for all of the buried language, they saw immediately what this bill was all about. Pro-life groups across the board have opposed the provisions of this legislation. No pro-life group has taken the bait. They represent millions of Americans across this great country.
Let me, if I might, take a moment and quote from what they have said. The National Right to Life Committee--and again I am quoting--says this:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has rejected the
bipartisan Stupak-Pitts amendment and has substituted
completely unacceptable language that would result in
coverage of abortion on demand in two big, new Federal
Government programs.
The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has weighed in. They said this one is the worst bill so far--the worst one so far on this issue. Again, I am quoting:
The conference believes the bill violates the long-standing
Federal policy against the use of Federal funds for elective
abortions in health plans that include such abortions, a
policy upheld in all health programs covered by the Hyde
amendment: the Children's Health Insurance Program, the
Federal Employee Health Benefits Program, and now in the
House-passed Affordable Health Care for America Act. We
believe legislation that violates this moral principle is not
true health care reform and must be amended to reflect it. If
that fails, the current legislation should be opposed.
The Family Research Council says this, describing the legislation as a:
. . . direct attack on the principles set forth in the Hyde
amendment over 30 years ago. This bill is one only an
abortionist could love.
Concerned Women for America said the following:
In a dramatic departure from current policy, the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act will provide government
funding for elective abortions. Over all, this bill raises
serious pro-life concerns.
Senator Hatch referred to polls. The polls indicate the majority of Americans do not want their tax dollars paying for elective abortions. According to that CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey, 6 in 10 Americans favor a ban on the use of Federal funds for abortion. It also indicates that the public may also favor--literally favor--legislation that would prevent many women from getting their health insurance plan to cover the cost of abortion even if no Federal funds were involved. This poll indicates that 61 percent of the public oppose the use of public money for abortions for women who cannot afford the procedure.
I have to ask the question of Senator Hatch: When will we listen to the American people on this important issue?
I have. We have seen the polls. We have gotten letters from our constituents. Consistently, in poll after poll, we can see what the American people are saying. They do not want their tax dollars to fund abortions.
I thank the Senator. Let me, if I might, before I address that, tell my colleagues how proud I am to stand here with these two champions of this issue, Senator Brownback and Senator Hatch. They have a remarkable history of every time they had an opportunity standing strong on an issue that I must admit is not the most popular issue in Washington, DC, to promote, and I admire their courage.
To address the relevant question of the day, the Stupak protections, that compromise that was reached in the House, it is not in this bill.
Of course, since it is not in this underlying bill, this Reid bill, it is very unlikely to be in the final bill. I wish somebody could disprove this. But, very simply, there aren't enough pro-life Senators to break this provision and get the Stupak amendment passed on the Senate floor if we propose it as an amendment--and I am sure it will be--there just aren't enough.
That is why I have been making the case over the last 48 hours that the motion to proceed is the key vote on abortion in the health care debate. The most important pro-life vote that a pro-life Senator will cast, I believe, in the entire time they are here is on this motion to proceed. I have seen all the arguments from many, saying this is a procedural vote; that there is nothing to worry about; that it just begins debate, and we might potentially vote this bill down, and we can do some amendments and some tweaking.
But the facts suggest otherwise. The Congressional Research Service has looked into this. Between the 106th and 110th Congresses, there were 41 cases, according to the Congressional Research Service, in which the Senate approved a motion to proceed and then proceeded to a vote on the final bill. Do you know what the end result of those 41 cases were, when the motion to proceed was approved? It was 40 times out of 41--about 97 percent--went on to receive final approval. In other words, all but one passed into law.
This suggests to me this vote tonight at 8 o'clock on the life issue is very well determinative. Some of my colleagues also argue if we don't like the bill, we should not block the opportunity to amend it, and they say let us proceed.
I don't believe, if you are truly pro-life as a Senator, you can make that argument. Here is why: Everybody in the Senate knows what it will take to amend the Reid bill on something like this. It will take 60 votes. It is the way the Senate operates. It will take 60 votes. Again, I say to Senator Hatch and Senator Brownback, I wish I could count 60 pro-life Senators. I wish I could do that. But by anybody's count, I believe--mine included--there aren't 60 here.
I believe if you are pro-life, every opportunity you get to stand for the life issue, you must stand for that issue. These truly are our most vulnerable citizens. I feel very strongly that at 8 o'clock, when we are gaveled to a vote, we need to stand up on this issue--this life issue--or there is a 97-percent chance it is lost.
I will conclude my thoughts on this by saying this: There were many strong and courageous pro-life Democrats in the House. I watched that. That was remarkable. Can you imagine the pressure they were put under? This evening, we just need one--not many, just one Democrat--who will come here and say I am pro-life. If we don't stand together tonight, this bill will radically expand abortion, and I cannot live with that.
I thank Senator Corker on behalf of not only myself
but the folks back home in Nebraska for giving me a few minutes today, and I also thank Dr. Barrasso. When he talks, I want to listen. I am so tempted to yield my time to him because he is so knowledgeable in this area. I do have a few things I want to say.
It occurs to me that after the vote tonight, what we should do is declare a recess for 2 weeks. We should take this bill out across our States and listen to the people. We should listen to the doctors, like Dr. Barrasso, who are on the front lines every day. We should listen to the nurses and hospital administrators and say: What do you think? I think we would get an earful.
I did four townhall meetings during the short recess around Veterans Day on health care issues. I have been all over the State of Nebraska. Let me tell you a story--and every single Senator can tell this same story. I visited a small hospital in our State, the critical access hospital--and Dr. Barrasso is familiar with these. Under Federal law, these hospitals are 25 beds or under. They are in our small communities, not only in Nebraska but all across America. They have no margin for error, because all they do is hospital services. They don't have an exercise program or whatever. It is hospital care they provide. I asked the same questions to those doctors and administrators. I would say: Let me ask you, first, could you run this hospital and keep it open on Medicaid reimbursements? It was 100 percent unanimous: We would go broke.
I asked a second question: Could you keep this hospital open on Medicaid and Medicare reimbursements? It was 100 percent unanimous. They say: No, we would go broke.
What does this bill do? It expands Medicaid. Fifteen million people will be added to Medicaid--the largest single expansion in Medicaid in the program's history. Nearly half of the reduction of the uninsured in this bill is due to moving people onto Medicaid, a program that if you had to live on those reimbursements, and you were a critical access hospital, you would close your doors. That is shocking to me. Who were they listening to when they wrote this bill? Why can't we take these staff people, who have been holed up in the majority leader's office for 6 weeks, to Nebraska or Wyoming or Oklahoma or Tennessee or Texas? It makes no sense to me.
I came here saying I was going to work to solve real problems for real people. We say that a lot out there. Let me give you a real people perspective about my State. Again, every Senator can tell this story. I was in a beautiful little community hospital--a critical access hospital, with 25 beds or less--in Valentine, NE, in a beautiful part of our State along the northern tier. It is a beautiful area, the Niobrara River Valley. There are great people there. It is off the interstate. It is a beautiful part of our country. Pick up a Nebraska map, because when I say this--if you look at the map, it will bring home what I am talking about. Between Chadron, NE, in the northwest part of the State, and O'Neill, NE, closer to the north central part of the State, lies Valentine. That little hospital in Valentine is the only hospital in that northern area that is providing deliveries for babies.
When you pass this bill and you expand Medicaid that they can't live on, and the reimbursement rates are disastrous for them--if you mess around with that hospital's ability to deliver babies, you have a crisis in the northern part of my State. You can tell that story over and over.
I wanted to talk about this last thing, and I will do it quickly, because other colleagues want to speak. As a former Governor, I dealt with Medicaid to try to balance the budget. I was the Governor in Nebraska post-9/11, when our economy and the Nation's economy tanked. We had to cut budgets over and over. My State of Nebraska just finished a special session. They cut about $300 million from the State budget. Four hundred people, the Associated Press reported, will lose their jobs because of these very difficult budget decisions.
Here is the point I want to make: When this is fully in effect, we will drop into the States--my State included--billions of dollars worth of unfunded mandates for Medicaid--billions of dollars in a program where already 35 to 40 percent of our doctors cannot afford to take Medicaid patients, and they are saying: We would go broke if we had to. We are adding insult to injury by telling our Governors they have to figure out that in addition to the historic problems they are having with their budgets, they have to deal with an unfunded mandate. In a moment of candor, one of my colleagues who worked on this for years said something when I asked: Why Medicaid? It is so problematic. Why all these millions on Medicaid? In a moment of candor he said to me: Because it makes the score look better.