Mr. President, I am going to be brief. I am going to yield to my colleague from South Carolina, and I think my colleague from South Dakota has a few comments. I want to respond to some of the points my colleague from Colorado made. First,…
Mr. President, I am going to be brief. I am going to yield to my colleague from South Carolina, and I think my colleague from South Dakota has a few comments.
I want to respond to some of the points my colleague from Colorado made. First, I want to thank him for bringing out our chart. What our chart illustrates is that every category of income earners in America gets a tax cut under our plan. If you look toward the left of the chart, you see that the biggest reductions go to the people in the
lowest income categories in a percentage term. My colleagues said percentages don't matter. I am a little bit confused because it seems to me that I think they do matter. I will give you an example.
Under our tax plan, our tax reform, and our working-class and middle- class tax cuts, the average single head of household--a single mom who, as head of household, has one child and earns the average income of $41,000, which doesn't make her a millionaire, or not typically, with $41,000--is going to have a $1,400 tax cut. That is a 75-percent tax cut for her. Now, maybe our colleague from Colorado thinks that percentage doesn't matter. I think it probably matters to her. A 75- percent reduction in the taxes that she has to pay probably matters to her. It is probably pretty helpful.
You could take the case of a family of four who earns the median national income. That is $73,000. On average, they will have a $2,200 tax cut. That is a 60-percent tax cut. So I am at a loss as to why that doesn't matter to that family. I think it matters a lot. I think that family can do a lot with that $2,200.
The fact is that our bill lowers taxes for every category of income earner, and the proportionate share is the greatest for the lowest income earners. This is good for working Americans and middle-class Americans.
I yield to my colleague from South Carolina.
Mr. President, how much time is remaining on the majority side?
OK. Thank you, Mr. President. I will be brief because I think my colleague from South Carolina has a comment he wants to make.
Let me respond just briefly to my colleague from my State of Pennsylvania. Our bill increases the child tax credit. Our bill lowers the tax burden on every category of income earners, including working families, middle-income families--every category.
As my colleague from Colorado demonstrated kindly, he showed in the chart that the biggest proportional savings go to the lower-income families, and the pro-growth policy is going to create more job opportunities at higher wages. So let's see: more money in child tax credit, less taxes owed on the part of families, more job opportunities, and higher wages. I think it is a pretty safe bet that this is good for kids. I think it is a pretty safe bet that when families get to keep more of their money, that is probably good for their kids. I think most of my constituents would probably agree with that.
We have heard folks on the other side suggest that we are actually not cutting taxes on the middle class. This is unfortunate because we have enough areas where we disagree without having to make up areas that aren't true. Our friends on the other side like higher taxes; we like lower taxes. They like to redistribute wealth; we like people who earn it to keep wealth. We focus on growing the economy; they want to grow government. We have honest differences in priorities, so I wish we would focus on where there are actual differences and the facts in question. But there is no question that we are lowering taxes on middle-income families because we are lowering taxes on every category of wages.
The people who are watching on C-SPAN and the people who are listening in the gallery must get a little frustrated and must ask themselves: Well, who can we believe? We hear one side say: This is lower taxes for working families. We have the other side say: Oh, it is higher taxes.
I have a suggestion. I know there is a solution. You could look it up at Joint Committee on Taxation, but that is tedious. You have to go to the website, you have to find it, and then you would see in the tables--because they are unambiguous--that taxes owed go down in every category.
Do you know when people are going to know for sure what the answer is? It is going to come in January when the withholding in their paycheck changes and when their take-home pay goes up because the taxes they owe go down. I know we are still a few weeks away from that, but when this passes and gets signed into law, the proof is going to be very clear, and people are going to see it.
Here is a quick word about the repeal of the individual mandate. My friend and colleague from Oregon described it. I am paraphrasing, but I think I will get it about right. He described the repeal of the individual mandate as driving a stake through the heart of ObamaCare or something equivalent to that. I couldn't help but think: What an incredibly damming indictment of ObamaCare. Think about what that means.
Think about what they are saying if repealing the individual mandate drives a stake through the heart of ObamaCare. The individual mandate is the provision which says that you have to buy this whether you want it or not. You have to. You are forced to. The government dictates the terms, the government effectively dictates prices, and you must buy it. If you don't, you will get hit with a penalty, a tax penalty.
We don't actually repeal the mandate, but we eliminate that tax penalty, and that is going to be very helpful for low- and middle- income families, working-class families. In Pennsylvania, 83 percent of all the people who get hit with this individual mandate tax live in a household with income of $50,000 or less. That is who is paying this.
But what I wanted to stress for a moment is what a damming indictment it is of ObamaCare that it only works, according to its proponents, if people are forced to buy the product. It is so badly designed, it is so terrible that people will not buy it voluntarily, despite huge subsidies.
We don't change any of the subsidies. They are all available to anyone who wants to participate. We don't change the rules. We don't change eligibility. We don't change anything except one thing. We say that if you decide this plan doesn't fit your family or if you decide for all the subsidies you get it is still not worth it for you to have this plan and you opt out, you will no longer be punished with this tax. That is the only thing we do in this bill.
Since we eliminate that coercion, which forces people to buy it, our colleagues on the other side say that drives a stake through the heart of ObamaCare. It seems to me that a product or a service that people have to be forced to buy and that is killed if they are not forced to buy it probably isn't a great deal for those people, and I think we just got that admission.
With that, I yield to my colleague from South Carolina.
Mr. President, I suggest the absence of a quorum.
I object.
Mr. President, two points I would like to address, and then we have other Republican colleagues who would like to use our time as well.
One, I want to address the comments made by my friend--and he is a friend of mine--the Senator from West Virginia. I have worked closely with Senator Manchin on a variety of pieces of legislation, some relatively ordinary and noncontroversial and others quite controversial. We have been through some battles together, Senator Manchin and I, and I enjoy working with him.
I hope he is going to support this product in the end. I am not sure he will, but he might--I don't know--and he probably has some good ideas he could bring to this.
Let me be very clear about the process we have used here. First of all, this legislation has gone through the regular order. It has gone through the committee. It was extensively debated in the committee. It was marked up in the committee. There were many dozens of amendments debated and voted on in the committee. The committee document, which is very similar to the final document we are going to vote on tonight, has been available for weeks.
Here is one of the problems we faced from the onset in this. Very early on in this process, the vast majority of our Democratic colleagues announced they wanted to leave the room with respect to a tax reform discussion. Now, as it happens, Senator Manchin was not among them, but 45 of the 48 Democratic Senators sent a public letter, and they stipulated the terms under which they would be willing to work with us on tax reform. One of the terms was that we had to use a process that could allow them to kill it by a filibuster, if they wanted to. That was one of their terms.
If they were going to participate in the process, they were demanding that we would have to empower them to kill the final product by a filibuster, if they wanted to.
Well, I just think that tax reform, tax relief for low- and middle- income families like we provide in this bill and the pro-growth policies through the reforms in this bill are too important to allow the minority to kill it by filibuster. It would have been malpractice on our part to allow that possibility, and so we didn't.
All that means is one thing. All it means is, the final passage on this legislation is not 60 votes, but it is 51. That is all. Any Democrat can offer any amendment. Any Democrat can join us in supporting this legislation. That was also true in committee, and it will be true right through the end of this process.
Our Democratic colleagues also had other stipulations in their letter. They said there can be no savings in the tax reform package for the people who pay 40 percent of all the taxes. It is actually really hard to do pro-growth, meaningful tax reform if you say the people who pay 40 percent of all the taxes must not be allowed to get any benefit whatsoever.
Another feature in their letter was that there could be no savings for the very substantial category of American businesses organized as what we call passthroughs--these are partnerships and subchapter S corporations--because under the stipulations in their public letter, there couldn't be any benefit at all to anyone whose income was in the top 1 percent. Well, there are a lot of passthroughs that have some ownership on the part of people who are in that income category.
My point is, they were systematically taking themselves out of the discussion from the very beginning. Despite that, we had an open process. We had unlimited amendments, and they participated in that process.
Now I would like to address the issue my colleague from Maryland raised, which is the deductibility of State and local taxes. I just want to say, for me, disallowing the deductibility of State and local taxes and offsetting that with lower income tax rates for everyone-- which is what we do in our bill, among other things--it is a matter of fairness. It is just a simple matter of fairness.
Under our current policy, which our Democratic colleagues would prefer we keep, the current policy of allowing people to deduct their State and local taxes and requiring higher Federal income taxes for all Americans as a result, that amounts to a subsidy that is paid by people in low-tax jurisdictions that gets sent to people in high-tax jurisdictions.
For the life of me, I don't understand why my constituents in Dauphin County, PA--a relatively lower tax place--should have to pay higher Federal income taxes so a very wealthy guy who owns a penthouse on the Upper West Side of Manhattan can deduct the very substantial taxes he chooses to pay because he lives in a very high-tax jurisdiction.
How is that fair that a person of much more modest means should have to subsidize a person of great means through the Tax Code? I don't think that is fair, but it is also unfair not just from one State to another but even within a State it is really not fair.
Let me illustrate my point with an example. Let's imagine you have two families who have the same financial circumstances. They are neighbors, but they happen to live on either side of a municipal boundary. One family lives on the side of a town that provides a lot of services and has high property taxes, which pays for the services. Maybe they pick up the trash. Maybe the town picks up the leaves. They provide lots of services. They have a nice community center. So the family has higher property taxes to pay for all of that.
Then the other family on the other side, in a different township right next door, they don't get their leaves picked up, they don't get the trash hauled away, they don't have a nice community center, but they have lower property taxes.
Now, the family who doesn't have all those services, they have to privately contract for those services. They have to go hire a company to take away their trash barrels. They have to hire a company to take away their leaves. They have to pay to join a gym or a recreational facility, and they don't get to deduct any of those expenses. They don't get to deduct the cost of paying someone to take their trash away or leaf removal or their membership at a local gym or facility like that.
So how is it fair that one person gets all of those services and gets to deduct the costs in the form of deducting the property taxes that pay for it, and the
other person, otherwise identically situated, does not get to deduct the cost? That just does not strike me as fair.
So all we are doing is saying: Let's be fair about this. Let's just be fair. Let's disallow that deduction. For the most part, we do preserve a portion of that, but the principle is to reduce the ability to deduct these taxes because it is more fair, and then what we can do as a result is we can lower the income tax rates paid by everyone.
I think that is a step in the direction of fairness, and it is one of the things that I think is a good feature in the bill.
I see my colleague the Senator from Montana is here so I will yield the floor to him.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that there now be 30 minutes, equally divided, for debate only, with no amendments or motions in order, and the majority leader be recognized at the conclusion of that time.
Mr. President, I want to talk about one of the truly pro- growth features in this tax reform that is going to encourage investment in the United States, new business creation, startup, expansion, and hiring that will be associated with that. That means new jobs, more demand for workers, and higher wages.
What am I referring to? I am referring to one of the things we do on the business side of this tax reform. The way I think about it, there are several big features that are going to drive economic growth on the business side of the Tax Code. One is certainly lowering the top rate from the 35 percent that makes us uncompetitive in the global economy to 20 percent, which puts us pretty close to dead even among our competitors. That is one. That is an important part.
The second one that I think is even more powerful is simply allowing businesses to recognize, for tax purposes, expenses when they actually occur. Allow businesses, when they buy equipment and put that equipment to work in a factory or when buying earth-moving equipment or new machinery, to recognize that cost when it occurs. By allowing them to recognize that cost when it occurs, they can afford to purchase more of that equipment.
Why is that important?
That is important because that is the source of enhanced worker productivity. Workers are more productive when they have machinery and equipment to work with. This is why capital drives productivity growth. It is the investment in that new equipment that creates demand for workers but also makes the worker more productive. The example I like to use that I think illustrates it reasonably well is this: If you go to a construction site and you have two guys working on that site and one of them is operating a backhoe and the other is using a shovel, they are both digging a hole; they are both moving dirt. Which one do you think gets paid more? It is not a close call. The
guy who is operating the backhoe is getting paid more on every such job site in America, not because there is a law that requires it but because he is a more productive worker. He has a skill set, and he is using major equipment that allows him to be much, much more productive than any human being can be with a simple hand tool. That is an illustration of how it is that when a company is able to put that equipment to work, the worker benefits.
That worker operator is not the only one who benefits, because somebody has to make the backhoe. Someone has to work at the factory that builds the backhoe that was bought. So what we are doing when we allow this expensing to occur--when we allow businesses, for tax purposes, to recognize the expense when it occurs rather than gradually over time, we simply make it more affordable for business to put capital to work, to buy the kind of equipment to help them grow and help them help their workers become more productive. That is why this is a very constructive, pro-growth feature in our tax reform that is going to be very, very helpful to workers.
But there is a third feature in our business tax reform that is also going to be great for America, and that is going to be our change from the current global tax system that we apply on the subsidiaries and affiliates of multinational companies--the change away from a global system to a territorial system. So what does that mean? So a global system is the system we have today, and America is unfortunately almost unique in the world in having this very counterproductive system.
Here is how it works. If a subsidiary of an American company goes overseas--say they go to England--and they open a business there because they want to serve the English population and they want to sell a product in England. So they go to England, they open their business, they make a profit, and they have to pay a tax to the English Government. That is normal. That is what any company operating there has to do.
What America does, what we do in our Tax Code that almost no one else does is, we say: After you have paid that tax to the English Government, if you would like to dividend that money back to your parent company so it can be invested back home in America, we are going to charge you another layer of tax. We are going to make sure the combination of what you pay there and what you bring back home hits 35 percent, which is our current rate. It is completely uncompetitive.
So, if you think about it, the rest of the world has a different system. They have the system which we know as a territorial system, and the idea there is the subsidiary in England pays its tax to the English Government and then whatever aftertax profit they choose to send home to their parent, if it is a French company or German company or a company somewhere else in the world, there is no additional tax layer.
So which country do you think has a competitive advantage doing business in England? Anyone other than the United States. This has been the very reason that you have seen these inversions, these American companies getting acquired by other companies. In many cases, it is not about the economics, it is not about synergies, it is because there is a tax advantage to having a multinational headquartered almost anywhere other than the United States. There are a lot of good jobs at a corporate headquarters. There is management and sales and finance and planning and all kinds of really good jobs. We are losing these systematically because we have this system that nobody else in the world has--almost nobody else has--that punishes companies when they bring that money back home.
So what are we going to do? We are going to change our system from one of the worst in the world to what I think is going to be one of the best. What we are going to do is we are going to say: Well, a company operating overseas has to pay that local tax, but we are not going to punish that company with another layer of tax when they bring that money back home to America and invest here. Most estimates of how much money--I should point out, you only get hit with that tax penalty if you bring that money home and reinvest it in America. That is how crazy this is. It is called the deferral system.
The common popular estimates by the economists who looked at this is that there are somewhere between $2 trillion, maybe even more than $3 trillion of earnings by the subsidiaries of American-based multinationals, where they have paid the tax overseas, as they must, but they refuse to bring the money back home because they don't want to get hit with this huge tax. So think about all this money that is overseas somewhere else and not being invested in America.
I have had conversations with CEOs who have told me they want to invest in the United States, but the tax makes it prohibitively expensive to bring it home, and therefore they are looking for opportunities overseas where they will not have this tax.
We have to end this and we are going to end this in this bill and that is going to put an end to the tax incentive for these inversions-- the movement overseas of corporate headquarters. It is going to make America a great place to invest and to headquarter a multinational company, and it is going to encourage that kind of growth. It is one of the central pillars of our business tax reform that is very constructive and very important.
I see my colleague from South Dakota is with us, and I will yield the floor now to him.
Mr. President, I would be happy to enlighten the Senator from Oregon. What my provision does is it applies to any college that chooses not to receive Federal funds under title IV, which is a very big category of funding for higher education. It is the provision that authorizes Federal financial student loan programs, for instance.
So the theory is, which you may or may not agree with, but the view is, if a college chooses to forgo Federal money and the students that attend have to find their own way to get there, it is diminishing the burden that college would otherwise impose on the
taxpayers, and so it is perfectly reasonable, in my view, to exempt such a college from the tax on endowments that we are applying generally. That is the answer to your question.
Mr. President, I think there are very few probably who choose now to forgo all of this taxpayer money, but any college in America that wanted to could do so. So any college that decided to adopt the policy I am alluding to here would choose to forgo the taxpayer money subsidizing their students and, if they choose to do that, then they wouldn't have to pay tax on their endowment. It would apply to any college that made the choice.
I believe that Hillsdale College would qualify for this, as would any other college that chooses to forgo title IV funding.
There are other colleges that choose to forgo the funding. I am not sure how many of them also have an endowment large enough at the moment that it would have an impact on them. I have no idea how long it might take them to develop an endowment. But the point is, anybody who is in this category would have this same treatment.
I do not.
The answer to your question is, I have no idea, and it doesn't matter.
I advocated this provision.
Are you finished with your question?
I will answer it again. You may choose to disagree, and that is fine. We can have our different opinions on this. But my view is, a college that chooses to say ``We don't want to take any Federal taxpayer dollars'' and therefore saves the taxpayer I don't know how many millions altogether--usually thousands per student--I think it is quite reasonable that a college that chooses to not put that imposition on the Federal taxpayers ought to be able to be exempt from this tax. It would be available to any college that made that choice. Several colleges in America make this choice, and any others that choose to would be able to participate.
The point is, the college that is qualifying for this is choosing not to impose a tax burden on the American taxpayer. They are not allowing their students to take the Federal taxpayer benefits that are available to them. They choose not to. They save taxpayers a tremendous amount of money when they make that choice. I think it is reasonable to allow them not to also have to pay this tax on their endowment.
I think people who give to the endowments are treated the same as people who give to any other endowment.
The criteria is, if the school chooses to save Federal taxpayers very substantial amounts of money by forgoing the title IV funds, then the school would not have to pay the tax.
And it is a completely irrelevant point. The fact is, the school is choosing to save the taxpayers a lot of money by forgoing money that would be available to its students. So it is very reasonable to have this modest savings that is available to a school that makes that choice and saves the taxpayers this money.
It is a universal provision available to any school that chooses to take it.
Yes.
I don't know the history of litigation against most colleges, including Hillsdale.
This is not my understanding. I do understand that my colleagues on the far left do not have a fond opinion of Hillsdale, but I do. I actually think it is a wonderful institution, and I commend them for their choice, as other colleges, of forgoing taxpayer money that they could be taking, the burden they could be imposing on taxpayers, but they choose not to. I think any college in that category, whether it is Hillsdale or any other college, ought not to have to pay the tax on the endowment.
Why would you choose to mischaracterize this provision the way you just did? You said it is for one college, and you know that is not true. This is criteria available to any college in America, and any college that takes it will get that benefit.
If my colleague doesn't like that provision, he can offer an amendment to strike it. This is a wide-open process.
Mr. President, the Senator from Oregon referred to many other deserving schools. I don't know which of them choose to forgo this taxpayer money, and if any of them do, then they qualify.
If you do not like the provision, you are free to offer an amendment to strike the provision. That would be my recommendation.
I made my recommendation. If you dislike the provision, you can offer an amendment.
Mr. President, I ask unanimous consent that there now be 30 minutes, equally divided, for debate only, with no amendments or motions in order, and that the majority leader be recognized at the conclusion of that time.
Mr. President, taking the time in opposition, first, I want to acknowledge that we share the goal of making the individual tax rates permanent, and I hope we will have an opportunity to do that, but, more importantly, I want to thank the Senator from Virginia for acknowledging and complimenting our work, acknowledging that we have cut taxes for working-class and middle-income families.
There are people who came down here during the course of the last couple of days suggesting that somehow wasn't true. I appreciate your honesty in acknowledging that we did, in fact, cut taxes for middle- income families, for working-class families, so much so, in fact, that you want to make our policy permanent, and I commend you for that. Unfortunately, you also added a huge tax increase on the very businesses that are going to help drive our growth.
By lowering our rate to 20 percent, which is what we do in our bill and which you would undermine, we would lose the opportunity to create new businesses, existing business growth, and the wage and job growth we want to drive.
I would suggest we work together on making our individual tax cuts permanent in the future, but I would urge my colleague to oppose this amendment in the current form.
Mr. President, the pending amendment No. 1846 offered by Senator Kaine has unknown budgetary effects. Therefore, I raise a point of order against this measure pursuant to section 4105 of H. Con. Res. 71, the concurrent resolution on the budget for fiscal year 2018.
Mr. President, Hillsdale College has been unfairly maligned on the Senate floor. The fact is, Hillsdale College was the first college in America to prohibit in its charter any discrimination based on race, religion, or sex and was an early force in the abolition of slavery.
But it is not really about Hillsdale college, exclusively. This is a broader idea. The idea here, and it is in this amendment, is that for any college that chooses to forgo Federal funding for its students-- chooses not to be a burden on the taxpayers that way--it is reasonable for us to respond by sparing that college a tax on the endowment fund. That is all.
Now there are colleges, a number of colleges, including one in Pennsylvania, that choose this mode. They
would prefer to have the freedom to operate as they see fit rather than have to deal with Federal regulations, and I suspect that is a big part of what the real problem is on the other side of the aisle. But, folks, I think it is a perfectly reasonable proposition that if a college chooses to forgo the very substantial funds available to it from Federal taxpayers, it is OK to say that it will be exempt from this endowment. So I urge my colleagues to vote no on the amendment.