Mr. Speaker, I thank you, and I thank my leadership on the Republican side for allowing me to control the time during this Special Order hour this evening. And surprise, surprise, we're going to be talking about health care reform. Mr.…
Mr. Speaker, I thank you, and I thank my leadership on the Republican side for allowing me to control the time during this Special Order hour this evening. And surprise, surprise, we're going to be talking about health care reform.
Mr. Speaker and my colleagues, we all know that this is something that has been on the front burner for the entire 7, 8, 9 months of this 111th Congress. It has certainly been a priority of the President; the President has said so on many occasions. In fact, President Obama indicated that reforming our health care system is the number one priority of his administration. First and foremost, it is the thing that he is willing to spend political capital, whatever it takes, to have comprehensive health care reform and to have it before the end of this first year of his first term.
I certainly can see that the President, Mr. Speaker, has followed through on that pledge. I personally feel that he has made a mistake on that. I don't think that the American people believe that fixing our health care system to the extent that we literally would throw out everything that we've got and let the Federal Government essentially take over lock, stock and barrel our health care system--which accounts for something like 16 percent of our total economy--at a time when our economy is literally, figuratively in the tank. We're sitting here with a 10.5 percent unemployment rate across the country and 15 million people out of work. It has even affected my own family very, very personally, one of my four children. They say, Mr. Speaker, that when your neighbors lose their job it's a recession, but when you lose your job all of a sudden it's a depression. I know that feeling right now, and a lot of people across this country know that feeling.
When we adjourned for the August recess, the District Work Period that's traditional in this Congress, all Members go back home, they may squeeze in a little family vacation, but you've got about a month, August, it has been traditional probably for 100 years that Congress has done that. And we got an earful, did we not, Mr. Speaker, during those 4 to 5 weeks of these town hall meetings that Members had all across the country? And by a factor of 10, the attendance had increased that much.
On a typical town hall meeting in my 11th District of Georgia in the nine counties I represent--and we would always try to have our town hall meetings at a time that was most convenient to our constituents, that would be easy for them to get to, maybe at a senior center, and try not to schedule it during suppertime or during prime time TV evenings--you might get 50 people on a good night, maybe 75 people when they were really ginned up about something.
Well, in my case, in the 11th of Georgia, we were getting 750 people, 1,100, 1,500--in one instance 2,000 in some of the town hall meetings we had. And we were seeing the same thing all across the country, whether they were Republican districts or Democratic districts. Mr. Speaker, what these constituents were saying--many of them, of course, were seniors--they're most concerned about the economy, of course, because they're on a fixed income. My mom is one of those. God bless my mom, Helen Gannon Gingrey, originally from Manhattan, New York City, but lived in the South most of her life. She is 91 years old now on a fixed income, relies on Social Security and Medicare and Medicare part B and part D. She's a little disappointed she's not going to get a COLA this year. But these folks showed up at these town hall meetings telling us, We don't want to pay for some new government-run health care system from A to Z that's going to be paid for on our backs. And what they're referring to, of course, is mostly the cuts, the deep cuts that the bills in the House and the Senate propose to take out of the hide of the Medicare program.
I'm going to be joined, Mr. Speaker, by a number of my Republican colleagues. In fact, tonight the participants in our hour are going to be for the most part the doctors on the Republican side. We have a caucus, a group that we call the GOP Doctors Caucus; there are about 15 of us in that group. We have a number of M.D. physicians. We have a doctor of psychology, we have a doctor of optometry, we have a couple of dental doctors, and people that have spent before coming to Congress--and some of us now have been here 8, 10, 15 years even, but before coming here our day job, if you will, our profession was delivering health care. We were health care providers.
We keep our licenses active, I think most of us do, and we keep up with medical issues, realizing, of course, that Congress is not necessarily forever, particularly young ones who may want to go back and go back into the practice of medicine. Those doctors will be with me tonight.
When I totaled up, I asked my colleagues, well, how long did you practice? Some of them are OB/GYN doctors, some of them are orthopedic surgeons. There is a gastroenterologist. There is a family practice, a couple of doctors do family practice, just all across the spectrum. In the aggregate, we probably have about 400 years of clinical experience. That says something about our age, Mr. Speaker.
But as an example, I spent 31 years, from the day I graduated from medical school, practicing medicine either as a family doctor in a small town or while I was in training during my internship and my residency and then 26 years of being a part of an OB/GYN group and delivering over 5,000 babies in my hometown, which became my adopted hometown. My hometown is Augusta, Georgia, but Marietta, Georgia, in Cobb County is where I now live and practiced for 26 years.
Mr. Speaker, we feel we have a lot to bring to the table. It's so disappointing we get to do these things at night--as I say, my colleagues will join me and I will yield to them when they arrive-- because this is our only opportunity. It's a shame we are in the minority. God forbid that it happens to the other side one of these days, and they will understand the feeling, but when you have got that knowledge of a particular profession, you would think, wouldn't you, that the Speaker of the House, the leadership, the minority side, both Chambers, they would open their arms and say, for goodness sakes, come on in here. Come on here behind this green door where we are trying to work out how we are going to do this health reform bill and tell us a little bit how it was when you were seeing patients and practicing and what were the things that would upset people about insurance, health insurance companies and denial of coverage or not being able to get insurance because of preexisting conditions. Also, Doctor, what do you think is causing the 10 percent, 12 percent rate of inflation in the cost of health insurance premiums year after year after year? Why is that?
Could it be this? I have heard some people say that maybe it's a medical malpractice issue and doctors ordering a lot of defensive unnecessary tests because they are afraid that if they are dragged into a court of law someone would say, well, you know, we have got, plaintiff's attorney, I have got this expert witness here from California. They will say, well, looking at the chart, I see where, Doc, you didn't order a fizzle phosphate level on this patient or some other esoteric test
that nobody has ever heard of and say, ah, you know, you are guilty of malpractice. Doctors order everything, almost to the point of the patient coming to the hospital, have blood drawn one day and becomes anemic the next morning for all the testing that's done.
Again, I bring up this point, Mr. Speaker, because we should be participating. We should be doing it on a bipartisan basis. If we would, if we had done it--and it's still not too late, my colleagues. It is still not too late. It's not soup yet. We have yet to vote on these bills that have come through committee on the House side or come through the committees on the Senate side. They haven't reached the floor of either Chamber. So there is plenty of time to amend, to start over. We don't need to rush it any more than we need to rush the decision to send the troops to Afghanistan.
The President, Mr. Speaker, made it very clear, as did his advisers and this administration, well, you know, you can't, you shouldn't knee- jerk now. I know what the General said. I know he said what his needs are, but we need to think about this. We need to get it right. It's better to get it right than to do it quickly.
Well, I sure wish they would take the same attitude toward reforming one-sixth of our economy, and I think that we could do that. There is no rush.
I will tell you where there is a rush though, Mr. Speaker. There is a rush in putting people back to work and stemming this tide of unemployment and all these jobs just disappearing and now 15 million people in this country out of work. That should be the President's number one priority.
But, anyway, we are going to talk about these issues tonight, and there are a lot of thoughts that my colleagues have, as I see them begin to join me. I am going to try to go in order of those that walked on the floor.
The first person that I am going to call on is our former majority whip, minority whip, someone who has been a part of the leadership with distinction on the Republican side of the aisle, and I am speaking of the gentleman from Missouri, Roy Blunt.
I yield to Mr. Blunt.
I appreciate the gentleman's comments.
I am sure the gentleman would agree with me that it's really disingenuous to take $500 billion out of the Medicare program over the next 10 years and then, at the same time, tell seniors that, oh, by the way, next year you are going to get to pay $110 a month for your Medicare part B--I think it's $98 a month, $98.50 now--and we are going to raise it to $110 a month at the same time that we are going to cut $500 billion out of the program.
I want to thank the gentleman from Missouri and thank the gentleman for his work in leading Leader Boehner's task force on health care reform on the Republican side.
My doctor colleagues that are with me tonight were a part of that small group of about 15. We worked on coming up with meaningful reform issues in an incremental way over the last several months. I think we had a good plan that we submitted to the President, Mr. Speaker, and we are still waiting to hear back from him on that, unfortunately.
Before I yield to my good friend from Louisiana, in fact, my two good friends from Louisiana--I am going to start with Dr. Cassidy, the gastroenterologist from Baton Rouge--I just want to say one thing. I have got this one poster. Dr. Murphy may have some other posters when he arrives, but we have a second opinion.
The GOP Doctors Caucus is the second opinion. The Republican minority, 178 of us, Mr. Speaker, we have a second opinion, and that second opinion is, no government-run health care.
We listened to our constituents during the August recess, and that is what they told us loud and clear. Somebody might dig up some ABC- Washington Post poll that says people want government-run health care. I would suggest, Mr. Speaker, to all of the Members on both sides of the aisle, go back and check with your constituents, like I did last night during a tele-town hall meeting, when all of the seniors were on the phone and said, Goodness gracious, Congressman, we don't need that.
I will make this point, and then yield to Dr. Cassidy. There has been so much gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands and pulling of hair over the last several months, Mr. Speaker, trying to say how are we going to pay for this thing? It is going to cost a minimum of $1 trillion. And then President Obama said, No, we are going to limit the expenditure to $900 billion, but we are going to pay for it all. I won't sign a bill that adds one dime to the deficit.
So, you figure out, well, we are going to tax here, we are going to tax there. We are going to take $500 billion out of Medicare, as the gentleman from Missouri just talked about, Medicare Advantage. We are going to gut that program. And, hey, we have come up with $900 billion and we are going to do this government-run health care. What in the world, Mr. Speaker, have we accomplished?
I want to use this analogy. It would be like a family 25 or 30 years ago scrimping and saving and cutting down on food and clothing and family vacation and college education for the children to save up enough money, and you finally save up enough money and you buy an Edsel.
My colleagues, I hope you all remember the Edsel. I am not knocking Ford Motor Company, but I think most of you are old enough to remember the Edsel. You saved up enough money, yes, you have sacrificed, and you bought an Edsel.
That is what it seems to me, Mr. Speaker, what the Speaker, Speaker Pelosi, and the leader, Leader Reid and the President and his advisers, many of them holdovers from the Clinton administration, that is what they are wanting us to do. They want us to buy an Edsel. I don't care whether it is paid for or not, it is a bad deal.
With that, I yield to my friend from Louisiana, Dr. Bill Cassidy.
Dr. Cassidy, if you will yield back to me and I will yield to our good friend from Shreveport. That, of course, is our family practice doc who spent many years, and he will tell us about that, seeing lots of patients in south Louisiana, Dr. John Fleming.
I do yield to Dr. Fleming at this time.
If the gentleman will yield for one second, Mr. Speaker, for clarification, that limitation based on that formula, Dr. Fleming, applies to the doctors, doesn't it, all the health care providers? This is not applicable to the hospitals. They are reimbursed under a different system.
Dr. Fleming, thank you for those comments. Before I yield one more time to Dr. Cassidy, just following through on this point that you are making, you may have mentioned one of the companies, Safeway and others who have testified up here--I don't know if they have been before the entire House or Senate, but certainly they have met with Members on our side of the aisle and explained some of the things that they're doing in regard to incentivize people to take care of themselves, to take better care of themselves, to realize there is a personal responsibility issue here. You pointed out in regard to smoking cessation, to not be using recreational drugs, to exercise on a regular basis. Certainly if you are overweight, particularly massively overweight, get on
a good program. In fact, some of these companies, Dr. Fleming, I think they have programs in-house where it's free, and these employees are incentivized by a reduction in their monthly premiums for health insurance, their copay, their deductible.
When we were marking up the bill, the health reform massive H.R. 3200, a 1,200-page bill in the Energy and Commerce Committee of the House of Representatives, we had an amendment on the Republican side of the aisle to actually expand this program that Safeway and others had initiated to allow even more incentives. You know, for the life of me, Mr. Speaker, I do not understand even to this day--and it's been 6 weeks ago July 30 that we passed the bill in the Energy and Commerce Committee--that amendment was voted down strictly on a party-line vote. Maybe one of these days they'll explain it to me. But to actually get healthier employees so there is less absenteeism, they have a longer work life, and to incentivize them with giving them monetary breaks in the cost of their health insurance, why in the world would we not want to do that?
Yes.
I thank the gentleman for yielding back. His final point was, give them the incentive when it really matters, not wait until it's too late.
With that, I will yield back to the gentleman from Baton Rouge, Dr. Cassidy.
I appreciate the gentleman for being with us. Mr. Speaker, I can't quote the chapter and verse, but obviously the gentleman's been reading the Good Book. It's somewhere in the Old Testament. I know about those wineskins as well, and I really appreciate his analogy and his great insight on health care reform.
We've been joined by another member of the GOP Doctors Caucus, and I will yield to him momentarily. But Mr. Speaker, as we heard from our colleagues from Louisiana--north Louisiana. I'll get that straight one of these days. Shreveport is not New Orleans. But they brought out some excellent points. There was some commentary about health savings accounts. I think most of our colleagues surely understand that program now, and maybe many of them--I bet many of them--I know that was the insurance plan that a lot of the doctors in Congress had when they were in practice, and Dr. Burgess may want to talk about that in just a minute when I yield to him. But a high deductible--in other words, you don't get first-dollar coverage on your health insurance. You have more out-of-pocket expense, but your monthly premium is much lower than your standard first-dollar coverage-type policy. I mean, it might be less expensive by a factor of four, and you can fund it by putting in money. Your employer can do that. You can do it yourself. Family members can do it and get a tax break from doing that. But up to the limit of your deductible, every year you can fund these plans, and for the out-of- pocket expenses, whether it's an annual physical or Lord knows if somebody breaks their ankle playing soccer or something, you know, you pay for that out of this health savings account. If at the end of the year you haven't spent all that money, and you don't have to get into the catastrophic coverage, then that rolls over to the next year. And if you take good care of yourself and you exercise personal responsibility, which does include exercise, maybe at the end of 20 years, a young person has an account that has enjoyed the miracle of compounding, and they may have accumulated $125,000 in an account by the time they are 65 and they're eligible for Medicare.
Mr. Speaker, these are great programs, and I, personally, would like to see them expanded. In fact, I would suggest that we could make some changes in the law in regard to COBRA, where if a person loses their job through no fault of their own, that they are able to continue to stay on the company group health plan, except they have to pay all of the premium, plus 2 percent administrative costs. They can do that for 18 months while they're trying to get another job and get other coverage. Well, most people when they're out of a job, they can't afford that. They can't afford to pay those premiums. So why not let them, during that 18-month period, switch
over to one of these health savings accounts that has a high deductible and a low monthly premium? This is an incremental thing that could be done and that Members on our side of the aisle have suggested. Just as we have a number of other incremental things, like equalizing the tax treatment, setting up State-administered high-risk pools, absolutely giving government subsidies to those who are low income but not low enough to be eligible for Medicaid or some other safety net program, let people buy insurance across State lines.
I live in Georgia. Why can't I shop on the Internet for a policy that's offered in Florida, South Carolina or Alabama, my neighboring States, that fits my needs better and is more cost effective, less expensive, something that I can afford? We have done all of these things, made these suggestions. And yes, also on the Republican side, Mr. Speaker, we have a number of comprehensive bills. Some of my colleagues on the floor tonight have written and introduced comprehensive health care reform that would be cheaper than what the Democrats want to do with H.R. 3200, with the majority in the Senate, with what they want to do, the bill that Senator Reid, the majority leader, is about to put on the Senate floor. But I would say that probably my colleagues on this side of the aisle would tell you in all honesty, yeah, we have better bills and they're less expensive, but you know what, we don't even recommend that we pass those right now when the unemployment rate is over 10 percent and the economy is in the tank, people are suffering, and 15 million have lost their jobs. We might want to do it next year or the year after that. Eventually we'll do it--probably better in an incremental way--but it is not the number one priority of the Republican Party to totally reform our health care system, throw out the baby with the bath water, spend $1.5 trillion and have the economy get worse and more and more people lose their job. This is not the number one priority.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I want to yield to my OB/GYN colleague and classmate, someone who I am proud to serve with on the Energy and Commerce Committee, Michael Burgess, an OB/GYN doctor from the Dallas- Fort Worth area, a great Member.
I thank the gentleman from Texas for yielding back, and I thank him for his comments.
Mr. Speaker, I'm going to yield the remaining time that we have. I wish we had more. When you're having fun, it goes fast. We've been joined by my cochairman of the GOP Doctors Caucus, clinical psychologist Dr. Tim Murphy from Pennsylvania. He is my classmate and is president of our class. He is going to take the rest of the time. Dr. Murphy served with me--or I should say I served with him on the Energy and Commerce Committee, and I'm proud to yield time and the concluding remarks to Dr. Tim Murphy.
Dr. Murphy, thank you so much.
I failed to mention to my colleagues, Mr. Speaker, that Dr. Murphy is also an author, and has written a number of books on child psychology, and he knows of what he speaks.
I think the theme tonight, Mr. Speaker, is to try to present Members who are knowledgeable on the subject matter. If we were talking about the law, if we were talking about national defense, there would be the people like Joe Sestak and Colonel John Kline on our side of the aisle. You'd listen to those folks. I hope that our colleagues will understand that we're trying to do this in a bipartisan way to help impart knowledge. Knowledge is power, and we hope and pray every day that God will give us all wisdom and that we'll make the right decisions and that we'll reform our health care in a way that doesn't destroy what really is the best health care system in the world.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I thank you for the time. I yield back.