Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to join both of my colleagues, the gentleman from Texas, Judge Carter, who is managing the hour with the gentleman from California that you just heard from, Mr. Speaker, my colleague, Representative…
Mr. Speaker, it is a pleasure to join both of my colleagues, the gentleman from Texas, Judge Carter, who is managing the hour with the gentleman from California that you just heard from, Mr. Speaker, my colleague, Representative Rohrabacher, who very passionately explained what the issue is.
You know, and again, I think as I represent the 640,000 or so constituents of the 11th District of Georgia, West Georgia, great, great people. And when I go home, and I am sure Representatives Carter and Rohrabacher are hearing the same thing from their constituents, they say and I agree, that this is a country of law abiding people.
And we have to have respect for the rule of law. I was real interested, Mr. Speaker, this weekend on one of the Sunday morning news shows, one of our colleagues, in fact, indeed one of my colleagues from Georgia, Representative Norwood, who is such a great spokesperson on this issue was debating one of the Senators who happened also to be from the Southeast, in regard to the Senate bill versus the Sensenbrenner, very sensible, as the name would have it, the legislation that we passed in the House before the first of the year that emphasizes border security and border security first.
And that is what my colleagues were speaking about before me, that there is all of this talk about, you know, what to do with 11 or 12 million people who are in this country illegally, and what to do about the fact that there are certain sectors of our economy that are dependent on a lot of foreign workers.
Unfortunately, a lot of those foreign workers are among the 11 or 12 million that are here illegally. So maybe we need a temporary worker program. I
agree with my colleague who just spoke that if the pay and benefit package and health care and these things that go with those jobs were a decent wage, I think in some instances, Mr. Speaker, they are, but in some instances, maybe far too many, they are not.
If they were, then there are plenty of legal aliens, legal immigrants, United States citizens who are out of work today who would take those jobs. Now, everybody says, well, golly, we have this low unemployment rate of 4.5 percent. Well, that is 4.5 percent of people without jobs. Until it gets to zero percent, I cannot really see where we necessarily need a temporary worker program.
But what I was saying about that program, Mr. Speaker, that television news show this past Sunday morning, we are talking about the rule of law. The Senator incredulously said, well, the law is okay as long as it is a ``just law''. You know, that is just shocking to me. I do not know what the Senator's occupation is or profession, I know there is a lot of lawyers over there in the other body. But our laws are our laws. If they are not just laws, we have a way in this chamber and that chamber to change those laws, because after all we are the ones that make them.
If they are not just laws, then we change them, and we do it in the right way. We do not just ignore it, if we do not like the law. There are lots of laws that I do not like. But by golly I abide by them, whether I am on this Hill, inside the Beltway, or back home in Georgia. And that is the way my constituents feel, and that is the way my colleagues who are sharing this hour with me feel.
I am dead set with them on securing our borders first and foremost. The President spoke to the Nation the other night, Mr. Speaker, talked about putting some National Guard troops, 6,000 I think he said on a temporary basis, to sort of back up the Border Patrol. We have got what 10,000 or 12,000 U.S. Border Patrol agents on the southern border.
I think we need more. I think my colleague, Mr. Norwood, on Sunday morning said maybe we need 30,000. But at least we need 18,000 or 20,000. And we are going to get there. And we are going to, according to the House version of immigration reform to secure the border, we are going to build facilities and have more bed space so that we can retain these illegal immigrants that are referred to as OTM, that acronym that stands for Other Than Mexicans, that we have been catching and releasing in that catch-and-release program.
I think the whole point here is history: if you do not pay attention to it, you are going to repeat it; and you are going to make the same mistakes over and over again if you do not learn from the past. We can go back; my colleagues have probably already done that in the earlier part of the aisle. I may have missed part of that discussion, but that Bracero program that we had from 1942 to the 60s, dismal failure. That was a temporary worker program. Dismal failure. And then our great communicator and one of my very favorite all-time Presidents, Ronald Reagan, in the Immigration Reform Act of 1986, an amnesty, really pretty much a blanket amnesty for 3 million people.
Now, that would probably have been okay 19 years ago if we had secured our borders, but we didn't. There was no border security that went along with that as a companion. And we estimate and, Mr. Speaker, do not take my word for it, this is a CRS report that I am reading in front of me dated May 15, 2006. That is pretty darn recent, I think. It is talking about the fact that there probably are today 11 to 12 million illegal aliens in this country. If you do the math, that is about 500,000 a year that are coming through that border which is nothing but a sieve, and that hemorrhaging continues. And if we grant any kind of amnesty program today and we do not secure that border, you do the math. In 20 years from now, we will be talking about 35 or 40 million illegal immigrants, illegal aliens in this country.
My colleagues talked about the stress that that puts on public education, on our health care system. The fact that we do not know really that these, hopefully the majority are law abiding. I think they are, but in this day and time after 9/11 and with the threat of a global terrorism, how do you know who is coming in this country? Are they all coming to work? Absolutely not. Some are members of gangs. Some are involved in drug trade. So it is absolutely imperative.
I commend Chairman Sensenbrenner, Mr. Speaker, and I commend my House colleagues. I commend the Speaker, the majority leader, this Republican majority in this body, this House of Representatives for doing what we did. In fact, the first bill we passed was the REAL ID Act and that was in complete and total lockstep response to what the 9/11 Commission asked us to do in regard to driver's licenses and this abuse of the claim of asylum, to be able to in an expedited fashion to get rid of someone who was allowed to come in this country and then was involved in terrorist activity. So these things are so important.
I just thank my colleague, my good friend, classmate from Texas, Mr. Carter, for letting me come and just share a little bit of time with him because we are compassionate. Everybody talks about the President and his great compassion. I do not doubt that. I think he does have great compassion. But I think if he wants to insist on granting an amnesty program that even comes close to what is happening in 1986, he is dead wrong on this issue.
I want to work with employers and I think in the House bill we do that. We are going to provide a biometric tamper-proof identification card so when we get this combined program done, and we do not have to do it all in the next 2 weeks, and I think if we can get the Senate to agree as my great colleague and Senator from Georgia, Johnny Isakson said, let's get the border secured first. We can do the rest of this stuff, which is in my opinion sort of cosmetic surgery, once you stop the hemorrhaging.
If we go back and look at a temporary worker program and what to do with the 11 million that are here illegally, I personally think, yes, they should pay back taxes, pay a fine, pass a criminal background check and then be notified that they have got about a year to make arrangements to go back home, to go to the border and then get in one of three lines.
One line would be to stay home, decide that they want to stay in their country of origin. The second line would be the temporary worker program. We could even give those who have been in this country for more than 5 years working and passing all those litmus tests, good people, we could put them in the front of the temporary worker line; or if they wanted to come back in this country as permanent legal residents and get on a track to citizenship, then they could get in that line.
Maybe it is too simple. Maybe I am a simple kind of guy. That is the way I see it.
I want to thank the judge for taking the time tonight and giving me a chance to share my thoughts with my colleagues.