Mr. Chairman, at this time I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Fossella). Mr. Chairman, at this time I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Tim Murphy). Mr. Chairman, at this time I reserve the balance…
Mr. Chairman, at this time I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from New York (Mr. Fossella).
Mr. Chairman, at this time I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Pennsylvania (Mr. Tim Murphy).
Mr. Chairman, at this time I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, at this time I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. Shays).
Mr. Chairman, at this time we will continue to reserve the balance of our time.
Mr. Chairman, at this time I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from Washington (Mrs. McMorris Rodgers).
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Let me just compare where we are today in Pell Grants versus where we were in 2000 when I was elected to show you why I have so much optimism about the good things being done in this bill and others.
In 2000, there were 3.9 million students getting Pell Grants. This year, 5\1/2\ million students are getting Pell Grants. In 2000, the maximum award was $3,300 per student. This year, it is about 4,800 per student, and based on the College Cost Reduction and Access Act that President Bush signed into law in September, it is going to go up to $5,400 in the next couple years. In 2000, our overall Pell Grant funding was $7.6 billion. Now it is double that amount.
We have made a substantial investment in the lives of these young people to make sure that every single child in America, rich or poor, has the opportunity to get a college education. We have reason for optimism. We are working together in a bipartisan manner on these higher education issues, and I urge my colleagues to support this legislation.
I reserve the balance of my time.
I thank the gentleman for yielding.
Madam Chairman, I know what Mr. Davis is trying to do here, and I'm sympathetic. He realizes, like we all do, that people are hurting and they're paying higher costs for mortgages and health insurance and gas prices and college tuition. And so for those folks who can't make their student loan payments, let's give them some relief in bankruptcy court. The challenge is, this is going to help a small number of people, but hurt a larger number of people.
If you allow this to go forward, then what you have is a much higher risk loan that will result in the lenders having no choice but to charge higher interest rates for new students getting loans, higher origination fees. They will require a higher credit score. Now, since most 18-year-old kids don't have good credit scores, you would have to look to their parents as cosigners. What does that mean? The kids from wealthy families, whose mom and dad have a high credit score and have lots of assets to back up as collateral, nice home, Mercedes, are going to get student loans. The poor kids in the future who you're trying to help whose parents don't have a high credit score are going to have to pay a lot higher interest rate for loans and origination fees. And their mom and dad may not have the collateral to get them a loan if that's required in these private loans.
So it's going to have the unintended consequences of restricting credit in the future. It's also very unfair to lenders who made loans 10 years ago to have this applied retroactively.
Now, what is a better way? The better way is the current system. You get out of school, you've got 10 years to make your payment, and if you can't make it, you work with the lenders for more flexible options, let you pay over 25 years. The Bankruptcy Code already provides a provision for undue hardship for those people who truly need it.
Let's go with the better approach. And that's why it would have been better to have the Judiciary Committee have jurisdiction over this issue, because we could have flushed it out. That was skipped in this process. And while the intentions are good, the consequences are bad. And I urge my colleagues to vote ``no'' on Mr. Davis' amendment.
Madam Chairman, I rise to claim the time in opposition.
Madam Chairman, I claim the time in opposition, although I'm not opposed to the amendment. I don't have any objection to it. But at this time I would like to reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I would like to yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Price).
Madam Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time
Madam Chairman, I rise to claim the time in opposition.
Madam Chairman, I claim the time in opposition, although I am not personally opposed to this amendment.
I just want to briefly address the subject matter of articulations and the free flow of credit. And while that's important, many people listening to us, our colleagues, may not be familiar with the term ``articulation agreements'' if they do not serve on the Education Committee, for example. Let me give them an idea of what that is.
If you go to a community college in my district, let's say one called Valencia Community College, and you get your associate's degree, there is an articulation agreement that exists with the local 4-year university that's called the University of Central Florida. That agreement says if you graduate from Valencia Community College, we guarantee you admission and acceptance into our 4-year university. That is a wonderful thing for low-income kids who want to get a 4-year education, because it only costs 2 grand a year to go to this community college, and you know that based on this articulation agreement and the transfer of credits you will then go to a prestigious 4-year school for an additional 2 years and be guaranteed admission. It's really the only silver bullet I see out there right now at a time when we see the public 4-year universities increasing their tuition by 31 percent over the past 5 years. The one bright spot that exists is so many partnerships that exist between community colleges and 4-year schools in the forms of articulation agreements.
Whatever we can do in Congress to make it easier to have more of these articulation agreements and a freer
flow of transfer of credit can only help those children from low- and moderate-income families achieve their dream of a college education. That's why I am going to support this amendment, and I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to support it as well.
Madam Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I rise to claim the time in opposition.
Madam Chairman, I claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to this amendment.
Let me just clarify for our colleagues what this amendment is about, at least from my perspective.
If you are a high school special education teacher, you are probably familiar with autism and dyslexia, and by virtue of your training and daily experience, you know how to relate to the children with these special needs pretty well. But what if you are a 10th grade history teacher trained in, obviously, teaching history? It may be a little more challenging for you to teach children who have autism or dyslexia unless you have some special training to help you teach them history. So what this amendment does is to provide funding for these general education teachers to partner up with their 4-year universities to get some extra training in teaching children with special needs.
That seems like a commonsense approach to us. So I will be voting for this amendment and urge my colleagues to do the same.
Madam Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I claim the time in opposition.
Thank you, Madam Chairman.
I claim the time in opposition although I am not opposed to this amendment. We have seen a skyrocketing problem, at least in my home State of Florida, with the rise in violent juvenile crime. In my area, central Florida, we have seen juvenile robberies over the past 2 years of kids of 15 and under increase by 311 percent.
When I talk with the experts about this problem, I am told that we do need a holistic approach, as my colleague, Congressman Hastings, says; and that for the worst of the worst offenders, the repeat violent offenders, people who slit other kids' throats, you have got to lock them away. But on the front end when you can still have hope to catch some of these kids and turn them around, we have to make every effort to do it.
The reason I say that is because when we look at the statistics in Florida we find that 80 percent of the inmates in our jails and prisons are high school dropouts. If we deal with them holistically, we say, hey, if you're going to stay in school, we will give you a Pell grant to pay for a college education so you can have a nice car and a home. If you are willing to stay in school but you can't read, we will get you a reading coach to help you read, even if you are in high school. We are going to get you a mentor to get you through it.
We have to give these young people hope in educational and job opportunities and approach it holistically. Yes, that means prevention, but you also need tough enforcement. I think this amendment recognizes you need all of it. And so we are pleased to support this amendment. I urge my colleagues to do the same.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Madam Chairman, one of the most frustrating things that Members of Congress have had to deal with over the past 5 years on a bipartisan basis is the skyrocketing cost of tuition. Over the past 5 years, tuition at public 4-year universities has gone up 31 percent. And we are frustrated because you want to rein in the tuition costs, but at the same time you are hesitant to implement any sort of cost control or micromanaging of these universities.
What this amendment says essentially is that we are going to ask the college to tell us what your endowment is and how much of it you spent on helping kids with their aid to go to your college. Sometimes that will mean that gives us an opportunity to really thank these colleges for doing a great job. For example, Harvard University has a $34 billion endowment. They recently received nationwide publicity, well deserved, for using that endowment to say, if you are accepted to Harvard and you are from a low-income family, we are going to use our endowment to pay for you to come here. If you are from a middle income family, we are going to pay for you to come here. If you are from an upper-middle-income family, all the way up to
$180,000, we are still going to help you with tuition. I think that is wonderful. And you have seen other schools, Yale and others, follow suit.
We would like to see exactly what schools across America are doing on the positive front to use their endowment to help low- and moderate- income kids go to college, and on the flip side what schools with substantial endowments are not making any efforts to help these low- and moderate-income kids get a college education.
So for these reasons, I will be voting for this amendment, and I will urge my colleagues to also vote for the amendment.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Madam Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Alaska (Mr. Young).
Madam Chairman, I just want to thank Congresswoman Johnson and Congressman Young for offering this wonderful amendment. This will mean that the 2,100 children of parents who died in Iraq or Afghanistan will be able to get the full Pell Grant, which is about $4,800 this year and will be upped to $5,400 by 2012. It is certainly the least we can do.
There are many more things we want to do beyond this to help these children whose parents paid the ultimate sacrifice. But I think it is wonderful that these two Congressmen have come forward with this very commonsense and important amendment. I enthusiastically support it and urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to support it as well.
Madam Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Madam Chairman, we want the best and the brightest to go into the inner city, low-income areas to give these young people as much hope and opportunity as we can. Right now, we already provide student loan relief for math and science teachers who are willing to go
into these low income areas to help turn around a school.
When I look at Mr. Stupak's amendment, it reminds me of the movie ``Lean on Me,'' where it has a principal who goes into a low-income area and, against all odds, completely turns around the school.
We want the best and the brightest of our assistant principals, principals, and school superintendents to go into these areas and say, Hey, look at all these young people who are taking AP calculus and AP English, and we are excited, and we turned things around.
The more we can do to get the best and the brightest into these inner city areas, then the better these young people's lives will be. So I am happy for those reasons to support this amendment, and I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to do the same.
Madam Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Madam Chairman, at this time I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from North Carolina (Mr. Hayes).
Madam Chairman, I also rise in support of this amendment, which will encourage the prepopulation of the FAFSA income and asset information with tax data provided directly from the IRS to the Department of Education, if done by taxpayer consent.
In a nutshell, this amendment will greatly simplify the financial aid process and help to eliminate erroneous payments under the Pell Grant program. By taking these commonsense steps, it is estimated that the Federal Government would save billions of dollars over the next 5 years, which could go toward providing additional Pell Grant aid to our most disadvantaged students.
For all of these reasons, I urge its adoption and yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Madam Chairman, we have no objections to this amendment, will be voting ``yes.'' I urge my colleagues to do the same, and I yield back the balance of my time.
Madam Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Madam Chairman, this is a very creative outside-the-box way to provide an incentive to recruit mentors for at- risk kids, and I commend the author of this amendment, Congressman Crowley, for coming up with this idea; and I will be voting for it.
I had a mentor myself when I was a young child in Big Brothers Big Sisters program. When I got a little older and became an adult, I became a mentor to high school students through the largest mentoring program in Orlando, Florida, called Compact, which provides mentors to children who are at risk of dropping out of school.
I then became chairman of the board of that organization; chairman of the Mentoring Caucus, once I got to Congress; and a coauthor of the Mentoring for Success Act with Congressman Tom Osborne, which is now part of No Child Left Behind.
I tell you this by way of background, because I know that the hardest thing in mentoring organizations is recruiting mentors. I gave in 1 year 50 speeches to Rotary clubs and Kiwanis clubs to recruit 700 mentors, and it was very difficult because sometimes you only get folks to mentor for 1 year. But I saw that once you invested the time towards recruitment, it made a difference. That program, Compact, has a 95 percent success rate in keeping kids in school. As Congressman Crowley alluded to, that helps all of us in terms of lower incarceration rates. Right now, 75 percent of the inmates in our jails and prisons nationwide are high school dropouts. State prisons cost taxpayers $20,000 a year; Federal prisons, $25,000 a year.
If we can say to community college students, Hey, we want you to do the right thing by providing an hour a week as a mentor, or more, and by the way, if you do, we will help you financially for $10 an hour for every hour you mentor for a year, that creates a pretty good pool of folks that we can look to to do the right thing and have a financial incentive.
I congratulate you for this innovative approach. I never thought of it, but am impressed with it, and will be voting for it. I urge my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to vote for it as well.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Delaware (Mr. Castle).
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the gentleman from Delaware (Mr. Castle).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself as much time as I may consume.
I also will be supporting the Ryan-Altmire amendment. I am not so far removed from college and law school that I don't remember the days when you would go to buy your textbook at the bookstore. Often you'd be required to buy a particular textbook written by that professor and get sticker shock that this particular book is $120.
When you talk to the publisher, sometimes they say, well, it's not our fault. We sold it to the bookstore at 60 bucks and they marked it up to 120 bucks. And when you talk to the bookstore people they said, no, it's their fault because they told us an abnormally low suggested retail price and made us look bad.
I don't know whose fault it is. All I know is we've got to get some relief to these college and law school and graduate students who are forced to buy particular books. This seems to at least try, and whatever we can do to try to help these kids who are spending $900 to $2,000 a year we owe it to them to do. So I urge my colleagues to vote ``yes'' on this bill.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of our time.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the coauthor of this amendment, the gentleman from Delaware (Mr. Castle).
Mr. Chairman, at this time I'd like to yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Regula).
Mr. Chairman, I urge my colleagues to vote ``yes'' on this amendment and yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to claim the time in opposition, although I am not opposed to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, we have no objections to the amendment.
I yield back the balance of my time.