An Interview On What The Congressional Class Of 1974 Can Teach Us About Political Change
Mr. Speaker, I rise today at the request of Mr. John Lawrence. Before this most recent election, Mr. Lawrence wrote a book about what the Congressional Class of 1974 can teach the incoming Congressional Class. As a member of that class…
Mr. Speaker, I rise today at the request of Mr. John Lawrence. Before this most recent election, Mr. Lawrence wrote a book about what the Congressional Class of 1974 can teach the incoming Congressional Class. As a member of that class myself, I'm sure others will find this interview and the book it's about as interesting as I did.
The Watergate Babies
(Claire Potter and John Lawrence)
It is less than ninety days until Election. Day in the
United States, when Democrats hope to achieve one of the
biggest sweeps of Congressional seats in recent American
history. Many of these Democratic hopefuls are veterans. As
longtime political strategist Joe Trippi put it back in
March, these are candidates who are new to the electoral
arena, people who ``served the country without worrying about
who's a Democrat and who's a Republican'' and just want to
``get the damn thing done.'' And a record-breaking 40% of the
Democratic House candidates this primary season are women,
some of them veterans as well.
If the Democrats' hopes are fulfilled, will this be
unprecedented? Not really. On July 24 2018, we published an
excerpt from a book written by historian John Lawrence,
former chief of staff for Speaker Nancy Pelosi. In The Class
of '74: Congress after Watergate and the Roots of
Partisanship (Johns Hopkins, 2018), Lawrence tracks this
earlier revolution, its achievements, and its flaws.
John sat down to talk to us about the book this week, and
its implications for our current political situation.
Claire Potter: John, thanks for joining us at Public
Seminar. You were trained as a professional historian, and
then went into politics, a career path that, as you noted in
this essay, mystified your advisors at Berkeley. First, I
want to ask you: how did a Ph.D. in history prepare you for a
career that eventually led you to becoming Speaker of the
House Nancy Pelosi's chief of staff?
John Lawrence: Many of the people working on Capitol Hill
in key policy and management roles have legal training or
campaign experience. Both are valuable, but don't train
people to contextualize current issues into a broader
narrative. Training in history provided that skill,
particularly research methodology and, perhaps most
significantly, writing skills. Politics is often a very
presentist business. While attorneys certainly are aware of
judicial and legal precedents, historians have the ability to
view contemporary debates through a unique prism that helps
explain the evolution and nature of complex issues.
CP: OK, now I want to turn that question around. How did
your work in politics support the writing of The Class of
'74? What did you bring to writing this book that a scholar
who has not spent 38 years working in the House of
Representatives would not have?
JL: Politics is an intensely personal business. Working in
Congress for nearly four decades enabled me to develop close
relationships with dozens of members, staff, reporters and
others whose decisions shape the making of public policy and
the design of political strategies and campaigns. These
connections enabled me to gather material for The Class of
'74 that, I have no doubt, would have been impossible for a
researcher without my experience.
Many who write about Congress without this personal
connection often miss the nuances of why legislators make
certain decisions because motivations can be tied to personal
relationships and other factors that are difficult to
quantify. I think this is why political scientists, in
particular, who frequently eschew the narrative in favor of
data analysis of voting patterns, often miss much of what
really explains how Congress, and politics more broadly,
works.
CP: Thanks. Now let's get to the book-prior to 1974, the
mood in Congress was changing, and not just because of
Watergate. Reflecting some of the disdain for authority that
was moving politics in the street, younger Representatives
were pushing back against the way the institution ran. What
were the issues?
JL: Certainly, the most significant stimulus to the
changing mood in Congress was Vietnam. The war was important
on many levels: the reassertion of congressional prerogatives
against the Imperial Presidency that developed and promoted
the war; the rise in the use of oversight to challenge
official accounts of the status of the war; the resistance to
the draft; the emergence of an investigative, aggressive
journalism that often worked collaboratively with dissidents
in Congress.
There were other issues that raised passionate concerns
among newer members of Congress too: civil rights, women's
equality, the environment, energy policy, consumer
protection, among them. Within Congress, reformers also
resented the structure of the institution. Power was lodged
largely in autonomous chairmen who did not need to be
responsive to the views of the broader membership because
their chairmanships were virtually guaranteed by the
seniority system--instituted after the 1910 revolt against
Speaker Joseph Cannon. Increasingly in the late 1960s and
early 1970s, it became evident to the younger reformers that
it was essential to challenge the awarding of chairmanships
on the basis of duration of service alone. If chairmen did
not have to be responsive to the broader membership, then the
issues that the younger, more progressive, cohort wished to
elevate could be (and often were) suppressed by more
conservative chairs.
CP: In 1974, in a far bigger sweep than was anticipated, 76
Democrats were elected to the House, 49 replacing Republican
incumbents. What set the stage for this colossal shift in
power?
JL: Longstanding disapproval of the Vietnam policy played a
significant role in encouraging reformers to run and in their
winning. So, too, did the recent oil embargo which had
elevated public anxiety and accentuated the need for a
national energy policy. By 1974, Watergate, with all of its
turmoil within the Executive Branch and Congress, as well,
helped create a demand for reform of what was viewed as a
corrupt White House. Certainly, the revelation of the Nixon
tapes and Nixon's subsequent resignation complicated the re-
election of many loyalists who had stood by the President as
the crisis deepened.
President Ford's pardon of Nixon, coming just weeks before
the election, further cemented the idea that corruption was
rampant in Washington and a housecleaning was in order.
Lastly, the continuing poor economy, and the ineffectual
response of the Ford Administration--the Whip Inflation Now
campaign--created a toxic political environment for many
Republicans: corruption, recession, energy disruptions and
price hikes. The climate was perfect for new, optimistic,
earnest young candidates like the Class of '74.
CP: Sounds like a perfect political storm. Vietnam was
obviously huge, as was inflation that would soon push the
American economy into a real crisis. What were the other
concerns these ``Watergate babies'' had in common--and what
policy problems divided them?
JL: The issues around which the Class of '74 were most
united were the internal reforms that disseminated power in
Congress. The changes they made, effectuated in December,
1974, gave heightened power to the Caucus and strengthened
the role of subcommittees on which freshmen and other
reformers enjoyed disproportionate strength, enabling them to
raise and promote issues. These changes benefitted all new
members by increasing their participatory rights, regardless
of their ideology or view on specific issues.
When the freshmen were faced with policy questions where
their constituents had particular interests, or where
constituents had strongly held views--issues like abortion,
school busing, labor law and energy--the unanimity within the
freshmen caucus proved somewhat more difficult to maintain.
However, it should be noted that overall, the freshmen not
only voted with significant consistency but they were also
among the most loyal to the Democratic leadership's
positions.
CP: 1974 was also, in some ways, the twilight of Republican
liberalism: you point out in the book that while many
Republicans shared the majority's ``goal of democratizing
House procedures,'' their ``objectives were quite
different.'' Can you describe these differences?
JL: Newer members in both parties stood to gain from
changes that extended greater participation to those with
less seniority. And Republicans in general were supportive of
reforms that not only benefitted the minority (for example,
the ability to hire more staff on committees) but members in
general. Whereas Democratic freshmen used expanded rights to
raise issues and offer amendments in committee and on the
floor to promote more progressive ideas, Republicans
increasingly became skilled at exploiting the more open rules
to force less secure Democrats into casting controversial
votes that could render them vulnerable to political
challenge.
Similarly, Republicans very successfully learned to utilize
the coverage of committee and floor proceedings by television
cameras to send messages to supporters and to raise issues
that favored GOP policies. When Democrats rescinded some
reforms that constrained the ability of Republicans to
exploit divisive issues, strategists like Newt Gingrich were
able to make a case against the majority for being heavy-
handed and unfair, which they cited as justifying a change in
control of the House.
CP: By the late 1970s, the political terrain in the United
States was quite different: what changed in the 1970s, and
how did that set the stage for the polarized politics of the
21st century?
JL: The signs of a more polarized politics were developing
quite markedly in the mid-to-late 1970s, although many date
the emergence of a revitalized conservatism to the 1980 and
the Reagan Era. Many of the key changes were driven by
demographics, especially the movement of many conservative
white voters from the Northeast and Midwest to the border and
southern states in search of jobs. Reaction to the civil
rights movement, the anti-Vietnam and student protests and
the whole litany of ``sex, drugs and rock-and-roll'' cultural
divisions all
helped fuel a revitalization of the long-dormant Republican
Party in the South, especially after the George Wallace
campaign of 1968 convinced many conservatives to bolt from
the Democratic Party.
The renewal of southern Republicans was also aided by a
highly politicized evangelicism, and cultural issues proved
crucial to the success of this strategy. Changes in federal
laws made it easier for a significant expansion of
independent campaign fundraising and grassroots mobilization
based around single issues rather than being subject to party
leaders. The election of many conservative Republicans in the
South in the late 1970s and early 1980s deprived Democrats of
the security of an invincible majority, and the heightened
competition for majority control drove money, activism and
legislative strategy into increasingly partisan directions.
While the reforms of 1974 did not ``cause'' partisanship,
the availability to raise and promote divisive issues that
was permitted by a more open and participatory Congress
inadvertently provided Republican with greater opportunities
than they would have enjoyed under a more closed system.
CP: Finally, John, we have an election in less than three
months, one in which the House seems to be, once again, up
for grabs. A key theme driving this reversal is the Trump
presidency. Some commenters see a possible Democratic House
as a check on the Trump policies that Congressional
Republicans have mostly supported; others talk about the
possibility of the new majority moving forward on
impeachment.
Are we back in 1974?
JL: The idea of a Democratic House as a check on the Trump
agenda seems to me to have the most salience. Even though the
President would retain significant authority through the use
of executive orders and other presidential powers, a
Democratic House would check legislative attacks on key
Democratic policies like the Affordable Care Act, the Clean
Air Act and the Endangered Species Act.
Of course, a Republican Senate would still enable Trump to
appoint people of his choosing to the federal courts and
executive agencies, but a Democratic House would have the
power of oversight and subpoenas to investigate possible
misuses of power that today go unexamined. I suspect there
would be strong resistance in a Democratic majority to moving
ahead with impeachment: here are no prospects for success in
the Senate. More importantly, there would be a clear
perception in this new freshman class that the American
people had voted for Democrats in order to pursue other
policies in the area of economics, children, the environment,
energy and corruption in government.
However, should Special Prosecutor Mueller ultimately
recommend that Congress look into presidential abuses of
authority, it would be very difficult to dampen the demands
for an impeachment inquiry.
CP: What advice would the Class of 1974 have for today's
Democratic party?
JL: If you asked those in the Class who were most
successful during their careers, I think they would likely
advise newcomers to learn how the institution works, develop
close relations with colleagues, find areas of policy on
which they would like to focus (rather than be a gadfly with
something to say on every issue.) Newcomers will want to pay
attention to building and strengthening your networks with
constituents, without whom you have no power to accomplish
your goals.
As I say in my book, ``before you save the world, you have
to save your seat.'' I also think that, at least some would
advise the freshmen of 2019 not to spend a lot of time
looking over their shoulders trying to avoid controversial
positions that some voters might dislike. Many in the Class
of '74 were surprised to have won in the first place, and
they were determined to make their impact as swiftly and
decisively as possible because they did not expect to remain
in Congress very long.
So, I think the message would be, ``Don't spend a lot of
time trying to figure out if an issue or a vote plays
positively or negatively. Do what you think is right, explain
your position frankly to your constituents, and you'll be
surprised how often they support your decision.''
