Let me thank the ranking member for yielding. Mr. Chairman, with all of the protests, I think there is nothing more that we can say other than that it is a very cruel decision to move forward this particular legislation. It really implodes…
Let me thank the ranking member for yielding.
Mr. Chairman, with all of the protests, I think there is nothing more that we can say other than that it is a
very cruel decision to move forward this particular legislation. It really implodes and violates the process of litigation between plaintiffs and defendants, petitioners and those who are in opposition, because we have an infrastructure of a court system that allows those who participate in that court system to guide the evidence that is being presented under the representation of their counsel.
The Sixth Amendment provides for individuals to have a right to counsel, and what this legislation is trying to do is implode that relationship and ask for information that could be given in the regular order of a court process.
This is intrusive legislation under the false guise of transparency and, in actuality, would invade the privacy of asbestos victims by requiring the posting of personal exposure and medical information online and erect new barriers to victims receiving compensation for their asbestos diseases.
This cancer-driven disease, this asbestos-driven disease, is a silent killer. For a long time, the victims don't even know that they are being impacted by asbestos that is causing cancer.
We have witnessed decades of uncontrolled use of asbestos; and even after its hazards became widely known, disease and death still persist because people work in it and they do not know. And so they have been forced to hire counsel merely to provide for their families or themselves in the waning hours and days of their life.
Hundreds of thousands of workers and family members have been exposed, suffered, or died of asbestos-related cancers and lung disease; and the toll continues. And yet we have legislation like this that wants to clearly undermine the legal system, the justice system, which means I go into a court, I have a lawyer, there is someone opposed to my position, they have a lawyer, and we submit information under the basis of that litigation or that settlement or that negotiation.
Why do Americans have to be subjected to another abuse while they are suffering and dying?
This is an abuse. H.R. 982 is asking for information that can already be gotten. As I indicated, these individuals have been exposed, suffered, or died from asbestos-related cancer. It is estimated that, each year, 10,000 people in the United States are expected to die from asbestos-related diseases. How much more of an outrage do we have to place on their families--and burdens--to ask them to give information about their sicknesses and other issues that are squarely within the realm of their counsel? Call up their lawyers and ask for it. This is an outrage that they have to deal with this onerous provision.
Time and again, asbestos victims have faced huge obstacles, inconvenient barriers, and veiled but persistent resistance to receiving compensation for their diseases. That is why they organized in the manner that they did. It is because they were dying, dying, dying, and there was no response.
It is particularly galling that many of the major asbestos producers refuse to accept responsibility and that most declared bankruptcy in an attempt to limit their future liability.
I ask my colleagues to vote ``no'' on this legislation. How much more can we put on these poor victims? If you want information, go to their counsel. Go into the courthouse. They will provide it. Let's give them relief. I oppose this legislation.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposition to H.R. 982, the F.A.C.T. Act. This intrusive legislation which misuses the word ``transparency,'' would invade the privacy of asbestos victims by requiring the posting of personal exposure and medical information online and erect new barriers to victims receiving compensation for their asbestos diseases.
We have witnessed decades of uncontrolled use of asbestos, and, even after its hazards became widely known, disease and death still persist.
Hundreds of thousands of workers and family members have been exposed to, suffered or died of asbestos-related cancers and lung disease, and the toll continues. It is estimated that each year 10,000 people in the United States are expected to die from asbestos related diseases. This is an outrage--and to add to their misery--they have to deal with the onerous provisions of H.R. 982.
Time and time again, asbestos victims have faced huge obstacles, inconvenient barriers, and veiled but persistent resistance to receiving compensation for their diseases and it is important to note that asbestos litigation is the longest-running mass tort litigation in the United States.
It is particularly galling that many of the major asbestos producers refused to accept responsibility and most declared bankruptcy in an attempt to limit their future liability. In 1994 Congress passed reasonably balanced special legislation that allowed the asbestos companies to set up bankruptcy trusts to compensate asbestos victims and reorganize under the bankruptcy law.
But these trusts don't have adequate funding to provide just compensation, and according to a 2010 RAND study, the median payment across the trusts is only 25 percent of the claim's value. With compensation from these trusts so limited, asbestos victims have sought redress from the manufacturers of other asbestos products to which they were exposed--the original tortfeasors.
The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, better known as OSHA noted two decades ago that
``It was aware of no instance in which exposure to a toxic substance has more clearly demonstrated detrimental health effects on human than has asbestos exposure.''
We see the harm that asbestos causes when people become sick-- ordinary Americans who did extraordinary things to get this disease-- like go to work every day to support their families.
And although the proponents of this legislation assert that it is intended to protect asbestos victims, I have not heard of a single asbestos victim who has expressed support for the H.R. 982, the FACT Act.
As the widow of our former colleague Representative Bruce Vento (D- MN), who passed away from mesothelioma, stated H.R. 982 ``does not do a single thing'' to help asbestos victims and their families.
H.R. 982 does not help and actually disturbs a reasonably well- functioning asbestos victim compensation process. Entities facing overwhelming mass tort liability for causing asbestos injuries may, under certain circumstances, shed these liabilities and financially regain their stability in exchange for funding trusts established under Chapter II of the Bankruptcy Code to pay the claims of their victims, under certain circumstances.
H.R. 982, however, interferes with this longstanding process in two ways. The FACT Act would require these trusts to: (1) file a publicly available quarterly report with the bankruptcy court that would include personally identifying information about such claimants, including their names, exposure history, and basis for any payment made to them; and (2) provide any information related to payment from and demands for payment from such trust to any party to any action in law or equity concerning liability for asbestos exposure.
I urge my colleagues to vote against this utterly intrusive legislation.
Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
Mr. Chairman, we are here today for several reasons, and my friends on the other side of the aisle have their high calling and reasons of great merit that they argue, but I think we have a more devastating and prevailing reason that we are opposed to this legislation.
Frankly, as I indicated earlier in my remarks, there are thousands and thousands of asbestos victims who are suffering from lung disease or cancer. Many of them were diagnosed late. Many of them, unfortunately, have passed. Their families are still victims. They have lost everything that they have had in trying to treat them, and now we add what we are used to saying in the community: insult to injury.
We come with an enormously burdensome and unfair initiative. So today I rise to introduce an amendment that I ask my colleagues on both sides of the aisle to consider because it is fair.
The amendment would apply the transparency rules that they are seeking from those victims who are barely receiving dollars out of a trust that is the final result of numbers of bankrupt companies. We are asking to equally apply these transparency rules to asbestos industry defendants by requiring asbestos companies to report information about the location of their asbestos-containing products; and the amendment, out of respect for trade secrets, will exempt that.
So today we are asking for transparency on both sides. H.R. 982 is one-sided in that it maintains the rights of asbestos defendants to demand confidentiality of settlements and protects an asbestos defendant's right to continue to hide the dangers of their asbestos products from asbestos victims and the American public. A typical asbestos defendant who settles a case in
the tort system demands the utmost confidentiality along with the right to file for bankruptcy as a condition of the settlement in order to ensure that other victims cannot learn how much they paid or for which asbestos products the defendant is paying compensation.
By no means do we want to help those who are hurting. We certainly don't want to give them a leg up by understanding what the process of compensation is.
These same defendants now, under this particular bill, want the victims to disclose specific settlement amounts with the trusts along with product exposure information and work history. How unfair is that? On my dying bed, I have to offer and find a basis of giving you a settlement, or my family has to give it to you in the midst of our crisis.
The asbestos health crisis is the result of a massive cover-up; therefore, we are asking today for simple fairness. If there is confidentiality on the defendant's part and they ask for information on those who are suffering, then I believe, minimally, defendants can give information about the location of the asbestos-containing products to ensure that our victims are not exposed any longer.
Furthermore, the trust information is already public, and I would ask why this bill is even necessary. And then the further point of controversy is that this bill seeks to override State law regarding discovery disclosure of information.
So I am asking my colleagues to be fair, to recognize the hurt and the pain, and to support the Jackson Lee amendment, which simply asks for those defendants, those companies, to give us the location of the asbestos-containing products.
Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of the Jackson Lee amendment which would require the Asbestos Industry to Report Information about Dangerous Asbestos Products.
What does the Amendment do?
The Amendment would apply the transparency rules in the bill equally to asbestos industry defendants by requiring asbestos companies to report information about the location of their asbestos-containing products. And the amendment includes a ``trade secrets'' exception.
Mr. Chairman, how much time is remaining?
And the gentleman from Virginia?
Mr. Chairman, I yield 45 seconds to the gentleman from
the great State of Michigan (Mr. Conyers).
I thank the distinguished gentleman for his important remarks.
Mr. Chairman, let me quickly say, Mr. Conyers, Mr. Ranking Member, you were superbly right. The plaintiffs in litigation have had their right of exchange of information. What our friends are trying to do on the other side of the aisle is to make the trusts, now, a courtroom where information is dragged out of the victim, but it is not asked for from the defendants, the ones who have filed for bankruptcy, the ones who have left the victims to suffer and to fend for themselves.
I ask my colleagues to make this fair and require the asbestos company to give us where the asbestos-remaining products are so that we can save lives. If there is transparency, if the FACT bill would be fair, they would then have information coming from both parties, not only the victims, the plaintiffs, but they would have it coming from the asbestos companies that have driven up the numbers of those suffering from lung disease and cancer.
I ask my colleagues to support the Jackson Lee amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial
Organizations,
Washington, DC, November 12, 2013.
Dear Representative: I am writing to express the strong
opposition of the AFL-CIO to H.R. 982, the ``Furthering
Asbestos Claim Transparency Act'' (FACT Act). This
legislation would invade the privacy of asbestos victims by
posting personal exposure and medical information online and
create new barriers to victims receiving compensation for
their asbestos diseases. The AFL-CIO urges you to oppose this
harmful bill.
Decades of uncontrolled use of asbestos, even after its
hazards were known, have resulted in a legacy of disease and
death. Hundreds of thousands of workers and family members
have suffered or died of asbestos-related cancers and lung
disease, and the toll continues. Each year an estimated
10,000 people in the United States are expected to die from
asbestos related diseases.
Asbestos victims have faced huge barriers and obstacles to
receiving compensation for their diseases. Major asbestos
producers refused to accept responsibility and most declared
bankruptcy in an attempt to limit their future liability. In
1994 Congress passed special legislation that allowed the
asbestos companies to set up bankruptcy trusts to compensate
asbestos victims and reorganize under the bankruptcy law. But
these trusts don't have adequate funding to provide just
compensation, and according to a 2010 RAND study, the median
payment across the trusts is only 25 percent of the claim's
value. With compensation from these trusts so limited,
asbestos victims have sought redress from the manufacturers
of other asbestos products to which they were exposed.
The AFL-CIO is well aware that the system for compensating
asbestos disease victims has had its share of problems, with
victims facing delays and inadequate compensation and too
much money being spent on defendant and plaintiff lawyers. We
have spent years of effort trying to seek solutions to make
the asbestos compensation system fairer and more effective.
But H.R. 982 does nothing to improve compensation for
asbestos victims and would in fact make the situation even
worse. In our view, the bill is simply an effort by asbestos
manufacturers who still are subject to asbestos lawsuits to
avoid liability for diseases caused by exposure to their
products.
H.R. 982 would require personally identifiable exposure
histories and disease information for each asbestos victim
filing a claim with an asbestos trust, and related payment
information, to be posted on a public docket. This public
posting is an extreme invasion of privacy. It would give
unfettered access to employers, insurance companies, workers
compensation carriers and others who could use this
information for any purpose including blacklisting workers
from employment and fighting compensation claims.
The bill would also require asbestos trusts to provide on
demand to asbestos defendants and litigants any information
related to payments made by and claims filed with the trusts.
This would place unnecessary and added burdens on the trusts,
delaying much-needed compensation for asbestos victims. Such
a provision allows asbestos defendants to bypass the
established rules of discovery in the civil justice system,
and provides broad, unrestricted access to personal
information with no limitations on its use.
Congress should be helping the hundreds of thousands of
individuals who are suffering from disabling and deadly
asbestos diseases, not further victimizing them by invading
their privacy and subjecting them to potential blacklisting
and discrimination. The AFL-CIO strongly urges you to oppose
Mr. Chairman, I demand a recorded vote.