I thank my colleague for yielding. I had the privilege of serving with these two gentlemen, not only in Congress but in the Massachusetts Legislature. I remember being elected and serving at the age of 24, and my seat was right in front of…
I thank my colleague for yielding.
I had the privilege of serving with these two gentlemen, not only in Congress but in the Massachusetts Legislature. I remember being elected and serving at the age of 24, and my seat was right in front of Barney Frank's seat in the legislature at the time. Now, at that time, we had 240 legislators. Very few people had legislative aides. Truly, you were on your own: you were your own speechwriter; you were your own researcher; you did your own negotiations. So to have Barney Frank behind me in the give and take of everything when there were issues on the floor and when we were talking was amazing. I can't even tell you what I learned about being a lawmaker and a legislator, of putting deals together and negotiating.
We also worked in the legislative study group at the time, and I learned an important lesson that is, sadly, not utilized at the State or Federal level these days, that of how to work in coalitions effectively, because a lot of us were real progressives, and the legislature at the time wasn't particularly noted for that. I learned from people like Barney that, if you work together, they're going to need your vote sometime, and we could work together as a group and be effective. I learned at that stage that you can be effective at any level of the legislature if you become skilled and if you become tenacious. He inherited this.
I had the good fortune of also getting to know his mother, Elsie. Now, she was very active with the Mass Association of Older Americans, and she was terrific. She was passionate, knowledgeable, effective, and I can see where he got a lot of his skills.
But one of the things that impressed me also was the fact that in his time working as the chief executive for the late mayor Kevin White in Boston, he had the opportunity to really be there at the executive level. And I could see that reflect in his legislating, and I could see it today because he knew from the legislative side how important it was to do things to empower people on the executive side and how they could work in tandem. I know he took from that experience the fact that there are no sacred cows. When you're in that position in a big city and you're doing things you have to do, you're not always taking the most popular stands, but you're taking tough stands against different groups. And he had no sacred cows and he was willing to speak up when necessary.
I think people in this Chamber know as well that when he took the floor then, just like when he takes the floor now, you don't want to be the other person on the other side of that debating. But even in the din of a noisy House, something that's similar to both branches, when he would get up, everyone would get quiet. They wanted to listen. They were really interested in the intellectual and the humorous sides of the debate that they were about to see.
During that time as well, we would have our votes up on the board. I can tell you this: at a time when you were in the distinct minority on the issue of gender rights, discrimination, discrimination against some sexual orientation, on issues of basic fairness and progressive, those lights were always on the right side, whether in the majority, the winning side or the losing side. Times have changed things. Decades have changed how the public feels about many of these positions, and now they're popular. But at that time they weren't, but he was resolute.
You know, I also look back at some of the differences during that period of time. Back then Barney would have no time to shine his shoes. Or he would have holes in his shoes, and maybe his suit looked like it hadn't seen the cleaners--ever. But I remember his campaign slogans at the time. They said: Neatness isn't everything, vote for Barney Frank.
And I've seen an amazing transformation now that I'm going to have the privilege, as he has had, to represent the city of New Bedford, of Barney around in Joseph Abboud suits, tailor-made, American-made, by the way, and I've seen that transformation as well.
But I've got some big shoes to fill down there. He is beloved in that area. As much as he is dealing with the intricacies of something like Dodd-Frank, many of the other things he's done representing city issues, he is by far the most popular elected official that the fishermen in the New Bedford area in the southeastern Massachusetts area have ever seen. His loyalty to them is probably only eclipsed by their loyalty to him. He knows so much about fish that I don't know if I'll ever catch up or ever have the opportunity, but it's amazing how complex that issue is as well.
But I will say this. Of all of the actions he's taken during his time in public life, I might dare to say what I think one of his most proudest actions would be, not just what people would think, working with fishing or Dodd-Frank, but I think it was really his marriage to Jim. He has told me how important that was to do while he was a Member of Congress, again showing leadership by action on an issue. And I was just so happy to be at that wedding and to see that union, that marriage, and I was very pleased to see the happiness and the love that was there at that time. My only regret is that his mother wasn't there to see it as well because she would have been so proud.
One thing you'll never say about Barney Frank or John Olver, I don't
think there was ever a TV ad, an attack ad, that had one of those weather vane issues. You know, where you changed your position on this and you changed your position on something else, on an important issue. They were both resolute. And I had the opportunity to serve with John briefly in the Senate in Massachusetts. Interestingly enough, when he was chairman of taxation in the Senate, I was his successor as chairman of taxation in the Massachusetts Senate. When I had that position, I started going through the reports and the research documents, and I knew that they just weren't done by researchers, that they had his thumb prints and his intellectual abilities all over them. I must tell you, if I started going back through those things a few decades ago, I probably wouldn't be through them now.
I remember on the floor of the House when John would be carrying a bill to the floor, how people didn't really question anything he had to say. But it's interesting enough, when you go for questions, I seldom saw people go up to John with questions on that legislation because all of us didn't want to know that much about whatever he was talking about. But John had that same sense, strong sense of fairness, a protector of civil rights, a protector of equality, and one of the leaders of our time in understanding about the importance of the environment and the way we treat it.
He was a champion for western Massachusetts, not just with the infrastructure that's there, but when you thought of our colleges out there and the kind of infrastructure that gives people the opportunity for a good life and to advance in life, John Olver's fingerprints were all over that. He took that same attention to detail he had in the Massachusetts legislature and used it in Appropriations to great effect.
So with John and Barney, I wish them both well. They deserve it, and they will continue to be productive, helping our State and helping the people in our State in other capacities.