Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. First, I want to apologize to the body. I thought that we went in at 10 o'clock this morning. When I left last evening, that is what it said.…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
First, I want to apologize to the body. I thought that we went in at 10 o'clock this morning. When I left last evening, that is what it said. My staff did call me last night and tell me I needed to be on the floor by 9:30, but I thought they were gaming me, trying to get me here by 10 and telling me I had to be here by 9:30. Obviously, we did convene at 9, and I showed up at about 10 till. I thought I was 10 minutes early. So I apologize to my brethren for not being here.
There is an old saying that an apple a day keeps the doctor away, and a lot of us try to live by that. But in spite of our best efforts, sometimes we need prescription drugs. I am living proof of that. About a year ago, a year and a month ago, I was in a conference here in this Capitol with my friends in the other body, negotiating budget reconciliation instructions, and I had a heart attack.
Until that day, I had seldom had to take prescription drugs. Since that day, I take five or six. I take a drug to lower my blood pressure. I take a drug to thin my blood. I take all kinds of drugs so that I don't have a repeat of the heart attack that I had 13 months ago.
Now, I am not 65, so I am not covered by Medicare. I am in the standard Federal health benefit plan, Blue Cross/Blue Shield. And it does have a prescription drug benefit that partially pays for those drugs. But if I were to be over 65, which we have some Members of this body that are, I would have to be a part of Medicare and I would have an option under the current law to participate in Medicare part D, the prescription drug benefit program.
Now, when my friends on the other side were in the majority for 40 years, from 1954 to 1994, many of them sincerely, consciously wanted prescription drug benefits for Medicare. For whatever reason, it never quite happened. When the Republicans became the majority in 1994 and took over in 1995, it took us a while, we didn't get it done right away, but 3 years ago, we did pass a prescription drug benefit for part D, and it kicked in in the last Congress.
It is voluntary. Seniors that don't want to participate don't have to. Approximately 90 percent of the seniors that are eligible, we are led to believe, have chosen some plan for a prescription drug benefit.
Now, there are various plans. There are approximately 100 plans. These plans, some of them are very comprehensive. Some are very specific. Some are national, and some are regional. The long and the short of it is that every senior citizen in this country that wants a prescription drug benefit that is covered by Medicare can get one, and about 90 percent have chosen some plan; and of that, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent seem very, very satisfied.
The average cost in monthly premium is $22 a month. Twenty-two dollars a month. There are some plans, I am told, that have zero premiums; you don't have to pay to participate. Within those plans, over 4,400 drugs are covered. In some of these plans, generic drugs are free. In some of these plans, the donut hole does not exist.
So through diversity and market competition, we have created a prescription drug benefit for senior citizens in America that seems to be working very, very well.
Now, my friends on the Democrat side, the new majority, have come in, and they have got this bill up today. They want the government to negotiate prescription drug prices. On the surface, that may seem like a good idea. In reality, it would be a terrible idea. Who is going to do better than market forces with thousands and thousands of people and hundreds of plans and millions of people choosing whether to participate in this plan or that plan? What government bureaucrat, even somebody as smart and distinguished as the current Secretary of HHS, Secretary Levitt, who is going to do better than that?
Now, this concept that the government can negotiate a better price is simply not true. The CBO has come out and said it is not true, various think tanks have come out and said it is not true. But if you think it might be true, think of the products for which the government is the only purchaser and ask yourself, do we get the absolute best price?
There are not many products that the government is the only purchaser, but there are some. Aircraft carriers. There is not much demand for an aircraft carrier in the private market, so the U.S. Government is the only purchaser of aircraft carriers. An average cost of an aircraft carrier right now, I think, is about $5 billion. Now, we get a very quality product. The USS Reagan is the epitome of an aircraft carrier. But I don't believe we could say that we buy it at the absolute rock bottom price.
Now, we may not want to when it comes to some of our military equipment. We may not want to get the absolute best price. We may want to get the absolute best product, and so we are willing to pay a premium for that.
But there is really no way that a person in the Federal Government, or a group of people in the Federal Government, is going to replicate the thousands and thousands of market forces that are in play today.
So of all the ideas that my friends in the new majority have brought forward in their first 100 hours, I would respectfully say this has got to be the worst one. And I don't mean that in a mean way.
We have a program, Medicare part D prescription drug benefit, that is working. The people that can participate are choosing wisely. The premiums are coming down. The cost is coming down. It covers over 4,400 drugs. It is working.
As they say in many parts of our country, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. So I would respectfully urge the body later today to defeat this program.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to H.R. 4, the Medicare Prescription Drug Price Negotiation Act of 2007. This bill reduces access to drugs, creates a massive new pricing bureaucracy, slows access to drugs, and disrupts a
program that works. Let me restate--this program works. Beneficiary premiums are 42 percent lower than expected, overall costs are 30 percent lower than anticipated, and more importantly, seniors like what they are getting. Beneficiary satisfaction with their drug benefit is 80 percent or higher. So if it works, why break it?
Upon reading H.R. 4 there are some things that I know, some things that I don't know, and some things that I fear to be the case. Here's what I know. I know that there's a prescription drug benefit available in this country for 43 million Medicare beneficiaries. Of those folks, 90 percent now have some form of drug coverage.
I know that premiums are now down to around $22 per month for those that choose to enroll in this new benefit. And that's lower than last year because competition continues to drive the premiums down.
I know that beneficiaries like their new drug benefit. I know that beneficiaries are getting the drugs of their choice at the pharmacies of their choice, all at low costs. And I'm told, sometimes at zero cost for some drugs if they choose generics. Should I say that again? That's zero costs for some drugs. Here's a question--how does the government negotiate a lower price than zero?
H.R. 4 will not produce any savings. Why do I say that? The Congressional Budget Office has stated multiple times the federal government can not get lower prices than those currently achieved through competition. CBO must also know, what I know, and that is competition works.
Here's what else I know--H.R. 4 requires the government to negotiate prices that may be charged for drugs. But what else does H.R. 4 do? That's hard to tell because H.R. 4 doesn't say much more. Is the bill just poorly drafted or is it intentionally silent about the multitude of beneficiary and pharmacy protections in the current drug program that could be eliminated?
Upon reading H.R. 4, I do not know if plans will be able to offer the same wide array of drug choices as under the current program. I do not know if our seniors are protected from being stripped down to just one or two drugs offered from the many they may now choose from to best suit their health needs. I do not know if there are protections in place to assure access to robust pharmacy networks, and I do not know if pharmacy reimbursement associated with dispensing drugs could be limited, eliminated, or otherwise restricted.
What I fear is that H.R. 4's silence on these very important questions means that such beneficiary and pharmacy protections have not been considered. What I fear is the effect H.R. 4 may have on beneficiary access to drugs and pharmacies. Unfortunately, there have been no hearings or mark-ups to discuss and debate these important issues.
And even with knowing that H.R. 4 produces no savings, that beneficiaries overwhelmingly like this benefit, that the benefit works, that pharmacies are participating, and that premiums and overall costs are down, Democrats--led by Speaker Pelosi--feel compelled to blindly undermine this program with no legislative record to back up their claims. I am saddened. I am sad today for America's seniors because H.R. 4 serves no purpose other than a political one. We should not be playing politics with our seniors' access to drugs and pharmacies. We should be encouraging more seniors to enroll in this benefit, not tear it apart. Sadly, that is not what the Democrats have chosen to do in their first 100 hours of power.
And for what? We know from the experiences in other countries that government mandated drug formularies and interference in drug pricing leads to substantially less drug innovation and rationing of access to the new medicines that do come to market. Under the current program, a senior can choose a plan that will provide access to new drugs that slow heart disease, ease pain, keep families together longer, cure disease, and provide a longer and higher quality of life. In other countries with government run prescription drug plans citizens must wait years for new therapies. That's if the government chooses to provide the drug at all, just ask the cancer patients in the United Kingdom who waited years for the new breakthrough drug Herceptin to be covered.
How big and slow will this Big Government Pricing bureaucracy be? It's hard to tell with no hearings. With over 4,000 drugs, different economic conditions every year, new drugs entering the market all the time, and incredibly complicated questions about how this would work, the Pelosi plan will create a bureaucratic nightmare, but more importantly will endanger access to life improving and lifesaving medications and therapies. If you are as frustrated as I am about the unfairness of how the government pays physicians under Medicare, be prepared for more frustration on getting this political pricing scheme to work.
What about the effect of H.R. 4 on taxpayers receiving health coverage through private insurance or other federal purchasers? The non-partisan Government Accountability Office (GAO) said in a 2000 report entitled Expanding Access to Federal Prices Could Cause Other Price Changes that this type of system could raise drug prices for non- governmental purchasers. So according to the GAO, government negotiation in Medicare could lead to higher insurance costs for people with an employer sponsored health plan, a labor union plan, or even an individual insurance policy. Yet the Democrats have not held one hearing on this bill.
I ask what we are doing here today. Research firm after research firm has shown that large majorities of beneficiaries have a positive view of the prescription drug benefit. That is probably what is galling the Democrat leadership. A Republican Congress and President has passed and worked hard to administer a very popular program.
Within 100 hours the Democrat leadership has reneged on its campaign statement of bipartisanship, reneged on their campaign statement of open and considered legislative process, flip-flopped from a position of non-interference that they held in numerous bills, made hollow their statement of supporting an innovation agenda, and again shown their penchant for favoring Big Government mediocrity over choice, competition and accountability.
I was here for Contract with America. Those bills we passed with the Contract had hearings with many witnesses, Committee mark-ups and amendments, and opportunities for amendments on the floor. Who is hurt by lack of process on H.R. 4? Beneficiaries. Taxpayers. Pharmacists. Everyone. Without hearings on H.R. 4, without opportunity to develop solutions to concerns and understand the consequences of our actions, everyone loses. Particularly seniors.
In Speaker Pelosi's district there are over 81,000 Medicare beneficiaries and 103 pharmacies. How many hearings have there been to consider whether there are any beneficiary and pharmacy protections under H.R. 4? Zero.
Let's build that out a little more. The total number of Medicare beneficiaries represented by Members of the Energy and Commerce Committee is 5.4 million and there are 6800 pharmacies.
The total number of Medicare beneficiaries represented by Congress is close to 43 million. There are over 53,000 pharmacies. The consequences of this legislation are potentially grave and yet there has been absolutely no process given to determine how it would affect these important constituencies.
I don't mind an open discussion on the new Medicare drug benefit. We have had hearings on the benefit when I was the Chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee. I like the fact that the Energy and Commerce Committee plans to hold more hearings this year. It gives me an opportunity to tout the program's successes. Seniors are seeing real savings and the cost of the program continues to decrease thanks to choice and competition. What I don't like is the purely political exercise we are being put through today that will jeopardize the access to needed drugs that the 63,000 beneficiaries in my district currently enjoy. I urge all members to oppose this process and oppose this ill conceived piece of legislation.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished member of the full committee, Mr. Upton of Michigan.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the distinguished ranking member of the Health Subcommittee, Mr. Deal of Georgia.
Mr. Speaker, I am going to yield 2 minutes to one of our most distinguished Members, Dr. Price, for 2 minutes.
(Mr. PRICE of Georgia asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I would like to yield 2 minutes to the distinguished Congresswoman from Florida (Ms. Ginny Brown-Waite).
Mr. Speaker, I would like to yield to the distinguished gentleman from Nebraska, a member of the committee, Mr. Terry, for 2 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, I wish to recognize the distinguished gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Ferguson) for 2 minutes.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself 2 minutes to put into the Record the Democrat vote on the motion to recommit to H.R. 4680, rollcall 356 back in 2000. This was a Democrat motion to recommit to the Republican drug benefit that later went to the Senate and was not acted upon. 205, and I assume that was the total number of Democrats in the House, all 205 Democrats voted for it, including Mr. Dingell, Ms. Pelosi, Mr. Rangel, and every member of the Energy and Commerce Committee who is currently serving who was in the body at that time. This was a recommit motion by Mr. Stark of California, and I am going to read what it says:
``Noninterference by the Secretary. In administering the prescription medicine benefit program established under this part, the Secretary may not:
One, require a particular formulary, institute a price structure for benefits or in any way ration benefits;
Two, interfere in any way with negotiations between benefit administrators and medicine manufacturers or wholesalers; or
Three, otherwise interfere with the competitive nature of providing a prescription medicine benefit using private benefit administrators, except as is required to guarantee coverage of the defined benefit.''
This is exactly the opposite to the bill that is currently before us, exactly the opposite.
Back in 2000, every Democrat currently in the House at that time, I think, or at least 205, voted for it, including all of our senior members who are leading the fight 180 degrees opposite this today.
Democrats That Voted in Favor of Representative Stark's ``Non-
Interference'' Provision in 2000
Abercrombie
Ackerman
Allen
Andrews
Baca
Baird
Baldacci
Baldwin
Barcia
Barrett (WI)
Becerra
Bentsen
Berkley
Berman
Berry
Bishop
Bagojevich
Blumenauer
Bonior
Borski
Boswell
Boucher
Boyd
Brady (PA)
Brown (FL)
Brown (OR)
Capps
Capuano
Cardin
Carson
Clay
Clayton
Clement
Clyburn
Condit
Conyers
Costello
Coyne
Cramer
Crowley
Cummings
Danner
Davis (FL)
Davis (IL)
DeFazio
Delahunt
DeLauro
Deutsch
Dicks
Dingell
Dixon
Doggett
Dooley
Doyle
Edwards
Engel
Eshoo
Etheridge
Evans
Farr
Fattah
Forbes
Ford
Frank (MA)
Frost
Gejdenson
Gephardt
Gonzalez
Gordon
Green (TX)
Gutierrez
Hall (OH)
Hall (TX)
Hastings (FL)
Hill (IN)
Hilliard
Hinchey
Hinojosa
Hoeffel
Holden
Holt
Hoyer
Inslee
Jackson (IL)
Jackson-Lee (TX)
Jefferson
John
Johnson, E. B.
Jones (OH)
Kanjorski
Kaptur
Kennedy
Kildee
Kilpatrick
Kind (WI)
Kleczka
Klink
Kucinich
LaFalce
Lampson
Lantos
Larson
Lee
Levin
Lewis (GA)
Lipinski
Lofgren
Lowey
Lucas (KY)
Luther
Maloney (CT)
Maloney (NY)
Mascara
Matsui
McCarthy (MO)
McCarthy (NY)
McDermott
McGovern
McIntyre
McKinney
McNulty
Meehan
Meek (FL)
Meeks (NY)
Menendez
Millender-McDonald
Miller, George
Minge
Mink
Moakley
Mollohan
Moore
Moran (VA)
Murtha
Nadler
Napolitano
Neal
Oberstar
Obey
Olver
Ortiz
Owens
Pallone
Pascrell
Pastor
Payne
Pelosi
Peterson (MN)
Phelps
Pickett
Pomeroy
Price (NC)
Rahall
Rangel
Reyes
Rivers
Rodriguez
Roemer
Rothman
Roybal-Allard
Rush
Sabo
Sanchez
Sanders
Sandlin
Sawyer
Schakowsky
Scott
Sherman
Shows
Sisisky
Skelton
Slaughter
Smith (WA)
Snyder
Spratt
Stabenow
Stark
Stenholm
Strickland
Stupak
Tanner
Tauscher
Taylor (MS)
Thompson (CA)
Thompson (MS)
Thurman
Tierney
Towns
Turner
Udall (CO)
Udall (NM)
Velazquez
Visclosky
Waters
Watt (NC)
Waxman
Weiner
Wexler
Weygand
Wise
Woolsey
Wu
Wynn
Representative Stark included this language in his motion
to recommit on H.R. 4680 (roll call vote 356):
Section 1860(b)--NONINTERFERENCE BY THE SECRETARY
In administering the prescription medicine benefit program
established under this part, the Secretary may not B (1)
require a particular formulary, institute a price structure
for benefits, or in any way ration benefits; (2) interfere in
any way with negotiations between benefit administrators and
medicine manufacturers, or wholesalers; or (3) otherwise
interfere with the competitive nature of providing a
prescription medicine benefit using private benefit
administrators, except as is required to guarantee coverage
of the defined benefit.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, could I inquire as to the balance of the time amongst the many people on the floor today.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to a distinguished member of the Energy and Commerce Committee and also a member of the Veterans Committee, Mr. Stearns of Florida.
(Mr. STEARNS asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Mr. Speaker, I would like to yield 2 minutes to a distinguished member of the committee, the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Rogers).
Mr. Speaker, I want to yield myself 1 minute just to reply to Mr. Waxman.
The Congressional Budget Office, as far as I know, is not in the pocket of the drug companies. They say there are going to be no savings to this. The Heritage Foundation, which is admittedly conservative, but I don't think they are in the pocket of the drug companies, says there are going to be no savings. The Veterans Affairs Administration, which is the executive branch part of the Federal Government that is currently operated by President Bush, is opposed to this. They don't think there are going to be any savings. You can go to Wal-Mart right now, whether you are in Medicare or not, and get any number of generic drugs for, I think, a fee of $3 a month. Some of the plans that are out there in the marketplace give generic drugs away. Some of the plans that seniors can choose from have zero premiums. The average premium is $22.
I just think it is flat wrong to think that the Federal Government is going to negotiate a lower price than a competitive marketplace.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Campbell).
Mr. Speaker, I would like to yield 1 minute to a distinguished congressman from Georgia (Mr. Westmoreland).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the distinguished gentleman from West Texas (Mr. Conaway).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Keller).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the distinguish gentleman from Arizona, a former chairman of the Republican Policy Committee and a member of the Energy and Commerce Committee, Mr. Shadegg.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to a distinguished member of the committee who is currently on leave from the committee, the gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. Blackburn).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 2 minutes to another distinguished member of the Energy and Commerce Committee, the gentleman from Oklahoma (Mr. Sullivan).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1\1/2\ minutes to the gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Gingrey).
Mr. Speaker, I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Wilson).
Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Camp) be allowed to control the minority time for the Ways and Means Committee, which I believe is 40 minutes.