Madam Chair, I yield myself such time as I may consume. (Mr. GORDON Tennessee asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.) Madam Chair, I rise in strong support of H.R. 1145, the…
Madam Chair, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
(Mr. GORDON Tennessee asked and was given permission to revise and extend his remarks.)
Madam Chair, I rise in strong support of H.R. 1145, the National Water Research and Development Initiative Act of 2009.
Thirty-six States expect to experience significant water shortages by the year 2013. Diminished supplies of water and intense competition for limited resources are forcing local water agencies to make tough decisions on water allocations and limiting access to needed water by businesses and families.
When severe water shortages occur, the economic impact is substantial. In 2007, the Tennessee Valley Authority was forced to shut down a nuclear reactor due to a lack of acceptable cooling water in the Tennessee River. According to a report from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, each of the eight water shortages over the past 20 years from drought and heat waves resulted in $1 billion or more in monetary losses. The Association of California Water Agencies reported in April of 2008 that California is now losing income and jobs due to the State's water supply crisis.
Over 20 Federal agencies carry out research and development on some aspect of water supply, water quality, or water management. Despite spending millions of dollars on research at each of these agencies, an increase in the number of water shortages and emerging conflicts over water supply suggest that we are still inadequately prepared to address the Nation's water management issue.
A new commitment is necessary to ensure that the United States can meet the water challenges over the next 20 years and onward. As chairman of the Science and Technology Committee, I have tasked the committee with advancing this issue through hearings and with legislation to address technological and strategic deficiencies at the Federal level. Our committee held hearings in 2008 and 2009 to examine the problems associated with dwindling water supplies across the Nation and to receive testimony as to how the Federal Government can help meet these challenges.
I am proud of the bipartisan support and collaboration that resulted in H.R. 1145. Ranking Member Ralph Hall has been a champion of produced water utilization legislation, and this bill incorporates research to pursue the goals established in his bill, H.R. 469. We are happy to accept constructive amendments from other Members of the minority, and the bill was reported out of the committee in a strong bipartisan manner.
H.R. 1145 will coordinate national research and development efforts on water and provide a clear path forward to ensure adequate water supplies for generations to come. This bill will ensure that we have an effective national water strategy that uses Federal research and development dollars efficiently and eliminates redundant programs.
H.R. 1145 has been endorsed by the National Beverage Association, by the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, Water Innovations Alliance, the National Resource Defense Council, Water Environment Research Foundation, the Council of Scientific Society Presidents, Food and Water Watch, Water Research Foundation, Alliance Environmental, and Clean Water Action.
In tough economic times, it is imperative that we use every dollar we spend effectively. Coordination of Federal agencies, activities, and strong partnerships with the State, local and tribal governments will ensure that Federal programs are focused on areas of greatest concern and that our efforts are complementary and effective.
I urge my colleagues to support this important legislation.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Let me again thank Ranking Member Hall for his help in this bill. We have had a number of hearings over the last 2 years. We have had open forums, we have had witnesses that have presented their testimony. He outlined a variety of legitimate concerns that came about at the committee level, such as produced water and getting a better definition. It was a better bill because of his help, and I thank him for that.
Concerning the Public Lands Act, I will just point out, as I had earlier, that the Public Lands Act, which was in the other body, is an implementation legislation, where this is legislation for research.
With that, I now would like to yield to the gentlelady from Texas (Ms. Eddie Bernice Johnson) such time as she may consume, again, an important member of our committee.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, I have an amendment at the desk.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I am offering this amendment to make important changes to H.R. 1145. A number of my colleagues joined me in drafting language for this amendment, and I applaud them for their good ideas and collaborative efforts. I want to thank Representatives Adler, Bean, Cardoza, Connolly, Halvorson, Inslee, McCarthy, McCollum, Betsy Markey, Minnick, Moore, Pingree, Polis, Scott and Titus.
H.R. 1145 establishes a planning process for the Federal research and development efforts on water. This amendment clarifies that the plan should be revised and revisited as progress is made on the goals identified in this bill.
The bill, as reported from the committee, contained conflicting information about the length of authorization. This manager's amendment corrects this discrepancy and authorizes the initiative for 5 years.
In addition, this amendment identifies additional external groups that the interagency committee and its coordination office should work with, including consumer-related businesses, water managers, and public-private collaborations.
The amendment also adds a number of new research outcomes for the committee to investigate, including polluted coastal waters, changing patterns of water availability, the impacts of invasive species, the emerging contaminants of concern, such as a variety of other disruptors.
This amendment also provides additional oversight procedures to the initiative to ensure that taxpayer dollars are being spent in the most effective manner.
These are important additions to H.R. 1145, and I ask my colleagues' support on this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance of my time.
Would the gentleman yield?
Thank you, Mr. Hall. That's a good question. Let me first say that this is a large amendment and we try to deal in a collaborative way in our committee. Unfortunately, everyone doesn't have the privilege to serve on our Science Committee, and there was a lot of interest in this bill. So there were lots of amendments, many of which were incorporated here. As I say, I think we would be better off in a more collaborative way having vetted these. But I think that we have had the opportunity to do that more recently. And let me address your very real legitimate question concerning scaling out this EPA program.
First of all, as I think we all know, 20 or 30 percent of water is lost through various utilities. I was reading a story the other day where several utilities still have wooden pipes from decades back. So this is a voluntary program that would allow the various utilities to ask the EPA to come in and help them with an analysis on how they could be more efficient and save money with their program. So, again, it's voluntary.
I would also say this is just an authorization. If the EPA does not feel they have the resources to do it, they don't have to without a further appropriation, but I think it will help them, again, utilities on a voluntary basis to use that precious water resource in a more efficient way.
Mr. Chair, let me first again concur with Mr. Hall. This is going to be a continuing process. We will go on to a conference with the Senate at a later date, and all of these issues will be reviewed. We want the best bill possible.
At this time, Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Loretta Sanchez).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from Wisconsin (Ms. Moore).
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman from across the Potomac River, Mr. Connolly.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman from Illinois (Mrs. Halvorson).
I yield 3 minutes to the gentlewoman from Minnesota (Ms. McCollum), and I want to thank her for her important contribution to this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to the gentlelady from Nevada (Ms. Titus).
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may need to start our close here. We have no further speakers.
Again, I want to thank Ms. Titus, Ms. Johnson, all the others who helped us put together this manager's amendment.
I certainly want to thank Mr. Hall and his staff as we have gone through, really, the last 2 years with hearings in the committee, with workshops, with a variety of different efforts to hear all and come forth with a good bill on a very important issue.
As I mentioned earlier, there's going to be 40 States for the year 2013 that are going to have a water crisis. We need to address this.
Let me say one final thing about this manager's amendment. It's a little larger than usual. There have been some new, but I think, worthwhile items introduced there. I think they need to continue to be vetted. I don't like to just bring things in off the street.
And I want Mr. Hall to know that as we go through the process that we will continue this discussion if there are any concerns about amendments that were incorporated into this manager's amendment.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Would the gentlewoman yield?
Let me just thank the gentlewoman for her amendment and her leadership on our committee in terms of space and science. This amendment makes our bill a better bill.
Mr. Chairman, I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, even though I am not opposed to the amendment.
I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I will just quickly say thank you to Mr. Hastings for this amendment. I think it is a constructive amendment. I think it may need some fine- tuning so it can fit best into this bill and the constructs of the bill, but it certainly is constructive and certainly something we should do, and we will work with you.
I will be voting for the amendment, and as we go through the process will be trying to work with you to again make it fit into the bill better so we can go into conference.
I yield back the balance of my time.
I want to thank you for this constructive amendment. You have been a leader on water issues in California. I know that is a very sensitive issue there, and thank you for helping make a good bill better.
I claim the time in opposition to the amendment, though I am not in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Mr. Chairman, let me just thank the gentlelady from Florida for this constructive amendment. I think again this helps to make a good bill better, and I urge support of her amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time.
If the gentleman would yield, I would like to thank him for this amendment and offer my support and request that the committee do pass this amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I claim time in opposition to the amendment.
Mr. Chairman, I certainly appreciate the thrust of the gentleman from Illinois' amendment in terms of trying to stop the duplication of programs to save money. We need to be doing that every day. The irony is that this is what this bill does. This bill looks at the 20 agencies that invest in water research, and it coordinates that so we can get our best bang for the buck. It also helps to do away with that type of duplication.
So, as well-intended as the gentleman is, his amendment, I'm afraid, would be contrary to what he wants to accomplish. It would only slow down the process of this coordination and slow down the process of better utilizing our resources and saving that money. So it really is, again, with the best of intentions, but this amendment, I think, would counter that.
Not being a member of the committee, he did not have the benefit of the hearings that we had, of the roundtable discussions that we had, of all the input that we had, and I think that's the reason that he also might not be aware of the wide endorsements of this bill. This bill is endorsed by the National Beverage Association, the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, the Water Innovation Alliance, the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Water Environmental Research Foundation, the Council of Scientific Society Presidents, the Food and Water Watch, the Water Research Foundation, and the Alliance for Environmental and Clean Water Action.
Again, we tried to follow his advice and accomplish that, and I think this bill does and has, really, wide and active support. His amendment would only stop that implementation or it would slow it down, which would certainly be counter to his intentions.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Chairman, let me point out that, in section 3, paragraph 3, part of the bill says, ``The technical innovation activities to avoid duplications of effort and to ensure optimum use of resources and expertise.''
You said a ``criticism'' of your amendment. I hope you didn't take that as a criticism. Again, I compliment the thrust of your amendment, but we have incorporated that here.
Let me also say that there is a synergy oftentimes also with research. NASA and NOAA may be working on a similar project, but because they're working on something similar, you wouldn't necessarily say that it was duplicative and not useful but, rather, that there was a synergy of working together. In our bill, we specifically say avoiding that duplication.
So, again, I think you have the best of intentions, and I think that we have accomplished those. For that reason, I would have to oppose your amendment because it would stop us from getting on to the work of saving money and of having a program that is so important. There are 40 States in our Nation right now that are facing serious water shortages or droughts or water problems between now and the year 2013.
I reserve the balance of my time.
I yield myself such time as I may consume.
Once again, let me say to my friend from Arizona, you come at this with the right attitude, and that's what we're trying to do. The purpose of this bill is to not only do away with duplication but also to have these 20 different agencies working in a more effective way. But let me explain, again unintentionally, but the impact of your amendment.
Your amendment would require the administration to determine what research, development and technology innovation programs exist in all States, local and tribal governments. In addition to the 50 States, there are over 500 federally recognized tribes, over 87,000 local government entities, and so compiling this information would be an enormous and expensive undertaking. And the gentleman's amendment is silent as to who would pay for this. In fact, the gentleman's amendment is silent as to whether the State, local or tribal governments would be forced to bear some of the costs of implementing this census.
And let me give you a couple of practical problems here. Let's say there was a tribe somewhere that was spending $1,000 working on a desalinization project. Well, that would preempt a Federal effort that could be much more significant and worthwhile.
Another example would be, for instance, if there was a groundwater extraction issue in central Florida, might be dramatically different from a groundwater issue in central Arizona. But if Florida has a program examining groundwater extraction, the Federal Government would be precluded from doing research which might be relevant and helpful to the people of central Arizona.
So again, I think both of us have the same objective, which is what we try to accomplish in this bill.
I would be happy to yield.
As I read your amendment, it says the President in carrying out the activities under subsection A and B shall ensure that each Federal agency participating the initiative shall not request appropriations for activities that are identified under the section. So I think it is a mandate.
But even if it wasn't, let's take that off the table. Even if it wasn't, it still requires all 50 States, 500 Federal recognized tribes, and 87,000 local government entities to have a census or an inventory. This could be an enormous expense.
Again, I think we're in sync, but let me again remind the gentleman that this bill has been well vetted and it has been endorsed by a number of groups, including the National Beverage Association, the National Rural Electric Cooperative Association, the Water Innovation Alliance, the Natural Resources Defense Council, the Water and Environmental Research Foundation, the Council of Scientific Society Presidents, Food and Water Research Foundation, the Alliance Environmental, and Clean Water Action.
So I think this has been vetted. And, again, I think we're on the same wavelength, but I am afraid that the gentleman's amendment would have unintended consequences in causing a great deal of expense to local governments, State governments and entities all across the country.
I reserve the balance of my time.
In closing, Mr. Chairman, let me just say I think two friends can see the same accident and report it differently, both trying to do their best in doing that.
In response to Mr. Shadegg, first of all, in the ``shall,'' the ``shall'' was the President shall not spend any money on this project. So that means nothing could be done there. But, again, the bigger picture is we share the same objective, and that is to try to coordinate this important research to try to do it as economically as possible.
Again, I share that view with him. We tried to accomplish that in this bill, and I am afraid that it would only create additional expense to put so many--87,000 different local governments and agencies through this process of having to inventory whether they are doing anything.
For that reason, I oppose this amendment.
Thank you, Ms. Moore.
I want to concur with Mr. Hall's eloquent support of this amendment. It is an excellent amendment; it is constructive, and it helps to make this bill better. I want to thank you for bringing it to our attention.
Mr. Speaker, I rise in opposition to this motion; although I do not oppose the motion.
First of all, let me thank the gentleman from California (Mr. Nunes) for his interest in this bill. And let me also point out, I don't know whether he saw this morning in one of the major newspapers, the headline was ``Drought Conditions Hit California Earlier Than Usual.'' Certainly California has a problem. But not only California, but 40 States by the Year 2013 are going to be experiencing droughts and other problems with water. That's why this bill is so very important.
Now, the gentleman from California, not being a member of our committee, understandably, probably doesn't realize how we work in a collaborative, bipartisan fashion, and how that, during the hearing of this bill, Mr. Rohrabacher, also from California, presented an amendment almost identical to this, and it was accepted unanimously by our committee. Additionally, there are other ongoing studies.
But I do clearly agree that this is an issue of concern. And I think putting an exclamation point is perfectly fine. And for that reason, we will accept this amendment or, rather, this motion to recommit to reinforce the amendment that Mr. Rohrabacher already has put in and is part of the text of this amendment.
I yield to the gentleman from California.
Mr. Speaker, I reclaim my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield to the gentleman from California (Mr. Costa).
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to the instructions of the House on the motion to recommit, I report the bill, H.R. 1145, back to the House with an amendment.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.