Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume. I rise on behalf of Ranking Member Spencer Bachus, the minority in opposition, strong opposition, to H.R. 5510. Mr. Speaker, here we go again.…
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I rise on behalf of Ranking Member Spencer Bachus, the minority in opposition, strong opposition, to H.R. 5510.
Mr. Speaker, here we go again. The American people have rightly demanded an end to the bailouts, but this outgoing Democratic majority just can't seem to let go. Just this past October, Secretary Geithner put out a lengthy report proclaiming the expiration of TARP, but it seems that the $700 billion bailout isn't quite dead yet.
Just a week away from Christmas Eve, the Democratic majority is today attempting to bring the bailout back to life for the sole purpose of showering taxpayer money on community groups that provide legal assistance. The premises of reopening TARP for this purpose is troubling enough, but perhaps even worse is that we are bypassing any form of regular order to consider this this morning.
We first received the text of this language, which is substantially different from the introduced version, at 9 a.m. this morning. No hearings were held on this legislation. No subcommittee or full committee markup. No CBO score has been produced. We have yet to receive any feedback whatsoever from the Department of Housing and Urban Development or from the President.
We have heard that there's a letter of support, but simply the letter we've received from the Treasury is one outlining why they can't do it. In fact, there's been newspaper articles about how Secretary Geithner has blocked this from occurring. In fact, the General Counsel recently wrote that the proposed legal aid services are not necessary to the implementation or effectiveness of the hardest hit fund because Congress has provided other specific appropriations that funded the same type of legal aid processes or services proposed by the State and Federal; that legal aid services are not necessary or essential to the implementation of a loan modification program. The case has not been made that there are inadequate resources for legal assistance.
The American people expect better.
The legislation before us today could conceivably result in billions of taxpayer dollars being pumped into community groups similar to the now defunct ACORN. That was not the purpose of the hardest-hit housing market's program nor was it contemplated by the original emergency TARP bailout. Even Treasury Secretary Geithner agrees with that point. TARP was designed to return all unspent funds directly to the taxpayer so that legislative efforts like today's wouldn't be possible. In theory, this legislation could prevent more than $7 billion from being returned to the taxpayers.
Our goal should be to return as much taxpayer money to the taxpayer, not to invent new ways to make sure that we spend it. TARP was not designed to be a perpetual slush fund.
The drafters of the 2008 TARP clearly understood how tempting it would be to have a $700 billion pot of money lying around, so they installed a firm expiration date for the program. That hasn't stopped this majority from attempting to use the emergency stabilization money for other purposes; but today's poorly crafted, non-vetted, redundant, duplicative, and perhaps unnecessary bailout is particularly egregious due to the process they followed.
I urge my colleagues to reject this suspension, and if additional legal assistance moneys are required, go through regular order to prove it.
I reserve the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
I appreciate my friend from Massachusetts pointing out my good soldiering here, but there are certain things that I do know are facts, and that is: Taxpayers are already paying for legal services for the impoverished. It's the Legal Services Corporation. And the appropriation for this year, at least as it currently is listed, is $440 million.
Perhaps what we're saying here is using the TARP fund as the vehicle and keeping TARP alive is the wrong process here. Perhaps this isn't a TARP or financial services issue. The right way is an appropriation issue.
If the majority is upset that there is not enough money going to legal services for the poor, whether it's for foreclosures or other legal issues, the right path would be addressing the Appropriations Committee and asking for additional funds within an already existing process.
Committee staff is not aware of whether or not Geithner has now said he is in favor of this bill. We don't know of any conversations, but we have no doubt to disagree with the gentleman from Massachusetts' statement that he has had conversations. We've heard about a letter, but we only have one dated September 13.
I yield to the gentleman from Massachusetts.
No, and I said I don't doubt your word. I said that.
What we have here is a September 13 letter, but we've also heard that there is another letter, or maybe we are talking about the same letter.
And reclaiming my time, that's the reason for our opposition here.
The Treasury Department--it wasn't Republicans. It was their own administration and the Cabinet Member, Mr. Geithner, that said TARP doesn't have the powers to be a legal aid fund, so it takes them to have to change this.
I kind of heard both things here, that if the administration was agreeing to this or saying that this was the right thing for TARP or that they had the powers, why was this bill even necessary? But let's say TARP was necessary, or this bill is necessary, because, as Geithner said in the September 13 letter, they don't have the power. So now, 2 years after the fact, they want to change TARP to become a legal aid fund.
I was part of the group that held out our votes because we wanted to make sure that this wasn't going to be a fund that was going to be continuously used, that every dollar that was going to be spent had the opportunity to be recouped so that the taxpayers at the end would not be out any dollars. This changes the whole philosophy of TARP for many people that voted for it.
Department of the Treasury,
Washington, DC, September 13, 2010.
Hon. Mary Jo Kilroy,
House of Representatives,
Washington, DC.
Dear Representative Kilroy: I am writing in response to
your recent inquiries about the Housing Finance Agency
Innovation Fund for the Hardest-Hit Housing Markets (the
``HFA Hardest-Hit Fund''). As you know, we designed the Fund
to support new and innovative foreclosure prevention efforts
in states--such as Ohio--that have been hardest hit by
housing price declines and high unemployment rates. I share
your strong commitment to maximizing the impact of the HFA
Hardest-Hit Fund and to helping responsible Americans keep
their homes.
I also understand your interest in whether the HFA Hardest-
Hit Fund can support legal aid services proposed by state
HFAs. It is critically important that struggling American
families receive accurate and helpful advice about how to
take advantage of the Administration's housing relief
efforts. Accordingly, I asked George Madison, the General
Counsel of the Treasury Department, to review the issue
closely. Mr. Madison has concluded that legal aid services
cannot be funded through programs such as the HFA Hardest-Hit
Fund that are authorized under the Emergency Economic
Stabilization Act of 2008 (``EESA''). I have enclosed a
detailed memorandum that analyzes the legal issues and
statutory limitations.
Thank you for your attention to these critical issues.
Although we cannot use EESA funds to support legal aid
services, we are fully committed to working with you to
ensure that the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund successfully provides
targeted aid to struggling homeowners and encourages
innovative solutions to the housing downturn.
Sincerely,
Timothy F. Geithner,
Secretary of the Treasury.
Enclosure.
Department of the Treasury,
Washington, DC, September 10, 2010.
Memorandum for Secretary Geithner
FROM: George W. Madison, General Counsel
SUBJECT: Funding of Legal Aid Services in connection with
the Housing Finance Agency Innovation Fund for the Hardest
Hit Housing Markets
This memorandum addresses whether the Department of the
Treasury (``Treasury'') can support certain proposed legal
aid services using Troubled Asset Relief Program (``TARP'')
funds in connection with the Housing Finance Agency
Innovation Fund for the Hardest Hit Housing Markets (``FIFA
Hardest-Hit Fund'').
We understand that you intend to share this memorandum with
Members of Congress.
I. Summary Conclusion.
For the reasons discussed below, we have concluded that
legal aid services cannot be funded through programs such as
the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund that are funded under the Emergency
Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (``EESA''). Legal aid
services are not specifically authorized under EESA. In
addition, the proposed legal aid services are not necessary
and incidental, as a matter of law, to the implementation or
effectiveness of the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund, because: (1)
Congress has provided other specific appropriations that fund
the same type of legal aid services proposed by the state
Housing Finance Agencies (``HFAs''); and (2) legal aid
services are not necessary or essential to the implementation
of a loan modification program.
II. Factual Background.
Treasury has provided funding under EESA for the HFA
Hardest-Hit Fund for measures developed by state HFAs to help
homeowners in the states that have been hardest hit by the
housing downturn. Treasury has designated the HFA Hardest-Hit
Fund specifically for implementation in eighteen states, as
well as the District of Columbia. Each applicable state HFA
(or an eligible entity on its behalf) has developed a range
of programs tailored to the needs of its individual state and
has submitted funding requests to Treasury. Proposal
submission guidelines instruct the eligible state HFAs that
the proposed programs must ``meet the requirements of EESA.''
Staff members from several eligible HFAs have expressed an
interest in funding certain types of counseling and/or legal
aid services. Accordingly, they requested Treasury's views on
the funding of these types of services. In response, we
communicated--through a law firm engaged by Treasury to
assist it with the implementation of the HFA Hardest-Hit
Fund--our conclusion that certain limited counseling services
are eligible for funding under EESA, but that the proposed
legal aid services are not eligible. This memorandum
describes Treasury's legal position in further detail.
III. Legal Analysis.
As a general matter, government funds may be used only for
their intended purpose. EESA does not expressly authorize
payments for legal aid services. Section 101 of EESA
authorizes the Secretary of the Treasury to purchase
``troubled assets from any financial institution.'' And
109(a) authorizes the Secretary to use ``loan guarantees and
credit enhancements to facilitate loan modifications to
prevent avoidable foreclosures.'' Consistent with this
authority, Treasury has specified that FIFA Hardest-Hit Fund
proposals must facilitate loan modifications using credit
enhancements in the form of payments to loan servicers,
investors, and borrowers.
EESA does not cite, much less authorize, spending for legal
aid services. However, appropriations law does not require
that all government expenditures must be specifically or
expressly identified by Congress. It is well-settled that
when Congress makes an appropriation for an expressly-stated
purpose, it also authorizes by implication expenditures that
are ``necessary or incident to'' the implementation of the
expressly stated purpose.
The Comptroller General of the United States has held that
three factors must be considered when determining whether a
federal government expense is necessary or incidental--as a
matter of law--to the implementation of the object of an
appropriation (in this case, the implementation of a mortgage
modification program under EESA). All three factors must be
satisfied.
First, the expenditure must be ``reasonably related to the
purposes for which the appropriation was made.'' Second, the
expenditure ``must not be prohibited by law.'' And third, the
expenditure ``must not fall specifically within the scope of
some other category of appropriations''--in other words, the
expenditures are only authorized if they have not been
provided for more specifically by some other appropriation or
statutory funding scheme. The last requirement applies even
if the more appropriate funding source is exhausted and
therefore unavailable. If a federal agency funds an activity
under a broad appropriation, despite the fact that the
activity been specifically funded by another appropriation,
the agency would violate the Anti-Deficiency Act (31 U.S.C.
Sec. 1341).''
In our view, the expenditure of EESA funds for legal aid
services under the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund is prohibited,
because it does not satisfy the third factor of the
Comptroller General's test. Congress has otherwise
appropriated federal funds for the same types of legal aid
services proposed by the state HFAs. This conclusion, by
itself, is dispositive and means the proposals cannot be
funded under the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund.
In addition, we have concerns about whether the HFA
proposals satisfy the first factor of the Comptroller
General's test. Although the precise legal standard governing
this factor is unclear, numerous opinions require a close
nexus to a specific statutory purpose--i.e., that
expenditures be ``necessary'' or ``essential.'' We recognize
that typical legal aid services, such as those proposed by
the various state HFAs, are reasonably related to foreclosure
prevention efforts generally. However, we do not believe they
are necessary or essential to loan modification programs
under the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund.
A. Legal Aid Services Fall Specifically within the Scope of
Another Appropriation.
The third factor of the Comptroller General's test
prohibits the payment of any expenses if another
appropriation ``makes more specific provision for such
expenditures. In this case, the question is whether the legal
aid services proposed by the state HFAs fall within the scope
of other existing appropriations.
The answer is yes. Congress has specifically provided funds
for legal aid services through annual appropriations to the
Legal Services Corporation (the ``LSC''). The LSC uses
appropriated funds to make grants to non-profit legal aid
programs, which in turn offer legal services to low-income
individuals and families. Those services include helping
``homeowners prevent foreclosures or renegotiate their
loans.''
Moreover, Congress recently authorized legal aid
specifically related to foreclosure prevention efforts. On
July 21, 2010, the President signed into law the Dodd-Frank
Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act, Pub. L. No.
111-517 (2010) (the ``Dodd-Frank Act''):
Section 1498 of the Dodd-Frank Act authorizes HUD to
establish and administer a program that funds foreclosure
legal assistance to low- and moderate-income homeowners and
tenants related to home ownership preservation, home
foreclosure prevention, and tenancy associated with home
foreclosure;
Section 1498(d)(1) requires that the legal assistance only
be provided to ``homeowners of owner-occupied homes with
mortgages in default, in danger of default, or subject to or
at risk of foreclosure;'' and
Section 1498(f) appropriates to the Secretary of HUD $70
million for fiscal years 2011 and 2012 ($35 million each
year) for these legal aid grants.
In short, Congress already has funded legal aid services
through existing appropriations and statutory funding
schemes. Accordingly, we believe that providing additional
funding for legal aid services under the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund
would be contrary to opinions of the Comptroller General and
it might violate the Anti-Deficiency Act.
B. Legal Aid Services May Not Constitute a ``Necessary
Expense.''
The first factor of the Comptroller General's test requires
that necessary and incidental expenses must be ``reasonably
related to the purposes for which the appropriation was
made.'' As previously noted, we are not relying upon this
analysis, because the HFAs' legal aid proposals clearly do
not satisfy the third factor of the Comptroller General's
test. Nonetheless, various Members of Congress and other
interested parties have raised questions related to this
issue. Therefore, we have considered it and concluded that
the legal standard may not be satisfied.
Despite a ``vast number of decisions over the decades,''
the Comptroller General has not applied the first prong of
its test in a clear and consistent manner.'' Instead, the
Comptroller General has used a variety of different
formulations when discussing the standard. ``If one lesson
emerges, it is that the concept is a relative one.''
Nonetheless, in numerous opinions, the Comptroller General
has required a close nexus between a specific express
statutory purpose and any proposed expenditures--ie., the
expenditures must be ``necessary'' or ``essential.''
In this case, legal aid services may be reasonably related
to foreclosure prevention efforts generally; however, they
are not necessary or essential to running a loan modification
program. Typically, legal aid lawyers who represent
struggling homeowners perform a variety of functions, other
than just negotiating mortgage modifications. For example,
legal aid lawyers represent borrowers in arbitration
proceedings against their lenders; file injunctions and
bankruptcy petitions to prevent foreclosure sales; and, when
foreclosure sales occur, file exceptions proceedings in state
court.
Notably, the HFAs' legal aid proposals do not focus on
obtaining modifications under the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund or
under Treasury's Home Affordable Modification Program
(``HAMP'' ). Instead, they fall within two general
categories: using EESA funds to pay lawyers to
represent distressed borrowers in state foreclosure
proceedings, or using funds to provide general support to
legal aid programs related to foreclosure prevention.
Given the breadth of the proposals, legal aid services
frequently would result in outcomes other than loan
modifications. Accordingly, they are not--by definition--
necessary or essential to loan modification programs under
the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund. Moreover, even if the HFAs'
proposals were more targeted, most borrowers can obtain
modifications without traditional legal services. That is,
there is no need for representation in court proceedings,
no requirement to file papers or cite legal authorities,
and no need to negotiate contracts (because the
modifications are standardized).
We recognize that some Comptroller General opinions suggest
that expenditures merely need to be ``reasonably related'' or
``contribute materially'' to an authorized statutory purpose.
Here, one could argue that a general statutory purpose of
EESA is to prevent foreclosures and that any expenditures
reasonably related to that purpose are permissible. We
believe that such an interpretation sweeps too broadly. It
would authorize an almost unlimited number and variety of
government expenditure--ie., anything that is reasonably
related to preventing foreclosures. It also would render
meaningless the express provisions in EESA that together
provide authority for the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund: Section 101
authorizes the Secretary to purchase ``troubled assets from
any financial institution,'' and 109(a) authorizes the
Secretary to use ``loan guarantees and credit enhancements to
facilitate loan modifications to prevent avoidable
foreclosures.'' Lastly, such an interpretation would be
contrary to how Treasury has implemented EESA.
C. Certain Limited Intake and Follow-Up Services Are Eligible
for EESA Funding.
Finally, it is instructive to compare the HFAs' legal aid
proposals to the much narrower intake and follow-up services
related to TARP-funded modifications that are provided by
homeowner counseling agencies. We previously have concluded
that these services satisfy the Comptroller General's test
and are eligible for EESA funding.
Most HFAs have submitted proposals to Treasury that include
services narrowly tailored to obtaining modifications under
the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund programs, such as: (i) making
prequalification assessments of eligibility and submitting
the qualified applications to the HFAs; (ii) obtaining
supporting documentation from the borrowers and providing it
to the HFAs; (iii) ensuring that borrowers execute the
necessary documents for HFA Hardest-Hit Fund programs; (iv)
conducting post-closing meetings with borrowers receiving
assistance to ensure that they are complying with the HFA
Hardest-Hit Fund programs; and/or (v) verifying the steps
that the borrower has taken to find a job.
In contrast to legal aid, these particular services do not
fall within the scope of other existing appropriations.
Moreover, they are ``necessary'' and ``essential'' to running
a mortgage modification program, within the meaning of the
Comptroller General opinions. The HFAs have represented that
in the absence of intake and follow-up services, both the
number of applicants and the number of approved participants
will be materially smaller. These services are necessary for
many borrowers to participate in the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund
programs, and it will be very difficult for many of these
programs to run effectively without such services. In
addition, intake and follow-up services are directly related
to the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund programs. They will neither be
available to nor assist applicants to other, non-TARP funded
programs.
IV. Conclusion.
We recognize that legal aid services--such as representing
a borrower in court to avoid a foreclosure, or advising a
borrower about his or her legal rights--may be helpful to
preventing foreclosures. However, EESA does not expressly
authorize payments for such services, and Congress has
provided other federal funds for the same types of services
proposed by the HFAs. Moreover, unlike the specific
counseling services that HFAs have proposed, legal aid
services are not necessary or essential to the implementation
of the particular HFA Hardest-Hit Fund programs, within the
meaning of the Comptroller General opinions. For all these
reasons, Treasury has determined that legal aid services are
not eligible for EESA funding from the HFA Hardest-Hit Fund.
Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
Will the gentleman yield?
We were referring to the gentlelady from Ohio's statement on the floor that she has a letter saying that they support this. We have not seen a letter that says that.
Mr. Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. LaTourette) who was actually a sponsor of the bill.
I yield myself such time as I may consume.
The point here is there's an appropriate vehicle and this isn't it. We already have taxpayers paying into legal services. Perhaps there should have been more money in there, but we didn't go through an appropriations process for this area this year. That was the majority's decision here. We can have this argument and debate, but that's the proper course here. And it needs to go through regular service. This is not.
Enough is enough. My friend from Ohio is right, enough is enough. Let's let TARP die. We want it gone. It served its purpose. Let's not keep it alive. Let's use the appropriate ways to do this, which is Legal Services Corporation.
I yield back the balance of my time.
Mr. Speaker, on that I demand the yeas and nays.