Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded. Madam President, I send an amendment to the desk and ask for its immediate consideration. Madam President, I thank the clerk. If my colleague would…
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Madam President, I send an amendment to the desk and ask for its immediate consideration.
Madam President, I thank the clerk.
If my colleague would like to make a statement at this time, I would be happy to yield, without losing my right to the floor.
I absolutely will agree. I am waiting for my coauthor, Chuck Schumer. As soon as we get word as to how much time he would need, yes, we would definitely want to do that.
I thank my friend. And, yes, as soon as we get word, I will ask for a quorum call, and then we will make an agreement on the time.
Whether we speak about this for a half hour or 2 days, this is a very important amendment. I think one of the things we learned after 9/11, tragically, is that we have to take warnings very seriously--our intelligence agencies, we, as a Congress, the administration, all of us working together.
We know now that there is a threat out there that is very real. We have constructed an amendment that does not add any money to this bill but merely says that out of the funds that have been allotted for homeland defense, that $30 million be made available immediately for research and development of countermeasures that could be taken should a shoulder-fired missile be aimed at a commercial aircraft.
I want to read to you the latest statement of the FBI. This is the FBI warning, which really must not go unheeded if we are to do our job:
. . . given al-Qaeda's demonstrated objective to target the
U.S. airline industry, its access to U.S. and Russian-made
MANPAD systems--
MANPAD stands for shoulder fired missiles--
and recent apparent targeting of U.S.-led military forces in
Saudi Arabia, law enforcement agencies in the United States
should remain alert to the potential use of MANPADs against
U.S. aircraft.
How clear could this be? If this body turns its back on a threat that our commercial aircraft are facing right now, it would be a very sad day, indeed.
I see Senator Schumer has approached the floor. What I will do is ask that a quorum call be put in place so I might discuss with him a timeframe he will need on this amendment we have worked so hard on together.
I suggest the absence of a quorum.
I will take it from the top because this is such a crucial amendment. The amendment I am offering with Senator Schumer will provide $30 million that is already in the bill--we are not adding new money--for the Department of Homeland Security to research and develop and to initially deploy countermeasure systems for commercial aircraft to combat the threat of manned portable shoulder-launched missile systems.
I have held one of these missiles. I am a little person. They are very lightweight. They can be easily used. They have been used in the past. As I say, this $30 million is not new money. I hope, therefore, it will not be opposed on the other side of the aisle.
The chairman of the House Aviation Subcommittee, a Republican, said just yesterday that the threat of these shoulder-fired missiles being aimed at a commercial aircraft in the United States or one of our assets abroad ``keeps me up at night.'' This is a Republican chairman of the House Aviation Subcommittee who came into this debate, in his own words, not convinced that we needed to move on this threat. But after a secret briefing--and I was there--said this threat ``keeps me up at night.''
Shoulder-fired missiles, such as the SA-7 and stinger missile, are available on the black market for $25,000 to $80,000 each. Most can be used with very little training and they take just minutes to fire. As I said, I have held one of these missiles in my hand. Almost anybody could do the same and fire one.
Nearly 30 guerrilla and terrorist groups are in possession of these weapons, including al-Qaida. We will show a chart of the terrorist groups, the guerrilla groups we believe have these
weapons or have access to these weapons: al-Qaida, Hezbollah, Kurdistan Workers Party, the Palestinian Authority, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Taliban. It goes all the way down the line. These are the groups that have these missiles and could use them against a commercial aircraft.
Al-Qaida has shown it is willing to use these weapons as weapons of terror. They are suspected of targeting U.S. military aircraft in Saudi Arabia last May with an SA-7 missile.
Yes.
I am so pleased my friend would come over and engage in a colloquy with me. I was not aware of where these countermeasures were made. I know there are corporations working on them.
He is right. Our military planes are protected--thank God--because these are heat-seeking missiles. They are attracted to these engines. Our military aircraft are protected. It is interesting because if you look at El Al, although they will not confirm or deny that their planes are so equipped, we believe they are. We don't have any specific information, but we believe they are.
The point is, we need to now take this technology that is used on military aircraft and do a little more work so these technologies can work on commercial aircraft. That is what the amendment does.
I say to the Senator, who I know is a fiscally responsible Member, we don't add any new funds because the first stage, $30 million, we can take out of existing money for research and development and begin to deploy a few airplanes with this system so we can make sure it works before we make a bigger investment.
Before my friend leaves the floor, I want to put up the FBI warning we have been given. It is not as if we haven't been warned. That is why I want to make the case to my friends on both sides of the aisle as to how important they are.
Given al-Qaida's demonstrated objective to target the U.S.
airline industry, its access to U.S. and Russian-made systems
and recent apparent targeting of U.S.-led military forces in
Saudi Arabia, law enforcement agencies in the U.S. should
remain alert to the potential use of the MANPAD'S against
U.S. aircraft.
When you put that together with the list of terrorist groups that have the weapons, you are so right. The Taliban is at the top. That is why now in Afghanistan we face threats from these shoulder-fired missiles, because they have them.
My friend is so much on point. It is true that the attempt to down an Israel airliner in Kenya failed. However, it is estimated that over the last 25 years, more than 550 people have been killed in incidents involving shoulder-fired missiles and commercial aircraft.
I want to show my friend a statement made by a member of the travel industry, as we look at more funding for the airlines, which I think is essential right now given what they have gone through, because we have a war and we had terrorism and we have a recession. This is what Ed Adams, chairman of a big tourism industry group, said:
The travel industry is painfully aware of what a successful
attack of using a shoulder-fired missile on a commercial
airliner could do to the confidence of the traveling public.
It is a situation we would prefer not to even imagine, but we
must understand the reality of such an event if we intend to
prevent it. The blow to the economy, in general, and the
travel and tourism sector, in particular, combined with the
loss of human lives would be staggering. These costs would
certainly outweigh the expense of the precautionary measures
you are recommending today to make sure our commercial planes
are safe from such a terrorist attack.
My friend is right. We know that, right now--before we have even seen research and development in a robust fashion to bring down the cost of these countermeasures--they are about a million dollars per plane. I say to my friend that $1 million on a $120 million aircraft is not too much to ask.
We had a big breakthrough because Chairman Mica on the House side, yesterday, came on board on this amendment and is working on the other side. I have spoken to the leadership. I think if the Senate today can come together--I know we are voting so much on party lines now, and I can see that, but if we can come together on this amendment, which doesn't add any money at all, but simply says this is a priority--by the way, it is not only the Senator from Indiana, or the Senator from California, or the Senator from New York saying it is a priority; it is the FBI saying it is a priority. Who knows better what threats we face than the FBI?
The TSA is saying it is a priority, too. On Sunday, there was a report in the New York Times saying that the Bush administration has ordered major security improvements at several of the Nation's largest airports after inspections showed that passenger planes taking off or landing at those airports could be vulnerable to attack by a terrorist using a shoulder-fired missile.
So the fact is we see--I know at Los Angeles Airport dozens of National Guard troops are deployed. It is a good thing to patrol the perimeter and at road checkpoints, in part, because of concerns about shoulder-fired missiles.
So the administration now takes this very seriously. We all know that while the National Guard is going to be very helpful in this regard, and more troops are going to help in this regard--and I support these measures--we know these missiles can reach commercial aircraft up to 12,000 feet. We know that stepped-up patrols of the perimeters are only part of the solution because you can have one of these shoulder-fired missiles pretty far away from the
airport--in an apartment building, or anywhere else, or in the middle of a park, and it would be very difficult.
The Senator hasn't interrupted my argument; he has made it stronger and better. Also, we know that military transport and refueling aircraft--and you have mentioned this--such as the C-17, C- 130, KC-135, and the KC-10 are some of the models that employ these countermeasure systems that we believe can be and must be used for commercial aircraft.
Just going to the Senator's point about the military, they are conducting thousands of hours of training on countermeasures. So to underscore what my friend has stated, we know these systems work. We also know there is a threat.
I think if you look at this amendment and all the parts of it, No. 1, it is a modest step because we are not adding new funding; we are simply taking out--there is more than a billion dollars in that particular section--it is $1.135 billion--and we are saying $30 million of that should go to support the research and development and getting these prototypes ready, so we know they can be put on aircraft.
Chairman Mica and I have spent time talking about this, as well as Senator Schumer. We have come to understand that as we do this research and development, and the price comes down, when the airlines in the future order new commercial aircraft--and they are spending up to $150 million a copy--to spend an extra million dollars on that is not going to be very much.
So we think this is a very responsible amendment. We think it would be foolish and foolhardy not to begin this work right now, because I can tell you, God forbid, if a terrorist were successful, or even unsuccessful but came close to hitting one of our commercial aircraft, everybody in this body would say: Oh, my God, we had our chance and we blew it. We didn't do what we should have done.
Whether you look at the fact that these technologies are working on military planes, whether you look at the fact that we have enormous warning from the FBI, and we have seen this administration begin to move forward, if you put this all together, it speaks loudly and clearly in favor of this amendment.
This is a chart of recent incidents of attacks. In November 2002, an Israeli jetliner was fired upon seconds after takeoff in Mombasa, Kenya, and al-Qaida is suspected.
In May of 2002, an empty shoulder-launched missile tube was found outside Prince Sultan airbase in Saudi Arabia, and our military thinks that was from a shoulder-fired missile.
In October 1998, we had rebels down a civilian Boeing 727 over the Democratic Republic of the Congo in which 40 were killed. This is just recent incidents, but if we go back 25 years, we see this occurred.
I expect Senator Schumer is going to be coming to the Chamber. Until he does, I am going to continue to go over these charts. If we look at any of these charts, we get the picture.
This chart shows the groups we believe have access to shoulder-fired missiles. This would make anybody shudder because we know these groups are well funded and active, and we know many of them view the United States of America as their target:
Al-Qaida, Hezbollah, Kurdistan Workers Party, Palestinian Authority, Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine, Taliban, Armed Islamic Group, Huta Militiamen, UNITA, Oromo Liberation Front, Somali National Alliance, United Somali Congress, Hark at ull-Ansar, Hizbul Majahideen, Khmer Rouge, Liberation Tigers of Tamil, United State Wa Army, Kosovo Liberation Army, National Liberation Army, and the IRA. We know these groups have access to shoulder-fired missiles. We know some groups, particularly some on the top part of this chart, would like to go after United States interests, given the past and given the present situation.
I want to read what Chairman Mica said after he came out of an intelligence briefing on this issue:
I went into the meeting somewhat skeptical. I came out
convinced that this is probably one of the most serious
challenges we face in combating terrorism. I think that's
important.
Then he said:
Since that hearing, I've lost some sleep and have great
concern.
We are saying this is very important.
Honoring our Armed Forces
Madam President, until Senator Schumer comes to speak on my amendment, I wish to pay tribute to five additional young Americans who were killed in the Iraqi war who were either from California or based in California. Sadly, these numbers are growing, and I have tried in every case to read their names on the floor.
LCpl Patrick T. O'Day, age 20, was from Sonoma, CA, which is not very far from where I live. He was assigned to the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twenty-nine Palms, CA. He was killed in a tank accident in Iraq on March 25.
His family moved to the United States from Scotland in 1987. He was captain of the wrestling team at Santa Rosa Middle School. He enlisted in the Marines after graduating from Santa Rosa High School in 2001. He is survived by his wife, his parents, his three brothers, and his wife is expecting their first child in September.
PFC Francisco A. Martinez Flores, age 21, from Los Angeles, CA, was assigned to the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twenty-nine Palms, CA. He was killed in a tank accident in Iraq on March 25. He moved to California with his family when he was 3 years old. He was expecting to become a U.S. citizen in 2 weeks.
CPT Aaron J. Contreras was assigned to the Marine Light Attack Helicopter Squadron, Marine Aircraft Group-39, Marine Corps Air Station in Camp Pendleton, CA. He was 31 years old. He was killed on March 30 in a helicopter crash in southern Iraq.
He was born on the Fourth of July in 1971. His family moved from San Jose, CA, to Sherwood, OR, in the late seventies, and he was a graduate of Sherwood High School. He joined the Marines in 1997. He is survived by his wife and three children, his parents, and four brothers.
SSgt Donald C. May was assigned to the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twenty-nine Palms, CA. He was from Richmond, VA. He was 31 years old. He died March 25 in a tank accident in Iraq. He is survived by his wife and two children.
Cpl Robert M. Rodriguez, age 21, was assigned to the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Air-Ground Combat Center, Twenty-nine Palms, CA. He was killed in a tank accident in Iraq on March 25. He was from Queens, NY. He was born in Brooklyn and grew up in the Maspeth section of Queens. He was known to treasure his Puerto Rican heritage. He is survived by his parents, four siblings, and 17 nieces and nephews.
I have come to this Chamber to honor our fallen military personnel before. We now have 20 men who have died in the Iraqi war who were either from California or who were based in my home State. My State mourns their loss. May these beautiful young Americans rest in peace. May we have a short war. And may we also pray for the wisdom of those who sent our young men and women into their mission.
When we speak about the realities of war and how families will never be the same, as we take this bill up to make sure we have the best equipped military in the world and they have everything they need to protect them from harm, we also need to protect civilians from harm, which gets me back to the amendment that is before the body today.
We have been warned by the FBI that the chance of a shoulder-fired missile being fired at one of our civilian aircraft is real. We have been warned by
the Transportation Security Agency that the threat is real. The administration has deployed National Guard to various airports in our country to try to spot one of these individuals with a shoulder-fired missile. We know there are skeptics who have now come to the conclusion that this is, in fact, a very real threat to our people. We have heard from the travel industry that such an attack would be more than catastrophic, and as we vote more and more funding for our airline industry because we do not want to lose our airline industry, we need to take steps to protect it from further harm as well.
We have an amendment that ought to get bipartisan support. We have an amendment that is fiscally responsible. We are not adding more money. We are saying this is a high priority and it ought to happen because if we can get the cost of these systems down below $1 million--right now they are about $1 million a plane. Even that is a small amount when one considers an aircraft costs $100 million to $150 million a copy. If we can get it even lower than that, it becomes less and less of a burden to both retrofit the older planes, the 6,800 planes we have flying now, and make this a mandated safety measure on all future commercial aircraft.
There is a lot of support for this amendment. I just hope the Senate will put it in place. I think all of us will be able to sleep a little bit better at night because there are folks out there who want to hurt us. We know that. They look at civilians in a way we have never seen before. On 9/11 we saw that just because you are a civilian does not protect you from terrorists. It is our job to make sure we protect our people from terrorists.
I am hopeful Senator Schumer will join us shortly. I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.
Madam President, I ask unanimous consent that the order for the quorum call be rescinded.
Madam President, Senator Schumer is working hard on a major amendment dealing with first responders. I thank the Senator from the bottom of my heart for all his work on this issue and this amendment. Senator Schumer and Senator Clinton had an experience that no other Senator had. Yes, we had horrific pain in this area with the Pentagon being hit. The Senators from this region dealt with the pain and suffering and grief, but Senators Schumer and Clinton saw something they will never forget--none of us will, they particularly--and they deal with the fallout of this every day.
When we talked about trying to get ahead of terrorists and listening to the FBI warnings, the TSA warnings, Senator Schumer said: I want to work closely with you on this. God forbid something like this should happen and a shoulder-fired missile would bring down a commercial aircraft. We would all say, my God, why didn't we do something? We have the technology.
I yield to my friend for as much time as he has remaining before Senator Stevens takes time to respond.
Will my colleague yield?
Will the Senator yield?
I thank the Senator. I think the Senator makes a very important point that I absolutely supported a study in the committee. Since that has occurred, however, two things have happened. Chairman Mica on the other side invited me to a secret meeting.
I was hoping--I don't have any time left.
I do have a question. I was just going to let the Senator know what had happened and then I was going to ask the question.
What happened at that time was this threat had been rising and the administration took action since the time of the study that said to all the big airports around the country, national guardsmen will protect against this threat. Chairman Mica changed his mind after those hearings and I became more concerned. That is the reason why I drafted this to be both a study and a deployment on just a couple of planes.
I just wanted to know if my rationale made any sense.
Parliamentary inquiry. Is my friend intending to move to table my amendment or will it be a straight up-or-down vote?
Mr. President, we have worked hard to protect aircraft by making sure pilots are equipped to defend the airplane. We need to go an extra step today. The FBI warned us that terrorists with shoulder- fired missiles are a threat to our commercial aircraft. The administration has determined airports are vulnerable to shoulder-fired missiles and they have deployed the National Guard. But we need to do more. We need to adapt countermeasures now installed in our military aircraft for commercial use. It is possible to do this. El Al is doing this.
Opponents argue, and we will hear this, we should wait until a study provision I wrote into another bill becomes law. We should not wait because things have moved on since that study.
This amendment is not even inconsistent with it. It will, in fact, make the money available for that study. This is about fighting a war on terrorism. I hope we will vote in favor of my amendment and not to table this amendment
Reserving the right to object, then I would like 30 seconds to conclude debate.
Mr. President, I am very grateful. Senator McCain is my chairman, Senator Hollings is the ranking member. We will work together on this threat.
I have to say when we are dealing with an emergency supplemental bill where we have a study already accepted by my friend, which I am very happy about, which is moving forward, this is not inconsistent with that. This will just move along a little quicker. If you look at the FBI warning, we need to act.
Mr. President, I will vote not to table the Hollings amendment.
We still do not know how much the war in Iraq will cost, and we do not know how we will pay for those costs.
I have been concerned about the United States shouldering the entire financial burden not only of the ongoing war, but also of the necessary postwar reconstruction. The President has released a list of more than 40 nations that are supporting our effort in Iraq. However, a close look at the nations on that list will show that the overwhelming majority of them are in no position--and have made no commitment--to help pay for the effort.
In comparison, during the 1991 gulf war, our allies paid for 88 percent of the costs of the war. We have no such assurance this time.
Because of this uncertainty, I believe the Senate should be discussing and debating this issue. That is, discussing and debating how we will meet the costs of the war and the costs of reconstruction.
Will we receive contributions from our allies? Will we use revenues from Iraqi oil after the war is over? Will we cut wasteful government spending?
These questions need to be asked and debated. That is why I voted not to table the Hollings amendment. With his amendment, the Senator from South Carolina tried to raise the issue of how we will pay for the war and reconstruction. And, his amendment was intended to force the Senate to debate this issue. I believe we need to have that debate, and that is why I voted not to table the Hollings amendment.